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June 20, 2025 33 mins

In this powerful bonus episode of the Humble Renegade Podcast, Kesha and Bookie welcome their very first guest, Elizabeth Perkins, Co-President of the John and Vera Mae Perkins Foundation and daughter of the legendary civil rights and Christian reconciliation pioneer, Dr. John Perkins.

Recorded at the Antioch House in Jackson, MS, this heartfelt conversation digs into legacy, leadership, and the transformative power of reconciliation. Elizabeth shares deeply personal stories from growing up in a household that didn’t just preach the gospel but lived it out through the three foundational principles of Christian Community Development: relocation, reconciliation, and redistribution.

Together, they explore how these timeless values are still changing lives, how faith intersects with action, and how legacy is not just inherited but actively lived. From the origin story of the Reconciliation Tour baseball camp to the redemptive work of community development in Jackson, this episode is a testimony to grace, perseverence, and the gifts of multigenerational leadership.

Show Notes

Guest:
Elizabeth Perkins | Co-President of the John and Vera Mae Perkins Foundation

Topics Covered:

  • The 3 Rs of Christian Community Development
  • Living the gospel beyond Sunday sermons
  • What reconciliation really requires: humility, truth-telling, and forgiveness
  • Legacy leadership and the power of proximity
  • Baseball as a vehicle for healing and community engagement
  • Carrying the mission forward with urgency and love

Mentioned:

  • Dr. John Perkins
  • Vera Mae Perkins
  • Christian Community Development Association (CCDA)
  • Baseball Beyond Borders 
  • The Reconciliation Tour documentary (Watch Here)
  • Equal Justice Initiative & Anthony Ray Hinton
  • Jackson State University
  • Uncle Bud’s Field at the Perkins Foundation

Get Involved:
Visit JVMPF.org to learn more about the Foundation’s mission and how you can support its work through prayer, donations, or volunteerism.

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