Bear Camp Therapy: No Sirens, Just Silence

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
this is hunts on outfitting podcast.
I'm your host and rookie guide,kanmar.
I love everything hunting theoutdoors and all things
associated with it, from storiesto howos.
You'll find it here.
Welcome to the podcast.
Hey, you picked a great podcastepisode to listen to.

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As always, we had an awesometalk discussing a new, upcoming
and so far successful non-profitprogram, thin Line Hunts,
started by Brody Garnett, aparamedic and volunteer
firefighter.
Brody takes first respondersout for a completely free and
fully guided bear hunt, allinclusive, in the middle of

(00:53):
nowhere.
He talks about what he startedand why then we get into the
actual hunts.
Thin line hunts check them outon facebook and instagram.
Um, it's, uh, it's a greatcause.
We're gonna you guys gonna hearabout it.
Brody had about five differentsponsors lined up to help for
this and all never actually camethrough, except one inukshuk

(01:15):
dog food.
I kid you not.
I'm not just saying that,because they are a proud
supporter of this podcast andhelp to keep my dogs happy and
healthy.
They gave Brody a package togive away which someone could
win by liking and sharing hispage.
This company gives back and itdefinitely means a lot.
So great product, but alsocaring and down-to-earth people

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over there Before we get into it.
If you want to connect with me,to be on the podcast, suggest
someone for it or just connect,you can, on Facebook Hunts on
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No matter where you are in theworld, this podcast episode is
dedicated to all the men andwomen first responders, whether

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paid or volunteer.
We appreciate you.
So you know, brody, I've gotBrody and Caleb in with me.
Brody, you've started thin linehunts.
People need to walk the line toget on the thin line.
No, but we're going to get toknow you.
We're going to get to knowCaleb.
Caleb, let's get to know youfirst.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
My name's Caleb Jones .
I'm a guide here in NewBrunswick.
I also do carpentry work and,yeah, I got sucked into this
with Brody.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, so Brody is possibly your soon-to-be
brother-in-law.
You're dating a sister.
Have you proposed yet?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, no, I have not.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
This is a great place to do it on air.
Yeah, get her to listen.
Like hey, did you listen to thepodcast recently?
Because, because I proposed toyou on there.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Call her up right now .
Get her on the line, Ken Get itlive.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
You're turning a little red, Caleb, Not too bad,
but you know you could beBrody's brother-in-law, but
anyways, you helped Brody like abrother-in-law.
So you guys did some guidingthis year.
But before we get into that,Brody, you're a volunteer
firefighter.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
You have been for a while yeah, I've been a
volunteer uh my local firedepartment in havelock for 12
years now 12 years yep, and I'vebeen a career paramedic for uh
over seven years now.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know, brody, you deal with a lot of stuff, a lot
of crazy stuff, and I know youlaugh about it.
That's your way of dealing withit.
But I mean, some of the stuffyou deal with is crazy.
First of all, you deal withcaleb who's?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
soon to be possible.
That would bother anybodyanybody.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, but you deal with it well.
I find you know you're able tosit across the room from him,
but no, but you do deal with alot, brody, in your line of work
, and thank you for you know,especially always.
You know the volunteer firemenand women.
If you guys are listening, youknow it's good.
You guys are taking time out ofyour life to go deal with shit.
That's not great.

(03:44):
No one's ever calling you guysbecause like hey, we're having a
party, there's some extra hotdog, come on out.
You know it's bad, right, andyou know it's it's really good.
You guys going out and doingthat and volunteering your time.
And then the paramedic stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's uh, that's rough yeah, well, it has its
moments good times, bad timesbut it's all in the fun of it,
right?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
yeah, and keep people alive, keep people going
sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah um sono, it's good, it's a good,
it's a good career well, weappreciate you doing that and we
appreciate all the firstresponders uh, doing what you
guys do.
So you know, brody, how did youget started and what made you
start the volunteer firedepartment?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
uh, my grandfather was on the fire department for
50 years and just kind offollowed in the footsteps there
and joined up when I could,started when I was 16 and took
it from there, Yep.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So did you plan on being a paramedic before or join
the fire department?
You're like.
You know what.
I had no idea what I wanted todo.
I was still in high school,obviously, when I joined the
fire department, you're like,you know what?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I had no idea what I wanted to do.
I was still in high school,obviously, when I joined the
fire department and then I kindof thought I wanted to go into
nursing a little bit.
And then I just mixed bothworlds and found out it's
neither of them.
So it kind of fell into my lapa little bit.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You get to drive and nurse, sort of.
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
It just kind of happened just applied to it and
got in and started doing it.
Then it kind of manifested.
But it's uh, it's not what youthink it's going to be.
When you get, when you think ofwhat it's going to be well,
what did you have in mind?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
well, you think it's going to be lights going crazy
all day, every day, and I'm gladit's not that but also
sometimes it is it can be, itcan have its moments, for sure.
But yeah, uh, I know I've metyou on the job before, uh, to
help someone else and that was awe won't get into that, but
that's a weird situation, butyet you handled it.
You could tell you've done itbefore you know you, you put on

(05:43):
a good uh stern look, and yes, Idon't know what the hell to
think or do, but you did andthat I'm glad you guys came out
the whole goal is to fake ittill you make it right, and
that's if you can fake it, well,you can make it is that what
you take into, uh, yourcarpentry trade, caleb?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
absolutely oh yeah, that bridge is good, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
yeah, one bridge collapses and there's a little
bit of water cooler.
Talk about maybe Caleb's notcompletely qualified.
Yep, okay, so that's why yougot into it.
You've been doing the paramedicthing, brody.
You've got thin line hunts.
People have got to walk theline to get on the thin line.
Where'd you come up with thename?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
How'd you come up with the name?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
and and.
Well, let's.
How'd you come up with the namethin line hunt?
Uh, chat gpt really helped meout there.
We're gonna have a big show,yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, I was like uh put in a prompt for names and it
gave me about 300 differentnames I could pick from and I
was like you know, it's prettygood.
I got scour on the internet tosee if anybody had used it.
Nobody had, so I picked it up.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's honestly how you came up with it.
Chat, gpt, holy yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Honestly, anything you ever see that I post is
probably chat GPT.
I can't think for myself.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Really.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, I'm at work all the time and I just throw it in
chat GPT, and it figures it outfor me.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Really.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
No, I'm just not everything but, there's.
There's a lot of stuff I dobecause mother's day cards.
Well, I I usually like I'llwrite something up and I'll
throw it in chat GPT and I'll belike make this not so stupid,
and then it'll spit outsomething a little bit smarter.
And then you just got to tweakit a bit to make it not look
like a robot.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I don't even know how to use that stuff.
Yeah, but you're a techie guy,so that's how you came up with
the name.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, ChatGPT.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Okay, it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's a good.
I think it's a good name.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't know, sounds good yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Very professional.
I like it.
Yeah, thin Line Hunts.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Caleb approved.
So what is Thin Line Hunts, andwhy did so?
You're doing this thing, orI'll let you tell you.
You're doing this thing forfirst responders.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
So what it is is Thin Line Hunts.
It's a program that I run.
It's for first responders andit offers free guided hunts.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's a non-profit.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
It's a non-profit Free hunts, first responders,
bear hunts, spring, and it's amental health program.
So it's to.
It's to promote the outdoors.
Uh, promote bear hunting,Camaraderie, Camaraderie, get
people out, uh, diffuse a littlebit in the woods.
Uh, you don't always realizeyou need it till you're out

(08:19):
there.
When you've come back yourealize that you need it, right.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah.
Not when you not before you golike no, I'm good, I'm good and
it's just a little like you know.
Yeah but it's a, it's a big,it's a it's a mental health
program is what it is yeah, soit's completely non-profit and I
know that at first you didn'thave anyone taking the hunts,
because they're completely freeand everyone's like what's the
catch?
well, I mean, you know whenthings sound too good to be true

(08:43):
, right exactly but this reallywas because people like you know
, because remember you sayingwhen you put the hunts out there
, people like so what's, what'sthe catch?
I'm like nothing.
You just owe me for a year.
You owe me a favor for the yeah, I own you forever, yeah I I
just your first board.
That's it, that's not there'sno catch, not much yeah, but um,
but people were wonderingbecause you said that it's

(09:05):
completely free.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, if you look at what's offered through the week,
I mean it's a three-day hunt,right, so it's not a full week.
But if you look at what'soffered, you could pay $2,000,
$3,000, $4,000 US for that samehunt in New Brunswick.
So to offer that to somebodyfor free just because they work
is kind of an odd thing.
Right for somebody to do, butit's something that might be

(09:29):
needed for somebody right.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, because I mean I even find you know I'm a truck
driver and delivering fuel andstuff.
When you're in town and allthat in the cities, you're all
what's around you A bunch ofpeople, a bunch of vehicles, a
bunch of concrete.
A bunch of people, a bunch ofvehicles, a bunch of concrete, a
bunch of pavement right, andthen where you're set up in the
woods, when you're way out there, it's you get, you know, lost
in a good way you know, you justget to reconnect and you kind

(09:54):
of reset because your, ourbodies aren't made to be around
so many electronics and peopleand this and that all the time
like that it's nice to get outthere and you know, you just
gotta quiet yourmind.
Well, yeah, like I've got afarm and you know sometimes it's
tiring stopping in I got it, myparents stopping in there,
after you know, 14, 16 hour daywork, but then it kind of helps
reset me because I'm not aroundall this pavement and concrete

(10:16):
and this and that, just outthere at the farm with the cows
and everything.
I'll tell you, I saw my lifeflash before my eyes though.
Today I was trying to tag a newcalf.
It's a pure Angus.
The mom wasn't having it, butyou know it still set me to a
good place after.
I'm like, holy shit, I made it,no, but you know it's nice, it
helps.
People don't realize.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's called adrenaline, Ken.
We know about that.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, you guys, you first responders deal with
adrenaline do you?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
It has its moments, for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I almost had to call you first responders because you
know those cows.
You're like, ah, she's bluffing.
She wasn't bluffing, she wasgoing to come at me, but yeah,
like just being out there,people like you said they might
not realize that they need ituntil they're out there in the
woods and all that and just likerefreshing.

(11:04):
It's different.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's quiet.
I mean we couldn't hear avehicle the whole week.
We were back there Like youcouldn't hear anything.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, so New Brunswick's fairly big, not
massive Like you can get intosome provinces or states, but
you guys were a ways back.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's just over an hour on an ATV and
you're already in the middle ofnowhere when you get on the atv
yeah, so there's not a whole lotgoing on back there.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
That's part of the experience it's nature for sure,
like it's not the rollingfields that we're used to, or
you know, it's just you're backin the woods and you're going
through the thickest woods andthen you come in and it's opened
up to a full lake, and it'sjust well, yeah, something else
you guys can't they're.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
They're quite surprised that there's a lake
back in the middle of yeah it'sthick woods right, so it's
pretty cool I think we'rejumping the gun a little bit.
I want you to describe theplace yeah, yeah but yeah, just
about you doing this.
So what?
What made you decide to do it?
You're like, you know what?
I'm a paramedic and a volunteerfirefighter.
I see other guys in this lineof work.
I'd like to be able to offerfor them to.
You guys deal with a lot ofstressful situations.

(12:10):
I know you joke about it, brody, you do, but I know you deal
with a lot of a lot of bad shitsometimes, right yeah, it has,
it has its time.
Yeah, what we call dark grassdark humor is is yes I know you
joke about, I know it's's darkhumor like kind of throws me off
sometimes.
But then I'm like, no, it'skind of funny, but it's a little
fucked.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Well, you gotta know your crowd too, right.
Like it's not, for it's not awedding talk, it's not.
It has its times.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
But it's so, you thought.
So what what you're sitting at?
Home with it, you're relaxingright, it's my thing.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I go out, it gets all the stress off right.
Just to go sit in the woods andbear hunting is kind of my
thing.
I love it, like to get out inthe spring winter's over
spring's starting.
The woods are changing.
You can get outside again.
It's starting to heat upoutside.
The bugs get miserable.
It's fun, but not a lot ofpeople can do it again.

(13:06):
It's starting to heat upoutside.
The bugs get miserable.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's fun, um but not a lot of people can do it.
Thermosel it's fun with athermosel, for sure but not a
lot of people can do.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
It takes a lot of commitment and you it.
It costs money too, right likethe bait is expensive.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, it's every day too.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, well, and yeah, like you got to keep the bears
fed and it's hard to do, butit's quite simple at the same
time.
Like you can trick a bear ifyou feed them, right, yeah, but
you got to know what you'redoing a little bit.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's easy, but it's not like easy.
You know you have to.
You've got to put in the time.
The biggest thing isconsistency, right.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
And and it's hard for a lot of you know, especially
shift workers, to be able to dothat.
So to offer something, becausea lot, there's a lot, everybody
that comes out as a hunter,right.
So, um, but not everybody'sbear hunted, because it's hard,
it's hard to do you know it'shard to find the time and the
commitment.
You know and and it's kind offrowned upon, right, like people
used to think that you don'thunt bears because they're just

(14:06):
old dump bears, right, and it'sjust not the case.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
There's dumps everywhere.
There used to be dumpseverywhere.
Not the case anymore.
Right, they're good eatingthough.
Yeah Now, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
So it's just a different ball game now.
Yeah, but yeah, that was themain thing.
If I could could, if I couldtake somebody out and and show
them that you know this has beengood for me and it could do
well for somebody else as well.
Yeah, that's.
The whole point of the programis to is to get somebody out and
show them how relaxing it canbe and hopefully get somebody

(14:35):
hooked on bear hunting and wait,you guys are out there.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
There's no sirens going, there's no one panicking
or all that, unless caleb, youknow, slips up splitting wood.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
But um no, there was there's nothing we're all
paramedics, we got them it'sjust you and the bears, really
yeah, but it's, that's what youwanted.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
You wanted to bring other people that were in that
line of work, just the uh, thepeace and stuff, and just kind
of reset a little bit.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, that's it that's all it is, which is
really important.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
people don't think about that enough and, like you
said, they don't realize theyneed it until they go out there
and do it.
And then they're like I reallyneeded this yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, you get out there and like it's a three-day
hunt, right, so you're onlythere for a short time, but when
you leave, the theory is itonly took three days for you to
go from you know 100 to 50,right, and you can be a lot more
functional after three days ofbeing in the woods.
And that's the whole point ofthe program.

(15:26):
And we got some really goodfeedback from the hunters.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
So this is 100%.
I mean, not only do youvolunteer your time with the
fire department, you volunteeredyour time with this, it's 100%
free, it's non-profit.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, I actually didn't make a penny off this I lost a
few over this.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
A few thousand pennies, a couple, yeah, no, I
don't.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Well, I don't want my wife to listen, but there was,
I spent some money.
But you know what?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's the first year of doing it right, but you're
building something If you buildit up and show that it's good,
and then you know.
Hopefully it doesn't cost youthat much down the road and I
think it's needed as well, youknow, and it's really great Well
.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I had uh 25 people apply for it.
Like three weeks before ithappened I didn't have any
applicants for it.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, I know, put the word out like last minute yeah
At first and then yeah.
I remember you were a littleworried.
Like I've got no one, Like noone wants a free hunt, Like no
one believes it's a free hunt,yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
And then so I partnered with Veteran Hunters
this year so I heard them on thepodcast and met up with Sean,
new Brunswick rep, here for Sean.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
McRae.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Sean McRae.
We have the same goals Seemlike the right thing.
They do veterans and firstresponders, so it seemed like
the best program to be in.
So there's two guys in NewBrunswick already that are doing
bear hunts and I said, well,why don't we split it up?
They did the veterans, I tookthe first responders, so all my

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hunts were offered to theveteran hunters this year.
So pretty easy application yougo on, you become a member of
the veteran hunters.
So there is a little bit of acost.
I think it was like 60 bucks tobecome a member.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
But you get some perks to that as well.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Being part of the veteran hunters, right, and you
can apply to all their hunts,yeah, and that's across Canada.
So there's a lot of opportunity.
And then I offered my huntsthrough them and any of their
applicants, but they didn't getany.
I was like kind of gettingantsy.
I'm like, oh, you know, likeI'm wondering who I'm going to

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take out.
We're getting close and they'relike, oh, we don't have any.
I'm like, oh well, I'm going tochange that.
So I put a post up saying like,hey, I need some people, I need
some first responders.
And I got a bunch of peoplemessaged me.
I had 25, 30 people message me.
So I was like, well, I'm justgoing to go down the list,
because we're three weeks outand it's going to be hard to get
somebody to actually commit tocoming in.

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So I went down the list, startedone.
I said hey, you were the firstto message.
I'm like do you want to come?
And I just went until I hadfour guys that said they could
come, said all right, flythrough the veteran hunters.
And the veteran hunters, ofcourse they have insurance and
things that I didn't have, thatthey could offer me as well.
So that was another reason thatit was beneficial.

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It was beneficial for me to tobe with them, because the less I
have to worry about, plus theapplication process of all the
paperwork and stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Also didn't have to worry about that which is nice
when you're a week out from ahunt and you got a lot to worry
about Right.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, so that was good.
Um, I didn't hear anycomplaints of you know.
You know, of having to gothrough the veteran hunters.
Everybody thought it was great.
They got some good Vortex stufffrom them.
Good sponsor for the veteranhunters.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh, they did.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, everybody got a hat and a t-shirt.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, it was pretty nice stuff.
Right, shout out Vortex.
Yeah, no, it's good, so yeahthat was pretty much how it how
it so then.
So then you got the applicantsand all that.
You had the bear baits set upand everything.
So tell me about the area youwere set up in.
And then Caleb comes into thepicture.
You're possible if he poppedthe question, brother-in-law?

(19:05):
Yeah well, brody, come to me,you have your guide license yeah
, I do and Brody.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
He come to me in spring wanting to know how to
hunt bears.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So I was like well, well, I guess you need somebody
in bear camp that knows how tohunt bears.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh yeah, that's exactly the conversation.
So, kail, looks like I'm gonnacall a friend, right, yeah, um,
and we also had a good camp cookin there too.
We should, uh, give a littleshout out logan elliott.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, logan logan elliott, thanks for helping us
use a blackstone, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
so you use a chainsaw ?
Yeah, no, he's good.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I realized when.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
I was getting into this like I didn't want to do it
for one person.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's not worth it to go through it for one person?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah yeah, so I'm like I'm going to need some help
.
You can't do everything, so youcalled on a lot of people.
It's hard to find people totake a week off work and I don't
blame them.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
But I can appreciate.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Caleb and Logan for doing it right.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, we're cutting away from you.
I did plan on coming out.
I said I don't know if I canhelp much, but I planned on
popping out just seeing howeverything's going and all that.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Well, you know you're taking out two guys at a time,
right?
So it do two guys for anotherthree days.
So you need another guide,right?
So I knew Caleb guided and Iknew I could probably talk to
him.
He was pretty damn good at ittoo.
I would say, yeah,no-transcript.

(20:40):
You come into that camp and yougot the blackstone going with
some deer meat on it.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
It is something else to pull up and get a nice hot
plate, and Logan's serious aboutit too, because I can tell by
the pictures he was seriousabout cooking a damn good meal
for everybody.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
He was like double fisting cracking eggs.
He was pretty good.
I'll give him that.
Yeah, the guy can cook.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I was excited he couldn't make it out tonight.
His head would swell up so muchwe wouldn't be able to get him
out of the house.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I think he's home looking up recipes right now for
next year.
No, it was good, I knew when hesaid he was going to come out
and cook the week and being camp, I knew we were in for
something big help, yep so itwas great.
Yeah, thanks, logan for comingout.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, it really uh makes the experience, that's for
sure and did you help make theexperience to caleb with guiding
?
I think so yeah, okay yeah, didyou have any feedback from then
, like it was a great experience.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, actually uh, but we went in.
We went in the day before andwe cut out five kilometers of
trail to their campsite.
Yeah, it was a lot of work.
It was pretty brutal.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Really.
Yeah, it was a lot, but I meanthat's part of being back there,
right.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Well, all right, so tell me, walk me through, where
were you guys staying?
Tell me.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
So you drive about as far pavement as you can get.
Look at a map of NewBrunsunswick.
Put a pin in the middle andthat's where we were.
Yeah, it's pretty inaccessibleand that's why it was so fun to
get in there and into landthat's so inaccessible yeah like
people are like, oh, I'd liketo go.
Like it looked nice where youwere.

(22:10):
I'm like good luck getting thereright I'll tell you how to get
there, but you ain't gonna getthere.
Yeah, no, it was good, uh, tobe that like rural and in the
middle of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I want to say rural, I say remote, Remote, yeah, I
guess remote Rural country.
You know there's some roadsthere.
You guys were remote.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well, thankfully we have a good company that in this
province that cuts a lot ofroads for us, so there are roads
to get in there.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Shout out Irving.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
So it's, it's.
You know there are roads butthey're rough Like when you're
that far back.
It hasn't been used by logtrucks in years and years.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Right, so they're grown up a bit, to say the least
.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
But I mean, once you get back there, it's nice Could
you guys get back there withyour pickup trucks?
No, if you didn't like yourpickup truck?
You definitely could.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
If you had a little Ford Ranger and you didn't care
at all about it the next day,you could get there.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
We lugged some shit back there.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
We did.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
We had a lot of stuff .
We had a Jaguar.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Two full trailers.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I mean, we had a generator.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
We're back there in the woods and I'll talk about
the camp here.
Like you know, we're back therein the woods and I'll talk
about the camp here.
But, like I thought I had asponsor for like a, like an
outfitter, like canvas wall tentwith a nice stove.
It fell through last minute andyou know that's.
You know we won't get into toomuch, but I think something
happened on their end and itjust is what it is.
It didn't work out, so we ranit out of like big 12-man

(23:36):
regular tents which was fine.
I didn't hear much complaintsthrough the week on that.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
They're a bit drafty.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
The weather was terrible, oh there's a complaint
it was super windy, it was cold, it was not bear hunting
weather.
What you'd expect?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
The next week was beautiful, right?
That's the thing you guys, Ithat that week it was.
Yeah, like you said, there's alot of rain, there's a lot of
wind.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
It was shit like I saw a lot of outfitters really
bad across the provincecomplaining about it.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, you know from their lodges I mean that's just.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
There's not much you can do about that.
You plan a week a year inadvance you say this is a week
you're not going to be able topick the weather right.
Yeah, so you just deal with it.
But, um, to set up the camplike we weren't roughing it we
had cots, we had a generator, wehad some stuff back there.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
You were still in.
I had a deep freeze back there,did you?

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah Well, I mean, when you're that far back, you
can't just go throw a bear up ina cooler somewhere, right?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
You can't have ice.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
So I was like you got to have something, so I had a
deep freeze.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
We, like you, gotta have something.
So I had a, I had a deep freeze, we ran it with a generator and
it worked great.
Like we cut up, we cut up, uh,one of the bears back there,
mark's bear, mark bear, yeah,okay, so, um, so you guys are
way back in the middle ofnowhere, but yeah, it's in
canaan.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Canaan, new brunswick is where it is, yeah so
southeastern yeah, brunswick.
Yeah, yeah, it's, I don't know,it's kind of everywhere and
nowhere.
Yeah, southern new brunswick,yeah, yeah, it's kind of, I
don't know, it's kind ofeverywhere and nowhere.
Yeah, southern New Brunswick,for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, so you guys had that.
So I mean, tell me a bit aboutso you guys were in the back of
the middle of nowhere, so thatadded to the whole experience.
And then tell me about, youknow, the people that came Broly
shout out Great guy, take himrabbit hunting.
He's awesome, he is a full-timefirefighter.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Thank him for his service.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
So John, actually the first two days I had John come
in.
He came in last second, so Johnactually couldn't come in until
Tuesday, went out and pickedhim up because I messaged him on
the Sunday.
I had a guy drop out the weekbefore and I was scrambling to
find it because I'm already setup for four guys and I'm not
going to start messaging 30people.
I've just started messaging thepeople who had said they might

(25:43):
be able to find some time.
I went in, I messaged John.
I'm like, hey, you want to comeout.
He's like, yeah, what do youneed help with?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I'm like, no, you want might come out and help out
through the week, and I thinkhe wants to in the future.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
So, it'll be good to have John back there.
Everybody loved John, so Johncame out.
He came out for two days.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
He wanted to help, though, and you're like no, no,
you qualify for actually goingon the free hunt.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, I'm like no, come hunt, come be in camp and
hunt, and he did for two days soit was great he was off, so it
was good timing.
And uh, brody came out as well.
Uh, brody mclaughlin, he's aparamedic in monkton.
So okay, yeah, it was good tohave him out um.
He'd never hunted anythingbigger than a bird before, so oh
really it was pretty cool, likeum like you're talking like

(26:31):
partridge partridge yep that waspretty well, all he had hunted,
I got a pretty big, pretty bigtrophy male partridge.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
last year he went out , he got his license.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
He was all pumped.
He was messaging me every fiveminutes.
It was pretty cool to seesomebody, like when you're that
amped up about something to seesomebody else pick up that
passion, he's a perfect guy tobring out.
Yeah, and then the next two days.
So the way we run it is Monday,tuesday, wednesday, because you
can't hunt on Sundays Threedays of hunting, and then we
swap hunters on Thursday morningand then they do Thursday,

(27:00):
friday, saturday, and then wehead out on Sunday.
So on Thursday we had Lucascome in and Mark come in.
Lucas is a firefighter in I'mgoing to mess this up in Truro,
truro.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Nova Scotia, Canada and.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Mark is a fire captain in Amherst, Nova Scotia.
So we had two in Canada, so twoout of province guys, which was
new to me.
Well, guiding is new to me, Ishould say, first off, but
Especially guiding out ofprovince guys, but not to your
brother-in-law, caleb, whereyou're like he's got this.
Well, he's the pro guide here.
I couldn't have done anythingwithout him.

(27:36):
But no, it was good,unfortunately, I mean I wish we
could have changed the weatherand had a bit more action.
It was bad weather, but I meanwe got two bears out of it.
We had a good week.
I didn't hear any complaintsfrom anybody.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
We caught a pile of fish.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
We did catch a pile of fish.
Okay, were staying back in themiddle of nowhere, but you were
on a lake and the fishing, fromwhat I hear, was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, so the weather was so bad that we didn't even
bother going out on the water atall.
We had a canoe with a trollingmotor.
We could get out there, but theweather wouldn't break right.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
And there was like wakes on the water Wednesday,
was it yeah, Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Wednesday the weather kind of broke a bit.
The sun was shining for likethree minutes.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
That three minutes.
That old trolling motor, wehooked it up to the battery and
just.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Caleb and John went out and they we hammered them.
They went to the far side ofthe lake.
The wind was cut off on thatside.
It was just as smooth overthere and they got into some
fish.
The pickerel.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
they were catching Big pickerel.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Big pickerel they were catching.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, like big pickerel.
Yeah it was.
They were really, really nicefish.
You never think that like wayout in the middle of nowhere and
you've got all these fish.
And what you guys are sayinglogan was saying he caught like
what?
80, I think.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
I think over the like we caught probably 200 fish and
like and we only had like fromwhen good days of weather yeah,
wow, to fish.
So if we had a good full weekof weather, like I don't know
how many, you could get 500?
.
Yeah, you get bored of it, youget bored.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
That's crazy, yeah.
So it's nice to be back there,because we only do evening hunts
, right yeah.
So you're in camp all day.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
You can hang out and you know you can talk about.
We can only talk about so much,but and able to be able to go
out and fish as part of thepackage.
Right like, you fish in themornings, you relax, and then
you, you go out for theafternoon and I think that's how
a lot of bear hunters try toset up is they try to have?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
a fishing included.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Because, yeah, like you're right, the mornings are
not doing much, which is what wedid with the, with the terrible
weather we had but, it's allyou could do Right and you know
what, like it didn't seem likethe day drug on either when you
just sat in camp.
I thought it went by prettyquick.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
We had a, we had some , really good guys come into
camp, so you know there's somepretty good.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
You like.
It's not so hard to sit aroundright, so it helps.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, you know deck of cards, got any fours, go fish
.
You know that kind of thingright.
So, yeah, the lake was reallygood.
Um, I kind of questionedwhether or not next year we'd be
going back to the same location, just because it is such a
struggle to get in there.
And then, after talking to theguys, after you know, I wanted a
little bit of feedback fromwhat they thought and and they
all said that's the way to do it.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
You're so remote, you're so removed from
everything else, and that's whathelps reset you.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
You don't see any other people once you go back
there.
It's just the guys you go inwith the stuff you bring.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
You don't hear any other people.
You don't hear anything.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
You don't hear.
There's no roads other than thetrail that obviously nobody
took, because it took us eighthours to cut out the day before.
So yeah, it's really somethingto be back there and I don't
think a lot of people may havethink they've been in the middle
of nowhere.
You know when you're in themiddle of nowhere because it's
quiet but it's loud.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You can hear a lot of different things you cannot
usually hear.
And the sky, though, right Likethere's no lights.
There's no lights.
You can hear a lot of differentthings you cannot usually hear,
and the sky, though, right Likethere's no lights.
There's no light pollution outthere.
Yeah, nothing.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
But it was cloudy most of the week.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
We only seen the stars one night.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, but it was a beautiful night when we did.
But you can hear the loons allnight, like just to be back
there and like we saw Some moosewere right in camp.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
We saw a ton of bears , there's a lynx.
I've never seen a lynx in mylife.
That was a cool video.
Brody has this video of a lynxand it just caught a snowshoe
hare.
Yeah, it was carrying it out Meand.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Lucas we were going out one night and we were going
out to sit for an evening sit.
We're driving up and I'm like,oh, look at that, there's a
bobcat up there on the trail.
It was probably 200 yards upand it wasn't moving off too
fast and got the binoculars out.
I'm like, oh, that's a links.
Like I've never seen a linksbefore and he had neither.
So, uh, it was.

(31:51):
yeah, I was carrying that rabbit, you're not going to see stuff
like that, unless you're thatfar back because there's just
not a huge population.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I can't remember because I remember looking at
the video.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, you can check that out on the Facebook page,
Instagram, anywhere else youwant to find that Because I
thought I saw, yeah, it's been alittle while now, but I thought
it was a bobcat at first, butyeah, it was a lynx.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
That's really cool.
It was cool.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I've never seen one before, and Especially, it had a
dead rabbit just dangling inits mouth.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
It wasn't a huge cat and it was a huge rabbit, so it
was kind of struggling to dragit off.
But it wasn't in a rush to getaway.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
But I mean yeah, because it's not used to people
it would have probably neverseen a bike back that far.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
No, anyways, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, but that's not what we were there for.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
But it's just part of the package of being that far
back.
You were there for that, thoughwe were there for the
experience.
Yes, and that was part of it.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's less of let's go shoot a 900-pound black bear,
let's get in the record book.
And more about let's go out andhunt for a week.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
But let's relax and unwind and reset.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's a whole thing, right.
It's about being in reset.
It's a whole thing, right.
It's about being in camp.
It's about fishing, it's aboutthe food.
It's a whole thing.
It's not about going in andshooting a bear and taking a
picture, right.
Yeah, it's fun to do that, mindyou, but that's not what it's
all about, right?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
And putting some meat in the freezer for the boys.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, I mean we can get into that a little bit too
later on.
I don't know what you want totalk about next.
Ken, if you've got a littlechecklist you want to go down
before we get into the stories.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
It's not really a checklist, it's more of a bullet
point Okay yeah.
But you guys had a great time.
You were out in the middle ofnowhere and, like you said, just
being able to unwind andeverything and just reset.
And, like you said, peopledon't realize how much they
needed it, especially in yourline of work, where it's high
stress and more so than theythink, and they kind of become

(33:47):
disengaged from not disengagedfrom reality, but they just
don't realize.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
You can get a little jaded.
Yeah, okay, jaded, and youdon't notice, you just don't
realize you can get a littlejaded, yeah, okay jaded, and you
don't notice and you knoweverybody talks about you got to
be careful with your mentalhealth.
You got to take it serious.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
And nobody ever does anything about it, right?
You just go through the motionof it, like yeah, yeah, I got it
.
And you just go through themotion of going to work and
everything and just doing it youdon't realize like ah, maybe
I'm losing touch a little bit.
You make work your life, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I mean every first responder out there.
Career, I mean volunteer.
You don't really get to choosewhen you go, you just go
whenever it happens.
But for career suckers, forovertime, like if they could get
an ounce of overtime, they'regoing right.
So it's hard to get time off tolike do anything like this.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Well, it's hard to get time off to like do anything
like this.
So well, yeah, and it's nicethat you're able to offer that.
And the word I'm not, I'mlooking for it's not disengaged,
it's um this, this somethingassociated.
Yeah, kind of like that.
You know, like you just don't,you don't realize, uh, how
caught up you are in your workuntil you actually get a break

(34:57):
from it.
Yeah, you know.
So it's great that you'reoffering that.
So you know, it's the wholepackage deal.
Everyone's out there.
Let's talk about the hunting.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, I'd love to.
So obviously the weather forbear hunting.
You like nice weather.
If you want to be out in theweather, so do the bears.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
And the weak weather that we had.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I did not want.
It was nice for white-taileddeer, like, yeah, if we wrote
deer hunting?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
it would have been great.
Maybe even moose hunting, yeah,but not for bears, it was cold.
Um, it was windy at the lake,but really it wasn't as windy
once you got into the thickerwoods.
But it was cold and wet and, um, not the weather you want for
bears.
Oh, hold on.
Desensitized.
Desensitized, that's the word Iwas looking for.
That's a good word, ken.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
You guys deal with all this stuff that people don't
realize.
All right, thanks, kim,desensitized to some of this
stuff that you know.
You just need a little bit ofreset to it.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
All right, so I just wanted to throw that out there,
that I remembered the wordThanks for the clap, caleb.
All right, so the weather, theweather was shit.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
The weather was terrible.
Okay yeah, there's not much youcan do about it, and I, you
know, try to warn the guys rightLike look, it's not looking
good, but we're doing it anyways, so come prepared, yep.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Dress for the weather .

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, so I was a little worried because I had two
baits that were hit.
I ran four baits for this rightFour hunters, four baits.
It's kind of a risk becausewhat if you got one that's dead?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
And a week before the hunt I had two baits that
hadn't been hit.
Yet there's some guideslistening to this like man he's
nuts.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I know it is crazy, it's insane and of course you're
stressing I run my own, like mybait's, like, oh, like an hour
and a half from camp, you got torun the road a little bit.
Caleb's like we can run them onmy bait.
It's two and a half hours awayfrom the camp and we're like we
don't want to do this, but wewant to get somebody on a bear.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
So we're willing to do it.
So you're saying like Caleb'sidea was somewhat dumb.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
It was dumb, but not as dumb as sitting on a bait
with no bears.
So a week or a week and a halfbefore, I had no bear action on
two of my cameras.
I'm like I don't know what I'mgoing to do, and you know I'm
stressing because I'm trying tomake this a good experience for
people, right when they come in.
You know you go bear huntingand you don't see a bear.
What's that right?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
But week before we go in that Sunday, I'm like we'll
just go in, we'll check thebaits.
They had all been hit.
Didn't pull the cart on two ofthe baits, I'm just like it
doesn't matter.
There's bears here like, yeah,me and caleb actually went in
and we saw a bear.
It was just sleeping by thebait.
We kind of jumped it a littlebit, it didn't bother me.
It's like mid morning yeah,yeah it was probably 11 o'clock

(37:29):
in the morning it was sleepingthere it was just snoozing just
give her a boot.
You know, know obviously beenfairly comfortable being there,
right.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, no kidding.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Well, I mean, you're in some thick woods back there,
so it's not like they're too,too nervous.
But, um, yeah, so four baits,four hunters, it's, it's a risk
for sure.
Um, but pretty much every guythat came in, uh, that came in,
they got to sit on their ownbait.
So it was good Brought a firstnight.

(37:59):
Monday night I only had onehunter, because John only came
in Tuesday, so Brody had camp tohimself.
He got to pick his bait.
He went and picked his bait andwell, I kind of urged him like
hey, I think this would be agood bait because you know, I
had some good bear action and hehadn't seen a bear before and

(38:20):
he was pretty pumped, so reallyyeah, so never seen one.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
I mean, you know, I got a nicebear this year.
I think it's a nice bear withmy bow yeah, it was yeah thanks,
brody.
It's nice boar and uh, but youknow, I've been sitting out
there since waiting for likeeven another one, because we get
two tags yeah, but it is cooljust sitting there and like just
watching them come in.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
It is neat.
It is Just to watch bears iscool.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
It is yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
So I brought Brody out and you know we're sitting.
I ran it all in ground blinds.
We're sitting in the groundblind and we sat there probably
two hours, almost three, and hesees a bear and he's, he's like
there, it is it, it is cool andyou don't like, you just get

(39:05):
amped up right, because youdon't hear them at all.
You'll never hear them, they'reghosts I mean you might hear
them, but it's very rare.
And uh, it came in and it itwalked around the bait to the
left of us, behind us, and itjust walked off and he's like
wondering if it's going to comeback.
I'm like it'll come back.
Like don't worry, it's early,right, it's only six o'clock.
We could probably hunt till Idon't know nine o'clock at that
time of year At least.

(39:25):
Yeah, I mean it was cloudyovercast hour later bear came
right back, went right into thebait.
It waited an hour, though itwas about an hour, yeah, so I
don't know if it went off to geta drink or what happened.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
You guys was like circled around.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
You never know it's a bear it's going to do what they
want to do.
Um, just let them do it.
And you know, in the groundlines, you know I was hoping our
scent would be a little morewell covered, because we're back
there for a week bunch, a bunchof stinky men back there, right
?
So, there's not much you can dofor your scent, but you smell
like a campfire or cat piss what?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
A little backstory there.
Yeah, it's kind of an insidejoke.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Maybe somebody's feet stank a little bit much in a
tent there.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Oh, it was Caleb.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
It wasn't Caleb, it may have been the cook, I don't
know.
Throw him under the bus, herehe's not wearing a pair of dumb
mops?
For 90 days straight.
So anyways, uh, the bear cameinto the bait and cookie rape
feet barely right down.
Special sauce yeah, I don'twant any sauce from him did you

(40:36):
put onions in here, my eyes arewatering.
No, it just uh ringed up mysocks so an hour after brody saw
that first bear, it came backin from the left side and it
walked into the bait and it laiddown eating and we could see
its head bobbing up and down and, um, it must have sat there for

(40:57):
, I don't know, probably 10minutes.
We were, you know, gettingantsy right, you just want to
get it done.
I don't know what happened.
It got a scent, it spooked alittle bit, but it stood up and
it stood behind the barrel andit had its head up behind the
barrel and it stood there forabout five minutes with its head
just showing and it almost gotto the point where you're like

(41:18):
you can hit that thing in thehead from here but you know you
don't want to do that, so maybesome people do.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
but that's not how I enjoy bear hunting anyways.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
But anyways, he had the gun ready to go and that
bear took like maybe four stepsout and it was kind of
quartering away and he took ashot and I've never seen a bear
slump like that, just rightstraight down on the ground.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
That's the video you showed me, right.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I have a video of the whole thing.
So I videoed Brody's whole huntand I don't have it ready yet,
but what kind of gun?
It was a 30-06.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Okay, yeah, that's a, that's a bear whacker, yeah
yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
And it did its job.
I mean it dropped, it tookthree big deep breaths just
dying and then that was it.
Brody's shaking like a leafFell out of the tree stand.
And that's exactly what Iwanted for somebody, right yeah,
to have that excitement.
I was shaking, you'll probably.
I'll post the video sometime,but the camera's gonna be a

(42:17):
little shaky because, like justhis excitement, I was excited
right yeah, and if I were to goout and shoot?
a bear like that like I probablywouldn't shake that much, but
seeing him do it like I waspretty pumped for him.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, he was pretty.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
He's pretty amped up after the hunt.
We, you know, got the bear andthe bike and go out, get it in,
we got it and everything and hegoes.
Oh, that was like the longestseven hours of my life, I'm like
.
That was like three and a halfhours like we were.
That was not a long bear hunt.
That is not how this goes.
Yeah, so because usually ifyou're going to shoot a bear,

(42:50):
it'll be in the last hour, lastlight, right like it's late, the
witching out.
Yeah, you know, yeah and uh, no,he was.
I think he was wet and cold.
I don't blame him, I was prettymiserable too.
But we got the bear back incamp and had a nice hot meal and
hung it up for the night.
It was nice and cold.
Meat was just just as cold ascould be in the morning.

(43:11):
It was like hanging a deer inyour shed in November.
It was just great.
Oh yeah, yeah he.
I bet he got some really nicemeat out of that.
So anyways, uh, brody didn'twant to stay the rest of the
rest of the days.
He's pretty cold, miserable, sowe went out picked john up rain
brought john in um.
What happened the next night?

(43:32):
Caleb, did you come out with?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
me and john that next night.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
What happened then?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
That night there we went out to what we call the
Beaver Bait.
How did?

Speaker 1 (43:40):
you get that name.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Because it's by Beaver Pond.
By Beaver Pond, the bait thatBrody shot his at was the North
Bait.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
That has now been renamed as the Click Bait, and
we'll get into that story in abit.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Alright, okay, I'm excited.
Alright, guys, good bathroombreak.
Okay, so Tuesday night, let'skick it off, caleb master guide
let's go.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yep.
Tuesday night we were at thebeaver bait, jonathan Brody and
I, and Brody was filmingsupposed to be.
Yeah, I was, and I don't knowwhat time.
How long were we there?
We were probably there for likethree hours.
We had sat for quite a while.
Yeah, we were there quite awhile it was getting there, it
was probably 8 o'clock when thebears come in.
Well, john was the one thatspotted them.
Brody and I were both sleepingQuite the guides.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
You know you do have to.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
He's like there's a bear coming in.
Me and Brody both got up.
It was a second year cub comingin, first the other one come in
.
Mom never showed herself.
She worked her way around,tried to circle around, get her
wind and we were able to trackthe cubs, track and mom as she

(44:48):
worked her way around to us andshe come over and she sniffed
our ground blind right besidewhere Brody was sitting.
Brody was yeah, that's prettygood, Painted his pants a little
bit.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
You could hear it breathing.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Like one more step.
I'm punching her in the nose.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
It's a piece of fabric between me and this bear.
Right, we don't know how bigthis bear is.
It could have been a 100-poundbear.
It could have been a 300-poundbear.
I have no idea.
Probably a 100-pound bear.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
How big of a bear are you willing to wrestle?
I guess, like what, give me aweight.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Like a three-day-old cub.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I was pushing Brody down.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
I was definitely the first to go.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
It was right by me how big would you be?
I'm thinking, I mean, I'm asmall guy myself, but I was like
you know what?
120?
.
I'd give him a run for themoney 120-pound bear?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
I'm thinking maybe my max may be like a 70.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, that's probably 70-pound bear.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I know I'm getting a little cocky there, You're right
.
Probably 50, honestly, Actually, I probably think I'd get
thrown around by a first-yearcub.
But 70.
Yeah, 70-pound yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I think I I was running regardless.
I had a 100-pound sow.
It false charged me at likeseven yards and I didn't want to
fight that.
I'll tell you that.
No, no, not a bit yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
So yeah, we had the sow sneak around.
She sniffed her blind.
She made some sort of woofingnoise.
She woofed at her.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Was that scary?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
No, no, not at all.
She made like a woof.
At her cubs.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Oh yeah yeah, she was nervous.
She knew we were there.
She was about 3 centimetersfrom my leg, so she probably
smelled us.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Was she woofed, though did it scare you?

Speaker 2 (46:28):
It wasn't loud, it wasn't aggressive.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
It was just like a little noise she wanted her cubs
to get the hell out of there.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
So that was Tuesday night, that was our hunt.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
That's pretty cool.
We didn't see anything else.
Black bears aren't aggressive.
I've only ever been scared ofthat one bear that charged me
because she was young with cubs,Famous last words right.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Oh no, they're a very curious natured animal, they're
not grizzlies, but people doget killed by them, but they're
not normally overly aggressive.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I think you've got to put yourself in a situation
where you shouldn't be kind ofthe wrong place at the wrong
time kind of deal to getyourself into something any
suggestions?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
no I mean, when I go out baiting, I don't, I don't
bring a weapon, just go out andbait.
They let you come in, they feedthem and then you leave and
they come back.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
That's yeah, they know they're not going to get
fed.
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Maybe, well, I mean probably, some bears do know
that's the hand that feeds me.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, don't bite it.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I've been baiting bears before and you walk in and
they spook off and they go 80yards and lay down and watch you
bait.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah well that bear that we went in.
She probably hadn't seen usbefore.
Definitely because the baithadn't been hit and she probably
hadn't seen us beforedefinitely because the bait
hadn't been hit and she juststood there and watched us.
We set the ground blind up andshe watched us do it.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
So she wasn't scared.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
She just walked off.
Anyways, that was the secondnight, that was pretty good.
That was pretty cool, so Johngot to see some bears, right,
yep.
Wednesday yeah what happenedWednesday?
Wednesday, that was the fishday.
John went out, caught a pile offish, had a good time.
We went out and sat uh, I don'tremember what bait we sat at
that night.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I wasn't there.
So, yeah, why?
Um, I was busy at camp.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
No.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Yeah, it was just me and John that went out that
night.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
We didn't anything um , but john wasn't too
disappointed about it.
He only had two days.
He was happy to come out.
He knows john's a great guyright.
So hunting it is hunting, right.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
There's nothing you can do about the weather was
subpar, even though that was thebest day weather we had.
But, um, yeah, that was it forjohn.
John left that next morningbrought in two new guys we
hadn't really met before, so no,uh, no, I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
You kind of knew, just through this, right, I knew
john.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I worked with john and I actually worked with john
back when we worked at cabela'stogether.
That's where we first met.
So that was a day ago yeah, um,so me and john have been
buddies for quite a while, sothat worked out good, but so the
the other guys had committee.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
You didn't really know them.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I I knew brody from work Like I worked with him
before and he's a good guy, andthe only way I knew Lucas and
Mark was from messaging themover through the page.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
So I didn't know them from a hole in the wall.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
really.
I'm just going to hit recordhere, no.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
So two great guys, I mean Lucas and Mark, are really
great guys.
I don't have much to say aboutthem other than you know.
You try to get some good peoplein camp and you hope they're
not crazy by the time they getback there.
And we lucked out with all theguys.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Hope the PTSD isn't too strong.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
You know, it's funny that you say that there is a
concern about it, right?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
It wasn't meant to necessarily be a joke.
No, you know we can laugh andjoke about it, right and blow it
off, but you know there therecan be a concern.
Yeah, for that.
Um, thankfully, likefirefighters typically don't
have any like like firearmconcerns typically right like so
.
No, it was good more.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
But like I'll tend to fire, I'll tell you it's kind
of big, yeah, kind of big, and Iit's you big and I it's you
know I talk about it as a mentalhealth program.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I don't shove it down your throat right, like I don't
need to bring you in and sityou down and say we're going to
study.
You know the effects of PTSD onfirst responders.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Because you are in that line of work.
So it's relatable for you andthey could trust you when you're
just like I've been therebecause you literally have been,
but when you are in camp, doyou guys?
Am I prying too much?

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Do you talk about it?
There's nothing formal, right.
I don't go in there and be liketell me the worst thing you've
ever seen.
Like you know, you get talking.
I did this.
Oh, I've done this, and then youknow you just roll in a
conversation and just havingthose conversations with people
that have been there andexperienced that with you.
That's where you're going tofind your growth and your
healing right.
I'm not going to bring you inand sit you down with a textbook

(50:54):
and be like you know.
We're going to learn about PTSD.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Before we go bear hunting, I want to hear what
kind of shit you've been.
That's not what it's aboutright.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
I can bring you back in the woods and we'll go
hunting and it'll all pour outand we'll talk about it, and
when you leave, you're gonnafeel better.
That's, that's the goal of it,right?
It's a mental health programwith no formal mental health
anything to it, right?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
do you think that does help a lot, though?
Just people just talking aboutit oh, for sure right getting it
out and and, like I said, Imean when they're saying is that
you're?
Doing it alone.
They know you've done it.
Yeah, they're not just talkingto you.
Know me, fireman truck driver,they're talking to you.
You, you're a paramedic, you'vebeen a volunteer firefighter
for you know the best thing thatcan happen.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
When you're having a bad day, is somebody come tell
you they've had a bad day beforetoo, right you know everybody,
everybody deals with the samething.
We're not all doing it alone wedon't talk about it, right as
much as we should, because youknow, as you put up this big
guard, that you're the big badguy.
Right?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
nothing phases you right yeah, but everybody deals
the same thing.
Casually shoot the shit, butyeah, it comes natural and and I
don't prod.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
If you don't want to talk about it, we don't talk
about it.
If you do, we talk and welisten.
Right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
That's good.
Back to the bear hunting.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Right Back to the good stuff.
Well, this is all part of it.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Thursday, thursday.
What happened Thursday, caleb?
Yeah, so Mark and we went out.
We were heading to the cut bait.
It's the furthest bait fromcamp.
It's 20K, so it's a good littlejaunt.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, it's not bad.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
We started the night out on a pretty high note Hold
on.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
It's 20 kilometers for American friends listening.
How many miles.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
If they go on chat GPT they can convert.
That I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I don't know.
I'm terrible at that.
I think it's like what 11, 12miles.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
How many inches is that?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
So, me and Mark, we were going to the cut bait and
we started off on a pretty highnote.
We got 10 kilometers away fromcamp, realized we forgot chairs
to sit in the ground blind, soit wasn't going to be a
comfortable night.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Did you turn around?
No, no, no, it's too far wewere getting in.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, it was 10 kilometers, but it's a slow 10
kilometers.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
It's a 45-minute drive In New.
Brunswick.
We judge distance by time.
It's a 45-minute drive, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
So and we were like I don't know, we were kind of
late leaving to the first nightthat they were there, anyways.
So, yeah, I was like we're notturning back, we're going to
make do with what we got andwe're going to do what we have
to do.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
So you see this when I have my hand, you know what
that's a good guide.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
That's why I brought him back there.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Oh yeah, you brought him back.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
You've got to make those decisions right?
Are we turning around and we'regoing to get an hour of hunting
out of?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
this or are we going to those great decisions?
Could have remembered to bringthe chairs, that's true.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
But listen to the story.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
You've got to get into it.
You've got to hear the rest ofthe story.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Maybe, and I don't know, maybe it was just a part
of my tactic, or maybe it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I don't know.
We'll be the judge of that.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
We get back there and this is the same bait that
Brody and I walked in on, thatbear sleeping.
And we got back there and sureenough, I was like mark, is that
?
I was looking through mybinoculars, is that a bear?
Yeah, it's a bear and it's likeit's a pine thicket and you
could see through the underbrushgo to ways.
Yeah, and we got in there andwe're we're trying to get a shot

(54:15):
.
But she was facing likestraight on and then we were
working our way in and then shedidn't really give us a shot.
So I was like, well, no, wecan't really, we don't really
have a shot.
I don't really like takingfrontals or nothing like that.
We want to make sure we make agood ethical kill on her.
We're gonna shoot her.
So she ended up walking likestraight away from us and she
wasn't spooked or anything likethat.

(54:35):
And I said, mark, why don't wejust?
We'll just set up.
There's a couple of trees rightbeside the ground, blind.
We had we moved some brusharound to give us a little bit
more cover.
So why don't we just we justlean against a couple trees out
here and we'll see what happens?
We waited probably about an hourand we heard a branch on a tree
from like a low-lying branch,that was dead snap.

(54:58):
And you know, you know there'sa.
There's a different soundbetween just stepping on a stick
in the woods and breaking a dry, low-lying branch off a tree.
And as we heard that, and welook over and Mark's looking for
it and I spot it first and Mark, mark, she's circling downwind
of us, she's trying to getdownwind and he got she's
circling around and he was ableto get himself set up in a very

(55:23):
awkward position to make thisshot and she walks through a
shooting lane.
He shoots a shot.
He was using a 270.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
And I was videoing it .
Thank you for that.
Telling us the gun, I'm alwayscurious.
I don't know the gun, but Iknow the caliber.
Yes, good job.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
So, yeah, he shoots offhanded, I'll give it to him.
It was a really awkward shotand the bear ran and we couldn't
really tell if it was hurt ornot.
We watched the video back and Iwas like, yeah, I don't know.
She was walking towards the end.
She didn't seem too spooked ortoo hurt and we looked around

(56:05):
for probably an hour and we werelooking for blood and we we
played the video back and wewalked her exact tracks for 100
yards or more, because you couldsee a long ways through there
on the camera and there wasn't aspot of blood no, but you know
bears are, they don't bleed muchso we got.
Uh, then after a while we gotlooking around and we found the

(56:25):
tree that she was standing infront of and he, like he shot
low, like real low, on the bear.
So we figured that bear wasfine I don't even know if he
grazed it or not and I was like,well, we may as well, we'll go
to another bait.
I guess, like we still had lotsof time.
We'd only been, we'd only beenI don't know, hunting for two
hours.
We still had another hour time.
We'd only been, we'd only beenI don't know, hunting for two
hours.
We still had another hour and ahalf left of daylight or

(56:46):
whatever.
So it's like, well, let's go onto the next spot.
So we went back over to thebeaver bait, and I don't
particularly like guiding peopleover baits.
I know there's like a sow withcubs around, especially on the
ground, just because there is adanger factor to it.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Like you don't want to get between the sow and the
cubs, and you're definitely notgoing to shoot a sow with cubs.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
And the reason he doesn't like guiding is because
when you're guiding anon-resident, you're not legally
allowed to hunt so legally hecan't defend himself against a
bear right Because he can't havea gun, so he's relying on Mark,
who we already know can't shootright and Mark's going to like
that For those listening, canadayou know I've got some great
friends in the States where theycarry a sidearm on them when

(57:26):
they're bear hunting, whichmakes sense.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
You know that's good.
In Canada.
Not a chance.
Are you allowed to carryanything?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
No, we won't get into that.
I guess I have a lot to say,but we won't get into that.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
So yeah, we went to the beaver bait and we were only
there for don't know, probably,I don't know 30 minutes.
We had a bear come in and uh,we were waiting for a good shot
and he mark clicked his safetyoff just to get ready and she
made like a hurdle up the tree,like just she was just above the
barrel.
I was like, well, she'sbroadside.
That's a pretty good shot.
If you're comfortable with it,go ahead.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
She was a dry sound.
No cubs, right, nothing.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yeah, so he shot and we could see in the video he
smoked her.
We give her a few minutes.
I don't remember.
I don't think we heard a deathmoan.
I don't remember hearing thatin the story.
I don't remember hearing thatin the story.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
No, I don't think we heard a death moan.
I'll tell you the death moans.
I know what's a good sign.
It means, like you nailed it,they're done, but it's a
terrible sound.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yeah, it's terrifying .
It's nice when you just dropthem at the bait.
That was easy.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
It means it's good, like with my bear that I got
this year.
I hit it right in the aorticvalve, cut that off with the bow
and it made the death sound.
I knew it was dead, I knew itwas dying.
It went maybe 20 yards but it'snot a real wonderful sound.
But I mean it's good as ahunter.
It's a good sound it's supposedto be, but you know.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, so we got boots on the ground and, yeah, we
started finding some pretty goodblood and, yeah, she probably
ran 40 yards and piled up insome alder bushes.
She was a beautiful bear.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
So how was it?
How nice was it?
Great big V?
Yeah, it was nice, the whiteyeah.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
We've got a lot here in the Brentsville.
We don't have any color-phasedVery, very, very few.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Brody's bear had it as well.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
We've got the nice white.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
I find that's quite common.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
She had really good meat on her too.
It was real clean.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Really nice bear.
How was?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
your hunter.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Mark was over the top .

Speaker 2 (59:36):
He had shot bears before, but not in New Brunswick
.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
In Nova.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Scotia they don't have a spring season, so it was
his first spring bear.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
He was pretty pumped.
It was pretty cool for Mark too, because, uh, funny thing, mark
uh sells like uh loggingequipment.
So he was familiar with thearea we were in.
He had been in those cutsbefore he had no idea what you
say.
He's a firefighter he's, he's,he's a firefighter and he sells
logging equipment and he sellshe's works.
For what's he sell?
Ponzi, I think okay so he knew.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
He knew that he was familiar with the area.
He knew all the area.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
We were, yeah, yeah, cool, so it was pretty cool for
him to actually go in there andhunt and play a different role
back there right in a differentprovince I'm gonna tell you not
a lot of people have been backthere so it's pretty cool that
he was able.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
That is cool.
Yeah, he'll probably besneaking into the baits next
year, so that's all right, he's.
He's welcome back so so yeah,we uh, we drug him out to the
bike.
We gutted him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
And who mark you drug mark out to the bike?
Yeah, and then I had to go backand get the bear.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
No, mark and I drug the bear out to the bike and
okay yeah, we got it out thereand we threw it on the front of
the bike and headed back to camp.
Nice we actually thought it waspretty good luck that we forgot
chairs that night.
So because I would say thefirst bear he shot at, if we had
brought chairs we would havebeen secluded in the ground,

(01:00:59):
blind, and we would have had allthe windows up.
So that way there was no.
No, you know what I mean,there's backdrop or whatever, so
that way.
So we were in the dark and wewouldn't have seen her circling
around you kind of seem likeyou're always in the dark, caleb
try to keep him there, yeah, so, yeah, I think if we had
brought chairs and we weresitting in the blind, we

(01:01:20):
probably wouldn't have seen thatfirst bear, and I don't know if
she would have come into thebait or not.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
It's neat how that happened so yeah, it was pretty
cool.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
And you're kind of lucky, like when you're the
first group of hunters that comein.
You get to kind of pick whatbait you want to go to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Which is nice because you're first pick, right, and
then the second group.
Well, nobody else is huntingthem after you, so you just get
to go to all of them if you want.
So for mark to be able to youknow, essentially blow to bait
for the night, right by shootingand then looking dragon bear
nothing, probably not going tosee a bear there that night.
So for him to be able to go toa different bait and have the

(01:01:54):
opportunity to do that thatnight, I mean, he would have
been pretty bummed if that werethe case.
Right, because you never knowwhat that's going to do to a
bait over the next couple days,right, yeah?
So yeah, it was pretty good.
I was really happy for Gregthat he was able to do that.
I think Mark's pretty happy too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
And yeah, yeah he's pretty stoked.
Lucas that night obviously hadwhat bait he could pick right
and I had one bait and it hadthis good-sized bear, like
300-plus pound bear, and it wasa little sporadic, it wasn't
coming in all the time, it wascoming in right at dark.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
What bait were you guys at that night?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
That night we were at the track bait, so that first
night.
So I gave him the option.
I'm like, look, this bear isn'there a lot, but he's a good
bear, Like this is going to belike a trophy bear.
And he's like you know what,let's, let's go for it, let's
try to see first night.
He's like we got two more, soin three days isn't a lot of
time, right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
No, it goes by quick.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
It'd be nice to take guys out for a full week, but he
just wouldn't be able to takeas many guys out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah, you're taking off work and all this time,
everything for free yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean, what you're offeringis really good.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
It's pretty good, yeah, and everybody, like I
asked, like all the guys afterwith feedback, I'm like would
you like three days, five days,like what would you like?
They're like the three days wasgood yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
You don't have to take to some miserable weather
too, yeah because I know youguys it was a terrible week.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
It really was, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
So the first night we didn't see anything with.
Lucas Wrapped it up, came back,mark had his bear.
We were like you know, we werethrowing Mark in the air, we
were cheering for him.
It was great, it was his moment.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Threw him right into, like so happy form.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Never come back.
Next morning, obviously we hada bear in camp, right, so dealt
with that a little bit, skinnedit out.
We went, me and Lucas went outhunting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
I'm guessing that Logan was a big help with
cutting.
Yeah he was.
Yeah, he's good at that.
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
And like really clean , like I was looking at Mark's
meat.
They cut Mark's bear up backthere in the woods, just deboned
it, and I was looking at themeat Clean, clean Logan is good
at that Nice red meat.
It was really, really good meatand it was all froze up.
I wasn't quite froze by thetime Mark left.
I don't remember what Mark saidhe was going to do with it, but

(01:04:22):
he was pretty excited to have abunch of meat.
Oh yeah, especially like bear'sgood eating right it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
It's really good eating.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
So me and Lucas took off that second night for him
and they were still cutting thebear up and we got out and we
were watching this nice bearcome in.
It was like probably would havebeen the biggest bear of the
week for sure, probably like 250pounds give or take, the one
that got away, the one that gotaway.
And the bear came in and he sawit first and he could see his

(01:04:54):
head and it was kind of behindthe downed tree and it was kind
of looking at us and we gave ita bit and it came into the bait.
It was really weary, right, itknew something was up, mind you,
we went to a different bait, wewent to the north bait and
that's where Brody shot his bearon Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
We're now— I got a question you guys said something
about was it the click bait?

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah, this is the story.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
So Lucas has this beautiful .30-30.
Lever action Lever actionMarlin Gold trigger Marlin 336.
It's a nice gun yeah Well thisbear finally gives him a shot
and the gun just goes click andnothing happened.

(01:05:40):
A lever action's not too quietwhen you're cycling it, it's not
known for that, not normally.
So he's kind of scrambling toeject and get a new bullet in.
He's trying to go slow and ofcourse when you go slow it
doesn't feed right and it's justAnyways.
the bear walked off.
It didn't spook off, but itwalked off.

(01:06:02):
It heard the click of the gunand it walked off.
It didn't spook off, but itwalked off.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
It heard the click of the gun and it walked off, so
it just misfired.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
I don't know if it was like a false primer strike
or something.
He had a bullet with a strikeprimer in it that didn't go off.
He found it in his pocket after.
He's like I don't know if Ididn't put one in or if it just
was a false strike, but I wasvideoing the whole thing and my
GoPro didn't take a video of itof him.

(01:06:27):
So I'm like I'll give you thebenefit of the doubt.
We'll say it was a false primerstrike.
So that's what we're going with.
However, in his honor, werenamed the bait the click bait,
just for him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
I like it.
Yeah, I made his mark for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Yeah, and you know I told him, trying to be a nice
guy, don't worry too much, likethat bear will be back, and it
did.
It came back like an hour laterbut it just got darker and
darker and it wouldn't come past.
Like where that down tree was,we could see its head.
It was like 60 yards away andit was just staring at us.

(01:07:01):
Not much yards away.
And it was just staring at us.
Not much you could do, justwrapped it up for the night.
Next night we went out, um, wedidn't see anything that next
night either.
So that saturday night,saturday night, so last night.
Yeah, it was a littleunfortunate.
I was really hoping we couldget him a bear, right,
especially the guys coming fromnova scotia, right?
Yeah, it's a lot harder to getthem back if they don't get a

(01:07:23):
bear or somebody from NewBrunswick.
In the fall, I could take themto a cornfield and be like
there's a bear, you can get them, but you know, the guys from
Nova Scotia.
It might be a little harder forhim to come from Truro to do
that Right, and he already cameso far out into those woods and
you know you really want, butyou know it was a little

(01:07:44):
bittersweet.
It's the experience.
He definitely had a good chance.
It just didn't work out for him, for whatever reason.
So everything happens for areason, but he wasn't.
He wasn't bitter about it oranything.
Lucas is a really good guy.
So he was.
He was happy to leave, but hehe caught a lot of fish too, so
he had a really good timefishing and a really good time
in camp.
So, yep, and a really good timein camp.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
It was great.
Four guys and four guys seenbears.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Everybody saw a bear.
That was good.
A week before the season.
I thought that might be astruggle.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Well, everyone got a 100% free bear hunt experience.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
That's it.
It's hunting, right, and thegood thing about the program is
you're bringing in guys thatalready hunt maybe not
necessarily bears, but they'vehunted before.
They know the reality, right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, well, yeah, you can do as much as you can, but
you're hunting.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Like there's only so much you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Yeah, guys, that hunt to understand, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
I run.
I ran the baits like a monthand a half before as well as I
could.
I threw everything out of themand they were new baits too.
So brand new baits, right.
And you know you're in themiddle of nowhere.
You know the bears, can you.
When you're kind of rural, youknow where you can set up for
bears because you know you setup on the edge of agriculture

(01:08:56):
and woods.
Well, that's where the bears aregoing to be when you're back
there.
They're so far spread.
There's a ton of bears backthere, but they've got a hundred
square kilometers of liketravel distance that they can go
to you don't know where they'regoing to be crossing for feed.
But you know, you strategicallypick your places, you're going
to set up baits and hope for thebest, and I think it worked out

(01:09:17):
.
Yeah, we had good bear action,I will say.
And it's going to suck for theguys that hunted with us for the
week.
The week after, beautifulweather, 26 degrees every day,
no rain, and the baits were onfire yeah.
I had so many bears on the baitsand they're going to hate to
hear that because you know wewould have been not saying like,
oh, there's the bear.

(01:09:38):
We would have been saying whichone are we going to shoot,
because there was that manybears on the base.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Are you thinking about doing it a week later?
I mean, no one could predictthe weather.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
You can't predict the weather, obviously, like every
season's, different.
This year was a little bitlater for everybody.
The bears were up later.
I would say it was probably twoweeks late.
I'd agree with that, yeah itwas late, which was like usually
like that last week of May,which is what we went out and

(01:10:05):
you're like you're starting toget into the good bear action,
into those first couple of daysof June, and then, yeah, that's
usually when it starts pickingup.
So I thought, well, why don'twe get out that week?
It seemed like a good week, myschedule wise, so that's the
week I picked, but I picked itin August of the year before, so

(01:10:25):
it's not like you can plan whathow the winter is going to be
and how the bears are going toact Right, so you're just
praying it greens up by the timeyou get out there and there's
some leaves, because they got toeat that grass and they got to
eat that green stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Get that plug out yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
And it and it wasn't like two weeks before the season
, there was finally some greenalong the roads back there and,
like it, greened up at home inthe fields.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
But when you're in the middle of bog.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
There's nothing green but the shoulder of the trail.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
And it doesn't green up quick yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
So yeah, so it turned out good, though.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Well, I got to ask.
Next year I will be doing it aweek later.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Okay, I was going to ask what.
So you're going to do it againnext year?
Yeah, for sure.
You're going to do it a weeklater, if I can get.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
I might not be able to get the same guys out because
I may have ruined them, but ifI can find two more guys to be
crazy enough to come out for theweek, I think Caleb and Logan
are committed to next year aswell.
They had a good time, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
It's a week for yourself, Caleb, but you're
going to come out next year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Yeah it was hard.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Yeah, it probably will.
You're soon to bebrother-in-law.
Yeah, he has no choice.
Yeah, you're obligated.
He's the worst in the familynow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Exactly we have to have one good guy in the family

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
be the first week of june, so so I gotta ask are you
doing it?
Are americans included?
So I am in province, out ofprovince sticking with canadians
.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Okay, I think that's going to be the thing uh easier
I just had.
I just had so many applicantsalready like people interested.
I'm assuming they'll probablybe interested next year, right,
yeah and yeah, and it's justlike I take out four guys a year
.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Yeah, I just can't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I need to know like if it was a week long or two
weeks long, I'd take Americans.
But to bring a guy in from youknow, texas.
He's going to travel up to dothree days with me and I got to
go to the airport and get him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I just I can't be in the woods and picking up guys
and arranging that like maybe inthe future, if it expands and
you know, I don't know what itcould grow to, if it grows at
all yeah, but for now we'll keepit the way it is and and stick
with the canadian the veteranhunters for sure, like it's a,
it's a canadian program, rightlike um, so for them it would
have to be.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Canadians, so people looking to possibly help out or
anything, tell us how can theyfind you, Brody?

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yeah, so you can find me on Facebook.
It's the main social platformthat I use, so you can look me
up.
Thinlionhunts.
I got a Facebook page.
You can message me there.
You can follow me there.
Keep yourself updated on thatpage.
I'm on Instagram hunts.
I got a facebook page.
You can message me there.
You follow me there.
Um, keep yourself updated onthat page.
I'm on instagram.
There's a tiktok just because Iwanted to hold the the name.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
If I ever needed a tiktok.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
I posted the links on there.
There's a couple little videosand uh, and I've got uh, what
else?
A youtube.
But there's not much on youtubeyet.
But I am going to post brody'svideo when I get it all matched
together.
So I do have a good.
I got some really good film ofBrody.
Well, what I think is good, I'msure he'll love it, but it's
just a memory for him, right.
It doesn't matter what it lookslike, but it'll be something for

(01:13:34):
him to keep and it's prettycool a little film for Lucas.
But if he knew how to load agun, Shout out.
No, he's going to like that.
He was really good about it.
There's not much he can doabout that, right yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
The exact little Brody.
We appreciate what you're doing, caleb, we appreciate you
helping Brody what he's doing.
And Thin Line Hunts.
Everybody look him up and ifyou're looking for any more
information that you can't getfrom there, hit us up.
Hunts on Outfitting Podcast.
And thanks for coming on, boys.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Thanks for having me, Ken.

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