December 31, 2024 • 33 mins
Join us on the Hunts On Outfitting Podcast as we embark on an extraordinary moose hunting journey in Newfoundland with our special guest, Mackenzie Brewer. Mackenzie, an experienced outdoorsman and passionate hunter, shares captivating stories from his adventures across different terrains, from his childhood hunting expeditions with his father to his current pursuits in the beautiful wilderness of Saskatchewan. Unravel the unexpected twists of the fur market and discover the profound connection Mackenzie has with the great outdoors.
Experience the thrill and camaraderie of a moose hunting expedition in the rugged landscapes of Newfoundland. You’ll feel the excitement of Mackenzie’s unforgettable trip gifted by his great uncle, complete with a stomach-churning ferry ride from Nova Scotia and a daring helicopter drop-off at a secluded camp. As the story unfolds, Mackenzie paints a vivid picture of the excitement, humor, and unpredictability of the hunt, highlighting the logistical challenges and unexpected surprises that make moose hunting an adventure like no other.
The episode also explores the cherished memories of hunting during the rut season, learning from missed opportunities, and the importance of supportive guidance from fellow hunters. Mackenzie recounts a personal tale of a father-son hunting trip, underscoring the bonding and memorable experiences shared along the way. From humorous anecdotes to heartwarming connections, this episode is packed with adventure, lessons learned, and the timeless thrill of the hunt. Tune in for an engaging exploration of the wilds of Newfoundland and the spirit of hunting camaraderie.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
this is hunts and outfitting podcast.
I'm your host and rookie guide,ken meyer.
I love everything hunting theoutdoors and all things
associated with it, from storiesto howos.
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Welcome to the podcast.
All right, thanks for joiningus on Hunts and Outfitting
Podcast this week.
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On the podcast we're happy tohave you, as always, if you guys
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It's very much appreciated.
On the podcast this week we'regoing moose hunting.
We haven't had any moosehunting stories in a little bit,
so we are going to Newfoundland, the island of Newfoundland,
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and saying that, thinking aboutthe island there, newfoundland's
known for its fishing that'skind of how it was created is
people going there to fish?
They ended up bringing somemoose along later on and it's a
moose hunting haven, as we'regoing to hear about later.
And speaking about that, Ican't help but feel the need to
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Brunswick.
We've had a lot of snow.
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Now, with the podcast this week,we're excited to introduce to
you Mackenzie Also.
This podcast, this episode isbeing recorded.
It is on our YouTube pageHuntsman Outfitting Podcast on
YouTube.
If you guys do feel like youknow what are these happy people
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look like that are talking onhere?
Well, you can see.
If not, though, we reallyappreciate you guys listening in
.
So this week on the podcast wehave someone that we've been
trying to get on a few times nowMackenzie Brewer.
Mackenzie is a local here by me.
He's been cutting his teeth,hunting and farting around in
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the outdoor world for a littlewhile, and this week we are
going to talk to him about hismoose hunt in the province of
Newfoundland, mackenzie.
Welcome to the podcast.
Thanks for having me Anytime, sowe've been trying to make this
happen for a little bit.
You work out west in Alberta,saskatchewan.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Saskatchewan yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I asked him like Kenzie, are you home for the
holidays?
He's like, yep, sure am.
I'm like, well, let's get apodcast on and, you know, get it
going.
So you've been hunting for alittle while now.
Why don't you tell us aboutyour start in it?
And who are you?
Who's everyone listening to?
You know, paint us a picture.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
All right, I'm Mackenzie Brewer, I'm 25.
I've been hunting pretty muchsince I was probably five.
I always used to go out withDad when he was hunting and then
I kind of used to go by myselfa little bit.
My younger years, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I've been hunting Legally and illegally, but
that's okay, you know, it's thecountry and as long as you're
not hurting anybody.
No harm, no foul.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But yeah, said I grew up.
Yeah, you're five years youngerthan me and I grew up with your
cousin.
Then we'd always see you.
You know farting around, comealong hunting and all that and
shooting coons.
You did some trapping too.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I trapped for a few years in high school, but
then the market fell out of thefur so I got into it?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
What did you mainly target when you were doing the
trapping?
I did quite a few coons Okayyeah, what were you getting for
them at their peak?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I can't even remember .
I think the year I get into itfur prices were up, so you could
get like 50 bucks a raccoon.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You were getting that much.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, they did the year before I get into it.
Oh, and then I get into it andwe shipped her furs and we were
getting like 25.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Per coon.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's not too bad.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I wasn't.
I had a guy that was a trapper,so I'd catch them and skin them
and then he'd flash them andstretch them and all that stuff.
So I gave him half my fur check.
That was the deal.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh, okay, well, fair enough really.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I caught a bobcat that year and Buddy's like yeah,
it's probably worth like $250,$300.
Nice cat I'm like perfect and Isent it to the auction and I
got $24 for it and I had to giveBuddy half because he did all
the work and stuff on it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You're getting $25 for raccoon and you get that
much for a bobcat well, I thinkI had to double check that maybe
raccoons were less.
But once I sold the bobcat for$24 it really pissed me off, so
I got rid of it you weren'tgoing to get rich doing it, and
where we are too, you know we'renot uh somewhere down south or
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whatever where they don't getsnow and the pelts don't get as
thick.
I mean we have, uh, really goodpelts here, yeah, really good
quality, because it does getcold, fairly cold, yeah, um.
So yeah, that's low.
I just recently got into it wasa we got, uh, we got four
beaver, two muskrat, a mink andour otter, which is kind of cool
in a week, in less than a week,but anyways, I haven't flushed
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them out yet.
They're in the freezer.
Skin them, flushed them out.
So I guess that's a bit of aprocess.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I've been told yeah, yeah, you want to know what
you're doing yes, it's a lot ofwork, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
flushing them yeah, yeah, you get that draw knife
and you're working away at it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, catching them is like half the work.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
All right, because that's been a bit of work with
all the snow we have luggingthrough all that Then, once you
get back to the fur shed, it's alot more work.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's where the fun begins.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah.
So, mackenzie, you went on amoose hunt in Newfoundland.
For those that don't know,newfoundland is a province in
Canada.
It is surrounded by water.
From Nova Scotia, which is theclosest province to it on land,
it is about an eight-hour ferryride, give or take, depending on
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the weather, I remember if yougo on I've been through there
quite a few times trucking ifyou go on and they're chaining
down all of the trailers andeverything, you know, you're in
for a rough ride like why do youguys chain though, down?
They're like huh, it's a lot ofwind.
oh boy, I was seasick on thereonce on the ferry remember, it's
the little things in life thatyou take for granted, like when
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you're laying in your bed atnight at your house and your
bed's not moving.
You just, you don't, you don'teven think about that, you just
go to bed, you don't thinkanything of it.
I'll tell you, when you're on aboat and the thing's just going
up and down, up, and thenyou're just praying like stop
moving, stop moving, it's not.
I was like you know what?
I'm never going to look at mybed at home the same way again
it it's not moving, it's notrocking, and once you get
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seasick it does, because theboat's still going up and down,
up and down.
Yeah, I'm not a water guy, no,ocean guy, no, no, not an ocean
guy.
Don't have any sea legs.
No, I didn't have a sea gut bythe end of it.
So, yeah, tell us about thismoose hunt that you went on.
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So you said said, what you weresaying before is about what?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
eight years ago, yeah , it was the fall of 2016.
So eight years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Newfoundland is known for a lot, a lot of moose.
They've got moose, they've gotbear and they've got caribou for
their big game species.
They do not have any deer, no,or skunks or porcupines or
anything like that no, or skunks, or porcupines, or anything
like that.
No, all right, mackenzie.
So tell us how this hunt cameabout and how you got to go on
it, and just your mentalchecklist too, before leaving.
(08:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So I guess it was a grad gift for me from my great
uncle.
He called my dad and he saidhey, do you think mackenzie
would want to go to newfoundlandthis fall hunting?
And dad said yes.
My uncle said why aren't yougonna ask him?
And dad said nope, I don't needto he said that he'd rather me
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go instead.
Yeah, yeah, just asked him realquick but uh so anyways, fano's
going and we got the rifle allsighted in.
I borrowed a buddy's .300 WinMag.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So I got that sighted in, got all of our stuff ready
when we left.
We were planning on just mehaving a tag.
Well, there was four of us thatwent.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Four people with tags .
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, there was four of us that went.
We were planning on havingthree tags.
Okay, so it would be my greatuncle and my dad's cousin and my
dad and me.
So we were planning on dad nothaving a tag, just kind of going
for the trip.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But then when we got there, he ended up getting a tag
.
Oh surprise, but we only hadone gun between the two of us.
So, dad's well, you shoot yourmoves first and then, if we got
time, then I'll shoot one.
Okay, all right but yeah, itwas fun, we went over uh, so how
did you?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
what outfitter did you use?
How did you go about findingthat outfit?
Your uncle planned that partout.
Yeah, he had that all yeah,orchestrated lined up.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
We went to, uh, adventure.
Yeah, that's the name of it,right?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So we went, we got to the main lodge after our boat
ride and stuff and we spent thekind of got settled into the
main lodge and spent a nightthere.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So what area is the main lodge?
So there's a business ownerfrom our area that owns
Adventure Quest Outfitters,murray Crookshank.
The main lodge is that inStephenville, newfoundland.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I was 16.
I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, I don't even remember the exact area.
I think it's near there, butyeah, so you guys got to the
main lodge.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yep, so we spent a night there, and then the next
afternoon we got on a helicopter.
Yep, that'd be cool they flewus to the camp we were hunting
out.
Oh, that was really cool.
I don't like turbulence in ahelicopter, though yeah it's way
worse than a plane like.
I fly it west for work all thetime, but when you're in a
helicopter and you hitturbulence, it just drops
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straight down really like a lotlike, sometimes like six feet
did you really?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
yeah, oh, I didn't know that.
Did the pilot say anything?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
He's like oh, you might have some turbulence.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh you guys might want to put your head between
your legs and kiss your butt.
Goodbye.
There's no parachute.
I'd probably be a terriblepilot, cause I I would screw
with people a little bit onpurpose.
Yes, just just get a littlereaction Like I'm just kidding
with you guys.
I'm like oh no, but you knowit's not funny.
But you try to make a joke outof it.
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But he had everything undercontrol, so you weren't worried.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, no, it's good.
So actually, how it worked,when we flew out, it was kind of
a bad weather anyways.
Like flew out, it was kind of abad weather anyways, like
really windy and stuff.
Yeah, they had a lot ofturbulence.
Yeah, fair bet, and we actuallyended up.
I forget how we broke it up.
You had to make a few differenttrips with luggage and getting
people oh, because they got tohave so much weight.
(11:57):
Yeah, in there or they're onlyallowed to have so much, so much
weight.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah and that reminds me of uh, you guys run a moose,
since these guys they run anelk hunt, and uh, these guys had
all tagged out on their elk andthey, they got the elk loaded
up and everything.
There's four guys and thepilots like that that's way too
much weight, I can't take allfour of you and all these elk.
The guys like come on the pilot, last year, let us do it and
stuff right.
Yeah, so he's like okay, allright, you guys can, you know,
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bring everything.
So they go up, sure enough,come down, crash and then uh
yeah.
And then one of the hunters likedo you know where we are?
And then the other one's likeyeah, yeah, he said I think this
is the same spot that wecrashed last year.
All right, so anyways, back toyour moose hunt.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So yeah when we flew in on the helicopter.
I can't remember who all wasthere, but two of us were at the
camp, at the lodge that we weregoing to hunt out of, and they
didn't know if the weather keptgetting worse.
They didn't know if they weregoing to fly the other people
out.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh, the other hunters from your party.
Yeah, oh did you have the gun,or did your dad and were you
guys together?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, Uh, we split it up between gear.
I think there's.
I went with Amanda.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I think in the helicopter.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So there's two of us that went with some gear.
We kind of broke it up a littlebit, just in case the
helicopter did crash and didn'tkill everybody in the family.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So you were like well , I've got the gun and your
dad's looking.
He's like, oh, I've got aMcKenzie shaving kit.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, Pretty much Okay.
Anyways, we made it all in andAmanda, my dad's cousin.
She was actually pregnant atthe time.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I can't remember Going on a moose hunt.
Yeah, sorry, good for her.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's tough.
I think she was like four orsix months pregnant.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I wouldn't be able to go if I had a cold.
She was pregnant, growing humanshe went good for her.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
She got her bull the first day.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I can't say we're getting to that, I gotta, don't,
we gotta lead up to it.
Yes, well, all right, so youguys got.
I don't want to scold you onhere, but you know, um, so you
guys got to the king, you guysgot to the remote lodge.
Was that the only way to getthere was fly in, fly out?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
well, yeah, you can get there on an ergo, but it's
like a day and a half trip.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I was going to say it must take a while.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, yeah, okay so like the guides at the beginning
of the season, took the ergosin but it's with like a bunch of
food and stuff, but it's likequite a trip.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's a drive.
Yeah, wow, so it's remote whereyou guys are hunting.
Yeah, that's good, though Imean you want, yeah, I think it
was at least like 20 minutes inthe helicopter, yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's a little cover, alot of ground, you can, yeah,
yeah, there's no stop signs inthe air, no playing, I guess.
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But, um, yeah, okay.
So you guys got into yourremote camp the weather subsided
, I'm guessing so that you guyscould bring everyone else in the
gear.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, we all okay we all ended up making it it wasn't
looking good there for probablyhalf an hour or so, and then we
made it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Really.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, he's like.
Actually I think the last groupwas right there hovering over
the pond because the camp orthat lodge or whatever was right
on the edge of a.
They call it Cormac Lake.
It's about one kilometer wideby three kilometers long.
Oh, so it's a big lake.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So he put the helicopter like right on the
beach there right by the camp.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I got in like 20 feet away from where I was going to
land.
I didn't know if I dared landit, but I got her down and they
get out.
So I was like that would suck,going in the helicopter like 20
feet from where you're gonnaland and then be like nope,
sorry, see you later yeah, likewow, it all worked out we all
made it there good.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So you guys were like high fiving and hugging like
haven't even started hunting yet.
We barely made it here, yeah,um, so you guys got settled in.
What was, uh, I mean, what wasthe remote camp like?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
it was really nice.
Yeah, yep, they had, uh, therewas a few different bedrooms, I
guess, in it and they had likethe main one with the hunters,
and then it's got the kitchen init.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And then just off the kitchen there's another bedroom
for the cook, because she'd begetting up at like three in the
morning to start.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
So you guys, even at the remote camp, you guys still
had a cook.
Yeah, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
A cook and there was three guides there, so I think
one guide stayed in the maincamp with us and then there was
a separate camp for the othertwo guys.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Okay, nice, and then I'm guessing no other hunters
around, no Very remote area youdon't see anybody else.
No, no, okay, so you guys gotall settled in.
You wake up the first morning,and then what's the plan?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Are you going with your dad?
You and your dad and the guide.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well, I'll have it chuck out.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
All right, shake it in for us.
My uncle.
He had already been out there afew different times so he knew
one of the guides.
So he got him because they kneweach other and wanted to run
together, and then the other twoguides, I guess were coming
with me and dad.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
So we kind of just went on an Argo ride to check
out the area and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I think Amanda and her guide and Larry, my
uncle or my dad's uncle, theywent in the boat and there was a
little island, probably likethe size of your house, yeah, I
guess, just off the water, like40 yards.
So he brought the boat in andgot her set up on the island and
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then brought the boat, saidgood luck, yeah Well, he brought
the boat, I think, and hid upon the island and then, uh,
brought the boat, said good luck, yeah well, they brought the
boat, I think, and hit it behindthe island and then he called
from the island yep and they gota bull right out to shore and
she shot it first it's like,within the first, like within
the first hour of leaving thecamp to go hunting, gets dropped
off an island drops a bull.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, wow, that's quick, that's pretty good that's
really good.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was nice and by okay, that's pretty
cool.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Um, what, uh, what was she?
Do you know what she wasshooting for?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
a gun I think it was a 30 out six.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Okay, yeah, that'll do it yeah, so it's gonna wonder
that too.
What time of year were you guyshunting them?
And so if he was calling, I'mguessing they were rutting yeah,
I'm.
Yeah, I meant to look this upso I didn't sound like an idiot
on the podcast, but I think itwas in october sometime, okay
yeah, so that'd be a later right, because I mean, they're
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running here when we're huntingthem in new brunswick and that's
well, that's the end of sept, Iguess.
So yeah, so she got hers Prettygood-sized bull.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, it was a four or a six-pointer, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, I've got a picture of it here.
It was October 14th.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Okay, yeah, so they were calling yeah and everything
, yeah.
So then she got that, broughtit back to camp and you guys
were like all right, pressure'son, you know, let's make it
happen.
Newfoundland does have a lot, alot of moose.
I mean, the whole uh islandbasically is bog, and if it's
not bog, it's rocks, you knowlike so, um, all right.
So you guys got back.
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Did you guys see anything?
Did you see any wildlife?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
not, we didn't not that first day.
So then we hunted for the nextcouple of days I guess it was me
and dad and our two guides, andthen my uncle went with his
guide.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So when you, they kind of come up with a plan in
the morning where everyone washunting so you weren't screwing
each other up right you, youguys weren't calling back and
forth, like calling like I hearthe bulls, he's answering and
you guys are like I got a bullcoming at us.
Yeah, Bull, sounds like he's inan ergo.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, but anyways, we went out and hunted
for a couple days, never seenanything.
And then, how did that work?
I missed a bull.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
All right, let's back up a bit and unpack this one
out of the suitcase and it'sokay.
People miss, hunters miss.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But you missed on a hunting.
You're here to tell about it.
Once in a lifetime trip.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'm going to tell you how I screwed it up.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Sure, walk me through it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Let's go down memory lane for you, shall we?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, we'd gone in the boat across the lake, so it
was like a kilometer wide.
We went to the other side of it, yeah, and we get up into the
woods and we were calling and wehad moose all around us, but we
couldn't get anything to comeout into an opening enough that
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we could actually get a shot.
So we decided to change up theplan a little bit and we get
back into the boat and when wewere, we were going to go to the
other end of the lake yeah sowe started going in the boat and
the guide's like holy fuck,that's a moose up there on the
side hill.
I've never even seen one beforewe could it.
It was a kilometer away, aren'tyou a guide.
Yeah, so we're in the boat.
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So he's like I'm going to see ifI can get close enough to it.
So we get in fairly close withthe boat and then we hopped out
of the boat and ran aboutprobably 50 yards just so we
could get in the opening and seeit.
So the guide made a couple ofcalls and to stopped it and it's
probably like a 350 yard shot.
(21:13):
Yeah, but I have a really Iused to have a really bad habit
of like tilting up.
Okay, I'd always shoot overstuff.
You when you shoot, you'd likealways A mixture of that, and
I'd always aim high.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like I don't know why .
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Any particular reason .
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, they're like I'm used to shooting deer and
they're a little bit smallertarget.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And the gun was sighted right in at 200 yards
and he's like, oh, it's 350.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So I tilted, falling a meter above his head.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, pretty much yeah, and right behind him when
I took my first shot, there wasthis rock and it was like well,
it was a boulder.
It was probably like 10 feet by8 feet high.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, it sounds like Newfoundland.
It's rocks, boulders and bog.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, so I shot and you could see the bullet ping
off of this rock over his back.
Really, yeah, so anyways, thenit.
I think.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I shot at it.
In all fairness, you'reprobably a little nervous too.
Yeah, out of a moose, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And it was a nice bull too, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
No, that's understandable.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I shot over its back and missed, and then I shot
again, and I shot over it again.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Did the bull just bolt or was he like?
How was that?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The first shot he ran about 10 feet, oh, and then he
stopped and looked at us again,and then I tried to give him
another one, but I was shakingso bad.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
No, that's understandable.
I remember when I got a loose Igot better off with like a
slingshot.
Well.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Had a better chance of getting him, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
No, that can happen.
I remember when my uncle and Igot our loose and after I was
able to hold it together at thetime, but afterwards I was
shaking so bad I was trying toreload the gun again in case we
needed to, because we couldn'ttell.
It looked like it went down,but we weren't positive.
I was like you know, it's areal thing, you're just shaking
the moose fever, buck fever, youknow.
So then what did the guide say?
Like who brought this idiot?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
No, he's like that's all right it happens all the
time.
He's like ah, so you give me afew tips on shooting.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He did.
Okay, well, that's a good guide.
That's helpful, right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
But the gun I was using wasn't mine, so it was a
left-handed bolt.
Oh, that's different, so ittook me longer to reload it.
Yeah, so I ended up switchingguns with Amanda.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Because she didn't need hers.
Yeah, she was already taggedout.
She's done.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, so I got her 30 at six and then, uh, I think it
was the next day kind of, whereyou, we, went out in the Argos.
When you leave the camp you goin like a bit of a ravine and
follow it and then the trailsthat they had wide.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, so we uh, but the guy gave you a couple tips
on shooting.
He was cool about it.
Yeah, he was like no big dealyeah he wasn't an asshole or
anything.
That's good All right, heshouldn't be.
I was just seeing, I don't know, some people have tempers.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
No, he was all.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
They were good about it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I mean regardless, but yes, you switch
guns up yeah, you feel confidentwith that, that way you you can
reload, quicker you can reloadquicker if you miss another one
sure yep, but anyways uh, we'vegone out hunting for the day and
on the way back, just beforeyou get to the camp where we
were staying under the lodge,there were some wet holes there
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and I me and dad were in the air, going like.
I think maybe tomorrow, tomorrownight, we'll leave a little bit
earlier, like come back fromhunting earlier, and I said
because we're used to huntingbears.
So when we were to rewind, abit like when we hunt bears,
we'd go in and bait and one guywould get in the stand and then
they'd leave because they'reused to the bike being coming.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yes, 100%.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So I was like maybe they're used to that.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
They trained really well to that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, I was like well , maybe the moose are just used
to the Argos going, so they waituntil the Argos go by and then
they come out.
That's smart, mackenzie.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, great old, country boy hick, yeah, I said
that.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And then we get back to camp, probably like five
minutes left of legal shootingnight.
Yep, we hear a bang.
I'm like you're shitting me.
Anyways, Larry and them wereout hunting.
They were on their way back.
We'd already gone by with theArgo and they were coming with
theirs.
Yeah, and there's a cow therein one of them holes.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So you got that really.
Yeah, I was like, well, thatwas a good idea.
I just, yeah, it was done in aday earlier.
Yeah, it worked.
Uh, for someone else basically,yeah, okay.
So then they tagged out, yeah,yeah, so then it was.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
so then larry was hunting with uh, I think he's
got a .338 Lapua Lapua.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Lapua?
I think it's Lapua.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, it's a big caliber, it's a freaking hammer
yeah, so that was our second tolast day at dark when Larry
tagged out.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, so I think we were only at that flying camp
for about five days.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I think Now did you guys see a lot of moose.
So I think we were only at thatfly-in camp for about five days
.
I think Now did you guys see alot of moose.
Were you waiting for a bull?
Were you waiting for a cow?
It was either sex, right.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, I forget how they do have a certain way the
tags worked out.
Okay, I can't remember thelogistics of it, that's all
right.
I think I had like a cow, abull or something, but I was
gonna shoot like the first thingI could see yeah, I was a
trophy hunting.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're meat hunting, yeah.
So you guys didn't see a lot,because I know sometimes new.
I mean I've been tonewfoundland.
There is a lot of moose there,but I have heard of guys hunting
there and just they're notmoving in that particular area
at that time a year, right so wehad seen some a couple
different days, but they weretoo far away yeah and we never
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got a shot at them.
No, yes, but did you guys seeany of the kind of wildlife?
Did you see any caribou blackbear?
I think they had wolves, butI'm not positive.
Don't quote me on that yeah'mnot sure.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I think the other guys had seen a couple of
caribou.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Okay, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, yeah, but other than that.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's about it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Do they have partridge there, or ptarmigan?
I think it's partridge.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Ptarmigan, it is ptarmigan.
Maybe it is ptarmigan, yeah,yeah yeah.
And a lot of snowshoe hare.
Yeah, it's just the perfecthabitat for them.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I had never seen too many of them, but we
never had snow on the groundeither okay, so they wouldn't
really stick out right justlooking for moose I did see some
tarmageddon over there, though,did you, yeah, but you had a
good time though.
So then, you guys got back tocamp so there's what two out of
the four moose tags filled.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, oh yeah so then , uh, two out of the four moose
tags filled yeah, oh, yeah.
So then, uh, when was it?
Yeah, the last day dad got hislarry's gun and we split up.
Yeah, I'm gonna put some meaton the table yeah, somebody in
this family's got it yeah, so wesplit up and uh, they ended up
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shooting one.
They weren't very far away fromus.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Your dad got one.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Dad got a cow yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
The last day it was like 350 yards, I think, or 350
or 400.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Drilled it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, really.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, that's a big gun.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Because he never target practiced with it or
anything, because he wasn'tplanning on shooting anything.
Right yeah, and it's a bigcaliber and he never shot it
before.
So he's like, oh, there's amoose there.
So dad's like, well, I can'tfreehand that, so there's a big
rock there.
He gets down on his belly andhe's like I don't know where
this thing's shooting he goes.
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I put it right on her backbonethat way, if it yeah, the bullet
dropped, he'd get her anyways.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
he took her backbone right hit right where he was
aiming for.
So that gun was.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
There was much droppage in it no, she wasn't
dropping any, but anyways, hethat was.
I think that was the last fullday we were there.
So we heard the gunshot.
You and your guide heard it.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, heard the gunshot yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So we ended up just like, yeah, let's go see them
check it out.
I was pretty disgusted withmyself for missing and we'd been
hunting pretty hard.
Yeah, you guys a lot of walkingand scouting and yeah, yeah, I
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was tired.
So we went and, uh, did updad's moose and got it all taken
care of.
And then everybody got a moose,but me, but that's my own fault
.
They put one in front of me andI just never hit it?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, it happens.
I'm sure everyone made funnylots and I know that when you
came home we did, we definitelydid, and didn't help you feel
any better.
But in all fairness, it is abig animal.
You get shaken, the moose feverkicks in and you know just, it
does happen.
It definitely happens.
But you had a good adventure.
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I mean, that's what it's allabout too.
You had a lot of fun.
You'd never been.
I don't think you'd have beenout of your little area in
Havelock, New Brunswick, beforethat You'd never, been farther
than the 20-square-mile radiusAll right, let's not push it.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Been to Nova Scotia a couple times, but that's only a
couple hours away Through Skype.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Through my Zoom meetings.
No, but I mean you going overthere.
It is neat If you've never beenover there before.
It's a unique place to see.
It's nice.
A lot of friendly people there,oh yeah, the people are
excellent.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, yeah, they are.
The food was good.
It was an awesome trip, yep,first time in a helicopter,
everything.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Well, yeah, yeah, first time on a big boat like
that too, I imagine.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, I slept on the boat, though, really yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I can't.
I wasn't hanging out.
No, but yeah, just the wholetrip in itself.
It's the adventure.
It is hunting, not shooting.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Except for you did shoot twice and you missed no.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
But it is all about the adventure and stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It is all about the adventure and stuff, and you had
a lot of fun.
That was eight years ago andyou told that I think quite well
too, so the memories stuck withyou quite well.
So, obviously you had a goodenough time and all that, so
you'd recommend going back.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, I'm actually.
Hopefully in a couple of yearsI'll go back, I'll talk dad into
it and we'll go back.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And I'll try and redeem myself.
They'll have you both on thepodcast.
Get your dad's point of viewfrom how everything went down.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, I think now they have a new lodge like a
trophy lodge.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So I don't know if I had to get dad talked into doing
it, because you're not at thetrophy one, they don't have
ergos or anything.
You fly into the camp, then youwalk from the camp and you got
to backpack everything back ifyou shoot something.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
oh really okay, which should?
be fun, but I don't think I getto talk to that there's probably
a lot of people you'd have aharder time talking into it,
including yourself.
Yeah, you look in the mirrorlike we can do this, mckenzie.
Right, we can do it.
I don't know the guy lookingback at me second guessing it,
but no, it'd be cool to see it.
It's all about the adventure,you know, just making the
memories and the hunting, like Isaid, the animals.
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The bonus, it's the cherry ontop, mackenzie.
That's a great story.
I know you've got some more.
We'll get to those another day.
Thanks for coming on.
It's been a little bit in themaking, but you're home, you're
able to come out so.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I appreciate it Nice to be here, thanks for, I guess,
rowan, one little more story.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Absolutely so, my dad's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
All right, he's healthy looking.
He's a big man and I wassmaller than I am now at the
time of the hunt.
So, anyways, the guide that wehad was a young fella in his 20s
or whatever, and he was a bigboy.
So there's a picture, I'll sendit to you.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
We'll use that for the picture for the podcast
Helga.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, all right, but when you look at that, if you
didn't know that I was dad's kid.
You would think that the guidewas actually dad's kid and I was
the guide.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
You were just tagging along, yeah, the guide.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Looked exactly like my dad's son.
Is there any?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
your dad's like Mackenzie, actually something he
needs to tell you this is myfirst time in Newfoundland.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, I asked him that too when we were out there.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Really, yeah, is Steve the guy that's my brother?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, You'll see the picture.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Land of opportunity over there.
All right sounds good.
Yeah, yeah, all right Soundsgood.
Yeah, send that to me.
All right, all right, thanks,mackenzie, thanks.
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On the podcast this week we'regoing moose hunting.
We haven't had any moosehunting stories in a little bit,
so we are going to Newfoundland, the island of Newfoundland,
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and saying that, thinking aboutthe island there, newfoundland's
known for its fishing that'skind of how it was created is
people going there to fish?
They ended up bringing somemoose along later on and it's a
moose hunting haven, as we'regoing to hear about later.
And speaking about that, Ican't help but feel the need to
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Now, with the podcast this week,we're excited to introduce to
you Mackenzie Also.
This podcast, this episode isbeing recorded.
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If you guys do feel like youknow what are these happy people
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look like that are talking onhere?
Well, you can see.
If not, though, we reallyappreciate you guys listening in
.
So this week on the podcast wehave someone that we've been
trying to get on a few times nowMackenzie Brewer.
Mackenzie is a local here by me.
He's been cutting his teeth,hunting and farting around in
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the outdoor world for a littlewhile, and this week we are
going to talk to him about hismoose hunt in the province of
Newfoundland, mackenzie.
Welcome to the podcast.
Thanks for having me Anytime, sowe've been trying to make this
happen for a little bit.
You work out west in Alberta,saskatchewan.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Saskatchewan yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I asked him like Kenzie, are you home for the
holidays?
He's like, yep, sure am.
I'm like, well, let's get apodcast on and, you know, get it
going.
So you've been hunting for alittle while now.
Why don't you tell us aboutyour start in it?
And who are you?
Who's everyone listening to?
You know, paint us a picture.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
All right, I'm Mackenzie Brewer, I'm 25.
I've been hunting pretty muchsince I was probably five.
I always used to go out withDad when he was hunting and then
I kind of used to go by myselfa little bit.
My younger years, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I've been hunting Legally and illegally, but
that's okay, you know, it's thecountry and as long as you're
not hurting anybody.
No harm, no foul.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But yeah, said I grew up.
Yeah, you're five years youngerthan me and I grew up with your
cousin.
Then we'd always see you.
You know farting around, comealong hunting and all that and
shooting coons.
You did some trapping too.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I trapped for a few years in high school, but
then the market fell out of thefur so I got into it?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
What did you mainly target when you were doing the
trapping?
I did quite a few coons Okayyeah, what were you getting for
them at their peak?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I can't even remember .
I think the year I get into itfur prices were up, so you could
get like 50 bucks a raccoon.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You were getting that much.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, they did the year before I get into it.
Oh, and then I get into it andwe shipped her furs and we were
getting like 25.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Per coon.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's not too bad.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I wasn't.
I had a guy that was a trapper,so I'd catch them and skin them
and then he'd flash them andstretch them and all that stuff.
So I gave him half my fur check.
That was the deal.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh, okay, well, fair enough really.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I caught a bobcat that year and Buddy's like yeah,
it's probably worth like $250,$300.
Nice cat I'm like perfect and Isent it to the auction and I
got $24 for it and I had to giveBuddy half because he did all
the work and stuff on it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You're getting $25 for raccoon and you get that
much for a bobcat well, I thinkI had to double check that maybe
raccoons were less.
But once I sold the bobcat for$24 it really pissed me off, so
I got rid of it you weren'tgoing to get rich doing it, and
where we are too, you know we'renot uh somewhere down south or
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whatever where they don't getsnow and the pelts don't get as
thick.
I mean we have, uh, really goodpelts here, yeah, really good
quality, because it does getcold, fairly cold, yeah, um.
So yeah, that's low.
I just recently got into it wasa we got, uh, we got four
beaver, two muskrat, a mink andour otter, which is kind of cool
in a week, in less than a week,but anyways, I haven't flushed
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them out yet.
They're in the freezer.
Skin them, flushed them out.
So I guess that's a bit of aprocess.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I've been told yeah, yeah, you want to know what
you're doing yes, it's a lot ofwork, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
flushing them yeah, yeah, you get that draw knife
and you're working away at it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, catching them is like half the work.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
All right, because that's been a bit of work with
all the snow we have luggingthrough all that Then, once you
get back to the fur shed, it's alot more work.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's where the fun begins.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah.
So, mackenzie, you went on amoose hunt in Newfoundland.
For those that don't know,newfoundland is a province in
Canada.
It is surrounded by water.
From Nova Scotia, which is theclosest province to it on land,
it is about an eight-hour ferryride, give or take, depending on
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the weather, I remember if yougo on I've been through there
quite a few times trucking ifyou go on and they're chaining
down all of the trailers andeverything, you know, you're in
for a rough ride like why do youguys chain though, down?
They're like huh, it's a lot ofwind.
oh boy, I was seasick on thereonce on the ferry remember, it's
the little things in life thatyou take for granted, like when
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you're laying in your bed atnight at your house and your
bed's not moving.
You just, you don't, you don'teven think about that, you just
go to bed, you don't thinkanything of it.
I'll tell you, when you're on aboat and the thing's just going
up and down, up, and thenyou're just praying like stop
moving, stop moving, it's not.
I was like you know what?
I'm never going to look at mybed at home the same way again
it it's not moving, it's notrocking, and once you get
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seasick it does, because theboat's still going up and down,
up and down.
Yeah, I'm not a water guy, no,ocean guy, no, no, not an ocean
guy.
Don't have any sea legs.
No, I didn't have a sea gut bythe end of it.
So, yeah, tell us about thismoose hunt that you went on.
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So you said said, what you weresaying before is about what?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
eight years ago, yeah , it was the fall of 2016.
So eight years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Newfoundland is known for a lot, a lot of moose.
They've got moose, they've gotbear and they've got caribou for
their big game species.
They do not have any deer, no,or skunks or porcupines or
anything like that no, or skunks, or porcupines, or anything
like that.
No, all right, mackenzie.
So tell us how this hunt cameabout and how you got to go on
it, and just your mentalchecklist too, before leaving.
(08:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So I guess it was a grad gift for me from my great
uncle.
He called my dad and he saidhey, do you think mackenzie
would want to go to newfoundlandthis fall hunting?
And dad said yes.
My uncle said why aren't yougonna ask him?
And dad said nope, I don't needto he said that he'd rather me
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go instead.
Yeah, yeah, just asked him realquick but uh so anyways, fano's
going and we got the rifle allsighted in.
I borrowed a buddy's .300 WinMag.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So I got that sighted in, got all of our stuff ready
when we left.
We were planning on just mehaving a tag.
Well, there was four of us thatwent.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Four people with tags .
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, there was four of us that went.
We were planning on havingthree tags.
Okay, so it would be my greatuncle and my dad's cousin and my
dad and me.
So we were planning on dad nothaving a tag, just kind of going
for the trip.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But then when we got there, he ended up getting a tag
.
Oh surprise, but we only hadone gun between the two of us.
So, dad's well, you shoot yourmoves first and then, if we got
time, then I'll shoot one.
Okay, all right but yeah, itwas fun, we went over uh, so how
did you?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
what outfitter did you use?
How did you go about findingthat outfit?
Your uncle planned that partout.
Yeah, he had that all yeah,orchestrated lined up.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
We went to, uh, adventure.
Yeah, that's the name of it,right?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So we went, we got to the main lodge after our boat
ride and stuff and we spent thekind of got settled into the
main lodge and spent a nightthere.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So what area is the main lodge?
So there's a business ownerfrom our area that owns
Adventure Quest Outfitters,murray Crookshank.
The main lodge is that inStephenville, newfoundland.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I was 16.
I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, I don't even remember the exact area.
I think it's near there, butyeah, so you guys got to the
main lodge.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yep, so we spent a night there, and then the next
afternoon we got on a helicopter.
Yep, that'd be cool they flewus to the camp we were hunting
out.
Oh, that was really cool.
I don't like turbulence in ahelicopter, though yeah it's way
worse than a plane like.
I fly it west for work all thetime, but when you're in a
helicopter and you hitturbulence, it just drops
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straight down really like a lotlike, sometimes like six feet
did you really?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
yeah, oh, I didn't know that.
Did the pilot say anything?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
He's like oh, you might have some turbulence.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh you guys might want to put your head between
your legs and kiss your butt.
Goodbye.
There's no parachute.
I'd probably be a terriblepilot, cause I I would screw
with people a little bit onpurpose.
Yes, just just get a littlereaction Like I'm just kidding
with you guys.
I'm like oh no, but you knowit's not funny.
But you try to make a joke outof it.
(11:32):
But he had everything undercontrol, so you weren't worried.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, no, it's good.
So actually, how it worked,when we flew out, it was kind of
a bad weather anyways.
Like flew out, it was kind of abad weather anyways, like
really windy and stuff.
Yeah, they had a lot ofturbulence.
Yeah, fair bet, and we actuallyended up.
I forget how we broke it up.
You had to make a few differenttrips with luggage and getting
people oh, because they got tohave so much weight.
(11:57):
Yeah, in there or they're onlyallowed to have so much, so much
weight.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah and that reminds me of uh, you guys run a moose,
since these guys they run anelk hunt, and uh, these guys had
all tagged out on their elk andthey, they got the elk loaded
up and everything.
There's four guys and thepilots like that that's way too
much weight, I can't take allfour of you and all these elk.
The guys like come on the pilot, last year, let us do it and
stuff right.
Yeah, so he's like okay, allright, you guys can, you know,
(12:23):
bring everything.
So they go up, sure enough,come down, crash and then uh
yeah.
And then one of the hunters likedo you know where we are?
And then the other one's likeyeah, yeah, he said I think this
is the same spot that wecrashed last year.
All right, so anyways, back toyour moose hunt.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So yeah when we flew in on the helicopter.
I can't remember who all wasthere, but two of us were at the
camp, at the lodge that we weregoing to hunt out of, and they
didn't know if the weather keptgetting worse.
They didn't know if they weregoing to fly the other people
out.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh, the other hunters from your party.
Yeah, oh did you have the gun,or did your dad and were you
guys together?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, Uh, we split it up between gear.
I think there's.
I went with Amanda.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I think in the helicopter.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So there's two of us that went with some gear.
We kind of broke it up a littlebit, just in case the
helicopter did crash and didn'tkill everybody in the family.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So you were like well , I've got the gun and your
dad's looking.
He's like, oh, I've got aMcKenzie shaving kit.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, Pretty much Okay.
Anyways, we made it all in andAmanda, my dad's cousin.
She was actually pregnant atthe time.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I can't remember Going on a moose hunt.
Yeah, sorry, good for her.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's tough.
I think she was like four orsix months pregnant.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I wouldn't be able to go if I had a cold.
She was pregnant, growing humanshe went good for her.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
She got her bull the first day.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I can't say we're getting to that, I gotta, don't,
we gotta lead up to it.
Yes, well, all right, so youguys got.
I don't want to scold you onhere, but you know, um, so you
guys got to the king, you guysgot to the remote lodge.
Was that the only way to getthere was fly in, fly out?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
well, yeah, you can get there on an ergo, but it's
like a day and a half trip.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I was going to say it must take a while.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, yeah, okay so like the guides at the beginning
of the season, took the ergosin but it's with like a bunch of
food and stuff, but it's likequite a trip.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's a drive.
Yeah, wow, so it's remote whereyou guys are hunting.
Yeah, that's good, though Imean you want, yeah, I think it
was at least like 20 minutes inthe helicopter, yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's a little cover, alot of ground, you can, yeah,
yeah, there's no stop signs inthe air, no playing, I guess.
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But, um, yeah, okay.
So you guys got into yourremote camp the weather subsided
, I'm guessing so that you guyscould bring everyone else in the
gear.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, we all okay we all ended up making it it wasn't
looking good there for probablyhalf an hour or so, and then we
made it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Really.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, he's like.
Actually I think the last groupwas right there hovering over
the pond because the camp orthat lodge or whatever was right
on the edge of a.
They call it Cormac Lake.
It's about one kilometer wideby three kilometers long.
Oh, so it's a big lake.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So he put the helicopter like right on the
beach there right by the camp.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I got in like 20 feet away from where I was going to
land.
I didn't know if I dared landit, but I got her down and they
get out.
So I was like that would suck,going in the helicopter like 20
feet from where you're gonnaland and then be like nope,
sorry, see you later yeah, likewow, it all worked out we all
made it there good.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So you guys were like high fiving and hugging like
haven't even started hunting yet.
We barely made it here, yeah,um, so you guys got settled in.
What was, uh, I mean, what wasthe remote camp like?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
it was really nice.
Yeah, yep, they had, uh, therewas a few different bedrooms, I
guess, in it and they had likethe main one with the hunters,
and then it's got the kitchen init.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And then just off the kitchen there's another bedroom
for the cook, because she'd begetting up at like three in the
morning to start.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
So you guys, even at the remote camp, you guys still
had a cook.
Yeah, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
A cook and there was three guides there, so I think
one guide stayed in the maincamp with us and then there was
a separate camp for the othertwo guys.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Okay, nice, and then I'm guessing no other hunters
around, no Very remote area youdon't see anybody else.
No, no, okay, so you guys gotall settled in.
You wake up the first morning,and then what's the plan?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Are you going with your dad?
You and your dad and the guide.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well, I'll have it chuck out.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
All right, shake it in for us.
My uncle.
He had already been out there afew different times so he knew
one of the guides.
So he got him because they kneweach other and wanted to run
together, and then the other twoguides, I guess were coming
with me and dad.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
So we kind of just went on an Argo ride to check
out the area and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I think Amanda and her guide and Larry, my
uncle or my dad's uncle, theywent in the boat and there was a
little island, probably likethe size of your house, yeah, I
guess, just off the water, like40 yards.
So he brought the boat in andgot her set up on the island and
(17:27):
then brought the boat, saidgood luck, yeah Well, he brought
the boat, I think, and hid upon the island and then, uh,
brought the boat, said good luck, yeah well, they brought the
boat, I think, and hit it behindthe island and then he called
from the island yep and they gota bull right out to shore and
she shot it first it's like,within the first, like within
the first hour of leaving thecamp to go hunting, gets dropped
off an island drops a bull.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, wow, that's quick, that's pretty good that's
really good.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was nice and by okay, that's pretty
cool.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Um, what, uh, what was she?
Do you know what she wasshooting for?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
a gun I think it was a 30 out six.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Okay, yeah, that'll do it yeah, so it's gonna wonder
that too.
What time of year were you guyshunting them?
And so if he was calling, I'mguessing they were rutting yeah,
I'm.
Yeah, I meant to look this upso I didn't sound like an idiot
on the podcast, but I think itwas in october sometime, okay
yeah, so that'd be a later right, because I mean, they're
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running here when we're huntingthem in new brunswick and that's
well, that's the end of sept, Iguess.
So yeah, so she got hers Prettygood-sized bull.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, it was a four or a six-pointer, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, I've got a picture of it here.
It was October 14th.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Okay, yeah, so they were calling yeah and everything
, yeah.
So then she got that, broughtit back to camp and you guys
were like all right, pressure'son, you know, let's make it
happen.
Newfoundland does have a lot, alot of moose.
I mean, the whole uh islandbasically is bog, and if it's
not bog, it's rocks, you knowlike so, um, all right.
So you guys got back.
(19:03):
Did you guys see anything?
Did you see any wildlife?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
not, we didn't not that first day.
So then we hunted for the nextcouple of days I guess it was me
and dad and our two guides, andthen my uncle went with his
guide.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So when you, they kind of come up with a plan in
the morning where everyone washunting so you weren't screwing
each other up right you, youguys weren't calling back and
forth, like calling like I hearthe bulls, he's answering and
you guys are like I got a bullcoming at us.
Yeah, Bull, sounds like he's inan ergo.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, but anyways, we went out and hunted
for a couple days, never seenanything.
And then, how did that work?
I missed a bull.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
All right, let's back up a bit and unpack this one
out of the suitcase and it'sokay.
People miss, hunters miss.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But you missed on a hunting.
You're here to tell about it.
Once in a lifetime trip.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'm going to tell you how I screwed it up.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Sure, walk me through it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Let's go down memory lane for you, shall we?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, we'd gone in the boat across the lake, so it
was like a kilometer wide.
We went to the other side of it, yeah, and we get up into the
woods and we were calling and wehad moose all around us, but we
couldn't get anything to comeout into an opening enough that
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we could actually get a shot.
So we decided to change up theplan a little bit and we get
back into the boat and when wewere, we were going to go to the
other end of the lake yeah sowe started going in the boat and
the guide's like holy fuck,that's a moose up there on the
side hill.
I've never even seen one beforewe could it.
It was a kilometer away, aren'tyou a guide.
Yeah, so we're in the boat.
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So he's like I'm going to see ifI can get close enough to it.
So we get in fairly close withthe boat and then we hopped out
of the boat and ran aboutprobably 50 yards just so we
could get in the opening and seeit.
So the guide made a couple ofcalls and to stopped it and it's
probably like a 350 yard shot.
(21:13):
Yeah, but I have a really Iused to have a really bad habit
of like tilting up.
Okay, I'd always shoot overstuff.
You when you shoot, you'd likealways A mixture of that, and
I'd always aim high.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like I don't know why .
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Any particular reason .
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, they're like I'm used to shooting deer and
they're a little bit smallertarget.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And the gun was sighted right in at 200 yards
and he's like, oh, it's 350.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So I tilted, falling a meter above his head.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, pretty much yeah, and right behind him when
I took my first shot, there wasthis rock and it was like well,
it was a boulder.
It was probably like 10 feet by8 feet high.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, it sounds like Newfoundland.
It's rocks, boulders and bog.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, so I shot and you could see the bullet ping
off of this rock over his back.
Really, yeah, so anyways, thenit.
I think.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I shot at it.
In all fairness, you'reprobably a little nervous too.
Yeah, out of a moose, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And it was a nice bull too, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
No, that's understandable.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I shot over its back and missed, and then I shot
again, and I shot over it again.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Did the bull just bolt or was he like?
How was that?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The first shot he ran about 10 feet, oh, and then he
stopped and looked at us again,and then I tried to give him
another one, but I was shakingso bad.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
No, that's understandable.
I remember when I got a loose Igot better off with like a
slingshot.
Well.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Had a better chance of getting him, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
No, that can happen.
I remember when my uncle and Igot our loose and after I was
able to hold it together at thetime, but afterwards I was
shaking so bad I was trying toreload the gun again in case we
needed to, because we couldn'ttell.
It looked like it went down,but we weren't positive.
I was like you know, it's areal thing, you're just shaking
the moose fever, buck fever, youknow.
So then what did the guide say?
Like who brought this idiot?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
No, he's like that's all right it happens all the
time.
He's like ah, so you give me afew tips on shooting.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He did.
Okay, well, that's a good guide.
That's helpful, right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
But the gun I was using wasn't mine, so it was a
left-handed bolt.
Oh, that's different, so ittook me longer to reload it.
Yeah, so I ended up switchingguns with Amanda.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Because she didn't need hers.
Yeah, she was already taggedout.
She's done.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, so I got her 30 at six and then, uh, I think it
was the next day kind of, whereyou, we, went out in the Argos.
When you leave the camp you goin like a bit of a ravine and
follow it and then the trailsthat they had wide.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, so we uh, but the guy gave you a couple tips
on shooting.
He was cool about it.
Yeah, he was like no big dealyeah he wasn't an asshole or
anything.
That's good All right, heshouldn't be.
I was just seeing, I don't know, some people have tempers.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
No, he was all.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
They were good about it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I mean regardless, but yes, you switch
guns up yeah, you feel confidentwith that, that way you you can
reload, quicker you can reloadquicker if you miss another one
sure yep, but anyways uh, we'vegone out hunting for the day and
on the way back, just beforeyou get to the camp where we
were staying under the lodge,there were some wet holes there
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and I me and dad were in the air, going like.
I think maybe tomorrow, tomorrownight, we'll leave a little bit
earlier, like come back fromhunting earlier, and I said
because we're used to huntingbears.
So when we were to rewind, abit like when we hunt bears,
we'd go in and bait and one guywould get in the stand and then
they'd leave because they'reused to the bike being coming.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yes, 100%.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So I was like maybe they're used to that.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
They trained really well to that.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, I was like well , maybe the moose are just used
to the Argos going, so they waituntil the Argos go by and then
they come out.
That's smart, mackenzie.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, great old, country boy hick, yeah, I said
that.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And then we get back to camp, probably like five
minutes left of legal shootingnight.
Yep, we hear a bang.
I'm like you're shitting me.
Anyways, Larry and them wereout hunting.
They were on their way back.
We'd already gone by with theArgo and they were coming with
theirs.
Yeah, and there's a cow therein one of them holes.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So you got that really.
Yeah, I was like, well, thatwas a good idea.
I just, yeah, it was done in aday earlier.
Yeah, it worked.
Uh, for someone else basically,yeah, okay.
So then they tagged out, yeah,yeah, so then it was.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
so then larry was hunting with uh, I think he's
got a .338 Lapua Lapua.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Lapua?
I think it's Lapua.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, it's a big caliber, it's a freaking hammer
yeah, so that was our second tolast day at dark when Larry
tagged out.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, so I think we were only at that flying camp
for about five days.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I think Now did you guys see a lot of moose.
So I think we were only at thatfly-in camp for about five days
.
I think Now did you guys see alot of moose.
Were you waiting for a bull?
Were you waiting for a cow?
It was either sex, right.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, I forget how they do have a certain way the
tags worked out.
Okay, I can't remember thelogistics of it, that's all
right.
I think I had like a cow, abull or something, but I was
gonna shoot like the first thingI could see yeah, I was a
trophy hunting.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're meat hunting, yeah.
So you guys didn't see a lot,because I know sometimes new.
I mean I've been tonewfoundland.
There is a lot of moose there,but I have heard of guys hunting
there and just they're notmoving in that particular area
at that time a year, right so wehad seen some a couple
different days, but they weretoo far away yeah and we never
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got a shot at them.
No, yes, but did you guys seeany of the kind of wildlife?
Did you see any caribou blackbear?
I think they had wolves, butI'm not positive.
Don't quote me on that yeah'mnot sure.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I think the other guys had seen a couple of
caribou.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Okay, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, yeah, but other than that.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's about it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Do they have partridge there, or ptarmigan?
I think it's partridge.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Ptarmigan, it is ptarmigan.
Maybe it is ptarmigan, yeah,yeah yeah.
And a lot of snowshoe hare.
Yeah, it's just the perfecthabitat for them.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I had never seen too many of them, but we
never had snow on the groundeither okay, so they wouldn't
really stick out right justlooking for moose I did see some
tarmageddon over there, though,did you, yeah, but you had a
good time though.
So then, you guys got back tocamp so there's what two out of
the four moose tags filled.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, oh yeah so then , uh, two out of the four moose
tags filled yeah, oh, yeah.
So then, uh, when was it?
Yeah, the last day dad got hislarry's gun and we split up.
Yeah, I'm gonna put some meaton the table yeah, somebody in
this family's got it yeah, so wesplit up and uh, they ended up
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shooting one.
They weren't very far away fromus.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Your dad got one.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Dad got a cow yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
The last day it was like 350 yards, I think, or 350
or 400.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Drilled it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, really.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, that's a big gun.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Because he never target practiced with it or
anything, because he wasn'tplanning on shooting anything.
Right yeah, and it's a bigcaliber and he never shot it
before.
So he's like, oh, there's amoose there.
So dad's like, well, I can'tfreehand that, so there's a big
rock there.
He gets down on his belly andhe's like I don't know where
this thing's shooting he goes.
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I put it right on her backbonethat way, if it yeah, the bullet
dropped, he'd get her anyways.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
he took her backbone right hit right where he was
aiming for.
So that gun was.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
There was much droppage in it no, she wasn't
dropping any, but anyways, hethat was.
I think that was the last fullday we were there.
So we heard the gunshot.
You and your guide heard it.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, heard the gunshot yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So we ended up just like, yeah, let's go see them
check it out.
I was pretty disgusted withmyself for missing and we'd been
hunting pretty hard.
Yeah, you guys a lot of walkingand scouting and yeah, yeah, I
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was tired.
So we went and, uh, did updad's moose and got it all taken
care of.
And then everybody got a moose,but me, but that's my own fault
.
They put one in front of me andI just never hit it?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, it happens.
I'm sure everyone made funnylots and I know that when you
came home we did, we definitelydid, and didn't help you feel
any better.
But in all fairness, it is abig animal.
You get shaken, the moose feverkicks in and you know just, it
does happen.
It definitely happens.
But you had a good adventure.
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I mean, that's what it's allabout too.
You had a lot of fun.
You'd never been.
I don't think you'd have beenout of your little area in
Havelock, New Brunswick, beforethat You'd never, been farther
than the 20-square-mile radiusAll right, let's not push it.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Been to Nova Scotia a couple times, but that's only a
couple hours away Through Skype.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Through my Zoom meetings.
No, but I mean you going overthere.
It is neat If you've never beenover there before.
It's a unique place to see.
It's nice.
A lot of friendly people there,oh yeah, the people are
excellent.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, yeah, they are.
The food was good.
It was an awesome trip, yep,first time in a helicopter,
everything.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Well, yeah, yeah, first time on a big boat like
that too, I imagine.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, I slept on the boat, though, really yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I can't.
I wasn't hanging out.
No, but yeah, just the wholetrip in itself.
It's the adventure.
It is hunting, not shooting.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Except for you did shoot twice and you missed no.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
But it is all about the adventure and stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It is all about the adventure and stuff, and you had
a lot of fun.
That was eight years ago andyou told that I think quite well
too, so the memories stuck withyou quite well.
So, obviously you had a goodenough time and all that, so
you'd recommend going back.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, I'm actually.
Hopefully in a couple of yearsI'll go back, I'll talk dad into
it and we'll go back.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And I'll try and redeem myself.
They'll have you both on thepodcast.
Get your dad's point of viewfrom how everything went down.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, I think now they have a new lodge like a
trophy lodge.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So I don't know if I had to get dad talked into doing
it, because you're not at thetrophy one, they don't have
ergos or anything.
You fly into the camp, then youwalk from the camp and you got
to backpack everything back ifyou shoot something.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
oh really okay, which should?
be fun, but I don't think I getto talk to that there's probably
a lot of people you'd have aharder time talking into it,
including yourself.
Yeah, you look in the mirrorlike we can do this, mckenzie.
Right, we can do it.
I don't know the guy lookingback at me second guessing it,
but no, it'd be cool to see it.
It's all about the adventure,you know, just making the
memories and the hunting, like Isaid, the animals.
(32:16):
The bonus, it's the cherry ontop, mackenzie.
That's a great story.
I know you've got some more.
We'll get to those another day.
Thanks for coming on.
It's been a little bit in themaking, but you're home, you're
able to come out so.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I appreciate it Nice to be here, thanks for, I guess,
rowan, one little more story.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Absolutely so, my dad's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
All right, he's healthy looking.
He's a big man and I wassmaller than I am now at the
time of the hunt.
So, anyways, the guide that wehad was a young fella in his 20s
or whatever, and he was a bigboy.
So there's a picture, I'll sendit to you.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
We'll use that for the picture for the podcast
Helga.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, all right, but when you look at that, if you
didn't know that I was dad's kid.
You would think that the guidewas actually dad's kid and I was
the guide.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
You were just tagging along, yeah, the guide.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Looked exactly like my dad's son.
Is there any?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
your dad's like Mackenzie, actually something he
needs to tell you this is myfirst time in Newfoundland.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, I asked him that too when we were out there.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Really, yeah, is Steve the guy that's my brother?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, You'll see the picture.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Land of opportunity over there.
All right sounds good.
Yeah, yeah, all right Soundsgood.
Yeah, send that to me.
All right, all right, thanks,mackenzie, thanks.
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