October 27, 2025 • 33 mins
Real Housewives of Potomac
(Season 10, Episode 4)
The women head to Preakness for a day of betting, shade, and social jockeying. Jassi’s arrival stirs things up when she clashes with Keiarna, while Angel struggles to find her footing within the group. The trip to Nevis kicks off, but the island vibes can’t quite cool the tension. Gizelle takes issue with Stacey, Wendy and Angel can’t get on the same page, and things get awkward when Gizelle calls out Angel for her social media filters. Stacey presses Gizelle about her rumored boyfriend, and Ashley jumps in to defend her friend—because in Potomac, no confrontation ever stays one-on-one for long.
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Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched episode of the
Renal Housewives of Potomac. Yes, and Nevis, Nevis.
Yes, Nevis. Which is somewhere with a B.
It's either in a Bermuda or Barbados or Bahamas or Brooklyn
or Baltimore or. It's adjacent to Saint Kitts,
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yes, and you have to take a plane, a train, a boat,
automobile. Ride the back of a mermaid, as
long as you don't have camouflage with you.
No, then you're not allowed in the country.
Even I don't care if it's Prada.Yeah, even Prada makes mistakes.
Yeah, that's an interesting law.I'd, you know, interested.
Should Google that later. I don't.
Feel like it's something to do with, you know, you don't want
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to look like your military and Idon't know.
Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right.
We started off at the Preakness,not the freakness or whatever.
I thought, I don't know what they were saying, but tense.
It was very pretentious. Yes.
First Lady of Maryland was like,I'm not going to be on camera.
I don't know these hoes. Yeah.
(01:05):
A lot of hoes. The people call people hoes in
this episode. There, There's a lot in this
episode, and if I can just kind of set the tone for what I
thought about this episode and what I'm feeling about this
season so far, I would rather watch Miami.
Yeah, I'd rather go back and watch and see what the fuss
about Dallas was about Dallas oreven Real Housewives of DC.
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I have 0 interest in watching these women play telephone all
season and talk about what so and so said about so and so last
week about such and such and having beef and you came at me
wrong with the wrong tone. Da da da da da.
I do not care at all. It's petty, but it's like,
here's the thing, do you want petty drama or do you want like
really dark, you know, I homophobic drama.
(01:52):
I don't want I. It all feels like a witch hunt
to me, this whole thing. I've seen Giselle do this
before. It's hazing.
I I, I don't want to see it. Yeah.
And honestly, like, I'd give it to you because.
And I'm nowhere jumping away ahead on it, but I'll give it to
you that like you're, you're sensing something not right with
Angel and the kind of the the stuff that she's saying.
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And they're like when she was saying, oh, no one said hi to me
at the airport. And then they cut and show
scenes of her and everyone pretty much saying hello to her.
So she's spinning a different narrative, perhaps.
But right now I feel so bad for Angel.
Yeah. I just, you know, and they're
making it a big deal that like, oh, we just don't want to be the
Angel in Kiarna show. And it's like, well, why the
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hell not? It's the Ashley Giselle show
over there. And then did they say that?
Yeah, at one point they're like,you know, we don't, you know,
we're just worried that, you know, we got little factions and
it's, it's just. Oh, what?
Oh, what did I say? And.
Then what Giselle's doing to Stacy.
No, it's like you can be queen bee without having to talk down
to people or push them down. Yeah, like, we get it, Giselle,
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you're the longest running. Well, with Ashley, your little
counterpart, you're the Ogs and you're, you know, you want to be
queen Bee and it's you think it's the Giselle show and you
can like dictate things, but it is it's just it's unreasonably
shady to like treat somebody like, I don't know who this is.
I don't know this Stacy because she's not playing your game.
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It goes back to like two or three episodes ago where like
Stacy's not playing the game, but Gill wants her to and she's
annoyed by it. So she's going to, like, do
these little, like, messy littledumb details like, you know, the
Blake notes. It's symbolic.
No shit. Yeah.
Yeah. I get symbolism.
I don't understand why you're doing it.
Right. And it's like the the amount of
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effort it took to not do that. To pay to so everyone would draw
attention to it. So like everyone's gonna know
now I don't like you. Message received like 2 episodes
ago. Yeah, it's like, it's like the
amount of rent that you're paying.
Stacy in your head, yeah, it's you and Ashley are just like,
it's like the Stacy takedown season for no reason.
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And the thing in no word, she did the whole thing.
This is not the same person I saw last season.
She did the exact same thing to.Wendy, just.
Cause Wendy got her boobs done and came out her second season a
little more confident than she was the first season.
As though I'm sure if we go watch Giselle season 1 and
compare her to season 2, she's the same woman at all.
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I mean, she's still the the same, Yeah, Giselle, but like,
she's glowed up too. Yeah, the wigs got better.
Well, sometimes, you know, it's just the the makeup got better.
It's just what it just happens. You know, housewives evolve and
like, it's a lot of attention ispaid to the visuals.
So I. Don't, especially if you see
yourself first season and go, oh, there's things that maybe I
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don't like or I prefer. I look different.
Why did I wear that outfit? Like, why did I have that
makeup? Yeah.
I'm just I'm so I just don't know that I can do the whole
season if it continues to be this whole finger pointing you
said. It's so nitpicky and I'm trying
not to be negative about the show, but it I it's just
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unbearable right now. Like I want some.
It's also because they're talking about a lot of things
that either happened off camera,which we know is always the
frustration, or in a flashback that we have not yet seen.
And so it's like, if they're going to make the entire drama
so far be about things that someone said, how about you find
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a way, editors, to put it in thenatural course of the show, Even
going back in this episode to Kierna asking Angel, do you like
that woman? Do you like that woman referring
to Wendy? Yeah, we got to see that.
I'd prefer that the all the drama and the beefs come through
stuff like that because at leastwe got to see it happen when it
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was happening. Right.
But then the whole reason they bring that up is that, well, you
and Angel and Kierna clearly hada conversation off camera about
Wendy, and we want to know what that's about.
And the whole thing with Jazzy, like that conversation, that's
what she had with Kierna about Wendy and don't care.
You're right. It's a lot of it's off camera
and it's, it's, it's confusing because I'm not seeing it play
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out like because they're plotting behind off camera or
like they're having side conversations and it's just, you
know, you got to like, just saveit for what are we dealing with
right now, right? Why don't you like me right now,
Not six months ago? Or six weeks ago or yeah, since
we picked up cameras this season.
What have I, you know? What's the issue?
Yeah, I now I will say that I doenjoy you can see Wendy switch
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gears between like talking aboutthe whole Angel thing and then
like, oh, Speaking of which, I noticed Giselle that Stacy
doesn't have. A bathrobe that was a good
pivot. It was almost as though like,
well, you know, if you know, I'mnot done moving story yet.
Before before we move off of me,let's move on to someone else.
Before I move on to my warm octopus salad.
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Ohh God geez. Yeah, I don't think I need a
warm octopus. I.
Haven't warm anything now, but let's start from the beginning.
OK. Yes, Preakness.
Preakness, obviously there wasn't much, you know, like it
was friction between Stacy and Kiarna.
Boring. You know, they get to the the
racetrack, blah blah blah, you know others stuff.
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Oh, Jazzy showed up. There was a weird whole WAG
thing and like my husband's been.
I was like what? I don't think that Angel met
anything by my husband's. It's yeah, especially I feel
like the tone that she had was like, Oh yeah, what's your,
what's your, your, your fiance Do OK, Did oh, mine's, you know,
been a starter for 10 years. Did it And yeah, maybe there's a
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hint or a bit of shade to it, but it's also it seemed to me
that it was more of like we're sisters here, you know, like
we're. There's something in common,
yeah. And this what we have in common
and this is how I deal with it. What yours.
Cool, Good. No, I'm.
Clarifying, you know, like who my husband is and whatever it
wasn't like meant to be and yours is so much smaller and
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he's a bench warmer. The fact that like, the producer
in her confessional had to like say that.
So are you saying, you know, shetried to connect the dots and
and then Angel did get like a little shady?
Yeah. But I mean, it's also something
that I'm sure that if you as an NFL player, if you're a starter,
it's something that is probably something you brag about.
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It's not something that I think you, well, you probably do to,
you know, show some status, but it's not like it's it's it's an
accomplishment, you know, it's something you would be proud of
that I've been a starter for 10 years, you know, And so it's
just, again, it's one of these things, just because someone is
being congratulated over here doesn't take away from anything
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over there. I yeah, I don't think that Angel
was saying, well, your fiance isnothing because he's just a
bench warmer because she. Didn't.
And yeah, I just. So yeah, it was just a little
bit back and forth like that, and then Jazzy and Kiarna got
into it and which seemed out of nowhere.
And I'm engaged and you're not. And there's just like I.
(09:03):
Don't know. So see, that's the sort of that
shade I can get behind. The whole like you're living in
a little condo that's good shade, yeah.
Like that's the sort of thing where, you know, if you're going
to be coming, like it, it just, it's very direct.
You're, you know, instead of this kind of under the surface,
I'm coming at you and I'm tryingto like maneuver.
It's just like Jazzy's coming one straight at you and I really
(09:24):
like that. I would prefer that.
Yes, that's a better, it's more interesting, I agree.
Yes. So did anything else happen in?
Pregnancy. There was some a couple other
things I don't really. I never did her.
Basically it was like Karen and Wendy and then kind of Wendy and
Angel. And then so Jazzy showed up and,
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like, shifted the whole energy. She was doing a lot, you know,
But I liked her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I will have to say that like there is definitely something I.
Tia and and Ashley, what about when Tia said it's tongue in
cheek and like what is that like?
Kiarna was like what? No, it wasn't Karenna.
What was Ashley? What is tongue in cheek?
And I had to, like, explain it to her and she's like, catch up.
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Yeah. I wish you'd like pursued that
energy like you're lame. Yeah.
Yeah. But British?
Right, right, right. I'm lame.
Also, who's never heard of tongue in cheek?
It's a common term. So I mean, I, I do think that
Tia didn't define it well because I think tongue in cheek
is, I was just throwing a littlebit of shade your way.
I was just being a little messy as, you know, poking fun.
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You know that's what tongue in cheek is.
It's not necessarily shadiness, it's just the more like you
know, it's more it's. Just poking fun.
It's like. It's poking fun, yeah.
Yeah, but like in a really lighthearted way I always feel.
Yeah, you know, like do you dirty, right.
And it actually comes from a dirty I'm going to do dirty
plays. So she'll just jump to.
That just everyone, everyone trying to find a problem with
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everyone else. And that's I think that's where
ultimately. There's no real sisterhood here.
I don't, I don't. I'm not looking for kumbaya.
I don't need them. I don't need Sutton to show up
and tie their hands with a ribbon and and do a whole
sisterhood. Ceremony.
Not a lot of the time. The ribbon.
I don't, I don't need that. But what I don't, I don't know.
It just doesn't seem welcoming at all.
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Like, why would anyone want to be on this show, period?
Because you're going to get on the show and all you're going to
do like. Is defend your.
First off, I shouldn't have to prove myself to Giselle Brian
like. Thank you.
No, I shouldn't have prove myself to anyone else on that
show. You know why?
Because the fucking producers gave me a contract and that's
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why I'm on the show. Exactly.
And I would really, really, really want Angel or Tia to be
like, you know what? That's the problem though, is
that when they're filming, I probably at this time they don't
know for sure, right what their role is.
Yes, so they can't think at the reunion.
She should say I do. I was.
I proved myself to producers andthe casting.
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You are not neither of those things.
Those are not your roles. So I don't have to.
Kiss your ass. And give you an essay about who
who Angel in. Or who Who Stacey is.
Yeah, I shouldn't have to spell it out for you.
And like, no, I might. Have Stacey like they brought me
back for another season. How you like me now?
Yeah, like, and then she did kind of say that towards she's
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like, I'm here. Like she was kind of saying, I'm
here on this trip. You know, yeah, like, you can't,
You can leave my name off and give me a blank card, but I'm
still going to be here. Yeah.
You still had to contractually invite me as a contract wife.
Yeah. So.
I do wonder, I do wonder if Giselle understands how she
comes off. Yeah, she doesn't care.
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She doesn't care really. Sounds really smart.
The idea that she put she put Tia into the nanny's quarters,
it's just like what I don't. Think she really saw that as
shade. I think she was like being like
tongue in cheek with whole Brit thing, but it was just it was
dopey. Her delivery is dopey.
She's not as good with her wordsas she thinks she is and not as,
like, sly and clever. And I I yeah, yeah, I suppose,
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like, she's not Kenya. No, like Kenya can like, serve
it, flip it, twerk it, twerk it.Slip it and reverse.
It, yes, Slip it, flip it, rub it down, you know, in a way that
Giselle never could. Right.
Right. And it's just, it's just, yeah,
yeah. So they get to the airport.
At 4:00 AM. Wouldn't be me.
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Well, you'd be there at 3:00 AM for a 5:00 AM flight.
You would be. Yeah, that's like you don't even
go to bed and then you like, that's why there's so sleepy on
the plane. They did have the obligatory
packing scene, but it was such aweak sort of thing 'cause it was
Angel and then one other person,Ashley like.
Get her stylus. Yeah, her friend Corey Who?
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Chose that outfit that she was wearing.
But I like how like, oh, we're just to give you a taste of the
packing and then off to the airport.
But yeah, I, I thought it was, it was nice.
It was cool. They make this big whoop to do
about Jazzy being an economy. It's like, okay.
We're all going in the same place.
It's a it's a little plane, yeah.
And then it's I thought it was weird or like, oh, it's it's
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your bridal party thing, right? And it's Wendy's boy boyfriend
birthday. And it's like, OK, yeah, we're
just we're going on a girls trip, logging away, right?
It's just, it's whatever. But I do like that Wendy every
year gets to, while filming, talk about it's her birthday
incessantly. And yeah, like, OK, we get it,
Wendy, it's your birthday. You have.
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To turn another year older is Lord.
Might be her last birthday on the show.
Oh. Oh, Wendy.
Yeah, yeah. Basically it was like they, oh,
Angel, they set the intention. Angel set the intention that she
wanted to get to know everybody better and you know, and how
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they get to know her. And then it was, oh, then that
was when, no, there's on the boat.
There's so many places. They were.
I know they kept going to placesand sitting down and drinking
champagne. So I'm like, wait, was that on
the boat? Oh.
No customs and the lounge. Yeah, it could have been.
It doesn't matter. Brought up the whole Kionna
didn't watch or angels didn't want you to come, just that was
really just coming hard. For an Angel and I right, I
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don't understand why, because I would agree with Angel did not
say she didn't want specificallysay didn't want Kiarna to come.
I think there was conversation and I think Jezelle says I'm
like, oh, should I invite so andso?
And then that's when she said oh, just invite Cherise instead
because it was like I know Cherise.
I don't think there's anything she meant by it.
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I don't think, yeah, she's goinghard.
Like I don't want to go. She's going or like do an invite
that jazzy with her bench warmerboyfriend, right?
Right. Yeah.
And so again, it's like I just said something really, really, I
don't know, just shows how mean spirited this Giselle could be
that she just makes all and I know it's her job right now and
she gets paid like, you know. Yeah, but like, I mean, is she
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trying to, is she thinking in her eyes that she's like making
Angel relevant by like bringing up all this stuff about her or
like, I think she's trying to test her to see how she'll react
and like, what she'll be like asa housewife.
Can you handle confrontation? And Angel's just like I, I don't
understand why you're coming at me this way.
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And it's and that's when we get more into she looks like she
feels very uncomfortable and is very weary.
And why am I doing this? And what did you get me into?
Kay, right. And then the whole thing about
the photo of her not looking like her.
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What was Giselle trying? And Ashley too, Just I mean, we
all first, we all, I, I don't, but they all housewives all use
filters, right? None of them look like this.
Right. But even beyond that, like she
is visibly the larger largest woman on the cast body body
wise. And so for me, see just for her
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to for them to come at her and be like this person is not the
same person I see in front of me.
It says just so many to me. It's borderline body shaming.
The subtext was you're trying tolook like you're skinnier.
Is that what? I think the the subtext was
you're just trying to look like you're someone else entirely.
Like you're trying to look prettier and more glamour and
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younger and prettier all around than you actually are.
And that like there's nothing, there's nothing in this photo
that resembles the person that sits in front of me.
Which is a load of bullshit I I admit.
The phrasing on that was really harsh.
Right. That one photo they showed, I
can see, I can see what they're talking about.
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It doesn't immediately look likeAngel.
I don't think it's a good representation of what we're
seeing of Angel on camera. I think she looks better in
person. I agree and then when they they
did show her her social media, alot of those seem to have
filters. So I think she's going to suffer
from the never say never speaking absolutes where it.
Says do that or she knew what they were talking about and she
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might. This is another thing, you know,
a theory. She might not feel her best
because she had a child recently.
And someone said that she had a child.
I think 15 might be months ago. Yeah, yeah, so sad because she's
still pumping, Yeah. And so it's like, don't you
know? It's like, why?
Why even? It's like you bring this up, So
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what are you trying to say? What did you think, Angel?
Like, are you trying to say thatAngel's misrepresenting herself?
What do you want her to say, right?
What do you want her to give you, Giselle?
And that's the thing, no matter what she says, it's not going to
be good enough for Giselle. Giselle's going to twist it.
If she's be like, oh, that's me,I don't care.
If you don't like it, then it's like, oh, you don't care.
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Oh, so you don't want to be partof this group.
It's like she'd find a way to twist it no matter what.
And maybe that's Giselle's talent, but it's.
Interesting, because it's something that, you know,
Giselle would throw it, Karen, and you're being fake.
You're not like, you know, what are you doing, Karen?
And Karen would just, like, throw it right back at her with
something ridiculous. But with Angel, she's a very,
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she's much more quiet. I'm not meek.
I'm not saying meek, but she's, you know, more observed.
Yeah. So she's not going to give it
back to Giselle. And so you kind of look like
you're beating up on a on a person who can't.
Or who? Just yeah.
Who's? Not got to pay it back, yeah.
And maybe it's not, it's not a good fight that.
Yeah, and that's why it's as a viewer, I just don't I don't
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want to see any more of it. And if it just keeps happening,
it's like I part of me is thinking, Angels, it hurt me
when you I I don't know why I'm so invested, but you were like,
I really can see Angel being a one and done this season.
And not because she's a bad housewife, because, but I think
she might say, why am I doing this right?
I'm going to go back to Coloradoright with my husband.
This is bullshit. This is not, I don't know what
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she thought she signed up for, but it's I don't think she's
having any fun. If you're not having fun, it's
going to read on camera, right? And I don't know if it's going
to be better in the second season.
And the producers might say you're not seeing like you're
enjoying yourself. So it's a mutual thing of where
we part ways. Right.
And that's The thing is that again, I feel like other
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franchises, not all of them, they all have their problems
when they bring on a new housewife.
There's more of a like a welcometo the group, you know, but
Potomac has regularly and consistently been we don't like
the new person, yes. We think we're suspicious of the
new person, yes. And I just, I don't.
Giselle's done this with Monique, she's doing it with
(20:32):
Wendy Canis eventually. And now Angel.
Well, it's Stacey, so do you notwant it?
Can't be the Giselle Ashley show, That'd be freaking boring
because you guys don't do anything, right?
You're not going to show your real lives.
You're not going to. Yeah, yeah.
I'd liked at the end when Staceyasked yourself she was dating
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anyone. She really came like, yeah, I
have the picture right here. Like she was really kind of
trying to bring it. And I'm like, I give you a for
effort, Stacey. I wouldn't give her an A for
effort. I mean, I'd.
Give you B for effort. That was like a reunion moment
where she brings out, you know, the the receipts and you're just
like that those aren't receipts.Because Giselle was right.
Like, yeah, I've been on some dates with him.
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But where I think it was interesting is when Ashley was
like, and then they're like, well, she is still dating.
So that's where like, I want oneof them to pounce and say, oh,
well, we're being fake. We're not presenting.
Ourselves date, not on camera. Right.
Yes, or not even that we're not presenting ourselves in a in a
way we're not representing ourselves to you.
Well, you're not representing yourself to us.
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Right. That's what Stacey was trying to
prove, right? And I understand why Ashley was
stuttering, you know, like, whatis it to you?
Well, because Ashley probably was asked.
She knows the situation. Yeah, she knows the situation.
So yeah, I, I just. I don't know just I don't know
Ashley, just birds with of a. Feather.
(21:58):
I was gonna say some sort of like twist like crappy feather.
Birds of a vulture. And also Ashley could not wait.
So one just all couldn't wait todinner to like be like, Angel,
that's not you. Yeah.
And then Ashley couldn't wait tobring out the Chris Samuel of it
all. Samuels, Samuel.
(22:19):
Samuels. Samuels of it all, Yeah.
And I'm just curious to see whatStacy's response will be.
I think it'll just be deny, denyand.
But that's The thing is I could see a moment where Stacey was
like kind of looking like, yeah.And.
What's it to you, Ashley? Right.
He's not still married to Monique, Right?
If she was going after him, she's not still with Monique.
(22:39):
He's not still with Monique. I don't understand.
You're not even that close to Monique.
Certainly Giselle is not so. Yeah.
So it's just like all this like trying to like.
I gotcha. What are you getting right?
Yeah, I'm, I'm just. I think it goes back to the
messy timeline of TJ and Stacey's husband.
And you know, when did this happen with?
I don't know, right? What I am happy to see is that
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Kieran and Stacey had some sort of see that's they had a great
comfort. They apparently had a good
little chitchat. And then even after the two of
them on camera in front of all the other women were like, you
know, we had a good conversation.
They're still trying to twist that into something else.
Well, I thought bubble, but it'slike, yeah, we were sitting next
to each other on a plane and we had.
You asked me for gum. Yeah, it's like it wasn't deep,
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but we weren't sitting there like screaming at each other.
It was like we were getting to know each other like I.
Thought when Stacy said it in a in a better way than Giselle
saying Angel, do you feel comfortable with this group or
like you know, do you, are you open to me?
Are you open to having relationships outside of Qiana?
That was a good way of phrasing it.
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And I don't think it's being shady.
She's being honest because she also said in her professional
that she wanted to give Angel what she didn't have, which was
a warm welcome to the group. And then Angel wasn't
responsive. Here's the thing.
Angel wants people to come to her and like, you know, be
friendly to her. But she's not giving back the
same energy, it seems. Yeah, you know, I can agree with
that. And then with the whole, like,
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Wendy of it all and that, like, I didn't need 5 minutes of,
well, like, Kieran's house. I get it.
Wendy and Kieran's house Angel had some heat for ya, right?
But let's move on from that. And then now they're trying to
introduce this idea that Angel didn't graduate college.
Right. So why are you trying to say she
didn't graduate college? And also on top of that, what's
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it to ya? Right?
Like she clearly like doesn't need a degree to be married to
her husband and to be on the housewives.
Like she can do so many other things without a degree.
Yeah, I feel like. You're and Wendy.
I'm sorry. Horrible.
Also, Wendy, I'm sorry. Look where your 4° are getting
ya. It seems so, you know, I mean.
Just. I love Wendy I've she was one of
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my favorites in the past but like watching everyone just cut
everyone else down is just. I will say I like Wendy and
Stacey together. I like how they kind of like,
we're like kicking at the table and right, and that closeness
because Wendy doesn't have Candace anymore, so she's like,
OK, Stacey. Yeah, me, yeah, I like that and
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I like Jazzy. I like that whole mix and that
little villa, the three of them staying together and then.
So I know the villas were very pretty.
No one had a lame villa. I know Tia and the nanny's
corners. Right now.
But it's her own thing. She's like.
Roommates, yeah, she didn't havea pool or anything, but still, I
think it's still great, you know, Yeah, shut the door by
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yourself away from those crazy people.
So it was a very. What we've seen so far is pretty
pretty. It's been backdrop for a
backdrop for a trip. It's just I wish they weren't
all trying to take each other down.
No, that's just it's, it's too also it's too early in the
season like be trying to annihilate more.
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Fun. Right.
More fun because you have to have a mix of fun and shade,
right? And Giselle doesn't breed, isn't
I'll get fun from. Giselle, I'm not like I again,
I'd almost rather have Mia and Gordon back and like, hear about
Mr. Ink, you know, for another season and a half than deal with
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Giselle trying to ice everybody out, right and make them feel
unwelcome right now. I mean, again, if there was a
context of like the producers were like, we don't know which
one of these women let's, you know, why don't you put them to
the test? Like if that's what was going
on, I OK, I can forgive it a little bit.
Because I it could be happening too.
It could be. But at the same time, like, I
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think Giselle should, you know, be if that was going on, I would
feel better as a viewer of like,hey, look, you know, this is a
tough group sometimes. We got to make sure you can hold
your own, like that sort of thing.
I'd be much happier to hear it phrased as because right now it
just seems like, hey, just coming at you for the sake of
coming at you. And like, I just don't want to
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have anyone else in this group. I don't, you know, I'm better
than all of you. And she's clearly not.
No. And then it's boring.
If you don't have new blood, youknow, you've lost so many
people, Mia and Candace and Karen, you need to have more
people in their new conversations and a new energy,
which I think Angel brings that and they're just unwilling to
accept it because she's not the same old, same old.
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So you don't want to, You don't.This doesn't, this show doesn't
need to have 8 Giselles Giselle.So I don't understand.
Now I do worry that the whole you know, Angel Kiarna thing is
going to be like a Mia. What's her face?
Oh Jacqueline and Jack, I am waiting for them to like fall
out. I wonder if that I don't follow
either one of them on social media.
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But true. Yeah, but yeah, now I just, you
know, I, I don't need them to beride or die for each other all
season long. I think it's like, I'm going to
bring on such a close friend. It's nine times out of 10 you're
not going to be close friend. Like, that's why so many of
these women don't bring their close friends on the show.
Well, I mean, often that's because when you know things get
dirty, you can pull out a secretthat you know from real life.
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That's when things get messy. But if you can keep it still
surfacing on the show and. I think if you want to maintain
a real friendship, do not bring that person a friend.
Yeah, yeah, like. Clearly Giselle and Tia are not
friends. Oh, yeah, I met a few times in
hopes that she might come on to the show.
Like, let's see how feel her out, Giselle, go to lunch with
her and she's like, oh, this is my friend Tia.
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No, you got to know her band andher husband.
You don't know her kids. And that's The thing is like
they also will sit there and saylike, oh, I thought you 2 knew
each other and like they no one will accept.
Well, yeah, we met each other once or twice at an event like
that came up a little bit in today's episode.
I don't forget which wife was saying that.
I think it was Tia was saying, Oh yeah, I said something at
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Theta, but like just just drivesme nuts, Drives me nuts.
So. I understand a lot.
Yeah, but but what was the big? Oh, the big to be continued is
the Chris Samuels of it all. Or hang your hat on that.
Well, she's just going to say no.
She's not going to say yeah. I was trying to get with Chris
Samuel. But what if she does?
I mean, that's the other thing. What?
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Does she have time? What does she have time with
that? With the whole TJ debacle?
And then gave me back to her husband.
Or or never being divorced from him in the first place.
Which CMZ has proven that she's actually divorced?
Right. I just want Stacy to rub that in
Ashley's little face. Yeah.
I mean, if we this is a if, I'm sure there'll be some of that.
I know Ashley and Colin, no one a hoe like girl.
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We saw you on Love Hoe town. OK, going for the granddaddy and
his adopted grandson. God, he he had to drink some
water after that one. Yeah.
I mean, this is an example for me right now, short of them
giving us some, you know, actualstory going on, I would just be
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very happy to Fast forward to the reunion.
Really. Yeah.
I like if it's going to be more of this the rest of the season,
I'm. I'm ready for Monique to come
back. So then Ashley can really like,
so Monique and Stacey and I, I just, I really hope that Stacey
and Monique actually become friends and just like completely
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obliterate Ash's little plan. He's so funny.
They're like, OK, that's fine. That'd be great, yeah.
I like it. That's what's right.
Like my husband, I don't care. Yeah.
Like go and have him. Clear, clear X.
Yeah. Keyword X.
Yeah, don't need him, don't wanthim.
Feel free to have him hence. X Yeah, they're dumb.
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Well, I mean, that was the show this week, right?
Yeah, I think we hit all the. All the beats there.
All the beats. Didn't forget anybody.
Tia's son wants to get adopted. That was.
Cute. That was a cute, fun little
moment. That's what we need more of.
Just like, you know, lightness. It was also it's nice that she
can like joke, like, see, that'sgood housewife where she can
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say, yeah, I miss my kids. I'm not there for their
birthday. But like, in reality, she's 14.
She doesn't need me. Like she really just wants to
have her birthday party. And then, you know, that little
cute tongue in cheek stuff with her son, right?
Like try not to get adopted before I get back on Sunday like
that's. That's tongue in cheek, Ashley,
Yes. That's what that is, yeah.
So anyway. But yeah, that was a cute little
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scene, yeah. I enjoy her more.
I I, I think the other episode Iwas saying, I don't know about
her, but she's growing on me. Yeah.
And I'm warming up to her. And you know, I'm getting used
to the British accents. I'm worried that I'm, I'm a
little too, I, I think because Idon't think it's fair the way
they're treating Angel. I'm a little too on Angel's side
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about everything. Like I want to see that go well.
And also because I think she's quite reasonable right now.
But I am worried that maybe she's doing some stuff behind
the scenes and like, maybe she'snot being honest with the other
women and about something. And that's what this is all
leading to. And I'm going to have to eat.
I hope because you shouldn't come on the show if you have
some sort of see dark secret. I don't think it's that.
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I think it's gonna end up being something about how like, she
and Kianna were planning something, or like there's just
something disingenuine, or she'sjust leaving out a big part of
her story to focus. On, you know, as if we're not
getting the whole picture. Or it could just be that that
the picture isn't that big. It could just be like, yeah,
this is who I am. Like it's not not that big of a
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little. Smoking gun, right?
Exactly. It's just we're not getting key
elements. It was just, well, as Tia was
saying, you know, what are you leaving out here?
I'm confused. That's right, because again,
things are happening off camera.It's not translating on camera
when they're actually having scenes with one another.
And if you're confused and seen as a housewife, think of the
audience of We Don't What? You know, it's because Wendy and
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they all keep looking at each other across the table, kind of
giving those eyes like. Remember we talked about this
thing? It's like it's bullet point I.
That thing that I said. In the dossier, yeah.
So it's like that that's got to stop and I hope it I hope it
does end soon. So anyway, we all good on this
one. We talk about it next time.
Till next time.
Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched episode of the
Renal Housewives of Potomac. Yes, and Nevis, Nevis.
Yes, Nevis. Which is somewhere with a B.
It's either in a Bermuda or Barbados or Bahamas or Brooklyn
or Baltimore or. It's adjacent to Saint Kitts,
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yes, and you have to take a plane, a train, a boat,
automobile. Ride the back of a mermaid, as
long as you don't have camouflage with you.
No, then you're not allowed in the country.
Even I don't care if it's Prada.Yeah, even Prada makes mistakes.
Yeah, that's an interesting law.I'd, you know, interested.
Should Google that later. I don't.
Feel like it's something to do with, you know, you don't want
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to look like your military and Idon't know.
Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right.
We started off at the Preakness,not the freakness or whatever.
I thought, I don't know what they were saying, but tense.
It was very pretentious. Yes.
First Lady of Maryland was like,I'm not going to be on camera.
I don't know these hoes. Yeah.
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A lot of hoes. The people call people hoes in
this episode. There, There's a lot in this
episode, and if I can just kind of set the tone for what I
thought about this episode and what I'm feeling about this
season so far, I would rather watch Miami.
Yeah, I'd rather go back and watch and see what the fuss
about Dallas was about Dallas oreven Real Housewives of DC.
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I have 0 interest in watching these women play telephone all
season and talk about what so and so said about so and so last
week about such and such and having beef and you came at me
wrong with the wrong tone. Da da da da da.
I do not care at all. It's petty, but it's like,
here's the thing, do you want petty drama or do you want like
really dark, you know, I homophobic drama.
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I don't want I. It all feels like a witch hunt
to me, this whole thing. I've seen Giselle do this
before. It's hazing.
I I, I don't want to see it. Yeah.
And honestly, like, I'd give it to you because.
And I'm nowhere jumping away ahead on it, but I'll give it to
you that like you're, you're sensing something not right with
Angel and the kind of the the stuff that she's saying.
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And they're like when she was saying, oh, no one said hi to me
at the airport. And then they cut and show
scenes of her and everyone pretty much saying hello to her.
So she's spinning a different narrative, perhaps.
But right now I feel so bad for Angel.
Yeah. I just, you know, and they're
making it a big deal that like, oh, we just don't want to be the
Angel in Kiarna show. And it's like, well, why the
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hell not? It's the Ashley Giselle show
over there. And then did they say that?
Yeah, at one point they're like,you know, we don't, you know,
we're just worried that, you know, we got little factions and
it's, it's just. Oh, what?
Oh, what did I say? And.
Then what Giselle's doing to Stacy.
No, it's like you can be queen bee without having to talk down
to people or push them down. Yeah, like, we get it, Giselle,
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you're the longest running. Well, with Ashley, your little
counterpart, you're the Ogs and you're, you know, you want to be
queen Bee and it's you think it's the Giselle show and you
can like dictate things, but it is it's just it's unreasonably
shady to like treat somebody like, I don't know who this is.
I don't know this Stacy because she's not playing your game.
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It goes back to like two or three episodes ago where like
Stacy's not playing the game, but Gill wants her to and she's
annoyed by it. So she's going to, like, do
these little, like, messy littledumb details like, you know, the
Blake notes. It's symbolic.
No shit. Yeah.
Yeah. I get symbolism.
I don't understand why you're doing it.
Right. And it's like the the amount of
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effort it took to not do that. To pay to so everyone would draw
attention to it. So like everyone's gonna know
now I don't like you. Message received like 2 episodes
ago. Yeah, it's like, it's like the
amount of rent that you're paying.
Stacy in your head, yeah, it's you and Ashley are just like,
it's like the Stacy takedown season for no reason.
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And the thing in no word, she did the whole thing.
This is not the same person I saw last season.
She did the exact same thing to.Wendy, just.
Cause Wendy got her boobs done and came out her second season a
little more confident than she was the first season.
As though I'm sure if we go watch Giselle season 1 and
compare her to season 2, she's the same woman at all.
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I mean, she's still the the same, Yeah, Giselle, but like,
she's glowed up too. Yeah, the wigs got better.
Well, sometimes, you know, it's just the the makeup got better.
It's just what it just happens. You know, housewives evolve and
like, it's a lot of attention ispaid to the visuals.
So I. Don't, especially if you see
yourself first season and go, oh, there's things that maybe I
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don't like or I prefer. I look different.
Why did I wear that outfit? Like, why did I have that
makeup? Yeah.
I'm just I'm so I just don't know that I can do the whole
season if it continues to be this whole finger pointing you
said. It's so nitpicky and I'm trying
not to be negative about the show, but it I it's just
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unbearable right now. Like I want some.
It's also because they're talking about a lot of things
that either happened off camera,which we know is always the
frustration, or in a flashback that we have not yet seen.
And so it's like, if they're going to make the entire drama
so far be about things that someone said, how about you find
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a way, editors, to put it in thenatural course of the show, Even
going back in this episode to Kierna asking Angel, do you like
that woman? Do you like that woman referring
to Wendy? Yeah, we got to see that.
I'd prefer that the all the drama and the beefs come through
stuff like that because at leastwe got to see it happen when it
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was happening. Right.
But then the whole reason they bring that up is that, well, you
and Angel and Kierna clearly hada conversation off camera about
Wendy, and we want to know what that's about.
And the whole thing with Jazzy, like that conversation, that's
what she had with Kierna about Wendy and don't care.
You're right. It's a lot of it's off camera
and it's, it's, it's confusing because I'm not seeing it play
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out like because they're plotting behind off camera or
like they're having side conversations and it's just, you
know, you got to like, just saveit for what are we dealing with
right now, right? Why don't you like me right now,
Not six months ago? Or six weeks ago or yeah, since
we picked up cameras this season.
What have I, you know? What's the issue?
Yeah, I now I will say that I doenjoy you can see Wendy switch
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gears between like talking aboutthe whole Angel thing and then
like, oh, Speaking of which, I noticed Giselle that Stacy
doesn't have. A bathrobe that was a good
pivot. It was almost as though like,
well, you know, if you know, I'mnot done moving story yet.
Before before we move off of me,let's move on to someone else.
Before I move on to my warm octopus salad.
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Ohh God geez. Yeah, I don't think I need a
warm octopus. I.
Haven't warm anything now, but let's start from the beginning.
OK. Yes, Preakness.
Preakness, obviously there wasn't much, you know, like it
was friction between Stacy and Kiarna.
Boring. You know, they get to the the
racetrack, blah blah blah, you know others stuff.
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Oh, Jazzy showed up. There was a weird whole WAG
thing and like my husband's been.
I was like what? I don't think that Angel met
anything by my husband's. It's yeah, especially I feel
like the tone that she had was like, Oh yeah, what's your,
what's your, your, your fiance Do OK, Did oh, mine's, you know,
been a starter for 10 years. Did it And yeah, maybe there's a
(07:39):
hint or a bit of shade to it, but it's also it seemed to me
that it was more of like we're sisters here, you know, like
we're. There's something in common,
yeah. And this what we have in common
and this is how I deal with it. What yours.
Cool, Good. No, I'm.
Clarifying, you know, like who my husband is and whatever it
wasn't like meant to be and yours is so much smaller and
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he's a bench warmer. The fact that like, the producer
in her confessional had to like say that.
So are you saying, you know, shetried to connect the dots and
and then Angel did get like a little shady?
Yeah. But I mean, it's also something
that I'm sure that if you as an NFL player, if you're a starter,
it's something that is probably something you brag about.
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It's not something that I think you, well, you probably do to,
you know, show some status, but it's not like it's it's it's an
accomplishment, you know, it's something you would be proud of
that I've been a starter for 10 years, you know, And so it's
just, again, it's one of these things, just because someone is
being congratulated over here doesn't take away from anything
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over there. I yeah, I don't think that Angel
was saying, well, your fiance isnothing because he's just a
bench warmer because she. Didn't.
And yeah, I just. So yeah, it was just a little
bit back and forth like that, and then Jazzy and Kiarna got
into it and which seemed out of nowhere.
And I'm engaged and you're not. And there's just like I.
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Don't know. So see, that's the sort of that
shade I can get behind. The whole like you're living in
a little condo that's good shade, yeah.
Like that's the sort of thing where, you know, if you're going
to be coming, like it, it just, it's very direct.
You're, you know, instead of this kind of under the surface,
I'm coming at you and I'm tryingto like maneuver.
It's just like Jazzy's coming one straight at you and I really
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like that. I would prefer that.
Yes, that's a better, it's more interesting, I agree.
Yes. So did anything else happen in?
Pregnancy. There was some a couple other
things I don't really. I never did her.
Basically it was like Karen and Wendy and then kind of Wendy and
Angel. And then so Jazzy showed up and,
(09:47):
like, shifted the whole energy. She was doing a lot, you know,
But I liked her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I will have to say that like there is definitely something I.
Tia and and Ashley, what about when Tia said it's tongue in
cheek and like what is that like?
Kiarna was like what? No, it wasn't Karenna.
What was Ashley? What is tongue in cheek?
And I had to, like, explain it to her and she's like, catch up.
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Yeah. I wish you'd like pursued that
energy like you're lame. Yeah.
Yeah. But British?
Right, right, right. I'm lame.
Also, who's never heard of tongue in cheek?
It's a common term. So I mean, I, I do think that
Tia didn't define it well because I think tongue in cheek
is, I was just throwing a littlebit of shade your way.
I was just being a little messy as, you know, poking fun.
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You know that's what tongue in cheek is.
It's not necessarily shadiness, it's just the more like you
know, it's more it's. Just poking fun.
It's like. It's poking fun, yeah.
Yeah, but like in a really lighthearted way I always feel.
Yeah, you know, like do you dirty, right.
And it actually comes from a dirty I'm going to do dirty
plays. So she'll just jump to.
That just everyone, everyone trying to find a problem with
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everyone else. And that's I think that's where
ultimately. There's no real sisterhood here.
I don't, I don't. I'm not looking for kumbaya.
I don't need them. I don't need Sutton to show up
and tie their hands with a ribbon and and do a whole
sisterhood. Ceremony.
Not a lot of the time. The ribbon.
I don't, I don't need that. But what I don't, I don't know.
It just doesn't seem welcoming at all.
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Like, why would anyone want to be on this show, period?
Because you're going to get on the show and all you're going to
do like. Is defend your.
First off, I shouldn't have to prove myself to Giselle Brian
like. Thank you.
No, I shouldn't have prove myself to anyone else on that
show. You know why?
Because the fucking producers gave me a contract and that's
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why I'm on the show. Exactly.
And I would really, really, really want Angel or Tia to be
like, you know what? That's the problem though, is
that when they're filming, I probably at this time they don't
know for sure, right what their role is.
Yes, so they can't think at the reunion.
She should say I do. I was.
I proved myself to producers andthe casting.
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You are not neither of those things.
Those are not your roles. So I don't have to.
Kiss your ass. And give you an essay about who
who Angel in. Or who Who Stacey is.
Yeah, I shouldn't have to spell it out for you.
And like, no, I might. Have Stacey like they brought me
back for another season. How you like me now?
Yeah, like, and then she did kind of say that towards she's
(12:15):
like, I'm here. Like she was kind of saying, I'm
here on this trip. You know, yeah, like, you can't,
You can leave my name off and give me a blank card, but I'm
still going to be here. Yeah.
You still had to contractually invite me as a contract wife.
Yeah. So.
I do wonder, I do wonder if Giselle understands how she
comes off. Yeah, she doesn't care.
(12:37):
She doesn't care really. Sounds really smart.
The idea that she put she put Tia into the nanny's quarters,
it's just like what I don't. Think she really saw that as
shade. I think she was like being like
tongue in cheek with whole Brit thing, but it was just it was
dopey. Her delivery is dopey.
She's not as good with her wordsas she thinks she is and not as,
like, sly and clever. And I I yeah, yeah, I suppose,
(13:01):
like, she's not Kenya. No, like Kenya can like, serve
it, flip it, twerk it, twerk it.Slip it and reverse.
It, yes, Slip it, flip it, rub it down, you know, in a way that
Giselle never could. Right.
Right. And it's just, it's just, yeah,
yeah. So they get to the airport.
At 4:00 AM. Wouldn't be me.
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Well, you'd be there at 3:00 AM for a 5:00 AM flight.
You would be. Yeah, that's like you don't even
go to bed and then you like, that's why there's so sleepy on
the plane. They did have the obligatory
packing scene, but it was such aweak sort of thing 'cause it was
Angel and then one other person,Ashley like.
Get her stylus. Yeah, her friend Corey Who?
(13:44):
Chose that outfit that she was wearing.
But I like how like, oh, we're just to give you a taste of the
packing and then off to the airport.
But yeah, I, I thought it was, it was nice.
It was cool. They make this big whoop to do
about Jazzy being an economy. It's like, okay.
We're all going in the same place.
It's a it's a little plane, yeah.
And then it's I thought it was weird or like, oh, it's it's
(14:08):
your bridal party thing, right? And it's Wendy's boy boyfriend
birthday. And it's like, OK, yeah, we're
just we're going on a girls trip, logging away, right?
It's just, it's whatever. But I do like that Wendy every
year gets to, while filming, talk about it's her birthday
incessantly. And yeah, like, OK, we get it,
Wendy, it's your birthday. You have.
(14:28):
To turn another year older is Lord.
Might be her last birthday on the show.
Oh. Oh, Wendy.
Yeah, yeah. Basically it was like they, oh,
Angel, they set the intention. Angel set the intention that she
wanted to get to know everybody better and you know, and how
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they get to know her. And then it was, oh, then that
was when, no, there's on the boat.
There's so many places. They were.
I know they kept going to placesand sitting down and drinking
champagne. So I'm like, wait, was that on
the boat? Oh.
No customs and the lounge. Yeah, it could have been.
It doesn't matter. Brought up the whole Kionna
didn't watch or angels didn't want you to come, just that was
really just coming hard. For an Angel and I right, I
(15:11):
don't understand why, because I would agree with Angel did not
say she didn't want specificallysay didn't want Kiarna to come.
I think there was conversation and I think Jezelle says I'm
like, oh, should I invite so andso?
And then that's when she said oh, just invite Cherise instead
because it was like I know Cherise.
I don't think there's anything she meant by it.
(15:32):
I don't think, yeah, she's goinghard.
Like I don't want to go. She's going or like do an invite
that jazzy with her bench warmerboyfriend, right?
Right. Yeah.
And so again, it's like I just said something really, really, I
don't know, just shows how mean spirited this Giselle could be
that she just makes all and I know it's her job right now and
she gets paid like, you know. Yeah, but like, I mean, is she
(15:54):
trying to, is she thinking in her eyes that she's like making
Angel relevant by like bringing up all this stuff about her or
like, I think she's trying to test her to see how she'll react
and like, what she'll be like asa housewife.
Can you handle confrontation? And Angel's just like I, I don't
understand why you're coming at me this way.
(16:14):
And it's and that's when we get more into she looks like she
feels very uncomfortable and is very weary.
And why am I doing this? And what did you get me into?
Kay, right. And then the whole thing about
the photo of her not looking like her.
(16:34):
What was Giselle trying? And Ashley too, Just I mean, we
all first, we all, I, I don't, but they all housewives all use
filters, right? None of them look like this.
Right. But even beyond that, like she
is visibly the larger largest woman on the cast body body
wise. And so for me, see just for her
(16:57):
to for them to come at her and be like this person is not the
same person I see in front of me.
It says just so many to me. It's borderline body shaming.
The subtext was you're trying tolook like you're skinnier.
Is that what? I think the the subtext was
you're just trying to look like you're someone else entirely.
Like you're trying to look prettier and more glamour and
(17:17):
younger and prettier all around than you actually are.
And that like there's nothing, there's nothing in this photo
that resembles the person that sits in front of me.
Which is a load of bullshit I I admit.
The phrasing on that was really harsh.
Right. That one photo they showed, I
can see, I can see what they're talking about.
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It doesn't immediately look likeAngel.
I don't think it's a good representation of what we're
seeing of Angel on camera. I think she looks better in
person. I agree and then when they they
did show her her social media, alot of those seem to have
filters. So I think she's going to suffer
from the never say never speaking absolutes where it.
Says do that or she knew what they were talking about and she
(18:01):
might. This is another thing, you know,
a theory. She might not feel her best
because she had a child recently.
And someone said that she had a child.
I think 15 might be months ago. Yeah, yeah, so sad because she's
still pumping, Yeah. And so it's like, don't you
know? It's like, why?
Why even? It's like you bring this up, So
(18:23):
what are you trying to say? What did you think, Angel?
Like, are you trying to say thatAngel's misrepresenting herself?
What do you want her to say, right?
What do you want her to give you, Giselle?
And that's the thing, no matter what she says, it's not going to
be good enough for Giselle. Giselle's going to twist it.
If she's be like, oh, that's me,I don't care.
If you don't like it, then it's like, oh, you don't care.
(18:45):
Oh, so you don't want to be partof this group.
It's like she'd find a way to twist it no matter what.
And maybe that's Giselle's talent, but it's.
Interesting, because it's something that, you know,
Giselle would throw it, Karen, and you're being fake.
You're not like, you know, what are you doing, Karen?
And Karen would just, like, throw it right back at her with
something ridiculous. But with Angel, she's a very,
(19:05):
she's much more quiet. I'm not meek.
I'm not saying meek, but she's, you know, more observed.
Yeah. So she's not going to give it
back to Giselle. And so you kind of look like
you're beating up on a on a person who can't.
Or who? Just yeah.
Who's? Not got to pay it back, yeah.
And maybe it's not, it's not a good fight that.
Yeah, and that's why it's as a viewer, I just don't I don't
(19:27):
want to see any more of it. And if it just keeps happening,
it's like I part of me is thinking, Angels, it hurt me
when you I I don't know why I'm so invested, but you were like,
I really can see Angel being a one and done this season.
And not because she's a bad housewife, because, but I think
she might say, why am I doing this right?
I'm going to go back to Coloradoright with my husband.
This is bullshit. This is not, I don't know what
(19:49):
she thought she signed up for, but it's I don't think she's
having any fun. If you're not having fun, it's
going to read on camera, right? And I don't know if it's going
to be better in the second season.
And the producers might say you're not seeing like you're
enjoying yourself. So it's a mutual thing of where
we part ways. Right.
And that's The thing is that again, I feel like other
(20:10):
franchises, not all of them, they all have their problems
when they bring on a new housewife.
There's more of a like a welcometo the group, you know, but
Potomac has regularly and consistently been we don't like
the new person, yes. We think we're suspicious of the
new person, yes. And I just, I don't.
Giselle's done this with Monique, she's doing it with
(20:32):
Wendy Canis eventually. And now Angel.
Well, it's Stacey, so do you notwant it?
Can't be the Giselle Ashley show, That'd be freaking boring
because you guys don't do anything, right?
You're not going to show your real lives.
You're not going to. Yeah, yeah.
I'd liked at the end when Staceyasked yourself she was dating
(20:53):
anyone. She really came like, yeah, I
have the picture right here. Like she was really kind of
trying to bring it. And I'm like, I give you a for
effort, Stacey. I wouldn't give her an A for
effort. I mean, I'd.
Give you B for effort. That was like a reunion moment
where she brings out, you know, the the receipts and you're just
like that those aren't receipts.Because Giselle was right.
Like, yeah, I've been on some dates with him.
(21:15):
But where I think it was interesting is when Ashley was
like, and then they're like, well, she is still dating.
So that's where like, I want oneof them to pounce and say, oh,
well, we're being fake. We're not presenting.
Ourselves date, not on camera. Right.
Yes, or not even that we're not presenting ourselves in a in a
way we're not representing ourselves to you.
Well, you're not representing yourself to us.
(21:37):
Right. That's what Stacey was trying to
prove, right? And I understand why Ashley was
stuttering, you know, like, whatis it to you?
Well, because Ashley probably was asked.
She knows the situation. Yeah, she knows the situation.
So yeah, I, I just. I don't know just I don't know
Ashley, just birds with of a. Feather.
(21:58):
I was gonna say some sort of like twist like crappy feather.
Birds of a vulture. And also Ashley could not wait.
So one just all couldn't wait todinner to like be like, Angel,
that's not you. Yeah.
And then Ashley couldn't wait tobring out the Chris Samuel of it
all. Samuels, Samuel.
(22:19):
Samuels. Samuels of it all, Yeah.
And I'm just curious to see whatStacy's response will be.
I think it'll just be deny, denyand.
But that's The thing is I could see a moment where Stacey was
like kind of looking like, yeah.And.
What's it to you, Ashley? Right.
He's not still married to Monique, Right?
If she was going after him, she's not still with Monique.
(22:39):
He's not still with Monique. I don't understand.
You're not even that close to Monique.
Certainly Giselle is not so. Yeah.
So it's just like all this like trying to like.
I gotcha. What are you getting right?
Yeah, I'm, I'm just. I think it goes back to the
messy timeline of TJ and Stacey's husband.
And you know, when did this happen with?
I don't know, right? What I am happy to see is that
(23:01):
Kieran and Stacey had some sort of see that's they had a great
comfort. They apparently had a good
little chitchat. And then even after the two of
them on camera in front of all the other women were like, you
know, we had a good conversation.
They're still trying to twist that into something else.
Well, I thought bubble, but it'slike, yeah, we were sitting next
to each other on a plane and we had.
You asked me for gum. Yeah, it's like it wasn't deep,
(23:23):
but we weren't sitting there like screaming at each other.
It was like we were getting to know each other like I.
Thought when Stacy said it in a in a better way than Giselle
saying Angel, do you feel comfortable with this group or
like you know, do you, are you open to me?
Are you open to having relationships outside of Qiana?
That was a good way of phrasing it.
(23:44):
And I don't think it's being shady.
She's being honest because she also said in her professional
that she wanted to give Angel what she didn't have, which was
a warm welcome to the group. And then Angel wasn't
responsive. Here's the thing.
Angel wants people to come to her and like, you know, be
friendly to her. But she's not giving back the
same energy, it seems. Yeah, you know, I can agree with
that. And then with the whole, like,
(24:05):
Wendy of it all and that, like, I didn't need 5 minutes of,
well, like, Kieran's house. I get it.
Wendy and Kieran's house Angel had some heat for ya, right?
But let's move on from that. And then now they're trying to
introduce this idea that Angel didn't graduate college.
Right. So why are you trying to say she
didn't graduate college? And also on top of that, what's
(24:26):
it to ya? Right?
Like she clearly like doesn't need a degree to be married to
her husband and to be on the housewives.
Like she can do so many other things without a degree.
Yeah, I feel like. You're and Wendy.
I'm sorry. Horrible.
Also, Wendy, I'm sorry. Look where your 4° are getting
ya. It seems so, you know, I mean.
Just. I love Wendy I've she was one of
(24:48):
my favorites in the past but like watching everyone just cut
everyone else down is just. I will say I like Wendy and
Stacey together. I like how they kind of like,
we're like kicking at the table and right, and that closeness
because Wendy doesn't have Candace anymore, so she's like,
OK, Stacey. Yeah, me, yeah, I like that and
(25:08):
I like Jazzy. I like that whole mix and that
little villa, the three of them staying together and then.
So I know the villas were very pretty.
No one had a lame villa. I know Tia and the nanny's
corners. Right now.
But it's her own thing. She's like.
Roommates, yeah, she didn't havea pool or anything, but still, I
think it's still great, you know, Yeah, shut the door by
(25:30):
yourself away from those crazy people.
So it was a very. What we've seen so far is pretty
pretty. It's been backdrop for a
backdrop for a trip. It's just I wish they weren't
all trying to take each other down.
No, that's just it's, it's too also it's too early in the
season like be trying to annihilate more.
(25:52):
Fun. Right.
More fun because you have to have a mix of fun and shade,
right? And Giselle doesn't breed, isn't
I'll get fun from. Giselle, I'm not like I again,
I'd almost rather have Mia and Gordon back and like, hear about
Mr. Ink, you know, for another season and a half than deal with
(26:14):
Giselle trying to ice everybody out, right and make them feel
unwelcome right now. I mean, again, if there was a
context of like the producers were like, we don't know which
one of these women let's, you know, why don't you put them to
the test? Like if that's what was going
on, I OK, I can forgive it a little bit.
Because I it could be happening too.
It could be. But at the same time, like, I
(26:36):
think Giselle should, you know, be if that was going on, I would
feel better as a viewer of like,hey, look, you know, this is a
tough group sometimes. We got to make sure you can hold
your own, like that sort of thing.
I'd be much happier to hear it phrased as because right now it
just seems like, hey, just coming at you for the sake of
coming at you. And like, I just don't want to
(26:57):
have anyone else in this group. I don't, you know, I'm better
than all of you. And she's clearly not.
No. And then it's boring.
If you don't have new blood, youknow, you've lost so many
people, Mia and Candace and Karen, you need to have more
people in their new conversations and a new energy,
which I think Angel brings that and they're just unwilling to
accept it because she's not the same old, same old.
(27:19):
So you don't want to, You don't.This doesn't, this show doesn't
need to have 8 Giselles Giselle.So I don't understand.
Now I do worry that the whole you know, Angel Kiarna thing is
going to be like a Mia. What's her face?
Oh Jacqueline and Jack, I am waiting for them to like fall
out. I wonder if that I don't follow
either one of them on social media.
(27:40):
But true. Yeah, but yeah, now I just, you
know, I, I don't need them to beride or die for each other all
season long. I think it's like, I'm going to
bring on such a close friend. It's nine times out of 10 you're
not going to be close friend. Like, that's why so many of
these women don't bring their close friends on the show.
Well, I mean, often that's because when you know things get
dirty, you can pull out a secretthat you know from real life.
(28:03):
That's when things get messy. But if you can keep it still
surfacing on the show and. I think if you want to maintain
a real friendship, do not bring that person a friend.
Yeah, yeah, like. Clearly Giselle and Tia are not
friends. Oh, yeah, I met a few times in
hopes that she might come on to the show.
Like, let's see how feel her out, Giselle, go to lunch with
her and she's like, oh, this is my friend Tia.
(28:25):
No, you got to know her band andher husband.
You don't know her kids. And that's The thing is like
they also will sit there and saylike, oh, I thought you 2 knew
each other and like they no one will accept.
Well, yeah, we met each other once or twice at an event like
that came up a little bit in today's episode.
I don't forget which wife was saying that.
I think it was Tia was saying, Oh yeah, I said something at
(28:46):
Theta, but like just just drivesme nuts, Drives me nuts.
So. I understand a lot.
Yeah, but but what was the big? Oh, the big to be continued is
the Chris Samuels of it all. Or hang your hat on that.
Well, she's just going to say no.
She's not going to say yeah. I was trying to get with Chris
Samuel. But what if she does?
I mean, that's the other thing. What?
(29:07):
Does she have time? What does she have time with
that? With the whole TJ debacle?
And then gave me back to her husband.
Or or never being divorced from him in the first place.
Which CMZ has proven that she's actually divorced?
Right. I just want Stacy to rub that in
Ashley's little face. Yeah.
I mean, if we this is a if, I'm sure there'll be some of that.
I know Ashley and Colin, no one a hoe like girl.
(29:31):
We saw you on Love Hoe town. OK, going for the granddaddy and
his adopted grandson. God, he he had to drink some
water after that one. Yeah.
I mean, this is an example for me right now, short of them
giving us some, you know, actualstory going on, I would just be
(29:52):
very happy to Fast forward to the reunion.
Really. Yeah.
I like if it's going to be more of this the rest of the season,
I'm. I'm ready for Monique to come
back. So then Ashley can really like,
so Monique and Stacey and I, I just, I really hope that Stacey
and Monique actually become friends and just like completely
(30:13):
obliterate Ash's little plan. He's so funny.
They're like, OK, that's fine. That'd be great, yeah.
I like it. That's what's right.
Like my husband, I don't care. Yeah.
Like go and have him. Clear, clear X.
Yeah. Keyword X.
Yeah, don't need him, don't wanthim.
Feel free to have him hence. X Yeah, they're dumb.
(30:33):
Well, I mean, that was the show this week, right?
Yeah, I think we hit all the. All the beats there.
All the beats. Didn't forget anybody.
Tia's son wants to get adopted. That was.
Cute. That was a cute, fun little
moment. That's what we need more of.
Just like, you know, lightness. It was also it's nice that she
can like joke, like, see, that'sgood housewife where she can
(30:56):
say, yeah, I miss my kids. I'm not there for their
birthday. But like, in reality, she's 14.
She doesn't need me. Like she really just wants to
have her birthday party. And then, you know, that little
cute tongue in cheek stuff with her son, right?
Like try not to get adopted before I get back on Sunday like
that's. That's tongue in cheek, Ashley,
Yes. That's what that is, yeah.
So anyway. But yeah, that was a cute little
(31:17):
scene, yeah. I enjoy her more.
I I, I think the other episode Iwas saying, I don't know about
her, but she's growing on me. Yeah.
And I'm warming up to her. And you know, I'm getting used
to the British accents. I'm worried that I'm, I'm a
little too, I, I think because Idon't think it's fair the way
they're treating Angel. I'm a little too on Angel's side
(31:37):
about everything. Like I want to see that go well.
And also because I think she's quite reasonable right now.
But I am worried that maybe she's doing some stuff behind
the scenes and like, maybe she'snot being honest with the other
women and about something. And that's what this is all
leading to. And I'm going to have to eat.
I hope because you shouldn't come on the show if you have
some sort of see dark secret. I don't think it's that.
(32:01):
I think it's gonna end up being something about how like, she
and Kianna were planning something, or like there's just
something disingenuine, or she'sjust leaving out a big part of
her story to focus. On, you know, as if we're not
getting the whole picture. Or it could just be that that
the picture isn't that big. It could just be like, yeah,
this is who I am. Like it's not not that big of a
(32:21):
little. Smoking gun, right?
Exactly. It's just we're not getting key
elements. It was just, well, as Tia was
saying, you know, what are you leaving out here?
I'm confused. That's right, because again,
things are happening off camera.It's not translating on camera
when they're actually having scenes with one another.
And if you're confused and seen as a housewife, think of the
audience of We Don't What? You know, it's because Wendy and
(32:44):
they all keep looking at each other across the table, kind of
giving those eyes like. Remember we talked about this
thing? It's like it's bullet point I.
That thing that I said. In the dossier, yeah.
So it's like that that's got to stop and I hope it I hope it
does end soon. So anyway, we all good on this
one. We talk about it next time.
Till next time.
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