October 13, 2025 • 50 mins
It’s another week of Potomac drama—and a few real-life updates from the husbands.
Stacey and Ashley’s feud keeps simmering until Stacey tries to make peace by producing divorce documents, though Giselle isn’t convinced. We get a deeper look at Angel and Tia, while Wendy and Keiarna appear to settle their differences—at least until Keiarna and Angel clash over what really happened. Stacey opens up more to Wendy, and Angel’s “tranquility party” turns anything but tranquil once Giselle stirs the pot. To top it off, Ashley drops a bombshell that Stacey allegedly tried to hook up with Monique Samuels’ ex-husband.
Outside of Potomac, we catch up on life beyond the Bravo-verse: we share updates about officially adopting our cat, Momo, a quick getaway to Sacramento, and the excitement (and mild chaos) of buying a new car. Plus, we break down the off-screen headlines surrounding Wendy Osefo’s reported legal troubles and what that could mean for the season ahead.
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(00:15):
Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott. And I'm Jeff.
And we just watched the episode of The Real Housewives of
Potomac. Sure, Episode 2 season 10.
Season 10 ought to be an easy one to remember.
Season 10. 10 That's good. 10s Tens, 10s.
Yeah, I'm happy that Miami's reunion final episode is this
week because I couldn't get one less thing to remember.
It'll be. So 1 less housewives show until
(00:37):
we get. Beverly Hills, Yeah, exactly so.
And then people are right. Bravo Con is right around the
corner. It really is.
It'll be 30 days as of Tuesday. Well, now that we've knocked
some things off our plate as faras things we need to take care
of, I'm I can focus on that a little.
More yes, for sure, and the wristbands are coming soon.
Yes, I won't delete any more emails.
(00:59):
No, I I found the e-mail. I just right, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I ordered some clothes a
while back and deleted, but might have been the shipping
confirmation. They never showed up, but you
know, I got to stop deleting things.
So, you know, you get too much crap in your inbox.
You're just like, delete, delete, delete.
I didn't spend an afternoon unsubscribing to like, you know,
those newsletters you. Get.
I like doing that too. Yeah, 'cause I'm just like, why
(01:19):
am I getting the same junk? Exactly.
And you're like, you know, you may be like what you bought from
a store, like right, But you don't need to be reminded every
four days. Buy something else.
Exactly. I get a Banana Republic e-mail
every day. Yeah, I don't need that.
Don't need that at all, No. So we've had a busy weekend.
We'll get to Potomac shortly, don't worry.
But we. And also the big news.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, we've had a busy
(01:43):
weekend. We officially adopted our cat,
Momo. Momo, if you haven't seen him,
in one of our most recent tick tocks with Jeff seating his.
I was wrong. Failed but.
Failed. I was just like off by a couple
on both sides. His Orange County seating chart
prediction so. Yeah, mine was better though.
Yeah, ice cream ears should have.
(02:03):
Been going to say they should have consulted me but you know,
whatever, it's OK, it's fine, we'll make do.
But yeah, Momo's right here. If I can pick him up without him
squirming in a bit, I will. But he's a big cat.
He's a big cat, He's a great, he's a big boy, he's sweet.
And he likes to claw furniture. Yeah, we're trying to get off
with that. You got him.
I got him. This is Momo.
(02:24):
Oh, Momo. He says, but yeah, oh, he's
going to jump off me and scar mewith his claws, I'm sure.
But yeah, he's a cute little boy.
We got him a friend, you know, Ithink we told the story.
Yeah, we did, yeah. Yeah.
So we officially, because we were trying it out like he
wasn't we were worried about himand Gabrielle are their cap and
now they're on they're they're in a good place.
(02:45):
Yep, they're playing they. Squash their beef they.
Squash their beef. Yeah, it was good.
They're playing, running around together.
So it's a good, it's a good situation using the Litter
Robot. It's yeah, yes.
We gotta work more on yeah, I gotta, hmm, we gotta just get
that older robot sponsorship. I could use.
We really should. We should promote this.
We've been using it for five years now.
Yeah, right. And we've, we've yeah, we've
(03:06):
converted many people, yes. So we'll, we'll, we'll work on
that. Yes.
And then we went to Sacramento yesterday, visited a good friend
of ours, Shannon. That was a fun time.
Who's been on the pod before? Yeah, she has.
Yeah. She expressed how she, like,
really, she's got opinions, But she was a little embarrassed the
first time we had her on the pod.
She didn't know, didn't know what to say.
But now that we've done some more kind of remote connections
with other pods, we could just do one with her.
(03:28):
You know, she lives in Sacramento.
We can just do it like a Zoom call.
She's got some opinions. A lot of opinions.
Yes, yes, yes. But yeah, Sacramento's about two
hours from us, so it's quite a trek.
It was a lot of drive. Yeah, it's a it's a drive.
But what's nice is like she always comes down here and which
is nice of her, but like, you know, we're used to doing stuff
around here. It was interesting to kind of
see and. I hadn't been to Sacramento
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since like 2016, and it's like, it's a cool place and we, you
know, yeah, there wasn't the best.
You had it. My dinner was great.
Yeah, I might. Sorry.
The place was great. My food wasn't like amazing I
mean, but yours was good. Because I had crab cake crusted
sea bass, which was the IT basically tasted like a fish
stick wrapped in in crab cake. It was delightful.
(04:11):
Delightful potatoes too. Yes, it was all around I
enjoyed. I had shoestring fries.
I hate shoestring fries. They're too thin.
You have to like put 4 together to make one real fry.
I don't understand the concept. I just want a full fry.
A real fry. And that's why you're more of a
steak fry guy. Exactly.
I see even the Wingstop fries wegot today for lunch better than
these shoestring. Wing stop.
(04:31):
They gave us like a pile of fries.
It was a pile of fry like are they frying?
Fry they competing Five guys forthe most number of fries.
It was, it was too much food. It was excuse.
Me and then yeah, today we went and we bought a car so.
Yes, after talking about it for like months and months talking
about the pod. I've been doing research upon
research like my entire like Facebook and Instagram feed is
(04:53):
nothing but like car ads and nowI get to tell them Nope bought 1
so. It's hard letting of our old car
because that was the first car we bought together and we got.
A little choked up, we did. It's so weird.
It's just like, it's an object, but it's like, you know, just
the same thing. If we moved out of this house,
it would be this first house we bought together.
It would be really tough to like, you know, there's so many
(05:14):
memories and like road trips with a couple of Rd. trips, you
know, it's just it's it was a great car, but you know, wasn't
ultimately going to work for us long term for a few reasons.
Well, it's a. Volkswagen, they're very high
maintenance and there's some rumors that the year we had had
some ongoing maintenance troubles after a certain amount
of mileage. And we'd much rather instead of
spending to have it fixed, like a lot of money to have it fixed,
(05:36):
rather put that into a new car. So we had a new car, it's a
Hyundai, it's got the 100,000 mile warranty, all that stuff.
So we'd be a little less worriedabout driving it.
And, you know, I would just suck.
My biggest worry was that I would just suck that we're going
to be in the future with, you know, money spending elsewhere
and then not being able to afford a car.
So now it's going to be good to.Right away, something like.
Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's going to be reliable
(05:58):
forward thing and it's a hybrid.Oh, I get to be Californian
finally and be like, look at me,I'm saving the environment.
Californian. I know it's going to be great,
so. 405, yeah. But as everyone know, if you
haven't bought a car before in your life, it's not a fun
experience in that. Around a lot of two hour
experience. And they didn't have any, they
didn't have a vending machine there.
So we were getting we're so. Much time.
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And the sales manager, he's like, oh, I got some crackers.
And he gave us like a thing of Ritz to eat, which is very nice
of him. I'm and we like, ate up those
Ritz, Yeah. That was it.
Saved my life at least. Ate left no crumbs.
Well, there were some crumbs. I hope someone grab those rits
because like they were. I think MO, I think the the
other sales guy. Because they were like ants in
his office. So I'm like that could have
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definitely like we left them open.
I'm sure it. Yeah, not our problem.
Not wrong the other one we bought the car from you so.
But yeah, so our old car was blue car because it was a blue
car, and now we have a green car.
So we'll have green car. Yeah, be good.
Unless we want to give it a different.
Name. No, it's green car.
OK, All right. Just.
Check what it is. But yeah, so that's big news.
(07:03):
What's going on with us? The big news in our life?
No. One no, no.
Yeah, someday with that no. The Bravo news at all.
And the India of it all. Yeah, watching this episode was
a little bit tough because knowing what's gone down with
Wendy is just. So if you have been living under
that Rock, You know the same onewhere you don't know about what
(07:24):
other things we said, like if you're living under a rock and.
I don't know. I don't.
Know anyways I've. Been living under a rock
apparently. I don't know what else we're.
Saying so you're under the rocks.
So basically on Friday, the newsbroke.
We were at home and we were liketexting each other, like, what
the hell for different rooms because we're those people.
But the fact basically that Wendy and Eddie were arrested
(07:45):
Thursday and about in regards toinsurance fraud.
So allegedly in my * Jones voicethey claim that they were robbed
last year before season 9 started filming and that they a
lot of handbags and jewelry got stolen what have you.
So they file insurance claims yadda yadda yadda.
(08:06):
Apparently the cops were suspicious from the get go
because it didn't seem like there was a break in and they
were monitoring them and they discovered that allegedly they
took the stolen good, the stolengoods back to she returned them
to the stores. Yes, aside from one ring which?
She was then later wearing in social media.
(08:27):
And wears in the season. Oh yeah.
So there's that. And then also that's, yeah,
there's, it's like you're sayingthey're committed insurance
fraud. And they got a.
False claim of robbery. And it was a whole press
conference on Friday with this. And there's like many, many,
(08:47):
many, like felonies. Yes, many charges, Charges.
Against yeah, so the the First things first is that the the the
mug shots made it look like it was fake.
I too, I was scrolling through Isaw it online.
I was like, is this like for Halloween?
Yeah, you know. Cuz yeah, it was giving me some.
What was it the US like? Us or someone was like that new
(09:08):
horror movie smile. Oh yeah, see that?
Because Wendy just had that weird smile that was.
It was a little eerie, like. Very eerie.
And almost like nervous laughter, but caught like in a
out of in a photo. And then the font, I realize now
after the fact, the font on the article I saw was the typical
TMZ headline stuff, but that just made it look extra fake,
(09:28):
very fake. So I was like, and then with the
other things that, you know, we've been seeing around lately
of, you know, so and so get a divorce, you know, wasn't wasn't
your friend saying they saw. Oh, there was.
Something dumb on Facebook. Yeah, I was thinking about.
Shamia. It was assuming that she filed
for like hers and filed for bankruptcy and all this stuff.
But like, it wasn't, it wasn't reputable.
(09:49):
Yeah, yeah. So like, so obviously, yeah, I
had to check to make sure this was real.
And it it was. And I was like, oh, that's
awful. I I I just hate it because I
like Wendy a lot. We like Wendy a lot A.
Lot. And especially on the show, she
seemed to be like the most levelheaded one of the bunch.
And really, I think it gets crapped on a lot by, you know,
(10:10):
fans and Co workers alike. And it just, it just sucks that
this is happening or that they might have done this and that
they could both be going to jail.
And you feel for their three young children and just, you
know, it's just it's very surprising.
Of all the people who I would thought this would happen to
(10:30):
across any of the housewives. It was not windy.
Yeah. It just seems so like she has
four degrees. He's a lawyer.
You know, they've started this business which they claimed was
doing very well, but apparently it was not doing very well.
Yeah. So it's like this other.
So it's it's that sad. It's also this idea of with
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housewives of trying to maintainthis front, like we're so rich.
We have so much all these thingsand trying to be relevant and
have the status because it's supposed to be an aspirational
show and you're faking it, you know, and it sucks.
It's like that. You have to feel like you need
to do that in order to stay on the show, you know, and it just.
(11:16):
Yeah, I mean, who knows if that.I mean, that's probably has.
I can't see how that wouldn't play a part in their motivation
behind it. But I mean, they could have.
They could have very well just needed money for, you know,
happy Eddie or for someone. That.
Could be or for keeping the business going a little longer.
And, you know, it's always one of those, well, I guess there's
no way you're going to pay back insurance fraud.
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But it's always one of those things where it's, you know, the
road to hell is paid with best intentions.
And she spent all that money on her talk show and she left her
position at right college. And So what, where was the money
coming in from? And maybe it wasn't enough.
And that's what they did to. And also, I'm sure their kids
are all in private schools and they have a huge house.
(11:58):
So it's it's a lot of, it's a lot to maintain.
And it seems that maybe they didn't have the money to do so.
And so they resorted to. This, I mean, it's it's hard to
I mean, I don't want to even saydefend this because it's
indefensible, but you know, the thing that I'm going to really
dislike the most is it's alreadyhappening is how how mean
(12:21):
Ashley's been about it and how kind of smug it's going to let
Ashley and Giselle and all the. Others.
Be about this. Well, it's ironically, you know,
Giselle and when you're the best, the best, best, best place
they've been in since when they started on the show.
So if this has happened two seasons ago, Giselle would have
yes, definitely like break over the cold.
So I'm curious to see what Giselle's reaction will be.
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And also it's really funny how like Ashley is like, you know,
if you haven't seen, there was aclip of Ashley at a singing gig
one. Of her gigs?
Yes, one of her singing people. Still let her sing.
And you know, she like was like,oh, this is not news to us.
We've been known. And like, you know, she made the
whole Zens going to the pen. And it's like, girl, like, you
(13:05):
don't know the full story, but also why are you so happy?
Yeah. For someone else's downfall.
Yeah, you. Know I mean I I get and that's
The thing is maybe they've neverreally made it the storyline
that Wendy is fake or you know that she's you know pretending
to be something that she's not they.
Never seem like she's snobby andpretentious and condescending to
(13:27):
the other women. Right.
So I don't know, like what like when Ashley says, oh, we've
always known about this. It's like, I mean.
Whatever you know. Maybe you've known something
doesn't seem right, but you've never there.
But I think it doesn't. This doesn't somehow vindicate
Ashley in the world of housewives.
Be like I do it all along. I was saying it.
Is it? No, you're just being messy and
(13:48):
mean and kicking someone when they're down.
It's not like she was your nemesis this entire time.
And so you've had right to be like, you know, she tried to get
me and now, like, you know, she's the one who's the bad one.
And this isn't like a Tamara Gretchen situation.
Yeah. You know, So I don't understand,
like, why she was just so like full of Glee and like just
singing about it. Basically.
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She should not sing. And it's just it's just weird.
Like, you feel. I'm not.
I don't know her, but it seems you only someone who is
miserable would be happy about someone else's memory misery.
Right. Right.
So I don't understand that. Yeah.
And it just it's. Especially you're both mothers.
(14:29):
Do you want this right, right, right.
You know someone I say like whenwhen he should have committed
the crime allegedly, but still like this is the mother being
taken away from her kids, right,potentially and you're just like
and then. A pun and also on top of it to
be like Zen Zen Wen's gone to the pen.
It's like, no, she got bail. She's she's sitting at home
right now and she's there. She's not up at the, you know,
(14:50):
the state pen. She's if anything.
You've got this thing saying yeah.
Exactly. So yeah, it's just, it's grosses
me out. And like, the same thing.
You know, if you had a friend who got into legal trouble, like
truly a friend, like you would want the best for that.
You know, you'd want, you know, even if they've made a mistake,
you would still, like, hope thatyou know by for whatever reason,
(15:14):
logical or not, that it's not true.
And then when you find out it istrue, then you know, you go from
there and it's like, again, theymake such a big deal out of
supporting each other and like you're supporting well, it's.
Supporting women, Yeah, it's such BS.
Yeah, it's not women supporting women.
It's maybe in other groups, but like not in this group.
Yeah, I don't, I don't like it. But you know, I mean, I I can't,
(15:37):
you know, you want to say innocent until proven guilty,
but it seems like they've done they're good, built a good case
against Wendy and Eddie. So it's unfortunate, but she's
not the first housewife to make a mistake like this.
It's, you know, a serious crime for sure.
But you know, it's she wasn't defrauding old people.
It's not a Ginshaw situation. And yeah, she wasn't taking
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advantage and putting people's lives in danger.
It's a pure case of greed, whichabsolutely sucks.
And she has to take accountability for it, and she
should. If she did these things, if they
both do those things, then they need to pay the price for it.
But I'm not going to be, even ifit was somebody who was like, if
it was Ashley, who I don't like very much, I wouldn't be like,
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yeah, she's going to be like that.
That's unfortunate. Shouldn't have done that.
But I'm not gonna do a cartwheel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm, you know, it, it
concerns me how this is going toaffect the rest of the season.
You, you thought of something I hadn't thought of.
And especially now that they've cancelled the first episode of
the Wife Swap because it's episode.
(16:43):
But you were saying like maybe go back and re edit some of this
season of Potomac just to maybe make Wendy less present in it,
kind of do what they did with Kenya last season on Atlanta,
you know? Well, that was like all together
like taking her out and I think they will do that, but maybe
some because they always they always talk about the scenes of
being cuts. Maybe they'll be even more so
right What her story was going to be this year, right.
(17:05):
It's like from renting her houseso.
Oh well, so that's not gonna. Be AI know.
That's not a good sign. Yeah, and with the the whole
white swap of it all, I get why they cancelled that episode
because it was about, you know, her family and and you know the.
The the decadent life that they live.
Versus like the, you know, not so much what the other family
(17:27):
she's swapping with. So it's just it's awkward for
everybody. Yeah, so I get that.
But it's something to be. Most awkward for Bravo, like for
sure kind of showing that you know, hey.
Well, that's the thing too. It's like you have to think, you
know, Bravo, these women feel compelled to have these rich
lives because that's what gets them on the show and keeps them,
keeps them on the show. So is BB's not telling you to
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cheat and lie and steal to have this rich life, but like, you
feel like you have to maintain that in order to be relevant on
Bravo. So it's like this snake eating
its tail situation. Is that the right way to?
Yeah. I think so, yeah.
I mean, it's, it's not a, it's not a, it's not difficult to get
to that conclusion or infer thatfrom, you know, what they kind
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of expect you to do. I mean, hopefully it doesn't
come down to that. I mean, as far as I, I, I hope
that whatever happens, I don't know.
I, I don't think it goes well for Wendy.
I don't think she's going to be coming back based on this alone.
Like, I, it's so weird because so many other housewives have
done so much worse and kind of come back.
But I just think that Wendy's kind of been on a downward
(18:33):
trajectory as far as storyline. And then I think this is just
going to be like, well, it's easier for us to part ways.
A lot of people turned against her too, like after her first
season and she like got the, youknow, the glow up right, Right.
They felt that, oh, she's pretentious and she like, thinks
she's better than everybody and,you know, whatever.
And, you know, you've heard likemy sister Danielle.
See, I'll talk kind of about shedoesn't like her, so you.
Texted your sister about this. I am not.
(18:54):
Oh, you should. I want.
You should. I texted my my Leslie.
Yeah, but not Danielle. Danielle.
No, but. Get her on the phone.
Give me an opinion. Yeah.
So yeah, other words but. And it's, it's just, it's
unfortunate all around. Like, and I guess again, I
really liked Wendy. I liked that she was a little
(19:15):
bit snobby. And I like that she's, you know.
Has those 4° and is afraid to tell you about it.
Well, and also that she would just kind of like, all right,
Giselle, whatever, like and that's where she seems to be
even in this episode. Just be like, OK, if you're
going to say that winner is not going to bother me, you know,
And that's what I like about heris that she's not putting
herself into business. That really doesn't affect her.
(19:36):
Like the whole with this episode, you know, Qiana has a
beef with her and like she's just like, well, that's A1 sided
thing. Like I'm not staying up at night
worrying. Right, right.
And that's what I like. That's generally been her
attitude of like, OK, if you want to have a problem with me,
go ahead. I'm not going to waste my time
because this is nothing, you know?
It's all. I think it's worse, like when
you're aggressively coming at her, you know?
Yeah. Like when Robin and Giselle like
(19:59):
were throwing out the rumors about Eddie cheating and the
Nah. That season, you know yes then
she's like you're coming for my husband for my family and then
you know, but this like BS with Kiara and she's like, I don't
know what you're doing and I don't want any part of it right
right next right basically so next let's.
Yeah. Next, moving on to this episode,
(20:20):
this seemed to be the real time we get to meet more of Angel and
Tia. Yes.
Right. I prefer right now Angel.
I like Angel and I like her husband.
That whole scene of them eating,they seem very real and normal
and like he actually seems engaged with her, like and
interested in talking to her. By the way, if you know how to
(20:40):
make a cat not scratch couches. As we watch is it?
Yeah. Hey, mother.
Hey Kitty, Get out of there. Thanks for listening to us
discipline our cat. We have a couch up here that's
kind of a hand me down couch. You can scratch the crap out of
that, but we we probably. The one discourage it, yeah, the
one downstairs is like is. Not we got those little plastic
things coming and we're going tolive like we're, you know, live
(21:02):
in a, you know, cat house, I guess.
Anyway, in a cat house. I really enjoyed Angel and her
husband. I just liked also their whole,
you know, their whole lives seemreally good and.
I I don't know. I know they had family out here.
Obviously the show was out here.I would not have left Colorado.
That house looked gorgeous. You know, like they had a whole.
(21:25):
They still have a business out there.
You, I mean, you called it. I mean, they're just, they're
just renting in there to be backhere for the show, like.
Right. Because I think if things don't
go, yeah, she she's like, no, wedon't want to do this anymore or
Bravo's like, no, we don't want you to do this anymore.
They can go back to that amazinghouse in Colorado.
Yeah. So I would have stayed there
like. And it also seems like I don't
know much about the, you know, I'm sure you can get out in kind
(21:47):
of the sticks in, you know, the Potomac area, but I don't think
they're going to find land the way that they.
Are. No, not like that, No.
Yeah, I know. If that's a priority where he's
at least being realistic, like maybe 2 acres and she's like 5
acres. I was like, you're not.
I don't think you're going to find that unless you're going to
out in the middle of BFE. So yes.
But you know, we'll see. Yeah.
(22:10):
I, we're, I'm just gonna stick with her, her party.
I think that other women were being kind of too.
They're they're being bitches about it.
They're just being a little too like, man, man, man, man like.
I'm gonna call you one bitch. You're being bitchy about it
that. Is that better?
I'm just saying like, you know, also, I'm sorry, Giselle walks
(22:30):
into this woman's house and starts disrespecting the vibe of
her house. Like the whole party was
supposed to be like tranquility and like, we're just going to
hang out. And then just Giselle walks in
there and is just like, being loud and boisterous.
Like even saying like, you know,we're not supposed to raise our
voices. And she's like, Oh, well, you
know, it's a housewife. Yeah, yeah.
Then it's like I think Angel is a different vibe because she's
(22:53):
this sounds horrible and shady but I'll say it, she seems
actually generally happy. Yeah.
Yeah, compared to these other women and she's really chill and
she comes from like they like a nature chill kind of vibe.
And so they don't understand that in Potomac.
And so they were like, what are you doing?
Why are we doing a sound bath and trust we don't?
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No one need sound bath. I was calling, I was calling it
a Silkwood sound bath because no, we don't need.
I'd rather have a Silkwood shower than another sound bath.
Sound. But again, that'd be like
walking up to someone you just met and just being all like,
you're stupid, you like this man, like.
And that's pretty much how it seemed Giselle was being and
(23:36):
even the some of the other night.
At the party, eat the food. It looked really good.
Yeah. You know, amazing chill.
You're not being asked to do anything.
And then she also, like, disruptlike started stuff right away,
like. So what's the thing with you and
Kay? It's like, yeah.
And then not what this is about.This is a tranquil.
I know. But yeah, it's all you show.
I don't know. It just seemed very, very rude
(23:57):
to me. Like in a way that I couldn't
even comprehend doing. Like even to someone I really,
really found irritating. Yes.
I don't think I could just show up at their house and just start
like. Start mess.
Yeah, and just just like crapping over what they think is
the way to have a party, you know, it's like.
Yeah, she didn't like, you know,expect, expect you to like, you
know, commit 100% and like, you know, do your own sound bath in
(24:18):
your own everyday life, which isright.
This is what I want to do. Just I'm like, you know, nice,
tranquil a past the stone. Yeah, she she didn't expect you
to get up and do it was Stacey scream out your fire demon or
whatever the hell that. Was they say like thank God I've
saved this party. Whatever I got us though, so I
was just Samantha so. Earlier in the episode, Giselle
(24:40):
went over to Kiarnas and and they that's where Karen had told
her that like she had to chin check Angel.
Which which metaphorically so like you didn't like.
You didn't lay hands. I mean no you.
Didn't lay hands and there was something stupid, yeah, like she
was taking. She was basically playing
devil's advocate, right? Which I don't necessarily love
(25:00):
all the time. I.
Don't know you're talking about.And saying like maybe like when
you this, maybe that maybe like there's a reason why there was
friction between the you 2 and Kay was like, no, you're my
friend, be on my side. And it's like, okay girl, OK,
and then. When she doesn't have, I don't
know, the spine to to stay come with that same energy.
(25:21):
When Giselle brings it out, it'slike, you know you were
posturing for Giselle because you're want to give Giselle the
energy she wants for being on the show.
Like if you're going to do that,then when Giselle brings it back
to you in front of this person, you.
Need instead of being I forgot that I said shin check.
OK, yeah, Shin check is a very. I'd never heard it before.
(25:41):
I've heard it, but it's not something you hear all the time,
so. She has never heard it, that's
for sure. She has never heard a lot of
things, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah.
What? Language, all they're speaking.
So. So it was just.
It was a dumb fight. Yeah.
Glad I didn't go beyond that. And like, Cage, like, we've been
friends 20 years, OK. You've been friends 20 years.
(26:02):
So just like you then. Yeah.
You know, she's not coming at you.
She defended you at Ashley's just to glow up blue, Marty.
So like, I don't get why. Yeah, playing Devil.
It's actually. She wants to get Giselle's favor
and. Also, what else has Kay got
going? On yeah, true.
And then that will bring me to Tia, which we got to meet her a
(26:26):
little bit more. And her myriad children.
Right, four children. Four children there's.
A lot of children. There's Giselle going over to
Tia. 'S yes, I.
Don't know why I thought it was Wendy for a second, but it was
because she's like, oh, I met a twin mother, you know, they've
been through it. Fruit and fruit.
It's like footballers wives. Did you ever watch football?
No, no. Oh, so good.
(26:46):
So good. Yeah.
So I said this to Jeff. Tia reminded me of Kim Coles
doing a bit. Like Kim Coles playing Sinclair,
playing English. Yes.
Because it just seemed like, Is that really how you speak?
And I'm, I, I, you know, and I, that's the one thing that I
also, I, I, I hate falling into that kind of stereotype of
(27:08):
everyone hears that British accent and thinks that
everyone's just so immediately smart and posh and da, da, da,
well. You say also lead with like, I'm
royalty, Yeah, like I'm the latest of some Prince in
Nigeria, you know? Yeah.
And then so like, the accent does throw, you know, does throw
us because we're American. But I'm sure, you know, if we
were English, we'd be like, whatever, it's an accent.
(27:28):
But it's very, it's funny when people do a British accents
either like very posh like that or it's like, you know.
Like Govna, you know, yes, Shannon Bedor version.
So yeah, I mean, I thought, I thought it was lovely.
I liked her attitude. I think she is doing a good job
telling us that she grew up veryprivileged and very well spoiled
(27:53):
and pampered. Like her necklace means, you
know, pampered from the womb or whatever.
I could have without that and that her husband's from the
South S South side of Chicago try saying that three times
fast. And so they like level each
other out and with these four kids and yadda yadda yadda.
I don't, you know, I like not tocompare in contrast, but I just
(28:15):
felt like more connected. We've seen more of Angel, right.
And also like, you know, just like personal scenes that we
have, we've always seen Tia in relation to the other women.
True. So we have to get to know her
more and feel what her story is besides selling high end real
real estate. I mean, I think it, I think
it'll be interesting because, you know, again, I do like a
housewife that is richer than God and like really doesn't need
(28:38):
the money. And I do feel like that both
Angel and Tia do have that levelwhere they're just have more,
more money than they actually, you know, need or at least
access. To it that's kitchen seemed
really small to Richard Richard than God.
Well, true. All right, So maybe not that
much. And we also didn't see like the
full house, it just seemed like we were picking and choose any
like a full rundown of the house.
(28:59):
Need the tour? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll reserve that for later. Yeah, I'm going back, back over
to Angel a little bit. I do feel that it's possible and
maybe just my hope, but I do feel it's possible that if Angel
and Giselle or Ashley were to kind of butt heads that I, I
don't think that Angel would be nice about it.
I think she would know he would stand up for herself and just be
(29:21):
like y'all are crazy because you're just.
Well, we see like she's going upagainst somebody in the trailer.
I don't know who, but I don't I wouldn't.
She definitely had said she's cool and she seems down to
earth. But I think if you mess with
her, she will like come at you, like don't go there, right,
right. So that's why she's like, no one
shouldn't check me. I don't do that.
(29:42):
Like I could see her. It's like swatting Kiara down
like a family. We should talk about the third
friend in the room, Cookie. Oh my gosh, like I I OK cookie.
I mean, I she was in the first part of the episode.
She's in the at the party too, right?
The bloom. Party.
She's the Bloom party because Giselle rolled up to her and
said, yeah, you know, it's Karen's birthday coming up,
(30:03):
whatever. I, I, I like that she's kind of
our outlet, you know, our Kim, our, our Karen update, you know?
Right. Well, it's coming out like Joe
said. I understand that Karen is only
talking to a few people and it'sit's strategic and, you know,
whatever. And it's basically Cookie, Ray
and Raven. Yeah, Yeah.
And her son. So totally makes sense.
(30:26):
But yeah, I mean, we'll get to the end part.
But like, yeah, Cookie, there was a lot of cookie.
Yeah, I well, and then a lot of cookie.
They even made the joke about their about her her cookies.
Like the the camera was like a zoom.
Because Ashley made that joke. Yeah, I saw all three of you.
So. Like, calm down, cameraman.
(30:48):
Yeah, yeah, let me get that. Let me get that zoom going.
So, yeah, but I mean, it's good.Good to know that they went to
that restaurant and all about the French toast.
Oh, I want to go to Thai Ho's now.
I want some French toast to lookreally good and like it's a cute
little like it's a small. Diner Place.
Yeah, so I don't know why Kiara was wearing sequins.
(31:09):
Like she's like dripping in sequins.
Right. And like her in her.
Yeah. What else did we?
See. Like divorced, not divorced.
I don't care. I just like Stacey.
Carry on. Yeah, I.
Don't like? Yeah, I don't like the way in
which Giselle pretended to be above it all at like, whatever,
(31:31):
I'm over this. Like it's not relevant to me
anymore because I don't want it.Well.
Because Giselle knows she's not going to break her, which I
really like. Stacey is sticking to her truth.
Her truth and she's not going tomove away from that.
So that's why I was like, that'swhy she said like I don't care
anymore because I'm not going toshake her and she also isn't
(31:54):
going to rile her up. I think Stacey calling Ashley
the devil is as close as we've got to think Stacey like get
riled up, which is pretty low key roll up.
So that's why I think Giselle moved on from it.
But yeah, whatever she's got sneaky breath.
Let's if I was her, I would get my agent on the phone and be
like I need to do like Outwitz commercial something so I can
(32:16):
make money off of this. And be like, thanks Ash.
Exactly, and still have more money than Ashley.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, we got to see Ashley getting
ready for the White House Correspondents dinner and that
dress with her sister over. Rights.
That seems to be maybe part of her story or sister being yeah
or whatever. Probably to help take care of
the kids I'm assuming. Rights right, which is going to
(32:38):
college. I didn't realize that Dylan was
so red headed that that kid had some red hair.
Very much so. Both cute, cute kids.
Thank you. Considering their fathers,
Michael Barb, yes, but. Yeah, and then Josh, her other
child, I mean, boyfriend, booty call, whatever.
(32:58):
I don't know. I always stuck with dude from
Love Hotel. Well, you you like older men.
That's two years older. Well, yeah, I mean every like
old men smaller than that I'm sure.
Not like you were a daddy chaseror anything like.
That. No, that's just.
We weren't like a new. Some of the daddies.
(33:19):
Sorry, we're we're getting all inside jokey here with people
that you guys don't. Know have it like forever a day
I'm OK with that you. Just send a link to the podcast.
I tried to invite him to the wedding and he was like blah
blah blah I'm in Australia. Yeah, well, I'd stay in
Australia too if I could, but yeah, it was kind of neat.
Ashley looked really good. That dress was.
Really good. Whatever.
(33:42):
End of sentence. Josh.
Yeah, she was like very pretty. Yeah.
Service is a crank and would saybeautiful gowns.
Amazing. She was like holding on to his
hand though. Yeah, he was not let that thing
go. Like, can he just drive?
Yeah. Like she's like.
And I don't need their little like double entendre like and
then. The white sheets Who has white
(34:02):
sheets and outside of a hotel? Yeah, I don't know.
I like some color on my sheets. Yeah, I agree.
And our Porsche pampered by Porsche sheets.
None of them are whites. No, they're not.
We maybe should get a set. White sheet that's like inside
the maturity. Apparently.
I thought that was white underwear.
I thought for sure she was goingto go rag him about his shoes.
That the cameraman. Zoomed in on.
(34:24):
And they showed. But then what was the other
thing she said he needed to do? Oh no product in his hair like
first. Off.
He's a little sideshow, Bobby. He is, but I mean, I'm sure
without all that product it's even crazier.
You know, that's what I'm saying.
It's a very it's a little sideshow.
But at the same time, like you're an older woman, don't be
telling him how to like that just seems very mothering and it
(34:45):
just creeps me out a little bit.Like I would never just be all
like mentoring the person that I'm dating mentoring so weird
Let. Me give you some advice, kid?
Yeah. Well, you're my age when you're
in lesbian as long as I've been.It's like not that much younger
than her, it's only like 5 or so.
Something like that. But I guess it's 20s, she's in
(35:07):
her 30s. Whatever.
Ashley's gonna Ashley. Yeah, that's true.
There's something oh, Stacey bringing up.
So what Giselle was over was Giselle was Stacey, you know,
showing something, a document itself.
I was like, whatever, she made that up.
If she says she's divorced letter be divorced.
How's it affecting? I know, I like that.
(35:29):
I actually tried to explain thatlike you know, it's, you know
very much about principle and. Girl, girl, you were on the
wrong show if you're very about principle, okay?
Like we're not about principle here.
You. No, and also like I, I mean, I
guess where you're right, Giselle's not like Stacey's not
going to admit to it. She didn't has yet to admit to
paying TJ, which they seem to have gotten this, you know, all
(35:50):
the smoking guns they could for that and she's still like
whatever, I don't know what you're talking.
About also the track that she that she took of like, I don't
know what you're talking about, so how can I speak on it?
Brilliant. Yeah.
Yeah. Because also you can't show her
your receipts because you saw them allegedly at the essence
like fair festival, what have you and and now but you didn't
(36:13):
take a screenshot so you can't say like this is the document
saying that TJ is suing her. Well, until they're re
explaining it. Also, I was just like, that
story doesn't sound very legitimate of like.
So here you are at this essence ball, right?
You're just here at this event and someone walks up to you and
they call I've been looking for you.
Let me show you these documents like you either knew that person
(36:33):
was going to be there. They knew you were going to be
there. That had to have been
coordinated. There's just no, I don't.
I don't care how, I don't care how random their lives are.
Small, worldly it is. No one's going to be all like
Ashley Darby. Boy, did you?
And why did you sit down at the right table today?
Let me show you something you know.
Also, too, it's like, so just because she's best friends with
(36:54):
TJ, he sent her that document? Like, I don't understand.
Yeah, the chain of events and whatever.
Just messy, messy, messy. It's it's.
I don't care. But yeah, I hope, I hope Ashley
takes a page from Giselle and just says let's move on past
this. But no, now she's trying a
different way. Now she's saying that like she
(37:15):
heard and that's the last scene.Italia host.
Oh right, I heard that that Stacey's trying to get Chris
Samuels who is her friend Monique AKA one of the best like
Potomac housewives there's been.You know my friend Monique, the
one who was on the show for fiveyears.
Yeah, you know her. You know my friend.
So they got divorced since when he's been off the show.
(37:38):
And so Ashley is saying that herfriend said to her that Stacy
was trying to get Chris's information from this friend.
Maybe she was looking at him to be ATJ, you know, she was to pay
him to be her her boyfriend lastseason.
Chris says like football money. Well, you know, you can always
use more. I mean no one says no to more
money. I mean what the ask is?
(38:02):
I mean. Can can you explain to me why
Cookie, it would seem very weird.
Cookie got a text. Oh, it's from Chris.
Chris who? Chris Samuels.
Oh, thank you. Chris Samuels.
What the hell is that about? Are you not, like, how scripted
are you? Yeah, Like, oh, well, now that
you've brought up Chris Samuels,now we have a good.
I didn't. She didn't.
We didn't even need that. She could have just said, like,
you know, at my balloon ball, I heard this thing.
(38:24):
Right, Stacey. There was a way to bring that
around I didn't need. Cookie.
Now I want to know why Cookie and Chris Samuels are texting
together like I'm. Well, because like, Karen was
good friends with Monique. And OK.
Chris so makes sense, Cookie Karen's good for I don't know,
I. Mean I will.
I'll go with that. We'll see.
Like you know, Cookie must know Cherise and Cherise was the one
(38:46):
who brought Monique on the show,so I don't.
And then they turned on each other.
But whatever, it was just. Again, I don't care.
I don't need a Stephanie a Stephanie.
I don't need a Stacey. Gotcha season.
Like yes, they're just move on. They're throwing everything at
her, trying to make it stick. And she's just like, and now
we're going to see, well, I'm glad we're going to see Monique
(39:07):
next week. She's now a friend of and
they're going to sit down for dinner and really hash this out.
And I, I hope it doesn't go the way that we expected to go with
like Monique getting pissed off,like you're going after my
ex-husband. Like if I was thinking, I'd be
like, I know how how she operates.
I know how Giselle operates. I know how this show operates.
I'm not going to make this my thing.
(39:27):
So and also and it's her ex-husband.
If it's your ex, you'd be like go ahead and have him right?
Right. That is, that is used Good.
Exactly, like he's her ex for a reason, right?
Like she's not trying to get back with him like.
Stacey's feeding. Her ex and we don't know the
timeline of like TJ and Chris and whatever, Yeah.
It's just, it's just dumb. It seems like a reach.
(39:50):
Like I don't know why they're soobsessed with Stacey.
I mean. Why they're so focused on
Stacey? Oh, I know they don't have
storylines, right? Yes.
They don't have anything on their own to talk about.
But also they just I mean I never really wanted to think it
was true. Like I never understood why they
were always so anti. No anti Wendy, like I didn't.
(40:14):
And then anti Candace. Yeah.
But like, they really do try to ice people out.
They really like play, producer and casting.
Yeah, if they don't want to sit at, you know, the the cool girls
table with Giselle, if they haveno interest in that, then then
they want to if you're. Not going to bow down or play
the game. The Giselle Giselle wants you to
play the game and now Ashley, because Ashley is like the new
(40:35):
Robins Giselle. Then you're going to be iced out
and it's so dumb. That's not what this show is
about, right? It's about like, you have
friction naturally, not like, why friction?
She said. Something wrong to me now?
I'm gonna like get rid of. Her and really, if we start
talking about the numbers, sheernumbers, we're gonna play this
like it's, you know, traitors orsomething.
Really it's just Ashley and Giselle now with a little bit of
(40:55):
Kiarna like kind of on this team, like mean girl thing.
Because like, Wendy doesn't care, right?
Angel and TR are too new, right?And then who else is there?
There isn't. There isn't.
Are they behind me? Who's behind me?
Who else is there? Have I missed nobody else?
Yeah, well cuz we're on the 8:00.
Games. So I guess the majority of the
(41:17):
cast is on Giselle's whole game,but you know, without Wendy and
then the new girls that. I think Tia will be on the side
because she's Giselle's friend. I think she will be like, oh, I
think Stacey's lying too. Yeah.
I just. I don't.
Why do you care so much? She is, again, she's not lying
on you, Right? Stop trying to get this whole
idea of like we care about it integrity or principles because
(41:39):
you don't because you were married to Michael frickin
Darby, the biggest liar. I'm on grinder doucheface that
has ever been seen on housewivesso.
He's the biggest doucheface on housewife.
Not the biggest, not on Potomac.OK, All right.
Like there's still, there's still Slade that's a.
Competition. No, Slade, I think is probably
the biggest douche doucheface, but like, you do not care about
(42:02):
integrity when you've been married for so many years to
that man. Yeah.
So just hush. Yeah.
So I also, I think that if they were to just focus on something
else, if if Stacy's as big of a liar as they make her out to be,
she will go ahead and trip herself.
Up exactly. So many other things let.
Her lies will always come out. It will always come out.
(42:23):
Let her do it to herself insteadof trying to get her, get her,
get her every time, right? It's tiresome.
Right, because apparently you allegedly played the long game
with Wendy because you knew all along and now this has come out.
Yeah. So the smugness is going to be
so. Awful.
This smugness Giselle is so her smugness.
The Bravo con panel is gonna, because they're both gonna be
(42:44):
like, smug, smug. Yeah and Giselle's not even
gonna say anything about it. She's just to be like smug and
not say anything about how she knew or whatever.
She's gonna have 0 details make it seem like she knows.
All shade about, you know, and whatever.
So lame. Is Robin gonna be it?
Yeah, she is. Well, I think because of
traders. Oh, Oh, yeah, yeah.
(43:06):
That's. Whatever I was.
Going to say. I think I hear you have to pay
$20 though to get into her panel.
And it ain't worth it. Yeah, sorry.
Go behind that pay wall, honey. Not paying it.
There was a scene with Wendy andStacey in the trailer Where?
Where Stacey's like. I have to admit that I lied.
(43:28):
And I thought that it was going to be her saying about the
cannabis thing. Yeah, Yeah.
But she didn't say it like, I wonder, like I clearly, unless
it was a Frankenbite, she was like, I have to tell you that I
lied in at the reunion. So I don't know what that was
about. But in any case, the fact that
she she just said like I got theidea from you right, because you
(43:51):
didn't have the idea before you made that's.
Why I like Wendy's so much is that she's like, OK, you have
the business, good for you. Also, she's like, we're trying
to work on our friendship, so I'm like, not going to be like,
what the hell, right? What the hell with Eddie?
Happy Eddie or happy Stacy? And what the hell with like, now
I'm back with my husband and this weird timeline with TJ.
Yeah, she's like, I'm letting that go, you know, and just
(44:13):
moving forward. Because also like, it doesn't
change anything. It's not like, oh, you're mad at
me because I have my own cannabis line.
I'll shut down today like. Right.
And it's also like Stacy's not trying to like, steal Eddie's
workers. That whole scene with Giselle
meeting with that dude who just happened to be there.
And so like, oh, you Remember Me?
I was the one who said that Stacy approached me.
I told her hell no, I don't wantto work with you.
(44:34):
I didn't need that. I don't need this pylon.
Don't make this a thing like Orange County with with Katie,
like you don't want to do that. But these women, they're not
seeing it. They're so because.
It's what's worked for them every time.
Right, and they're not seeing like when they're in it, it must
be like, oh, this is going to play so well on our but like
(44:56):
when you what? And also, given their history of
ICE people out, it's like, do you not see what you're doing?
Well, I mean that that's I thinknothing could be if they keep
icing people out and they keep trying to do the same thing.
I'm sure Bravo had a conversation what they're saying
like like, hey, you need to stopdoing this.
And if she's. Not a producer.
Does it again. Then I'm sure it's going to be
(45:17):
like, OK, well, we're going in adifferent direction, right?
Although Giselle, she'll be around forever.
Giselle was, yeah. Like, I don't know, I'd get to
compare her to, but yeah. I just feel like if you take
away all of her minions and it was just Giselle, maybe that
(45:37):
would be good. But like, as long as she's got
a, you know, a sidekick, I thinkshe's going to continue to do.
This she will protect Ashley because without Robin.
Right. Yeah.
Right. So it would be interesting
though to see, Yeah, like I willtake Ashley over Robin too.
I don't need Robin to come back,don't need it.
(45:58):
Don't really necessarily need Candace come back.
I think she should be happy and doing her own thing.
It's probably too much. I think we probably will be
losing Wendy given given how this goes.
I mean, I know that Jen Shaw shot a whole season after being
accused within the show to the reunion.
So I don't know. We have to wait to see how this
(46:18):
plays out. Whatever, whatever.
Yeah, it, I mean it could also, I mean, I could also see, and
this is pure conjecture, I couldalso see Wendy taking the the
line of I was just doing what myhusband told me to do,
especially because they have that e-mail from him and.
Oh, that's so bad to like. Get towards their insurance
maximum which does not look goodbut.
(46:40):
Do they have the same exact samecharges or I feel like they're a
little bit different? I think they're different
because they don't have as much evidence against him
specifically is the problem. Isn't when they both have filed
a a claim one and also both filethe reports to the police about
the robbery? Yeah, I would think so.
I don't know, I didn't read. I didn't read in great detail.
But I bet you the Bravo doc, it's gonna have some good info.
(47:01):
Yeah. So I'm sure I'll keep an eye out
for them when they when they have it.
So yeah, it'll be interesting tosee.
So overall good episode it. Was fine.
I mean, I thought I like last week's bit better, but I think
it's whatever. They all can't be amazing.
I'm probably just excited that I'm awake right now for a Sunday
night that I took that little nap did.
(47:22):
You take that little nap. It was like a nap, hey.
Buying a car is tough, okay. So you're on a dealership is
rough y'all? So rough.
It's a it's, it's, it's a like athird world country.
They need a vending machine. They need a vending machine.
They do. They kept offering me coffee.
I'm like, how much coffee do youthink I need?
It's 12:00 in the afternoon. I'm like, I'm going to be
buzzing around here and I would have just gotten jittery and
(47:44):
passed out on their desk. It would have been awful.
But yeah, no, no. I just think that I don't know,
I really liked, I liked Angel a lot.
Yes, I feel like good warm feeling.
Right. And I feel like the the new
ladies are giving good. I think if positioned correctly,
(48:04):
if the editors don't edit them into oblivion, I think they will
be a good addition to the show And I think they can do enough
hopefully have enough going on that because Karen does not have
enough going on kind of sway thependulum her way.
But I think these two might. It's funny.
I feel like I feel like Angel has the ability to eclipse
Kiana. Oh yeah.
(48:25):
Oh yeah. Which would be interesting
because I would, I wouldn't. But I think she could also have
the ability to be like, I'm not going to put much effort into
this because I got a 2 million or $4 million house in Colorado.
I want to get back to, you know,well, they bought it for two,
but then they it's. Probably worth like so.
OK, so pretty. So pretty.
You've talked about like. I love Colorado.
(48:45):
Yeah, you like Denver? I love Denver, Co is the most
California State outside of California I've ever been to.
It just Denver itself is like a feels like California.
I've never been. I'd be curious about it.
Not in, but that's the cold weather though.
But it doesn't stick there. I mean it's.
Not like Chicago. Yeah, it's not like Chicago.
(49:05):
I mean, it does get cold and there is a winter and everything
and it does get damn ass cold. But like it's not, you know,
you, it's not the worst. It's not you're not getting like
lake and snow, ice, stuff like that.
But yeah, we would leave California.
But I always think like, you know, if we were to, what would
be like a good alternative? So yeah.
I do Denver. So anyway, we're rambling now.
Yeah. So the next week's episode, I,
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you know, it looked a little messy.
I didn't know what they're trying to get for Get To with
that preview, just other than Chris Samuels and Monique.
Well, they show up. So yes, it's it's going to be
the pride episode. We're Ashley.
Oh, that. Makes her drag king thing again
and then Monique shows up and then they go to dinner and the
whole Chris Samuels of it all and whatever.
That'll be interesting. I'm just glad Monique's back.
(49:48):
I really enjoyed Monique when she was on the show, curiously,
like how she's changed, you know, post divorce and whatnot.
And yeah. Has she got a groove back?
All right, we'll, we'll talk about that next.
Time until next time, her groove.
Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott. And I'm Jeff.
And we just watched the episode of The Real Housewives of
Potomac. Sure, Episode 2 season 10.
Season 10 ought to be an easy one to remember.
Season 10. 10 That's good. 10s Tens, 10s.
Yeah, I'm happy that Miami's reunion final episode is this
week because I couldn't get one less thing to remember.
It'll be. So 1 less housewives show until
(00:37):
we get. Beverly Hills, Yeah, exactly so.
And then people are right. Bravo Con is right around the
corner. It really is.
It'll be 30 days as of Tuesday. Well, now that we've knocked
some things off our plate as faras things we need to take care
of, I'm I can focus on that a little.
More yes, for sure, and the wristbands are coming soon.
Yes, I won't delete any more emails.
(00:59):
No, I I found the e-mail. I just right, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I ordered some clothes a
while back and deleted, but might have been the shipping
confirmation. They never showed up, but you
know, I got to stop deleting things.
So, you know, you get too much crap in your inbox.
You're just like, delete, delete, delete.
I didn't spend an afternoon unsubscribing to like, you know,
those newsletters you. Get.
I like doing that too. Yeah, 'cause I'm just like, why
(01:19):
am I getting the same junk? Exactly.
And you're like, you know, you may be like what you bought from
a store, like right, But you don't need to be reminded every
four days. Buy something else.
Exactly. I get a Banana Republic e-mail
every day. Yeah, I don't need that.
Don't need that at all, No. So we've had a busy weekend.
We'll get to Potomac shortly, don't worry.
But we. And also the big news.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, we've had a busy
(01:43):
weekend. We officially adopted our cat,
Momo. Momo, if you haven't seen him,
in one of our most recent tick tocks with Jeff seating his.
I was wrong. Failed but.
Failed. I was just like off by a couple
on both sides. His Orange County seating chart
prediction so. Yeah, mine was better though.
Yeah, ice cream ears should have.
(02:03):
Been going to say they should have consulted me but you know,
whatever, it's OK, it's fine, we'll make do.
But yeah, Momo's right here. If I can pick him up without him
squirming in a bit, I will. But he's a big cat.
He's a big cat, He's a great, he's a big boy, he's sweet.
And he likes to claw furniture. Yeah, we're trying to get off
with that. You got him.
I got him. This is Momo.
(02:24):
Oh, Momo. He says, but yeah, oh, he's
going to jump off me and scar mewith his claws, I'm sure.
But yeah, he's a cute little boy.
We got him a friend, you know, Ithink we told the story.
Yeah, we did, yeah. Yeah.
So we officially, because we were trying it out like he
wasn't we were worried about himand Gabrielle are their cap and
now they're on they're they're in a good place.
(02:45):
Yep, they're playing they. Squash their beef they.
Squash their beef. Yeah, it was good.
They're playing, running around together.
So it's a good, it's a good situation using the Litter
Robot. It's yeah, yes.
We gotta work more on yeah, I gotta, hmm, we gotta just get
that older robot sponsorship. I could use.
We really should. We should promote this.
We've been using it for five years now.
Yeah, right. And we've, we've yeah, we've
(03:06):
converted many people, yes. So we'll, we'll, we'll work on
that. Yes.
And then we went to Sacramento yesterday, visited a good friend
of ours, Shannon. That was a fun time.
Who's been on the pod before? Yeah, she has.
Yeah. She expressed how she, like,
really, she's got opinions, But she was a little embarrassed the
first time we had her on the pod.
She didn't know, didn't know what to say.
But now that we've done some more kind of remote connections
with other pods, we could just do one with her.
(03:28):
You know, she lives in Sacramento.
We can just do it like a Zoom call.
She's got some opinions. A lot of opinions.
Yes, yes, yes. But yeah, Sacramento's about two
hours from us, so it's quite a trek.
It was a lot of drive. Yeah, it's a it's a drive.
But what's nice is like she always comes down here and which
is nice of her, but like, you know, we're used to doing stuff
around here. It was interesting to kind of
see and. I hadn't been to Sacramento
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since like 2016, and it's like, it's a cool place and we, you
know, yeah, there wasn't the best.
You had it. My dinner was great.
Yeah, I might. Sorry.
The place was great. My food wasn't like amazing I
mean, but yours was good. Because I had crab cake crusted
sea bass, which was the IT basically tasted like a fish
stick wrapped in in crab cake. It was delightful.
(04:11):
Delightful potatoes too. Yes, it was all around I
enjoyed. I had shoestring fries.
I hate shoestring fries. They're too thin.
You have to like put 4 together to make one real fry.
I don't understand the concept. I just want a full fry.
A real fry. And that's why you're more of a
steak fry guy. Exactly.
I see even the Wingstop fries wegot today for lunch better than
these shoestring. Wing stop.
(04:31):
They gave us like a pile of fries.
It was a pile of fry like are they frying?
Fry they competing Five guys forthe most number of fries.
It was, it was too much food. It was excuse.
Me and then yeah, today we went and we bought a car so.
Yes, after talking about it for like months and months talking
about the pod. I've been doing research upon
research like my entire like Facebook and Instagram feed is
(04:53):
nothing but like car ads and nowI get to tell them Nope bought 1
so. It's hard letting of our old car
because that was the first car we bought together and we got.
A little choked up, we did. It's so weird.
It's just like, it's an object, but it's like, you know, just
the same thing. If we moved out of this house,
it would be this first house we bought together.
It would be really tough to like, you know, there's so many
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memories and like road trips with a couple of Rd. trips, you
know, it's just it's it was a great car, but you know, wasn't
ultimately going to work for us long term for a few reasons.
Well, it's a. Volkswagen, they're very high
maintenance and there's some rumors that the year we had had
some ongoing maintenance troubles after a certain amount
of mileage. And we'd much rather instead of
spending to have it fixed, like a lot of money to have it fixed,
(05:36):
rather put that into a new car. So we had a new car, it's a
Hyundai, it's got the 100,000 mile warranty, all that stuff.
So we'd be a little less worriedabout driving it.
And, you know, I would just suck.
My biggest worry was that I would just suck that we're going
to be in the future with, you know, money spending elsewhere
and then not being able to afford a car.
So now it's going to be good to.Right away, something like.
Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's going to be reliable
(05:58):
forward thing and it's a hybrid.Oh, I get to be Californian
finally and be like, look at me,I'm saving the environment.
Californian. I know it's going to be great,
so. 405, yeah. But as everyone know, if you
haven't bought a car before in your life, it's not a fun
experience in that. Around a lot of two hour
experience. And they didn't have any, they
didn't have a vending machine there.
So we were getting we're so. Much time.
(06:21):
And the sales manager, he's like, oh, I got some crackers.
And he gave us like a thing of Ritz to eat, which is very nice
of him. I'm and we like, ate up those
Ritz, Yeah. That was it.
Saved my life at least. Ate left no crumbs.
Well, there were some crumbs. I hope someone grab those rits
because like they were. I think MO, I think the the
other sales guy. Because they were like ants in
his office. So I'm like that could have
(06:42):
definitely like we left them open.
I'm sure it. Yeah, not our problem.
Not wrong the other one we bought the car from you so.
But yeah, so our old car was blue car because it was a blue
car, and now we have a green car.
So we'll have green car. Yeah, be good.
Unless we want to give it a different.
Name. No, it's green car.
OK, All right. Just.
Check what it is. But yeah, so that's big news.
(07:03):
What's going on with us? The big news in our life?
No. One no, no.
Yeah, someday with that no. The Bravo news at all.
And the India of it all. Yeah, watching this episode was
a little bit tough because knowing what's gone down with
Wendy is just. So if you have been living under
that Rock, You know the same onewhere you don't know about what
(07:24):
other things we said, like if you're living under a rock and.
I don't know. I don't.
Know anyways I've. Been living under a rock
apparently. I don't know what else we're.
Saying so you're under the rocks.
So basically on Friday, the newsbroke.
We were at home and we were liketexting each other, like, what
the hell for different rooms because we're those people.
But the fact basically that Wendy and Eddie were arrested
(07:45):
Thursday and about in regards toinsurance fraud.
So allegedly in my * Jones voicethey claim that they were robbed
last year before season 9 started filming and that they a
lot of handbags and jewelry got stolen what have you.
So they file insurance claims yadda yadda yadda.
(08:06):
Apparently the cops were suspicious from the get go
because it didn't seem like there was a break in and they
were monitoring them and they discovered that allegedly they
took the stolen good, the stolengoods back to she returned them
to the stores. Yes, aside from one ring which?
She was then later wearing in social media.
(08:27):
And wears in the season. Oh yeah.
So there's that. And then also that's, yeah,
there's, it's like you're sayingthey're committed insurance
fraud. And they got a.
False claim of robbery. And it was a whole press
conference on Friday with this. And there's like many, many,
(08:47):
many, like felonies. Yes, many charges, Charges.
Against yeah, so the the First things first is that the the the
mug shots made it look like it was fake.
I too, I was scrolling through Isaw it online.
I was like, is this like for Halloween?
Yeah, you know. Cuz yeah, it was giving me some.
What was it the US like? Us or someone was like that new
(09:08):
horror movie smile. Oh yeah, see that?
Because Wendy just had that weird smile that was.
It was a little eerie, like. Very eerie.
And almost like nervous laughter, but caught like in a
out of in a photo. And then the font, I realize now
after the fact, the font on the article I saw was the typical
TMZ headline stuff, but that just made it look extra fake,
(09:28):
very fake. So I was like, and then with the
other things that, you know, we've been seeing around lately
of, you know, so and so get a divorce, you know, wasn't wasn't
your friend saying they saw. Oh, there was.
Something dumb on Facebook. Yeah, I was thinking about.
Shamia. It was assuming that she filed
for like hers and filed for bankruptcy and all this stuff.
But like, it wasn't, it wasn't reputable.
(09:49):
Yeah, yeah. So like, so obviously, yeah, I
had to check to make sure this was real.
And it it was. And I was like, oh, that's
awful. I I I just hate it because I
like Wendy a lot. We like Wendy a lot A.
Lot. And especially on the show, she
seemed to be like the most levelheaded one of the bunch.
And really, I think it gets crapped on a lot by, you know,
(10:10):
fans and Co workers alike. And it just, it just sucks that
this is happening or that they might have done this and that
they could both be going to jail.
And you feel for their three young children and just, you
know, it's just it's very surprising.
Of all the people who I would thought this would happen to
(10:30):
across any of the housewives. It was not windy.
Yeah. It just seems so like she has
four degrees. He's a lawyer.
You know, they've started this business which they claimed was
doing very well, but apparently it was not doing very well.
Yeah. So it's like this other.
So it's it's that sad. It's also this idea of with
(10:50):
housewives of trying to maintainthis front, like we're so rich.
We have so much all these thingsand trying to be relevant and
have the status because it's supposed to be an aspirational
show and you're faking it, you know, and it sucks.
It's like that. You have to feel like you need
to do that in order to stay on the show, you know, and it just.
(11:16):
Yeah, I mean, who knows if that.I mean, that's probably has.
I can't see how that wouldn't play a part in their motivation
behind it. But I mean, they could have.
They could have very well just needed money for, you know,
happy Eddie or for someone. That.
Could be or for keeping the business going a little longer.
And, you know, it's always one of those, well, I guess there's
no way you're going to pay back insurance fraud.
(11:37):
But it's always one of those things where it's, you know, the
road to hell is paid with best intentions.
And she spent all that money on her talk show and she left her
position at right college. And So what, where was the money
coming in from? And maybe it wasn't enough.
And that's what they did to. And also, I'm sure their kids
are all in private schools and they have a huge house.
(11:58):
So it's it's a lot of, it's a lot to maintain.
And it seems that maybe they didn't have the money to do so.
And so they resorted to. This, I mean, it's it's hard to
I mean, I don't want to even saydefend this because it's
indefensible, but you know, the thing that I'm going to really
dislike the most is it's alreadyhappening is how how mean
(12:21):
Ashley's been about it and how kind of smug it's going to let
Ashley and Giselle and all the. Others.
Be about this. Well, it's ironically, you know,
Giselle and when you're the best, the best, best, best place
they've been in since when they started on the show.
So if this has happened two seasons ago, Giselle would have
yes, definitely like break over the cold.
So I'm curious to see what Giselle's reaction will be.
(12:43):
And also it's really funny how like Ashley is like, you know,
if you haven't seen, there was aclip of Ashley at a singing gig
one. Of her gigs?
Yes, one of her singing people. Still let her sing.
And you know, she like was like,oh, this is not news to us.
We've been known. And like, you know, she made the
whole Zens going to the pen. And it's like, girl, like, you
(13:05):
don't know the full story, but also why are you so happy?
Yeah. For someone else's downfall.
Yeah, you. Know I mean I I get and that's
The thing is maybe they've neverreally made it the storyline
that Wendy is fake or you know that she's you know pretending
to be something that she's not they.
Never seem like she's snobby andpretentious and condescending to
(13:27):
the other women. Right.
So I don't know, like what like when Ashley says, oh, we've
always known about this. It's like, I mean.
Whatever you know. Maybe you've known something
doesn't seem right, but you've never there.
But I think it doesn't. This doesn't somehow vindicate
Ashley in the world of housewives.
Be like I do it all along. I was saying it.
Is it? No, you're just being messy and
(13:48):
mean and kicking someone when they're down.
It's not like she was your nemesis this entire time.
And so you've had right to be like, you know, she tried to get
me and now, like, you know, she's the one who's the bad one.
And this isn't like a Tamara Gretchen situation.
Yeah. You know, So I don't understand,
like, why she was just so like full of Glee and like just
singing about it. Basically.
(14:08):
She should not sing. And it's just it's just weird.
Like, you feel. I'm not.
I don't know her, but it seems you only someone who is
miserable would be happy about someone else's memory misery.
Right. Right.
So I don't understand that. Yeah.
And it just it's. Especially you're both mothers.
(14:29):
Do you want this right, right, right.
You know someone I say like whenwhen he should have committed
the crime allegedly, but still like this is the mother being
taken away from her kids, right,potentially and you're just like
and then. A pun and also on top of it to
be like Zen Zen Wen's gone to the pen.
It's like, no, she got bail. She's she's sitting at home
right now and she's there. She's not up at the, you know,
(14:50):
the state pen. She's if anything.
You've got this thing saying yeah.
Exactly. So yeah, it's just, it's grosses
me out. And like, the same thing.
You know, if you had a friend who got into legal trouble, like
truly a friend, like you would want the best for that.
You know, you'd want, you know, even if they've made a mistake,
you would still, like, hope thatyou know by for whatever reason,
(15:14):
logical or not, that it's not true.
And then when you find out it istrue, then you know, you go from
there and it's like, again, theymake such a big deal out of
supporting each other and like you're supporting well, it's.
Supporting women, Yeah, it's such BS.
Yeah, it's not women supporting women.
It's maybe in other groups, but like not in this group.
Yeah, I don't, I don't like it. But you know, I mean, I I can't,
(15:37):
you know, you want to say innocent until proven guilty,
but it seems like they've done they're good, built a good case
against Wendy and Eddie. So it's unfortunate, but she's
not the first housewife to make a mistake like this.
It's, you know, a serious crime for sure.
But you know, it's she wasn't defrauding old people.
It's not a Ginshaw situation. And yeah, she wasn't taking
(16:00):
advantage and putting people's lives in danger.
It's a pure case of greed, whichabsolutely sucks.
And she has to take accountability for it, and she
should. If she did these things, if they
both do those things, then they need to pay the price for it.
But I'm not going to be, even ifit was somebody who was like, if
it was Ashley, who I don't like very much, I wouldn't be like,
(16:21):
yeah, she's going to be like that.
That's unfortunate. Shouldn't have done that.
But I'm not gonna do a cartwheel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm, you know, it, it
concerns me how this is going toaffect the rest of the season.
You, you thought of something I hadn't thought of.
And especially now that they've cancelled the first episode of
the Wife Swap because it's episode.
(16:43):
But you were saying like maybe go back and re edit some of this
season of Potomac just to maybe make Wendy less present in it,
kind of do what they did with Kenya last season on Atlanta,
you know? Well, that was like all together
like taking her out and I think they will do that, but maybe
some because they always they always talk about the scenes of
being cuts. Maybe they'll be even more so
right What her story was going to be this year, right.
(17:05):
It's like from renting her houseso.
Oh well, so that's not gonna. Be AI know.
That's not a good sign. Yeah, and with the the whole
white swap of it all, I get why they cancelled that episode
because it was about, you know, her family and and you know the.
The the decadent life that they live.
Versus like the, you know, not so much what the other family
(17:27):
she's swapping with. So it's just it's awkward for
everybody. Yeah, so I get that.
But it's something to be. Most awkward for Bravo, like for
sure kind of showing that you know, hey.
Well, that's the thing too. It's like you have to think, you
know, Bravo, these women feel compelled to have these rich
lives because that's what gets them on the show and keeps them,
keeps them on the show. So is BB's not telling you to
(17:50):
cheat and lie and steal to have this rich life, but like, you
feel like you have to maintain that in order to be relevant on
Bravo. So it's like this snake eating
its tail situation. Is that the right way to?
Yeah. I think so, yeah.
I mean, it's, it's not a, it's not a, it's not difficult to get
to that conclusion or infer thatfrom, you know, what they kind
(18:11):
of expect you to do. I mean, hopefully it doesn't
come down to that. I mean, as far as I, I, I hope
that whatever happens, I don't know.
I, I don't think it goes well for Wendy.
I don't think she's going to be coming back based on this alone.
Like, I, it's so weird because so many other housewives have
done so much worse and kind of come back.
But I just think that Wendy's kind of been on a downward
(18:33):
trajectory as far as storyline. And then I think this is just
going to be like, well, it's easier for us to part ways.
A lot of people turned against her too, like after her first
season and she like got the, youknow, the glow up right, Right.
They felt that, oh, she's pretentious and she like, thinks
she's better than everybody and,you know, whatever.
And, you know, you've heard likemy sister Danielle.
See, I'll talk kind of about shedoesn't like her, so you.
Texted your sister about this. I am not.
(18:54):
Oh, you should. I want.
You should. I texted my my Leslie.
Yeah, but not Danielle. Danielle.
No, but. Get her on the phone.
Give me an opinion. Yeah.
So yeah, other words but. And it's, it's just, it's
unfortunate all around. Like, and I guess again, I
really liked Wendy. I liked that she was a little
(19:15):
bit snobby. And I like that she's, you know.
Has those 4° and is afraid to tell you about it.
Well, and also that she would just kind of like, all right,
Giselle, whatever, like and that's where she seems to be
even in this episode. Just be like, OK, if you're
going to say that winner is not going to bother me, you know,
And that's what I like about heris that she's not putting
herself into business. That really doesn't affect her.
(19:36):
Like the whole with this episode, you know, Qiana has a
beef with her and like she's just like, well, that's A1 sided
thing. Like I'm not staying up at night
worrying. Right, right.
And that's what I like. That's generally been her
attitude of like, OK, if you want to have a problem with me,
go ahead. I'm not going to waste my time
because this is nothing, you know?
It's all. I think it's worse, like when
you're aggressively coming at her, you know?
Yeah. Like when Robin and Giselle like
(19:59):
were throwing out the rumors about Eddie cheating and the
Nah. That season, you know yes then
she's like you're coming for my husband for my family and then
you know, but this like BS with Kiara and she's like, I don't
know what you're doing and I don't want any part of it right
right next right basically so next let's.
Yeah. Next, moving on to this episode,
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this seemed to be the real time we get to meet more of Angel and
Tia. Yes.
Right. I prefer right now Angel.
I like Angel and I like her husband.
That whole scene of them eating,they seem very real and normal
and like he actually seems engaged with her, like and
interested in talking to her. By the way, if you know how to
(20:40):
make a cat not scratch couches. As we watch is it?
Yeah. Hey, mother.
Hey Kitty, Get out of there. Thanks for listening to us
discipline our cat. We have a couch up here that's
kind of a hand me down couch. You can scratch the crap out of
that, but we we probably. The one discourage it, yeah, the
one downstairs is like is. Not we got those little plastic
things coming and we're going tolive like we're, you know, live
(21:02):
in a, you know, cat house, I guess.
Anyway, in a cat house. I really enjoyed Angel and her
husband. I just liked also their whole,
you know, their whole lives seemreally good and.
I I don't know. I know they had family out here.
Obviously the show was out here.I would not have left Colorado.
That house looked gorgeous. You know, like they had a whole.
(21:25):
They still have a business out there.
You, I mean, you called it. I mean, they're just, they're
just renting in there to be backhere for the show, like.
Right. Because I think if things don't
go, yeah, she she's like, no, wedon't want to do this anymore or
Bravo's like, no, we don't want you to do this anymore.
They can go back to that amazinghouse in Colorado.
Yeah. So I would have stayed there
like. And it also seems like I don't
know much about the, you know, I'm sure you can get out in kind
(21:47):
of the sticks in, you know, the Potomac area, but I don't think
they're going to find land the way that they.
Are. No, not like that, No.
Yeah, I know. If that's a priority where he's
at least being realistic, like maybe 2 acres and she's like 5
acres. I was like, you're not.
I don't think you're going to find that unless you're going to
out in the middle of BFE. So yes.
But you know, we'll see. Yeah.
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I, we're, I'm just gonna stick with her, her party.
I think that other women were being kind of too.
They're they're being bitches about it.
They're just being a little too like, man, man, man, man like.
I'm gonna call you one bitch. You're being bitchy about it
that. Is that better?
I'm just saying like, you know, also, I'm sorry, Giselle walks
(22:30):
into this woman's house and starts disrespecting the vibe of
her house. Like the whole party was
supposed to be like tranquility and like, we're just going to
hang out. And then just Giselle walks in
there and is just like, being loud and boisterous.
Like even saying like, you know,we're not supposed to raise our
voices. And she's like, Oh, well, you
know, it's a housewife. Yeah, yeah.
Then it's like I think Angel is a different vibe because she's
(22:53):
this sounds horrible and shady but I'll say it, she seems
actually generally happy. Yeah.
Yeah, compared to these other women and she's really chill and
she comes from like they like a nature chill kind of vibe.
And so they don't understand that in Potomac.
And so they were like, what are you doing?
Why are we doing a sound bath and trust we don't?
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No one need sound bath. I was calling, I was calling it
a Silkwood sound bath because no, we don't need.
I'd rather have a Silkwood shower than another sound bath.
Sound. But again, that'd be like
walking up to someone you just met and just being all like,
you're stupid, you like this man, like.
And that's pretty much how it seemed Giselle was being and
(23:36):
even the some of the other night.
At the party, eat the food. It looked really good.
Yeah. You know, amazing chill.
You're not being asked to do anything.
And then she also, like, disruptlike started stuff right away,
like. So what's the thing with you and
Kay? It's like, yeah.
And then not what this is about.This is a tranquil.
I know. But yeah, it's all you show.
I don't know. It just seemed very, very rude
(23:57):
to me. Like in a way that I couldn't
even comprehend doing. Like even to someone I really,
really found irritating. Yes.
I don't think I could just show up at their house and just start
like. Start mess.
Yeah, and just just like crapping over what they think is
the way to have a party, you know, it's like.
Yeah, she didn't like, you know,expect, expect you to like, you
know, commit 100% and like, you know, do your own sound bath in
(24:18):
your own everyday life, which isright.
This is what I want to do. Just I'm like, you know, nice,
tranquil a past the stone. Yeah, she she didn't expect you
to get up and do it was Stacey scream out your fire demon or
whatever the hell that. Was they say like thank God I've
saved this party. Whatever I got us though, so I
was just Samantha so. Earlier in the episode, Giselle
(24:40):
went over to Kiarnas and and they that's where Karen had told
her that like she had to chin check Angel.
Which which metaphorically so like you didn't like.
You didn't lay hands. I mean no you.
Didn't lay hands and there was something stupid, yeah, like she
was taking. She was basically playing
devil's advocate, right? Which I don't necessarily love
(25:00):
all the time. I.
Don't know you're talking about.And saying like maybe like when
you this, maybe that maybe like there's a reason why there was
friction between the you 2 and Kay was like, no, you're my
friend, be on my side. And it's like, okay girl, OK,
and then. When she doesn't have, I don't
know, the spine to to stay come with that same energy.
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When Giselle brings it out, it'slike, you know you were
posturing for Giselle because you're want to give Giselle the
energy she wants for being on the show.
Like if you're going to do that,then when Giselle brings it back
to you in front of this person, you.
Need instead of being I forgot that I said shin check.
OK, yeah, Shin check is a very. I'd never heard it before.
(25:41):
I've heard it, but it's not something you hear all the time,
so. She has never heard it, that's
for sure. She has never heard a lot of
things, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah.
What? Language, all they're speaking.
So. So it was just.
It was a dumb fight. Yeah.
Glad I didn't go beyond that. And like, Cage, like, we've been
friends 20 years, OK. You've been friends 20 years.
(26:02):
So just like you then. Yeah.
You know, she's not coming at you.
She defended you at Ashley's just to glow up blue, Marty.
So like, I don't get why. Yeah, playing Devil.
It's actually. She wants to get Giselle's favor
and. Also, what else has Kay got
going? On yeah, true.
And then that will bring me to Tia, which we got to meet her a
(26:26):
little bit more. And her myriad children.
Right, four children. Four children there's.
A lot of children. There's Giselle going over to
Tia. 'S yes, I.
Don't know why I thought it was Wendy for a second, but it was
because she's like, oh, I met a twin mother, you know, they've
been through it. Fruit and fruit.
It's like footballers wives. Did you ever watch football?
No, no. Oh, so good.
(26:46):
So good. Yeah.
So I said this to Jeff. Tia reminded me of Kim Coles
doing a bit. Like Kim Coles playing Sinclair,
playing English. Yes.
Because it just seemed like, Is that really how you speak?
And I'm, I, I, you know, and I, that's the one thing that I
also, I, I, I hate falling into that kind of stereotype of
(27:08):
everyone hears that British accent and thinks that
everyone's just so immediately smart and posh and da, da, da,
well. You say also lead with like, I'm
royalty, Yeah, like I'm the latest of some Prince in
Nigeria, you know? Yeah.
And then so like, the accent does throw, you know, does throw
us because we're American. But I'm sure, you know, if we
were English, we'd be like, whatever, it's an accent.
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But it's very, it's funny when people do a British accents
either like very posh like that or it's like, you know.
Like Govna, you know, yes, Shannon Bedor version.
So yeah, I mean, I thought, I thought it was lovely.
I liked her attitude. I think she is doing a good job
telling us that she grew up veryprivileged and very well spoiled
(27:53):
and pampered. Like her necklace means, you
know, pampered from the womb or whatever.
I could have without that and that her husband's from the
South S South side of Chicago try saying that three times
fast. And so they like level each
other out and with these four kids and yadda yadda yadda.
I don't, you know, I like not tocompare in contrast, but I just
(28:15):
felt like more connected. We've seen more of Angel, right.
And also like, you know, just like personal scenes that we
have, we've always seen Tia in relation to the other women.
True. So we have to get to know her
more and feel what her story is besides selling high end real
real estate. I mean, I think it, I think
it'll be interesting because, you know, again, I do like a
housewife that is richer than God and like really doesn't need
(28:38):
the money. And I do feel like that both
Angel and Tia do have that levelwhere they're just have more,
more money than they actually, you know, need or at least
access. To it that's kitchen seemed
really small to Richard Richard than God.
Well, true. All right, So maybe not that
much. And we also didn't see like the
full house, it just seemed like we were picking and choose any
like a full rundown of the house.
(28:59):
Need the tour? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll reserve that for later. Yeah, I'm going back, back over
to Angel a little bit. I do feel that it's possible and
maybe just my hope, but I do feel it's possible that if Angel
and Giselle or Ashley were to kind of butt heads that I, I
don't think that Angel would be nice about it.
I think she would know he would stand up for herself and just be
(29:21):
like y'all are crazy because you're just.
Well, we see like she's going upagainst somebody in the trailer.
I don't know who, but I don't I wouldn't.
She definitely had said she's cool and she seems down to
earth. But I think if you mess with
her, she will like come at you, like don't go there, right,
right. So that's why she's like, no one
shouldn't check me. I don't do that.
(29:42):
Like I could see her. It's like swatting Kiara down
like a family. We should talk about the third
friend in the room, Cookie. Oh my gosh, like I I OK cookie.
I mean, I she was in the first part of the episode.
She's in the at the party too, right?
The bloom. Party.
She's the Bloom party because Giselle rolled up to her and
said, yeah, you know, it's Karen's birthday coming up,
(30:03):
whatever. I, I, I like that she's kind of
our outlet, you know, our Kim, our, our Karen update, you know?
Right. Well, it's coming out like Joe
said. I understand that Karen is only
talking to a few people and it'sit's strategic and, you know,
whatever. And it's basically Cookie, Ray
and Raven. Yeah, Yeah.
And her son. So totally makes sense.
(30:26):
But yeah, I mean, we'll get to the end part.
But like, yeah, Cookie, there was a lot of cookie.
Yeah, I well, and then a lot of cookie.
They even made the joke about their about her her cookies.
Like the the camera was like a zoom.
Because Ashley made that joke. Yeah, I saw all three of you.
So. Like, calm down, cameraman.
(30:48):
Yeah, yeah, let me get that. Let me get that zoom going.
So, yeah, but I mean, it's good.Good to know that they went to
that restaurant and all about the French toast.
Oh, I want to go to Thai Ho's now.
I want some French toast to lookreally good and like it's a cute
little like it's a small. Diner Place.
Yeah, so I don't know why Kiara was wearing sequins.
(31:09):
Like she's like dripping in sequins.
Right. And like her in her.
Yeah. What else did we?
See. Like divorced, not divorced.
I don't care. I just like Stacey.
Carry on. Yeah, I.
Don't like? Yeah, I don't like the way in
which Giselle pretended to be above it all at like, whatever,
(31:31):
I'm over this. Like it's not relevant to me
anymore because I don't want it.Well.
Because Giselle knows she's not going to break her, which I
really like. Stacey is sticking to her truth.
Her truth and she's not going tomove away from that.
So that's why I was like, that'swhy she said like I don't care
anymore because I'm not going toshake her and she also isn't
(31:54):
going to rile her up. I think Stacey calling Ashley
the devil is as close as we've got to think Stacey like get
riled up, which is pretty low key roll up.
So that's why I think Giselle moved on from it.
But yeah, whatever she's got sneaky breath.
Let's if I was her, I would get my agent on the phone and be
like I need to do like Outwitz commercial something so I can
(32:16):
make money off of this. And be like, thanks Ash.
Exactly, and still have more money than Ashley.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, we got to see Ashley getting
ready for the White House Correspondents dinner and that
dress with her sister over. Rights.
That seems to be maybe part of her story or sister being yeah
or whatever. Probably to help take care of
the kids I'm assuming. Rights right, which is going to
(32:38):
college. I didn't realize that Dylan was
so red headed that that kid had some red hair.
Very much so. Both cute, cute kids.
Thank you. Considering their fathers,
Michael Barb, yes, but. Yeah, and then Josh, her other
child, I mean, boyfriend, booty call, whatever.
(32:58):
I don't know. I always stuck with dude from
Love Hotel. Well, you you like older men.
That's two years older. Well, yeah, I mean every like
old men smaller than that I'm sure.
Not like you were a daddy chaseror anything like.
That. No, that's just.
We weren't like a new. Some of the daddies.
(33:19):
Sorry, we're we're getting all inside jokey here with people
that you guys don't. Know have it like forever a day
I'm OK with that you. Just send a link to the podcast.
I tried to invite him to the wedding and he was like blah
blah blah I'm in Australia. Yeah, well, I'd stay in
Australia too if I could, but yeah, it was kind of neat.
Ashley looked really good. That dress was.
Really good. Whatever.
(33:42):
End of sentence. Josh.
Yeah, she was like very pretty. Yeah.
Service is a crank and would saybeautiful gowns.
Amazing. She was like holding on to his
hand though. Yeah, he was not let that thing
go. Like, can he just drive?
Yeah. Like she's like.
And I don't need their little like double entendre like and
then. The white sheets Who has white
(34:02):
sheets and outside of a hotel? Yeah, I don't know.
I like some color on my sheets. Yeah, I agree.
And our Porsche pampered by Porsche sheets.
None of them are whites. No, they're not.
We maybe should get a set. White sheet that's like inside
the maturity. Apparently.
I thought that was white underwear.
I thought for sure she was goingto go rag him about his shoes.
That the cameraman. Zoomed in on.
(34:24):
And they showed. But then what was the other
thing she said he needed to do? Oh no product in his hair like
first. Off.
He's a little sideshow, Bobby. He is, but I mean, I'm sure
without all that product it's even crazier.
You know, that's what I'm saying.
It's a very it's a little sideshow.
But at the same time, like you're an older woman, don't be
telling him how to like that just seems very mothering and it
(34:45):
just creeps me out a little bit.Like I would never just be all
like mentoring the person that I'm dating mentoring so weird
Let. Me give you some advice, kid?
Yeah. Well, you're my age when you're
in lesbian as long as I've been.It's like not that much younger
than her, it's only like 5 or so.
Something like that. But I guess it's 20s, she's in
(35:07):
her 30s. Whatever.
Ashley's gonna Ashley. Yeah, that's true.
There's something oh, Stacey bringing up.
So what Giselle was over was Giselle was Stacey, you know,
showing something, a document itself.
I was like, whatever, she made that up.
If she says she's divorced letter be divorced.
How's it affecting? I know, I like that.
(35:29):
I actually tried to explain thatlike you know, it's, you know
very much about principle and. Girl, girl, you were on the
wrong show if you're very about principle, okay?
Like we're not about principle here.
You. No, and also like I, I mean, I
guess where you're right, Giselle's not like Stacey's not
going to admit to it. She didn't has yet to admit to
paying TJ, which they seem to have gotten this, you know, all
(35:50):
the smoking guns they could for that and she's still like
whatever, I don't know what you're talking.
About also the track that she that she took of like, I don't
know what you're talking about, so how can I speak on it?
Brilliant. Yeah.
Yeah. Because also you can't show her
your receipts because you saw them allegedly at the essence
like fair festival, what have you and and now but you didn't
(36:13):
take a screenshot so you can't say like this is the document
saying that TJ is suing her. Well, until they're re
explaining it. Also, I was just like, that
story doesn't sound very legitimate of like.
So here you are at this essence ball, right?
You're just here at this event and someone walks up to you and
they call I've been looking for you.
Let me show you these documents like you either knew that person
(36:33):
was going to be there. They knew you were going to be
there. That had to have been
coordinated. There's just no, I don't.
I don't care how, I don't care how random their lives are.
Small, worldly it is. No one's going to be all like
Ashley Darby. Boy, did you?
And why did you sit down at the right table today?
Let me show you something you know.
Also, too, it's like, so just because she's best friends with
(36:54):
TJ, he sent her that document? Like, I don't understand.
Yeah, the chain of events and whatever.
Just messy, messy, messy. It's it's.
I don't care. But yeah, I hope, I hope Ashley
takes a page from Giselle and just says let's move on past
this. But no, now she's trying a
different way. Now she's saying that like she
(37:15):
heard and that's the last scene.Italia host.
Oh right, I heard that that Stacey's trying to get Chris
Samuels who is her friend Monique AKA one of the best like
Potomac housewives there's been.You know my friend Monique, the
one who was on the show for fiveyears.
Yeah, you know her. You know my friend.
So they got divorced since when he's been off the show.
(37:38):
And so Ashley is saying that herfriend said to her that Stacy
was trying to get Chris's information from this friend.
Maybe she was looking at him to be ATJ, you know, she was to pay
him to be her her boyfriend lastseason.
Chris says like football money. Well, you know, you can always
use more. I mean no one says no to more
money. I mean what the ask is?
(38:02):
I mean. Can can you explain to me why
Cookie, it would seem very weird.
Cookie got a text. Oh, it's from Chris.
Chris who? Chris Samuels.
Oh, thank you. Chris Samuels.
What the hell is that about? Are you not, like, how scripted
are you? Yeah, Like, oh, well, now that
you've brought up Chris Samuels,now we have a good.
I didn't. She didn't.
We didn't even need that. She could have just said, like,
you know, at my balloon ball, I heard this thing.
(38:24):
Right, Stacey. There was a way to bring that
around I didn't need. Cookie.
Now I want to know why Cookie and Chris Samuels are texting
together like I'm. Well, because like, Karen was
good friends with Monique. And OK.
Chris so makes sense, Cookie Karen's good for I don't know,
I. Mean I will.
I'll go with that. We'll see.
Like you know, Cookie must know Cherise and Cherise was the one
(38:46):
who brought Monique on the show,so I don't.
And then they turned on each other.
But whatever, it was just. Again, I don't care.
I don't need a Stephanie a Stephanie.
I don't need a Stacey. Gotcha season.
Like yes, they're just move on. They're throwing everything at
her, trying to make it stick. And she's just like, and now
we're going to see, well, I'm glad we're going to see Monique
(39:07):
next week. She's now a friend of and
they're going to sit down for dinner and really hash this out.
And I, I hope it doesn't go the way that we expected to go with
like Monique getting pissed off,like you're going after my
ex-husband. Like if I was thinking, I'd be
like, I know how how she operates.
I know how Giselle operates. I know how this show operates.
I'm not going to make this my thing.
(39:27):
So and also and it's her ex-husband.
If it's your ex, you'd be like go ahead and have him right?
Right. That is, that is used Good.
Exactly, like he's her ex for a reason, right?
Like she's not trying to get back with him like.
Stacey's feeding. Her ex and we don't know the
timeline of like TJ and Chris and whatever, Yeah.
It's just, it's just dumb. It seems like a reach.
(39:50):
Like I don't know why they're soobsessed with Stacey.
I mean. Why they're so focused on
Stacey? Oh, I know they don't have
storylines, right? Yes.
They don't have anything on their own to talk about.
But also they just I mean I never really wanted to think it
was true. Like I never understood why they
were always so anti. No anti Wendy, like I didn't.
(40:14):
And then anti Candace. Yeah.
But like, they really do try to ice people out.
They really like play, producer and casting.
Yeah, if they don't want to sit at, you know, the the cool girls
table with Giselle, if they haveno interest in that, then then
they want to if you're. Not going to bow down or play
the game. The Giselle Giselle wants you to
play the game and now Ashley, because Ashley is like the new
(40:35):
Robins Giselle. Then you're going to be iced out
and it's so dumb. That's not what this show is
about, right? It's about like, you have
friction naturally, not like, why friction?
She said. Something wrong to me now?
I'm gonna like get rid of. Her and really, if we start
talking about the numbers, sheernumbers, we're gonna play this
like it's, you know, traitors orsomething.
Really it's just Ashley and Giselle now with a little bit of
(40:55):
Kiarna like kind of on this team, like mean girl thing.
Because like, Wendy doesn't care, right?
Angel and TR are too new, right?And then who else is there?
There isn't. There isn't.
Are they behind me? Who's behind me?
Who else is there? Have I missed nobody else?
Yeah, well cuz we're on the 8:00.
Games. So I guess the majority of the
(41:17):
cast is on Giselle's whole game,but you know, without Wendy and
then the new girls that. I think Tia will be on the side
because she's Giselle's friend. I think she will be like, oh, I
think Stacey's lying too. Yeah.
I just. I don't.
Why do you care so much? She is, again, she's not lying
on you, Right? Stop trying to get this whole
idea of like we care about it integrity or principles because
(41:39):
you don't because you were married to Michael frickin
Darby, the biggest liar. I'm on grinder doucheface that
has ever been seen on housewivesso.
He's the biggest doucheface on housewife.
Not the biggest, not on Potomac.OK, All right.
Like there's still, there's still Slade that's a.
Competition. No, Slade, I think is probably
the biggest douche doucheface, but like, you do not care about
(42:02):
integrity when you've been married for so many years to
that man. Yeah.
So just hush. Yeah.
So I also, I think that if they were to just focus on something
else, if if Stacy's as big of a liar as they make her out to be,
she will go ahead and trip herself.
Up exactly. So many other things let.
Her lies will always come out. It will always come out.
(42:23):
Let her do it to herself insteadof trying to get her, get her,
get her every time, right? It's tiresome.
Right, because apparently you allegedly played the long game
with Wendy because you knew all along and now this has come out.
Yeah. So the smugness is going to be
so. Awful.
This smugness Giselle is so her smugness.
The Bravo con panel is gonna, because they're both gonna be
(42:44):
like, smug, smug. Yeah and Giselle's not even
gonna say anything about it. She's just to be like smug and
not say anything about how she knew or whatever.
She's gonna have 0 details make it seem like she knows.
All shade about, you know, and whatever.
So lame. Is Robin gonna be it?
Yeah, she is. Well, I think because of
traders. Oh, Oh, yeah, yeah.
(43:06):
That's. Whatever I was.
Going to say. I think I hear you have to pay
$20 though to get into her panel.
And it ain't worth it. Yeah, sorry.
Go behind that pay wall, honey. Not paying it.
There was a scene with Wendy andStacey in the trailer Where?
Where Stacey's like. I have to admit that I lied.
(43:28):
And I thought that it was going to be her saying about the
cannabis thing. Yeah, Yeah.
But she didn't say it like, I wonder, like I clearly, unless
it was a Frankenbite, she was like, I have to tell you that I
lied in at the reunion. So I don't know what that was
about. But in any case, the fact that
she she just said like I got theidea from you right, because you
(43:51):
didn't have the idea before you made that's.
Why I like Wendy's so much is that she's like, OK, you have
the business, good for you. Also, she's like, we're trying
to work on our friendship, so I'm like, not going to be like,
what the hell, right? What the hell with Eddie?
Happy Eddie or happy Stacy? And what the hell with like, now
I'm back with my husband and this weird timeline with TJ.
Yeah, she's like, I'm letting that go, you know, and just
(44:13):
moving forward. Because also like, it doesn't
change anything. It's not like, oh, you're mad at
me because I have my own cannabis line.
I'll shut down today like. Right.
And it's also like Stacy's not trying to like, steal Eddie's
workers. That whole scene with Giselle
meeting with that dude who just happened to be there.
And so like, oh, you Remember Me?
I was the one who said that Stacy approached me.
I told her hell no, I don't wantto work with you.
(44:34):
I didn't need that. I don't need this pylon.
Don't make this a thing like Orange County with with Katie,
like you don't want to do that. But these women, they're not
seeing it. They're so because.
It's what's worked for them every time.
Right, and they're not seeing like when they're in it, it must
be like, oh, this is going to play so well on our but like
(44:56):
when you what? And also, given their history of
ICE people out, it's like, do you not see what you're doing?
Well, I mean that that's I thinknothing could be if they keep
icing people out and they keep trying to do the same thing.
I'm sure Bravo had a conversation what they're saying
like like, hey, you need to stopdoing this.
And if she's. Not a producer.
Does it again. Then I'm sure it's going to be
(45:17):
like, OK, well, we're going in adifferent direction, right?
Although Giselle, she'll be around forever.
Giselle was, yeah. Like, I don't know, I'd get to
compare her to, but yeah. I just feel like if you take
away all of her minions and it was just Giselle, maybe that
(45:37):
would be good. But like, as long as she's got
a, you know, a sidekick, I thinkshe's going to continue to do.
This she will protect Ashley because without Robin.
Right. Yeah.
Right. So it would be interesting
though to see, Yeah, like I willtake Ashley over Robin too.
I don't need Robin to come back,don't need it.
(45:58):
Don't really necessarily need Candace come back.
I think she should be happy and doing her own thing.
It's probably too much. I think we probably will be
losing Wendy given given how this goes.
I mean, I know that Jen Shaw shot a whole season after being
accused within the show to the reunion.
So I don't know. We have to wait to see how this
(46:18):
plays out. Whatever, whatever.
Yeah, it, I mean it could also, I mean, I could also see, and
this is pure conjecture, I couldalso see Wendy taking the the
line of I was just doing what myhusband told me to do,
especially because they have that e-mail from him and.
Oh, that's so bad to like. Get towards their insurance
maximum which does not look goodbut.
(46:40):
Do they have the same exact samecharges or I feel like they're a
little bit different? I think they're different
because they don't have as much evidence against him
specifically is the problem. Isn't when they both have filed
a a claim one and also both filethe reports to the police about
the robbery? Yeah, I would think so.
I don't know, I didn't read. I didn't read in great detail.
But I bet you the Bravo doc, it's gonna have some good info.
(47:01):
Yeah. So I'm sure I'll keep an eye out
for them when they when they have it.
So yeah, it'll be interesting tosee.
So overall good episode it. Was fine.
I mean, I thought I like last week's bit better, but I think
it's whatever. They all can't be amazing.
I'm probably just excited that I'm awake right now for a Sunday
night that I took that little nap did.
(47:22):
You take that little nap. It was like a nap, hey.
Buying a car is tough, okay. So you're on a dealership is
rough y'all? So rough.
It's a it's, it's, it's a like athird world country.
They need a vending machine. They need a vending machine.
They do. They kept offering me coffee.
I'm like, how much coffee do youthink I need?
It's 12:00 in the afternoon. I'm like, I'm going to be
buzzing around here and I would have just gotten jittery and
(47:44):
passed out on their desk. It would have been awful.
But yeah, no, no. I just think that I don't know,
I really liked, I liked Angel a lot.
Yes, I feel like good warm feeling.
Right. And I feel like the the new
ladies are giving good. I think if positioned correctly,
(48:04):
if the editors don't edit them into oblivion, I think they will
be a good addition to the show And I think they can do enough
hopefully have enough going on that because Karen does not have
enough going on kind of sway thependulum her way.
But I think these two might. It's funny.
I feel like I feel like Angel has the ability to eclipse
Kiana. Oh yeah.
(48:25):
Oh yeah. Which would be interesting
because I would, I wouldn't. But I think she could also have
the ability to be like, I'm not going to put much effort into
this because I got a 2 million or $4 million house in Colorado.
I want to get back to, you know,well, they bought it for two,
but then they it's. Probably worth like so.
OK, so pretty. So pretty.
You've talked about like. I love Colorado.
(48:45):
Yeah, you like Denver? I love Denver, Co is the most
California State outside of California I've ever been to.
It just Denver itself is like a feels like California.
I've never been. I'd be curious about it.
Not in, but that's the cold weather though.
But it doesn't stick there. I mean it's.
Not like Chicago. Yeah, it's not like Chicago.
(49:05):
I mean, it does get cold and there is a winter and everything
and it does get damn ass cold. But like it's not, you know,
you, it's not the worst. It's not you're not getting like
lake and snow, ice, stuff like that.
But yeah, we would leave California.
But I always think like, you know, if we were to, what would
be like a good alternative? So yeah.
I do Denver. So anyway, we're rambling now.
Yeah. So the next week's episode, I,
(49:28):
you know, it looked a little messy.
I didn't know what they're trying to get for Get To with
that preview, just other than Chris Samuels and Monique.
Well, they show up. So yes, it's it's going to be
the pride episode. We're Ashley.
Oh, that. Makes her drag king thing again
and then Monique shows up and then they go to dinner and the
whole Chris Samuels of it all and whatever.
That'll be interesting. I'm just glad Monique's back.
(49:48):
I really enjoyed Monique when she was on the show, curiously,
like how she's changed, you know, post divorce and whatnot.
And yeah. Has she got a groove back?
All right, we'll, we'll talk about that next.
Time until next time, her groove.
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