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The Real Housewives of Potomac (Season 10, Episode 8)Monique brushes off the rumor that Stacey tried to date her ex-husband, then opens up about the real state of her marriage. Meanwhile, Keiarna hears from Cookie that Stacey may have passed those intimate details on to Chris.

Tia meets with Stacey and her ex, and the tension is impossible to ignore. Angel is still stung by the catfish accusations, even as Gizelle and Wendy move past it. Things take a turn when Tia and Stacey have a major falling out. At Gizelle’s party, the group confronts Stacey head-on—prompting her to gather the women and pack them up.---------------------------

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(00:15):
Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott. And I'm Jeff.
And we just watched an episode of The Real Housewives of
Potomac. Yes.
And they're, they're still in Potomac.
They're still in Potomac. They.
Didn't go anywhere. No, no trips.
No, no trips. So where did it start?
Yeah, right, Wendy and. Oh it was ATV continued of a

(00:36):
nothing the nothing burger. Oh yeah, Kiarna is saying Stacey
is dating your ex-husband and which one didn't happen and two
when he doesn't give a crap. Yeah, Kiarna.
It's exactly what we predicted last time, which was Monique was
like, OK, and I, I divorced. Him two years ago, yeah.
I divorced him for a reason. That is the interesting thing
about when people keep talking to Monique, like even when Wendy

(00:57):
goes over to Monique's house, like catch up with her.
There's a lunch, actually. No, she went over to her.
House. No, they went out to lunch.
No, I think anything about Ashley going.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. But still, either way was she
keeps saying so, you know, girl,what's changed with you?
Like, what's what's new? And it like, you know, you're
divorced. Like, yeah, I've been divorced
for two years. Yeah.
Like, to me, this isn't news. This is all news to you because

(01:19):
you haven't seen me on the show,but yeah.
So, but that was I. I enjoyed that little lunch.
Well, there's more that. I know, but she's like, you were
just wanting me to be like completely like on the ball with
everything today. No, no, I'm just no, no, no.

(01:40):
So yeah, especially it was the pride thing and the nothing
burger and Stacey being like whatever.
What are you doing, Kate? You're being messy.
They're all just like, this whole episode was like, let's
kind of, let's try to trap the entrapment of Stacey Roush,
basically, Yeah. And it's like all they could
talk about was Stacey. And it was just, it was so
tedious. After all, I'm like, what else
do you have going on that you'relike making this whole season

(02:02):
about Stacey? It yeah, it just seems.
To be happening, not giving a damn.
I think she gives too much of A damn.
I only, I think she's really like unbothered.
I think she sees it coming and she's like, Oh, no, well, I
mean, we'll get to the end then.That was just, that was really
good. But yeah, it was basically go
from like, let's talk about her there to they do this, the pride

(02:24):
thing, you know, again, cases are better, but here we are.
And they afterwards they're talking, they like sit down
after the Pride parade and Monique gives them again, like,
well, this is what happened. This is like, you know, I felt
like whatever. And you know, I felt like a
piece of meat. And you know, he wasn't really
loving loving me the way I should be.

(02:46):
And I said he may not He won't. This will be the last time you
enter me. Yeah, everyone was like, oh,
including us. That's that's some specific.
Words, no entrance. But hey, you know, she knows.
She felt a certain way. She made it clear.
That's some good boundaries. Yes, no interest.
And so she said that and, and then later on Kiona and Giselle

(03:10):
and Ashley and somebody and. Tia they went to lunch.
Yes, yes, they went to lunch and.
Tia was in a lot of this, actually, now that we think she
was actually, yeah, she was kindof the thread.
And all the threads, the like, angry British thread.
So they basically say that Cookie, who I don't care about,

(03:32):
who Monique has all. Well, yeah, yeah.
Cookie Call said that Chris Samuels is all pissed off
because he heard that Monique was talking shit about him.
Oh, right. And they're like, well, it must
have been Stacey. And like, oh, we're going to
confront her own Stacey. And it's like, what?
What is happening? Yeah, I mean also like, So what
if she did? Like, So what if Stacey called

(03:53):
Chris Samuels and was like, Oh yeah, I was just at lunch with
your ex-wife and she's talking bad shit about you?
Yeah, it's good gossip, Yeah. It's also like, again, it just
comes back to this whole idea ofwhat is it to them.
Also, what is it to like like Monique?
He's not like he's going to like, you know, I mean, maybe it
might make their Co parenting more awkward, who knows?

(04:13):
But yeah, it's like, what is it to you?
You know, when when Giselle saidMonique was having a vulnerable,
like she said, well, we're having like a sisterhood moment
and you know, Stacey went and ran back and told Chris, one,
you know nothing about sisterhood 2.
You never like Monique until just now.
You're like, OK, I'm all right with her.
Three, you've been talking mad shit about Monique for years.

(04:35):
Back when she was on the show, probably after when she was on
the show and spreading around everywhere.
Just make this just say I don't like Stacey and I finally I'm
like, oh, I can get her on this.Like you don't give a damn about
like Monique's feelings. It's so stupid.
Well, they've, you know, they'vegotten to a good place now,
right? They even have even have like a
sit down when they got to a goodplace right, if it's coming in

(04:56):
the season, but it's just it wassilly to be like, Oh, how dare
Stacey. Oh my God.
Monique was laying down. Her, you know her, her, her.
Yeah, burying her soul. Burying her soul.
It was a safe space, Stacey. Yeah.
Silly. Yeah, yeah.
I would say very silly. Yeah.
So then I think we went to the whole.
The swim practice, yeah, where Tia meets Timu and yeah and

(05:22):
Stacey, our daughter's swim practice, right, which I didn't
realize was so early in the morning.
It. Makes sense, it's always early.
Yeah, it makes sense. And think about that where she's
like, I got up at 5:00 in the morning to meet you at swim
practice. Well, you could have said no,
right? They were acting very cagey to
begin with. Like they.
Were being weird. First off, he's he's weird.

(05:43):
I think to begin with, yeah. I mean, it was cute to see them
have some screen time, just themand like Stacey, you know, he
and Stacey interacting. It probably was Tia being the
New Girl. It was only when he would get up
at 5:00 AM in the morning and tocome to that, that sure.
She asked. When he when he's like, I just
get up at 5:00 AM and I'd go about my business.

(06:03):
I'm not going to go out here to a pool.
Thank you. She's like you're going to see
some Wife Swap. That explains my exact routine,
don't worry. Yeah, well, I interrupted for
your daughter's swim class. Yeah.
It's like a meet Timu. Yeah, but no thanks.
But yeah, that whole thing when they they have right to keep
showing Stacey kind of getting out of that.
It's like, oh, are you I'd like to invite you to dinner, like,

(06:24):
oh, I'll be leaving. I'll be gone by then.
Oh, are you going to be at Giselle's thing?
He won't be back till next week.Like it just seemed very like no
which we'll. Just say I don't want to bring
him around you guys because I'm afraid you're going to like talk
shit and like, you know. And Stacey tried to say that to
her and say, well, what it really is, I don't want to bring
him around the other women yet. But like she also didn't say

(06:44):
that. Like I don't want to bring him
to dinner because of that. It was more like I'm not going
to bring him to Giselle's event because of that.
So it could have she could have saved herself some trouble.
Right. She definitely made it really,
really muddy. Yeah.
This is the one thing in the episode where I'm like, it was
muddy. Tia was probably right for what
she murdered, and Stacey might have been lying, but I don't
think she was, like, maliciouslylying.

(07:06):
I think she was just like, I don't want to bring him around,
so I'm going to say, Oh no, he'soutgoing out, whatever, I don't
care. There's easier ways to like get
out of him being there that don't like have to be around
scheduling. No for sure she could or she
just been like I don't feel comfortable bringing him around
right and period or just straight up an off scene or.

(07:27):
Just straight up say he's not comfortable yet being around.
He's very German, yes, and he doesn't, you know, F with you
guys. And, and maybe that was her way
of saying he doesn't feel comfortable being on camera
right now. Like he's just here, he's in
controlled spurts on camera. We don't want to bring him into
a a huge debacle which. Or he'll be like grilled by

(07:47):
exactly. Exactly.
And that's, I think exactly whatStacey's saying is if I bring
him around and they're going to ask him a million questions and
like he just doesn't want to be part of that.
And if that's not the case, it would be an easy thing to say
that it was. She made it murkier than it
needs to be. Yes, that's the one fault.
I'll they were everything else. I'm like, whatever, I don't
care. So there's that There's like
Angel looking for a house. Oh.

(08:08):
That was cute I guess. Yes, nice house Angel being
upset still about the the catfish thing, which I I like
for sure we have angels back in that moment, but now it's 2
episodes later and I don't care anymore.
Like I thought you would, you know, got into like a I'm moving
on place with Giselle in the catfish comet.

(08:28):
It was a bullshit comet. She shouldn't have said it, but
to try to like, say it's unresolved and like, I need to
talk to Wendy about it. And I'm like, Wendy don't care.
Well, also don't care. What did Wendy do wrong?
Even when. She laughed in her face.
Well, but she was basically saying because Giselle was
beating around the Bush, she's like, basically she's saying
you're cat, you're a catfish. No, Giselle said.
Catfish. We they rolled it back, Giselle

(08:51):
said. Catfish OK, And when he just
said like, just like, you know, backed it up of yes, I don't it
seems that you're not who you'reportraying yourself to be.
Got it. Broke it out in a nicer way when
she was like catfish catfish catfish.
Got it, got it. I just thought that it was one
of the things where Giselle was like kind of beating around the
Bush and then as I remembered it, I thought it was when do you

(09:12):
said she's calling you a catfish?
Just like let's quit beating around the Bush.
It was like the Bravo convo or just I was like this is like and
when he was like yes, and right,right.
OK, so but they don't know why, but why would she really have a
problem with Wendy about it justbecause Wendy like cosigned
Giselle? I think that it all sounds like
she feels like that Wendy's being cold towards her and

(09:34):
isn't, you know, which is probably because she's so close
to Kiara and when he's done withher.
So, but I just feel, I don't know, it just didn't.
If I was Angel, I'd wait for thenext moment.
We're going to piss you off instead of like, focusing on
moments from like, you know, weeks ago.
Right, right, right. We forgot.
Was it? Was that the pride thing where
they're giving her crap Stacey crap about not being actually

(09:57):
Nigerian? Oh God.
And if you're actually you have that name, pronounce it
correctly. That was yeah, Shayo, I was
like, thank you, my Nigerian sisters.
I mean, I do see. Educate me.
Yeah, I do see that it's a, you know, a little like, oh, OK,
you're, you're Nigerian, OK, like.
Well, what? Angel said.

(10:17):
You know, what's the community outreach part of it?
I'm like, I don't know what is the community outreach and what
is the. What is it supposed to be?
Although I think it doesn't happy Eddie do like X percent
given back or I thought he had. Something maybe?
Does Angel know that though? Probably.
I mean, I'm sure Wendy probably broke it down.
Here's the difference between the two.
You know None. So.

(10:39):
But. Yeah, that was really Angel's
main thing. Yeah, that was her thing.
It was just being. And then, yeah, absolutely.
So yeah, so there's the Monique Wendy lunch where Monique broke
it down that she doesn't trust Cookie and she thinks she's, you
know, demonic. I think it was her.
That was her word. Yeah, which is interesting.

(11:01):
I don't care for Cookie either. I'm like, I love what she said.
I introduced Cookie to Karen. Yeah, I don't know.
I kind of liked Cookie. I, I, I enjoy someone who very
quickly gets to the gets to the don't put your finger in my
face. You do that one more time and
then of course she gets escortedout.
But yeah, later. Sorry.

(11:22):
Well, it's funny because like, you know, at the very end of the
party, Monique wasn't there. And I think, you know, it's
because Cookie was there also Cherise was there.
She they don't like it really. Well, Cherise brought Monique
into the group. She was her friend and then they
had a falling out so. I didn't realize Cherise was an
actual housewife, I thought. Cherise was.
Cherise is an OG. Oh.

(11:43):
Really. Yeah, OK.
I just thought she was a friend of because I've only seen.
No, she was like two or three seasons and then she went
dropped down to like. Got it.
OK, I'm sure you've told me thatbefore, but you know, without a
consistent sort of appearance ofCherise, it's.
Like the Camille of the group. Except seems a little bit more
popular than Camille. Well, she was with the lady as I

(12:05):
mentioned. Yes, yes, that's correct.
That is correct, yes. As far as the fans go, I'm sure
Camille just knocks everyone's socks.
Off Oh my God, please give me a give me a Camille Gretchen photo
op Run, don't walk. Were we in the same room with
that one? We were in the same room with
that one that was a Tamra 1. I think I do have some pictures
of Camille and and. Her gloves were like lace gloves

(12:27):
and the IT. Didn't even really match her
outfit. She was like wearing a blue
dress. With no gloves or in a black
dress, but with like black lace gloves.
But it was just weird. Like I don't know why you're
wearing gloves. And then she had like almost
like Mary Jane heels. And it was a weird look.
And I was, I agree. What are you doing?
And I remember and then she's ona couple of panels, but I'm
like, sure can heal. But meanwhile, back to Potomac.

(12:53):
What else? Oh, then the TO Wendy, the north
or. Oh, right, right.
Where I really thought that Wendy was going to like play
Mean Girls and like just say like, hey Wendy, hey, hey, I'm
Stacey. So Tia said.
And then like I was Stacey be like I told you, I don't like
that hoe. So luckily she was like, Tia's
right here. And then for Stacey to be like,

(13:16):
actually disowning Tia. That's my problem is you can
hear in in Stacy's voice where she's like, well, see, Tia, I
wasn't expecting you to actuallydo, you know, you could see she
was. Right.
OK, so that was her second fault, the episode, yes.
I'm not going to be completely like, you know, on her side.
But it is related to the murkiness that she started in

(13:37):
the first place. Of no, but still it was like you
should have, you could have saidit better.
Absolutely. And then you didn't have to like
take the schoolmarm sort of likeTia, I'm disappointed in you.
Right, like Tia was like, you know, legitimately like even
though she's good friends with Giselle, right?
She was, you know, giving you the benefit of the doubt and
like trying to get to know you. And then she that dropped real

(13:57):
quick at the party. Well, so that's The thing is
like for Tia to be like to be saying in her confessional, I'd
give her the benefit of the doubt.
It was like, oh thank you, Tia. For, you know, her five freaking
seconds. Like, you know, do you really
need to give her a benefit of the doubt, like maybe get to
know her? Yeah, but because I guess she is
Giselle's friend, she can go ahead and take this sort of

(14:18):
holder than thou approach to it.Well then, so they go back and
forth. And then the other thing was Tia
bringing it to Wendy. That like state like that Angel
still butt. Hurt.
Oh, right. And the key on of it all and
Wendy just being like this is dumb.
I did like that, Wendy. Like still talking about that.
Like that was weeks ago. Yeah.

(14:38):
Like let's, I'm over it, you know?
So silly. So, but I mean, that's I'm sure
going to lead to a problem of Wendy just being dismissive of
Angel. Right.
And here's the thing. Like when I say silly, it's
silly that she's still hanging on to it because it's like you
need resolution. Her feelings are valid in the
moment and them being like, you know, treating her like crap at
that dinner. But we need to like, focus on it

(14:58):
when it happens, confront at thetime and then, you know, move
forward. So when Giselle said that, like
Angel likes to, you know, steal on things basically, and then
confront you when she's ready and it's like, well, I'm done
with it, right? Right.
You know, you got to do it in the moment because then it's
like this is recycled beef. Right.
Well, and just on top of that, it ends up being one of those

(15:19):
things where, you know, the joke's not funny anymore.
Like we might, I might have beenwanting to talk about that then,
but like now whatever, you know,defense I might have had doesn't
it's not on my mind anymore. Like it's completely gone.
I may have had a legitimate reason for being a certain way,
but I'm not going to remember that detail now.
But all I can do is assure you I'm sorry I hurt your family,
you know, that sort of thing. So can we talk about the 10

(15:44):
millionth download of ReasonablyShady?
The Robin of it all. Yes, that's what we seem to be
forgetting, that this whole event at the end.
Robbins Easily, easily forgettable.
No, come on. Oh yes, Cherise was there, but
Robin wasn't. Girl, come on.
Well, but I mean as you were saying and as Giselle explained

(16:06):
to, was that just their friend again or who is the the white?
Oh, that white dude, Yeah. He's been on before, right?
He has been. He was like the party planner.
Yeah, when again? When Stacey?
When Giselle was talking about Stacey to the party planner
dude. Well, and her daughter and like
her her talk to. So Stacey.
And I'm like, I'm like, I don't care.

(16:26):
But yes, Robin feels a certain kind of way because of how she
was fired. I.
Don't know how she left the show.
How she left the show. With the firing that she was
rightfully fired because she wasn't sharing her life, she's
putting it behind a Patreon. Or behind a pager 911 call me.
And she was like, yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, I agree with

(16:49):
you. I think that, you know, for the
way Robin went out and. She was Dollsville, and it's
like, you know, she didn't have any story.
And so it's like, yes. What about every woman?
Every all the lady's like, is she on the couch?
Like she couldn't get off the couch to come here.
That was like somebody else threw that couch out Couch.
I can't remember someone that's made a joke about like robbing

(17:09):
your you're stuck on. There's Wendy and Jazzy, I think
Jazzy made. No, but I'm saying before that
the Prince was that someone's saying like, you know, you're
just there on the couch. Because every every scene of her
back in the day was just her on the couch.
Well, that was the whole story. But how she was generally.
So it was COVID and she was, youknow, feeling a bit depressed

(17:30):
and whatever and like, freaking Juan.
Wouldn't leave her bed though, she'd just be like bed all day
and sleeping till like 2:00 PM right?
So mom was very understanding, but no, it was just weird.
Yeah, when Giselle said like, oh, we're having a party for
reasonably shady. And I was like, well, surely
Robin's not going to be there. I would have heard about that.
Surely Queens of Bravo would have been like trumpeting the
return of Robin, right? And they didn't.

(17:52):
So for just for not to be there is really funny.
Do you have a party for the podcast and your Co host isn't
there? Yeah, I mean, I I hats off to
Robin for at least saying her. Hats or her and belt.
Oh. Yeah, her and belt hats, her
bedazzled hats, yes, hats off toher for like having a boundary
and saying, hey, I'm not going to appear on Housewives just

(18:12):
because Giselle's having this event.
Like, you know, if you're going to, if I'm going to be on there,
I want to be paid, you know, that sort of thing.
So good for her in that one regard.
But also you're, you're not all that special.
I think you know, No, I know she's trying to build a brand
and everything post housewives, but this would have probably
helped. Well, her brand that she, I
mean, I know she's on Traders, but she was a Bravo con.

(18:34):
Oh, yeah. So I mean, you're still really
attached to housewives and to Bravo.
True. Where I'm where I'm going with
this though, is that I thought it was really weak when Giselle
got up on the mic and was like, hey, thanks for being here
Robin. Something came up.
Something came up, but it was like something come up being
like she just didn't want to be here for all you guys and your
fans. On camera, yeah.
Yeah, still, that's kind of BS. Unless there was like a thing

(18:56):
where Robin was gonna show up the minute cameras went down,
but they don't know when camerasgonna go down.
And I'm sure if Robin showed up,cameras would have come back up.
So that is kind of a BSE thing to do.
Like in that case, it's just kind of a masturbatory thing for
Giselle to throw this party for herself.
But that's how Giselle rolls, yeah.
I feel like if Robin was offereda spot back on the show, she

(19:17):
would do it. She said she wouldn't have come
back to the show, but I think she would.
But I think just making a cameo where she's not going to get
paid and I'll just be like Giselle's friend, you know, I
don't think she was there for itand fine, you know, whatever.
I thought it was also funny how Ashley was saying like, you
know, well, Giselle's putting ona brave face, but it really

(19:38):
hurts her that Robin's not here.Look, Robin Junior, be likely be
happy Robin isn't there because now use your time to shine as
Giselle's sidekick. So is that like I'm losing my
voice? It's, well, I know it's because
you've been sick for the last week forever, but you might be
losing it. Maybe you're just getting the
rest. I go like in and out, Like,

(19:59):
yeah. Yeah, I finally feel halfway
normal, mostly normal, so. I feel like less congested and
I'm not, but I'm still, I think because I was just coughing so
much right before, but I still have a little bit of a cough,
but I'm definitely trying to. I'm feeling bad for anyone who's
been watching on on the on the video.
I keep trying to suck a piece ofcheese out of my teeth from the
dinner. It's really a weird thing.
I'm like, I keep drinking water too and it's not helping.

(20:20):
I'm like. I appreciate Enoch 'cause I
don't know, like who's actually watching the video or just
listening to it, but like someone's saying that they enjoy
the fact that I ripped off Rich's picture.
Oh yeah, that was very nice. Thank you for that.
That was. Really nice, thank you for that
comment. Yes I was definitely in my
feelings and like how to RIP offthat picture.
It's like I ripped them all downand replaced them with Beverly
Hills, by the way, as a preview.Yes.

(20:41):
I don't know if I like this new background on Beverly Hills head
shots. It just makes it look like
they're filming some weird whodunit.
I expect it to be some. And I know that's the old
Hollywood look going, yes, but Ifeel like somehow, yeah, it's
supposed to be some old Agatha Christie or something.
It was sudden in the library with the Candlestick.
It must have been, Yes, Seriously.

(21:03):
But yeah, we just print out these new pictures.
We almost. Forgot something?
Yeah, because she alphabetized funny in the yeah flash drive.
We went all the way down to the FedEx Office.
Cascade, whatever it's. Called, yes, put the USB in
there and made some color copies.
It was very nice. So yeah, we're getting ready for
Beverly Hills. It's a few weeks.

(21:24):
It's two weeks next week. That's crazy.
That's crazy. So back to the Yeah.
So then the last. So yes, we're at the reasonably
shady 1010 million downloads party.
At this again, the most crowded,smallest venue possible.
Every time, every time on the show, I feel so claustrophobic.
There are too many people and a production company and a

(21:45):
production crew in this scene. Yeah, I would.
I it's just, you know, it's got to be hot, too.
And it's the summer and CC I, I just can't do it.
Like I just, I feel hot and and crowded and I'm not even
physically there. It just made me wonder like how?
What was the invite list for that whole party like?
She had to have known like that because I know those people

(22:07):
looked familiar. You know, it's not like she
invited, you know, just randos too.
Or maybe she did. But it yeah, it seemed pretty
crowded there. You'd think that very crowded.
Maybe. I'm not saying, you know, plan
the whole theatre like Teresa did for her podcast at the one
of the last episodes. Oh, right, New Jersey.
But you know. It was one of the yeah.
And it was, but you know, I mean, it looked like they could

(22:29):
have had a larger venue, but also good for them.
I mean, we have. No one.
Day we'll do a live, you know, and we'll have people who want
to come to it. I would love.
To do a live, well, it wasn't even a live it was just the
party. But still, you know, but we'll
have. They weren't recording because
the killer wasn't there. They couldn't.
I'm saying we'll have a fan event because we'll have enough
fans who might actually want to come see.

(22:51):
Us, I would love a event. I know exactly where we would do
it. Oh, downtown, yes.
Oh, OK. I know where.
I know where, yes. OK.
Such a nerd, I love you. Me too.
Stairs there. No, not there.
Oh, not there. OK, we'll talk about it later.
Yeah, OK. Not till next time.

(23:12):
No, no, no, no, don't go away yet so.
So we're at the party and it's the it's now it's time for the
Let's jump on Stacey moment. And Tia gets really in our
feelings and is like the thing, the accent.
Phooey, darling. And it's like, oh, are you going
to gather someone? OK.
And I love how Stacey applauded afterwards and I was like, it
was a very dramatic scene. I like Tia, but it was very just

(23:33):
like the whole, don't know the accent for you.
It just felt like a lie. I'm just going to say yeah.
I also like your Tia and your Vanderpump are the exact same
voice. It's the same kind of I.
Mean. It's just exactly.
It's very, very posh. Very posh.
So that so Stacey's like whatever, OK, Tia.
And then Kiana's like, well, my turn, here I come.

(23:55):
So we were having a sisterhood moment and talking about
Phonique, and then someone went and told da da da.
And then Cookie comes over and Stacy's like this.
Check. Yeah, point, point.
I thought it was weird how Wendyjust butted right in.
It was good because she gave theassist.
Yeah, I think they had a conversation.

(24:17):
Stacy was ready when he gave herheads up and you know, maybe not
everything. I don't know if when he knew
everything right, but like when he was definitely like we
shouldn't talk about Monique without Monique here.
But also too, Monique said she'sdemonic but.
It also doesn't make. I mean, I guess it does say that
maybe whatever cookie says should be taken with a grain of
salt. Well, she's also different with

(24:37):
Karen, so a heavy grain of salt.What are you saying about Karen?
Recently freed Queen, Queen Karen of Potomac.
Certain times. Give her a standing ovation.
Yeah, I mean great first. I mean, I'm glad sort of Time,
yeah. But I mean, before Mia be lying,
Karen be lying. Yeah, We haven't talked about
Mia. No, we haven't.

(24:58):
But why? Well, she was arrested.
I know. But she's not on the show
anymore. We're we don't want to talk
about off camera stuff. Why would we talk about her?
No, I mean that's let's talk about her.
You. No, that's it.
OK, Yeah, she's unfortunate. It is for stealing furniture.
Yeah, we have a friend who is very, very, very upset, like via
text with us. Like, I just just wish that

(25:20):
these, these housewives, these black women would just stop, you
know, doing this. Yes.
So I'm not, I'm not making lightof it, but.
Rightfully so, yeah. And you know it just it's but.
I'm just surprised at our friends reaction.
I mean just being so. Like.
Well, because like. It was like, it was like, it
wasn't like rapid fire in text because there was really only
two texts, but it was like a bigparagraph.
I was like damn. Yeah, yes.

(25:43):
Yes, and I remember she'll probably listen to this.
We might need to cut this out. No, we're seeing her in a couple
of days anyway. No.
And again, we're not like, we'rejust saying like we were
surprised by, you know? Yeah, exactly.
It's understandable and. And it is disappointing,
especially I think in general, when housewife after housewife
after housewife, former or current, keeps getting in these

(26:04):
legal troubles, whether they're,you know, black or not.
It's just for the, you know. Idea.
I think it's troubling, you know, as black housewife,
absolutely black celebrities, tokeep doing these things and then
you lump exactly other black women into it.
I wasn't. I wasn't going to discount.
That oh, no, no, no. I'm starting to explain.
Like I think this might be your point of view.
You know, we shouldn't speak forher.

(26:25):
All right? Should we just have her on the
pod? Well.
She doesn't have a pod. Oh, should we bring the laptop?
Should we do that? She has opinions.
Maybe we can have her do a Salt Lake with us.
No, we're going to Salt Lake tomorrow.
OK. All right.
But no, he had like her opinion on like just housewives in
general. OK, we could do that.
Maybe bring a laptop with me anda mic.
But now that we know how to travel with it.

(26:46):
Well, we're going to bring your laptop anyways.
I guess I was, yeah. Usually do I Usually.
Bring my work laptop, but I can bring I can bring personal
laptop. I can just bring our plug in
mics. Oh yeah, Yeah, we can do that,
Phil. As we saw with Mormon wives, a
good good camera I can. Yeah, that Mormon Wives footage.
That was some good. Well, maybe it was doctored up
a. Little bit they, oh, maybe they

(27:06):
did profits. Like yes.
Yeah, that could be good. Because I was like, that was a
phone. Well, and they and I had that
that weird fake trail to it every so often where it looked
like digitized, like it was fakesurveillance footage from some
sci-fi movie. Surveillance footage time stamp.
So sorry. Back to so yeah.

(27:27):
So then he has to be like escorted, escorted out because
she was about to like pop off and Stacey like had No Fear.
Even though they're like, they're up high too, like you're
next to a like a, a balcony and you're pissing this woman off.
Maybe not. Well, it seems like Stacey got a
little brave towards the end. Like she just she's like put her

(27:47):
finger in her face and then she said don't put you in my face.
And then she kind of like started waving it out of there.
And then like once someone showed up to kind of take her
away. You can see the person walking
up Stacey like, oh, I can't put my finger over here.
It's like, oh, now you're getting brave now.
Like hey. You see the security abouts
because. Also, I would not put a pass
cookie just to reach across thattable and like even just with
her. Purse Molly Whopper.
Just whop her with that purse. Yes.

(28:09):
And again, you're next to like abalcony.
Yeah, I wouldn't have been, so whatever.
Yeah, we don't encourage violence.
No, that's what I'm saying. Like I I don't I didn't want her
to be Molly whopped and the cookie could have like just
comment. I don't know why cookie is a
thing. Well, because that's how they're
getting information about Karen at the time, etcetera and
apparently a friend of. Oh, then freaking Vivian.

(28:31):
Oh yeah. Oh my God.
I forgot Vivian and Stacey had the falling out over the
clothes. I'm Stacey.
Oh, hi, Vivian. Hi.
Hi, Pat, you down? If someone who I had beef with
were to come up and touch my person, yeah, in any way other
than like a nice polite, like, hug or something, yeah, I would

(28:53):
just be like, what the hell are you?
Worrying. Touching me.
And and in one sense, like I kind of did think, Oh, that's
kind of it's kind of I don't want to say not epic of Stacey,
but even for her to be like, oh,you know, I pat her on the head.
Like for her to say that in her confession I feel.
Like, she's like patting down her wig.
That's what she was just like referring to.
Oh. Because it was a little not not

(29:13):
fixed right? I don't know, but she was just,
it was very condescending. Yeah.
But to say that I'm just like, oh, OK.
And I mean, she like, stood there was like, oh, OK.
I don't know like. I love the flashback to the
reunion when when he's like, Oh yeah, she said F that B.
Yeah, that was good. That was good, but no, they kick

(29:33):
her, the Kiana trying to come inhot still like 'cause she ain't
got no business. And that's like, what?
What more is there? I'm like.
You know, makes the comment likeI wouldn't do something with the
wild my husband. I wouldn't let you around my
husband as well. Like, I wouldn't say anything
about my husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And say she'd be like, you don'thave wine.
It was so good. Like Wendy was like oh shit.

(29:54):
Yeah. And then they they showed like
they cut away and they like cut when they cut back to Kiana, she
was kind of like turn around looking back, like, well, yeah,
she's kind of right. She wanted to say something, but
she's like, I, I, I can't. She's like, look.
Damn it. Damn, Yeah, that was.
Like Stacey was like not having it.
Yeah, I mean, they like they need to stop coming for one

(30:18):
person. Like let's spread the wealth
out. If you're going to be coming at
each other, come at each other. Well, stop.
Stop coming with the person who you know is not going to give
you the reaction that you want. Well, that.
Doesn't mean she shouldn't be come for.
But no, but like, but you're notgetting anywhere with her.
So, and that was interesting when Tia said like, oh, you're

(30:38):
on a, she's on an island then you know, da da, da, da.
It's like, first of all, New Girl, calm down, calm down about
people being on islands, whatever.
But second, you know, she's got Wendy.
She's not totally on an island. But I think also Stacy doesn't
give a damn because I think she said I know who I am.
This is my truth. I am not going to be shaken.

(31:01):
You're not going to get me to admit something I don't want to
admit. And this is how it is.
I mean, very nice to you. My lies aren't my lies.
My. You're having some trouble
believing her yourself there, friend.
My. Truth.
My truth isn't affecting you, soI don't understand.
I understand all like the whole thought process of like, why am

(31:24):
I going to be friends with someone who was like a habitual
lie, right? Thank you.
But it's not influencing or affecting your day-to-day.
So I was like, whatever, you're cool, keep it surface.
Like it also feel, I feel like there's a way to deal with
someone like that. Other than trying I mean.
Other than that, I got your moment.
Right. Like also I'm, I'm someone who

(31:46):
had that in my life and I would always try to catch them.
So I don't think I'm any better with it, but I think in
hindsight, the way to do it is just to either.
I think the way you do it is just be condescending to them.
Like if every you know, if you really want to get something is
that if Stacey's going to continue to lie and lie and lie
to their face, if you just go ahead and like every time she

(32:07):
says something, just be dismissive of it and be like, I
just don't believe you. Or just, you know, I think that
would be one of the only ways toget through it.
And eventually it'll just drive her mad enough to just to be
like. Always be drive her mad enough.
Right, Eventually it would just have to be like all like you
guys. I'm not lying you.
Know no. She there's a there's a well.
We saw the trailer for the mid season, mid season trailer.

(32:28):
She does get upset. I think it's probably with
Wendy, you know, and she's like,why are you being this way?
Or they're like in like in theirtrip and.
Where are they going again? I don't know, but they had on
cowboy hats, it looked like. Oh, it's called Rock.
Oh. Angel invites them.
Oh, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(32:48):
So, but aside from that, I don'tsee her being shook.
And so I don't know. I just don't know what they want
from her, why they keep, you know, trying to do the same
thing, expecting a different action and what they think this
is going to achieve. Because it just, all it shows is
that in every single scene practically, except for maybe

(33:12):
the Angel house hunting one or home hunting if you will.
They can't say house hunters because you know.
Yeah, it's copyright, Copyright.And every scene they're talking
about Stacy. So talk about something else if
you do not like this person so much.
Because obviously they still know.
Didn't know how I was going to play.
They didn't know the populator that she would have, nor that

(33:33):
Annie Cohn would go on a podcastand say that she's one of the
best cast and says he's had in like years.
So now that they know, I wonder if it will change how they move.
And also beyond that, it's not her first season.
Like she's on the show. Just get along, you know?
But also, too, it's like, did you not see Giselle when you

(33:53):
like left her name off of all the goodies?
And she was like, well, that's that's, you know, she didn't
cry. She didn't like, you know, get
up on your in your face. She's like, you know, what
happened to my name? And then she moved on and you
thought you got her and she didn't.
Like you're taking these shots, but you're missing.
Your aim is bad and she's a moving target and she's not

(34:15):
going to let you. Get her, I'm thinking I'm.
Thinking. Of some, yeah, I'm thinking of
like a weird carnival game now where Giselle's taking her shots
and there's little Ding, Ding, you know Ding would mean she got
the shot. Yeah, yeah.
So it's just really funny to seethem try and she's like, Nope, I
don't think. I realized how much of A, you

(34:38):
know, fan of Stacy's you. Are I whenever someone whenever
there's a pile up one I just I just like her.
I think she's really weird and funny and enjoyable, but also
whenever there's someone everyone coming after one
person, I'm just like I'm not interested in that.
Yeah. So whether it be Angel, whether
it be Stacy, No, it's just like as you said, like spread it
around right any. Any pile up or any, you know,

(35:00):
concentrated attack is always just like, oh, this is kind of
gross. Yeah.
That that makes sense. Sorry the the dryer just stopped
and I heard the music little andnow I can't even remember what
the hell I was going to say next.
Stacey like Stacey? Oh, I like her.
I like her QVC stuff that peopleare posting on.

(35:22):
Oh gosh. Like I I so many things, she
says. I'm like, oh, that'll make a
great sound. Like I can't wait.
Well, it's like the there's likea little squirrel or something.
The Thanksgiving shirts, she's crying and she's like, oh, and
these, these charms are so beautiful.
And I just think in general, as a, you know, QVC host or someone

(35:44):
who's like selling are on cameraand on screen so many hours in a
row and you just kind of have tolike keep talking about whatever
the hell it is you're. Looking Oh my God, yeah.
Like she's really good at it, but it just leads to also just
some really weird phrases comingout of her mouth and I.
Think after a while, you don't know what you're saying.
It was like, yeah. And look at this sweater.

(36:05):
Yeah, it's look at this red. It's and then you know, they all
have weird funny name like it's it's fire engine candy apple
red. It's Razzie Razz.
Razz, right, Right. So oh, I, I live for those.
When everyone comes on, I'm like, oh, this is great.
So she's, she's, is she, is she currently on QVC?

(36:26):
No, she left QVC OK to do the housewives.
OK, I didn't know that maybe shewas still doing both but.
Yeah, because I was like in AI, don't know where that was, but
like she left where she was. Then that means someone just has
old recordings of Stacey on QVC.I never thought of it that way.
Like, how are you finding these things that you're putting on
TikTok? Like I mean does QVC keep like

(36:48):
repeats I must? Do they have a streaming?
Well, maybe they do, maybe they do, and they're just like
they're selling that item again,so they just put Stacey back on
selling it and who knows? I don't know.
My mom's not alive for me to askabout all the quirks of QVC.
I'm looking for a she would lovethis.
I know I man, she would probablywatch and be like, I remember
that Lady. I nearly bought that sweater

(37:11):
that I thought no. Yeah, I mean, we all have
parents and we used to give my mom the biggest amount of shit
for ordering from QVC all the time.
But some of the things she got from QVC and gave to us are the
greatest things that we like, Wecare of some.
We have these great Jersey sheets.
They're not. Porsche sheets, but sheets, she

(37:31):
got them from QVC. Love them.
And then all of our Tupperware, those snap lock things, great.
Like I I am worried about the day when we need more Tupperware
that we might have to order fromQVC.
I think we will. I think we will.
And then what if we become QVC people like my mother?
We're already old. It's just one one step further.

(37:51):
What's the wrong about that? I don't know, there's just
something weird about ordering, like things off of TV.
I mean, I've always wanted to doit.
I don't think I have but I woulddo it.
There's two things I always wanted to do and and one of them
was order out of the Sky Mall magazine from the airplane.
Never did that, never once, and now it doesn't exist.

(38:12):
Oh, true. True, but yeah.
What was the second thing? No, I don't remember.
It just, I was like, I got to get him back on task like this
really was the second no. It's really only one thing, but
it sounds better to say there's two things I've always wanted
to. Don't I?
Well, don't I? When I like spook out the
numbers, you know it's going to be good.

(38:33):
Oh God. So I forget my third one and I'm
like, well, you've I've made thepoint.
Made the point indeed. Sorry, this one started off a
little bit slow because I couldn't remember exactly.
I think because this episode went from the pride thing and
then it kind of went through allthe different lunches and
things. Well, also, we didn't start
talking about ourselves too. I was like thrown off by you
going right into the episode. I was like, oh.

(38:54):
You know, I did plan to do the thanks for listening.
Please like subscribe. Hey, thanks for listening.
Please like and subscribe. But I completely forgot.
Yeah. So I just wanted to get to it
also cuz I want to go down and watch that Bravo con thing when
we're done. So cute.
It's Sunday and I don't have theSunday scary's but I definitely
don't want to think about going to work tomorrow.
I mean, I'm just glad I really have like 2 days because we're

(39:17):
taking off Wednesday and yeah, it'll be a shorter week.
But also, yeah, I don't have thescariest, but also I will start
getting more anxious about like,oh crap, I have so much to do.
And like, you know, we were gonethe week before that and the
last week we, you know. We're sick basically.
I'm only working one day last week.
So that's, I think that's why I'm worried about tomorrow is

(39:39):
that I have a lot, I have a lot to do in a very short amount of.
Time. It's been a rough November, so.
It's right up to the long December.
Can't wait for the long December.
Really, all the things you were saying about the holidays
earlier, you made me think otherwise.
No, not that that just the song.Over, yeah.
There's reason to. Please don't, don't sing.
No, yeah, no singing this year. This year will be better than

(40:03):
the last. Actually, last year was great
too it. Was.
Yeah, Every year so far with us has been just fine with us.
Yeah. Oh, politically, let's.
Oh my God, I don't even go there.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah. And next year proves to be an
outstanding year for us. So we're going to have a banner
year next year and hopefully have some great news to to shout

(40:24):
out to the world. Yes.
So anyway, we want to talk aboutthings next time.
Till next time.
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