October 15, 2025 • 44 mins
It’s flowers, feelings, and full-blown drama in Salt Lake City. Whitney hosts a floral-themed wine tasting party that quickly blossoms into chaos.
Lisa insists she hasn’t been digging up dirt on Meredith, sparking a major blowup with Angie. Meanwhile, Britani and Angie clash over real estate, and a party psychic delivers emotional readings that hit close to home—especially for Lisa and Whitney’s marriages, and Bronwyn’s complicated relationship with her mother.
Mary steps in to encourage Angie to make peace with Lisa, but when Angie snaps back, Mary storms off, proving that even in a garden party, the thorns are never far from the roses.
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Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and I am Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
We're florals. Well, you have florals.
I have stripes because it's cold.
I know you're, you're dressed for October.
I am dressed for Whitney's partywhere I thought it was going to
be cold, but they're all outsideand you know, they didn't seem
like they were cold. Apparently it was springtime in
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Utah. That's what that's what Heather
taught us. And it the wind was picking up,
that might have been cold. Yes.
Yes, Brittany had upon her shawl.
Yes. Yeah, we, we had to turn our
heater on at the house today. We didn't have to, but got home
and it was 64° inside the house.I was like, yeah, we could use
6°, use some 70s. So are you glad I turned on the
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heat? I didn't really notice that.
I mean, Oh well, in that case, screw you.
Because it's gonna like, you know, be up in like the 70s or
something like the rest of the OR like the 60s and it's gonna
be 70s. That's true.
It's getting cold overnight because.
Yeah, it's cold. Yeah, we need to change from the
non Porsche to the non Porsche sheet.
We may need to do that. Or she should just make, you
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know, warm like fleece. Sheets.
But do you really need warm fleece sheets if you live in
Atlanta? It gets cold in Atlanta.
You were there for Christmas. That's true.
You. Maybe we.
Should see if Porsche makes fleece sheets.
I will. I will check on let's.
Look into that. Yes, I'm just happy to wear
sweaters again, although as I already told you, I'm a little
disappointed in my sweater collection.
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I need to refresh my sweaters. Well, you might be getting some
more sweaters for cruise moves. Well, don't get me too many.
We've been spending too much money.
I know, I know, Too much money. No more money.
Can't spend that. Luckily, Bravo Con's coming up.
We won't be spending any money on that.
Dinners and. Hotel.
Oh my God, Yeah, we have a payout, Yeah.
Airport parking, right? All those things.
(02:02):
Right cabs or. Burrs, I'm going to leave my
phone in a cab. Not on my watch.
Oh. Yeah, probably a good thing we.
Won't do. Oh, so I love Heather saying
Vegas that's on a vacation, that's a road trip.
Well, it made me think from SaltLake, it can be a road trip.
Like it's only. I mean, it's still a long drive
to go from Salt Lake to Vegas, but it's like.
Yeah, like, I mean, the vacationshould be like, I I'm going to
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take you to Paris, not going to take you to Vegas.
It's actually one that you're, you know, if you're going to be
called a gold digger for, it's not a trip to Vegas.
If he's got that awesome busman money and then he should be able
to like take her to like really nice places.
Just cancer. Also, just seeing him talking to
Justin, I was like, he's. Such a goober.
Such a goober. I don't, I don't understand what
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she sees. And we're in love.
It's like, are you? Are you really?
When he's saying shit like that,No.
Anyway, this was an interesting episode and the fact that it
started and took place all the same place.
Bottleneck, which they usually don't do.
They usually do these episodes of except for premieres.
So I liked that. It was like, oh, we're all we're
at the same place the entire time.
(03:05):
Yeah, bring it because that's when they like really shine or
like, you know, just the hilarity and the takes,
takedowns and it's just all put together so well.
I really hope at that editors panel at Bravo Con, we need you
have to have someone from Salt Lake.
Oh, I'm sure. Like how do you do all this?
Yeah, I could have done without Whitney's little sing songy
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poem. I mean not.
As clever as I think anyone the.Hoped wouldn't point into the
song, no. So I mean, maybe there's just
unless, unless there's like something I'm not understanding.
But yeah, it could have. I could have done without that.
Is the episode title Flowers forSpring groundbreaking?
I don't know. I have no idea what that's going
to be. We'll figure it out when we're
done, but lead us, Lead us. Yes, basically when he had a
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party and she wanted to was going through old photo albums
and wanted to like get back to her old self and have fun again
and you know, get tattoos and drink and get on the pole.
And when when she described all those things, she was like, I
used to be like, I used to drinkand have fun and get on the pole
and get tattoos. Like, yeah, you were.
It's called in your 20s. Exactly.
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That's what it was. And you grew up and you had kids
and so. The end, yeah.
And that's what happened. I felt really bad for her when
she was kind of talking about, you know, how and we're going to
jump around because that's what we do here.
We jump around, but we're like Cypress Hill.
I'd felt really bad when she wassaying that, like she, the damn
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cat just distracted me and I can't remember what I was going
to say. I felt bad for when she was just
saying that like, she doesn't feel like she can, you know, be
herself and that like, she had like kind of give up a lot of
that's, you know, her, her funness.
Yeah, I didn't really. Because of Justin, cause like
she got his, got him fired and she didn't feel like his equal
and all that stuff. So like, I felt really bad.
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That sucks to have to be like, you know, shove yourself into a
box. And yeah, it's like she felt
like she had to be, you know, I am a business owner, so I need
to look and dress a certain way.Because when we deviated from
that, you know, and Justin got fired because of, like, the
salaciousness of that episode. Whatever, whatever.
But yeah, the idea of I couldn'tbe me.
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And you know, for the last two years and even after all that of
pretending to be somebody else, I still failed with this
business. And so where am I now?
And that's. The cats are at the loft at the
spiral stairs again, so they're fine, they're playing, they're
going to be good. Yeah, they're.
Going to be good. So, yeah, so just like it.
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And you're right, it is sad. It's it's very sad.
And just to let you know, with with my birthday coming up and
us going wine tasting for my birthday, I'm planning on and on
becoming fun and and flirty again.
And I'm not I'm going to take myself out-of-the-box get.
Ready. So funny, like you could never
not be you. It's just.
Oh, really? Yeah, I don't think that a bad
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way like you are always going tobe you.
What are scabs doing? Don't worry about her, she's a
cat. She's got a tail.
Helps her balance. Yeah, Yeah.
You can never not be you. And like I would ever want you
to not be you. If we like started a a wild rose
business, I'd be like you still be you.
You still be you. How do you know?
I wanted to start a lotion business, actually jewelry ready
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for Alibaba. It's going to be great.
Or Brittany. Oh my God, Goosebumps.
How could he know this? Nobody know this?
No one knew about my daughter. And maybe strange.
Oh my gosh, he must be psychic. So let's talk about Terrence,
her wildly gay, overly eager psychic.
Or probably. From Key West, I want to meet
with him. I you know.
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Which is so weird because you don't like we.
You've had tarot readers before.Like it?
That was that. That was that crappy tarot
reader. I had a person I met through
work that was a psych. It was a psychic.
I haven't seen him in many years.
It was back before my current job.
Right, Right. Right.
Yeah. And like he would.
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It's funny, like things he wouldpredict didn't really pertain to
me, but they. Oh, he's fucking amazing.
What they did like, pertain to Ashley.
Like he called like certain things and I was like, oh wow,
that's really interesting. Could he predict me?
I asked about a relationship thing but like I can't remember
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what he said. But no, that was like way before
you. No one had predicted you.
I love how Whitney was like, hey, if I flew you out, yes,
I'll do it. Like just immediately.
Do you come to Yes? Yes.
What do you mean go somewhere? You're going to pay me to do
something? Yes.
Venmo me the I'm going. To be on an episode of
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Housewatch. Done.
Now I'm going to look him up. Terrence.
What was his? Wait?
I'm Terrence the psychic. We can Google him.
They kept she kept calling him something other than a psychic.
It wasn't psychic. Oh, and he's intuitive.
Intuitive, yes. Yes, yes.
But I I enjoyed his intuition. Mary did not.
He thought she might he might speak of.
Speak the devil might speak through him, yes.
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Yes, because he's a soothsayer. That's so it says in the Bible,
yes. So Bible does a lot of things
very. Well, I mean, but also is I
think I think it would be, you know, a relevant point that he
doesn't not called him selfie soothsayer.
So I mean, although the devil can be called by many different
names I think. Yeah, it's like you haven't met
this person. You haven't like SAT.
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I understand it was similar. To the voodoo stuff.
Counting, yeah. But voodoo has a much more
negative connotation, so I couldsee those good Christian ladies,
you know, not wanting to. I could see though that like if
he walked in and was like, hi, I'm a soothsayer, then yeah, red
flag, red flag, don't do it. But he's like, come and meet
with me if you want. Like, it wasn't like, yeah.
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He's like, he's like, hi, I brought these really wrinkled
cards that I've dropped to the bathtub 100 times.
Here we go. But no, I of course Mary wasn't
going to sit down with them. Like it didn't take a it didn't
take a psychic to tell you that true Trump, but yes.
So yes. So she invites them.
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All the women meet there. Talk about their outfits.
We're going to talk about the location where there's a murder
suicide, according to Mary, right in front of the dog, who
is never right. Never quite right.
It looked like you said like a Hobbit house.
Yeah, I mean, it had that weird like, boy, who's that guy who
does the garden scenes the. Happy collabs.
No, no, no, no, not the not the happy painter, no those stupid
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things the that artist would always like have pastoral
pictures, like paintings that sell in the mall shops.
What's that? Guy, right?
What's his name? I don't know who you're talking
about. I don't.
It looked like Kincaid. Yeah, Kincaid.
It looked like a Kincaid galleryphoto.
Like gone wrong. Like mixed with like steampunk
Hobbit Shire. It was really team fuck.
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It was kooky. I mean, I could see the whimsy
of it all for like being a garden setting and all that.
But well, like nobody knew that there were vineyards in Utah.
I didn't know either so. I mean, with the success that
wineries have across the country, I'm sure that they, you
know, if they have a chance to grow any rape, they will.
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I remember once being in the Dallas Fort Worth airport for
work. I was travelling for work and
between one of the terminals, they're like, come taste some
Texas wine. And there's like this.
It wasn't even, it wasn't even arestaurant or it was like, it
was like a kiosk in the mall. It was like the size of one of
those. And they just had like bar
stools set up. And it's like me and like two
other people just drinking wine at the airport.
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I was drinking. I went at the airport because I
was at the airport and I wanted to have a glass of wine, but I
wasn't. But to find out, like, oh, Texas
wine. Was it good?
As far as wine goes. I'm actually like Texas tea for
like, but I really hope it has. Some answer thing is like I'm
not I don't have a great pallet for wine.
Like even though we live in Northern California and you
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know, we're exposed to wine, I don't necessarily like oh, this
is great. Like is it wine?
Yes. Does it taste fine?
Yes, I'm trying to taste something else to make it wine
rhyme. So why are we going wine tasting
on your? For your birthday, because we've
always talked with our friends about how we've never gone wine
tasting together for, you know, well, we have, but we live here.
We don't go. Often have we not gone wine
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tasting with this exact group? Of we have, but we've only done
it that one time and we haven't done it since, especially since
we moved back up here from San Francisco.
So that's what I was saying. We've gone with them.
We've always talked we should gowine tasting again.
We never. Right, right.
OK, but yeah. And what are you complaining
about? You're not drinking any wines.
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I'm just driving, you drunken fools.
Look, it's my birthday. I I.
Food better be good. It is birthday I.
Had to play the birthday card toget you to do this of course.
Of course, as you said, you suggested this in like June.
I'd be like whatever bro, you get an Uber and call me when
you're done. Stop.
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No, that'd be good, Utah. Wines.
Utah wines, Yeah, Pairings. Pairings.
Mary doesn't wine these salmon. Any parasites that are going to
make a family in her belly? I like that Heather was like,
no, it's smoked salmon, it's already been cured it don't
worry about it. Right.
It's not like, but it's like theRalphs.
But it's not that sushi does that either.
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Like, that's everyone's misconception, including yours,
about sushi. Is it just raw fish?
Well, yeah, it'd be like. Dangerous.
But I'm just not like a huge fish person.
It doesn't appeal to me. So yeah.
The texture of it is weird and it takes a little getting used
to so. Or not.
Look, I did vegan sushi with this same group of folks.
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That's because we and I like by the.
Way, which by the way, we arguedabout we we got in a fight like
because we just started dating and you were like, oh, I don't
want to. Do that wasn't just started
dating, it was that was end of 2017.
Yeah, so we've been dating for like 9 months.
For a minute. For a minute.
And we didn't get into it like right before we saw that Jessica
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Chastain movie where she was. We have a good movie.
Yeah. What was that one?
It looked. Like it was like in the dealings
and she was like an expert like.Yeah, that was a good movie.
Yeah. I keep wanting to say something,
something something Millie. No.
Molly. Yeah, Molly's game, Molly's
Game. We got there together.
Terrific. I love it.
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Millie. Molly.
Yeah. So their looks though.
OK. Their looks I when she said
bring the florals right, I thought I was expecting like a
tamra floral party like they would all show wearing their
florals and no no one really showed up.
I mean they kind of like had a whisper of floral and a lot of
their. Stuff.
So let's break it down. Whitney with the very pink
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dress, which is like a lot with the bow in the back, right?
She's done better. Heather had the Lacey brownish
thing which had flowers I guess.It looked like where those
flowers like they look like bells at the end.
Oh, like the little yeah, I know.
Yeah, that's what it looks like,something hanging off her.
Yeah. Actually what they're called.
Yeah, so they're hanging off her.
I was like, yeah, Mary was in the suit.
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Very Mary. I don't understand her bangs.
That was just. That was just a weird look at
the rat that couldn't contain the bangs.
And then I feel like Mary is usually so put together
normally, I don't see why she was just like.
I feel like maybe that wind thatknocked all the flowers off the
table may have been acting up a few times or like that may have
made her hair. Even I'm surprised that Lisa
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Barlow actually like, stooped literally to get the flowers and
help when they put them back on,I was like, really well.
She did it last week and she didit again.
I don't like this Lisa Barlow pajama.
That's her aesthetic that like pajamas as.
It hasn't always been. I feel like she's trying to make
fetch happen with these pajamas.Like it just seems this year
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she's really pushing hard on these pajamas.
She likes a flowy outfit. It's never really she's always
pants. It's never very binding, but it.
I don't know, It'd be one thing.I think she's.
I think it's a serious miss for me because it's not like when.
In the shoes. With that cut of everything
being so flowy, I kind of, if itwas like 70s, sort of like disco
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flowy, I'd be into it. But it just looks like pajamas
and not even and not like classykaftan pajamas.
It just looks like I'm too lazy to put on something else.
And her justification is probably like, whatever, these
pajamas are, $5000. Exactly, if not more.
And oh, I'm sorry, just because they cost a lot of money doesn't
mean they look good. Even Louis Vuitton makes
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mistakes. Yes, even Blenciaga makes many
mistakes. Trash bag.
So, Meredith, what the hell? What the hell was that?
What the hell was that? Like she was like, hold my beer
Broadway and I'm gonna like be denim flower applique.
When she walked in, I don't think I recognized that the
boots. We're a part of the.
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Whole thing and then they did that on purpose they must have
because they let Mary do her whole like she looks like germs,
which kind of I I see what she's.
Talking about kind of like The Last of Us.
Oh yeah, a little. Poroseps on the other place,
yeah. And then when she walks in for
her psychic reading, you're like, oh God, there's boots that
match it like that. It's so much look, it was she
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really was trying to outdo Bronwyn, which I think, you
know, once she took off her coatwas a very pretty like butterfly
flower situation. Yeah, her hair look good, like a
minimal. Like it's so many like she does.
I think what she does over the top of the outfit, she'll do
like a minimal makeup. And I think it you know, because
otherwise it could be look a little bit drag queenie, right,
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right. So.
I do like that when Braun, when I mean that, I think that's the
difference for like when you're going bold is like just go too
much and it's OK. Like even Meredith's outfit, if
it like if there would have beensomething else to bring it over
the top and it wasn't just like this like monochromatic kind of
blue flower thing, I would have been happier with it.
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But Bronwyn takes it over the top and I'm like, OK, yes, I'm.
That's her personality and it fits like Meredith.
It's so many cuz like I just said, Meredith's confessional
with that silver suit looks amazing, right?
Hands down the best confessionalso far of the season.
Like her makeup's great, just like the nice touch of boob, you
know, cleavage and it's just so put together and the hair, it's
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just like, that's probably her best confessional look ever and
the best all together of the season for me.
I can't wait to edit a clip together that has to change the
captions on Touch of Boob. Because, you know, some people
do a touch of boob and it's like, I don't maybe a little
more. Let's button some buttons.
Yeah, yeah. And then Brittany, yeah, she was
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there. Exactly.
Yeah, It was a pretty color. Yeah.
And. And she was there.
Nothing special. She was.
And what, Angie? I did not like Angie's.
Yeah, I. Like, why are you wearing
leopard? Yeah, was it leopard?
Yeah. Or.
Cheetah or cheetah? It was it was some sort of
animal. Floral situation.
And I should have known as soon as she like brought that thing
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and I was like what is she goingto do?
It's like the scroll. Oh yeah, the.
Prop Queen Yeah, like I don't need all that.
We'll get to it later, but I don't need it.
I think the first piece of dramathat really, really reared its
head at the party was why Angie listed her house with someone
other than Britain. I think the second piece of
drama is Brittany is a real estate agent.
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Yeah, Is that I? Forgot about I.
Forgot. Did we ever really know?
I didn't think they were talkingabout work, right?
It's always about Jared and her announcement, so I didn't know
that she. Was a real estate yes and I mean
I guess. You know what we did know?
Because we this is back when that Salt Lake real estate show
was airing and we're like, oh, Brittany could go work for that.
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Oh yeah, yeah. Awesome.
And then that show just disappeared off the radar.
So that's probably. That show was that last year or
the year? Before that was either earlier
it was when Salic was airing, soI think it was.
There's had been last year. Maybe they're gonna bring it
back, who knows? Maybe, I don't know, it needs a
bit more. Yeah.
It did. They need a little bit more.
Oh right, because they had the weird guy with the face.
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Who with the strippers? Yeah, and oh God, he he's made,
he went to a stripper. Oh my God.
Forgot about the fuck got that guy.
That was it was they were tryingto make a high 6 drama but it
was pretty low. See, very low stinks.
But yeah, I mean, to get, I don't like giving Lisa Barlow
credit, but Angie does go kind of low because like, she was
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going a little bit like mean Brittany just about the real
estate agent, like whatever you live in Provo, I live in.
And then they descended into this conversation.
Which part of Salt Lake City is the most prestigious?
That's classic housewives. Like, no, my neighborhood, no,
my neighbourhood's the best neighborhood.
I'm like, like, I don't know. You're all in Salt Lake City,
UT, so I don't know if. I mean, it's not Beverly Hills.
(20:01):
Yeah. But yes, I want to now research
the best parts of WE. Utah, we should still take a
trip to Utah. I think, again, for anyone who
might try to come for me about Utah, and you know, Utah has
Utah's nice. I think it's beautiful, it's
lovely. I'm just saying if you're going
to argue over what's most prestigious, I don't think you
know if you have a whole list ofcities going on that Salt Lake
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makes the top. Where is that socialite lady?
She could have been like, well, it's wherever I live.
Right, my $5,000,000 mansion or whatever it was.
And to Angie's point, you don't sell a $4 million house
overnight like you. You don't.
I mean, it's interesting that it's been on the market for 200
days. I mean, a price adjustment
typically isn't the best thing. And Brittany had a point that
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you priced it correctly the first time.
So people don't see your price adjustment because we look at
real estate all the time and we're like, oh, they had to drop
the price because it was probably priced too high.
But I, you know, so Brittany knows a bit of what she's
talking about, so and she didn'thave to come so hard at right.
That was a little like, oh, and also it's like, I don't know.
At this point, I'm really starting to root for Brittany as
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the underdog. And just like, oh, stop picking
on her. You keep kicking her when she's
down. Stop.
It right talk about her hair andall this.
Like, I mean, it's fun that it'sbecome kind of an ongoing joke.
But like she's like the the Meg of Family Guy.
They're just like, oh, we're gonna pick on Brittany.
But and also to Angie's defense,it's a very particular type of
(21:28):
home. I don't know how many people
are. Very specific, yeah.
Don't know how many people are really looking for a completely
transparent. Like, do they?
Was that like their dream home that they built?
For them, no, I have no idea. Yeah.
I mean, the problem is there's no railing at the basement.
They probably can't get anyone to to buy it.
People keep slipping down the stairs.
I mean you have people all know about Monica's tumblings, so I
(21:52):
would hope she would have put itin the.
Rail, I mean, they have to put it into disclosures.
If I was, if I was the rage, I'dbe like first thing put in the
railing and we're going to get like some good photos of that
railing so no one could say you don't have one.
I wonder, and they must not for $4 million, they're not having
open houses or else every fan inthe Valor would be there
looking. At it invite only.
I mean, not that we haven't goneand looked at $3,000,000 houses
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in town, but that's because theywere part of that agrihood or
whatever it was. They were cloak, yeah.
Yeah, they were like $2.8 million.
I'm glad that I just go in now and don't pretend that I can
afford. Those, I mean it's like they
have to expect looky loos and then maybe that looky loo could
actually be a real buy, right? You can't just say it's not
(22:38):
exclusive enough, right? You know, to, to just say like,
you have to like, you know, contact the agent to see it
because you're not going to get a sale that way.
And also, now that I don't know,now that Sotheby's seems to be a
real estate agency for like justany old house, I mean, it's kind
of lost. That used to mean something.
I know when you used to think, oh, auctions and lots of money,
and now you're just like, oh, might as well be Century 21.
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So. I'm not.
I don't even know if Century 21's still even a real estate.
It's looking we still see those sides.
I don't know, I don't even pay attention anymore.
Yeah, I do. So jinx Yomiko.
So then a glass of. Water.
The drama then continues, I think with Meredith saying she
(23:22):
needed to confront for a. Second, basically went like
this. Lisa, I've heard that you said
things about my family. No, I didn't.
OK, Lisa, I'm good. Yeah, and then with Lisa doing
the whole I don't, I didn't say anything, but I suspect Satan
knows what I something. Because, well, Angie was
grinning like the Cheshire cat, right?
(23:43):
Yeah, right. But yeah, to call her Satan,
unless you're a Stacy, Stop calling people, I said.
Yeah, that, that's a bit much bit much.
And then that's what bugs me is that Angie?
Well, and then before that, likeHeather interesting enough
saying like, I don't know why Mirror's just like sweeping this
other rock. Oh, right, it could be true.
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Why didn't you say that in scene'cause she's afraid of Lisa?
Carla, I mean, it seems like from the scenes from next week
that maybe Heather does start kind of Lisa about like, you
know, you're I mean, it's alwaysit's going to be couch like in
sarcasm. Like, you know, you're not the
best friend, like you're not you're not an easy friend to
have. Yeah, you know, so I'm sure
that's probably what we're gonnasee, but.
(24:25):
I'll be like the first start of this possible downfall of their
friendship, but yeah, you're saying.
But why? Why Angie didn't elaborate and
take a moment to say no, But yousaid these things and it means
and that's. Why I say exactly what she said,
right? Like she had receipts about
like, oh, this is the the mean text you sent me.
(24:46):
But what did she say exactly to you about digging up dirt about
Meredith? Stick to that, right?
Because then you might say something that might trigger
marriage to be like, Oh, I did say that to Lisa or that is
true, right? You know, like, oh, maybe
someone did shoplift, you know? So that's why the only thing I
can think of is either they tookall that out like they didn't
(25:09):
because it was ultimately irrelevant towards the final,
you know, blow up of this episode.
So either that all happened and they talked about it, but it
really went nowhere. So they just decided not to show
it because it just got boring because Meredith on her Xanax
and Lisa were just like, no, I didn't say that I didn't.
OK. All right.
Whatever, say no, because the real fight here, it's not about
Meredith. That's just the entryway of
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Angie. Just trying to like, you know,
poke it, Lisa. It's really about their fights.
Right, which I don't like that the way it was presented and if
this is how it went down, I don't like this about it is that
Angie was just like using that. It makes it seem like Angie is
using Meredith just to come in, upset the apple cart and cause
(25:53):
some sort of kerfuffle so she can go, oh, yeah, and then
you're mean to me too. Like it was just all this so she
could miss or redirect to her inthis conversation and text about
the product and. All that, As we said last week,
there was no way that Meredith was going to flip on Lisa, even
if she probably does believe there's a kernel of truth to
that, right? She and Lisa are on the same
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side. She probably isn't like many of
the other women in the group. I'm saying this, we're both
Meredith and Lisa. So it's like they are going to
stick together and you know, they're not going to be best
friends like they were like Season 1, but they're not going
to have a rift so that they can be used against each other
because I'm sure they do know a lot of horrible shit about one
(26:34):
another. So it's a friendship of
convenience in a lot of ways, I'm sure.
Right. Yeah.
I enjoy through all of this thatBronwyn's able to kind of be
sitting in the background and like, yeah.
And just kind of kind of do whatHeather does as well.
Just like. Well, she's right.
Yep, that's true. They're so similar, Sheena,
(26:54):
they're so similar. I like the other ones that
including along with Mary are saying like this is stupid.
Just say you're sorry and stop hurting each other or trying to
hurt one another and we can all move on, you know?
But they were just like as Whitney said, they both wanted
the last word. They're just shouting like
random shit like the Superman and you know you're I want.
(27:17):
To know what the Superman means.At we'll get to a three, I'm
sure. And then the you know, the the
12, the 12 was not. No the 12 laces or threads.
Threads on both sides and you had a facelift like look like
you went through a wind tunnel. So I, I'm kind of with Angie on
this though, and that's just whoI am.
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Like, I don't, I, I can see where the frustration is.
I'm not going to let Lisa off the hook.
And that's she started screamingat everyone like you've been
married to, you've all gone backto her.
You've all like, let her get away with this.
Like, why do we continue to do that?
And, and that's true because Lisa's doing the thing that she
always does, which is she has noactual nothing to actually say.
(28:03):
So she just starts screaming really loud.
About things that may or may notbe true.
Right. That isn't what we're talking
about at all. And just like Angie needs to be
reaching out to a soup company now and make get a deal with
some with Campbell's Soup. Actually, I don't eat soup.
I don't know anybody who has soup.
I don't know of a soup man. I don't know why she's doing
(28:25):
this. I get what she was saying of,
you know, Lisa says these horrible things.
It throws them out and I look like shit, you know, she's
questioning my business, questioning my integrity.
I'm a pillar of the community. I don't, I don't appreciate
that. And I'm not going to let it go
for the sake of the show or thisfriend group, whatever.
(28:45):
And the others are just like, let's just let it go and
whatever. But I, I get what she's saying,
but at the same time, you have to move on.
But also, we know Lisa's capableof an apology.
Why can't she just give one to Angie?
Ove said. It really horrible things.
I don't think Angie wants apology.
I don't want Angie to get an apology.
I want Lisa to just admit that she's done horrible things.
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I don't need an apology from her.
The fact that they were kind of,you know, the fact that Lisa
walks out without even, you know, saying anything, it's just
that was so ridiculous. But it's so, I mean the whole
like you talked about like kid, it's like it was not really.
It wasn't like she was saying your kid is the reason why your
product didn't sell. She's saying you're the reason
(29:29):
why your kids product didn't sell.
Because. You weren't doing the thing that
you're supposed to do professionally, which is market
it. And I think what she said last
year about Henry was way worse about how he just stays up
playing video games, making it seem that Lisa isn't monitoring
her child and. Neglecting him.
Exactly. So talking about my kids product
that you probably haven't thought about in ages, like, I
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mean, it's not. They're worse things you could
say. Yeah.
I mean, I do see what Lisa's saying about Angie having thin
skin because it did seem that Angie, and you reminded me of
this, is latching on to this reputation that she's bad in
business or she's somehow her businesses are failing because
she was like, all my credit cards are my name.
And it seemed very important to Angie to like, throw all her
credit cards and like. She was like stop throwing your
(30:15):
money on the ground throwing cards.
It's like freaking Britney like.And then it's funny, Heather,
like I've never actually held a black card, right.
I don't. I think I've I think I have once
I forget whose but. I've.
I think I've transacted. Something titanium card, yeah.
I think for work one time I ran black card.
(30:38):
But anyway, yeah, I just, I'm tired of Lisa yelling over
people. I, I I'm all for Angie
continuing to do it because I think that Lisa doesn't think
she's doing or has done anythingwrong, whereas I think Angie
knows full well what she's doing.
And maybe Lisa does too. But the fact is that she won't
(30:58):
admit to it. And all she does is all this.
What about ISM of like, what about?
It's like, OK, we're not talkingabout that.
We're talking about how you are.I think the good point of you
can't control Lisa, you can onlycontrol your reaction.
So they both have thin skin. They both need to, you know,
just let this go and roll off their backs because it's just
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they're not going to. I if I was Angie, I would just
be like, whatever, you're going to say shit about me.
I'm not letting it get to me. I'm ignoring you.
You know, there are seven other ladies I can hang out with, six
other ladies I can hang out with.
Like I'm I did too math. I like Bronwyn and they're like,
I'm even starting to like Brittany.
No, Angie said. No, Angie said.
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The problem was like, I'm accepting a hug from Britney.
Which brings us to the terrible readings.
Oh yes. So what was it, Brittany?
He was spot on about Brittany. Who knows where he got that
information? That was shady of the editors.
Yes. Heather is that she's kind of
(32:03):
like new beginnings, like her old.
Yeah, and that her love life hasn't been going well.
It's kind of. She never shows it, right?
Yeah, sometimes Bronwyn was probably like, you know, the
saddest of like. Yeah, you should.
Make amends with your mother because you might not have it
for very long. And look out for that bread.
What? Sorry.
Look out for that blood work. Yeah.
(32:24):
And that's a. That's a.
Really. That was very.
Heavy thing to say. Yeah.
You know, part of me is already thinking, you know, he's done
research and watched the show, so maybe he knows.
Well, he wouldn't have known about that stuff is new because
this is her first season showingher mother.
Did she say any of that to Whitney or anything?
And Whitney pass it on to. Him.
I don't think so. I think, I don't think this is a
(32:45):
Gin Aiden situation. No, no, no, with endorsements
and and whatnot. What was?
Lisa's, yeah, which she wouldn'tshare with anybody because she
can't be vulnerable, right? The whole storyline of it all,
of John Barlow and they're growing apart, even though
they're best friends and, you know, and marriage is hard.
(33:06):
I beg to differ, but. Here, hold my beard now, yeah.
That was interesting. Yeah, I mean same kind of thing
was kind of Whitney's situation as well, that communication
wasn't working well and that she.
Was upside down. Yeah, she wasn't really talking
to Justin about the feelings that she's having about
surrounding her business inadequacies.
(33:28):
And that she needs to like go back or not go back but find
herself again in a sense, right,right.
And you know, it's almost like you know, be yourself and or
love what you do or do what you love and the rest will fall in.
Yeah, do what you love and then you're never, never working.
I don't. I remember.
There's a lot of cliches. We Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What was Meredith's? Did we talk?
(33:50):
About that, someone may be dealing with mental health
issues. And she seemed to be like, uh
huh. Yeah.
OK. And then?
And then it was. Oh, Angie, that the.
The horse was gonna get hurt, and then it did.
That was crazy, Yeah. Like she threw the horse, it's
leg broke and that was the injured.
(34:11):
I mean, I, I hope that's the injured horse.
I would feel so really awful as an intuitive to be like,
especially, especially if like part of your thing is just kind
of leading, you know, following threads to the end and be like,
oh, you have a daughter. Oh, that's right.
Oh, and she rides horses. Oh, okay.
It would be so hard for me to say.
(34:32):
And then your daughter might getin a horse riding accident and
then he, he, he was very clear to say your daughter will be
fine, it's just the horse won't be.
OK, well then we'll just shoot him because that's what happens.
I'm. Just like I just got to be so
like, I couldn't say that to another person.
I don't think I could like, especially in some sort of, I
(34:52):
don't know. I know a lot of people don't.
I know a lot of people take these things seriously.
As we found out, Tamara on Orange County consults A
psychic. Didn't we just hear that on two
teams? She was mentioning something
about that. I don't think.
So we'll we did. We'll talk about that later.
Yeah. But anyway, like, I know people
take this seriously, so it's notall fun and games, but like in
this context for the show, like it seemed to be like, oh, it's a
(35:15):
light hearted, we're gonna have a fun party and I want you to
come out and tell people. But maybe that's holy.
It was basically, let's go into this room and cry.
Let's go through that. Everyone else has to walk
through if they need to. Leave that was a horrible setup
and just the Whitney 1 though. Just beware of, you know,
certain friends that you know and.
Your life? Yeah.
(35:36):
Can we? My favorite person of the entire
episode, The wine Lady came out.I have another wine if you want.
As they're like ripping each other's faces off.
It was evident to me that Angie at least had had some wine as
she was. I mean, I felt like when she
just could not be consoled even after she was removed from the
(35:58):
table, that was now that she kept going on and on and on
about it. And that's something that like,
I don't know, I feel like she was very raw because her
inhibitions were down from the alcohol and.
And then the, the crying and like, I won't let her do this to
me anymore. And you know, neither one,
neither one of them could be consoled like the, the the level
of emotion and energy was like out of 30 and they were just
(36:21):
like being pulled away. And they're like going back to
each other, like finish the fight and then.
No. And I think for Angie to have
reacted that way to Mary when Mary kind of did that, I think
that the only thing I can think is alcohol would have had her
been like, no, this is for real.Like this is the most important
feeling I've ever felt in my life.
(36:42):
That's the sort of, you know. I have to get this off my chest
that be like suppressed by Lisa Barlow and I'm not going to
like, you know, right, play, go along and get along, get along.
To me, that just sounds very much like drunk verbiage right
there. Just like chaotic energy and I
as much as it looks chaotic, I'msure being in it must have been
10 times that. And I understand why Mary was
(37:04):
like, I don't like this probablyreminds her of her mother.
And it's like, I gotta get out of here.
And, you know, being genuinely hurt that Angie was like coming
at her that way of like, you know, I've had your back, you've
had mine. We're cool.
And you're just like, lop me in with these other chicks, you
know, and this whole like, you want me to kiss Lisa's ass.
(37:25):
It's like, when did we ever say that no one wants you to like
for Heather to be like, we don'twant you to kiss Lisa's ass.
Let me rub your back. But I mean, that must be what it
feels like to be in the midst ofall that when everyone knows
that Lisa's behaves a certain way and puts up with it.
I mean, it was something that I,I didn't think of.
(37:45):
And I, I was trying to think about that in a lot of ways,
what Mary said about. But this is who she's always
been Like when you know. Who she is?
When you were friends with her, you were fine with this.
Right. Or the fact that like you, and
it's not as if Lisa said dig up dirt on Meredith and.
And the answer's like, I'm aghast.
(38:06):
I couldn't do that to to Meredith.
That's unethical. She probably was like, what
should I do? Yeah, exactly.
Like what? Like if I was married, I would
say, what did you do? And she suggested that.
Right, Right. Right.
Because hello. Now that you're in a fight with
her now it's become a moral dilemma.
And I need to confess this to Meredith again.
(38:28):
If I was married, too, I'd be like, this has nothing to do
with me. Are you trying to like, you
know, be on my side or whatever?It was so funny when Meredith
was like, here's a here's sort of like, wipe her face.
Yeah. So thank you, Meredith.
I, I do feel like Angie made it very clear though, that like,
I'm bringing this up because I'm, you know, want to cause
shit. Like I know that Meredith is
(38:50):
under no delusions about that. So I mean, I get what you're
saying though, but. It's not about her.
I forgot she was there at the end of the episode.
Well, it seemed. Everyone else walked away.
I thought maybe they just didn'tshow.
Her. Well, I thought that she chased
after Mary, but she probably couldn't in those boots.
She's like, let her go, I'll call you.
(39:13):
I really, I really hope, Meredith, I'm sorry, I really
hope Mary and Angie can get overwhatever this.
I feel they'll maybe like haven't argument but get to a
good place by the end of next episode.
I hope so, I feel. Like they go on the boat.
I feel like this is kind of the first time in the entire series
that I've seen Mary kind of justifiably upset, in my
(39:34):
opinion, where she was like, like, girl, I was trying to help
you and this is what I get for it.
No, I you're not going to talk to me like that.
And like she got emotional. I think you can see that she.
Definitely was emotional, yes. Previously when Mary, when
Mary's done things and like you said, no, you know, like when
she take Meredith out of the house, right?
It just seemed performative, whereas this seemed very
(39:55):
genuine. Also too, she's going through
like the Robert Junior stuff andso she's probably like when she
was like this is nothing. She's like this is nothing in
comparison to real shit that's happening to us, right?
This little like who stole someone's credit card or
whatever is BS. And you're grown women, you
should just like figure this outand move the F on.
I keep thinking for. Dumb fights.
(40:16):
Yeah but I keep thinking for me and I get hung up on it so much
when I know someones lying and just won't admit to it.
Like, even if you're lying, like, I'm fine with you as long
as you're like not acting holierthan thou about it.
Like, is it because I, I've had friends who've been liars, lying
liars who lie all the time. And it's, I was always OK with
(40:39):
it when they were like obvious about it.
But when they started getting, you know, sanctimonious about
it, like, and then judging me for something that I did, I was
like, what are you talking about?
You lie all the damn time. Well, that's the thing now it's
roping in you like. So this is what's different from
Potomac. Call Stacey a liar all day long.
Stacey is not lying on you, right?
However, Lisa Barlow will just vomit lies about you and the
(41:03):
heated arguments that's affecting you, right?
That's why it becomes your business.
Not because Stacey on Potomac Gazer is not married.
Yeah, didn't or did not hire some dude to be her boyfriend.
That is nothing to do with you. This is like.
Yeah, once it was there, it becomes personal because it's
like, like I've been overlookingall of your freaking lies and
(41:26):
now you're trying on calling me a liar.
No, thank you. Exactly.
I think that's where it gets to be the the problem, and I can
see Angie's point about it. Also, thank you TMZ for
confirming that Stacy's actuallydivorced.
In your face, Ashley Darby. Yes, and Giselle seriously face
Yeah, I mean and also if Stacy paid TMZ to run that story, good
(41:46):
on you. She still she rise.
Now just make that orbit deal. That orbit's gum.
Or Altoids, whatever. Yeah.
Yeah. Like it's just just like Andrew
soup. Let's just you know.
I would love it. Let your.
Haters be your motivators. I yeah, also the whole Karastas
conversation like. Oh my God, my best friend who
(42:08):
want me to call who? Is Lisa's best friend.
I was. I was afraid.
I was. I thought Meredith, Sean.
I thought Meredith would be likewhat?
What? I thought I was your best.
Friend, I'm right here. Don't you see my addendum for
all? Of them.
Oh, God, when she started talking, when she made that
crack to Terrence, Terrence's name.
Terrence. She's like, oh, I'm Meredith or,
(42:29):
or should I not have said that? You know, you are Brooks's
mother, aren't you? Oh, sad news on.
Oh yeah, about Next Gen. with Nick Hudson and.
And Ariana, Mariana, I mean, it seems amicable, but you know.
Still, probably it's because they have broken up before so
maybe they'll get back together.A lot of people were saying in
the comments it's Ken's fault. Oh, really?
(42:52):
I think just in journal that, you know, because he was always
saying like, not cut ties, but like, you can't, you know, save
your brother, take care of her. So that was a bone of
contention. But like, where do they live
now? New York is very expensive.
And he had a lot of money. Yeah, so she moved in with Riley
in Brooklyn. Maybe that'd be fun.
They're in a they. Need to pick up cameras on that.
(43:13):
I feel like because they're going to be a Bravo con, there's
a a big chance that it will be asecond season.
Right. No, I think so.
This hasn't been announced yet. Yeah, exactly.
Well, I think we've talked abouteverything.
If we've missed any Salt Lake shenanigans.
No, there's a lot to cover, likewithin this bottleneck of an
episode, but I feel like we. Yeah, no, it was good.
(43:34):
It was a great episode. This, this makes up for everyone
last week going. That's kind of a boring episode.
This, yes, this is not filler stuff was brought up.
Yeah, it was brought in.
Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and I am Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
We're florals. Well, you have florals.
I have stripes because it's cold.
I know you're, you're dressed for October.
I am dressed for Whitney's partywhere I thought it was going to
be cold, but they're all outsideand you know, they didn't seem
like they were cold. Apparently it was springtime in
(00:37):
Utah. That's what that's what Heather
taught us. And it the wind was picking up,
that might have been cold. Yes.
Yes, Brittany had upon her shawl.
Yes. Yeah, we, we had to turn our
heater on at the house today. We didn't have to, but got home
and it was 64° inside the house.I was like, yeah, we could use
6°, use some 70s. So are you glad I turned on the
(00:58):
heat? I didn't really notice that.
I mean, Oh well, in that case, screw you.
Because it's gonna like, you know, be up in like the 70s or
something like the rest of the OR like the 60s and it's gonna
be 70s. That's true.
It's getting cold overnight because.
Yeah, it's cold. Yeah, we need to change from the
non Porsche to the non Porsche sheet.
We may need to do that. Or she should just make, you
(01:18):
know, warm like fleece. Sheets.
But do you really need warm fleece sheets if you live in
Atlanta? It gets cold in Atlanta.
You were there for Christmas. That's true.
You. Maybe we.
Should see if Porsche makes fleece sheets.
I will. I will check on let's.
Look into that. Yes, I'm just happy to wear
sweaters again, although as I already told you, I'm a little
disappointed in my sweater collection.
(01:39):
I need to refresh my sweaters. Well, you might be getting some
more sweaters for cruise moves. Well, don't get me too many.
We've been spending too much money.
I know, I know, Too much money. No more money.
Can't spend that. Luckily, Bravo Con's coming up.
We won't be spending any money on that.
Dinners and. Hotel.
Oh my God, Yeah, we have a payout, Yeah.
Airport parking, right? All those things.
(02:02):
Right cabs or. Burrs, I'm going to leave my
phone in a cab. Not on my watch.
Oh. Yeah, probably a good thing we.
Won't do. Oh, so I love Heather saying
Vegas that's on a vacation, that's a road trip.
Well, it made me think from SaltLake, it can be a road trip.
Like it's only. I mean, it's still a long drive
to go from Salt Lake to Vegas, but it's like.
Yeah, like, I mean, the vacationshould be like, I I'm going to
(02:24):
take you to Paris, not going to take you to Vegas.
It's actually one that you're, you know, if you're going to be
called a gold digger for, it's not a trip to Vegas.
If he's got that awesome busman money and then he should be able
to like take her to like really nice places.
Just cancer. Also, just seeing him talking to
Justin, I was like, he's. Such a goober.
Such a goober. I don't, I don't understand what
(02:45):
she sees. And we're in love.
It's like, are you? Are you really?
When he's saying shit like that,No.
Anyway, this was an interesting episode and the fact that it
started and took place all the same place.
Bottleneck, which they usually don't do.
They usually do these episodes of except for premieres.
So I liked that. It was like, oh, we're all we're
at the same place the entire time.
(03:05):
Yeah, bring it because that's when they like really shine or
like, you know, just the hilarity and the takes,
takedowns and it's just all put together so well.
I really hope at that editors panel at Bravo Con, we need you
have to have someone from Salt Lake.
Oh, I'm sure. Like how do you do all this?
Yeah, I could have done without Whitney's little sing songy
(03:28):
poem. I mean not.
As clever as I think anyone the.Hoped wouldn't point into the
song, no. So I mean, maybe there's just
unless, unless there's like something I'm not understanding.
But yeah, it could have. I could have done without that.
Is the episode title Flowers forSpring groundbreaking?
I don't know. I have no idea what that's going
to be. We'll figure it out when we're
done, but lead us, Lead us. Yes, basically when he had a
(03:52):
party and she wanted to was going through old photo albums
and wanted to like get back to her old self and have fun again
and you know, get tattoos and drink and get on the pole.
And when when she described all those things, she was like, I
used to be like, I used to drinkand have fun and get on the pole
and get tattoos. Like, yeah, you were.
It's called in your 20s. Exactly.
(04:13):
That's what it was. And you grew up and you had kids
and so. The end, yeah.
And that's what happened. I felt really bad for her when
she was kind of talking about, you know, how and we're going to
jump around because that's what we do here.
We jump around, but we're like Cypress Hill.
I'd felt really bad when she wassaying that, like she, the damn
(04:34):
cat just distracted me and I can't remember what I was going
to say. I felt bad for when she was just
saying that like, she doesn't feel like she can, you know, be
herself and that like, she had like kind of give up a lot of
that's, you know, her, her funness.
Yeah, I didn't really. Because of Justin, cause like
she got his, got him fired and she didn't feel like his equal
and all that stuff. So like, I felt really bad.
(04:55):
That sucks to have to be like, you know, shove yourself into a
box. And yeah, it's like she felt
like she had to be, you know, I am a business owner, so I need
to look and dress a certain way.Because when we deviated from
that, you know, and Justin got fired because of, like, the
salaciousness of that episode. Whatever, whatever.
But yeah, the idea of I couldn'tbe me.
(05:18):
And you know, for the last two years and even after all that of
pretending to be somebody else, I still failed with this
business. And so where am I now?
And that's. The cats are at the loft at the
spiral stairs again, so they're fine, they're playing, they're
going to be good. Yeah, they're.
Going to be good. So, yeah, so just like it.
(05:42):
And you're right, it is sad. It's it's very sad.
And just to let you know, with with my birthday coming up and
us going wine tasting for my birthday, I'm planning on and on
becoming fun and and flirty again.
And I'm not I'm going to take myself out-of-the-box get.
Ready. So funny, like you could never
not be you. It's just.
Oh, really? Yeah, I don't think that a bad
(06:03):
way like you are always going tobe you.
What are scabs doing? Don't worry about her, she's a
cat. She's got a tail.
Helps her balance. Yeah, Yeah.
You can never not be you. And like I would ever want you
to not be you. If we like started a a wild rose
business, I'd be like you still be you.
You still be you. How do you know?
I wanted to start a lotion business, actually jewelry ready
(06:26):
for Alibaba. It's going to be great.
Or Brittany. Oh my God, Goosebumps.
How could he know this? Nobody know this?
No one knew about my daughter. And maybe strange.
Oh my gosh, he must be psychic. So let's talk about Terrence,
her wildly gay, overly eager psychic.
Or probably. From Key West, I want to meet
with him. I you know.
(06:48):
Which is so weird because you don't like we.
You've had tarot readers before.Like it?
That was that. That was that crappy tarot
reader. I had a person I met through
work that was a psych. It was a psychic.
I haven't seen him in many years.
It was back before my current job.
Right, Right. Right.
Yeah. And like he would.
(07:09):
It's funny, like things he wouldpredict didn't really pertain to
me, but they. Oh, he's fucking amazing.
What they did like, pertain to Ashley.
Like he called like certain things and I was like, oh wow,
that's really interesting. Could he predict me?
I asked about a relationship thing but like I can't remember
(07:30):
what he said. But no, that was like way before
you. No one had predicted you.
I love how Whitney was like, hey, if I flew you out, yes,
I'll do it. Like just immediately.
Do you come to Yes? Yes.
What do you mean go somewhere? You're going to pay me to do
something? Yes.
Venmo me the I'm going. To be on an episode of
(07:51):
Housewatch. Done.
Now I'm going to look him up. Terrence.
What was his? Wait?
I'm Terrence the psychic. We can Google him.
They kept she kept calling him something other than a psychic.
It wasn't psychic. Oh, and he's intuitive.
Intuitive, yes. Yes, yes.
But I I enjoyed his intuition. Mary did not.
He thought she might he might speak of.
Speak the devil might speak through him, yes.
(08:13):
Yes, because he's a soothsayer. That's so it says in the Bible,
yes. So Bible does a lot of things
very. Well, I mean, but also is I
think I think it would be, you know, a relevant point that he
doesn't not called him selfie soothsayer.
So I mean, although the devil can be called by many different
names I think. Yeah, it's like you haven't met
this person. You haven't like SAT.
(08:34):
I understand it was similar. To the voodoo stuff.
Counting, yeah. But voodoo has a much more
negative connotation, so I couldsee those good Christian ladies,
you know, not wanting to. I could see though that like if
he walked in and was like, hi, I'm a soothsayer, then yeah, red
flag, red flag, don't do it. But he's like, come and meet
with me if you want. Like, it wasn't like, yeah.
(08:56):
He's like, he's like, hi, I brought these really wrinkled
cards that I've dropped to the bathtub 100 times.
Here we go. But no, I of course Mary wasn't
going to sit down with them. Like it didn't take a it didn't
take a psychic to tell you that true Trump, but yes.
So yes. So she invites them.
(09:16):
All the women meet there. Talk about their outfits.
We're going to talk about the location where there's a murder
suicide, according to Mary, right in front of the dog, who
is never right. Never quite right.
It looked like you said like a Hobbit house.
Yeah, I mean, it had that weird like, boy, who's that guy who
does the garden scenes the. Happy collabs.
No, no, no, no, not the not the happy painter, no those stupid
(09:42):
things the that artist would always like have pastoral
pictures, like paintings that sell in the mall shops.
What's that? Guy, right?
What's his name? I don't know who you're talking
about. I don't.
It looked like Kincaid. Yeah, Kincaid.
It looked like a Kincaid galleryphoto.
Like gone wrong. Like mixed with like steampunk
Hobbit Shire. It was really team fuck.
(10:04):
It was kooky. I mean, I could see the whimsy
of it all for like being a garden setting and all that.
But well, like nobody knew that there were vineyards in Utah.
I didn't know either so. I mean, with the success that
wineries have across the country, I'm sure that they, you
know, if they have a chance to grow any rape, they will.
(10:24):
I remember once being in the Dallas Fort Worth airport for
work. I was travelling for work and
between one of the terminals, they're like, come taste some
Texas wine. And there's like this.
It wasn't even, it wasn't even arestaurant or it was like, it
was like a kiosk in the mall. It was like the size of one of
those. And they just had like bar
stools set up. And it's like me and like two
other people just drinking wine at the airport.
(10:46):
I was drinking. I went at the airport because I
was at the airport and I wanted to have a glass of wine, but I
wasn't. But to find out, like, oh, Texas
wine. Was it good?
As far as wine goes. I'm actually like Texas tea for
like, but I really hope it has. Some answer thing is like I'm
not I don't have a great pallet for wine.
Like even though we live in Northern California and you
(11:06):
know, we're exposed to wine, I don't necessarily like oh, this
is great. Like is it wine?
Yes. Does it taste fine?
Yes, I'm trying to taste something else to make it wine
rhyme. So why are we going wine tasting
on your? For your birthday, because we've
always talked with our friends about how we've never gone wine
tasting together for, you know, well, we have, but we live here.
We don't go. Often have we not gone wine
(11:27):
tasting with this exact group? Of we have, but we've only done
it that one time and we haven't done it since, especially since
we moved back up here from San Francisco.
So that's what I was saying. We've gone with them.
We've always talked we should gowine tasting again.
We never. Right, right.
OK, but yeah. And what are you complaining
about? You're not drinking any wines.
(11:47):
I'm just driving, you drunken fools.
Look, it's my birthday. I I.
Food better be good. It is birthday I.
Had to play the birthday card toget you to do this of course.
Of course, as you said, you suggested this in like June.
I'd be like whatever bro, you get an Uber and call me when
you're done. Stop.
(12:07):
No, that'd be good, Utah. Wines.
Utah wines, Yeah, Pairings. Pairings.
Mary doesn't wine these salmon. Any parasites that are going to
make a family in her belly? I like that Heather was like,
no, it's smoked salmon, it's already been cured it don't
worry about it. Right.
It's not like, but it's like theRalphs.
But it's not that sushi does that either.
(12:28):
Like, that's everyone's misconception, including yours,
about sushi. Is it just raw fish?
Well, yeah, it'd be like. Dangerous.
But I'm just not like a huge fish person.
It doesn't appeal to me. So yeah.
The texture of it is weird and it takes a little getting used
to so. Or not.
Look, I did vegan sushi with this same group of folks.
(12:50):
That's because we and I like by the.
Way, which by the way, we arguedabout we we got in a fight like
because we just started dating and you were like, oh, I don't
want to. Do that wasn't just started
dating, it was that was end of 2017.
Yeah, so we've been dating for like 9 months.
For a minute. For a minute.
And we didn't get into it like right before we saw that Jessica
(13:10):
Chastain movie where she was. We have a good movie.
Yeah. What was that one?
It looked. Like it was like in the dealings
and she was like an expert like.Yeah, that was a good movie.
Yeah. I keep wanting to say something,
something something Millie. No.
Molly. Yeah, Molly's game, Molly's
Game. We got there together.
Terrific. I love it.
(13:32):
Millie. Molly.
Yeah. So their looks though.
OK. Their looks I when she said
bring the florals right, I thought I was expecting like a
tamra floral party like they would all show wearing their
florals and no no one really showed up.
I mean they kind of like had a whisper of floral and a lot of
their. Stuff.
So let's break it down. Whitney with the very pink
(13:53):
dress, which is like a lot with the bow in the back, right?
She's done better. Heather had the Lacey brownish
thing which had flowers I guess.It looked like where those
flowers like they look like bells at the end.
Oh, like the little yeah, I know.
Yeah, that's what it looks like,something hanging off her.
Yeah. Actually what they're called.
Yeah, so they're hanging off her.
I was like, yeah, Mary was in the suit.
(14:15):
Very Mary. I don't understand her bangs.
That was just. That was just a weird look at
the rat that couldn't contain the bangs.
And then I feel like Mary is usually so put together
normally, I don't see why she was just like.
I feel like maybe that wind thatknocked all the flowers off the
table may have been acting up a few times or like that may have
made her hair. Even I'm surprised that Lisa
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Barlow actually like, stooped literally to get the flowers and
help when they put them back on,I was like, really well.
She did it last week and she didit again.
I don't like this Lisa Barlow pajama.
That's her aesthetic that like pajamas as.
It hasn't always been. I feel like she's trying to make
fetch happen with these pajamas.Like it just seems this year
(14:58):
she's really pushing hard on these pajamas.
She likes a flowy outfit. It's never really she's always
pants. It's never very binding, but it.
I don't know, It'd be one thing.I think she's.
I think it's a serious miss for me because it's not like when.
In the shoes. With that cut of everything
being so flowy, I kind of, if itwas like 70s, sort of like disco
(15:20):
flowy, I'd be into it. But it just looks like pajamas
and not even and not like classykaftan pajamas.
It just looks like I'm too lazy to put on something else.
And her justification is probably like, whatever, these
pajamas are, $5000. Exactly, if not more.
And oh, I'm sorry, just because they cost a lot of money doesn't
mean they look good. Even Louis Vuitton makes
(15:41):
mistakes. Yes, even Blenciaga makes many
mistakes. Trash bag.
So, Meredith, what the hell? What the hell was that?
What the hell was that? Like she was like, hold my beer
Broadway and I'm gonna like be denim flower applique.
When she walked in, I don't think I recognized that the
boots. We're a part of the.
(16:02):
Whole thing and then they did that on purpose they must have
because they let Mary do her whole like she looks like germs,
which kind of I I see what she's.
Talking about kind of like The Last of Us.
Oh yeah, a little. Poroseps on the other place,
yeah. And then when she walks in for
her psychic reading, you're like, oh God, there's boots that
match it like that. It's so much look, it was she
(16:24):
really was trying to outdo Bronwyn, which I think, you
know, once she took off her coatwas a very pretty like butterfly
flower situation. Yeah, her hair look good, like a
minimal. Like it's so many like she does.
I think what she does over the top of the outfit, she'll do
like a minimal makeup. And I think it you know, because
otherwise it could be look a little bit drag queenie, right,
(16:44):
right. So.
I do like that when Braun, when I mean that, I think that's the
difference for like when you're going bold is like just go too
much and it's OK. Like even Meredith's outfit, if
it like if there would have beensomething else to bring it over
the top and it wasn't just like this like monochromatic kind of
blue flower thing, I would have been happier with it.
(17:06):
But Bronwyn takes it over the top and I'm like, OK, yes, I'm.
That's her personality and it fits like Meredith.
It's so many cuz like I just said, Meredith's confessional
with that silver suit looks amazing, right?
Hands down the best confessionalso far of the season.
Like her makeup's great, just like the nice touch of boob, you
know, cleavage and it's just so put together and the hair, it's
(17:29):
just like, that's probably her best confessional look ever and
the best all together of the season for me.
I can't wait to edit a clip together that has to change the
captions on Touch of Boob. Because, you know, some people
do a touch of boob and it's like, I don't maybe a little
more. Let's button some buttons.
Yeah, yeah. And then Brittany, yeah, she was
(17:51):
there. Exactly.
Yeah, It was a pretty color. Yeah.
And. And she was there.
Nothing special. She was.
And what, Angie? I did not like Angie's.
Yeah, I. Like, why are you wearing
leopard? Yeah, was it leopard?
Yeah. Or.
Cheetah or cheetah? It was it was some sort of
animal. Floral situation.
And I should have known as soon as she like brought that thing
(18:11):
and I was like what is she goingto do?
It's like the scroll. Oh yeah, the.
Prop Queen Yeah, like I don't need all that.
We'll get to it later, but I don't need it.
I think the first piece of dramathat really, really reared its
head at the party was why Angie listed her house with someone
other than Britain. I think the second piece of
drama is Brittany is a real estate agent.
(18:33):
Yeah, Is that I? Forgot about I.
Forgot. Did we ever really know?
I didn't think they were talkingabout work, right?
It's always about Jared and her announcement, so I didn't know
that she. Was a real estate yes and I mean
I guess. You know what we did know?
Because we this is back when that Salt Lake real estate show
was airing and we're like, oh, Brittany could go work for that.
(18:55):
Oh yeah, yeah. Awesome.
And then that show just disappeared off the radar.
So that's probably. That show was that last year or
the year? Before that was either earlier
it was when Salic was airing, soI think it was.
There's had been last year. Maybe they're gonna bring it
back, who knows? Maybe, I don't know, it needs a
bit more. Yeah.
It did. They need a little bit more.
Oh right, because they had the weird guy with the face.
(19:16):
Who with the strippers? Yeah, and oh God, he he's made,
he went to a stripper. Oh my God.
Forgot about the fuck got that guy.
That was it was they were tryingto make a high 6 drama but it
was pretty low. See, very low stinks.
But yeah, I mean, to get, I don't like giving Lisa Barlow
credit, but Angie does go kind of low because like, she was
(19:36):
going a little bit like mean Brittany just about the real
estate agent, like whatever you live in Provo, I live in.
And then they descended into this conversation.
Which part of Salt Lake City is the most prestigious?
That's classic housewives. Like, no, my neighborhood, no,
my neighbourhood's the best neighborhood.
I'm like, like, I don't know. You're all in Salt Lake City,
UT, so I don't know if. I mean, it's not Beverly Hills.
(20:01):
Yeah. But yes, I want to now research
the best parts of WE. Utah, we should still take a
trip to Utah. I think, again, for anyone who
might try to come for me about Utah, and you know, Utah has
Utah's nice. I think it's beautiful, it's
lovely. I'm just saying if you're going
to argue over what's most prestigious, I don't think you
know if you have a whole list ofcities going on that Salt Lake
(20:23):
makes the top. Where is that socialite lady?
She could have been like, well, it's wherever I live.
Right, my $5,000,000 mansion or whatever it was.
And to Angie's point, you don't sell a $4 million house
overnight like you. You don't.
I mean, it's interesting that it's been on the market for 200
days. I mean, a price adjustment
typically isn't the best thing. And Brittany had a point that
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you priced it correctly the first time.
So people don't see your price adjustment because we look at
real estate all the time and we're like, oh, they had to drop
the price because it was probably priced too high.
But I, you know, so Brittany knows a bit of what she's
talking about, so and she didn'thave to come so hard at right.
That was a little like, oh, and also it's like, I don't know.
At this point, I'm really starting to root for Brittany as
(21:08):
the underdog. And just like, oh, stop picking
on her. You keep kicking her when she's
down. Stop.
It right talk about her hair andall this.
Like, I mean, it's fun that it'sbecome kind of an ongoing joke.
But like she's like the the Meg of Family Guy.
They're just like, oh, we're gonna pick on Brittany.
But and also to Angie's defense,it's a very particular type of
(21:28):
home. I don't know how many people
are. Very specific, yeah.
Don't know how many people are really looking for a completely
transparent. Like, do they?
Was that like their dream home that they built?
For them, no, I have no idea. Yeah.
I mean, the problem is there's no railing at the basement.
They probably can't get anyone to to buy it.
People keep slipping down the stairs.
I mean you have people all know about Monica's tumblings, so I
(21:52):
would hope she would have put itin the.
Rail, I mean, they have to put it into disclosures.
If I was, if I was the rage, I'dbe like first thing put in the
railing and we're going to get like some good photos of that
railing so no one could say you don't have one.
I wonder, and they must not for $4 million, they're not having
open houses or else every fan inthe Valor would be there
looking. At it invite only.
I mean, not that we haven't goneand looked at $3,000,000 houses
(22:15):
in town, but that's because theywere part of that agrihood or
whatever it was. They were cloak, yeah.
Yeah, they were like $2.8 million.
I'm glad that I just go in now and don't pretend that I can
afford. Those, I mean it's like they
have to expect looky loos and then maybe that looky loo could
actually be a real buy, right? You can't just say it's not
(22:38):
exclusive enough, right? You know, to, to just say like,
you have to like, you know, contact the agent to see it
because you're not going to get a sale that way.
And also, now that I don't know,now that Sotheby's seems to be a
real estate agency for like justany old house, I mean, it's kind
of lost. That used to mean something.
I know when you used to think, oh, auctions and lots of money,
and now you're just like, oh, might as well be Century 21.
(23:01):
So. I'm not.
I don't even know if Century 21's still even a real estate.
It's looking we still see those sides.
I don't know, I don't even pay attention anymore.
Yeah, I do. So jinx Yomiko.
So then a glass of. Water.
The drama then continues, I think with Meredith saying she
(23:22):
needed to confront for a. Second, basically went like
this. Lisa, I've heard that you said
things about my family. No, I didn't.
OK, Lisa, I'm good. Yeah, and then with Lisa doing
the whole I don't, I didn't say anything, but I suspect Satan
knows what I something. Because, well, Angie was
grinning like the Cheshire cat, right?
(23:43):
Yeah, right. But yeah, to call her Satan,
unless you're a Stacy, Stop calling people, I said.
Yeah, that, that's a bit much bit much.
And then that's what bugs me is that Angie?
Well, and then before that, likeHeather interesting enough
saying like, I don't know why Mirror's just like sweeping this
other rock. Oh, right, it could be true.
(24:04):
Why didn't you say that in scene'cause she's afraid of Lisa?
Carla, I mean, it seems like from the scenes from next week
that maybe Heather does start kind of Lisa about like, you
know, you're I mean, it's alwaysit's going to be couch like in
sarcasm. Like, you know, you're not the
best friend, like you're not you're not an easy friend to
have. Yeah, you know, so I'm sure
that's probably what we're gonnasee, but.
(24:25):
I'll be like the first start of this possible downfall of their
friendship, but yeah, you're saying.
But why? Why Angie didn't elaborate and
take a moment to say no, But yousaid these things and it means
and that's. Why I say exactly what she said,
right? Like she had receipts about
like, oh, this is the the mean text you sent me.
(24:46):
But what did she say exactly to you about digging up dirt about
Meredith? Stick to that, right?
Because then you might say something that might trigger
marriage to be like, Oh, I did say that to Lisa or that is
true, right? You know, like, oh, maybe
someone did shoplift, you know? So that's why the only thing I
can think of is either they tookall that out like they didn't
(25:09):
because it was ultimately irrelevant towards the final,
you know, blow up of this episode.
So either that all happened and they talked about it, but it
really went nowhere. So they just decided not to show
it because it just got boring because Meredith on her Xanax
and Lisa were just like, no, I didn't say that I didn't.
OK. All right.
Whatever, say no, because the real fight here, it's not about
Meredith. That's just the entryway of
(25:32):
Angie. Just trying to like, you know,
poke it, Lisa. It's really about their fights.
Right, which I don't like that the way it was presented and if
this is how it went down, I don't like this about it is that
Angie was just like using that. It makes it seem like Angie is
using Meredith just to come in, upset the apple cart and cause
(25:53):
some sort of kerfuffle so she can go, oh, yeah, and then
you're mean to me too. Like it was just all this so she
could miss or redirect to her inthis conversation and text about
the product and. All that, As we said last week,
there was no way that Meredith was going to flip on Lisa, even
if she probably does believe there's a kernel of truth to
that, right? She and Lisa are on the same
(26:13):
side. She probably isn't like many of
the other women in the group. I'm saying this, we're both
Meredith and Lisa. So it's like they are going to
stick together and you know, they're not going to be best
friends like they were like Season 1, but they're not going
to have a rift so that they can be used against each other
because I'm sure they do know a lot of horrible shit about one
(26:34):
another. So it's a friendship of
convenience in a lot of ways, I'm sure.
Right. Yeah.
I enjoy through all of this thatBronwyn's able to kind of be
sitting in the background and like, yeah.
And just kind of kind of do whatHeather does as well.
Just like. Well, she's right.
Yep, that's true. They're so similar, Sheena,
(26:54):
they're so similar. I like the other ones that
including along with Mary are saying like this is stupid.
Just say you're sorry and stop hurting each other or trying to
hurt one another and we can all move on, you know?
But they were just like as Whitney said, they both wanted
the last word. They're just shouting like
random shit like the Superman and you know you're I want.
(27:17):
To know what the Superman means.At we'll get to a three, I'm
sure. And then the you know, the the
12, the 12 was not. No the 12 laces or threads.
Threads on both sides and you had a facelift like look like
you went through a wind tunnel. So I, I'm kind of with Angie on
this though, and that's just whoI am.
(27:39):
Like, I don't, I, I can see where the frustration is.
I'm not going to let Lisa off the hook.
And that's she started screamingat everyone like you've been
married to, you've all gone backto her.
You've all like, let her get away with this.
Like, why do we continue to do that?
And, and that's true because Lisa's doing the thing that she
always does, which is she has noactual nothing to actually say.
(28:03):
So she just starts screaming really loud.
About things that may or may notbe true.
Right. That isn't what we're talking
about at all. And just like Angie needs to be
reaching out to a soup company now and make get a deal with
some with Campbell's Soup. Actually, I don't eat soup.
I don't know anybody who has soup.
I don't know of a soup man. I don't know why she's doing
(28:25):
this. I get what she was saying of,
you know, Lisa says these horrible things.
It throws them out and I look like shit, you know, she's
questioning my business, questioning my integrity.
I'm a pillar of the community. I don't, I don't appreciate
that. And I'm not going to let it go
for the sake of the show or thisfriend group, whatever.
(28:45):
And the others are just like, let's just let it go and
whatever. But I, I get what she's saying,
but at the same time, you have to move on.
But also, we know Lisa's capableof an apology.
Why can't she just give one to Angie?
Ove said. It really horrible things.
I don't think Angie wants apology.
I don't want Angie to get an apology.
I want Lisa to just admit that she's done horrible things.
(29:08):
I don't need an apology from her.
The fact that they were kind of,you know, the fact that Lisa
walks out without even, you know, saying anything, it's just
that was so ridiculous. But it's so, I mean the whole
like you talked about like kid, it's like it was not really.
It wasn't like she was saying your kid is the reason why your
product didn't sell. She's saying you're the reason
(29:29):
why your kids product didn't sell.
Because. You weren't doing the thing that
you're supposed to do professionally, which is market
it. And I think what she said last
year about Henry was way worse about how he just stays up
playing video games, making it seem that Lisa isn't monitoring
her child and. Neglecting him.
Exactly. So talking about my kids product
that you probably haven't thought about in ages, like, I
(29:53):
mean, it's not. They're worse things you could
say. Yeah.
I mean, I do see what Lisa's saying about Angie having thin
skin because it did seem that Angie, and you reminded me of
this, is latching on to this reputation that she's bad in
business or she's somehow her businesses are failing because
she was like, all my credit cards are my name.
And it seemed very important to Angie to like, throw all her
credit cards and like. She was like stop throwing your
(30:15):
money on the ground throwing cards.
It's like freaking Britney like.And then it's funny, Heather,
like I've never actually held a black card, right.
I don't. I think I've I think I have once
I forget whose but. I've.
I think I've transacted. Something titanium card, yeah.
I think for work one time I ran black card.
(30:38):
But anyway, yeah, I just, I'm tired of Lisa yelling over
people. I, I I'm all for Angie
continuing to do it because I think that Lisa doesn't think
she's doing or has done anythingwrong, whereas I think Angie
knows full well what she's doing.
And maybe Lisa does too. But the fact is that she won't
(30:58):
admit to it. And all she does is all this.
What about ISM of like, what about?
It's like, OK, we're not talkingabout that.
We're talking about how you are.I think the good point of you
can't control Lisa, you can onlycontrol your reaction.
So they both have thin skin. They both need to, you know,
just let this go and roll off their backs because it's just
(31:21):
they're not going to. I if I was Angie, I would just
be like, whatever, you're going to say shit about me.
I'm not letting it get to me. I'm ignoring you.
You know, there are seven other ladies I can hang out with, six
other ladies I can hang out with.
Like I'm I did too math. I like Bronwyn and they're like,
I'm even starting to like Brittany.
No, Angie said. No, Angie said.
(31:42):
The problem was like, I'm accepting a hug from Britney.
Which brings us to the terrible readings.
Oh yes. So what was it, Brittany?
He was spot on about Brittany. Who knows where he got that
information? That was shady of the editors.
Yes. Heather is that she's kind of
(32:03):
like new beginnings, like her old.
Yeah, and that her love life hasn't been going well.
It's kind of. She never shows it, right?
Yeah, sometimes Bronwyn was probably like, you know, the
saddest of like. Yeah, you should.
Make amends with your mother because you might not have it
for very long. And look out for that bread.
What? Sorry.
Look out for that blood work. Yeah.
(32:24):
And that's a. That's a.
Really. That was very.
Heavy thing to say. Yeah.
You know, part of me is already thinking, you know, he's done
research and watched the show, so maybe he knows.
Well, he wouldn't have known about that stuff is new because
this is her first season showingher mother.
Did she say any of that to Whitney or anything?
And Whitney pass it on to. Him.
I don't think so. I think, I don't think this is a
(32:45):
Gin Aiden situation. No, no, no, with endorsements
and and whatnot. What was?
Lisa's, yeah, which she wouldn'tshare with anybody because she
can't be vulnerable, right? The whole storyline of it all,
of John Barlow and they're growing apart, even though
they're best friends and, you know, and marriage is hard.
(33:06):
I beg to differ, but. Here, hold my beard now, yeah.
That was interesting. Yeah, I mean same kind of thing
was kind of Whitney's situation as well, that communication
wasn't working well and that she.
Was upside down. Yeah, she wasn't really talking
to Justin about the feelings that she's having about
surrounding her business inadequacies.
(33:28):
And that she needs to like go back or not go back but find
herself again in a sense, right,right.
And you know, it's almost like you know, be yourself and or
love what you do or do what you love and the rest will fall in.
Yeah, do what you love and then you're never, never working.
I don't. I remember.
There's a lot of cliches. We Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What was Meredith's? Did we talk?
(33:50):
About that, someone may be dealing with mental health
issues. And she seemed to be like, uh
huh. Yeah.
OK. And then?
And then it was. Oh, Angie, that the.
The horse was gonna get hurt, and then it did.
That was crazy, Yeah. Like she threw the horse, it's
leg broke and that was the injured.
(34:11):
I mean, I, I hope that's the injured horse.
I would feel so really awful as an intuitive to be like,
especially, especially if like part of your thing is just kind
of leading, you know, following threads to the end and be like,
oh, you have a daughter. Oh, that's right.
Oh, and she rides horses. Oh, okay.
It would be so hard for me to say.
(34:32):
And then your daughter might getin a horse riding accident and
then he, he, he was very clear to say your daughter will be
fine, it's just the horse won't be.
OK, well then we'll just shoot him because that's what happens.
I'm. Just like I just got to be so
like, I couldn't say that to another person.
I don't think I could like, especially in some sort of, I
(34:52):
don't know. I know a lot of people don't.
I know a lot of people take these things seriously.
As we found out, Tamara on Orange County consults A
psychic. Didn't we just hear that on two
teams? She was mentioning something
about that. I don't think.
So we'll we did. We'll talk about that later.
Yeah. But anyway, like, I know people
take this seriously, so it's notall fun and games, but like in
this context for the show, like it seemed to be like, oh, it's a
(35:15):
light hearted, we're gonna have a fun party and I want you to
come out and tell people. But maybe that's holy.
It was basically, let's go into this room and cry.
Let's go through that. Everyone else has to walk
through if they need to. Leave that was a horrible setup
and just the Whitney 1 though. Just beware of, you know,
certain friends that you know and.
Your life? Yeah.
(35:36):
Can we? My favorite person of the entire
episode, The wine Lady came out.I have another wine if you want.
As they're like ripping each other's faces off.
It was evident to me that Angie at least had had some wine as
she was. I mean, I felt like when she
just could not be consoled even after she was removed from the
(35:58):
table, that was now that she kept going on and on and on
about it. And that's something that like,
I don't know, I feel like she was very raw because her
inhibitions were down from the alcohol and.
And then the, the crying and like, I won't let her do this to
me anymore. And you know, neither one,
neither one of them could be consoled like the, the the level
of emotion and energy was like out of 30 and they were just
(36:21):
like being pulled away. And they're like going back to
each other, like finish the fight and then.
No. And I think for Angie to have
reacted that way to Mary when Mary kind of did that, I think
that the only thing I can think is alcohol would have had her
been like, no, this is for real.Like this is the most important
feeling I've ever felt in my life.
(36:42):
That's the sort of, you know. I have to get this off my chest
that be like suppressed by Lisa Barlow and I'm not going to
like, you know, right, play, go along and get along, get along.
To me, that just sounds very much like drunk verbiage right
there. Just like chaotic energy and I
as much as it looks chaotic, I'msure being in it must have been
10 times that. And I understand why Mary was
(37:04):
like, I don't like this probablyreminds her of her mother.
And it's like, I gotta get out of here.
And, you know, being genuinely hurt that Angie was like coming
at her that way of like, you know, I've had your back, you've
had mine. We're cool.
And you're just like, lop me in with these other chicks, you
know, and this whole like, you want me to kiss Lisa's ass.
(37:25):
It's like, when did we ever say that no one wants you to like
for Heather to be like, we don'twant you to kiss Lisa's ass.
Let me rub your back. But I mean, that must be what it
feels like to be in the midst ofall that when everyone knows
that Lisa's behaves a certain way and puts up with it.
I mean, it was something that I,I didn't think of.
(37:45):
And I, I was trying to think about that in a lot of ways,
what Mary said about. But this is who she's always
been Like when you know. Who she is?
When you were friends with her, you were fine with this.
Right. Or the fact that like you, and
it's not as if Lisa said dig up dirt on Meredith and.
And the answer's like, I'm aghast.
(38:06):
I couldn't do that to to Meredith.
That's unethical. She probably was like, what
should I do? Yeah, exactly.
Like what? Like if I was married, I would
say, what did you do? And she suggested that.
Right, Right. Right.
Because hello. Now that you're in a fight with
her now it's become a moral dilemma.
And I need to confess this to Meredith again.
(38:28):
If I was married, too, I'd be like, this has nothing to do
with me. Are you trying to like, you
know, be on my side or whatever?It was so funny when Meredith
was like, here's a here's sort of like, wipe her face.
Yeah. So thank you, Meredith.
I, I do feel like Angie made it very clear though, that like,
I'm bringing this up because I'm, you know, want to cause
shit. Like I know that Meredith is
(38:50):
under no delusions about that. So I mean, I get what you're
saying though, but. It's not about her.
I forgot she was there at the end of the episode.
Well, it seemed. Everyone else walked away.
I thought maybe they just didn'tshow.
Her. Well, I thought that she chased
after Mary, but she probably couldn't in those boots.
She's like, let her go, I'll call you.
(39:13):
I really, I really hope, Meredith, I'm sorry, I really
hope Mary and Angie can get overwhatever this.
I feel they'll maybe like haven't argument but get to a
good place by the end of next episode.
I hope so, I feel. Like they go on the boat.
I feel like this is kind of the first time in the entire series
that I've seen Mary kind of justifiably upset, in my
(39:34):
opinion, where she was like, like, girl, I was trying to help
you and this is what I get for it.
No, I you're not going to talk to me like that.
And like she got emotional. I think you can see that she.
Definitely was emotional, yes. Previously when Mary, when
Mary's done things and like you said, no, you know, like when
she take Meredith out of the house, right?
It just seemed performative, whereas this seemed very
(39:55):
genuine. Also too, she's going through
like the Robert Junior stuff andso she's probably like when she
was like this is nothing. She's like this is nothing in
comparison to real shit that's happening to us, right?
This little like who stole someone's credit card or
whatever is BS. And you're grown women, you
should just like figure this outand move the F on.
I keep thinking for. Dumb fights.
(40:16):
Yeah but I keep thinking for me and I get hung up on it so much
when I know someones lying and just won't admit to it.
Like, even if you're lying, like, I'm fine with you as long
as you're like not acting holierthan thou about it.
Like, is it because I, I've had friends who've been liars, lying
liars who lie all the time. And it's, I was always OK with
(40:39):
it when they were like obvious about it.
But when they started getting, you know, sanctimonious about
it, like, and then judging me for something that I did, I was
like, what are you talking about?
You lie all the damn time. Well, that's the thing now it's
roping in you like. So this is what's different from
Potomac. Call Stacey a liar all day long.
Stacey is not lying on you, right?
However, Lisa Barlow will just vomit lies about you and the
(41:03):
heated arguments that's affecting you, right?
That's why it becomes your business.
Not because Stacey on Potomac Gazer is not married.
Yeah, didn't or did not hire some dude to be her boyfriend.
That is nothing to do with you. This is like.
Yeah, once it was there, it becomes personal because it's
like, like I've been overlookingall of your freaking lies and
(41:26):
now you're trying on calling me a liar.
No, thank you. Exactly.
I think that's where it gets to be the the problem, and I can
see Angie's point about it. Also, thank you TMZ for
confirming that Stacy's actuallydivorced.
In your face, Ashley Darby. Yes, and Giselle seriously face
Yeah, I mean and also if Stacy paid TMZ to run that story, good
(41:46):
on you. She still she rise.
Now just make that orbit deal. That orbit's gum.
Or Altoids, whatever. Yeah.
Yeah. Like it's just just like Andrew
soup. Let's just you know.
I would love it. Let your.
Haters be your motivators. I yeah, also the whole Karastas
conversation like. Oh my God, my best friend who
(42:08):
want me to call who? Is Lisa's best friend.
I was. I was afraid.
I was. I thought Meredith, Sean.
I thought Meredith would be likewhat?
What? I thought I was your best.
Friend, I'm right here. Don't you see my addendum for
all? Of them.
Oh, God, when she started talking, when she made that
crack to Terrence, Terrence's name.
Terrence. She's like, oh, I'm Meredith or,
(42:29):
or should I not have said that? You know, you are Brooks's
mother, aren't you? Oh, sad news on.
Oh yeah, about Next Gen. with Nick Hudson and.
And Ariana, Mariana, I mean, it seems amicable, but you know.
Still, probably it's because they have broken up before so
maybe they'll get back together.A lot of people were saying in
the comments it's Ken's fault. Oh, really?
(42:52):
I think just in journal that, you know, because he was always
saying like, not cut ties, but like, you can't, you know, save
your brother, take care of her. So that was a bone of
contention. But like, where do they live
now? New York is very expensive.
And he had a lot of money. Yeah, so she moved in with Riley
in Brooklyn. Maybe that'd be fun.
They're in a they. Need to pick up cameras on that.
(43:13):
I feel like because they're going to be a Bravo con, there's
a a big chance that it will be asecond season.
Right. No, I think so.
This hasn't been announced yet. Yeah, exactly.
Well, I think we've talked abouteverything.
If we've missed any Salt Lake shenanigans.
No, there's a lot to cover, likewithin this bottleneck of an
episode, but I feel like we. Yeah, no, it was good.
(43:34):
It was a great episode. This, this makes up for everyone
last week going. That's kind of a boring episode.
This, yes, this is not filler stuff was brought up.
Yeah, it was brought in.
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