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Today’s discussion breaks down the often confusing relationship between motivation, discipline, and consistency. We dive into why motivation can feel fleeting, the importance of establishing discipline, and the power of setting clear goals to create lasting habits.

• Morning greetings and a light introduction 
• Exploring the significance of motivation, discipline, and consistency 
• Personal stories reflecting the balance between motivation and hard work 
• Understanding how motivation doesn't always last, emphasizing discipline's role 
• Discussing practical methods to tackle distractions and challenges in daily routines 
• Final thoughts on embracing discipline and consistency in our lives 


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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Good morning, good morning.
This is Brad.
I'm with my wife, tiffany.
Good morning, tiffany.
Good morning.
How are you this morning?
I'm really good, good, it's agreat day, just excited about
our topics.
Today We've got some goodinformation I feel like we're
going to talk about this morning.
We're going to talk aboutmotivation, discipline and
consistency, and, man, I cantell you that is one of my

(00:42):
favorite topics.
It's one that, at almost 53,I've had to work on, and I think
at this age, I'm finallybecoming more disciplined and
more consistent in lots of areasof my life, but not every area.
So I think there's always roomfor improvement.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's not necessarily a fun topic.
No, now, sometimes differentthings we'll probably talk about
.
The result is fun of havingmotivation for something in
particular, something specified.
But motivation and discipline,discipline is not a fun word at
all.

(01:20):
No, no, no, I don't think offun when I think of discipline.
No, no, no I don't think of funwhen I think of discipline.
I think I'm not going to get toeat something or I'm going to
have to exercise restraint in mylife somewhere where I don't
want restraint.
So it's nothing fun necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, it's not.
It's not.
And Nick Barr and I've showedyou who Nick Barr is you know,
he's that muscular hybridathlete where he's cut up and
his muscles have muscles, buthe's a fast runner, he's a
strong guy and I screenshotted apicture of him the other day.
That said basically disciplinesucks until you see the results.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, well, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
And it is, and that's true.
So, anyway, we're going to talkthis morning about motivation,
discipline and consistency, butlet's talk about Colorado for a
minute.
We went to Colorado back the1st of February to Vail, First
time we'd been to.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Vail.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
And Vail is beautiful .
If you've never been.
It's an incredible lookingplace, plenty of things to see
and I guess, to be honest withyou, you know the America, the
Beautiful song.
I really never understood whatPurple Mountain Majesty was, and
I was.
You know, you sing that PurpleMountain Majesty.
And we were headed down theinterstate, I think I-70 there,

(02:37):
headed toward Vail, and I saidwhoa, check this out.
And we looked and there waspurple behind the mountains
there and it was incredible.
The views were.
But what was your favoritething about Vail?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
My favorite thing about Vail.
Well, I wanted to see a moose.
I did not get to see a moose,so that ended up not being my
favorite thing, since it didn'thappen.
Besides not seeing a moose, whatmy other favorite thing is when
you were terrifying me on thesnowmobile and I got off and was
able to watch you.

(03:10):
That was great too.
Yeah, but no, I'm.
Yeah, it's just like, um, thethings in the water the sea do's
.
Yes, like I don't enjoy beingyour passenger.
Never have I don't enjoy beingyour passenger in a vehicle, so
I don't enjoy you.
Yeah, so I, I it was just, Ithink just it was.

(03:32):
It was so pretty and just beingsomewhere different in you the
the train ride.
We, we booked the train rideand that was great because we
did an open, like the window,open view car where the ceiling
was glass and we could seeeverything that you know, we
were going through the gorge andwe could see all of that and

(03:54):
then being able to walk out tothe back in an open air car and
see all of that and experiencesome of that so close, we did
actually see some wildlife ofthat and experience some of that
so close, we did actually seesome wildlife.
There were some mountain goatsor whatever those things are
that are a little different thanour mississippi goats that were
on the mountains there as wewere going through.
But that was all really reallyneat.
So it was just it's.

(04:14):
It's neat to go somewhere.
We need to get one of thosemaps and put it in somewhere,
like in one of our closets, andput some push pins on it and see
where we've got left to go.
That's right.
Yeah, that would be good, soI'll task you with that, because
I'm probably not Well being theone that is the best at
geography.
I really should be the one thatdoes that.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, let's just go ahead before we dive into our
topic.
Whoever gave her the GeographyAward in high school?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I did get it and it's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Please come find me, because this is the same.
He was my favorite teacher whocalled me coming home from
oxford one day and said I don'tknow how to get home and I'm
like you, just take the, thenatchez trace there and get off
on mccullough and hit lakeshirein your home.
I feel like that's made up andshe's like I don't know how to

(05:04):
do that and I'm my God.
It's just the big brown signthat says Natchez Trace, but
then it would be like her tohead to Jackson instead of the
Nashville side.
That is tricky.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
When you come out.
Anybody that lives in this areawill agree that when you come
out, sometimes on the trace,it's real tricky.
It's tricky trying to figureout exactly where you are in
proximity, because the sign onlysays Jackson or Nashville,
that's your two choices.
It doesn't say McCullough's upthat way or Cliff Goodkin's down
that way, and this is where youare in proximity to that.
So I think they make thatintentionally confusing.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
But anyway, I digress .
Listen, north and south isreally confusing.
I get it North and south.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Who uses a compass in 2025?
I do Well, okay, whatever.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
So anyway, yeah, we had a great time.
It was fun.
I don't enjoy her ridingSea-Doos or, in this case,
riding a snowmobile.
She's like Granny.
I mean she's like you're goingtoo fast.
You're going too fast, you'regoing too fast, and I mean
pretty much rabbits are passingus on the trail there and I'm

(06:11):
thinking, well, I can't go muchslower, we'll just walk this
thing.
And so the guide said you know,if you want to get off and you
can each drive it and go realfast.
That's cool and that was thebest time.
Like I'm just going as fast asI can go.
Yeah, I'm glad you enjoyed itand the guy said you know it's
not a race with the peoplearound you and of course it is a
race because I'm trying tocatch the guy in front of me and

(06:31):
I did, but anyway.
So I had a great time andColorado was beautiful.
I got to stop by the Universityof Colorado and see the Buffalo
Stadium I'm a huge Dion fan,scobuffs so it was a good time
and I'm glad to be home and backin the grind.
So today, motivation,discipline and consistency Now

(06:55):
let's talk about that, becausethose are three separate ideas.
And let's talk about motivation.
I read this book.
It at the end of last year.
It was called Motivation is aMyth.
And you know, as far as thebook itself, I've read a ton of
books and I don't really givelike high marks to books unless

(07:19):
they really impact my life.
You know, and that was one ofthose books that it was just
mediocre, just mediocre.
But the idea behind it is isthat motivation being a myth,
that he painted the picture thatmotivation is not something
that you can live off of, thatit is a starter pack, if you
will, that it's kind of thekindling for the fire or it's

(07:39):
the spark that gives yousomething that you can move on.
And I think of it this way andyou hate this movie.
I guess you hate it.
I don't know if you hate it ornot, but my boy, james Bowens,
I'm going to give you a shoutout here.
James and I are 80s guys.
We grew up in the 80s and whenwe connected over this, one

(07:59):
movie like it has revolutionizedour life.
We talk about it all the time.
Which movie I'm talking about?
Rad.
Yeah, if you've never seen rad,you probably ain't really
missing much, because you, you,I showed it to my kids and my
kids was like dad, this is lame.
Oh my god, this is terrible,but it's about a, it's in the
80s and if you remember, uh, ifyou've seen the movie, we love

(08:23):
it.
So the BMX guys come in andthey're putting on this big race
called Hell Track and there's alocal boy that you can qualify,
and so this local boy, cruzJones man, he's the paper
delivery boy and he races thecops every day and races time.
Anyway, he makes it into HellTrack and it's really really

(08:45):
good.
And so, like he does theseflips and all this crazy stuff
and he gets his own team, radRacing.
And when I watched that moviein the 80s.
Man, I'm like you know, I'm 14years old and I'm thinking, man,
this is awesome, I'm going togo out here and I'm motivated to
be a good BMX guy.
I'm motivated to be a goodfreestyle guy.
I had a red line bike with somewhite spokes.
It was beautiful.
My mom didn't throw it away.

(09:05):
I asked him about a year ago,said hey, where's my bike?
They said we threw that thingaway a long time ago.
We asked you if you wanted itand I'm thinking, oh my God,
this time you know like they'reworth $1,100.
Now, that's how much they'reworth, and and and so anyway, I
tried to surf one day on mybicycle.
If you don't know what that is,that's going down the road and

(09:25):
putting one foot under the seatand one foot on the handlebars
and I hit a bump.
I didn't want to hit a bump.
I went over the handlebars yeah, of course you did and I got
road rash all over my face andall over my hands and my arms
and after that the motivationkind of died, so I wasn't
disciplined enough.
After that the motivation kindof died, so I wasn't disciplined
enough.
And here I am at 53.

(09:46):
I'm not a BMX guy, right?
So motivation being a myth,it's not necessarily a true
statement.
But motivation, let's talkabout motivation for you.
What motivates you?
I mean just in general.
Is there anything like, say,you're watching a cooking show
or you're watching this.
What motivates you?
What inspires you Success?

(10:09):
Okay, what does that look like?
I mean anybody specific thatyou think of.
It can be somebody, even local,that you admire or just you
know overall.
Is there anybody that justcomes to mind?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Off the cuff.
That would take me longer thanI need to stop and pause to
think about and that's fine.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
So success motivates you.
What motivates you aboutsuccess?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think that you get motivated and then, just like
you said, there are certainthings that you look at as
successes, that you know, if youwill put the consistency and
the discipline behind it, youcan achieve it.
I try to be a person thatthinks of something and thinks I

(10:55):
can probably do that Now.
Then you have the decisions tomake.
Do I want to put in what ittakes, that's right, to get
there.
That's right.
We talk about abs all the timebecause we work out abs abs, not
, yeah, a b s abs.
We talk about abs all the time.
And and with what we do runninghalf the week, crossfit half

(11:20):
the week you'd have to dosomething different, especially,
you know, being a little olderand genetics not playing a part.
Neither of us are really the.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
We're not genetic freaks.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Genetically.
Yeah, we're not geneticallyinclined to eat Doritos and do
much of nothing and just haveincredible abs.
But what does it take to getthose?
We've talked about it.
A lot of it's the kitchen andthat's the.
You know, we'd both rather gowork out for two hours instead
of one and then be able to, youknow, go by Crave, shout out to

(11:55):
our business, go by Crave andthen pick up whatever our
favorite dessert is instead.
That's right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You're right, you know, but for me, I mean, I
think motivation is you can.
Motivation can come fromanywhere, you know, like you see
little clips, or you see littlethings anywhere, or just people
, or just words, or whatever canmotivate you to do something
and become better.
And for me, though, it's shortlived, because motivation, it

(12:28):
can only bring you to thedoorstep of change.
Motivation will not make youchange.
You cannot get motivated enoughto change.
You can only get motivatedenough to get to the doorstep of
change.
And then you have to dosomething different to move from
motivation to discipline.
And I've always said, you know,motivation is not going to

(12:50):
sustain you.
Like man, you can get fired up.
Man, me and you and Mike, wecan be slapping five today about
something, we're like boom, andthen we wake up tomorrow like,
oh, ok, you know, now we got todo something else different
today.
But I've always said this isthat that desire, motivation.
Desire is the road, butdiscipline is the only thing

(13:11):
that's going to keep you on theroad.
And you know discipline iswhat's going to set you on a
different course.
You know, motivation may get youmotivated.
Hey, tomorrow we're going toget up and we're going to go
grind at the gym.
She motivated hey, tomorrowwe're going to get up and we're
going to go grind at the gym,but when the alarm goes off at 4
am, it's like I may go at 7.
I may go at 12.

(13:32):
I may not go at all, but I gotmotivated last night and I set
the alarm.
So there's something in me thatwants to change.
There's something in me thatgets ignited and motivated by
wanting to change.
But the actual change is awhole different thing.
It's a whole different thing.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
So I guess what we're really talking about is
motivation.
It's easy to get motivated, butthen what's the follow-up?
That's right, because whateverit is you're motivated to do,
how do you get there and that'sit.
It just the motivation will not, will not sustain you.
And to see results in whateverit is, whether it's finishing a

(14:14):
degree, you know, applying for apromotion, physical, related to
either lose weight or to to getabs, or then just things like
running a race.
We were talking to pastor mikeabout his friend that wants to
do an iron man let's go, baby,let's go that's a lot of that

(14:38):
again.
You can be motivated to do it,but he's got a lot of work ahead
of him.
Yeah, yeah, because neither ofus even do.
Yeah, we do a lot.
But work ahead of him?
Yeah, yeah, he do, becauseneither of us even do.
Yeah, we do a lot, but we don't.
That's probably something wehave not set our sights on.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, that's a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So, whatever it is, you know even I think about
parents You're motivated to getyour kids on a sleep schedule or
to get them, you know, in aroutine of reading their Bible
and praying for themselves.
Whatever it is, you'remotivated to do it because you
know what the results will be.
But you got to, got to hang inthere, you got to stick, stick

(15:13):
with it, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, I mean, you think about it so.
So we're all Christian in thisroom here and you go to church
and you know the spirit of Godwill quicken you and sometimes
the pastor's words can evenmotivate you and inspire you.
But tomorrow is where you haveto make the decision to move

(15:35):
from inspiration and motivation.
So you know, how do you becomedisciplined and consistent?
Now here's the one thing.
I asked you this yesterday orday before we were talking, and
I asked you, I said do you feellike I'm a pretty consistent
person?

Speaker 2 (15:49):
And your answer was you are ridiculously consistent,
to the extreme that it drivesme crazy.
Why does it drive you?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
crazy that I'm consistent.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Because I do not tend to desire to be consistent.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, that is true, and so, while I may drive you
crazy that I'm consistent, itdrives me a little crazy that
you don't want to be asconsistent.
But I would say this I thinkwhen you're obligated to
something, you are consistent.
But I would say this when youare, I think when you're
obligated to something, you areconsistent Left to your own

(16:31):
demise, not so much.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
No, if I'm left, to my own demise and I'm not
consistent, then I'm outplanting a garden and I don't
know how to garden.
I've actually done that before,you've done that I remember
that summer.
That was terrible.
That was a one and done.
You grew some beautiful weeds,I did, and fertilized them,
because I didn't know thedifference between what was
actually supposed to be tomatoplants and weeds when they grew.
Tomato plants and weeds whenthey grew, um so yeah, I mean,

(17:02):
if I'm left to my own demise,I'm not naturally gonna be
consistent for for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
yeah, okay, so so then, all right, let me ask you
this now, and I know you're likeyou always put me on the spot.
But why?
Why do you feel like thoughleft?
Because because there arepeople and you you could agree
with this.
There are people who arenaturally, uh, consistent.
They're naturally routine, theynaturally have a knack for just
sameness.
I saw Grace post about wheellast night, something about your

(17:26):
husband's not going to leaveyou.
He's ordered the same sandwichat the restaurant for nine years
.
And why is it that there arepeople who are just naturally
consistent, but then there arepeople like you, which there's
not good or bad?
I'm just asking the questionwhy is it, though, left?
To your own demise, you're notnaturally consistent, that
you're ch-ch-ch-ch, but when youget engaged in something, you

(17:49):
become very consistent.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Well, I think, for me personally two things.
One is time management.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
And sometimes being consistent with something.
If I'm consistent to do thisthing, whatever it is, every day
, to get the result that I'mtrying to achieve from my
original motivation, then I'vegot to allow time for that and
um.
The second thing is is I liketo constantly be doing something
new.
So when I start filling up myschedule with too many new

(18:18):
things, even if I may have triedto allow time for something,
eventually something has got togo.
So I think, trying to stay forme, staying on track with at
least a small handful of thethings I was motivated about and
manage my time well for those,and not continually taking on
everything I get motivated aboutand manage my time well for

(18:39):
those, and not continuallytaking on everything I get
motivated about, because Imotivation and excitement are a
little different, but I can getexcited about a lot yes, that's
just true.
Yes, yes, absolutely and I don't, I don't know, are those I mean
, they're, they're sisters,maybe your cousins.
Excitement and motivation,kissing cousins, probably.
What did you say?
Kissing cousins?

(18:59):
Oh, that was not clear for me.
So yeah, so I think for methat's what mine is Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, well, and I know that one of your struggles,
especially when you were havingsome business coaching, was
time management blocking offtime for specific things and
then not only blocking off timeactually using that time to what
you blocked off, right.
And so you're results-orientedperson, right, and I understand
that.

(19:26):
Discipline, consistency, bringsresults, okay.
But then there are people whoare naturally acclimated to just
be consistent and routine, andit's not always about results,
it's just how their personalityis wired.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
And do you think that , just knowing you, I think I
know the is wired.
And do you think that, justknowing you, I think I know the
answer.
But do you think that you'rejust a naturally wired,
consistent person?
Yes, yeah, I do too I don'tthink it takes much work for you
to be.
No, we're not talking aboutdiscipline, consistency right I
don't think it takes takes muchwork at all for you to be
consistent, because that's yourcomfort level by nature.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
It it is.
Yeah, I'm a routine samenesstype person, right, because it's
just that's how I'm wired,right.
And you know, god has a senseof humor because he puts us
together, right.
So you know, but there's that.
So I think you know one of thethings that, in order to become
disciplined and consistent, isthat you do have to know your
strengths and weaknesses, whichwe're talking about here.
You know your strengths, youknow your weaknesses, and we

(20:21):
talked last time, I think, aboutbeing self-aware.
That's one of the highest formsof self-discipline is
self-awareness.
You know, socrates said you'vegot to know thyself, and I think
that's important because I knowwhere I need to be more
consistent or more disciplined.

(20:41):
And when I know myself and Iknow my strengths and weaknesses
, it's not hard for me to wakeup every day.
It's not hard for me to wake upevery day and do the same thing
, but there are places to whereI struggle with discipline, and
that's where it's at.
I think for me, the hardestthing when it comes to
discipline is you have to removedistractions, and this is where
you and I disagree.
Some and it's not like fightingdisagree, but I'll explain it

(21:04):
For me.
I'm a snacker, I love snacks, Ilove sugar.
I'm the kind of guy that'sgoing to be like way deep in a
reese's tree, reese's easter eggbag, with my my finger in my
belly and stuff all in my beard,because like I go deep when I

(21:27):
go snack is that like a moviereference?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
you said that a few times before.
Is it the um?

Speaker 1 (21:30):
it's a reference, yeah, okay, but anyway, so I'm,
I have, I have a problem withthat.
So when I am on somethingstrict or disciplined or I've
got to dial my stuff in becauseI've got something big coming up
which Saturday I'm running 50miles it's the first time I've
ever run a 50-mile race and I'vehad to dial my stuff in I can't

(21:51):
just be crazy and so I tell youlook, I can't have this stuff
in the house, you've got toremove temptation.
And your response is whatnormally you you're like you're
just going to have to.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I mean, you need to learn to walk by it and and and
be fine, but but it doesn'tbother me, right, there's,
there's, there's things that Ihave hid now from you, that I've
not even opened.
Or, yes, I've got a whole bagof those christmas cookies that
I put up from you that you canopen?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
no, no, I know those are there.
You don't remember.
That's on my when I finish my,it's on my day.
After that they're up there.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well then, I did yeah well then, then you've been,
I've really worked while nowlooking through the pantries.
But yeah, I mean I can walk byit over and over.
It can be laid on the counter.
So I don't because we'redifferent with discipline.
Even I probably can be moredisciplined in a lot of areas,
especially food.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
But yeah, you have to remove the distraction from you
and have it out of your purview.
So we disagree because you'rethe type of person who can put a
candy bar in their nightstandand eat it for a week.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Or longer.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'm the type of person who can put a candy bar
on my nightstand and, as we'retalking, getting ready to watch
something on TV, you're like,where's your candy bar going?
I'm like, bro, it's gone, I ateit.
It is gone, and so I have toremove distractions.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's us at the movies when we would go Like you
would get a box of Reese'sPieces and I may get a box of
something, and then I ask youfor Reese's Pieces when the
movie starts and they're goneand then, whatever it is that I
bought a box of, it's stillthere for two or three, you know

(23:42):
two or three weeks in my purse,yes.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
And what you may not know is when you go to the
bathroom, you eat some of yourcandy mine too.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
No, I don't doubt that.
But okay, so, talking aboutother things that are not just
food related, you know,distractions.
I've heard of people takingapps off their phone and you
absolutely have to do that.
Sometimes, um, you may need todelete apps off of your tv.
If there's stuff that you knowthat you don't need to be
watching, you may need to, youknow, do whatever it is.
This is so simple, but we justdon't, as as a society now do it

(24:11):
.
Sometimes we don't turn ourphone on, do not disturb, or
airplane mode or power it off.
I'll be honest, I don't knowthe last time I've powered my
phone off, and very rarely do Iever completely cut it off to
avoid distraction.
We just don't do that.
I mean even in church.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
We don't.
It's not uncommon to lookaround and I'm sure that we are
all texting about how good thesermon is.
I'm sure we're saying man, Imean he that right there that
was, it didn't leave no crumbslike yeah, I'm sure that's what
it is it's not like what.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Do you want to go eat after right?
No, and so bro, he's taking along time.
We.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
We just we're not good sometimes at eliminating
the distractions that may helpus to be disciplined, and that's
a good point.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
It's a good point, eliminating distractions, no
matter what it is.
It's not just about food.
We're making that about, youknow, because we're making it a
joke.
But whatever it is, you know,if you're one of those people
and I'm just using this exampleif you're one of those people
and I'm just using this as anexample if you're one of those
people who you've got to havethe TV on at night to go to
sleep, you might have to removethat, because you know there's a

(25:23):
whole other thing about sleephygiene, and you know I'm a big
sleep hygiene guy yeah, I knowyou are.
And if you text me late at nightMike texted me last night.
I'm out, bro, like I'm gone,just who I am.

(25:44):
I cut my screens off.
I try to read those type ofthings, so removing temptations.
I think the other thing ismaybe setting clear goals, have
an execution plan.
Here's the thing.
How do you know if you don'tset a goal, if you don't have
some kind of goal out there?
How do you know if you'resuccessful or not?
What does that look like?

(26:04):
I don't know.
Where are you headed?
I don't know.
You know.
What does that look like?
Well, I I don't know.
I don't where you headed.
I don't know.
It's just like getting in thecar and saying where you want to
go.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Let's just go you know, I think this time and we
talked about this, for we'redoing 75 medium, I think this
time for me I had no goal, justbeing honest, um, and so it's
been really, really hard for me.
I've struggled because therethere wasn't any.
I didn't.
I don't have a huge race comingup that I couldn't do if I

(26:33):
didn't buckle down and do 75medium.
That's right.
I don't.
I didn't have a huge weightloss goal like I did before when
I did 75 hard, and so I havesaid again and again I, I, I,
you know, I don't care it's andI don't really consider it a
failure, because I know that Ireally already failed when I
didn't have a goal in mind whenI started.
But I have not been 100%compliant on 75 medium.

(26:55):
The one thing I've done everyday is to work out and do
something for at least 30minutes, but being 100%
gluten-free and sugar-free.
There's been days that I said,okay, I'm going to be at this
place when we were in Colorado.
I'm never gonna be here againanytime soon, so I am gonna go
to this restaurant and I'm gonnaeat, um, those kind of things
because I didn't have goals.

(27:18):
75 hard was the hardest thingI've ever done in my life and
I've talked about before all thething.
You can look that up because itchanged my life, and I say it
all the time.
You you would think I'm a paidambassador, but I am not.
But it's still to this pointtwo years later has still.
You can look at my life and seehow much it's changed if you
know me.
But I was 100% compliant with75 hard as hard as it was

(27:38):
because I had a goal.
So I think, having a goal andmeasurements with that, I took
my picture every day, I weighedevery day, I did everything
every day so I could keeptracking my progress and my
successes.
Even in the gym I was doing newthings I'd never done before.
This time I'm just checking thebox because I said I would do
it with no goal in sight.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, and obligation is probably the enemy.
It's the enemy.
Obligation is probably theenemy of discipline, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I can see that.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Because if you're obligated to do something, it's
like you know.
So I think that you're rightHaving something in front of you
, a goal, a marker, a milestone,something you know.
At the first year I set my goalto keep my weight at 190 or
below, and you know that's whatI'm at.
I've shed about 12 pounds, I'msomewhere in that neighborhood,

(28:29):
and I'm trying to get to a goodrunning weight.
You know to feel good, and soyou've got to have something out
there, and if you don't havesomething out there, it's going
to be hard to stay disciplined.
I think you also have topractice daily disciplines of
just consistency, and you've gotto force yourself to do what

(28:51):
does not come easy.
That's hard.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
You know people are reading the Bible through in a
year.
If that's your goal, you've gotto get through Leviticus and
you've got to get throughNumbers and some of those things
.
Because you've got a goal andthe daily discipline to do
whatever it is.
If you're trying to work on adegree and you're an online
student, the daily discipline tolearn that stuff and to stay

(29:14):
with it and that's it a dailydiscipline.
Because you know you can't readthe Bible through in a year
likely and have good success Ifyou go four days without reading
some of those awful chaptersand you got to do it all on
Saturday afternoon.
You know, whatever it is, itdoes require a daily that's
right A daily.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
And you know, for me I've said it, I'm trying to
learn Spanish and I've been 80%disciplined.
I'd like to say I was 100%disciplined every day, but I'm
not.
But even over the dailydisciplines, I told you the
other day and I know you didn'treally care because you were
doing something else I said, ohmy God, I read that whole
sentence in Spanish.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
I did read it.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I said I read the whole thing.
I knew exactly what it said andit was exciting for me because
I began to see okay, this ispaying off.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
And you're going to have to stay disciplined to do
that because we have a newfriend in our life and you're
going to have to staydisciplined to do that because
we have a new friend in our lifeand we are having to
communicate back and forth onthe app and we had some crazy
communication the other day.
We did and I said I have noclue what's going on here
anymore, so you're going to haveto be disciplined, since I'm
way behind to learn the Spanish.
I know, but I don't want tosound like that guy.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
That's like when it's tardies and I'm using all these
terms like I'm pretending toknow stuff.
I want to be able to actuallyconverse with people, because
there's those people when you goto the Mexican restaurant, all
of a sudden the dad of the groupturns into a Spanish major
Gracias.
I mean, he's never said graciasa day in his life, but all of a
sudden now the chips come andit's gracias.
I don't want to sound like thatguy, so I'm trying to temper

(30:47):
that.
But I think, just beingconsistent, doing what doesn't
come easy, every day, every day,you've got to create new habits
, schedules, routine, whateverit looks like.
You're not going to changeeverything all at once, and I
think that's the problem.
People say when they writethese lofty goals, man, I'm
going to.
They put 15 things out there.
That's not happening.
You're not going to change 15things.

(31:08):
What is one thing that if youhad to change in the next three
months?
What is one thing you couldchange in three months?
Could it be having a disciplineof getting up at a certain time
and whether it is you know ifyou're a Christian, if it's
reading the Word or if you'renot a Christian getting up and
you do something else.
What is that?

(31:34):
One thing that you could changein three months?
Then change that.
And then what happens is calledthe power of habit stacking.
And you stack one habit on topof the other, and the power of
atomic habits.
One of my favorite books and hetalked about habit stacking.
And all of a sudden, this onediscipline takes over in your
life, to where it becomes secondnature.
And you don't think about, now,I have to do this every day.
Now, just this is who I am.
And then, all of a sudden, thathabit becomes ingrained in you

(31:56):
and it becomes something natural.
And then the next time, youstack another habit on top of
that.
Before you know it, you're fourhabits deep of something that
just now is who you are and itchanges your life.
It's powerful, it changes yourlife.
It's powerful, it changes yourlife like I'm trying to get like
.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
One of the things now is you hanging up your clothes
every day.
That's something that I'mbetter because we're trying to
keep that you are, becauseyou're.
I've noticed, though, thatyou're becoming in the habit of
it now.
You're finally, all this time,settling into the habit of it,
and so you don't take, take themoff and lay them down to put
them up after a couple of daysor until they accumulate, and

(32:33):
for a lot of people, that's abig deal.
You hear of treadmills beingwhere everybody throws their
clothes, or an extra chair, orjust keeping them in the laundry
basket, and so you know,because we became disciplined
years ago, we fold the laundryimmediately, try to get it put
up.
We didn't do that when we ago.
We we fold the laundryimmediately, try to get it put
up, right.
We didn't do that when we wereraising kids.
We probably sometimes did liveout of laundry baskets.
I don't know how raising fourkids that close together is a

(32:55):
bit of a blur for me sometimes.
I don't remember what happened,I just know we're trying to
survive, but just that's.
That may seem so small, butlike for me, especially being
married, like that's great.
Yeah, I get it that you've madethat become a habit.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
But that's it, and it's sometimes things that now I
don't even think about.
When we come home from a trip,I unpack a suitcase before you
do now.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
And like your stuff still and like normally you
drive.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, I mean not for a week, but like yeah, you do it
immediately, I do itimmediately.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, but I've changed that idea about myself
and I think you know.
Another thing that I like tothink about is having a backup
or contingency plan.
You know we talked about thisand again, I'm going to run 50
miles.
It'll be the longest race I'veever done in one single distance
and there's cutoffs.

(33:48):
Okay, you have to be at acertain place at a certain time
or they cut you off and youdon't get to continue.
Well, for instance, I've got tobe at, I've got to have 43.5
miles done in 10 hours or Idon't get to finish.
Now, you know, for runners whoare listening at this, they're
like bro, you know.
But for like power lifters andcrossfitters, like man, I can't

(34:09):
ever run.
That you know.
Here's the thing.
Let's just say for kicks andgiggles that I get cut off at
43.5 miles and they say you'redone, bro, you didn't meet the
time or whatever.
I could leave there and I couldsay what an accomplishment and
it is, so I'm not belittlingthat.
Okay, I could say what anaccomplishment, that's the

(34:29):
longest I've ever ran.
I can't go in though, for me,my personality, I can't go into
Saturday thinking, well, that'llbe the longest I've ever ran,
even if I get cut off.
I have to go in with themindset that I'm absolutely
going to lay everything out onthat trail and I'm going to

(34:51):
finish and I'm going to get mybuckle or my gold medal or
whatever it is and I'm going tohurt on Sunday from that.
That I'm going to that.
I can't go in with the mindsetof if this don't work, this will
be okay, because that's notgood, that's not good for my
discipline and that's not goodfor my mindset.
And I think that I've got tochange my perception about

(35:13):
willpower.
You know you have way morewillpower than you think you do.
You have way more in you thanyou think you do.
It's just that when and I'vesaid this before and I use it
that when it hurts, when thingsstart to hurt no matter if it's
working out or if it's marriageor if it's kids or if it's

(35:33):
church or if it's life whenthings start to hurt, that's
where you have to lean in,that's where you have to lean
into things.
You don't quit there.
You have to lean in when ithurts.
And a buddy of mine, like I,like to watch people hurt and I
like to watch people hurt and Ilike to know can I hurt you when
I'm working out.
If we're the same age, mike,don't count, mike's way younger
than I am, but like if you'rethe same age, I want to know are

(35:56):
you willing to hurt as much asI am in this particular area?
And when I see you're hurting,I'm going to hurt a little bit
more to see if you want to hurtsome more.
And if you don't, then I'mgoing to, I'm just I'm, then I'm
going to keep hurting.
But if you want to hurt, thenI'm going to say how much you
want to hurt.
Then I'm going to hurt more andwe're going to see who will
hurt more.
A buddy of mine says, you know,he says let's drag him out to

(36:16):
the deep end and drown him, andso that's kind of his adage.
When he sees me grinding he'slike that's what he'll tell me.
And so you've got way morewillpower than you think you do
and you've got to have thatmindset.
I mean, for me it's a killermindset.
You've got to go out there withthat mindset that I'm going to
accomplish this, because that'swhere discipline really kicks in

(36:37):
, and I think that's just kindof for me.
So how about you Anything therewith any of that?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think one of the most important things we've said
, though, is that you knowmaking sure you have a plan.
If it truly motivates you andit's something that you just
can't get away from, have a planand and set yourself down and
have a meeting with yourself toknow, to assess what it's going
to take, what it's going to taketo get to your goal, and then

(37:06):
think about the reward rightonce you get there.
I've heard people with weightloss you know that Photoshop
themselves on bikini picturesand put it on the refrigerator.
I did that.
People that put it on therefrigerator are like there's
nothing in my refrigerator Ineed.
That's not where I would beputting pictures of myself in a
bikini.
Mine would be over on thatcabinet, to the left of the
refrigerator, to the stove thathas candy in it, but whatever it

(37:30):
is that that you're, you know,put yourself in a cap and gown.
If you're doing the hard work ofafter you finish your nine to
five, going to school at night,put yourself in a picture of a
cap and gown, I love.
There's a commercial out rightnow.
I don't know which of theonline colleges it is, but he's
literally studying man.
I wish I could think about itso that whoever's listening

(37:51):
could go look it up.
He's literally studying, buthe's picturing himself on
graduation day.
He's picturing somebody like ata hotel loading his bags and
his nice car and all thesethings, and so that's what you
got to do.
Sometimes, think about thereward and keep that in front of
you when the motivation hasworn off a little bit and you're

(38:12):
settling in to the disciplineand the consistency part.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
And that's powerful Visualization of seeing what you
do, because I want to encourageyou, tiff, and I do.
You absolutely can go conquerit.
I don't know what it is you'refacing, but you can absolutely
go conquer it and just havingthat actualization of thinking,
man, when I get there Not if Ithink you've got to change your

(38:36):
vocabulary, it's not if it'swhen, when I get there this is
what it's going to be the reward.
And I think just finishing hereyou're never going to be 100%
perfect.
It's never going to go 100%like you think it's going to go.
You're going to have days thatare bad.
You may even have a bad hour,bad day, bad week.

(38:59):
You can choose to quit or youcan get right back up the next
day and say you know what?
Yesterday was sucked, but todayI'm going to get back on and
I'm going again because there'ssomething greater out there, and
that's what discipline does.
Discipline will allow you toget up and dust yourself off and
go get it again.
Bible says that I fall seventimes and I rise eight.

(39:20):
Listen, I don't care, man, youmay be on number six, get up,
get up.
And discipline will allow youto do that.
And I tell you, discipline andconsistency will absolutely
change your life.
It'll change your marriage,it'll change your family, it'll
change your church, it'll changeyour job.
It'll change your whole life,everything around you, if you
just decide to quit beingmotivated and the next day not

(39:44):
be disciplined, because thoseare different.
So any final words, nope, that'sgood.
I think that's a good place tostop.
Hey, thank you so much forlistening and we appreciate you.
If you find people that aregoing your direction, hop in the
flow with them and hustle withthem.
Thanks for listening.
Hey, yeah, let's see how youdoing the pressure.

(40:07):
I've been wanting this forever.
Yeah, let's see how you dounder pressure.
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