August 18, 2024 • 66 mins
How does an immigrant family's escape from communism shape a pediatrician's views on modern healthcare? Dr. Renata Moon, a pediatrician based in Spokane, Washington, joins us to share her unique perspective on the healthcare system's current challenges, highlighted by her family's harrowing experiences under communist regimes. Drawing chilling parallels between past and present, Dr. Moon warns us about the severe implications of media control and propaganda on both societal norms and medical practices.
Dr. Moon reveals her firsthand experiences from a visit to Czechoslovakia during its communist era, contrasting it with today's political landscape. The troubling influence of pharmaceutical companies on healthcare, exploring the professional risks faced by those who dare to challenge the status quo. Dr. Moon's personal account of retaliation following her Senate testimony on C O V I @-19 vaccine safety for children underscores the broader theme of suppressed free speech within the medical field.
The episode also touches on the alarming rise in mental health issues among children and the critical role of parental responsibility in addressing behavioral challenges. Dr. Moon passionately argues for the preservation of individual freedoms and open dialogue, advocating for collective action to protect our children's future. This compelling conversation serves as a stark reminder of the vital importance of maintaining freedom and ethical integrity in healthcare and beyond.
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Today.
Dr Renata Moon is on the phonewith us and she is from the
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Upper Midwest.
Doctor, are you there?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
How are you?
I'm well.
Thank you for taking your timeand visiting with us, and she is
from the upper midwest.
Doctor, are you there?
Yes, I am.
How are you?
I I'm well.
Thank you for taking your timeand and visiting with us, as you
, if I didn't tell you, we're in98 countries now and we got
well over 45 million followers,with seven languages that I know
of are being translated, and sowe'll we'll try and keep it to
the point for all these peoplethat have to do all that work,
okay.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, that's wonderful, wonderful audience.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It's been a great deal and I'll tell you what I
have.
A lot of great people all overthe globe.
They hear the same things we'rehearing, but let's start out
with you, I mean who are you?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
who are you?
Yeah, you know, I'm just a, I'ma practicing pediatrician that
uh woke up to the horror ofwhat's happening as we rolled
into 2020, 2021, yeah, and youknow, I think, uh, once your
eyes are open to this, it's,they're pretty wide open well,
let's not get too advanced.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Let's.
Who are you?
How did you start out?
I understand you're from Prague, or your parents were from
Prague.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, no, I was born here in the US to parents who
legally immigrated from acommunist country.
My dad was actually born inArgentina and my mom was born in
Prague, and they met in college.
They met behind the IronCurtain, as they called it, of
communism in formerCzechoslovakia, and so I grew up
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in a family where I just knewhow lucky I was to be growing up
in America.
I was born right here inAmerica.
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I valued freedom, continue tovalue freedom today, but I knew
how lucky we were because Iactually saw communism firsthand
as an 11-year-old when my momtook me back into the country to
visit relatives.
So I saw it firsthand.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Holy cow I bet that was an eye opener, huh.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, you know, people say there's that old you
know song, and I think it's moreof a poem of you know, over the
river and through the woods toyour grandmother's house.
Well, for me it was a littledifferent.
I didn't really know mygrandparents very well.
They were trapped behind, youknow, behind really enemy lines
of communism.
They couldn't speak openly andfreely.
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My aunts and uncles wereabsolutely, you know, restricted
, like all citizens were, intheir everyday life and what
they were allowed to do, youknow.
They couldn't even travel fromone village to another without
checking in at the local policedepartment and announcing
themselves and receivingpermission to be there to visit
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you know someone in an adjacentvillage, very restricted in
travel.
Very restricted in any jobs theycould choose.
You know they were assignedjobs.
Yeah, I saw that firsthand.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Isn't that something you know?
I always try to flash back intosome episodes, and one of our
first ones was a gal who metHitler and she was in her 90s
then, and I hear the samestories.
What could you tell the youngor the people who listen to this
broadcast of what are we seeingin today's world versus what
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you've seen when you weregrowing up?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, I think what I'm concerned about is I'm
seeing young people who are allof a sudden embracing communism
as if it's this wonderful thing.
Look back at history.
Communism has never, neverturned out well.
These tyrannical systems don'tturn out well.
They turn out terribly, for,you know, millions of people
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that die under their grasp.
And I'm concerned about theseyoung people who seem to think
that, oh, this will be different.
Just look back at history, it'syou know.
You take away people'sincentive to work, you take away
people's ability to just livemeaningful lives.
It's just really sad to watchit unfolding here.
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I don't have any amazing storyof having met any one person
when I visited under communism,but I was there on several
occasions, several occasions andthe one thing that stands out
to me and there's many things,but one one day, my I was
traveling there through Viennaand my suitcase was lost in the,
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in the airline.
They just lost it.
So I didn't have any clothesexcept for the clothes on my
back, and I had to go shoppingin Czechoslovakia.
So I bought clothes there.
They were all Czech clothes.
And you know here, I am adescendant of, of relatives that
came from Czechoslovakia, so Ibought clothes there.
They were all Czech clothes andyou know, here I am a
descendant of relatives thatcame from Czechoslovakia, but
people could tell I was anAmerican as I was walking down
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the street before I even utteredanything or said anything.
And I do speak Czech.
But you know, people can tellpretty quickly because you kind
of lose.
You know there's ways they cantell a little differently.
But I said how in the world?
I said these are totalstrangers.
I said how in the world do youknow that I'm an American when I
haven't said a word and I'mwearing Czech clothes?
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And I, you know, I come frompeople who were born here in
this country.
And they looked at me and saidwell, it's obvious, you're happy
when you walk down the street.
You look happy.
And that just struck me, youknow, because I wasn't looking
down at the ground and justlooking depressed and like
everybody else was around me.
I was smiling apparently, andlooking around, and they, they
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could tell immediately that, oh,I was an American, I wasn't
from there.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You didn't doom and gloom.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I wasn't doom and gloom yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You didn't have the Eeyore going.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I guess not, wow yeah .
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I know, isn't that something?
If we keep letting them cancelour culture, we'll never know
where we came from, and thenthey'll never know to repeat the
future of the past.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, they have that saying that history is written
by the victors, right.
So they keep twisting thingsaround in ways that are just
gaslighting us.
They're censoring us, they'regaslighting us, they're twisting
everything in a way that fitstheir narrative and it confuses
people, it loses them in, youknow, this mist and this smoke.
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They can't quite tell which wayis up, but they're really doing
their best to confuse the wholesituation.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
We have an interesting presidential race.
We have a Californian and wehave a Minnesotan, and both of
them aren't qualified for officeas far as I'm concerned, but
they they on a regular basis.
They do that in their job andpeople can't see past that yeah,
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you, I'm not sure what you're.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm sorry I missed part of what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, I'm getting to the point of.
They constantly are gaslightingus.
They want us to believe thattheir way is the best way.
You know just exactly what yousaid.
And they're running forpresident.
I mean, not that the other guyis much of a pick, but you know
you look at this and go.
Really, that's the best the DNCcould throw out there.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, I mean, everything is being gaslit right
now.
You look at the news and it'snot the news, right, we've had
such propaganda in our media forso long.
I saw that with my grandmotherin her apartment listening.
We were actually sitting withmy grandmother when I was little
, I was 11.
And we were listening to thevoice of America, which was us.
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It was the Americans piping inthe truth to a nation that no
longer had any free and fairpress.
They didn't have that and I wasso proud as a little kid to
know that us, the Americans,were piping in the truth to my
relatives.
I never thought I'd see suchpropaganda here in our nation,
and it's everywhere.
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There's no real news.
President Trump calls it thefake news, and of course he
knows.
But it's propaganda.
It's just lies, and here andthere they'll sprinkle some
truth in it just so that itconfuses people all the more.
But there's no truth in thisanymore.
You know we see those headlines.
They're confusing everybody andyou know the bottom line is
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we're not in a position rightnow to elect anyone with the way
that this is looking.
We don't have true and accurateinformation coming to us from
our media.
Nope, you know we have greatconcerns about the, about the
fraud in our election process.
Yeah, and my my mom says well,we had elections under communism
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.
We had the day off and we allwent down and we all voted and
we all had a box that we had tocheck for each different
position for these candidates,and they watched over us to make
sure we checked the right boxand in many cases it was only
one box, but you had to check itand that was their quote
unquote freedom.
They didn't have any freedom.
Their leaders were selected forthem and we, unfortunately,
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have very much the same thinggoing here.
Our leaders are being selectedfor us, which does not give us,
the people, any say in theelection process.
Right, all this swirl ofpropaganda, but you control the
media and you control the masses.
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That's been something thatwe've been taught historically
and we're watching it play out.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Again and again.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I take us down this rabbit hole to set you up for
what you've seen in yourprofessional career.
Here's why, if you can justimagine for just a minute of how
we're being controlled as faras the media is concerned the
fake news, whatever you want tocall it and here you are, a
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certified professional MDpediatrician and you're being
told what to do and what not todo Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, the last few years, absolutely, and I forgot
to give my disclaimer at thebeginning of this.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Let's start that Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
My words are my own.
I'm not here representing anyemployer, past or present.
I always give that disclaimerbecause they've come after me
for simply thinking and speaking.
It's become that crazy.
So five years ago you know, 19,2019, I would have said we were
quite free in our ability tothink, in our ability to tell
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patients.
You know, I recommend this or Irecommend that, or this is my
advice to you.
After 25 plus years ofpediatric practice, which that
was my job.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And now, today, I can tell you we don't have that
freedom.
We're not free to tell youopenly what we believe to be the
best course of action for yourchild.
We don't have that ability withmany of our employers, for most
pediatricians, for most of ouremployers.
Our news media because we havenews media in medicine also we
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get email newsletters that comeinto our files, our email files.
We get written newsletters thatcome in, you know, talking
about this medication or thattreatment.
They're all full of propagandatoo, and propaganda is the same
thing really as lies, lies foran intent to deceive and for an
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intent to push people in acertain direction.
So if you look at our media asphysicians, it's completely full
of propaganda, and everywhereOur journals are fraudulent.
You know these are funded bybig pharma.
Pharmacy funds everything.
So they control everything.
Our government has become oneof the biggest advertisers for
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these pharmaceutical companiesand they control our medical
schools.
They control your physician'semployers, they control your
physician's employers.
They control your health care.
So you may be sitting in thatexam room and you may be still
be thinking.
Well, my doctor has my bestinterest at heart.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But how many other people are sitting in that exam
room with you unseen?
Because your doctor has manyconflicts of interest right now.
Many.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, isn't that something?
You took an oath, a Hippocraticoath.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Is that correct?
We did yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That you can't employ .
Speaker 3 (15:54):
You can, but it comes with a price.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Have they gone after you?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I've held my Hippocratic oath because I spoke
out, so I'm not going to, Ithink, get into the whole story
here tonight, but many haveheard about, perhaps about what
happened.
It's not about what happened tome, it's about the fact that it
happened and it's everywhere.
So I spoke about my legitimateconcerns about the dangers of
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the COVID-19 shot being given topediatric patients, and I spoke
at a Senate hearing at therequest of a sitting US Senator
in Washington DC.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And, as a result of that, my medical school employer
.
I had two jobs.
I was a clinical professor ofmedicine at several medical
schools.
I've done that my whole career.
I've taught medical students,residents, interns, and I also
was a practicing pediatrician,actively seeing patients, and my
medical school employer saw mytestimony.
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This medical school employerwas in Washington State,
completely on the opposite sideof the country from Washington
DC, where I spoke at the Senatehearing, but my employer didn't
like that.
I spoke and you can read theletter they wrote to me a few
months later and then theyterminated my employment just a
few months after that lettercame, alleging really they did
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it by not renewing my annualfaculty contract at the last
minute, just days before it wasto be renewed, and then, after
they, you know, failed to renewmy annual faculty contract, thus
terminating my employment.
My employer reported the factthat I'd spoken at this public
hearing in Washington DC to theMedical Licensing Board of
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Washington State.
They reported me for potentialunprofessional conduct for
having expressed my concerns.
So you can read all about that.
If the listener is interestedin reading more, you can
actually read the actual lettersthat were written by the
medical school.
You can read the letters fromthe licensing board.
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I should say I had a cleanrecord.
I have always had a cleanrecord of patient care, despite
working as a hospital physicianfor most of my career with
high-risk, really sick childrenin my care.
I've never had any lawsuits,never had any actions against me
.
But the licensing boardinvestigated me for speaking at
the Senate hearing just forvoicing my concerns about the
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dangers of the shot and I Isimply said at that Senate
hearing.
I said look, there's anincrease in myocarditis.
I showed the package insertfrom a box of mRNA product.
That was a massive piece ofpaper that said intentionally
blank on it and was otherwiseblank except for the words
intentionally blank.
I said we're being silenced andcensored and I said other
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nations have shut this down fortheir younger citizens, for
their pediatric patients andyoung adults, because they say
that the dangers exceed anybenefits of the shot for young
people.
I said what are we doing?
What are we doing?
So really, I was asking andpresenting my concerns to a
member of my government to asitting US Senator and for that
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they came after me.
Yeah, did they?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
hang you on stuff, or was it trumped up and did it
get dismissed, or how did it end?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, so it's complicated, but they
investigated someone whoactually no longer even had I no
longer actually had an activelicense even in the state at the
time, because, after practicingin Washington State for 19
years, I had decided I could nolonger ethically practice
medicine there if I couldn'tspeak, and this was earlier in
the year.
So so I had actually notrenewed my license.
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So at the time that they cameafter me, I no longer had an
active state medical license,and they knew that when they
launched the investigationagainst me.
And then they dismissed it afew months later after making me
answer many questions.
All those questions are publicinformation, you can read them,
they're on the webpage but theyharassed me for a while with
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those questions and then theydismissed it on the grounds that
I no longer had an active statemedical license.
Well, they knew that when theylaunched the investigation
against me in the first place.
So to me, this is a very clear,direct weaponization of our
regulatory agencies against thefree speech of a US citizen and
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practicing pediatrician withlegitimate safety concerns, and
that should worry all of us.
We've come to a place that Inever would have imagined we
would be in and, given my familyhistory.
I'm particularly terrifiedabout the place that we find
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ourselves in.
This is the beginning of theend for all of us if it
continues down this path.
We cannot be silencing people,especially with the data that
has become increasingly clearover the last several years.
I mean, there's no one evenquestions now that there's been
an increase in myocarditis inyoung people as a result of this
shot.
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The truth is coming out and Istand by the words that I spoke
at that Senate hearing.
I was concerned then, I remainhighly concerned and alarmed now
, and we need to all continuespeaking the truth or we will
lose that ability and lose thatfreedom.
But the bottom line is, had Igone to that Senate hearing and
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spoken things that were concernsbut were untrue, then I still
had the right to do it.
But as it turned out, I wasright, and so we find ourselves
in an interesting place, right.
So this is not about whathappened to me specifically.
This is about the fact that ithappened and as a nation, we
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can't tolerate this.
As a world, we can't tolerate aplace where the pharmaceutical
companies get to push whateverproduct they want without any uh
, without any stop button right,without any way to no due
diligence yeah nothing, yeahright we had a.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
we had a doctor in this state of Minnesota here and
his name is Dr Scott Jensen.
Does that ring a bell to you?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, I've met him.
He's a wonderful man oh.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I'll tell you what he's aces with me and he'd call
me up and he'd say, let's do ashow.
And he'd be in town and we'djust start talking.
And I'll tell you what he's gota level head on his shoulders
and we really appreciate thetime we had with him and you
sound like that kind of person.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, he's a really great man and actually the news
had just come out about mylosing my position at the
medical school as a result ofthat public testimony in
Washington DC.
And I was at an event in DC andactually the news had just
broken about that situation thatI was facing.
And there he was and he saidyou got to be kidding me.
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He said I just, I said he saidI just was reading about your
situation this morning andsending it on to all these
people so they would know whathad happened.
And here you are.
It was the first time.
It was the first time we met.
He said it just.
It just must be meant to bethat we met this morning.
So, yeah, he's a great advocatefor free speech and all that
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needs to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So you met this morning.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
No, no, I met him.
Sorry, this was like a year agowhen it came out?
Yeah, a year ago, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, what a good guy .
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He was at an event.
He's a very good guy and I youknow, actually, as the news was
breaking about what washappening in my situation, I was
actually in Washington DC forthis event, but that day, as the
news was breaking, I happenedto be at Arlington, sitting next
to the Tomb of the UnknownSoldier, and I take that as a
sign that we're doing the rightthing.
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We're all fighting for freedomhere.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
We are.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And that's what we have to continue to do, because
this is unbelievable that wehave gotten to this point.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, doc, I'm at 20 minutes into this first section
here and I've got to cut a break.
Let's come back to the showhere, if you can, and let's talk
about direction, what theconservative person or what the
logical person or whatever thatis, how do you stop and say you
know, enough is enough.
Can you stand by?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
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My band podcast.
Dr Moon is in the well, not inthe studio, but in presence.
She's a heck of a gal and I'lltell you what we can learn some
things from her.
Doc, you come back with us.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, thanks for having me back.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, you had mentioned in the last section.
Where do people find this stuff?
Let's plug some intel into this.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, so I actually for having expressed my
legitimate concerns about thesafety of a product being given
to children.
I now have a legal team andthey're a wonderful legal team,
but as crazy as this all is,they have been wonderful and
stepped in to help all of usfight for our freedom.
They're called Silent MajorityFoundation and they created a
webpage so you can look atsilentmajorityfoundationorg.
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I'll just one wordsilentmajorityfoundationorg.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
And if you scroll down that webpage just a little
bit, you'll see Dr Moon, that'sme.
Click on that and then it opensup a whole section that
describes what happened.
Has the actual letters underthe section called case
documents.
So, absolutely, look at theletters.
These are all publicinformation.
These are letters from themedical school, letters from the
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Washington Medical Commission,which is the licensing board of
Washington State, which is thelicensing board of Washington
State, all coming after aphysician for speaking at a
Senate hearing at the request ofa sitting US senator and
expressing her concerns.
And yeah, it's pretty surreal,I think, from my end to look at
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what's happened.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Oh, I can imagine and to think, wow, you're being
attacked.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
This is what my family, you know, my grandfather
fled from the communist system,my mother fled from the
communist system, and then herewe go, and I think every
generation is clearly, you know,going to be in a position where
we have to fight against thistype of tyrannical system coming
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into place.
I know how proud my grandfatherwas about the fact that my
mother had managed to get out ofthe country.
He was so proud that we weregrowing up here in America.
I remember just, you know, hewas old enough that they would
let him alone come visit, or,you know, they didn't really
care about their senior citizenscoming back.
They wanted their workforce tocome back.
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But so he had a chance to visitAmerica on a couple occasions
and he just was so proud of thiscountry and the fact that, you
know, my mom had managed to getus here and that I was born here
in America, and just all thethings that a new immigrant
family feels at being given notthe, not the gift of wealth in
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America, but the gift of freedomand it's what you said.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It was the um you did .
They did the process to notjust, hey, come on over and go
where you want to, type of thingthere was.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
There was an intake.
Yeah well, I'm glad you broughtthat up.
So my parents, when theyescaped from the country, they
fled, and my mom was actuallycharged in her absence for not.
She was actually charged andsentenced to several years of
hard labor camp and her chargewas failure to return to her
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country.
That was the charge.
They sentenced her to severalyears of hard labor if she to
return to her country.
That was the charge.
They sentenced her to severalyears of hard labor if she ever
was to be caught.
But by then she was here inAmerica and she had an American
passport.
They had to apply.
My parents applied forcitizenship and in those days
they were waiting and they werein Vienna in Austria, waiting.
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They applied like you wouldapply to college.
They applied to Australia,canada, the United States.
They had to prove that theywould not be a burden on society
If they came here.
They had to sign paperworksaying they would not go on any
state aid, that they would tryto work their hardest and
support themselves.
And they did exactly that.
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They came here.
They worked very hard.
They both had college degreesfrom Czechoslovakia that they'd
earned, but they didn't have anydocumentation of that because
they had fled with just theclothes on their back, so they
couldn't prove it at first untilmy grandmother smuggled the
papers out some number of yearslater.
But they just took menial jobs.
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My mom worked as a cleaninglady in some homes.
My dad mucked out horse stalls.
Those were their first jobshere in America and they were
proud of them.
They worked hard, theysupported our family and they
eventually were able to earnenough money that they were able
to put themselves throughgraduate school.
So both of my parents actuallyboth earned their PhDs here in
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America and are absolutely thejust the example of what it
meant to be an American in thosedays.
It meant you know, you workhard.
That rags to riches story, youknow came here with $2 in their
pocket and were able to earnPhDs and have very successful
careers, both of them here inthe land of opportunity, with
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nothing holding them back likethat.
But I want to be clear theywere vetted as immigrants.
They were absolutely vetted andthey came here as law-abiding
immigrants who wanted toassimilate into American society
, who wanted to be part ofAmerica, and they raised me to
love this country, absolutelylove this country.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So what do you think happened over the years?
Do you think that too manypeople got complacent with
saying the government and us,because you talked to some of
these people and they say, well,the government's going to pay
for it, and you got to slap theminside the head and say, really
, did you just hear yourself?
We are the government and weare paying for it.
So what happened to those?
(31:02):
How did they separate?
How did these people, thesecompanies, these manipulators,
teach these people that thegovernment is a separate entity
than who they are?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
How do, you do that.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, well, I think twofold.
I think one.
Clearly we became very soft asa country, where our kids had it
so good and they don't reallywant to work as hard, and they
just became softer and softer.
Why work so hard?
For 20 bucks an hour?
I want to earn more, and youhear that from this younger
generation.
Well, it's only a $20 an hourjob.
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I don't want it.
Only and.
I say to them, I say, are youkidding me?
I said do you have an advanceddegree, do you have a skill that
you can provide, or do you evenhave a high school degree?
And they say, well, no, I don'thave a high school degree.
And I say, well, I wouldsuggest you take that $14 or $20
an hour job and be verygrateful for it.
But but they lost their workethic.
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But, more importantly than that,I think what happened is very
clear, because my mom warned meabout this for years.
So when she was in high school,back under communism, they were
actively taught in her highschool classes.
Now, of course, she didn't doanything wrong.
I want to be very clear aboutthat.
My mom loves this country, verylaw-abiding, and loves this
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country.
She's still alive and this isher beloved homeland now.
But they taught them as highschoolers how to bring down a
nation like America, and notjust like America, but
specifically how to bring downAmerica.
And the plan was, over many,many decades, to erode family
values, to get rid of religion,to pit one group against another
(32:42):
.
You know, like they did duringthe Bolshevik Revolution right,
all these different revolutions.
You look at the Red Guard underChairman Mao in China.
I mean all these things havethe same sort of flavor, but pit
one group against another,erode the values, turn the youth
against their elders andagainst the culture of their
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country.
You know, control the media, getinto the media, control the
media.
This has all been done verymeticulously and very carefully
and very slowly over many, many,many years and really over
decades.
But my mom is just horrifiedbecause she says this is exactly
exactly what they taught uswhen I was a young child.
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I was being trained how to get,how to take care of a country
like America, how to take itdown and you bring it to its
knees from within by destroyingthe family values and by
destroying the units that makeour country function the family
and religion.
So it's all there.
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They were clear about it frommany decades ago how they would
do this, and it's a huge flawreally of our country in that we
are so forgiving and we are sokind and we do let so many
different people into our nation, which is what makes us that
wonderful melting pot of allthese different cultures and all
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these different opinions andideas, and it's wonderful.
But it's also a big flaw becauseit allows people to penetrate
into us in a way that we have toreally guard against, and we
became complacent.
We didn't see it happening.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And how do you not become jaded with all that?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
How do you handle it?
How do I?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, how do you?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
How do I handle?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
it.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Sure, I'll be honest, I'm not handling it terribly
well lately.
This is really starting to bevery frightening when I see them
coming after our free speech,when I see that we have reached
a tipping point with this wherewe have just tipped into what to
me appears to be completeinsanity and we have colleagues
(34:48):
and other citizens who seem likereasonably rational people, you
know, supporting this kind ofbehavior.
I do find it rather terrifyingand I think it's impossible to
ignore.
So I handle it by speaking outabout it.
I think that the more we speakout about it, the more it goes
away, and what we need iseveryone to stop being fearful
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and to speak out about it.
But you have to understand, as apracticing pediatrician in
Washington state, I was at theforefront of this.
Not only was I a clinicalassociate professor of medicine
at a medical school, so I couldsee what was happening at the
medical education level, but Iwas also a practicing
pediatrician in the state and Icould see what was happening to
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the mental health of ournation's children, which has
just plummeted off a cliff.
There.
You know, our children are nothealthy.
They're not healthy.
There are so many suffer fromanxiety and depression yep, yep,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
That's where I was going to take this.
Now, after the masks, after the, the covid, after the the
wrap-up of all these developingchildren, how long were you on
staff before you, uh, before youstopped to see this?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
well, I still practice.
I just don't practice inwashington any longer, so I left
washington state after all thisbrouhaha about my, my free
speech, but I still practice inour country and so I still
travel around the country and Iwork in different locations.
Right now, it's not evenlydistributed across the states.
(36:31):
Right that the mental health ofkids is maybe horrible in one
location and a lot better inanother, but what I saw in
Washington, I think, was wherewe are headed with all states,
if this continues, and thenumber of children, and to put
this into perspective for you, Iwant to say two things.
I want to say two things.
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One is that the COVID pandemicwas not the main catalyst for
destroying the mental health ofour kids, although it certainly
did that.
This started earlier with socialmedia and with the cell phone
use.
This was like around 2012, 2014.
Our emergency rooms beganfilling up with kids who were
anxious, depressed, suicidal,and they were all holding a
weapon in their hands, and thatis the cell phone.
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The cell phones were feedingthem absolute garbage and they
were buying into it.
And then, on top of that, thenthe pandemic hit with the forced
masking, the isolation, thehorrible things that we did to
children for really noscientific reason at all, and
then their mental health justcompletely fell apart.
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And so, to put this inperspective, when I first began
practice in the late 1990s, Iwas in a very busy practice in
Houston, texas, one of my firstpractices, and I did not even
know who my local childpsychiatrist was.
I maybe sent one or twochildren a year to see a child
psychiatrist.
People were fine, the kids werehealthy.
(38:01):
Forward now to Washington State,and the last time I practiced
in Washington State was in 2021.
I was sending.
I had probably six or seven aday that were anxious, depressed
.
Six to seven a day that wereanxious, depressed, possibly
suicidal, but had mental healthissues.
Six to seven a day, wow, andmultiple referrals a week to see
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psychiatry, to see psychology,to get into the mental health
care system.
The mental health care systemis overwhelmed with your
children, with our children,with our nation's children,
filling it up.
We're destroying their future,we're destroying their mental
health, and it's coming from allthe crazy happening and it's
coming from the cell phones andit's coming from the horrible
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indoctrinating kind of materialthat is being fed to them from
Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Right, right, and or let's fast forward a little bit
to the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Okay, pick a gender.
We all know this as commonsense people, but really this is
going to go down that path.
These kids are confused already.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, we have taken children and we have given them
an altered reality, and wewonder why they're confused when
they grow up.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
We're not giving them .
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We're not giving them .
Okay, this is real, this isfiction, and Dr Mark McDonald,
who is a wonderful pediatricpsychiatrist, who's been very
outspoken about what's happeningacross our country, said it
very clearly one time when I wasspeaking with him.
He said look, you know, yourchild runs around when they're
little and their imaginationsare great.
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That's wonderful.
That's how they grow.
They're flapping their wings,they're a bird, they're flying
on the lawn as they're runningaround, but now they've climbed
up onto the roof.
Well, you don't stand there andsay, way to go, jump off the
roof, you can fly.
You're a bird.
Jump off the roof, you can fly,you're a bird.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
You can identify as a bird.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
You say.
You say, billy, get the heckdown here right now.
You're not a bird, you need toget on the ground and you don't
let them jump from that secondstory building.
Right?
We are letting our nation'schildren jump from a second
story building by, by teachingthem all of this.
This crazy and it is and whereit's become very confusing for
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people is is that so manyAmericans and I'm one of them,
I'm sure you are too none of uswant to be unkind to that rare
child who is truly transgender,or that rare child who, you know
, has different ideas about whothey are growing up.
Okay, but there's a differencebetween being kind and
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understanding to a child thathas a rare difference in the way
they're being, you know,they're perceiving themselves,
and there's a difference betweenthat and actively promoting it
in the young years and that'swhat we're doing right now.
They are being indoctrinatedinto this and I will tell you
that when I practiced inWashington State this is
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horrifying to me still I hadchildren as young as three and
four years of age being broughtto my office by their parents
and their parents telling methat they were gender
transitioning that three andfour-year-old child.
But don't worry, dr Moon, theytold me, and they would name the
name of the child.
So-and-so has made up their ownmind.
(41:16):
Oh, this is a three-year-old,no, or a four-year-old, no.
I'm sorry, but we all know,even seven or eight-year-olds,
I'll be doing a physical examand all of a sudden, the seven
or eight-year-old startssquawking at me and has turned
into an imaginary flamingo.
Okay, I don't like.
That's great that they have animagination, but they're still
back and forth between realityand the truth and that's how
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vivid their imaginations are.
That's great, that's normal.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It is not normal for a parent to be telling a three
and a four-year-old that theyare something that they are not
and not being in that positionas a parent of a child like that
or a young adult like that.
We have some people that aroundus here in the city that would
that we know.
And she used that same analogyof her little boy trying to be a
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girl at the three and four yearold age and and everybody you
know, and even cps, wouldn'tstep in and say you know, this
is abuse.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
It's really difficult for me to witness this and for
all of us to see this and tothink anything but that it's
abusive.
Yes, how can it be anything butabuse, right?
If that same parent, if thatsame parent brought their child
to an office, to apediatrician's office, and said
to the pediatrician this is myfour-year-old son, billy.
(42:38):
I put a collar on him everynight, he wears a leash, we make
him bark like a dog and he eatsfood from a dog dish.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
We would call.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Child Protective Services okay, and yet when a
child says they're a furry inIllinois, the school pulls out
litter boxes for them and letsthem pee in the litter box.
This has become so insane thatone has to question where the
adults are, and not just theadults in that child's family,
but every adult in thatcommunity and in our nation,
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because this has got to stop.
This is ruining, this isdestroying the mental health of
our nation's children.
And so if you bring athree-year-old to me and you're
telling that three-year-old thatthey're not a girl this is a
three-year-old girl comes intomy office and that parent is
telling that three-year-old thatthey're not a girl, that
they're a boy.
They've given them a boy name,they refer to this child with he
(43:31):
, him pronouns, no-transcript.
(44:00):
And the surgeries that are beingperformed on these young people
are catastrophic.
You are turning them in topatients who will receive
hormones and medications for therest of their life for a
condition that theyself-diagnosed or that they were
potentially raised to believethey had by people in their
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environment.
You're turning them into apatient for the rest of their
life with cross-sex hormones andwith puberty blockers, with
other medications, and then, ifyou perform surgery on them.
You're not putting that tissueback when they're an adult and
they say okay, I want my penisback.
That penis is not miraculouslygoing to reappear.
You have removed a perfectlyhealthy body part for absolutely
(44:45):
no reason.
I don't understand how we'vegone down this road, other than
that it is simply unbelievableand purely evil to have done
that to a child.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
And the answer here is well, I don't know if it's
the answer.
Let me rephrase that.
One of the things I see is toomany people aren't saying no
Participation trophies.
There's a team of 15 kids,everybody gets a trophy,
everybody wins.
You know, losing buildscharacter, yeah, yeah.
And when the parents don't havecharacter, the kids aren't
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going to have character.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, so yeah, we yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
No, go ahead, Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
No, I just was thinking how, you know, when we
I remember playing as a child wejust had, you know, we just had
the street.
We just went out and played inthe street.
Now I realize not everyonelives in an area where maybe
it's safe to go play in theirstreet, but let them have free
play, let them have it, usetheir imagination.
They can take a box and somemarkers and turn it into all
(45:47):
sorts of things.
A box that the dishwasher camein can become, you know, it can
become a spacecraft to take youto outer space.
It can become a car that youdrive and you go down to, you
drive it to Hawaii across theocean.
It's an amphibious vehicle.
You could do so many thingswith your box and your markers.
And instead we're teaching ourchildren to be fearful.
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We are teaching them thatfantasy equals reality.
We are teaching them there is nosuch thing as no, and one of
the worst things we're doing iswe're putting these weapons into
their hands at very young ages.
By weapons I mean the cellphones, the gadgets, the
electronics.
I travel our country now and Isee kids in clinics and in the
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hospital settings.
I see kids sort of in differentlocations.
I still see a lot of healthychildren in our country, but I
see them primarily in ruralareas, where they're, and it's
just really amazing to me.
I walk into the exam room andthey actually look me in the eye
and they say hello.
And I actually caught onereading a book the other day.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
He didn't have a gadget in his hands, but he had
a book.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I hadn't seen a kid reading a book in an exam room
for a very long time.
I almost did a double take.
I'm like, wow, this kid'sreading a book, and it was a
good book, it wasn't a piece oftrash.
I could see the title of it andand I said I said what do you
do after school?
And he says, oh, I have choresto do on his family farm.
These kids are healthy.
They have they're, they'retaking part in activities with
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their livestock.
They have chores to do.
They don't have a gadgetattached.
You know, help your childrenunderstand that these cell
phones are poison.
They're poison and they canhave very healthy relationships
with their group of friends ifthey all carry a flip phone and
they can get a hold of a parentif they need you.
They can do all the things thatthey want to do with a phone,
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but not the things that are badfor them, such as the videos and
just the sheer indoctrination.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I was one of the parents, one of those guys that
I didn't let my kids have phonesright away.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
They had their licenses and all that stuff,
probably just after they wereable to get a phone.
And I wouldn't buy them one, Isaid no.
But all their buddies, alltheir friends had it.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, good for you.
We you know it was one of thelarger experiments that was done
on our kids because no onereally knew what these gadgets
constantly in the hands of thechild were going to do to them,
and I think we can see veryclearly that the mental health
of this nation's children is notgood.
We've fallen off a cliff with itIf you compare the late 1990s
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and the mental health of kidsthen to now, it's very clear we
have a shortage of psychiatrists.
There's continuous talk inWashington state about how to
add more psychiatrists, morepsychiatrists.
My point there to my colleagueswas well sure, we need more
psychiatrists, morepsychiatrists.
My point there to my colleagueswas well sure, we need more
psychiatrists, but we need tocut the pipeline that's creating
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this mess in the first place,like who's looking at why this
is happening?
Yes, we need to deal with thefact that it is happening, but
let's figure out how to getthese kids into a healthier
place to begin with.
And you know, you look at asix-year-old and they're just
your average six-year-old stillis so happy and carefree and,
(49:17):
you know, just wonderfullyspirited.
And by the time they get to be16, they're jaded.
They've been watching too muchof this programming where they
tell them how much their life ishorrible, how they shouldn't
have to work.
You know they're feeding them.
Have you watched this children'sprogramming lately?
It's just garbage.
It's just garbage.
I sat down and watched somerecently.
It's horrible, and I even foundan app that was just available.
(49:39):
Someone showed it to me.
It was disgusting.
It was geared towardseight-year-olds and it was an
app that talked about having aon the app.
It had animated characters andit talked about having um, about
the characters having sexualrelations with one another and
like in and in groups, likethree or four of them at once,
and you're supposed to pick whoyour sexual partners would be,
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and this was geared towardseight year old children.
This is absolute garbage and itneeds to be shut down.
And that is not.
You know.
People squawk about oh, thatdown.
And that is not.
You know.
People squawk about oh, that'scensorship.
That's like you know, right no,that's.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
That's called parenting.
Yes, that's called parenting.
You're not their friend, you'retheir parent and I want them to
say that, first of all, we loveyou, your mom, and I love you,
we, we are going to guide youand after that we will be
friends.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
But when you become an adult, we'll become friends,
but when you're a child, I yourparent, and that's the way it is
and we've lost that.
We've lost that in our country.
I see kids in practice as crazyas this sounds, I see four and
five-year-olds fairly often inclinic who are not fully potty
trained and these areneurologically normal children,
(50:51):
you know, typically developingchildren.
They're not children who youknow have neurological
challenges or things like thatwhere they might not be able to
toilet train, but these areneurologically typically
developing children who are nottoilet trained and some of them
I've met.
They literally will changetheir own pull-ups at some point
.
But they don't really care aboutgoing to the bathroom because
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they're just really used tositting in it.
And the first time I sawchildren like this I thought
what in the world?
And then I just thought more ofthem.
You know, I had a pediatriciancolleague the other day tell me
that she left general pediatricpractice because she couldn't
take it any longer because thejust the behavioral challenges
that were coming in, one afteranother.
(51:35):
She said this is, this is stuffthat we never used to see.
It's because they're not beingparented.
I had a number of parents bringchildren to me because they had
missed over a month of school,like you know, 10, 11, 12 year
olds and I.
Well, why have they missed somuch school?
Because because he's sick.
And I said well, surely you'vebrought him into our office, and
(51:58):
if he's been sick for over amonth, you've been in here
because we would want to know ifthere's a fever for over, you
know, five to seven days.
Oh no, he hasn't had a fever,he's just really fatigued.
And so I'm taking a history andthe child goes to bed at 9
o'clock at night.
But I'm like well, what time doyou go to sleep?
Oh, about 4 or 5 in the morning.
These kids are playing videogames all night and the parent
(52:20):
knows, but then doesn't takethem to school the next day and
writes in an excuse.
And now the school's?
I mean, where is the parentingwe?
need parenting back in ournation.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Can't blame the kids.
You've got to blame the parents.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
But how did we get here?
Speaker 1 (52:35):
How did we get here?
How do we?
Speaker 2 (52:36):
fix this, because this is my next segue.
How do we fix this and how didwe get here?
How do you just say look peoplewake up, get your head out of
your butt.
Pay attention to what's reallyright.
Tell me your thought.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
I but pay attention to what's really right.
Tell me your thought.
I think we got here by turninginto a very fearful nation and
we became very fearful of sayinganything to anybody else and
very intolerant also oflistening to other people.
Right, like we've had, like I'msure you've seen this this
crazy, almost Civil War-likebehavior within families where
people quit talking to theirgrandparents, where they quit
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talking to their aunts or uncles, usually over politics, but
then but it, you know it, it'sso sad, and so they lose that
support system that they wouldhave had, you know, the
grandmother who would havehelped them raise the child and
shown them how, how to do that.
We've lost a lot of our support,our community support yeah
there's so many reasons for it,let me let's talk for a minute,
(53:36):
though, about what we can do,and I think this is this is the
part where I feel like there isso much that the listener can do
okay and because I know, as alistener, people, people sitting
there are probably thinking,okay, well, this communism,
slash Marxism, globalism,whatever you call it, ism, is
something I can't really fix,not individually, like none of
(54:00):
us can fix any of thisindividually, but together we
all can, and that is by notcomplying with the crazy and by
staying sane and logical for thechildren around you.
So please, like whatever you'redoing right now, many of you
have raised your own kids.
Many of you know exactly how totake care of kids and how to
give them a sane and rationalenvironment to be in childhood.
(54:24):
Find a child I mean I'm notsaying to do anything illegal,
but find a child in your familyor in your neighborhood or in
your community, through churchor through somewhere, and be a
meaningful influence on thatchild's life.
Help them.
Help them understand that whatthey're hearing at school, if
they attend these schools thatare indoctrinating them.
Help them.
(54:45):
You know that's another topic.
I right now feel like the kidsneed to come out of those places
, out of those schools, and betaught in an environment where
it's not crazy but be that saneinfluence on a child's life.
We can all do that and continueto push and speak for freedom,
free speech.
This young generation right nowis being taught that it's okay
(55:10):
to censor people, that it's okayto quiet other people's voices,
and they need to hear from youthat it's not okay that our
nation is built on many, manywonderful foundations, but one
of those is free speech andfreedom and that we need to
respect people's differingopinions.
We need to listen to them andwe need to not just shut them
(55:33):
down.
I think in part, we all becameintolerant of other people's
differing opinions because ofsocial media.
They put that button in therewhere you could silence people,
right what's?
it called on Facebook, where youjust push a button and you
block them.
I didn't ever do.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Facebook.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Unfollow, unfollow, unfollow or block something.
Oh, they said something Ididn't like.
I'm going to unfollow them.
No, teach these children.
Teach these children that it'sgreat to hear different opinions
.
That's how you grow, that's howyour mind grows.
That's how you develop.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
It's great to hear different opinions.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
Someone may say something totally out there, but
just say tell me more, why doyou feel that way?
And have a conversation aboutit.
And maybe you'll learnsomething.
You may not decide that youagree with them I certainly
wouldn't agree with a lot ofwhat's out there right now but
I'm interested in hearing aboutwhy people feel that way, and
sometimes, when they hear yourperspective, they'll change
(56:28):
their mind a little bit too.
That's how we all have thatdialogue, so please be an
influence in a child's life.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
And let's not weaponize it.
Whether you're on the left orright, or way left or way right,
don't weaponize that.
These kids, they need tounderstand that.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
It's okay to disagree .
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yeah, it is okay to disagree and, unfortunately and
that's something we didn't havetime to talk about really today
but that's part of what I'mreally alarmed about when it
comes to our medical schools,because these young people, you
know, a few years pass and allof a sudden, in the blink of an
(57:09):
eye, that high schooler is now amedical student, they're about
to become one of your futuredoctors and they are just as
intolerant increasingly inmedical schools now and in law
schools as we would imagine theywould be raised in this kind of
a climate.
So we're seeing students be veryintolerant of differing
perspectives and differing ideasand being able to tolerate that
.
And unfortunately, thosestudents are just a few years
(57:31):
from becoming your physician,and so we have a really huge
problem right now in terms ofour colleges and in terms of our
graduate schools medical school, law school, other doctoral
programs.
These students are not verytolerant and, yeah, we've got a
lot of problems that thiscountry will have to face as a
(57:51):
result of that coming, coming incoming years.
But, um, what we need to helpthese children find a better
foundation and and not everydoctor is going to be a doctor
house md yeah remember the tvshow doctor house yeah,
brilliant doctor, zero bedsidemanner.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, unfortunately, we couldtalk about medical education for
(58:15):
a whole hour.
We really have a lot ofproblems.
We have some really good peoplestill in medical school.
I don't want you to leavethinking that we don't, but we
have a lot of problems in ourmedical education right now,
first and foremost being thisloss of free speech across the
country.
It's not just the one medicalschool that came after me, but
(58:37):
it's all of them.
There's a problem with ourability to allow our students
and to teach them thatcritically thinking and speaking
out is okay.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Maybe a different episode for that one, huh.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
Yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah for sure.
With that I do.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
I do want to respect your time.
We are 33 minutes, 30, 34minutes into the second segment
and some parting words for thesepeople.
I know you just said anexcellent closeout about the,
about the kids yeah, I, I, we,really, I really the direction
we headed.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
We are headed in a direction that is extremely
dangerous and I believe thatmany people see what's happening
, but I'm alarmed that there arestill many in our nation that
do not see the danger that thiscountry is in right now.
My perspective from WashingtonState I saw it from a few
(59:33):
different angles, and we areheaded off a cliff as a country.
We have to turn this around,and the way that happens is by
not complying with tyranny, withridiculous asks of you, by
speaking out about your concernsabout what is happening, about
not being politically correctand not worrying about being
(59:53):
politically correct because wehave been too kind.
We are trying so hard to avoidany sort of confrontation with
people that we have let themjust walk right over us and it
is time to be very, very loud,and so I want to be very clear.
I know your listeners are fromall over the world.
This is not just for Americans,but it is time for this world
(01:00:14):
to be very, very loud about whatis happening.
We will not tolerate peopletrampling on our freedom.
We will not tolerate peopletrampling on our ability to
speak and to think and to takecare of our children and to take
(01:00:34):
care of our children.
We are literally fighting forthe future of this next
generation of children and forour grandchildren.
We literally are, and every daythere are new encroachments on
our ability to take part insociety as free human beings,
and we cannot let this continue.
So please continue to speak out.
I'm not obviously notadvocating for anything that
would be violent or physical,but we do this with our words
(01:00:55):
and we do not tolerate this anylonger.
We do not tolerate.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Well, not physical yet we have had civil wars in
this country, and sometimes youknow what they don't listen to.
Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
One method Well, yeah , are we going to eventually end
up in a civil war?
It's very likely and verypossible, but right now I can't
advocate for that Not at all mypush right now for everybody is,
of course not, but my push isfor everyone to stop being so
politically correct that you sithere and you let them trample
over your children's future andover the future of your
(01:01:25):
grandchildren, because there isno doubt in my mind they're
coming for your, your freedom,and they already have shown that
and they've already come for it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Why don't you hit that website again that you were
talking about earlier?
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Yeah, so please look at silentmajorityfoundationorg.
Silentmajorityfoundationorg I'mDr Moon M-O-O-N.
Read about what happened Again.
It's not about me.
I have lost income in this.
I at me.
I have lost income in this.
I may lose my entire career atsome point as they come after us
.
That is something I canabsolutely live with.
(01:01:59):
If that happens, I will beheartbroken.
It will not be a good thing,but I can live without my career
.
What I cannot live without isour freedom.
We all have to be free people,and this cannot continue, and so
we all need to speak out and dowhatever it takes.
If you lose a friend, so youlost a friend that wasn't a true
friend.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
You need to speak out , yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I sound like Pink Floyd in that one, don't I?
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I know it's an interesting world right now, for
sure.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
It is, but I thank you for coming on the show and
telling us your all.
We'll have another episode ifit works for you.
And let's talk about themedical system.
I was expecting today more ofanother COVID show and the wife
she goes.
You beat COVID to death.
I said I get it, but I want todo something different,
(01:02:49):
something that you had personalintel very intimate with that,
and you hit this ball right outof that park.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Well, thank you.
Yeah, when you see it, you haveto make a lot of noise about it
, and so I've done nothing butcontinue to speak out the last
several years about how alarmedI am with the direction that
we're headed in, and Iappreciate your platform to be
able to speak.
I'm happy to come on and I havemuch more to share about what I
see happening in the healthcaresystem just in general, and
(01:03:19):
especially how it pertains tothe training of this next
generation of physicians.
I've been involved inhealthcare medical education
training for my whole career andwe are headed in a direction
that really alarms me for for alot of reasons, but we can talk
about that more if you wouldlike to have me on sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I would, if you would , I would love that.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I would be happy to, yeah, happy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
And you mentioned Dr Mark McDonald.
Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Yes, uh-huh.
Yeah, do you have access to him?
Absolutely, I will plug you inwith him.
Yeah, I'll send it to you now.
He would love to come on yourshow.
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Because he sounds like a very interesting fellow.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Oh, he's wonderful, Dr Mark McDonald.
We interviewed him.
Dr Jim Thorpe and I co-host ashow called Two Docs, just T-W-O
and D-O-C-S on Worldviewweekend platform and we
interviewed Dr Mark McDonald forthat Not too long ago.
I'll I'll text you his contactinformation now.
I'm sure he won't mind.
Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Well, just reach out and say you know a guy, who
knows a guy who robbed a guyonce.
Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, no, I'll ask him, but.
I'll ask him, but, but he wouldlove to come on insight into
what's happening.
He's a child psychiatrist.
This is what he's done for hiswhole career, right?
My role as a pediatrician.
I've watched these kids grow upand they're now young adults
and I'm seeing yeah, we didn'ttalk about the COVID shot once
tonight, which is great, becauseI think it has been talked
(01:04:42):
about a lot, but it stilldeserves some discussion because
of the way in which it stillsits on our childhood basket.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
We talked about the side effects of COVID.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, but this trajectory that we're on right
now is not.
We're not going to survive thisas a nation if we don't turn
this around.
I'm being very blunt about it.
We're headed in a terribledirection.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Candor is good, we need that.
Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah, so anyway, thank you for having me on, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Dr Moon, thank you again for taking your evening
and I'll tell you what thisdrops on Sunday.
They're automatically dropped.
We'll put some flyers in there,some brochures, you know that
type of production stuff, and Idon't think.
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I have much editing to do.
Thank you, Wonderful Well.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
I appreciate it.
Thank you to the listener.
Thank you all for listening andfor your battle in support of
freedom.
Thank you.
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The Eastern Bloc yeah, I getyou, I hear you.
Maybe this will spread somelight on what you're doing over
there.
The Ukraine guys hey, I'm sorrythey're in that spot, but I get
(01:05:53):
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I mean, what do you do?
You're in the middle of a wartype of thing.
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Today.
Dr Renata Moon is on the phonewith us and she is from the
(03:21):
Upper Midwest.
Doctor, are you there?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
How are you?
I'm well.
Thank you for taking your timeand visiting with us, and she is
from the upper midwest.
Doctor, are you there?
Yes, I am.
How are you?
I I'm well.
Thank you for taking your timeand and visiting with us, as you
, if I didn't tell you, we're in98 countries now and we got
well over 45 million followers,with seven languages that I know
of are being translated, and sowe'll we'll try and keep it to
the point for all these peoplethat have to do all that work,
okay.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, that's wonderful, wonderful audience.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It's been a great deal and I'll tell you what I
have.
A lot of great people all overthe globe.
They hear the same things we'rehearing, but let's start out
with you, I mean who are you?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
who are you?
Yeah, you know, I'm just a, I'ma practicing pediatrician that
uh woke up to the horror ofwhat's happening as we rolled
into 2020, 2021, yeah, and youknow, I think, uh, once your
eyes are open to this, it's,they're pretty wide open well,
let's not get too advanced.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Let's.
Who are you?
How did you start out?
I understand you're from Prague, or your parents were from
Prague.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, no, I was born here in the US to parents who
legally immigrated from acommunist country.
My dad was actually born inArgentina and my mom was born in
Prague, and they met in college.
They met behind the IronCurtain, as they called it, of
communism in formerCzechoslovakia, and so I grew up
(04:52):
in a family where I just knewhow lucky I was to be growing up
in America.
I was born right here inAmerica.
(05:12):
I valued freedom, continue tovalue freedom today, but I knew
how lucky we were because Iactually saw communism firsthand
as an 11-year-old when my momtook me back into the country to
visit relatives.
So I saw it firsthand.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Holy cow I bet that was an eye opener, huh.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, you know, people say there's that old you
know song, and I think it's moreof a poem of you know, over the
river and through the woods toyour grandmother's house.
Well, for me it was a littledifferent.
I didn't really know mygrandparents very well.
They were trapped behind, youknow, behind really enemy lines
of communism.
They couldn't speak openly andfreely.
(05:54):
My aunts and uncles wereabsolutely, you know, restricted
, like all citizens were, intheir everyday life and what
they were allowed to do, youknow.
They couldn't even travel fromone village to another without
checking in at the local policedepartment and announcing
themselves and receivingpermission to be there to visit
(06:14):
you know someone in an adjacentvillage, very restricted in
travel.
Very restricted in any jobs theycould choose.
You know they were assignedjobs.
Yeah, I saw that firsthand.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Isn't that something you know?
I always try to flash back intosome episodes, and one of our
first ones was a gal who metHitler and she was in her 90s
then, and I hear the samestories.
What could you tell the youngor the people who listen to this
broadcast of what are we seeingin today's world versus what
(06:47):
you've seen when you weregrowing up?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, I think what I'm concerned about is I'm
seeing young people who are allof a sudden embracing communism
as if it's this wonderful thing.
Look back at history.
Communism has never, neverturned out well.
These tyrannical systems don'tturn out well.
They turn out terribly, for,you know, millions of people
(07:09):
that die under their grasp.
And I'm concerned about theseyoung people who seem to think
that, oh, this will be different.
Just look back at history, it'syou know.
You take away people'sincentive to work, you take away
people's ability to just livemeaningful lives.
It's just really sad to watchit unfolding here.
(07:32):
I don't have any amazing storyof having met any one person
when I visited under communism,but I was there on several
occasions, several occasions andthe one thing that stands out
to me and there's many things,but one one day, my I was
traveling there through Viennaand my suitcase was lost in the,
(07:53):
in the airline.
They just lost it.
So I didn't have any clothesexcept for the clothes on my
back, and I had to go shoppingin Czechoslovakia.
So I bought clothes there.
They were all Czech clothes.
And you know here, I am adescendant of, of relatives that
came from Czechoslovakia, so Ibought clothes there.
They were all Czech clothes andyou know, here I am a
descendant of relatives thatcame from Czechoslovakia, but
people could tell I was anAmerican as I was walking down
(08:13):
the street before I even utteredanything or said anything.
And I do speak Czech.
But you know, people can tellpretty quickly because you kind
of lose.
You know there's ways they cantell a little differently.
But I said how in the world?
I said these are totalstrangers.
I said how in the world do youknow that I'm an American when I
haven't said a word and I'mwearing Czech clothes?
(08:34):
And I, you know, I come frompeople who were born here in
this country.
And they looked at me and saidwell, it's obvious, you're happy
when you walk down the street.
You look happy.
And that just struck me, youknow, because I wasn't looking
down at the ground and justlooking depressed and like
everybody else was around me.
I was smiling apparently, andlooking around, and they, they
(08:57):
could tell immediately that, oh,I was an American, I wasn't
from there.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You didn't doom and gloom.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I wasn't doom and gloom yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You didn't have the Eeyore going.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I guess not, wow yeah .
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I know, isn't that something?
If we keep letting them cancelour culture, we'll never know
where we came from, and thenthey'll never know to repeat the
future of the past.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, they have that saying that history is written
by the victors, right.
So they keep twisting thingsaround in ways that are just
gaslighting us.
They're censoring us, they'regaslighting us, they're twisting
everything in a way that fitstheir narrative and it confuses
people, it loses them in, youknow, this mist and this smoke.
(09:46):
They can't quite tell which wayis up, but they're really doing
their best to confuse the wholesituation.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
We have an interesting presidential race.
We have a Californian and wehave a Minnesotan, and both of
them aren't qualified for officeas far as I'm concerned, but
they they on a regular basis.
They do that in their job andpeople can't see past that yeah,
(10:13):
you, I'm not sure what you're.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm sorry I missed part of what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, I'm getting to the point of.
They constantly are gaslightingus.
They want us to believe thattheir way is the best way.
You know just exactly what yousaid.
And they're running forpresident.
I mean, not that the other guyis much of a pick, but you know
you look at this and go.
Really, that's the best the DNCcould throw out there.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, I mean, everything is being gaslit right
now.
You look at the news and it'snot the news, right, we've had
such propaganda in our media forso long.
I saw that with my grandmotherin her apartment listening.
We were actually sitting withmy grandmother when I was little
, I was 11.
And we were listening to thevoice of America, which was us.
(10:57):
It was the Americans piping inthe truth to a nation that no
longer had any free and fairpress.
They didn't have that and I wasso proud as a little kid to
know that us, the Americans,were piping in the truth to my
relatives.
I never thought I'd see suchpropaganda here in our nation,
and it's everywhere.
(11:18):
There's no real news.
President Trump calls it thefake news, and of course he
knows.
But it's propaganda.
It's just lies, and here andthere they'll sprinkle some
truth in it just so that itconfuses people all the more.
But there's no truth in thisanymore.
You know we see those headlines.
They're confusing everybody andyou know the bottom line is
(11:40):
we're not in a position rightnow to elect anyone with the way
that this is looking.
We don't have true and accurateinformation coming to us from
our media.
Nope, you know we have greatconcerns about the, about the
fraud in our election process.
Yeah, and my my mom says well,we had elections under communism
(12:02):
.
We had the day off and we allwent down and we all voted and
we all had a box that we had tocheck for each different
position for these candidates,and they watched over us to make
sure we checked the right boxand in many cases it was only
one box, but you had to check itand that was their quote
unquote freedom.
They didn't have any freedom.
Their leaders were selected forthem and we, unfortunately,
(12:25):
have very much the same thinggoing here.
Our leaders are being selectedfor us, which does not give us,
the people, any say in theelection process.
Right, all this swirl ofpropaganda, but you control the
media and you control the masses.
(12:45):
That's been something thatwe've been taught historically
and we're watching it play out.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Again and again.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I take us down this rabbit hole to set you up for
what you've seen in yourprofessional career.
Here's why, if you can justimagine for just a minute of how
we're being controlled as faras the media is concerned the
fake news, whatever you want tocall it and here you are, a
(13:15):
certified professional MDpediatrician and you're being
told what to do and what not todo Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, the last few years, absolutely, and I forgot
to give my disclaimer at thebeginning of this.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Let's start that Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
My words are my own.
I'm not here representing anyemployer, past or present.
I always give that disclaimerbecause they've come after me
for simply thinking and speaking.
It's become that crazy.
So five years ago you know, 19,2019, I would have said we were
quite free in our ability tothink, in our ability to tell
(13:55):
patients.
You know, I recommend this or Irecommend that, or this is my
advice to you.
After 25 plus years ofpediatric practice, which that
was my job.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And now, today, I can tell you we don't have that
freedom.
We're not free to tell youopenly what we believe to be the
best course of action for yourchild.
We don't have that ability withmany of our employers, for most
pediatricians, for most of ouremployers.
Our news media because we havenews media in medicine also we
(14:31):
get email newsletters that comeinto our files, our email files.
We get written newsletters thatcome in, you know, talking
about this medication or thattreatment.
They're all full of propagandatoo, and propaganda is the same
thing really as lies, lies foran intent to deceive and for an
(14:53):
intent to push people in acertain direction.
So if you look at our media asphysicians, it's completely full
of propaganda, and everywhereOur journals are fraudulent.
You know these are funded bybig pharma.
Pharmacy funds everything.
So they control everything.
Our government has become oneof the biggest advertisers for
(15:15):
these pharmaceutical companiesand they control our medical
schools.
They control your physician'semployers, they control your
physician's employers.
They control your health care.
So you may be sitting in thatexam room and you may be still
be thinking.
Well, my doctor has my bestinterest at heart.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But how many other people are sitting in that exam
room with you unseen?
Because your doctor has manyconflicts of interest right now.
Many.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, isn't that something?
You took an oath, a Hippocraticoath.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Is that correct?
We did yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That you can't employ .
Speaker 3 (15:54):
You can, but it comes with a price.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Have they gone after you?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I've held my Hippocratic oath because I spoke
out, so I'm not going to, Ithink, get into the whole story
here tonight, but many haveheard about, perhaps about what
happened.
It's not about what happened tome, it's about the fact that it
happened and it's everywhere.
So I spoke about my legitimateconcerns about the dangers of
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the COVID-19 shot being given topediatric patients, and I spoke
at a Senate hearing at therequest of a sitting US Senator
in Washington DC.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And, as a result of that, my medical school employer
.
I had two jobs.
I was a clinical professor ofmedicine at several medical
schools.
I've done that my whole career.
I've taught medical students,residents, interns, and I also
was a practicing pediatrician,actively seeing patients, and my
medical school employer saw mytestimony.
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This medical school employerwas in Washington State,
completely on the opposite sideof the country from Washington
DC, where I spoke at the Senatehearing, but my employer didn't
like that.
I spoke and you can read theletter they wrote to me a few
months later and then theyterminated my employment just a
few months after that lettercame, alleging really they did
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it by not renewing my annualfaculty contract at the last
minute, just days before it wasto be renewed, and then, after
they, you know, failed to renewmy annual faculty contract, thus
terminating my employment.
My employer reported the factthat I'd spoken at this public
hearing in Washington DC to theMedical Licensing Board of
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Washington State.
They reported me for potentialunprofessional conduct for
having expressed my concerns.
So you can read all about that.
If the listener is interestedin reading more, you can
actually read the actual lettersthat were written by the
medical school.
You can read the letters fromthe licensing board.
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I should say I had a cleanrecord.
I have always had a cleanrecord of patient care, despite
working as a hospital physicianfor most of my career with
high-risk, really sick childrenin my care.
I've never had any lawsuits,never had any actions against me
.
But the licensing boardinvestigated me for speaking at
the Senate hearing just forvoicing my concerns about the
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dangers of the shot and I Isimply said at that Senate
hearing.
I said look, there's anincrease in myocarditis.
I showed the package insertfrom a box of mRNA product.
That was a massive piece ofpaper that said intentionally
blank on it and was otherwiseblank except for the words
intentionally blank.
I said we're being silenced andcensored and I said other
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nations have shut this down fortheir younger citizens, for
their pediatric patients andyoung adults, because they say
that the dangers exceed anybenefits of the shot for young
people.
I said what are we doing?
What are we doing?
So really, I was asking andpresenting my concerns to a
member of my government to asitting US Senator and for that
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they came after me.
Yeah, did they?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
hang you on stuff, or was it trumped up and did it
get dismissed, or how did it end?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, so it's complicated, but they
investigated someone whoactually no longer even had I no
longer actually had an activelicense even in the state at the
time, because, after practicingin Washington State for 19
years, I had decided I could nolonger ethically practice
medicine there if I couldn'tspeak, and this was earlier in
the year.
So so I had actually notrenewed my license.
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So at the time that they cameafter me, I no longer had an
active state medical license,and they knew that when they
launched the investigationagainst me.
And then they dismissed it afew months later after making me
answer many questions.
All those questions are publicinformation, you can read them,
they're on the webpage but theyharassed me for a while with
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those questions and then theydismissed it on the grounds that
I no longer had an active statemedical license.
Well, they knew that when theylaunched the investigation
against me in the first place.
So to me, this is a very clear,direct weaponization of our
regulatory agencies against thefree speech of a US citizen and
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practicing pediatrician withlegitimate safety concerns, and
that should worry all of us.
We've come to a place that Inever would have imagined we
would be in and, given my familyhistory.
I'm particularly terrifiedabout the place that we find
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ourselves in.
This is the beginning of theend for all of us if it
continues down this path.
We cannot be silencing people,especially with the data that
has become increasingly clearover the last several years.
I mean, there's no one evenquestions now that there's been
an increase in myocarditis inyoung people as a result of this
shot.
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The truth is coming out and Istand by the words that I spoke
at that Senate hearing.
I was concerned then, I remainhighly concerned and alarmed now
, and we need to all continuespeaking the truth or we will
lose that ability and lose thatfreedom.
But the bottom line is, had Igone to that Senate hearing and
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spoken things that were concernsbut were untrue, then I still
had the right to do it.
But as it turned out, I wasright, and so we find ourselves
in an interesting place, right.
So this is not about whathappened to me specifically.
This is about the fact that ithappened and as a nation, we
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can't tolerate this.
As a world, we can't tolerate aplace where the pharmaceutical
companies get to push whateverproduct they want without any uh
, without any stop button right,without any way to no due
diligence yeah nothing, yeahright we had a.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
we had a doctor in this state of Minnesota here and
his name is Dr Scott Jensen.
Does that ring a bell to you?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, I've met him.
He's a wonderful man oh.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I'll tell you what he's aces with me and he'd call
me up and he'd say, let's do ashow.
And he'd be in town and we'djust start talking.
And I'll tell you what he's gota level head on his shoulders
and we really appreciate thetime we had with him and you
sound like that kind of person.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, he's a really great man and actually the news
had just come out about mylosing my position at the
medical school as a result ofthat public testimony in
Washington DC.
And I was at an event in DC andactually the news had just
broken about that situation thatI was facing.
And there he was and he saidyou got to be kidding me.
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He said I just, I said he saidI just was reading about your
situation this morning andsending it on to all these
people so they would know whathad happened.
And here you are.
It was the first time.
It was the first time we met.
He said it just.
It just must be meant to bethat we met this morning.
So, yeah, he's a great advocatefor free speech and all that
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needs to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So you met this morning.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
No, no, I met him.
Sorry, this was like a year agowhen it came out?
Yeah, a year ago, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, what a good guy .
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He was at an event.
He's a very good guy and I youknow, actually, as the news was
breaking about what washappening in my situation, I was
actually in Washington DC forthis event, but that day, as the
news was breaking, I happenedto be at Arlington, sitting next
to the Tomb of the UnknownSoldier, and I take that as a
sign that we're doing the rightthing.
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We're all fighting for freedomhere.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
We are.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And that's what we have to continue to do, because
this is unbelievable that wehave gotten to this point.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, doc, I'm at 20 minutes into this first section
here and I've got to cut a break.
Let's come back to the showhere, if you can, and let's talk
about direction, what theconservative person or what the
logical person or whatever thatis, how do you stop and say you
know, enough is enough.
Can you stand by?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
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My band podcast.
Dr Moon is in the well, not inthe studio, but in presence.
She's a heck of a gal and I'lltell you what we can learn some
things from her.
Doc, you come back with us.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, thanks for having me back.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, you had mentioned in the last section.
Where do people find this stuff?
Let's plug some intel into this.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, so I actually for having expressed my
legitimate concerns about thesafety of a product being given
to children.
I now have a legal team andthey're a wonderful legal team,
but as crazy as this all is,they have been wonderful and
stepped in to help all of usfight for our freedom.
They're called Silent MajorityFoundation and they created a
webpage so you can look atsilentmajorityfoundationorg.
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I'll just one wordsilentmajorityfoundationorg.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
And if you scroll down that webpage just a little
bit, you'll see Dr Moon, that'sme.
Click on that and then it opensup a whole section that
describes what happened.
Has the actual letters underthe section called case
documents.
So, absolutely, look at theletters.
These are all publicinformation.
These are letters from themedical school, letters from the
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Washington Medical Commission,which is the licensing board of
Washington State, which is thelicensing board of Washington
State, all coming after aphysician for speaking at a
Senate hearing at the request ofa sitting US senator and
expressing her concerns.
And yeah, it's pretty surreal,I think, from my end to look at
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what's happened.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Oh, I can imagine and to think, wow, you're being
attacked.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
This is what my family, you know, my grandfather
fled from the communist system,my mother fled from the
communist system, and then herewe go, and I think every
generation is clearly, you know,going to be in a position where
we have to fight against thistype of tyrannical system coming
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into place.
I know how proud my grandfatherwas about the fact that my
mother had managed to get out ofthe country.
He was so proud that we weregrowing up here in America.
I remember just, you know, hewas old enough that they would
let him alone come visit, or,you know, they didn't really
care about their senior citizenscoming back.
They wanted their workforce tocome back.
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But so he had a chance to visitAmerica on a couple occasions
and he just was so proud of thiscountry and the fact that, you
know, my mom had managed to getus here and that I was born here
in America, and just all thethings that a new immigrant
family feels at being given notthe, not the gift of wealth in
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America, but the gift of freedomand it's what you said.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It was the um you did .
They did the process to notjust, hey, come on over and go
where you want to, type of thingthere was.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
There was an intake.
Yeah well, I'm glad you broughtthat up.
So my parents, when theyescaped from the country, they
fled, and my mom was actuallycharged in her absence for not.
She was actually charged andsentenced to several years of
hard labor camp and her chargewas failure to return to her
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country.
That was the charge.
They sentenced her to severalyears of hard labor if she to
return to her country.
That was the charge.
They sentenced her to severalyears of hard labor if she ever
was to be caught.
But by then she was here inAmerica and she had an American
passport.
They had to apply.
My parents applied forcitizenship and in those days
they were waiting and they werein Vienna in Austria, waiting.
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They applied like you wouldapply to college.
They applied to Australia,canada, the United States.
They had to prove that theywould not be a burden on society
If they came here.
They had to sign paperworksaying they would not go on any
state aid, that they would tryto work their hardest and
support themselves.
And they did exactly that.
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They came here.
They worked very hard.
They both had college degreesfrom Czechoslovakia that they'd
earned, but they didn't have anydocumentation of that because
they had fled with just theclothes on their back, so they
couldn't prove it at first untilmy grandmother smuggled the
papers out some number of yearslater.
But they just took menial jobs.
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My mom worked as a cleaninglady in some homes.
My dad mucked out horse stalls.
Those were their first jobshere in America and they were
proud of them.
They worked hard, theysupported our family and they
eventually were able to earnenough money that they were able
to put themselves throughgraduate school.
So both of my parents actuallyboth earned their PhDs here in
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America and are absolutely thejust the example of what it
meant to be an American in thosedays.
It meant you know, you workhard.
That rags to riches story, youknow came here with $2 in their
pocket and were able to earnPhDs and have very successful
careers, both of them here inthe land of opportunity, with
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nothing holding them back likethat.
But I want to be clear theywere vetted as immigrants.
They were absolutely vetted andthey came here as law-abiding
immigrants who wanted toassimilate into American society
, who wanted to be part ofAmerica, and they raised me to
love this country, absolutelylove this country.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So what do you think happened over the years?
Do you think that too manypeople got complacent with
saying the government and us,because you talked to some of
these people and they say, well,the government's going to pay
for it, and you got to slap theminside the head and say, really
, did you just hear yourself?
We are the government and weare paying for it.
So what happened to those?
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How did they separate?
How did these people, thesecompanies, these manipulators,
teach these people that thegovernment is a separate entity
than who they are?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
How do, you do that.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, well, I think twofold.
I think one.
Clearly we became very soft asa country, where our kids had it
so good and they don't reallywant to work as hard, and they
just became softer and softer.
Why work so hard?
For 20 bucks an hour?
I want to earn more, and youhear that from this younger
generation.
Well, it's only a $20 an hourjob.
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I don't want it.
Only and.
I say to them, I say, are youkidding me?
I said do you have an advanceddegree, do you have a skill that
you can provide, or do you evenhave a high school degree?
And they say, well, no, I don'thave a high school degree.
And I say, well, I wouldsuggest you take that $14 or $20
an hour job and be verygrateful for it.
But but they lost their workethic.
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But, more importantly than that,I think what happened is very
clear, because my mom warned meabout this for years.
So when she was in high school,back under communism, they were
actively taught in her highschool classes.
Now, of course, she didn't doanything wrong.
I want to be very clear aboutthat.
My mom loves this country, verylaw-abiding, and loves this
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country.
She's still alive and this isher beloved homeland now.
But they taught them as highschoolers how to bring down a
nation like America, and notjust like America, but
specifically how to bring downAmerica.
And the plan was, over many,many decades, to erode family
values, to get rid of religion,to pit one group against another
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.
You know, like they did duringthe Bolshevik Revolution right,
all these different revolutions.
You look at the Red Guard underChairman Mao in China.
I mean all these things havethe same sort of flavor, but pit
one group against another,erode the values, turn the youth
against their elders andagainst the culture of their
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country.
You know, control the media, getinto the media, control the
media.
This has all been done verymeticulously and very carefully
and very slowly over many, many,many years and really over
decades.
But my mom is just horrifiedbecause she says this is exactly
exactly what they taught uswhen I was a young child.
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I was being trained how to get,how to take care of a country
like America, how to take itdown and you bring it to its
knees from within by destroyingthe family values and by
destroying the units that makeour country function the family
and religion.
So it's all there.
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They were clear about it frommany decades ago how they would
do this, and it's a huge flawreally of our country in that we
are so forgiving and we are sokind and we do let so many
different people into our nation, which is what makes us that
wonderful melting pot of allthese different cultures and all
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these different opinions andideas, and it's wonderful.
But it's also a big flaw becauseit allows people to penetrate
into us in a way that we have toreally guard against, and we
became complacent.
We didn't see it happening.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And how do you not become jaded with all that?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
How do you handle it?
How do I?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, how do you?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
How do I handle?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
it.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Sure, I'll be honest, I'm not handling it terribly
well lately.
This is really starting to bevery frightening when I see them
coming after our free speech,when I see that we have reached
a tipping point with this wherewe have just tipped into what to
me appears to be completeinsanity and we have colleagues
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and other citizens who seem likereasonably rational people, you
know, supporting this kind ofbehavior.
I do find it rather terrifyingand I think it's impossible to
ignore.
So I handle it by speaking outabout it.
I think that the more we speakout about it, the more it goes
away, and what we need iseveryone to stop being fearful
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and to speak out about it.
But you have to understand, as apracticing pediatrician in
Washington state, I was at theforefront of this.
Not only was I a clinicalassociate professor of medicine
at a medical school, so I couldsee what was happening at the
medical education level, but Iwas also a practicing
pediatrician in the state and Icould see what was happening to
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the mental health of ournation's children, which has
just plummeted off a cliff.
There.
You know, our children are nothealthy.
They're not healthy.
There are so many suffer fromanxiety and depression yep, yep,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
That's where I was going to take this.
Now, after the masks, after the, the covid, after the the
wrap-up of all these developingchildren, how long were you on
staff before you, uh, before youstopped to see this?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
well, I still practice.
I just don't practice inwashington any longer, so I left
washington state after all thisbrouhaha about my, my free
speech, but I still practice inour country and so I still
travel around the country and Iwork in different locations.
Right now, it's not evenlydistributed across the states.
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Right that the mental health ofkids is maybe horrible in one
location and a lot better inanother, but what I saw in
Washington, I think, was wherewe are headed with all states,
if this continues, and thenumber of children, and to put
this into perspective for you, Iwant to say two things.
I want to say two things.
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One is that the COVID pandemicwas not the main catalyst for
destroying the mental health ofour kids, although it certainly
did that.
This started earlier with socialmedia and with the cell phone
use.
This was like around 2012, 2014.
Our emergency rooms beganfilling up with kids who were
anxious, depressed, suicidal,and they were all holding a
weapon in their hands, and thatis the cell phone.
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The cell phones were feedingthem absolute garbage and they
were buying into it.
And then, on top of that, thenthe pandemic hit with the forced
masking, the isolation, thehorrible things that we did to
children for really noscientific reason at all, and
then their mental health justcompletely fell apart.
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And so, to put this inperspective, when I first began
practice in the late 1990s, Iwas in a very busy practice in
Houston, texas, one of my firstpractices, and I did not even
know who my local childpsychiatrist was.
I maybe sent one or twochildren a year to see a child
psychiatrist.
People were fine, the kids werehealthy.
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Forward now to Washington State,and the last time I practiced
in Washington State was in 2021.
I was sending.
I had probably six or seven aday that were anxious, depressed
.
Six to seven a day that wereanxious, depressed, possibly
suicidal, but had mental healthissues.
Six to seven a day, wow, andmultiple referrals a week to see
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psychiatry, to see psychology,to get into the mental health
care system.
The mental health care systemis overwhelmed with your
children, with our children,with our nation's children,
filling it up.
We're destroying their future,we're destroying their mental
health, and it's coming from allthe crazy happening and it's
coming from the cell phones andit's coming from the horrible
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indoctrinating kind of materialthat is being fed to them from
Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Right, right, and or let's fast forward a little bit
to the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Okay, pick a gender.
We all know this as commonsense people, but really this is
going to go down that path.
These kids are confused already.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, we have taken children and we have given them
an altered reality, and wewonder why they're confused when
they grow up.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
We're not giving them .
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We're not giving them .
Okay, this is real, this isfiction, and Dr Mark McDonald,
who is a wonderful pediatricpsychiatrist, who's been very
outspoken about what's happeningacross our country, said it
very clearly one time when I wasspeaking with him.
He said look, you know, yourchild runs around when they're
little and their imaginationsare great.
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That's wonderful.
That's how they grow.
They're flapping their wings,they're a bird, they're flying
on the lawn as they're runningaround, but now they've climbed
up onto the roof.
Well, you don't stand there andsay, way to go, jump off the
roof, you can fly.
You're a bird.
Jump off the roof, you can fly,you're a bird.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
You can identify as a bird.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
You say.
You say, billy, get the heckdown here right now.
You're not a bird, you need toget on the ground and you don't
let them jump from that secondstory building.
Right?
We are letting our nation'schildren jump from a second
story building by, by teachingthem all of this.
This crazy and it is and whereit's become very confusing for
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people is is that so manyAmericans and I'm one of them,
I'm sure you are too none of uswant to be unkind to that rare
child who is truly transgender,or that rare child who, you know
, has different ideas about whothey are growing up.
Okay, but there's a differencebetween being kind and
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understanding to a child thathas a rare difference in the way
they're being, you know,they're perceiving themselves,
and there's a difference betweenthat and actively promoting it
in the young years and that'swhat we're doing right now.
They are being indoctrinatedinto this and I will tell you
that when I practiced inWashington State this is
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horrifying to me still I hadchildren as young as three and
four years of age being broughtto my office by their parents
and their parents telling methat they were gender
transitioning that three andfour-year-old child.
But don't worry, dr Moon, theytold me, and they would name the
name of the child.
So-and-so has made up their ownmind.
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Oh, this is a three-year-old,no, or a four-year-old, no.
I'm sorry, but we all know,even seven or eight-year-olds,
I'll be doing a physical examand all of a sudden, the seven
or eight-year-old startssquawking at me and has turned
into an imaginary flamingo.
Okay, I don't like.
That's great that they have animagination, but they're still
back and forth between realityand the truth and that's how
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vivid their imaginations are.
That's great, that's normal.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It is not normal for a parent to be telling a three
and a four-year-old that theyare something that they are not
and not being in that positionas a parent of a child like that
or a young adult like that.
We have some people that aroundus here in the city that would
that we know.
And she used that same analogyof her little boy trying to be a
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girl at the three and four yearold age and and everybody you
know, and even cps, wouldn'tstep in and say you know, this
is abuse.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
It's really difficult for me to witness this and for
all of us to see this and tothink anything but that it's
abusive.
Yes, how can it be anything butabuse, right?
If that same parent, if thatsame parent brought their child
to an office, to apediatrician's office, and said
to the pediatrician this is myfour-year-old son, billy.
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I put a collar on him everynight, he wears a leash, we make
him bark like a dog and he eatsfood from a dog dish.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
We would call.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Child Protective Services okay, and yet when a
child says they're a furry inIllinois, the school pulls out
litter boxes for them and letsthem pee in the litter box.
This has become so insane thatone has to question where the
adults are, and not just theadults in that child's family,
but every adult in thatcommunity and in our nation,
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because this has got to stop.
This is ruining, this isdestroying the mental health of
our nation's children.
And so if you bring athree-year-old to me and you're
telling that three-year-old thatthey're not a girl this is a
three-year-old girl comes intomy office and that parent is
telling that three-year-old thatthey're not a girl, that
they're a boy.
They've given them a boy name,they refer to this child with he
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, him pronouns, no-transcript.
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And the surgeries that are beingperformed on these young people
are catastrophic.
You are turning them in topatients who will receive
hormones and medications for therest of their life for a
condition that theyself-diagnosed or that they were
potentially raised to believethey had by people in their
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environment.
You're turning them into apatient for the rest of their
life with cross-sex hormones andwith puberty blockers, with
other medications, and then, ifyou perform surgery on them.
You're not putting that tissueback when they're an adult and
they say okay, I want my penisback.
That penis is not miraculouslygoing to reappear.
You have removed a perfectlyhealthy body part for absolutely
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no reason.
I don't understand how we'vegone down this road, other than
that it is simply unbelievableand purely evil to have done
that to a child.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
And the answer here is well, I don't know if it's
the answer.
Let me rephrase that.
One of the things I see is toomany people aren't saying no
Participation trophies.
There's a team of 15 kids,everybody gets a trophy,
everybody wins.
You know, losing buildscharacter, yeah, yeah.
And when the parents don't havecharacter, the kids aren't
(45:19):
going to have character.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, so yeah, we yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
No, go ahead, Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
No, I just was thinking how, you know, when we
I remember playing as a child wejust had, you know, we just had
the street.
We just went out and played inthe street.
Now I realize not everyonelives in an area where maybe
it's safe to go play in theirstreet, but let them have free
play, let them have it, usetheir imagination.
They can take a box and somemarkers and turn it into all
(45:47):
sorts of things.
A box that the dishwasher camein can become, you know, it can
become a spacecraft to take youto outer space.
It can become a car that youdrive and you go down to, you
drive it to Hawaii across theocean.
It's an amphibious vehicle.
You could do so many thingswith your box and your markers.
And instead we're teaching ourchildren to be fearful.
(46:09):
We are teaching them thatfantasy equals reality.
We are teaching them there is nosuch thing as no, and one of
the worst things we're doing iswe're putting these weapons into
their hands at very young ages.
By weapons I mean the cellphones, the gadgets, the
electronics.
I travel our country now and Isee kids in clinics and in the
(46:35):
hospital settings.
I see kids sort of in differentlocations.
I still see a lot of healthychildren in our country, but I
see them primarily in ruralareas, where they're, and it's
just really amazing to me.
I walk into the exam room andthey actually look me in the eye
and they say hello.
And I actually caught onereading a book the other day.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
He didn't have a gadget in his hands, but he had
a book.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I hadn't seen a kid reading a book in an exam room
for a very long time.
I almost did a double take.
I'm like, wow, this kid'sreading a book, and it was a
good book, it wasn't a piece oftrash.
I could see the title of it andand I said I said what do you
do after school?
And he says, oh, I have choresto do on his family farm.
These kids are healthy.
They have they're, they'retaking part in activities with
(47:20):
their livestock.
They have chores to do.
They don't have a gadgetattached.
You know, help your childrenunderstand that these cell
phones are poison.
They're poison and they canhave very healthy relationships
with their group of friends ifthey all carry a flip phone and
they can get a hold of a parentif they need you.
They can do all the things thatthey want to do with a phone,
(47:44):
but not the things that are badfor them, such as the videos and
just the sheer indoctrination.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
I was one of the parents, one of those guys that
I didn't let my kids have phonesright away.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
They had their licenses and all that stuff,
probably just after they wereable to get a phone.
And I wouldn't buy them one, Isaid no.
But all their buddies, alltheir friends had it.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, good for you.
We you know it was one of thelarger experiments that was done
on our kids because no onereally knew what these gadgets
constantly in the hands of thechild were going to do to them,
and I think we can see veryclearly that the mental health
of this nation's children is notgood.
We've fallen off a cliff with itIf you compare the late 1990s
(48:36):
and the mental health of kidsthen to now, it's very clear we
have a shortage of psychiatrists.
There's continuous talk inWashington state about how to
add more psychiatrists, morepsychiatrists.
My point there to my colleagueswas well sure, we need more
psychiatrists, morepsychiatrists.
My point there to my colleagueswas well sure, we need more
psychiatrists, but we need tocut the pipeline that's creating
(48:57):
this mess in the first place,like who's looking at why this
is happening?
Yes, we need to deal with thefact that it is happening, but
let's figure out how to getthese kids into a healthier
place to begin with.
And you know, you look at asix-year-old and they're just
your average six-year-old stillis so happy and carefree and,
(49:17):
you know, just wonderfullyspirited.
And by the time they get to be16, they're jaded.
They've been watching too muchof this programming where they
tell them how much their life ishorrible, how they shouldn't
have to work.
You know they're feeding them.
Have you watched this children'sprogramming lately?
It's just garbage.
It's just garbage.
I sat down and watched somerecently.
It's horrible, and I even foundan app that was just available.
(49:39):
Someone showed it to me.
It was disgusting.
It was geared towardseight-year-olds and it was an
app that talked about having aon the app.
It had animated characters andit talked about having um, about
the characters having sexualrelations with one another and
like in and in groups, likethree or four of them at once,
and you're supposed to pick whoyour sexual partners would be,
(50:01):
and this was geared towardseight year old children.
This is absolute garbage and itneeds to be shut down.
And that is not.
You know.
People squawk about oh, thatdown.
And that is not.
You know.
People squawk about oh, that'scensorship.
That's like you know, right no,that's.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
That's called parenting.
Yes, that's called parenting.
You're not their friend, you'retheir parent and I want them to
say that, first of all, we loveyou, your mom, and I love you,
we, we are going to guide youand after that we will be
friends.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
But when you become an adult, we'll become friends,
but when you're a child, I yourparent, and that's the way it is
and we've lost that.
We've lost that in our country.
I see kids in practice as crazyas this sounds, I see four and
five-year-olds fairly often inclinic who are not fully potty
trained and these areneurologically normal children,
(50:51):
you know, typically developingchildren.
They're not children who youknow have neurological
challenges or things like thatwhere they might not be able to
toilet train, but these areneurologically typically
developing children who are nottoilet trained and some of them
I've met.
They literally will changetheir own pull-ups at some point
.
But they don't really care aboutgoing to the bathroom because
(51:14):
they're just really used tositting in it.
And the first time I sawchildren like this I thought
what in the world?
And then I just thought more ofthem.
You know, I had a pediatriciancolleague the other day tell me
that she left general pediatricpractice because she couldn't
take it any longer because thejust the behavioral challenges
that were coming in, one afteranother.
(51:35):
She said this is, this is stuffthat we never used to see.
It's because they're not beingparented.
I had a number of parents bringchildren to me because they had
missed over a month of school,like you know, 10, 11, 12 year
olds and I.
Well, why have they missed somuch school?
Because because he's sick.
And I said well, surely you'vebrought him into our office, and
(51:58):
if he's been sick for over amonth, you've been in here
because we would want to know ifthere's a fever for over, you
know, five to seven days.
Oh no, he hasn't had a fever,he's just really fatigued.
And so I'm taking a history andthe child goes to bed at 9
o'clock at night.
But I'm like well, what time doyou go to sleep?
Oh, about 4 or 5 in the morning.
These kids are playing videogames all night and the parent
(52:20):
knows, but then doesn't takethem to school the next day and
writes in an excuse.
And now the school's?
I mean, where is the parentingwe?
need parenting back in ournation.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Can't blame the kids.
You've got to blame the parents.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
But how did we get here?
Speaker 1 (52:35):
How did we get here?
How do we?
Speaker 2 (52:36):
fix this, because this is my next segue.
How do we fix this and how didwe get here?
How do you just say look peoplewake up, get your head out of
your butt.
Pay attention to what's reallyright.
Tell me your thought.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
I but pay attention to what's really right.
Tell me your thought.
I think we got here by turninginto a very fearful nation and
we became very fearful of sayinganything to anybody else and
very intolerant also oflistening to other people.
Right, like we've had, like I'msure you've seen this this
crazy, almost Civil War-likebehavior within families where
people quit talking to theirgrandparents, where they quit
(53:13):
talking to their aunts or uncles, usually over politics, but
then but it, you know it, it'sso sad, and so they lose that
support system that they wouldhave had, you know, the
grandmother who would havehelped them raise the child and
shown them how, how to do that.
We've lost a lot of our support,our community support yeah
there's so many reasons for it,let me let's talk for a minute,
(53:36):
though, about what we can do,and I think this is this is the
part where I feel like there isso much that the listener can do
okay and because I know, as alistener, people, people sitting
there are probably thinking,okay, well, this communism,
slash Marxism, globalism,whatever you call it, ism, is
something I can't really fix,not individually, like none of
(54:00):
us can fix any of thisindividually, but together we
all can, and that is by notcomplying with the crazy and by
staying sane and logical for thechildren around you.
So please, like whatever you'redoing right now, many of you
have raised your own kids.
Many of you know exactly how totake care of kids and how to
give them a sane and rationalenvironment to be in childhood.
(54:24):
Find a child I mean I'm notsaying to do anything illegal,
but find a child in your familyor in your neighborhood or in
your community, through churchor through somewhere, and be a
meaningful influence on thatchild's life.
Help them.
Help them understand that whatthey're hearing at school, if
they attend these schools thatare indoctrinating them.
Help them.
(54:45):
You know that's another topic.
I right now feel like the kidsneed to come out of those places
, out of those schools, and betaught in an environment where
it's not crazy but be that saneinfluence on a child's life.
We can all do that and continueto push and speak for freedom,
free speech.
This young generation right nowis being taught that it's okay
(55:10):
to censor people, that it's okayto quiet other people's voices,
and they need to hear from youthat it's not okay that our
nation is built on many, manywonderful foundations, but one
of those is free speech andfreedom and that we need to
respect people's differingopinions.
We need to listen to them andwe need to not just shut them
(55:33):
down.
I think in part, we all becameintolerant of other people's
differing opinions because ofsocial media.
They put that button in therewhere you could silence people,
right what's?
it called on Facebook, where youjust push a button and you
block them.
I didn't ever do.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Facebook.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Unfollow, unfollow, unfollow or block something.
Oh, they said something Ididn't like.
I'm going to unfollow them.
No, teach these children.
Teach these children that it'sgreat to hear different opinions
.
That's how you grow, that's howyour mind grows.
That's how you develop.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
It's great to hear different opinions.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
Someone may say something totally out there, but
just say tell me more, why doyou feel that way?
And have a conversation aboutit.
And maybe you'll learnsomething.
You may not decide that youagree with them I certainly
wouldn't agree with a lot ofwhat's out there right now but
I'm interested in hearing aboutwhy people feel that way, and
sometimes, when they hear yourperspective, they'll change
(56:28):
their mind a little bit too.
That's how we all have thatdialogue, so please be an
influence in a child's life.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
And let's not weaponize it.
Whether you're on the left orright, or way left or way right,
don't weaponize that.
These kids, they need tounderstand that.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
It's okay to disagree .
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yeah, it is okay to disagree and, unfortunately and
that's something we didn't havetime to talk about really today
but that's part of what I'mreally alarmed about when it
comes to our medical schools,because these young people, you
know, a few years pass and allof a sudden, in the blink of an
(57:09):
eye, that high schooler is now amedical student, they're about
to become one of your futuredoctors and they are just as
intolerant increasingly inmedical schools now and in law
schools as we would imagine theywould be raised in this kind of
a climate.
So we're seeing students be veryintolerant of differing
perspectives and differing ideasand being able to tolerate that
.
And unfortunately, thosestudents are just a few years
(57:31):
from becoming your physician,and so we have a really huge
problem right now in terms ofour colleges and in terms of our
graduate schools medical school, law school, other doctoral
programs.
These students are not verytolerant and, yeah, we've got a
lot of problems that thiscountry will have to face as a
(57:51):
result of that coming, coming incoming years.
But, um, what we need to helpthese children find a better
foundation and and not everydoctor is going to be a doctor
house md yeah remember the tvshow doctor house yeah,
brilliant doctor, zero bedsidemanner.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, unfortunately, we couldtalk about medical education for
(58:15):
a whole hour.
We really have a lot ofproblems.
We have some really good peoplestill in medical school.
I don't want you to leavethinking that we don't, but we
have a lot of problems in ourmedical education right now,
first and foremost being thisloss of free speech across the
country.
It's not just the one medicalschool that came after me, but
(58:37):
it's all of them.
There's a problem with ourability to allow our students
and to teach them thatcritically thinking and speaking
out is okay.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Maybe a different episode for that one, huh.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
Yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah for sure.
With that I do.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
I do want to respect your time.
We are 33 minutes, 30, 34minutes into the second segment
and some parting words for thesepeople.
I know you just said anexcellent closeout about the,
about the kids yeah, I, I, we,really, I really the direction
we headed.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
We are headed in a direction that is extremely
dangerous and I believe thatmany people see what's happening
, but I'm alarmed that there arestill many in our nation that
do not see the danger that thiscountry is in right now.
My perspective from WashingtonState I saw it from a few
(59:33):
different angles, and we areheaded off a cliff as a country.
We have to turn this around,and the way that happens is by
not complying with tyranny, withridiculous asks of you, by
speaking out about your concernsabout what is happening, about
not being politically correctand not worrying about being
(59:53):
politically correct because wehave been too kind.
We are trying so hard to avoidany sort of confrontation with
people that we have let themjust walk right over us and it
is time to be very, very loud,and so I want to be very clear.
I know your listeners are fromall over the world.
This is not just for Americans,but it is time for this world
(01:00:14):
to be very, very loud about whatis happening.
We will not tolerate peopletrampling on our freedom.
We will not tolerate peopletrampling on our ability to
speak and to think and to takecare of our children and to take
(01:00:34):
care of our children.
We are literally fighting forthe future of this next
generation of children and forour grandchildren.
We literally are, and every daythere are new encroachments on
our ability to take part insociety as free human beings,
and we cannot let this continue.
So please continue to speak out.
I'm not obviously notadvocating for anything that
would be violent or physical,but we do this with our words
(01:00:55):
and we do not tolerate this anylonger.
We do not tolerate.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Well, not physical yet we have had civil wars in
this country, and sometimes youknow what they don't listen to.
Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
One method Well, yeah , are we going to eventually end
up in a civil war?
It's very likely and verypossible, but right now I can't
advocate for that Not at all mypush right now for everybody is,
of course not, but my push isfor everyone to stop being so
politically correct that you sithere and you let them trample
over your children's future andover the future of your
(01:01:25):
grandchildren, because there isno doubt in my mind they're
coming for your, your freedom,and they already have shown that
and they've already come for it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Why don't you hit that website again that you were
talking about earlier?
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Yeah, so please look at silentmajorityfoundationorg.
Silentmajorityfoundationorg I'mDr Moon M-O-O-N.
Read about what happened Again.
It's not about me.
I have lost income in this.
I at me.
I have lost income in this.
I may lose my entire career atsome point as they come after us
.
That is something I canabsolutely live with.
(01:01:59):
If that happens, I will beheartbroken.
It will not be a good thing,but I can live without my career
.
What I cannot live without isour freedom.
We all have to be free people,and this cannot continue, and so
we all need to speak out and dowhatever it takes.
If you lose a friend, so youlost a friend that wasn't a true
friend.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
You need to speak out , yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I sound like Pink Floyd in that one, don't I?
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I know it's an interesting world right now, for
sure.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
It is, but I thank you for coming on the show and
telling us your all.
We'll have another episode ifit works for you.
And let's talk about themedical system.
I was expecting today more ofanother COVID show and the wife
she goes.
You beat COVID to death.
I said I get it, but I want todo something different,
(01:02:49):
something that you had personalintel very intimate with that,
and you hit this ball right outof that park.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Well, thank you.
Yeah, when you see it, you haveto make a lot of noise about it
, and so I've done nothing butcontinue to speak out the last
several years about how alarmedI am with the direction that
we're headed in, and Iappreciate your platform to be
able to speak.
I'm happy to come on and I havemuch more to share about what I
see happening in the healthcaresystem just in general, and
(01:03:19):
especially how it pertains tothe training of this next
generation of physicians.
I've been involved inhealthcare medical education
training for my whole career andwe are headed in a direction
that really alarms me for for alot of reasons, but we can talk
about that more if you wouldlike to have me on sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I would, if you would , I would love that.
Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I would be happy to, yeah, happy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
And you mentioned Dr Mark McDonald.
Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Yes, uh-huh.
Yeah, do you have access to him?
Absolutely, I will plug you inwith him.
Yeah, I'll send it to you now.
He would love to come on yourshow.
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Because he sounds like a very interesting fellow.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Oh, he's wonderful, Dr Mark McDonald.
We interviewed him.
Dr Jim Thorpe and I co-host ashow called Two Docs, just T-W-O
and D-O-C-S on Worldviewweekend platform and we
interviewed Dr Mark McDonald forthat Not too long ago.
I'll I'll text you his contactinformation now.
I'm sure he won't mind.
Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Well, just reach out and say you know a guy, who
knows a guy who robbed a guyonce.
Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, no, I'll ask him, but.
I'll ask him, but, but he wouldlove to come on insight into
what's happening.
He's a child psychiatrist.
This is what he's done for hiswhole career, right?
My role as a pediatrician.
I've watched these kids grow upand they're now young adults
and I'm seeing yeah, we didn'ttalk about the COVID shot once
tonight, which is great, becauseI think it has been talked
(01:04:42):
about a lot, but it stilldeserves some discussion because
of the way in which it stillsits on our childhood basket.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
We talked about the side effects of COVID.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, but this trajectory that we're on right
now is not.
We're not going to survive thisas a nation if we don't turn
this around.
I'm being very blunt about it.
We're headed in a terribledirection.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Candor is good, we need that.
Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah, so anyway, thank you for having me on, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Dr Moon, thank you again for taking your evening
and I'll tell you what thisdrops on Sunday.
They're automatically dropped.
We'll put some flyers in there,some brochures, you know that
type of production stuff, and Idon't think.
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I have much editing to do.
Thank you, Wonderful Well.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
I appreciate it.
Thank you to the listener.
Thank you all for listening andfor your battle in support of
freedom.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
And that's kind of a wrap for HUTCAST.
We're going to answer someemails here.
Thanks again for listening theguys in again.
Australia, we're plugging in,and I appreciate that.
The Eastern Bloc yeah, I getyou, I hear you.
Maybe this will spread somelight on what you're doing over
there.
The Ukraine guys hey, I'm sorrythey're in that spot, but I get
(01:05:53):
it.
I mean, what do you do?
You're in the middle of a wartype of thing.
So for those people that wrotein on that, again thanks
everybody for being part of theshow.
Huttcast is signing off anduntil next time and that's a
(01:06:14):
wrap for HuttCast.
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