July 26, 2025 • 56 mins
What would you do if doctors told you cancer had invaded your entire body and conventional medicine had nothing more to offer? In 1974, Rick Hill faced this devastating reality at the Mayo Clinic after eight hours of exploratory surgery revealed cancer throughout his lymphatic system. Weighing just 120 pounds and on morphine for pain, Rick made a decision that defied medical orthodoxy – he left the prestigious institution for a clinic in Tijuana offering treatments derived from apricot kernels.
Rick's remarkable journey unfolds as he shares the three-component treatment that transformed his terminal prognosis: B17 (derived from apricot kernels), enzyme therapy to strip away the protein coating that shields cancer cells from immune detection, and pangamic acid (B15) to oxygenate his system. The results were astonishing – within three weeks, his color returned, pain subsided, and he could stand upright again. This wasn't temporary remission but the beginning of fifty cancer-free years.
Beyond the medical aspects, Rick reveals the profound life lessons from facing mortality at such a young age. He emphasizes that true healing required more than just the initial treatment – it demanded a lifetime commitment to maintaining his health through continued supplementation and dietary vigilance. This experience ignited something powerful within him, propelling the once-stuttering young man to become a professional speaker, successful author, and co-inventor of an air purifier that sold 50 million units.
Rick's passionate advocacy for medical freedom and alternative options comes not from anti-establishment sentiment but from lived experience. He offers a thought-provoking challenge: what if we focused on prevention rather than treatment? What if connecting the dots between our daily choices and future health outcomes could help us avoid serious illness altogether?
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Welcome to the podcast today72625.
We'll drop this episodetomorrow at about 7 in the
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We have a very special guesttoday, and this guest is an
author, a speaker, a survivor,rick Hill.
Rick, are you there?
I'm here, thank you, lookingforward to this okay, rick, we
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All right, welcome back toHUTCAST.
So on the show.
If you've listened to me forany amount of time.
We have these special guests,these guests that come in and
they rock your world.
They tell you things that youdidn't know and you probably
(03:37):
should know.
Everybody knows that I'm a big2A Amendment supporter, freedom
of speech guy, but I'm also aCommon Sense guy and we have
here again Rick Hill, the author, speaker or survivor of things.
He's going to tell us that weshould probably be paying
attention to.
Rick, can you hear me?
(03:57):
Okay, I can, it's great, thankyou.
So first of all, there's somethings that we want to know
about you.
Where'd you come from?
What did you do?
How did you do?
I mean, how did you make yourmoney?
The whole thing's in life.
Let's get that away at ourfirst question who are you?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm a guy that went to seminary.
I was a principal at aChristian day school in New Ulm,
minnesota.
I had my life all mapped out,newly married about the year, my
wife was just expecting ourfirst child and you know, hey
rewards.
And then I got a tumor, oh boy,and I went to the doctor.
(04:43):
They shipped me around todifferent guys.
One guy was a little sharperthan the others and he said look
, I've seen this before.
I think you need to go to theMayo Clinic.
You're not far from me, it's atwo or three hour drive and I'll
make an appointment and you go,da, da, da.
So I show up, they run methrough the ring and then the
(05:05):
surgeon comes in and says weneed to do some surgery.
It's going to be extensivebecause it's exploratory.
They didn't have scans backthen.
1974, okay, 50 years ago, wow,yeah.
So to give you the cliff notes,I I did eight and a half hours.
They did eight and a half hoursof surgery.
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They operated even on my neck.
They found cancer.
They operated on my feet, theyfound cancer.
And after this lengthy surgerythey just closed me all up and
when I came to they said boy,it's everywhere, it's in your
lymphatic system and it's goingto be hard to stop.
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But we've got some chemo.
We'll take a run at it.
You know, not soundingaltogether positive, and so I
had made up my mind that inabout three days I was going to
start chemo and probably lose mylife quickly.
But here's where the story getsinteresting.
This is that opening incidentthat changes the rest of your
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life.
So you know we're going to jumpinto act two pretty quickly.
I got a letter with a 10-centstamp on it and I opened it up.
It was from a guy I knew he wasa Baptist pastor, but he was
also a John Bircher.
I don't know if you've beenaround long enough to know who
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that is, but it's kind of—goahead.
I don't know the name, no, Okay,it's kind of like MAGA on
steroids.
All right, very conservativegroup and he used to come to our
college and speak in chapel andhe would do the first 20
minutes on politics, which wasnot like our association and me
(06:59):
and the other Lumen ones wouldsit with our arms folded rolling
our eyes.
Okay, okay, we're gonna get outof the un.
Gotcha.
Now tell us something that wecame to hear.
You know, right, this guy wroteme and and it just said and I'm
not, this is all that was onthe paper.
If you want to live commayou're going to have to leave
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the Mayo Clinic.
John, wow, I know, and I lookedaround the room to see.
Did anybody else read this?
And this is crazy, tom.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So you're in shock.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I called him.
I had his number and I calledhim up and I said John, I'm at
the Citadel of Modern Medicineand I've got good insurance.
What are you thinking?
He said well, I agree with that, it is a citadel of modern
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medicine, but it's not medicineyou need at this point.
I said why not?
He said well, how are you doing?
I said you've been talking tosomebody I know.
And yeah, I said what do youwant me to do, john?
Come on, cut to the chase.
He said well, you're going tohave to leave the Mayo Clinic.
You're going to fly into SanDiego.
I thought, okay, nothing wrongwith that.
But then, and he said, yeah,then you're going to get on a
(08:16):
bus and go to Tijuana.
I said my whole family's here.
They flew in to say goodbye,see who gets the gold watch.
And I said you want me to tellthem.
Oh, wait a minute, wait aminute.
What are they going to give mein Tijuana that I can't get here
?
He says are you sitting down?
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I thought, oh, no, this getsworse by the second.
I said yeah, john, I'm seated.
I can hardly stand up after thesurgery I've had.
He says it's a derivative ofapricots.
I said so tonight after dinner,you want me to address my
family and say I'm leaving theMayo Clinic, going to Tijuana,
(09:04):
and they're going to give meapricots I suppose this is an IV
.
He said, yeah.
I said, john, you know, let mehang up and call the
chemotherapist.
So I hung up, I called the MayoClinic.
He came to the phone because Iwas, you know, a guy that was
nearly dead, weighed 120 pounds.
(09:26):
Oh boy, and I'm 5'9" Okay.
So I got him on the phone and Isaid here's what's going on.
I told him the story and Iexpected he'd cuss me out.
Tell me how stupid I am,because my family did.
And he says well, it is warm inTijuana this time of year, I
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know.
And I looked at him, my mouthdropped open and I said message
delivered, I appreciate yourhonesty, thank you.
And I got up and left the office, went home, told my family what
he said, went around the roomand everybody my brother, sam
Hill, if you can believe that hesays to me Ricky, if you go to
(10:11):
Tijuana, I will never speak toyou again.
And I said, sam, I don't thinkyou're going to have a choice.
And I got to my father-in-lawand he stood up from the table
and said I like it, I will takehim down there and I will put
(10:31):
money into this.
Well, game over.
I pointed at him, I said deal.
And two days later, tim, weleft for Tijuana and I went down
the rabbit hole Because I grewup a Detroit greaser with the
Fonzie hair, the leather jacket,the whole thing, and there was
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no health food store near me.
We didn't have manicured golfcourses and clay tennis courts
where I lived, nothing.
It was piggly-wiggly type stuff, sure, sure.
So I didn't know what to do.
We went to a health food storewhen we first got down there to
try and find something we couldeat, because they had sent me a
(11:20):
diet sheet and I've never beenin a place like this.
Now, this is the 70s, not, youknow, not like what you have
here today right right so I um,I don't know what's clinging
here, but I hope that's itthat's all right no worries he.
Um, we go in this place whereabby shanker music playing in
(11:40):
the background.
I immediately see I'm the onlyone in the building wearing any
underwear and people arefiltering stuff out of barrels
and I just thought I don't blend.
I don't know what I've donehere and I would ask your
listeners do you think you haveto blend to get success?
(12:02):
Do you have to believe ahead oftime to get success?
I hear that all the time.
My wife got on the airplanewith me.
Can you imagine they let peopledo that?
Then she told the lady at thecounter my husband's dying, he's
going that can I get on theplane and just say goodbye?
And she got on.
We're both crying.
(12:22):
I looked at her and I saidsweetie pie, I think it's a
one-way ticket.
I didn't I, I apricots right.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So my question is at what point?
At what point of this wholedeal was the moment you knew
that you were going to leave?
Is it because of the money, oris it because you, you had no
light on this side of the tunnel?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I call it road signs, you know.
The first one was the baptistpastor.
Okay, yeah, you know, here's aguy that had never spoken a word
to me in my life, writes me apersonal note and sticks his
nose in my business.
So I thought to myself that'snot only gutsy, he must really
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believe in this.
To tell a dying man you've gotto leave your only hope.
So I thought I've got to atleast check this out.
Second road sign thechemotherapist right it's warm
in tijuana.
What is that?
You know?
What he was saying was reallyrick between us girls.
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We can't help you.
I don't think tijuana is goingto help you.
But if you want to lay on thebeach and sip tequila, okay,
fine, you know, do what you wantto do at this point of the of
the problem, okay.
And then the third one was myfather-in-law who, a very
successful person, had a big uhcontracting company, heavy
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equipment, and he said I'm, Iwant you to do this.
He said if you stay at the MayoClinic, you're toast.
I don't know where he maybe hewas a John Birch guy, I don't
know.
But those were three thingsthat sort of pushed me screaming
through the threshold of faith.
But I hear these people say inorder for something to work, you
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gotta believe in your heart.
That it's.
You know.
And you're in a seminar and itgoes on and on.
And you buy their book.
And you know, I don't think so.
I think if there are road signsthat you see, and it's logical
and it's based on some research,and it is.
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There was a Dr John Beard in the20s that wrote extensively on
this.
He called it the trophoblastictheory of cancer.
He got it because of workingwith pregnant women.
They came into my hospital roomat the Mayo Clinic and said got
some interesting news for you.
I said go.
He said you're pregnant, I said, and this was before woke.
(15:01):
I said I don't think so and hesaid no, your urine checks out
to have a lot of HTC and a humanchorionic kinetotropin and all
pregnant women have excess ofthat and some cancers produce
that the germ cell ones like youhave.
And I said, okay, well, I don'twant to deliver a baby, so
(15:26):
let's get this done, and and and.
So there was that informationthat there was actually a guy
properly degreed who thoughtthis was a good idea and then,
following him in about the 1940swas the Dr Ernst Krebs, and his
research was really good aboutB17.
(15:47):
People think about B17 withthis more than they think about
the enzymes.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, you're jumping to my next question now, hold on
.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You were going through this verbatim as of my
questions.
Okay, were you ever afraid ofthe risks involved in rejecting
the traditional chemotherapyradiation, especially given your
severity of diagnosis?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I think the chemotherapist tipped his hat
and he said if you stay hereit's not going to matter, sure.
And so where would I rather die?
I'd rather die, I'd rather godown fighting than just to take
this guy's uh secret and andsecretly believe it too.
(16:35):
I just thought, if there's achance and the next little bit
I've got to say will finalizethat in your mind.
Gotcha, you got anotherquestion, or you want me to jump
in?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, now it segues into my number three questions.
How did the lateral vitamin B17and the nutrition play a role
in your recovery?
Because it sounds like you wereready to go there.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, I was in bad shape.
I was 120 pounds.
I was on morphine when I leftthe Mayo Clinic.
I'm seeing pink elephants, manRight.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You can smell color.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Holy cow, I mean, I'm like humming all the time.
And so when I got down there,there they gave me a diet sheet
that was real simple 80 raworganic fruits and vegetables
boring as all get out, but butreally good.
(17:34):
And then they wanted me todetox and so I had my first
appointment.
That day I met Dr Contreras,the father.
That's passed now, but his sontook the clinic and he puts me
on his bench, opens my shirt andstarts frowning and I said, doc
, I'm fuzzy on a frown heretoday.
(17:54):
Did I make a mistake?
Should I go back home?
What do you think?
Come on, it's Rick.
He says none of this had tohappen, rick, none of it, if
somehow we could have got to youtwo months ago.
None of this surgery, none ofthis painkiller, nothing.
And he said but that leads meto a good question.
Because you're really sick, youare, you're in bad shape.
(18:16):
Good question because you'rereally sick, you are, you're,
you're in bad shape.
So will you do what we ask youto do, without question?
I said well, doc, I don't knowman, I you know what, if part of
it is hanging from my toenailsor something.
I don't know what you're goingto open question.
And he says no, I'm an MD.
I worked in Boston at thechildren's hospital.
I don't have a shade treeoperation.
(18:37):
We're the real deal.
But this is participatorymedicine we do here.
I can't succeed without yourhelp.
This isn't something we do toyou, this is something we do
with you.
If you don't help me, if youdon't help me, we'll fail you
and me.
(18:57):
So what's it going to be?
And I thought, wow, I got nosuch speech at the Mayo Clinic.
It was roll your sleeve up,we're giving it to you.
And you know, right after allthat surgery, they gave me white
bread, jello and 7-Up.
So if the cancer wasn't goingto kill me, their diet would.
(19:20):
So I just thought, yes, I'll doit, I'm in All in, 100%, let's
go.
And so the next day the nursecomes in.
She says we need to start yourdetox.
And I said how do we do that?
She said, well, you're going toget a three gram injection of
B17, which is a derivative ofthe apricot kernel, which is
(19:42):
high in nitrilicide and even hascyanide in it, but not at
levels.
Oh, the FDA said.
Oh, it'll kill you.
I took six grams in one day.
I had no negative side effectsat all, nothing Didn't even get
nauseated.
I had no negative side effectsat all, nothing Didn't even get
nauseated.
And so she gave me that.
And then she gave me theenzymes that I was really.
(20:05):
I'd read Dr Beard's work.
Cancer cells are coated in aprotein and that enzyme
dissolves the protein.
So when your immune systemfloats by, they go look over
there, get them.
Otherwise, with that protein onthere, they don't see it.
I thought that was interestingand that's based on how a mother
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stops that rapid cell division.
In the second month ofgestation.
Her pancreas produceschymotrypsin, lots of it.
The mother lives, the babylives.
It's a happy ending.
But now, as an adult, I'm notattached to an umbilical cord,
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there's nobody giving me theseenzymes.
So I went someplace where theyknew that and they gave them to
me and I'm still taking themeven today, but a little bit
right.
And so she gives me that.
And then she's holding a hoseand she says um, I said what's
that for?
She says have you ever changedthe water in the radiator of
(21:12):
your car?
And I thought that was a sillyquestion.
I said well, yeah.
She said yeah.
She said how'd you do it.
And I said I told her and shesays exactly.
And I said where does the hosego?
And even today I cringe when Ithink about the answer.
But they wanted to teach me howto do colonics Now, not a day at
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the beach, yeah right.
Okay, tim, this is not what you.
Hey, it's Saturday, let's goget a colonic.
No, but they don't hurt andthey're not really that
embarrassing.
And and when Elvis died, theysaid he had 40 pounds of
undigested matter in his colon.
He just wasn't going to thebathroom.
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And and you meet people thatsay I go about once a week, I'm
good.
No, you're not.
What does a baby do?
Every time it feeds, it goes.
So they had to retrain my gutand so they gave me the B17.
, they gave me the enzymes andfinally, there's just three
(22:19):
things.
And then they gave me pangamicacid, which is vitamin B15,
which Muhammad Ali used to takebefore a fight, because it
really oxygenates the system.
Cancer is not that crazy aboutoxygen, so that I know it's
simplistic and I I know yourlisteners saying, well, come on,
(22:40):
that's it.
But three weeks I did that,just what I said, for 21 days,
and in that 21 days, tim, mycolor started coming back.
No more pink elephants.
The pain subsided and I couldstand up, straight up and walk
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and I thought this is likesomething out of a cartoon.
No one's going to believe thisNobody.
And even today, to be honestwith you, if I'm on an airplane,
well you know.
Tell me about you, rick.
I think I don't dare.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This flight ain't that long right.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Oh, and they're not going to believe it.
You know they're going to go,okay, thank you.
All right, let me get to mybook.
You know I mean.
Yeah, chapter one Yep, my book,you know, I mean, yeah, it's
chapter one, yep, yep, well,that's that's an incredible
story.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's an incredible story.
I tell you what we are, what?
Uh oh, 21.18 into this firstsegment.
Let me take a break and when wecome back I'd like to talk
about the, the life afterrecovery.
There you go, because, becauseyou finished up my third
question excellent, with the B17.
And then, yeah, let's go intothat.
So stand by for Hot Cast.
(24:03):
We're going to take a quickbreak and come back and let's
hear the rest of this, so standby.
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Welcome back to Headcast.
Rick Hill is with us.
We have left the last segmentbefore our break and we're going
to talk about a whole differentmeaning, a different avenue.
It's called Life After Recovery.
After beating cancer, you wenton to achieve remarkable things,
rick.
Recovery after beating cancer,you went on to achieve
remarkable things, rick.
You authored a book, you.
(25:01):
You co-invented an air purifieryears which is selling over 50
million.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, we, we got lucky.
I co-patented it and we took itto a great big company and we
sold 50 million.
Our first year or so that thatwas my home run.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
How did your experience with cancer shape
your drive to success?
You know everybody wants toknow how.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
now Whether you knew it or not and I'm inclined to
think you did know it you havehit on the most important part
of this conversation.
Okay, what?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
is that and that?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
is that remission is misunderstood.
I see it all the time onFacebook Cancer people say I'm
cancer free, I got mycertificate.
We're having a remission partythis Saturday, bringing
champagne, chocolate cake.
I dodged that bullet and thenthree months later they're on
(25:56):
Facebook going.
I can't believe what I justheard.
I am full of tumors againBecause when the cancer comes
back, it comes back like a lion.
And if I could give yourlisteners one little piece of
free advice, it's this Make alifetime commitment to this.
The cancer wants to live likeevery other cell in your body
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and it's going to hunt, it'sgoing to change, it's going to,
it's going to do what it can do.
But if you keep, I take all thethings that I took, but much
less of it.
Now, way Miller, like I'll onlytake this call will be recorded
I'll only take, uh, you know,one Laetrile tablet.
(26:42):
I'll eat some of the apricotseeds, maybe six, and I take the
enzymes at 10 and 2 every day,you know, because I'm not trying
to digest food with that, I'mtrying to get rid of that
protein coating.
And then I take some B15, but alittle bit.
I mean a three-month supply islike 40 bucks, I mean it's
nothing.
But people won't do that.
(27:04):
They want to go back to thelife they were living when they
got sick.
They want to go drinking Fridaynight, they want to eat crap
food and when they do thatthey're kicking the door open
for round two.
But I guarantee you round twois worse than round one.
So I believed that when I leftTijuana and I started shopping
(27:33):
in the health food stores I hadto drive 40 miles to get to one.
But I made the changes in mylife.
Get the one, but I made thechanges in my life and I felt
good and I looked okay and thewhole thing and that kind of
gave me that impetus to try newthings.
(27:54):
I was not voted the most likelyto succeed.
As a kid I stuttered badly.
Honestly, I never got above a Cminus or a D my entire
post-college career pre-collegecareer and I was not the guy
you'd pick out of the line.
You'd say, oh, he's going tomake it, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
But this experience taught methat I can learn something new,
(28:21):
get good at it and succeedwildly.
And me, who stuttered for mostof his life?
I became a professional speaker, president of the Florida
Speakers Association.
People now would pay money tohear me talk.
Nice.
And this one little thing ledto the next and I tried new
(28:44):
things with the confidence thatI'm lazarus.
I walked out of the tombtotally well and I might be able
to do that a few more timesduring my life.
So it it was preparatory.
Without a doubt, I'm probably abetter guy because I went
(29:05):
through it, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, you've been a strong advocate.
What?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You've been a strong advocate for transparency and
choice in cancer treatments.
What changes would you like tosee the medical community
regarding the alternativetherapies?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, that's exactly where it's got to start.
Bobby Kennedy.
The first time he ran acrossthat stage at the RNC convention
, I turned to my lady and saidthat's a Kennedy.
Like what's going on in thisworld.
Yeah, and he's got two goodthings.
(29:44):
He says he wants freedom ofchoice.
He doesn't have to agree withme, he doesn't have to sign the
thing that says laetrile reallyworks.
I just I had to smugglelaetrile out of tijuana.
I had an underwear full oftablets when I walked across
that border and I'm not asmuggler, I'm a grandpa that,
(30:08):
you think, probably barbecues alot if you saw me.
Okay, yeah, I mean I just don'tlook like a tough guy.
But Bobby said that he wouldwork on freedom of choice.
And then the second thing is hewants to revamp medical school
and have organic nutrition to bea mainstay in the curriculum.
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Doesn't mean they don't dodrugs.
Doesn't mean they don't dosurgery, but they most doctors.
You sit down and you talk tothem.
They are clueless.
I mean they go down to thedrugstore and get some vitamin c
and you don't get sick anymore.
You know it's that kind ofthing, right?
Not a word about your diet.
Not a word about foodcombination combinations,
(30:56):
nothing okay so you, if he doesthat, kudos.
Trump picked right on that one.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Right, but not that I'm a big Obama supporter.
But the only intelligent thingI ever heard of come out of his
mouth was I thought change wouldbe easier Now.
This was on the Jay Leno showand I'm listening to this guy
thinking you know it's not mypick, I mean, but you know I can
ride both sides of the fencehere and he said that and it
(31:26):
rang a bit of truth.
Obama actually rang some truthin my head and I said that makes
a lot of sense because you knowhe's going to come in and
change and you know all thepolitical promises and all that
crap.
Now Trump's only got well hissecond four years 2.0.
Is kennedy going to be aroundlong enough to even enable these
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and to segue?
What was your experience likein the oasis hospital and how
did it differ from traditionalmedical care?
Now, oasis, I suppose, is thesouth of the border one.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
yes, tijuana, right next to the bull ring at the
ocean.
So now you never forget thatwhen you drive down there,
there's a bull ring yeah, theycross the street.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
They don't have any uh planning like they do in the
cities here.
But I get you.
But it's incredible how, howyou would do that.
I mean, is he gonna have enoughtime to make this change d
kennedy?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I agree with him 100 obama on this issue, because I
know this.
This sounds counterintuitive,but I think it was easier for me
to make the changes because thethreat level was high.
The, the guy that struggles,the lady that struggles with
change are the ones that aretrying to lose 15 pounds and get
(32:44):
off of, you know, diabetesmedicine.
They don't think of it as lifethreatening.
Nothing's pressing them againstthe wall, and for me, I was
playing with fire.
Yeah, so I agree that change ishard, and I opened this segment
(33:04):
by saying how many people haveI seen die on Facebook Because
they were unwilling to extendthe change?
Sure, they did it when theywere at a clinic, but they got
home and there was all thosecupcakes in the cupboard and the
Coca-Colas and all that stuff.
And then they bought all thisfood that's grown with gly.
You know the roundup and oh,yeah, yeah the monsanto crew
(33:29):
yeah, oh geez, let's, you know,bring back the gallows.
I'm telling you it's, it'stermination by sophistication
well, but you're getting thatwrong.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Wrong, aren't you?
I mean, that's your life.
How do you change when youchange?
But you had to, you had to hadto or die, right.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
And you know, people come up to me after a seminar
and they say you know, you guysmake me sick.
And I said, oh, I'm sorry, butwhy?
Well, because you act like ifwe ever go to McDonald's, we're
not even going to heaven.
I said I never said that.
I said, and I don't believe it,in fact, I think you're going
to get there quicker.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Try the veal.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
We're here all week.
So you know, yeah, it's hard.
But kudos and hats off to the55-year-old lady or guy that
says I'm going to revamp my lifebecause I want to be here for
my grandkids into my 80s and beable to walk them in the park.
You're not going to get thereby eating what you're eating now
(34:36):
and doing what you're doing now.
You've got to wake up and smellthe coffee organic coffee, I
hope.
But clearly it's change, andboring change.
Can you imagine I did thisstrict diet for five years.
I mean didn't cheat.
(34:56):
Can you imagine, in the fifthyear when I bellied up to the
table and said let's seevegetable salad or fruit salad
and okay, we'll go with fruit?
You know I'd hold my head andI'd say this is for a good cause
and it tastes good.
(35:16):
I'm glad to have it.
But man, you know I want toslice a pizza right.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, he also doesn't understand that the listeners
here this worked for rick.
Your particular situation mightnot work and you need to
explore these options foryourself.
Rick has not given his opinionon what you should do.
He's given his opinion on whatworked for him.
Is that correct, rick?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
that's correct and that's why I threw in a couple
of references to do a littleresearch, you know, so that they
get drug across the thresholdof faith.
Yeah, kicking and screaming.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And books and legacy.
You had a book Too Young to Dieand the Cancer Conundrum.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, too young to die is better, it's funnier,
it's cheaper.
I tell all these stories thatI've told on your show and it's
a story of hope.
It ends with Reepicheep themouse from Chronicles of Narnia.
What people need?
(36:19):
They need a cheerleader thatsays look, I did this, it was 50
years ago.
I'm not guaranteeing anything'sgoing to work, but I am saying
it worked for me and here's aroadmap to it.
It's 100 pages long.
What do you want to do?
Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm sorry, Well, they can get these three things that
I talked about and my book ifthey'll log on to Richardson
Nutritional Store rncstorecom inthe little magnifying glass
research, just type Rick myfirst name and a package will
(37:00):
come up that's discounted andit's good for three months and
they get a free book.
Nice, I can't do more than that.
They're not interested ifthat's not a good idea.
But you even extend anadditional discount for your
listeners if they will typeHUTCAST, like H-U-T-T, cast,
(37:27):
c-a-s-t, and that's generous.
A 10% discount over and abovemy discount is a good deal.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And a caveat to that is PS HUTCAST does not make
anything on this situation.
If, in fact, if you do a HUTbuy and you and they take that
savings and apply it to youraccount, any of that money, if
it goes anywhere, will not go tothis show.
It'll go to a charity of theirchoosing, not mine.
So I want to make that ultraclear, because we're not in this
(37:56):
for the money that's generous,that is generous.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
So yeah, it's a good deal and I believe in all three
of the products that obviouslysave my life and they're not
expensive and they're easy totake.
No more injection.
You know when you want to treatcancer Long before it starts,
before it happens.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
So now you're on my next question.
Yeah, you're like a roadmap.
I got you, man, I got you.
So you're 50 years cancer-freeand someone newly diagnosed with
cancer is going to have thisemotional trauma.
What would you tell them?
When you're feeling sooverwhelmed with this?
(38:38):
What would be your first?
Here's from the gut.
I've lived this.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
It was something I mentioned about a third of the
way through when I said yourlisteners are going to hear
somebody that says, unless youbelieve and I say, do the
research, it'll only take you afew days.
And then follow your gut.
If it sounds good and it soundsbetter than what you're doing
(39:06):
now, or especially if they toldyou that you know your chances
aren't too good, yeah, thenfollow your heart.
But you know, commit, don'tkeep one foot in Egypt and one
foot in Israel.
Don't do that, right?
You know, make up your mindwhere you're going and go and
(39:27):
your friends.
You'll lose friends.
I mean, they call me up and theysay, hey, we're going for shots
and pizza tonight.
Do you want to go?
No, my doctor took me off thatstuff.
Oh yeah, that's right, you wentdown the rabbit hole.
Well, I'm sorry, and my ownfamily.
They disowned me for a periodof time and sometimes you kind
(39:49):
of got to go alone.
But you don't have to gin upand believe something.
You have to just do something,but have it based on real.
You know, make sure there's alittle research behind it or a
lot, and that it worked forother people I'm one of.
I got a lady on my Facebookthat was down there the same
(40:11):
time I was, that had braincancer and it spread to her
spine and she's now in Key WestFlorida getting too much sun
with too many grandkids.
So I'm not your only guy.
There's thousands of people outthere like me.
Uh, that's got good results,but you know what tim?
(40:35):
They don't want to talk aboutit sure that's the way it is.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
They just want to keep it inside.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
They don't want to tell somebody I had cancer, yeah
, I get that?
I do get that, yeah, and theydon't want to bother somebody
else with their problems.
How did they say it?
A friend of mine once said youknow, when you're hearing
something about somebody'smedical problems, you're so glad
that it's there's a not yoursand you're just.
You know that's not thecompassionate way to do this,
but it's.
It's the truth, I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I'm sure I'm human nature.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I'm so glad it's you, not me, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Right.
Well, they should pretendcompassion that they're going to
get this diagnosis and it's aone in two chance.
Now, thank you for turbo cancer.
But the point I'm making isthat they'll start now and buy
the little pack that's calledprevention.
Then they're treating cancer.
(41:38):
That may be future, but now,while there's no bonfire and
that's what's smart that's agood investment.
That's using your noggininstead of well, if I get cancer
, I'll find out where Rick isand I'll call him Right?
No, why wait?
That's my question.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Well, you do know that it's way cheaper to eat
crappy than it's cheaper to eatholistic.
What do you say to those people?
You get a lot of people thatlisten to the show and I don't
know their financial situation.
They could be on a WIC program,they could be on state
assistance, whatever that is,and I can buy a 12-pack of Ding
(42:20):
Dongs cheaper than I can buy aholistic head of lettuce.
You see where I'm going withthat.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yeah, but I think there's a fallacy in that, in
that if you're comparing appleswith apples, figure out what you
paid for that bag of chips andhow much did it weigh and how
much is in it.
Yeah, but I agree, yeah.
(42:49):
And then like, uh, but I agree,I think it's, I think it's, I
think it's abusive that they'llsay, well, we're not going to
put chemicals in this foodyou're buying, so we'll charge
you more.
Right, right, what it didn'tput them in there.
You know, and, and they alwaysand rfK does this all the time
he'll hold up an Americanproduct of, let's say, fruit
Loops.
Then he'll hold up a Europeanbox of Fruit Loops.
(43:12):
He'll say the European box hasfour ingredients, the American
box has 20.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, dissertation on the side of it, yeah, it's huge
.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, and that's what I want to get rid of and I
wholeheartedly agree.
But we're being charged morefor the box without it if there
is one in there in the store,and that's got to change.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Fundamentally wrong, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Now I get it.
If it's products to marketsooner because it's perishable,
sooner you have trucking costs.
I mean the whole chain ofthings.
I get it takes time and time ismoney.
But if you can get to marketcheaper for a non-GMO something,
wouldn't it make sense to dothat instead of sucking in all
(44:00):
these chemicals?
Because in our daily liveswe've talked to a number of
doctors on this show and theywant light therapy, and I've
talked to a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
But you know, sometimes you just got to pump
the brakes and go whoa, why am Ipaying more for less?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Well, tim, you're the hope of the future, and I don't
mean that as a glib compliment,I mean it.
The fact that I'm talking toyou without fear of being
arrested, without you know,without fear of my bank account
being being, you know, grabbed,punished, yeah, means we're
making progress, yes, and you'repart of the solution.
(44:39):
Well, I let people know, right,you're letting them know kudos
to you, yeah you probably letwhat a hundred thousand people
know, right, you're letting themknow Kudos to you.
Yeah, you probably let what100,000 people know today what
happened to me, or?
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I don't know how big are you, 45 million, at least
plus.
And that's worldwide, that'sworldwide, all right 120
countries do it.
Right, so you're going to getout there All right, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
But more kudos to you then, because you could use
that kind of clout not for good.
You know you could get bigpharma to pay you big money with
that audience.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Or to just shut up right.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
To promote the next vaccine, or you know, and you're
doing the right thing.
That wouldn't feel right thoughthat wouldn't feel right,
though it wouldn't feel right?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, I know, I mean, sometimes there's common sense
and one of my big things on theshow is common sense has still
got to be around somewhere.
Now you say you were fromMinneapolis right at one time.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I was living in New Ulm, minnesota.
Probably no one's heard of that.
It's a little.
Harold Loffamacher and the SixFat Dutchmen Okay, it was the
best band they ever had, so thatgives you a flavor.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
You're paying attention to what's going on
here politically in the state.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yes, I am, and did you see the new mayor for
Minneapolis.
Who is that?
Speaker 2 (46:06):
We got Omar against the incumbent, fry Jacob Fry.
I'm not in Minneapolis, I'm anunderground bunker, far away
from that crap as I couldpossibly get, and they have this
new thing going on Now.
We all knew that the Dems weregoing to start beating each
other up.
It was just when.
Now, in our state which is kindof a mental state, when we have
(46:29):
these things going on in theworld and we don't want them in
our state you've got the leftbeating up the far left and vice
versa.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So now we've got Well , when I lived there, we had to
deal with Hubert H Humphrey.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh sure, Well, it wasn't quite that radical then.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
No it wasn't, so now we've got a.
Today is wild.
Oh, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Not that I want to pull politics in this
conversation, but my point issometimes you can't make this
stuff up and the truth is moreradical than what you can fathom
.
So sometimes public breakswho's the?
Speaker 3 (47:04):
idiot that said you're not going to own anything
but be happy, yeah, I meanclose, Wasn't that?
Stalin?
Well, originally, yeah, but nowthis, you know.
Yeah, these guys are smokingsomething.
And the population thing youknow, I read a little book when
I was in seminary, called theMyth of Overpopulation, by a
(47:28):
theologian named Rush Dooney.
And I'm telling you, I heardElon Musk do a podcast the other
day and he says we're introuble.
He said we don't have enoughpeople in China or Japan or here
in order to maintaincivilization.
He said it's reaching dangerous.
(47:51):
And if you fly a lot, look outthe window.
The country's empty.
Yeah, they're all packed intoNew York and California and
Texas.
But if you fly over the countryand it's almost dark, look out
the window.
Yeah, they're all packed intoNew York and California and
Texas.
But if you fly over the countryand it's almost dark, look out
the window.
Unbelievable it is, isn't it?
(48:14):
We got room, come on in.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
So if we were to look forward, we were to look
forward to this.
We've talked our little bit ofpolitics here and we know that I
think we're on the same page.
If we look forward, what's nextin your mission to inspire, to
educate others, the alternativecancer treatments?
I mean, can we get a glimpse onwhat's going on next with you?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
I'm going to do two things.
I'm going to change my speechmy little pot, you know, my
little PowerPoint, okay, and I'mgoing to talk about connecting
the dots.
Analyze your life right now.
Do you see anything that shouldbe avoided in the future?
(48:59):
And now is the time to take thegood steps in the future.
And now is the time to take thegood steps so it never really
happens.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Kind of like a dead doctors don't lie program.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yep Prevention and that instead of me getting up
and saying, if you've got cancer, I know how they got it.
Look what happened to me.
I'm switching gears and sayingwouldn't it be nice if we could
get to a place in our societylike the Hunzas that lived to be
120, 130 years old?
No cancer, teeth are all there.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Eyesight, you know you can see, you can pee, you
can do all that right.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
It's available, okay, but not with our current
approach and education, and Ineed to be a part of that.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Interesting, very courageous of you.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Well, all of a sudden , I thought, you know, I'm
trying to reach people withcancer and I thought what are
the odds?
The odds are really a lotbetter to take people in their
youth and say here's how you'renever going to deal with that
garbage, you know.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
I think our youth is confused on where they should go
bathroom.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
It would never occur to me to think it's a great
thing to go into a ladies' room.
In fact, when I was in Franceas an exchange student, they had
these outdoor biffies that youhad to pay a few you know a
little bit of money to get into,and I sat down in one of them.
I looked over and there's alady with her nylons rolled down
next to me.
(50:38):
It was not interesting, soawkward.
It was not interesting, soawkward.
I couldn't wait to get out ofthere, you know.
So I don't get it.
I mean, I'm just not designedthat way, I guess.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
A difference in, you know, upbringing, right?
Yeah, I mean we look at thingsdifferently.
I mean I'm 58.
I spend most of my life in myown room.
It's my own world.
You build it, you develop it,you do it, and some of these
people some of these people'skids.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
It's just, it's incredible, isn't it?
I don't know where it comesfrom.
Well, you know, I had.
I don't want to get politicaland I'll stop, but I had four
vaccines the entire.
I had four vaccines the entiretime I grew up.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Our little kids sometimes are offered as many as
40 or 50.
Ooh, and I had advantages thatthey didn't have and I got
terminal cancer Right.
So it just shows you how fastthings degenerated.
And the foods that I could buyin a convenience store.
(51:48):
When a kid you know bigCoca-Cola bag of chips and some
chocolate every day after school, well, that begins to take a
toll, absolutely.
But if kids would connect whatthey're doing today with the
person they could becometomorrow.
Find out what interests them.
You want to be a musician?
(52:09):
What Guitar?
Okay, what if you could buy a$10,000 guitar?
It would be wholly differentthan the one you're playing now.
Well, the only way you can dothat is to succeed today and do
it again and again, and againand again and again and do the
right thing, consistently betternext time and you'll get that
(52:30):
guitar.
Yep, you know you'll.
Yeah, that's where my shift iscoming from nice.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I used to tell my kids and grandkids here's how
you not do it.
Pay attention to these peoplewho are doing it the wrong way.
Let's learn from their mistakesand then not make our own.
It's a crazy world, isn't?
Speaker 3 (52:52):
it Wasn't it King Solomon that said.
I looked at the wall and thebricks were falling down and I
learned what not to do.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
I learned what not to do.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Yeah, there it is.
There's a lesson in there, eventhough you think the wall looks
crappy.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I have had an absolutely interesting
conversation today and Iappreciate your time.
I'm segueing to pull the pinbecause we've got to pull this
off 29 into this one.
Any last thoughts?
Would you like to plug yourbook?
Speaker 3 (53:26):
29 into this one.
Any last thoughts?
Would you like to plug yourbook?
Well, just go to RNC store likeRick, nancy, charlie, storecom
and uh, and find the magnifyingglass and type Rick, and, and
you're going to give them notfor you, but for them a 10%
discount.
And I would say kudos to TimHutton, because you are part of
(53:47):
the solution today, not part ofthe problem, and if there are
more of you, an army of you,we'll turn the tide.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
I consider myself just an observer, because you
guys are the story.
You guys are absolutely thestory.
I'm just here to report it, toread it, to listen to it.
So you've lived it and I getthe privilege of sitting here in
my studio, in my undergroundbunker, which is kind of a cool
studio, and just listen to thesestories.
(54:19):
Where else can you sit down andtalk to me for an hour and go,
man?
I've lived a life on radio thatyou can't live back yeah, yeah,
it's changed.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Anyway, appreciate you and thank you for inviting
me and I'm glad that I was hereand good, good good on both of
us yes, I was.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
I'm very much thankful.
Uh, hudast is going to dropthis episode tomorrow morning
early when you check it out.
It'll be available in all thecountries, in all your podcast
stations.
We are on every one, and some Idon't even know about.
And if you want to reach out tohim and hit that search engine
on his site, please do and givehim some muscle to make this
(55:03):
work in his life.
But for HuttCast thank you verymuch for coming on, thank you
everybody else for listening anduntil next time.
I know I've been off a littlebit.
It's been kind of a busy summerfor us and we want to just
thank you for being goodlisteners.
I'm watching my downloads.
You guys are rocking it againand we'll be back.
So thank you again, stand by,and that's a wrap for HuttCast.
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man, who wants to bring light tothe darkness and dark to the
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I'm here, thank you, lookingforward to this okay, rick, we
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All right, welcome back toHUTCAST.
So on the show.
If you've listened to me forany amount of time.
We have these special guests,these guests that come in and
they rock your world.
They tell you things that youdidn't know and you probably
(03:37):
should know.
Everybody knows that I'm a big2A Amendment supporter, freedom
of speech guy, but I'm also aCommon Sense guy and we have
here again Rick Hill, the author, speaker or survivor of things.
He's going to tell us that weshould probably be paying
attention to.
Rick, can you hear me?
(03:57):
Okay, I can, it's great, thankyou.
So first of all, there's somethings that we want to know
about you.
Where'd you come from?
What did you do?
How did you do?
I mean, how did you make yourmoney?
The whole thing's in life.
Let's get that away at ourfirst question who are you?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm a guy that went to seminary.
I was a principal at aChristian day school in New Ulm,
minnesota.
I had my life all mapped out,newly married about the year, my
wife was just expecting ourfirst child and you know, hey
rewards.
And then I got a tumor, oh boy,and I went to the doctor.
(04:43):
They shipped me around todifferent guys.
One guy was a little sharperthan the others and he said look
, I've seen this before.
I think you need to go to theMayo Clinic.
You're not far from me, it's atwo or three hour drive and I'll
make an appointment and you go,da, da, da.
So I show up, they run methrough the ring and then the
(05:05):
surgeon comes in and says weneed to do some surgery.
It's going to be extensivebecause it's exploratory.
They didn't have scans backthen.
1974, okay, 50 years ago, wow,yeah.
So to give you the cliff notes,I I did eight and a half hours.
They did eight and a half hoursof surgery.
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They operated even on my neck.
They found cancer.
They operated on my feet, theyfound cancer.
And after this lengthy surgerythey just closed me all up and
when I came to they said boy,it's everywhere, it's in your
lymphatic system and it's goingto be hard to stop.
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But we've got some chemo.
We'll take a run at it.
You know, not soundingaltogether positive, and so I
had made up my mind that inabout three days I was going to
start chemo and probably lose mylife quickly.
But here's where the story getsinteresting.
This is that opening incidentthat changes the rest of your
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life.
So you know we're going to jumpinto act two pretty quickly.
I got a letter with a 10-centstamp on it and I opened it up.
It was from a guy I knew he wasa Baptist pastor, but he was
also a John Bircher.
I don't know if you've beenaround long enough to know who
(06:35):
that is, but it's kind of—goahead.
I don't know the name, no, Okay,it's kind of like MAGA on
steroids.
All right, very conservativegroup and he used to come to our
college and speak in chapel andhe would do the first 20
minutes on politics, which wasnot like our association and me
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and the other Lumen ones wouldsit with our arms folded rolling
our eyes.
Okay, okay, we're gonna get outof the un.
Gotcha.
Now tell us something that wecame to hear.
You know, right, this guy wroteme and and it just said and I'm
not, this is all that was onthe paper.
If you want to live commayou're going to have to leave
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the Mayo Clinic.
John, wow, I know, and I lookedaround the room to see.
Did anybody else read this?
And this is crazy, tom.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So you're in shock.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I called him.
I had his number and I calledhim up and I said John, I'm at
the Citadel of Modern Medicineand I've got good insurance.
What are you thinking?
He said well, I agree with that, it is a citadel of modern
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medicine, but it's not medicineyou need at this point.
I said why not?
He said well, how are you doing?
I said you've been talking tosomebody I know.
And yeah, I said what do youwant me to do, john?
Come on, cut to the chase.
He said well, you're going tohave to leave the Mayo Clinic.
You're going to fly into SanDiego.
I thought, okay, nothing wrongwith that.
But then, and he said, yeah,then you're going to get on a
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bus and go to Tijuana.
I said my whole family's here.
They flew in to say goodbye,see who gets the gold watch.
And I said you want me to tellthem.
Oh, wait a minute, wait aminute.
What are they going to give mein Tijuana that I can't get here
?
He says are you sitting down?
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I thought, oh, no, this getsworse by the second.
I said yeah, john, I'm seated.
I can hardly stand up after thesurgery I've had.
He says it's a derivative ofapricots.
I said so tonight after dinner,you want me to address my
family and say I'm leaving theMayo Clinic, going to Tijuana,
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and they're going to give meapricots I suppose this is an IV
.
He said, yeah.
I said, john, you know, let mehang up and call the
chemotherapist.
So I hung up, I called the MayoClinic.
He came to the phone because Iwas, you know, a guy that was
nearly dead, weighed 120 pounds.
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Oh boy, and I'm 5'9" Okay.
So I got him on the phone and Isaid here's what's going on.
I told him the story and Iexpected he'd cuss me out.
Tell me how stupid I am,because my family did.
And he says well, it is warm inTijuana this time of year, I
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know.
And I looked at him, my mouthdropped open and I said message
delivered, I appreciate yourhonesty, thank you.
And I got up and left the office, went home, told my family what
he said, went around the roomand everybody my brother, sam
Hill, if you can believe that hesays to me Ricky, if you go to
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Tijuana, I will never speak toyou again.
And I said, sam, I don't thinkyou're going to have a choice.
And I got to my father-in-lawand he stood up from the table
and said I like it, I will takehim down there and I will put
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money into this.
Well, game over.
I pointed at him, I said deal.
And two days later, tim, weleft for Tijuana and I went down
the rabbit hole Because I grewup a Detroit greaser with the
Fonzie hair, the leather jacket,the whole thing, and there was
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no health food store near me.
We didn't have manicured golfcourses and clay tennis courts
where I lived, nothing.
It was piggly-wiggly type stuff, sure, sure.
So I didn't know what to do.
We went to a health food storewhen we first got down there to
try and find something we couldeat, because they had sent me a
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diet sheet and I've never beenin a place like this.
Now, this is the 70s, not, youknow, not like what you have
here today right right so I um,I don't know what's clinging
here, but I hope that's itthat's all right no worries he.
Um, we go in this place whereabby shanker music playing in
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the background.
I immediately see I'm the onlyone in the building wearing any
underwear and people arefiltering stuff out of barrels
and I just thought I don't blend.
I don't know what I've donehere and I would ask your
listeners do you think you haveto blend to get success?
(12:02):
Do you have to believe ahead oftime to get success?
I hear that all the time.
My wife got on the airplanewith me.
Can you imagine they let peopledo that?
Then she told the lady at thecounter my husband's dying, he's
going that can I get on theplane and just say goodbye?
And she got on.
We're both crying.
(12:22):
I looked at her and I saidsweetie pie, I think it's a
one-way ticket.
I didn't I, I apricots right.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So my question is at what point?
At what point of this wholedeal was the moment you knew
that you were going to leave?
Is it because of the money, oris it because you, you had no
light on this side of the tunnel?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I call it road signs, you know.
The first one was the baptistpastor.
Okay, yeah, you know, here's aguy that had never spoken a word
to me in my life, writes me apersonal note and sticks his
nose in my business.
So I thought to myself that'snot only gutsy, he must really
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believe in this.
To tell a dying man you've gotto leave your only hope.
So I thought I've got to atleast check this out.
Second road sign thechemotherapist right it's warm
in tijuana.
What is that?
You know?
What he was saying was reallyrick between us girls.
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We can't help you.
I don't think tijuana is goingto help you.
But if you want to lay on thebeach and sip tequila, okay,
fine, you know, do what you wantto do at this point of the of
the problem, okay.
And then the third one was myfather-in-law who, a very
successful person, had a big uhcontracting company, heavy
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equipment, and he said I'm, Iwant you to do this.
He said if you stay at the MayoClinic, you're toast.
I don't know where he maybe hewas a John Birch guy, I don't
know.
But those were three thingsthat sort of pushed me screaming
through the threshold of faith.
But I hear these people say inorder for something to work, you
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gotta believe in your heart.
That it's.
You know.
And you're in a seminar and itgoes on and on.
And you buy their book.
And you know, I don't think so.
I think if there are road signsthat you see, and it's logical
and it's based on some research,and it is.
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There was a Dr John Beard in the20s that wrote extensively on
this.
He called it the trophoblastictheory of cancer.
He got it because of workingwith pregnant women.
They came into my hospital roomat the Mayo Clinic and said got
some interesting news for you.
I said go.
He said you're pregnant, I said, and this was before woke.
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I said I don't think so and hesaid no, your urine checks out
to have a lot of HTC and a humanchorionic kinetotropin and all
pregnant women have excess ofthat and some cancers produce
that the germ cell ones like youhave.
And I said, okay, well, I don'twant to deliver a baby, so
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let's get this done, and and and.
So there was that informationthat there was actually a guy
properly degreed who thoughtthis was a good idea and then,
following him in about the 1940swas the Dr Ernst Krebs, and his
research was really good aboutB17.
(15:47):
People think about B17 withthis more than they think about
the enzymes.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, you're jumping to my next question now, hold on
.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You were going through this verbatim as of my
questions.
Okay, were you ever afraid ofthe risks involved in rejecting
the traditional chemotherapyradiation, especially given your
severity of diagnosis?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I think the chemotherapist tipped his hat
and he said if you stay hereit's not going to matter, sure.
And so where would I rather die?
I'd rather die, I'd rather godown fighting than just to take
this guy's uh secret and andsecretly believe it too.
(16:35):
I just thought, if there's achance and the next little bit
I've got to say will finalizethat in your mind.
Gotcha, you got anotherquestion, or you want me to jump
in?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, now it segues into my number three questions.
How did the lateral vitamin B17and the nutrition play a role
in your recovery?
Because it sounds like you wereready to go there.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, I was in bad shape.
I was 120 pounds.
I was on morphine when I leftthe Mayo Clinic.
I'm seeing pink elephants, manRight.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You can smell color.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Holy cow, I mean, I'm like humming all the time.
And so when I got down there,there they gave me a diet sheet
that was real simple 80 raworganic fruits and vegetables
boring as all get out, but butreally good.
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And then they wanted me todetox and so I had my first
appointment.
That day I met Dr Contreras,the father.
That's passed now, but his sontook the clinic and he puts me
on his bench, opens my shirt andstarts frowning and I said, doc
, I'm fuzzy on a frown heretoday.
(17:54):
Did I make a mistake?
Should I go back home?
What do you think?
Come on, it's Rick.
He says none of this had tohappen, rick, none of it, if
somehow we could have got to youtwo months ago.
None of this surgery, none ofthis painkiller, nothing.
And he said but that leads meto a good question.
Because you're really sick, youare, you're in bad shape.
(18:16):
Good question because you'rereally sick, you are, you're,
you're in bad shape.
So will you do what we ask youto do, without question?
I said well, doc, I don't knowman, I you know what, if part of
it is hanging from my toenailsor something.
I don't know what you're goingto open question.
And he says no, I'm an MD.
I worked in Boston at thechildren's hospital.
I don't have a shade treeoperation.
(18:37):
We're the real deal.
But this is participatorymedicine we do here.
I can't succeed without yourhelp.
This isn't something we do toyou, this is something we do
with you.
If you don't help me, if youdon't help me, we'll fail you
and me.
(18:57):
So what's it going to be?
And I thought, wow, I got nosuch speech at the Mayo Clinic.
It was roll your sleeve up,we're giving it to you.
And you know, right after allthat surgery, they gave me white
bread, jello and 7-Up.
So if the cancer wasn't goingto kill me, their diet would.
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So I just thought, yes, I'll doit, I'm in All in, 100%, let's
go.
And so the next day the nursecomes in.
She says we need to start yourdetox.
And I said how do we do that?
She said, well, you're going toget a three gram injection of
B17, which is a derivative ofthe apricot kernel, which is
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high in nitrilicide and even hascyanide in it, but not at
levels.
Oh, the FDA said.
Oh, it'll kill you.
I took six grams in one day.
I had no negative side effectsat all, nothing Didn't even get
nauseated.
I had no negative side effectsat all, nothing Didn't even get
nauseated.
And so she gave me that.
And then she gave me theenzymes that I was really.
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I'd read Dr Beard's work.
Cancer cells are coated in aprotein and that enzyme
dissolves the protein.
So when your immune systemfloats by, they go look over
there, get them.
Otherwise, with that protein onthere, they don't see it.
I thought that was interestingand that's based on how a mother
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stops that rapid cell division.
In the second month ofgestation.
Her pancreas produceschymotrypsin, lots of it.
The mother lives, the babylives.
It's a happy ending.
But now, as an adult, I'm notattached to an umbilical cord,
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there's nobody giving me theseenzymes.
So I went someplace where theyknew that and they gave them to
me and I'm still taking themeven today, but a little bit
right.
And so she gives me that.
And then she's holding a hoseand she says um, I said what's
that for?
She says have you ever changedthe water in the radiator of
(21:12):
your car?
And I thought that was a sillyquestion.
I said well, yeah.
She said yeah.
She said how'd you do it.
And I said I told her and shesays exactly.
And I said where does the hosego?
And even today I cringe when Ithink about the answer.
But they wanted to teach me howto do colonics Now, not a day at
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the beach, yeah right.
Okay, tim, this is not what you.
Hey, it's Saturday, let's goget a colonic.
No, but they don't hurt andthey're not really that
embarrassing.
And and when Elvis died, theysaid he had 40 pounds of
undigested matter in his colon.
He just wasn't going to thebathroom.
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And and you meet people thatsay I go about once a week, I'm
good.
No, you're not.
What does a baby do?
Every time it feeds, it goes.
So they had to retrain my gutand so they gave me the B17.
, they gave me the enzymes andfinally, there's just three
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things.
And then they gave me pangamicacid, which is vitamin B15,
which Muhammad Ali used to takebefore a fight, because it
really oxygenates the system.
Cancer is not that crazy aboutoxygen, so that I know it's
simplistic and I I know yourlisteners saying, well, come on,
(22:40):
that's it.
But three weeks I did that,just what I said, for 21 days,
and in that 21 days, tim, mycolor started coming back.
No more pink elephants.
The pain subsided and I couldstand up, straight up and walk
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and I thought this is likesomething out of a cartoon.
No one's going to believe thisNobody.
And even today, to be honestwith you, if I'm on an airplane,
well you know.
Tell me about you, rick.
I think I don't dare.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This flight ain't that long right.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Oh, and they're not going to believe it.
You know they're going to go,okay, thank you.
All right, let me get to mybook.
You know I mean.
Yeah, chapter one Yep, my book,you know, I mean, yeah, it's
chapter one, yep, yep, well,that's that's an incredible
story.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's an incredible story.
I tell you what we are, what?
Uh oh, 21.18 into this firstsegment.
Let me take a break and when wecome back I'd like to talk
about the, the life afterrecovery.
There you go, because, becauseyou finished up my third
question excellent, with the B17.
And then, yeah, let's go intothat.
So stand by for Hot Cast.
(24:03):
We're going to take a quickbreak and come back and let's
hear the rest of this, so standby.
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Welcome back to Headcast.
Rick Hill is with us.
We have left the last segmentbefore our break and we're going
to talk about a whole differentmeaning, a different avenue.
It's called Life After Recovery.
After beating cancer, you wenton to achieve remarkable things,
rick.
Recovery after beating cancer,you went on to achieve
remarkable things, rick.
You authored a book, you.
(25:01):
You co-invented an air purifieryears which is selling over 50
million.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, we, we got lucky.
I co-patented it and we took itto a great big company and we
sold 50 million.
Our first year or so that thatwas my home run.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
How did your experience with cancer shape
your drive to success?
You know everybody wants toknow how.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
now Whether you knew it or not and I'm inclined to
think you did know it you havehit on the most important part
of this conversation.
Okay, what?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
is that and that?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
is that remission is misunderstood.
I see it all the time onFacebook Cancer people say I'm
cancer free, I got mycertificate.
We're having a remission partythis Saturday, bringing
champagne, chocolate cake.
I dodged that bullet and thenthree months later they're on
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Facebook going.
I can't believe what I justheard.
I am full of tumors againBecause when the cancer comes
back, it comes back like a lion.
And if I could give yourlisteners one little piece of
free advice, it's this Make alifetime commitment to this.
The cancer wants to live likeevery other cell in your body
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and it's going to hunt, it'sgoing to change, it's going to,
it's going to do what it can do.
But if you keep, I take all thethings that I took, but much
less of it.
Now, way Miller, like I'll onlytake this call will be recorded
I'll only take, uh, you know,one Laetrile tablet.
(26:42):
I'll eat some of the apricotseeds, maybe six, and I take the
enzymes at 10 and 2 every day,you know, because I'm not trying
to digest food with that, I'mtrying to get rid of that
protein coating.
And then I take some B15, but alittle bit.
I mean a three-month supply islike 40 bucks, I mean it's
nothing.
But people won't do that.
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They want to go back to thelife they were living when they
got sick.
They want to go drinking Fridaynight, they want to eat crap
food and when they do thatthey're kicking the door open
for round two.
But I guarantee you round twois worse than round one.
So I believed that when I leftTijuana and I started shopping
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in the health food stores I hadto drive 40 miles to get to one.
But I made the changes in mylife.
Get the one, but I made thechanges in my life and I felt
good and I looked okay and thewhole thing and that kind of
gave me that impetus to try newthings.
(27:54):
I was not voted the most likelyto succeed.
As a kid I stuttered badly.
Honestly, I never got above a Cminus or a D my entire
post-college career pre-collegecareer and I was not the guy
you'd pick out of the line.
You'd say, oh, he's going tomake it, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
But this experience taught methat I can learn something new,
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get good at it and succeedwildly.
And me, who stuttered for mostof his life?
I became a professional speaker, president of the Florida
Speakers Association.
People now would pay money tohear me talk.
Nice.
And this one little thing ledto the next and I tried new
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things with the confidence thatI'm lazarus.
I walked out of the tombtotally well and I might be able
to do that a few more timesduring my life.
So it it was preparatory.
Without a doubt, I'm probably abetter guy because I went
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through it, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, you've been a strong advocate.
What?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You've been a strong advocate for transparency and
choice in cancer treatments.
What changes would you like tosee the medical community
regarding the alternativetherapies?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, that's exactly where it's got to start.
Bobby Kennedy.
The first time he ran acrossthat stage at the RNC convention
, I turned to my lady and saidthat's a Kennedy.
Like what's going on in thisworld.
Yeah, and he's got two goodthings.
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He says he wants freedom ofchoice.
He doesn't have to agree withme, he doesn't have to sign the
thing that says laetrile reallyworks.
I just I had to smugglelaetrile out of tijuana.
I had an underwear full oftablets when I walked across
that border and I'm not asmuggler, I'm a grandpa that,
(30:08):
you think, probably barbecues alot if you saw me.
Okay, yeah, I mean I just don'tlook like a tough guy.
But Bobby said that he wouldwork on freedom of choice.
And then the second thing is hewants to revamp medical school
and have organic nutrition to bea mainstay in the curriculum.
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Doesn't mean they don't dodrugs.
Doesn't mean they don't dosurgery, but they most doctors.
You sit down and you talk tothem.
They are clueless.
I mean they go down to thedrugstore and get some vitamin c
and you don't get sick anymore.
You know it's that kind ofthing, right?
Not a word about your diet.
Not a word about foodcombination combinations,
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nothing okay so you, if he doesthat, kudos.
Trump picked right on that one.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Right, but not that I'm a big Obama supporter.
But the only intelligent thingI ever heard of come out of his
mouth was I thought change wouldbe easier Now.
This was on the Jay Leno showand I'm listening to this guy
thinking you know it's not mypick, I mean, but you know I can
ride both sides of the fencehere and he said that and it
(31:26):
rang a bit of truth.
Obama actually rang some truthin my head and I said that makes
a lot of sense because you knowhe's going to come in and
change and you know all thepolitical promises and all that
crap.
Now Trump's only got well hissecond four years 2.0.
Is kennedy going to be aroundlong enough to even enable these
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and to segue?
What was your experience likein the oasis hospital and how
did it differ from traditionalmedical care?
Now, oasis, I suppose, is thesouth of the border one.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
yes, tijuana, right next to the bull ring at the
ocean.
So now you never forget thatwhen you drive down there,
there's a bull ring yeah, theycross the street.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
They don't have any uh planning like they do in the
cities here.
But I get you.
But it's incredible how, howyou would do that.
I mean, is he gonna have enoughtime to make this change d
kennedy?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I agree with him 100 obama on this issue, because I
know this.
This sounds counterintuitive,but I think it was easier for me
to make the changes because thethreat level was high.
The, the guy that struggles,the lady that struggles with
change are the ones that aretrying to lose 15 pounds and get
(32:44):
off of, you know, diabetesmedicine.
They don't think of it as lifethreatening.
Nothing's pressing them againstthe wall, and for me, I was
playing with fire.
Yeah, so I agree that change ishard, and I opened this segment
(33:04):
by saying how many people haveI seen die on Facebook Because
they were unwilling to extendthe change?
Sure, they did it when theywere at a clinic, but they got
home and there was all thosecupcakes in the cupboard and the
Coca-Colas and all that stuff.
And then they bought all thisfood that's grown with gly.
You know the roundup and oh,yeah, yeah the monsanto crew
(33:29):
yeah, oh geez, let's, you know,bring back the gallows.
I'm telling you it's, it'stermination by sophistication
well, but you're getting thatwrong.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Wrong, aren't you?
I mean, that's your life.
How do you change when youchange?
But you had to, you had to hadto or die, right.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
And you know, people come up to me after a seminar
and they say you know, you guysmake me sick.
And I said, oh, I'm sorry, butwhy?
Well, because you act like ifwe ever go to McDonald's, we're
not even going to heaven.
I said I never said that.
I said, and I don't believe it,in fact, I think you're going
to get there quicker.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Try the veal.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
We're here all week.
So you know, yeah, it's hard.
But kudos and hats off to the55-year-old lady or guy that
says I'm going to revamp my lifebecause I want to be here for
my grandkids into my 80s and beable to walk them in the park.
You're not going to get thereby eating what you're eating now
(34:36):
and doing what you're doing now.
You've got to wake up and smellthe coffee organic coffee, I
hope.
But clearly it's change, andboring change.
Can you imagine I did thisstrict diet for five years.
I mean didn't cheat.
(34:56):
Can you imagine, in the fifthyear when I bellied up to the
table and said let's seevegetable salad or fruit salad
and okay, we'll go with fruit?
You know I'd hold my head andI'd say this is for a good cause
and it tastes good.
(35:16):
I'm glad to have it.
But man, you know I want toslice a pizza right.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, he also doesn't understand that the listeners
here this worked for rick.
Your particular situation mightnot work and you need to
explore these options foryourself.
Rick has not given his opinionon what you should do.
He's given his opinion on whatworked for him.
Is that correct, rick?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
that's correct and that's why I threw in a couple
of references to do a littleresearch, you know, so that they
get drug across the thresholdof faith.
Yeah, kicking and screaming.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And books and legacy.
You had a book Too Young to Dieand the Cancer Conundrum.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, too young to die is better, it's funnier,
it's cheaper.
I tell all these stories thatI've told on your show and it's
a story of hope.
It ends with Reepicheep themouse from Chronicles of Narnia.
What people need?
(36:19):
They need a cheerleader thatsays look, I did this, it was 50
years ago.
I'm not guaranteeing anything'sgoing to work, but I am saying
it worked for me and here's aroadmap to it.
It's 100 pages long.
What do you want to do?
Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm sorry, Well, they can get these three things that
I talked about and my book ifthey'll log on to Richardson
Nutritional Store rncstorecom inthe little magnifying glass
research, just type Rick myfirst name and a package will
(37:00):
come up that's discounted andit's good for three months and
they get a free book.
Nice, I can't do more than that.
They're not interested ifthat's not a good idea.
But you even extend anadditional discount for your
listeners if they will typeHUTCAST, like H-U-T-T, cast,
(37:27):
c-a-s-t, and that's generous.
A 10% discount over and abovemy discount is a good deal.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And a caveat to that is PS HUTCAST does not make
anything on this situation.
If, in fact, if you do a HUTbuy and you and they take that
savings and apply it to youraccount, any of that money, if
it goes anywhere, will not go tothis show.
It'll go to a charity of theirchoosing, not mine.
So I want to make that ultraclear, because we're not in this
(37:56):
for the money that's generous,that is generous.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
So yeah, it's a good deal and I believe in all three
of the products that obviouslysave my life and they're not
expensive and they're easy totake.
No more injection.
You know when you want to treatcancer Long before it starts,
before it happens.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
So now you're on my next question.
Yeah, you're like a roadmap.
I got you, man, I got you.
So you're 50 years cancer-freeand someone newly diagnosed with
cancer is going to have thisemotional trauma.
What would you tell them?
When you're feeling sooverwhelmed with this?
(38:38):
What would be your first?
Here's from the gut.
I've lived this.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
It was something I mentioned about a third of the
way through when I said yourlisteners are going to hear
somebody that says, unless youbelieve and I say, do the
research, it'll only take you afew days.
And then follow your gut.
If it sounds good and it soundsbetter than what you're doing
(39:06):
now, or especially if they toldyou that you know your chances
aren't too good, yeah, thenfollow your heart.
But you know, commit, don'tkeep one foot in Egypt and one
foot in Israel.
Don't do that, right?
You know, make up your mindwhere you're going and go and
(39:27):
your friends.
You'll lose friends.
I mean, they call me up and theysay, hey, we're going for shots
and pizza tonight.
Do you want to go?
No, my doctor took me off thatstuff.
Oh yeah, that's right, you wentdown the rabbit hole.
Well, I'm sorry, and my ownfamily.
They disowned me for a periodof time and sometimes you kind
(39:49):
of got to go alone.
But you don't have to gin upand believe something.
You have to just do something,but have it based on real.
You know, make sure there's alittle research behind it or a
lot, and that it worked forother people I'm one of.
I got a lady on my Facebookthat was down there the same
(40:11):
time I was, that had braincancer and it spread to her
spine and she's now in Key WestFlorida getting too much sun
with too many grandkids.
So I'm not your only guy.
There's thousands of people outthere like me.
Uh, that's got good results,but you know what tim?
(40:35):
They don't want to talk aboutit sure that's the way it is.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
They just want to keep it inside.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
They don't want to tell somebody I had cancer, yeah
, I get that?
I do get that, yeah, and theydon't want to bother somebody
else with their problems.
How did they say it?
A friend of mine once said youknow, when you're hearing
something about somebody'smedical problems, you're so glad
that it's there's a not yoursand you're just.
You know that's not thecompassionate way to do this,
but it's.
It's the truth, I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I'm sure I'm human nature.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I'm so glad it's you, not me, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Right.
Well, they should pretendcompassion that they're going to
get this diagnosis and it's aone in two chance.
Now, thank you for turbo cancer.
But the point I'm making isthat they'll start now and buy
the little pack that's calledprevention.
Then they're treating cancer.
(41:38):
That may be future, but now,while there's no bonfire and
that's what's smart that's agood investment.
That's using your noggininstead of well, if I get cancer
, I'll find out where Rick isand I'll call him Right?
No, why wait?
That's my question.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Well, you do know that it's way cheaper to eat
crappy than it's cheaper to eatholistic.
What do you say to those people?
You get a lot of people thatlisten to the show and I don't
know their financial situation.
They could be on a WIC program,they could be on state
assistance, whatever that is,and I can buy a 12-pack of Ding
(42:20):
Dongs cheaper than I can buy aholistic head of lettuce.
You see where I'm going withthat.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yeah, but I think there's a fallacy in that, in
that if you're comparing appleswith apples, figure out what you
paid for that bag of chips andhow much did it weigh and how
much is in it.
Yeah, but I agree, yeah.
(42:49):
And then like, uh, but I agree,I think it's, I think it's, I
think it's abusive that they'llsay, well, we're not going to
put chemicals in this foodyou're buying, so we'll charge
you more.
Right, right, what it didn'tput them in there.
You know, and, and they alwaysand rfK does this all the time
he'll hold up an Americanproduct of, let's say, fruit
Loops.
Then he'll hold up a Europeanbox of Fruit Loops.
(43:12):
He'll say the European box hasfour ingredients, the American
box has 20.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, dissertation on the side of it, yeah, it's huge
.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, and that's what I want to get rid of and I
wholeheartedly agree.
But we're being charged morefor the box without it if there
is one in there in the store,and that's got to change.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Fundamentally wrong, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Now I get it.
If it's products to marketsooner because it's perishable,
sooner you have trucking costs.
I mean the whole chain ofthings.
I get it takes time and time ismoney.
But if you can get to marketcheaper for a non-GMO something,
wouldn't it make sense to dothat instead of sucking in all
(44:00):
these chemicals?
Because in our daily liveswe've talked to a number of
doctors on this show and theywant light therapy, and I've
talked to a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
But you know, sometimes you just got to pump
the brakes and go whoa, why am Ipaying more for less?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Well, tim, you're the hope of the future, and I don't
mean that as a glib compliment,I mean it.
The fact that I'm talking toyou without fear of being
arrested, without you know,without fear of my bank account
being being, you know, grabbed,punished, yeah, means we're
making progress, yes, and you'repart of the solution.
(44:39):
Well, I let people know, right,you're letting them know kudos
to you, yeah you probably letwhat a hundred thousand people
know, right, you're letting themknow Kudos to you.
Yeah, you probably let what100,000 people know today what
happened to me, or?
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I don't know how big are you, 45 million, at least
plus.
And that's worldwide, that'sworldwide, all right 120
countries do it.
Right, so you're going to getout there All right, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
But more kudos to you then, because you could use
that kind of clout not for good.
You know you could get bigpharma to pay you big money with
that audience.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Or to just shut up right.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
To promote the next vaccine, or you know, and you're
doing the right thing.
That wouldn't feel right thoughthat wouldn't feel right,
though it wouldn't feel right?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, I know, I mean, sometimes there's common sense
and one of my big things on theshow is common sense has still
got to be around somewhere.
Now you say you were fromMinneapolis right at one time.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I was living in New Ulm, minnesota.
Probably no one's heard of that.
It's a little.
Harold Loffamacher and the SixFat Dutchmen Okay, it was the
best band they ever had, so thatgives you a flavor.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
You're paying attention to what's going on
here politically in the state.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yes, I am, and did you see the new mayor for
Minneapolis.
Who is that?
Speaker 2 (46:06):
We got Omar against the incumbent, fry Jacob Fry.
I'm not in Minneapolis, I'm anunderground bunker, far away
from that crap as I couldpossibly get, and they have this
new thing going on Now.
We all knew that the Dems weregoing to start beating each
other up.
It was just when.
Now, in our state which is kindof a mental state, when we have
(46:29):
these things going on in theworld and we don't want them in
our state you've got the leftbeating up the far left and vice
versa.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So now we've got Well , when I lived there, we had to
deal with Hubert H Humphrey.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh sure, Well, it wasn't quite that radical then.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
No it wasn't, so now we've got a.
Today is wild.
Oh, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Not that I want to pull politics in this
conversation, but my point issometimes you can't make this
stuff up and the truth is moreradical than what you can fathom
.
So sometimes public breakswho's the?
Speaker 3 (47:04):
idiot that said you're not going to own anything
but be happy, yeah, I meanclose, Wasn't that?
Stalin?
Well, originally, yeah, but nowthis, you know.
Yeah, these guys are smokingsomething.
And the population thing youknow, I read a little book when
I was in seminary, called theMyth of Overpopulation, by a
(47:28):
theologian named Rush Dooney.
And I'm telling you, I heardElon Musk do a podcast the other
day and he says we're introuble.
He said we don't have enoughpeople in China or Japan or here
in order to maintaincivilization.
He said it's reaching dangerous.
(47:51):
And if you fly a lot, look outthe window.
The country's empty.
Yeah, they're all packed intoNew York and California and
Texas.
But if you fly over the countryand it's almost dark, look out
the window.
Yeah, they're all packed intoNew York and California and
Texas.
But if you fly over the countryand it's almost dark, look out
the window.
Unbelievable it is, isn't it?
(48:14):
We got room, come on in.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
So if we were to look forward, we were to look
forward to this.
We've talked our little bit ofpolitics here and we know that I
think we're on the same page.
If we look forward, what's nextin your mission to inspire, to
educate others, the alternativecancer treatments?
I mean, can we get a glimpse onwhat's going on next with you?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
I'm going to do two things.
I'm going to change my speechmy little pot, you know, my
little PowerPoint, okay, and I'mgoing to talk about connecting
the dots.
Analyze your life right now.
Do you see anything that shouldbe avoided in the future?
(48:59):
And now is the time to take thegood steps in the future.
And now is the time to take thegood steps so it never really
happens.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Kind of like a dead doctors don't lie program.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yep Prevention and that instead of me getting up
and saying, if you've got cancer, I know how they got it.
Look what happened to me.
I'm switching gears and sayingwouldn't it be nice if we could
get to a place in our societylike the Hunzas that lived to be
120, 130 years old?
No cancer, teeth are all there.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Eyesight, you know you can see, you can pee, you
can do all that right.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
It's available, okay, but not with our current
approach and education, and Ineed to be a part of that.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Interesting, very courageous of you.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Well, all of a sudden , I thought, you know, I'm
trying to reach people withcancer and I thought what are
the odds?
The odds are really a lotbetter to take people in their
youth and say here's how you'renever going to deal with that
garbage, you know.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
I think our youth is confused on where they should go
bathroom.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
It would never occur to me to think it's a great
thing to go into a ladies' room.
In fact, when I was in Franceas an exchange student, they had
these outdoor biffies that youhad to pay a few you know a
little bit of money to get into,and I sat down in one of them.
I looked over and there's alady with her nylons rolled down
next to me.
(50:38):
It was not interesting, soawkward.
It was not interesting, soawkward.
I couldn't wait to get out ofthere, you know.
So I don't get it.
I mean, I'm just not designedthat way, I guess.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
A difference in, you know, upbringing, right?
Yeah, I mean we look at thingsdifferently.
I mean I'm 58.
I spend most of my life in myown room.
It's my own world.
You build it, you develop it,you do it, and some of these
people some of these people'skids.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
It's just, it's incredible, isn't it?
I don't know where it comesfrom.
Well, you know, I had.
I don't want to get politicaland I'll stop, but I had four
vaccines the entire.
I had four vaccines the entiretime I grew up.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Our little kids sometimes are offered as many as
40 or 50.
Ooh, and I had advantages thatthey didn't have and I got
terminal cancer Right.
So it just shows you how fastthings degenerated.
And the foods that I could buyin a convenience store.
(51:48):
When a kid you know bigCoca-Cola bag of chips and some
chocolate every day after school, well, that begins to take a
toll, absolutely.
But if kids would connect whatthey're doing today with the
person they could becometomorrow.
Find out what interests them.
You want to be a musician?
(52:09):
What Guitar?
Okay, what if you could buy a$10,000 guitar?
It would be wholly differentthan the one you're playing now.
Well, the only way you can dothat is to succeed today and do
it again and again, and againand again and again and do the
right thing, consistently betternext time and you'll get that
(52:30):
guitar.
Yep, you know you'll.
Yeah, that's where my shift iscoming from nice.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I used to tell my kids and grandkids here's how
you not do it.
Pay attention to these peoplewho are doing it the wrong way.
Let's learn from their mistakesand then not make our own.
It's a crazy world, isn't?
Speaker 3 (52:52):
it Wasn't it King Solomon that said.
I looked at the wall and thebricks were falling down and I
learned what not to do.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
I learned what not to do.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Yeah, there it is.
There's a lesson in there, eventhough you think the wall looks
crappy.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I have had an absolutely interesting
conversation today and Iappreciate your time.
I'm segueing to pull the pinbecause we've got to pull this
off 29 into this one.
Any last thoughts?
Would you like to plug yourbook?
Speaker 3 (53:26):
29 into this one.
Any last thoughts?
Would you like to plug yourbook?
Well, just go to RNC store likeRick, nancy, charlie, storecom
and uh, and find the magnifyingglass and type Rick, and, and
you're going to give them notfor you, but for them a 10%
discount.
And I would say kudos to TimHutton, because you are part of
(53:47):
the solution today, not part ofthe problem, and if there are
more of you, an army of you,we'll turn the tide.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
I consider myself just an observer, because you
guys are the story.
You guys are absolutely thestory.
I'm just here to report it, toread it, to listen to it.
So you've lived it and I getthe privilege of sitting here in
my studio, in my undergroundbunker, which is kind of a cool
studio, and just listen to thesestories.
(54:19):
Where else can you sit down andtalk to me for an hour and go,
man?
I've lived a life on radio thatyou can't live back yeah, yeah,
it's changed.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Anyway, appreciate you and thank you for inviting
me and I'm glad that I was hereand good, good good on both of
us yes, I was.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
I'm very much thankful.
Uh, hudast is going to dropthis episode tomorrow morning
early when you check it out.
It'll be available in all thecountries, in all your podcast
stations.
We are on every one, and some Idon't even know about.
And if you want to reach out tohim and hit that search engine
on his site, please do and givehim some muscle to make this
(55:03):
work in his life.
But for HuttCast thank you verymuch for coming on, thank you
everybody else for listening anduntil next time.
I know I've been off a littlebit.
It's been kind of a busy summerfor us and we want to just
thank you for being goodlisteners.
I'm watching my downloads.
You guys are rocking it againand we'll be back.
So thank you again, stand by,and that's a wrap for HuttCast.
(55:30):
Huttcast is again a pragmaticapproach to seeing things how
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