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Scott Schara's fight for justice following his daughter Gracie's tragic death reveals critical flaws in the healthcare system, particularly concerning DNRs issued without family knowledge. Through his ongoing legal battle, Scott underscores the need for transparency and accountability in medical care, advocating for families to empower themselves with the knowledge necessary to protect their loved ones. 
• Scott shares the story of his daughter Gracie and the circumstances of her death 
• Current legal proceedings and the challenges faced during depositions 
• The significant role of medical powers of attorney in healthcare decision-making 
• Deep dive into DNR orders and their implications for families 
• Call to action for increased awareness and advocacy in healthcare reform

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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man, who wants to bring light tothe darkness and dark to the
lightness.
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(00:24):
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been forced back behind thebarricades and the blast doors
are now sealed.
Without further delay, let meintroduce you to the host of
HuttCast, mr Tim Huttner.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
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of the host or the show.
The opinions in this broadcastare not to replace your legal,
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(01:04):
Broadcasts are not to replaceyour legal, medical or spiritual
professionals.
Welcome in today on HuttCast,special guest Scott Schera.
Scott is the father of Gracie.
Gracie Schera was a COVIDvictim.
She was a hospital victim.
There was all these victimsthat were put into a spot where
the outcome was not favorable.

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Gracie had passed Her father'son this mission to hold the
people responsible for theiractions.
He's been doing a heck of a job,a heck of a bang-up job,
because it's getting nationalpress, it's getting all kinds of
press about this and they go totrial in June.
So stand by, because HUDCAST isgoing to have an on-the-phone

(01:46):
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are going without hopefullytipping any inside information
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All right, thanks for comingback to HuttCast today.
We had a somber season four,episode 13, about Grace Shera
and her fight to get health care, and we got an update and some

(03:58):
stuff information that we'regoing to have.
Scott, are you with me?
That's her father, scott.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I am.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Thanks, tim, and thanks for being on the show.
So so rapid and early.
I I just wanted to get this outthere because I've been getting
some emails again and I thought, okay, why not?
Why not a better time?
So tell us what's going on,because I've been reading some
emails and you guys have hadjust a number of things going on
.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well, we're in.
You know we're hot and heavyinto the and what that means.
There's a period of time thatstarted November 1st of 23 and
ends the end of March.
It's called Discovery March of25.
And in Discovery the first stepis interrogatories.
They do questions back andforth and then depositions.

(04:50):
Our family depositions were inMay of 24.
Interestingly, during our familydepositions, while I had
attorneys flown in, we hadscheduled doctor and nurses
depositions the entire weekfollowing and the defense
demanded that they would notproceed with the doctor and
nurse depositions unless Isigned a gag order, because I've

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been very outspoken, and so wedid a conditional I guess you'd
call it that a conditional gagorder.
The condition was that thedefense had to file a motion
with the court so the judgewould hear their case, and we
finally did that.
It was it was in July of 24cost $22,000 to defend that, my

(05:36):
right to free speech and thejudge allowed us to release
everything other than the videotestimony of doctors and nurses
and their experts.
So ultimately we've got all thedoctors and nurses done, our
expert depositions are done andwe start their expert
depositions now on this comingThursday, february 13th.

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So that's where we're at.
We will finish up the expertdepositions, the defense expert
depositions, in March.
Then some big things happen.
We have the defense has to well, they don't have to, but
they're going to they're goingto file a request for summary

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judgment, for the judge to throwthe case out and then we have
30 days to respond.
And then the judge has setaside three days in May May 19th
, 20th and 21st for the hearingregarding those requests for
summary judgment.
We are expecting I mean ourlegal team, which is four

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different attorneys.
They're extremely confident.
Everything is going our wayrelative to the evidence, the
depositions.
There's absolutely no reason,unless the judge is bought, that
the entire case should not goto trial.
The trial is scheduled for fourweeks, starting June 2nd.
Our legal team thinks it willgo about three weeks, but I mean

(07:01):
it could go four.
Know there's a lot of thingshappening and our goal, of
course, tim, as you would expectus, to have the entire trial
live stream so that the countrycan see what is going on behind
the curtain.
This is a big opportunity.
Our lead attorney has said wehad a big conference on Friday

(07:21):
with all the attorneys and hesaid this is the first case that
he is aware of during the COVIDera.
That is going to jury trial.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's where we're at .

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Wow, holy cow.
Yeah, I read, I read some ofthat.
Now, has anybody reached out tocourt TV and see if they'll
they'll go sponsor this?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Oh, that's a great question.
Nobody has no.
Co -sponsor this?
That's a great question.
Nobody has no.
I have a couple of people thatI know from doing interviews
that have agreed to thevideography for the trial and
then also the live streaming forthe trial.
So we have that set, butnothing on a national basis like
Court TV.
That would be fantastic.

(08:03):
So if one of your listenersknows somebody, Okay, all right,
let's reach out to people.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
If you know anybody at the production team of Court
TV and want to jump in, pleasefeel free to reach out to me or
Scott Shera he can be found allover the web.
But really I would have youguys reach out and say look,
this is going on, because thisis good content for those guys
and for the injustices that havebeen done.
Why wouldn't?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
they?
Well, that's a great question.
I mean, who's bought and who'snot?
I mean, is Court TV part of themainstream media?
You know, I have such adifferent way of looking at
things now that God has beenbehind the scenes, so let me
just give you a little backdropto that.
Tim, in July of 22, what Godshowed me was to not use Grace's

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story to expose evil.
And I really didn't know whathe was talking about then, but I
do now.
And I really didn't know whathe was talking about then, but I
do now.
And if you look at Ephesians5.11, it says have nothing to do
with the deeds of darkness, butrather expose them.
All right, so that's the NIVtranslation.

(09:21):
The NIV translation is the mostpopular in the United States
450 million copies.
Translation means to get acopyright on a translation.
They have to make substantialchanges to the starting point,
whatever they started with.
And so I dug down in that wordexpose.

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Remember what God showed meDon't use grace's story to
expose evil.
So I dug into that word expose,looked at the Geneva Bible, the
Tyndale Bible these would beBibles that have not been
compromised in my belief andthey use the word rebuke and

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reprove, not expose.
Those are a lot different thanexpose.
Expose oh, look at what's goingon.
This is all evil.
Tell my friends how evil thisis.
Well, rebuke and reprove.
You're standing firm on solidground, the solid ground of
Jesus Christ, and you'restopping the behavior.

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And so why would exposing bewrong?
That really becomes thefundamental question why is
exposing wrong?
And it is because it fits intoSatan's playbook, revelation 13,
.
In Revelation 13, god sharesSatan's dual nature, the
antichrist nature and the falseprophet nature, and they work

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together.
And we are duped by the falseprophet nature.
And they work together and weare duped by the false prophet
nature.
It's consistent throughouthuman history we're always duped
by the false prophet nature.
We want safety, security andcomfort, and God warns us in 1
Thessalonians 5, verse 3, thatwe are duped by that.
So exposing evil in the masteresoteric Hegelian dialectic

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model.
Evil has to be exposed.
That's the problem.
The reaction is fear and thesolution the chaos that comes
out of the fear.
The solution is Satan's otherside, the false prophet system.
And so this evil has to beexposed, even the evil of

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hospital murders, which has beenkept under wraps so far, for
the most part by the mainstreammedia.
But if the mainstream mediastarts exposing the hospital
murders, that would create evenmore chaos and more demand for
the false prophet Trumpadministration to provide an AI

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solution for hospital murders.
Even so, this is what's going on, you know it is.
It's all by design.
It's to get men to get afurther step away from God men
to get a further step away fromGod.
You know man caused theproblems that we have.
So solutions designed by manwill never fix those problems,

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tim and what you can.
How you can tell that theseman-made solutions are satanic
is they never acknowledge how wegot here.
We got here by rejecting Godand so, consequently, they never
call for repentance.
So, anyway, that's my maintheme.
It's been my.
The start of my theme was inJuly of 22.
But if you look at my work onmy podcast, deprogramming with
Grace's dad, I really you know Ihad a cursory knowledge of

(12:36):
Satan.
I really drilled it down toexplain what I just got done
explaining in five minutes.
And your podcast theme isDeprogramming with Grace's Dad
On all the carriers, correct?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Okay, yeah.
Well, we have no problemsharing information.
This is the point we do this.
This is why we do this, to getthat word out.
And have you noticed any?
How would I put it?
Temperature of the courts, nowthat we have new administration?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, that's above my pay grade.
Yeah, I would you know.
It isn't above the pay grade ofthe main attorney that's
involved nationally, you know.
So he's involved heavily in thecourts and I don't have any
faith in the court system.
The court system is anti-Christalso.

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So whatever the temperature is,it's all by design.
Remember, this system is partof Satan's world.
So if the temperature is hot orcold, just realize it's all by
design.
It's all designed for theprogramming of the population.
So, even a win, just takeSatan's perspective and then

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we'll compare God's perspectiveto our own legal situation.
So Satan's perspective of ourlawsuit is exoterically meaning
for the common person.
He wants us to win so thatpeople have faith in the system.
Esoterically, he also wants usto expose what's going on, as I

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said before, because then he hasthe opportunity to present a
satanic solution to this evilhospital murder system.
So that's satan's perspective,god's perspective.
God really doesn't care if wewin or lose.
That's not, you know.
He doesn't care about theaction, he cares about the heart
and my responsibility.

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Through all of this he knowshe's shown me you can't get
justice in the system, that'sobvious.
To write a check for Grace'sdeath, that's not justice, but
the ultimate justice is beingable to show what's going on
behind the curtain, so thenpeople can choose again.
We are zombies in this programsociety, and so people just

(15:02):
blindly trust the white coat.
Uh, they, they blindly taketheir meds and we have 4.2
percent of the world'spopulation tim, and we consume
44 of the world'spharmaceuticals 5 billion
prescriptions annually.
So you know, certainly godwants the people to see what's
behind the veil so that they cancome back to him.

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And that's what I've got to betrue to, not not true to a
antichrist legal system.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, I certainly understand why.
Um, just with the new change ofpotus that he's trying to bring
god back into things like this,and it just was just a.
It was a question that I had to.
I had to.
It's like hey, things are goingto turn around hopefully.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Well, the condition of turning around is repentance.
We all at least we directly ortacitly approved every step of
so the steps.
I just recently have documentedthese steps.
I've been on a number ofpodcasts over the last couple of

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weeks and I laid out 14 stakesin the ground that we have
either directly approved ortacitly approved as a society
and as individuals.
So take social security Socialsecurity was passed in 1933.
So you and I weren't born in1933, so we didn't directly

(16:32):
approve Social Security.
But if we now pay into SocialSecurity and demand our money
back when we retire now, we'veapproved it.
And Social Security.
Interestingly, in 1997, anotherthing that we did tacitly
approve or directly approve theClintons merged Social Security

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with Medicare and Medicaid.
So now when you're 65, you takeyour Social Security, you're
automatically on Medicare, andMedicare was designed it was
passed on July 30th 1965, and itwas designed to capture people
into the medical industrialcomplex.
There's 150 million Americans onMedicare and Medicaid right now
and the standards of care andI'm putting care in air quotes

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are designed to hasten deathbecause they've convinced the
population that you know, thebudget is out of control, which
is another lie.
Because we have a fiat currency, the budget's out of control.
We have to rationalize medicalcare.
There's too many disabled andelderly people and so they write
standards of care to hastenpeople's death.

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A simple example is the standardof care for cancer.
Everybody knows it it's chemo.
Chemo has a 97.9% kill rate.
Now merge the standard of carein the medical industrial
complex with the antichristlegal system.
The antichrist legal systemsays if the doctor kills
somebody with the chemo standardof care, which happens 97.9% of

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the time, he has immunity fromliability because he followed
the rules of the Center forMedicare and Medicaid Services.
And then his state licensingboard does not remove his
license because he did exactlywhat the state wants him to do.
Ultimately, we have throughover the last 120 years.

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Very specifically, we have soldour birthright for the illusion
of security and comfort that'spretty heavy well, you got me at
my best time yeah, seveno'clock in the morning.
You got me at my best time, yeah, 7 o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Mornings, after coffee, I'm on fire.
How's the family doing?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
with all this?
That's another great question.
Our daughter, jessica she isextremely in tune with what's
going on.
She's learning at a rapid pace,she really gets the lawsuit and
she will do a fantastic job asa witness.

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So that's great.
Our grandsons and her, ourson-in-law, her husband, you
know, they're, of course, all onboard, they realize what we're
up.
Her husband they're, of course,all on board, they realize what
we're up against and they'reextremely supportive.
My wife, cindy she has, overthe last six months, really got

(19:35):
involved with a lady who hasspecial needs strangely tell,
because our story is out there,not just nationally but locally.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Oh, it's out there.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
We didn't know her.
She ended up in the samehospital as Grace.
The family contacted us, askedif we'd visit.
We went into the hospital tovisit her.
This was last August and wewere in her room 10 minutes and
two armed guards showed up andescorted us out.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh boy.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You're not allowed in this hospital.
Ultimately, as we have gottento know this lady, they tried to
kill her twice in a ventweaning hospital and she has
become a ward of the state andwe just filed the papers
yesterday to transferguardianship to my wife and this

(20:29):
lady's sister.
So she's not a ward of thestate anymore and so that's what
my wife was doing.
She just got.
She got over about one in themorning this morning.
Uh, she goes over and stayswith this lady in.
She's at a, uh, bent weaningfacility not a hospital anymore
in about three hours away,chippewa Falls, wisconsin, and

(20:50):
she goes there three to fourdays a week and so that's what
has been occupying her time.
She has a real gift at workingwith special needs people and
she's in her wheelhouse whenshe's over there, but I'm glad
to have her home.
Of course she's supportive.

(21:11):
It's just you know she misses.
Grace was her life, yeah, andso you know.
So she's got a lot of emptiness.
So this has been a realblessing to fill that, that void
and um, I don't, I see this aspart of what does the rest of

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our life look like after thistrial is over?
What?
What does it look like?
Well, I don't know exactlythere's a.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
There's a lot of help that people need out there.
I mean just what she's doingfor last night.
Look at that.
That.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Exactly, yeah.
So it's neat.
It's neat to see it.
You never know what God has instore.
You know, if we win the trial,that will facilitate.
We've already said publiclywe're contributing 100% of the
money to our nonprofit.
We started a nonprofit afterGrace died and we're going to

(22:04):
contribute the money to thenonprofit so that the nonprofit
then can be fully funded and dothings like this without having
it come out of our.
You know we don't have anypersonal money right now.
Everything is we're all in onthis.
You know everything is going tothe trial and the nonprofit
going to the trial and thenonprofit.

(22:26):
If we're successful at trialand we have a verdict, all that
money will go into the nonprofitso we can do way more of these
type of things.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Sure, Well, first of all you've got to make yourself
whole again, and then you canstart chasing these guys.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Well, it's all God's money, so we've chosen to not
make ourselves whole either.
I know it sounds kind of crazy,but it's okay, it's all his.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Well, there's a lot going on and I'm sure that many
attorneys they don't work oncheap, you know.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, it's expensive, no doubt about it, I get it.
I mean we have to have decentattorneys and they about it, I
get it.
I mean we have to have decentattorneys and they have to get
paid Right.
And they are really doing agood job with the system that
they are in.
So I'm very happy with theirwork.
They have essentially adoptedme as the fifth member of the

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team, partially because of mybackground.
My background is strategicplanning, you know.
So I'm, as one of the attorneyssaid, you're kind of like the
general manager of the baseballteam Make sure all the
everything's covered and youdon't, you know, don't let
anything slip through the cracksand it's been real good to work
with them as a team.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
It also keeps you busy, too, with what you got
going.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Oh boy, yeah, I'm anywhere from 75 to 90 hours a
week it's.
I have never worked so hard forso long on one project.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's a pretty important project.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And it's going to be life changing for a lot of
people, not just you guys.
That's how I see it.
Well, that's our hope.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's what our hope is.
I mean, we have, outside of themedical malpractice claim, we
have two claims that arepotentially life-changing.
We have a battery claim and adeclaratory judgment for the
illegal do not resuscitate orderand those winning those claims.
That would have repercussionsthroughout the entire country.

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So that would be fantastic andyou know that's.
That is something that thelawsuit can do to make a
difference.
You know medical malpracticethose claims are not going to
make a difference becausethere's medical malpractice is
already acknowledged as thethird leading cause of death,
Tim so.
But these other claims have thechance to change behavior.

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So that's a win.
Changing behavior is a win.
If the doctors and nurses thatare defendants in the lawsuit
repent, that's a win.
That would be a major winbecause that means they're going
to speak out even more than Iwould, because they know the
literal details as to what'sgoing on behind the curtain.
So wouldn't that be awesome ifthey start speaking?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
out.
Huge, that'd be huge.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I have been since our last visit.
I have been listening to a lotof people and their family
members having this DNR, beingchosen by the medical
professionals and without thefamily's knowledge.
All of a sudden, they're on ado not resuscitate, or it's
changed or it's modified, orit's by the doctor's discretion,

(25:44):
and I'm thinking hold on here.
Why is this even a thinganymore?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
I, I get it.
I learned something in goingthrough the guardianship classes
with cindy that applies to bothwisconsin and minnesota and 13
other states, and that isthere's 15 states in the country
that are what's called not nextof kin states.
So envision this Tim, you gointo a hospital today, you would

(26:13):
expect that the hospital wouldcall your wife.
That just is like commonknowledge, right?
That would be walk aroundknowledge.
Everybody think that thehospital has an obligation to
call the next of kin.
Sure, and what I found in goingthrough the guardianship
classes is that is true inapproximately 35 states.

(26:35):
35 states have different laws onthis.
Wisconsin is one that does nothave a next of kin law, which
means, in that example I justshared, the hospital takes over
decision-making authority foryou.
So then they can do whateverthey want, including putting a
DNR on you.
So how do you get around that?
It's such a simple fix and it'san urgent fix.

(26:57):
Get a medical power of attorneyand make sure the medical power
of attorney who you designateis awake to what is going on and
wants and is willing to takeownership of the responsibility
that comes with being anadvocate.
With the medical power ofattorney.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
So medical power of attorney?
Yes, it's critical.
Your standard attorney canwrite that up yes, and you can
find them online.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
We have.
We don't post one on grace'swebsite because it changes state
by state, but we there's acompared a companion document
called a medical directivesdocument, and under the hospital
rescues tab of Grace's website,ouramazinggracenet, you'll see
a medical directives document,which I'd encourage everybody to

(27:50):
do also.
We paid our estate attorney todraft that document, so it's a
sample document that anybody canuse that supplements the
medical power of attorney.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Simple, easy.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
It's very simple and easy.
And then you're not relying onthe state statute.
Why rely on an anti-crimesystem?
All legislation, it's all partof the same system, it's all.
You know people are right nowoh we got to have legislation.
You know that people right nowoh we gotta have legislation.
You know that people can visitin the hospital all the time.

(28:26):
I mean, they're wasting theirbreath on legislation.
You cannot contract morality.
There is an agenda that issatanic, and the satanic agenda
is designed to have us gettrapped into one world religion
and one world government and topull this off.

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They have convinced the massesthat there's too many people on
the planet and there's notenough resources, and the
governments of the world areempowered to implement policies
consistent with that satanicagenda.
So don't waste your time onlegislation.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Wow, that's kind of a lot going on.
You have so busy.
You're such a busy guy on this.
I mean, I'm sure Grace wouldjust be like smiling to the
whole heaven on that.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Well, if she was here here, I wouldn't be doing this.
No, I know she is.
She's.
Uh, I do picture that at times.
Uh, after my very firstinterview, tim, my very first
interview was December 13th of21.
I was on on live tv on Newsmaxand my daughter called me after
watching.
She said Grace is up in heavenwatching Dad and she's saying

(29:48):
way to go, earthly Dad.
Grace called me Earthly Dad.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
I remember that story .
Could you run it again realquick for listeners?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, so two months after Grace died, I got called
by Newsmax to be on live TV.
Of course I'm nervous as allget out.
I never done an interviewbefore and now it's live TV.
And yeah, so you startpracticing.
What do you practice for?
Because they don't give you anyquestions, right and so.
But I'm still practicing.
I thought, oh my god, I saythese certain things.
I had all these, these phrasestaped around my laptop, you know

(30:19):
, because we're using my laptopfor the interview.
And so about two minutes beforethe interview, the producer
comes on to get me set for theinterview and he said you need
to move three feet back fromyour laptop, you're too close.
I thought, oh my gosh, now Ican't even read my cheat notes.
And so I used to wear a heartrate monitor at that time and my

(30:45):
heart rate's 125 beats a minutewhile I'm on this interview.
And anyway, it came across fine.
God had his hand on that andultimately that jump started all
all these interviews.
Now I have over a thousand inTim and I.
You know that's.
That's actually the easiestthing I do now is interviews.
Anyway, after that interview,jessica called me and she said

(31:11):
Dad, grace is watching you fromheaven saying way to go earthly
dad.
So that was pretty special.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And any of Grace's friends chime in.
Do they help at all, or howdoes that work?

Speaker 3 (31:26):
um, there's some we have some uh, real good friends
that have been extremely helpful.
Uh, then there's people that wethought were friends uh, and I
would say that's the majoritypeople we thought were friends
that, um, you know, they, theyhave rejected in different ways.
Uh, you know some, you knowsaying things like why don't you

(31:50):
go, why don't you get back tolife, like most people, and
things like that.
You know, just, it's not good,but that's okay.
I mean everybody's.
Yeah, I'm not.
Uh, it's not the way I wish itwas, but it just is the way it
is.
I mean, people are humans.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
They're sinful because there's always that
element.
Yeah, yeah yeah, right.
You know you get the friendsthat are hey, get back to work.
I mean, why are you wastingyour time?
I mean not that it's a waste oftime, don't get me wrong with
that, but they can't understandthe fight.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Correct.
Yeah, I had a radio host.
She called me after the show soshe asked me a question like
that and I said well, how do Istop doing this when I know
where a serial killer lives andworks?
And she called me afterwards.

(32:46):
She says you can't say serialkiller on the air and I said,
well, I just did, it's the truth.
What are you going to do aboutit?
It's the truth, and so I to doabout it.
It's the truth.
And so I mean that's, how doyou stop?
I?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
mean, you scream you jump up and down.
You do what you're doing.
My hat is off to you.
This is a heck of a fight.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I really appreciate you, Tim.
I mean, it's quite interesting.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
You just texted this morning and here we are and I
really appreciate you taking thetime for me.
Well, there's a lot of peoplethat were listening to it and
and they were asking questionsand I'm like you know, why don't
we just hear it direct from thehorse's mouth?
Because you know everythingabout this.
You're the up and down guy,you're the, you're the guy, yeah
.
So if they can hear it from you, I'm just, I'm just reporting
it.
You're the one that's, it'syour story.
You're in grace's story, yeah.

(33:40):
So I again, my hat's off to you.
I'll do everything I can do onmy side to make sure what he
hears, what I record, and it'sjust wow.
So we've covered the family,we've covered their friends,
we've covered your friends.
Do you have time to get out andbe Scott Chera again?

(34:02):
I mean, do you ever have that?
Take the wife to a movie and bepseudo normal.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, no, I did take time off during the wisconsin
deer hunt this year, so that wasabout as off of the time as you
had.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Hello scott, hello Scott.
Well, apparently we've droppedScott on the call.
So, yep, there it was.
If he jumps back on, greatsuper.
If he doesn't, all I'm going todo is I'm going to wrap this up
.
Incredible story.

(34:51):
I got a tear in my eye right now.
For a father to go through that.
Fight the system, fight themedical companies, fight the wow
.
I bet every listener out therewith a family member that's gone
through this is going to be thesame way, the same feelings.
Okay, what are we at here?

(35:14):
We are 31 minutes into this.
Here we're gonna.
We're gonna kind of pull thepin at this and we'll catch up
with scott at a later time.
He is, uh, he is my shininglight.
I could only begin to fightlike he could.
The injustices that happened togracie All right then.
Wow Got to compose myself alittle here For Hotcast.

(35:42):
We're going to stop it here.
I just need the time to thinkabout this and again, appreciate
everybody.
We are thankful for everythingthat's going on.
This episode will go out on the16th to 1625 and we'll have
another couple episodes inbetween there.

(36:02):
We're working on trying to getback to a weekly schedule, but
today is one of those days wherewe just kind of stack them up.
Alright, hudcast, signing off,be well.
May God's light shine uponGracie and his family and Scott.
Okay, that's it Signing off, bewell, and that's a wrap for

(36:29):
Hutcast.
Hutcast is again a pragmaticapproach to seeing things how
some people see them.
If you like our show, give us athumbs up on the Facebook site.
Again for HuttCast.
Thank you again.
Have a wonderful evening.
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