May 5, 2024 • 66 mins
Unlock the power of self-advocacy in healthcare as we join forces with Priscilla Romans from GraithCare, a pioneer in patient-focused healthcare. This episode guarantees to equip you with the tools to navigate the ever-evolving medical landscape, ensuring your voice is heard amidst the clamor for medical freedom and personalized care alternatives. Inspired by stories that underscore the importance of informed consent, the nuances of nutrition during cancer treatment, and the undeniable power of questioning conventional medical wisdom for the sake of your well-being.
The healthcare system is a perplexing as a maze, but with Priscilla's insights, we illuminate the pathways to making enlightened choices that resonate with your individual health journey. From the ethical dilemmas posed by insurance-based practices to the captivating story of Dr. Paul Thomas's advocacy for vaccine choice, this discussion peels back the layers of financial and medical complexities. The episode is also a treasure trove of knowledge on the significance of vital health fundamentals, such as Vitamin D levels, in combating serious illnesses like cancer, shared through personal narratives that bring home the life-saving potential of being well-informed.
This episode is a testament to the transformative impact of having an advocate in your corner, especially when facing the darker aspects of medical care — negligence, legal accountability, and the fight for medical freedom. Priscilla shares her heartfelt motivation behind establishing GraithCare, a beacon of hope offering worldwide advocacy. Her organization's commitment to compassionate support and understanding shines through, providing an uplifting conclusion that underscores the importance of human connection in our healthcare experiences. Join us to embrace the strength behind informed healthcare decisions and the power of advocacy in a world where your health is your most precious asset.
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Welcome back to the podcast today, grace Care.
Priscilla Romans is on thephone with us.
Priscilla, are you there?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I am here and I am excited to share what is going
on with patient advocacy.
People are just loving themedical freedom movement.
They are getting in control oftheir health care, so it's
really exciting to see what thisparallel health care system is
doing.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Right, well, again, it's been kind of crazy out
there, so let's jump in to tellus what's new out in the world,
with you.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Well, you know, every single day we're getting phone
calls for help from people thatare just struggling and drowning
in the sick care system.
People are really wanting tothink about how can they get
healthier without pharmaceuticalmedications, maybe, how can
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they avoid a traditional surgery, how can they get their
cholesterol under control, howthey can actually take care of
their vaccine injury.
These are some of the thingsthat we get calls on every
single day, and what happens iswhen those people reach out to
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us, we want to match them to thebest fit advocate for their
needs.
So it's kind of like matchcomYou're looking for a great date,
you put your profile out thereand you're like this is what I'm
looking for.
You call us and let us knowwhat you're looking for and we
match you with one of ouradvocates that has amazing
experience for your needs.
Because we're not only justhelping adults.
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We have pediatrics, neonatalbabies, we have seniors in
assisted livings and nursinghomes that are struggling.
Their families are frustratedand we are helping walk through
and navigate those waters astheir team for patient advocacy.
So it's huge, it's absolutelymassive what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And last time we talked, I think you had what six
or eight advocates.
Where are you at now?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
We're at 20 plus advocates.
They are all across the states.
They are hand picked, meaningthey have to have specific
experience within their niche inorder to take on client needs.
For example, we have Chris thathas a naturopathic background.
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She believes that drugs are notthe answer.
So, like a client she recentlygot, they came in and said look,
I'm on stat medications, I'm onblood pressure medications.
I don't want to be on thesedrugs because I feel like some
of these drugs are actuallygiving me really bad side
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effects.
And so, because that's what theperson is calling us needing,
we match them to Chris.
Because that's what the personis calling us meeting, we match
them to Chris.
Chris can help them withunderstanding their options and
how to help work and collaboratewith their doctor.
See, this is a team approach.
We believe that people justoftentimes don't know what to
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say and deal with their doctor,and so by giving them the
education and the understandinghow to proceed and options that
they've never even been told, itopens up the door to
possibilities.
We've got Darren on our team andanybody can go to our great
care website.
That's G-R-A-I-T-H care,c-a-r-ecom.
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All of our advocates are on thewebsite.
Darren is on board and he has atraditional oncology background
, years and years of experience.
And what's really cool is we'vegot clients that are coming to
us with new cancer diagnoses.
We just had a young 40-year-oldget diagnosed with breast
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cancer.
Her dad has gotten care from usand his dad reached back out to
us and said hey, my daughterjust got diagnosed with breast
cancer and I am really, reallyscared that the oncologist is
going to push chemo on her and Ireally don't want chemo because
I feel like it's so toxic.
But my doctor only listens tothe doctors and I don't know
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what to do to help her.
So we matched her with Darrenand Darren is helping her.
I mean, what are her goals andwhat are the things that she
needs to know in order to beinformed?
So when we talk about oncology,what your listeners have to
understand is, when you walkinto an oncology office, you're
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worth probably about an easyhalf a million dollars walking
through the doors.
Okay, that's a lot.
A bag of chemo, probably basicbasics.
In terms of the dollars abouteach bag that is hung, at least
probably minimum 40 to 50,000.
Okay, or more, depending on thetype of chemo.
(07:16):
Wow, right, that that is a lotof dollars, so it's scary for
people to go.
My doctor would never just dothis for money.
Well, look, I just I don't wantto break your heart.
I want you to be prepared tounderstanding how you can
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navigate and how you don't gettrapped by just thinking there's
one set of options for you.
See me, with my background innursing, I know that there's
more options.
I've worked in leadershipthroughout the healthcare system
.
I know the system, I know thebonuses that are paid out and
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it's okay that these hospitalsare making money.
However, I prefer that theydon't make money because of the
bag of chemo.
I want them to make moneybecause they're actually
bringing quality of care back,meaning people are actually
providing in their health andwellness.
But that's not the model ofhealthcare that we live in, so
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don't be fooled by it.
Just understand how to navigateit.
And so when we, when Darren,went through these options with
this young 40 year old and saidhey, we know that your dad is
super afraid of chemo and thathe just wants you to not do any
of it, first of all, tell uswhat do you want?
Right?
Where?
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Where is she at in her journey?
What has she heard from herdoctor and all she heard from
her doctor was she had got herwhat had happened.
And this happens every singleweek.
Okay, a woman is going intotheir doctor's office.
They do their mama the thebreast exam on maybe their
annual yearly visit.
The doctor feels something andit's like, hey, we need to get a
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mammogram.
They send the lady to go get amammogram, which is where they
press the boobs, and they'retrying to see if there's
anything you know in the boobs.
Now, with that, just for yourlisteners, I'm getting a lot of
actual things that yourlisteners can do something with
right now.
They need to go look up.
Is a mammogram for them to do?
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Because what I will tell you isfrom our amazing network of
providers that we work with.
We believe that mammogramsdon't actually have to be done
for you to know if there issomething going on within the
breast.
A mammogram squeezes the breast,which can change the cells.
(09:45):
Cancer is changing up the cells, so let's not squeeze the
breast, maybe to squeeze thecells that are potentially,
potentially cancerous cells,right, we don't want to
aggravate those upset cells.
What we want to do is identifythem proactively and go hmm,
okay, there's a change.
(10:06):
Can we get a ultrasound ortomography done which is less
invasive.
That's going to giveidentification of something
going on.
Well, traditionally, this young40-year-old she got the doctor,
felt that area on her breast,did what the doctor knows to do.
This is how doctors, typicalmedical doctors, are trained.
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A primary care doctor, a PCP?
Okay, that is taught by thetraditional system, the old
model, the Rockefeller system.
This is a lot of informationfor people, but once you
understand they're going,they're gonna go.
Well, let's go get you signedup for a mammogram.
Let's, let's get that going.
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It's gonna be covered by yourinsurance, okay, the 40 year old
says okay, thank you doctor,thank you for finding that.
Okay, the doctor did not giveher her other options.
The doctor never talks abouttomography, never talks about
non-invasive ultrasounds,doesn't talk about anything.
Okay, doesn't even talk aboutthat.
(11:11):
That area in the breast couldactually be a parasite.
Whoa, people are going wait,what, what, wait?
Parasite in the breast?
Yes, that can be present.
That could be what's detected.
Okay, now, doctors in the whitecoats are not going to
typically talk about that, buthere at Grave Care we do.
We want to inform people.
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Now, this sweet young40-year-old, she did agree to
the mammogram because she didn'tknow any other options and she
needed to know she could tellher doctor no oh right so you
can say no.
Let me just pray about this.
Let me just look at all myoptions.
First, why are we rushing andfearing people?
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Why there should be no rushing?
But oftentimes in the medicalsystem, people are rushed to
making uninformed decisionsbecause they are on the path of
the insurance protocol.
Okay, so what happens isinsurance paid for the mammogram
.
Next thing they said was oh yep, we confirm, we.
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We did find a spot that thedoctor felt now you need to go
get a biopsy.
Oh, look, we found a spot openfor you to actually go get a
biopsy done tomorrow.
This is literally what happened.
Okay, so she's like oh, I havea spot I might have breast
cancer.
I'm so nervous I need to go geta biopsy.
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A biopsy, this is an invasiveprocedure.
Freeze it People.
Do you need?
I'm questioning because I'myour patient advocate, we are
your team of advocates why do weneed to go get a biopsy?
Is there any risk to a biopsy?
Could there be needle tracking?
Needle tracking Look it up.
People can go look up thesethings.
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Go search it.
Google search Duck, duck, go.
You might be a little censoredby some of those things, but
needle tracking can happen Ifthey go in and place a needle as
a biopsy, an invasive procedure.
They're getting paid to do thisbecause it's insurance directed
care.
They go in and put the needlelet's say it is cancerous and
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they go to pull the needle out.
There can be needle trackingand if it is cancerous it could
open a whole new bag ofopportunities for the cancer to
get into the lymphatic system.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Sure and out of the spot and into the rest of the
body.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's right.
So think about this If it wascapsized, meaning controlled,
within the breast and it wascancer, we could have just done
something for that area withoutopening up the other potential
issues.
And I say potential because wedon't know if it's really going
to create needle tracking rightor open up to the lymphatic
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system.
But neither does your doctor.
Any doctor cannot guarantee tome that there is no risk.
They can't.
They would be lying to you ifthey said that oh no, there's no
big deal.
We do this all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, tell me doctor.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Tell me, doctor, exactly why did you not do a PET
scan first?
Why A PET scan is anon-invasive procedure, and the
doctor will likely say this toyou Well, that's not what we do.
First we do the mammogram andthen we go do the biopsy.
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We don't do PET scans first.
Well, but why, doctor?
Well, that's just not what wedo.
Well, can it be done?
Well, yeah, I guess it could bedone, but that's not what we do
.
Well, can it be done?
Well, I guess?
Yeah, I guess it could be done,but that's not what we do.
Okay, remember, they are taughta certain way.
Just because they're taught acertain way does not mean it's
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possible.
We know that people can go getthese things done.
Now.
People will go well, is myinsurance company going to pay
for it?
They might not.
If you go outside of insuranceprotocol model, your doctor
might go no, I'm not writingthat order.
No, that's not the way we do it.
See, in my mind, as a patientadvocate and as a woman in her
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40s, I would want to know all ofmy options up front.
Okay, 40s, I would want to knowall of my options up front,
okay.
And if I know all of my optionsup front before going to do a
mammogram, before going to do abiopsy that's invasive.
Well, I would want to know whatare the risks, what are the
benefits, and is there any otherway for me to do this safely?
(15:41):
Hmm, I will tell you.
There is.
It's uncomfortable for somepeople to question their doctor,
but we have to start askingthese questions and properly
advocating and collaboratingwith these doctors.
Okay, now it's scary for people.
They might be scared becausethey, the doctor, says well, you
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might have breast cancer.
Well, you might not either.
Not everything within thatbreast that's detected is
actually cancerous.
It could be benign, okay.
So people have to understandthis and they understand.
I am not opposed to thetraditional system.
I think the traditional system.
We should give everybody all oftheir options.
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But we have to startquestioning things different in
this parallel health care systemin order to properly make an
informed decision and not adecision based off an insurance
agenda, the money agenda.
It's just like going to a carlot.
What are they going to sell youwhen you go to the car lot?
They're going to sell you a car.
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That's the same thing thatthey're going to do in an
oncology office.
I'm not saying all oncologistsare bad.
I'm saying you have tounderstand it's a business model
and we just respect thatbusiness model.
We appreciate it.
I know that some people thathave gotten chemo and radiation
to their areas of cancer thatwas detected that it worked.
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But I'm also going to tell youthat the reoccurrence of cancer
does come back right.
The cancer is gone.
A couple of years later, whatpops up again?
Cancer again.
Why?
Because the body was notproperly addressed as the root
cause of why the cancer startedto begin with.
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What are the deficiencieswithin that person's body that
we need to handle and take careof so we can decrease the risk
of reoccurrence of cancer and toproperly support and defend the
body's immune system See chemoand radiation.
If this 40-year year old wantsto go do, she can go do because
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that's that's her decision, butshe also should be in my opinion
.
My very strong opinion is thedoctor, like what she said, the
advocate said well, if you dodecide chemo, what is the snack?
This is a simple question whatis the snack that you're going
to take when you go sit, getchemo for four to five hours a
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day, for multiple treatments forweeks, and you know what
they're taking?
Like this young gal said, shegoes.
Well, I was just going to bringmy bag of M&Ms to treatment
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with me because that's justusually what I snack on.
Okay, well, let's talk aboutsugar.
Sugar feeds cancer, right?
Why can't we maybe havesomething more healthier that's
going to actually help supportthe body and not to sabotage
even the chemo that they'regetting right?
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So these are things that wewant to support people with and
understanding, and it's a big,large conversation.
But is it possible?
It's all possible.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Wow, and I want to make it clear for listeners
because we've been on the showbefore and after the show.
I get these messages and itsays it sounds like Graith Care
is completely against themedical system.
And I said I don't believe it'sthat way.
I believe that you need toquestion everything they do,
because not everything they sayis in your better interest.
(19:25):
Am I right there?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
At 100%, absolutely.
Look, I was a pediatricintensive care nurse for years,
working at the bedside in thepediatric ICU in a very intense
environment.
I believed in what we weredoing.
However, as I've uncoveredthroughout the years, there are
more great things that I wish Iwould have known when I was in
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my original nursing, why thenursing schools didn't teach me
about vitamin D levels, aboutdeficiencies that we need to
supplement properly.
But what I've uncovered is whycan't we do it all?
Why can't we do sometraditional and alternatives
altogether?
The reason being is because weweren't taught like that.
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Nurses weren't taught like thatand doctors weren't taught like
that, weren't taught like thatand doctors weren't taught like
that.
Now I will also tell you thereare some naturopathies out there
that will debunk everything inthe traditional system.
They will flat out go no, neverdo a drug, never do any
pharmaceuticals.
And I just don't inherentlybelieve in that Because I know
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in the pediatric intensive careunit we saved lives with
traditional means of care.
So see, I'm not opposed to it.
I just look at this verylogically now going how can we
be the parallel system ofpatient advocacy that people
need worldwide?
And we're doing it every singleday for thousands of people and
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it gives people hope and apartner along this journey.
So they're.
So they're not lost andconfused.
So they understand the logicalnext steps and options that they
have.
They don't have to be scaredand if they want us to be on the
phone or in a doctor's officevisit with them, we do that and
we are not adversarial.
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We want to partner with thesepeople.
See, the oncologists weren'ttaught some of these things.
I question why they weren'ttaught, but that's okay.
I want to love people wherethey're at.
I appreciate people wherethey're at because I don't know.
I just feel like more love inthis world is a whole lot better
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than being adversarial.
Now, I'm very strong minded butand very opinionated, because I
believe in what I believe.
But that's exactly why we havedifferent advocates for
different type of needs.
So when people go to our ourgrave carecom website, they're
going to see different types ofadvocates that they're going to
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better match with.
So that's why I compare it tosomething like Matchcom, like a
dating system.
Right, we want to give you thebest date in health care to help
support you along your journey.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wow, well, that's what I reached out to this
person with and I said that tothem and they had that bit of
skepticalism and I said it'sokay to reached out to this
person with and I said that tothem and you know, they have
that bit of skepticalism and Isaid it's okay to be skeptical,
but it's also okay to askquestions.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, absolutely, and they should.
They should sit and write downthose questions.
Some people will call us andthey'll go look, this is my
current diagnosis that I have.
Here's what's going on with me.
What's your best advice thatyou can give us?
Maybe they just need an hour oftime and so we go through and
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we write out questions that wewould want them to know, right,
so that helps that person.
Then go on their journey.
Maybe that's all they need andthat's exactly what we do for
them.
See, we're not about mandates,we're not about gimmicks.
We're about true patientadvocacy.
We want to meet you whereyou're at, because it is scary.
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The big healthcare system isvery complex, it's very
controlling, it's very one-sided, whether you're on the natural
end or the traditional end, andyou're just in that phase of
like, ooh, I don't know.
I just kind of woke up to likeare vaccines all bad?
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Like what do I even do withthis?
Because my doctor still wantsto give me my yearly flu.
My doctor still is telling methat my kids have to have
vaccines before they go toschool.
But I'm kind of likequestioning do they need all of
these or do we just do some ofthem?
We have an advocate for you.
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We have an advocate that canhelp you unravel that question
and properly support you withthe research and information
that you can be educated onright.
You're not alone in this andsome people do great researching
it on their own.
I say go do it.
But at that point where you'relike, oh, I don't even know, I
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don't even know, I don't want mydoctor to be mad at me for
questioning that Well, I'll tellyou, in the States there are
bonuses for when parents thishappened to me.
I went to a great pediatrician,loved how they did care, but
when I had my come to Jesusmoment going, whoa, I don't
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think I want any more vaccinesfor my kids.
See, I had my own awakeningbecause I believed what my
nursing school taught me aboutthe pediatric schedule and I did
it.
My kids go to public school andI did it because, oh, it's that
time of year.
I got to start planning.
Parents right now are coming tothe end of school year and
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they're going.
Okay, I've got to make surethey have their wellness visit
this summer.
Okay, for next year they'regoing to need this vaccine, this
vaccine.
I don't know if I really want todo that.
What do I do?
Well, you can get a stateexemption for vaccine choice.
It's your choice to say no.
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Great exemption for vaccinechoice.
It's your choice to say no, youdon't have to do that.
We have advocates that can helpyou with that.
We can also have thatconversation with a pediatric
doctor to help properly supportand bridge that gap.
However, in my situation, when Itold the doctor we were no
longer doing any vaccinations,doctors said well then you can't
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be here in this office.
Wow, you, we, you can't come tomy practice.
I won't care for you or yourkids, because all of the kids
that come to my office have tostay on the pediatric schedule.
Well, because I know the system, I wasn't shocked and I said,
okay, thank you, doctor, and Ileft.
I didn't argue, I wasn'tshocked and I said okay, thank
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you, doctor, and I left.
I didn't argue, I didn't fightit out, I wasn't going to waste
my time.
I found a provider that doessupport vaccine choice and we
can do that.
There is proper support thatfamilies can have.
I wasn't going to waste my time.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
No matter what city you're in, no matter what state,
what part of the world, you cando this.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Every, everywhere, even the state of California.
There is a way to do this.
People just oftentimes go Ooh,that sounds like a lot Like I
don't know if I can put the timeand effort into that.
Relax, get an advocate, let'ssee if we can put a plan
together for you.
Let's get a school exemption.
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Let's do that.
People can do that.
There's a CARES Act out inCalifornia.
People go oh, california, relax,go look at Melissa Goldbeck on
our website.
She is our school advocate.
She knows how to navigate thesystem because not only does she
have a nurse background, butshe has worked in some of the
largest school systems in thestate of California that have
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the most strict guidelines.
Okay, so we don't fear this.
We help people understand theiroptions and how to handle this,
and it's exciting to givepeople that freedom of choice
and not to be feared or bulliedBecause, again, the pediatric
doctor's office.
The doctor that told me no, Iwill no longer take care of you
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or your kids in this office.
You're going to have to signthis paper and commit to the
pediatric schedule.
I know that he's getting paid alarge insurance bonus for the
percentage of kids that get thatget and stay on the pediatric
schedule.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
That that's what it is and some in some areas it's
like 40,000 per head per kidthat stay on those schedules.
That's a lot of money in apediatric office.
The financials for that officeto stay viable, with all the
overhead that that office isconsumed with people, have to go
(28:04):
.
Well, why it's because that'show the office stays afloat.
Because their overhead costsare very, very expensive to run
that office.
That's why a lot of theseproviders are actually leaving
the insurance paid system andgoing to what's called DPC
models, direct primary care, andthey are no longer dealing with
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anything in the insurance paidindustry for their people that
come to their office.
Now that limits them to thepool of people that come see
them because people wanna usetheir insurance for doctor's
office visits.
But it's a choice and it's achoice that these doctors are
willing to also go.
You know what I'm tired of thebig insurance companies
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mandating me, telling me what Ishould be able to do for my
patients, just like the wholeivermectin and hydrochloroquine.
I mean some of these greatdoctors they were getting
hammered for writing thoseorders.
Look up Dr Paul Thomas.
He out there is a pediatricoffice, his office.
(29:12):
He left that understanding ofthe insurance side because he
looked at the financials to say,hmm, this doesn't make sense,
what's going on we're gettingpaid this much money for?
This is why we are doinginsurance-driven protocol for
vaccinations.
But for him he supported thefamily that wanted vaccine
(29:38):
choice.
So all these families startedcoming to him for pediatrician
care but his office was gettinghammered because they were
losing money.
Because he didn't care whethera mom or dad wanted to do the
vaccines or not.
He left that up for that familyto decide what they wanted to
(29:59):
do.
He supported either and that'sthe same with me I support
either.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Let's paint a picture here.
I didn't mean to cut you off,but I have questions and this is
why we're here is to say, okay,if I'm just a normal Joe asking
questions, so paint the pictureof how does a doctor collect to
be on the model that theinsurance company wants to do
that.
So okay, client comes in.
Patient comes in, you're onthis deal.
Client sees a cool pay of 15,20 bucks that gets built at your
(30:28):
insurance.
Where does the rest of themoney come from and how does the
doctor get that?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, so the first thing that patients do when they
go to an office is they'll go.
Can you give me your insurancecard?
Okay, so sometimes they'reunder like a Blue Cross, a Cigna
, an Aetna, unitedhealthcarethese are all the big Bucca
plans out there and what happensis you're paying a monthly
premium And's mostly the mostpeople are.
(30:57):
Money comes out every singlemonth out of your paycheck, from
an employer plan.
So your employer is offeringyou an insurance plan through
their, through their insuranceplan.
Let's say you work for a largecorporation.
They might have a ppo plan, anHMO plan.
They all have different typesof amounts.
(31:20):
You're going to pay for co-planor deductible.
So when you go into the office,the first thing the office, the
front desk lady, goes do youhave insurance?
Can I see your card?
This is how they know how muchyour copay is.
Okay, now when I go to thedoctor any doctor I want they'll
(31:42):
go.
Can you give me your insurancecard?
No, I don't have one.
I don't pay into the system, Ido not, and everybody out there
knows you have the option toalso be cash price, cash, cash
pay, self pay.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I do that, okay.
So not everybody is paying forinsurance and I know a lot of
people these days are now going.
Well, insurance doesn't evenpay for all the alternative care
that I want.
So why am I paying a thousandbucks a month for nothing that
they cover?
Because, remember, for nothingthat they cover, because,
(32:20):
remember, insurance is onlygoing to cover what the doctor
orders.
That is related to a ICD-10code.
This is a diagnoses code.
Okay.
So let's say, you get bit by adog.
Okay, you go in the doctor says, okay, problem problem list.
Bit by a dog in the hand.
Okay, they need X treatment forthat dog bite.
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Okay, that's how insurance thensays, okay, there is the claim
related to the diagnosis.
We're gonna pay X for this out.
Okay, that's how it works.
The insurance company arepaying X based off of the type
of insurance that person paidand that's how it's paid.
That's so it.
(33:03):
So those costs can go back tothat doctor's office covering
for some of their their care.
But a lot of the reason whydoctors are leaving the
insurance industry is because,you know, people get denied
claims all the time.
We have insurance advocates onour team, so if somebody's
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struggling and being denied forsomething that should be covered
underneath their Medicare planor their commercial insurance
plan.
Well, we have Sue and Kate onour team that handle those,
because you have to understandhow do you get it covered?
If that's how you want to roll,let's get it covered.
(33:46):
Let's make sure insurance paysfor it.
I say, game on, if you're payinga thousand bucks a month, you
better get it covered, or youbetter know up front what it's
going to cost, because some ofthese people are getting bills
and they didn't even know thecost up front.
They didn't even know that thecat scan they were going to do,
that they were going to get done, they got done and insurance is
(34:08):
denying them to cover that plan.
Well, guess what I'm going totell you a cat scan cash price
might be a lot cheaper thanbeing denied under your
insurance plan and you are stuckwith that medical bill and they
will put you to medical, to, to, to claims.
They'll say, oh, they're notpaying, and that's that's where
(34:30):
people struggle.
They'll go to buy a house, oneof the largest things that when
they go to purchase a house andthey can't purchase because of
their credit, it's because oftheir medical debt.
Wow, they are, they are, theyand you know their, their credit
scoring.
So if you have unpaid debtthrough the system, through the
(34:51):
large healthcare system, you'lleven get denied even purchasing
a home because it killed yourcredit.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Okay, I got a couple for instances.
It's 32, 33 minutes into thefirst segment here.
I got to take a break and whenwe come back I'm going to throw
a couple for instances at you ofsome people I actually know who
are going through this.
Can we do a Q&A on that?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
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Welcome back to the podcast.
Today, Priscilla Romans is onthe phone and she has graced us
(36:52):
with her presence and herknowledge for her patient
advocacy company.
Now, at the break I says we aregoing to do some Q&A.
We are going to have a, forinstance.
And here it is.
Are you still with me?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I am still with you.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Okay, here we go now.
A patient, friend of mine, afriend of mine was diagnosed
with some pretty crazy stuffFour types of cancer.
I mean, he's had numerousamounts of pieces taken from him
, one in which is his stomach.
They removed his colon, theytook out, I think, some of his
(37:26):
liver, they took some of hisspleen and the doctors seemed to
think that the best course ofaction was to constantly cut
this guy apart.
Well, now he's on a feedingtube.
He's having a hard time withthat.
Now this guy is 6'4", almost300 pounds.
He's a big guy.
And now he's 6'4" and he lookslike he's got 90 pounds of
(37:53):
weight on him, which is reallysad, because I've been with this
guy my whole life Very, very,very good company, very good
people, and I've tried to steerthem to your direction before
this all happened and they justdecided to continue with the
model which you spoke of in ourfirst segment.
(38:14):
Now I don't know how I couldhave led the horse to water any
easier.
In their mind they paid forinsurance.
In their head it's like hey,look, I'm not going to spend any
more.
I think it was more sofinancial than it was medical
that they could have justreached out to somebody.
(38:34):
What would you tell thesepeople and I have another one
here, but let's do this onefirst was medical, that they
could have just reached out tosomebody.
Yeah, what would you tell thesepeople and I have another one
here, but let's do this onefirst.
What would you tell them?
The first thing you would sayto him Look, before you cut this
guy apart, what would you say?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Well, before you do any surgery, you've got to know
that it's hard to fix a botchedsurgery.
Okay, so you really do need tobe informed up front, because
not all surgeries are necessary.
Okay, and once you startcutting, they do this to for
(39:07):
cancer people all the time,where it's one surgery after
another, because it creates awhole nother set of issues.
Okay, so for this person inparticular, knowing that they
have a very complex situationgoing on, my first concern that
pops up in my mind going did thedoctor ever talk about
(39:31):
something called ctc?
That's c as in cat t, as that'sC as in cat T, as in Tom C as
in cat.
What that stands for iscirculating tumor cells, and I
know this across the board.
Many, many doctors never evenmentioned this term.
People can go look this up.
Okay, and the circulating tumorcells, and the circulating tumor
(39:55):
cells, they have detached fromthe primary tumor or from the
primary site and it's enteredthe bloodstream or the lymphatic
system.
So you've got what'scirculating, just how CTC sounds
.
It's within your whole body,right, and you've got to shut
(40:19):
that down.
If you don't shut that down,you're just it's continually,
you know, happening in your body.
You're not winning.
At that point you need to winand doctors will not even talk
about options that are beinglooked at and have been used,
because we talked to people thathave had extreme cancer.
(40:40):
There's a great on our website,there's a on our podcast.
We have a small baby podcast.
I just share different optionsfor people and you should
actually interview her too.
Her name is Diana Wright and Ifound her because she killed her
cancer that was circulatingwithin her system but her cancer
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had metastasized, meaning itwas it started as a primary site
of ovarian cancer and she hadcancer in her tumors in her
lungs, her brain her abdomen herrectum.
She had it everywhere.
This was back in 2012 when shegot diagnosed.
(41:26):
The MD Anderson doctor told herwell, diana, you've got weeks
to live.
She's like, oh no.
So the first question I wouldask anybody what is your sense
of urgency to live?
Right, because if you don'thave a sense of urgency to live,
well then just continue doingwhat you're doing.
But when you have somethinglike cancer, in all honesty,
(41:48):
you've got to fight.
You've got to fight bite,because if you don't, it's going
to win, unless you aredefending your body and you're
addressing the root cause of whythe cancer started to begin
with.
Okay, so she had surgery.
Diana had surgery.
Okay, she had a lot taken out.
Her women parts were taken outbecause cancer had invaded right
(42:12):
.
That was the decision that shemade.
She's glad she made it.
She had to stop it, but then shealso had to shut down
circulating tumor cells andthere's something that you can
do in order to take it Now inthe traditional sense.
Just like people will go lookup ivermectin or they'll look up
a fenbens protocol, they'll gooh, the Chode-Tibbins, you know,
(42:37):
did this for his lung cancer,and there's a lot of these great
options, but people don't knowthis gentleman that's dealing
with this doesn't even knowwhere to start.
He's like oh, this isoverwhelming.
Cancer alone and having thosesurgeries are so overwhelming.
(42:57):
They oftentimes feel likehopeless, they don't know where
to unravel and they're beatingthemselves up going.
Maybe I shouldn't have done allthese surgeries.
Well, guess what, here at GraveCare, it's just fine.
Whatever decisions you'vealready made, it's okay.
I believe there's hope and Ibelieve there's miracles.
(43:19):
I think there's some tougherjourneys that are out there that
have complex cancers, like thisgentleman having multiple
surgeries.
But I would simply go to himwhat is your current vitamin D
level?
Do you know how important thevitamin D level that your body
(43:41):
is at currently is so importantto your survival?
We know this because we havedocumentation to help people
understand why it's important toknow what your current vitamin
D level is.
That's a blood draw.
You can go ask your traditionaldoctor and I would challenge
anybody If your doctor is notlooking at that why, why so very
(44:05):
, very simple, basic, and wewould just want to make sure
those fundamentals, the basicfoundations, he knows Right, and
if he doesn't want to do all ofit, that's fine too.
He knows right, and if hedoesn't want to do all of it,
that's fine too.
But I would challenge anybodyIf you've got cancer and you
have a sense of urgency to livebecause you've got kids,
grandkids, a wife, if you've gotsomething to live for, then
(44:29):
let's do it.
Today's your day.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
It originally started with colon cancer.
He had one of these prep testsdone where you do, at home, and
send it in, and it monitored itat zero issues.
Then he went in for an actualcolostomy and he says oh no, no,
that didn't work.
Well, it all started from there.
Then, once they started cuttinghim apart and I would imagine
(44:55):
this is what our friends thinkit's like if they did all this,
why didn't they see the othercancers at that time?
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Happens all the time.
I'm going to ask, I would goback and question did they even
do a PET scan that is anon-invasive test first to see
what lit up on that full bodyPET scan.
And I almost guarantee you theanswer that will come back
because we see this and do thisevery single day.
(45:24):
I'm going to almost guaranteethey never did a PET scan to
begin with Because, remember, wego back to our original
situation.
Cancer is a changing of thecells.
If you go in slice and dice anddo procedures like biopsies,
you have the potential to changethe cells and once you change
(45:45):
the cells, there's anopportunity for needle tracking
and to spread to the lymphaticsystem.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I found it awful funny that, again, no one said
nothing about the stomach issuethen, or about the spleen issue
or the liver issue and I'm beingvery vague because I was not
part of what they took out.
But their answer every time wasremoval, removal, removal.
And you're like you know, holdon.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
And I implored them to reach out to you and I said
look, you should at least talkto these people.
I think it's money well spent.
And they, they decided to dowhat they did and I respect that
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Absolutely.
We are not a fit for everybody,and that's cool.
We are here for when peoplewant to get help, want to know
all their information.
But see, we don't live in aspace of fear.
Through this medical freedommovement, we don't.
We want to provide that hopeand love, because it's scary
getting a cancer diagnosis.
It is so scary and we shouldnot be making decisions based
(46:56):
off of emotions, right?
And that's why these people doneed a patient advocate who
cares and who can give them asecond set of eyes.
Or I say, hey, we've got yourblind spot here.
These are things that we know,that we know they're not going
to tell you, right?
So it's so important to makingsure he's properly supported and
(47:20):
we love him for whatever he'sdecided in his life.
I don't want anybody to die.
I know we're all eventuallygoing to die, but shoot while
I'm here.
I want to live and I want tolive well.
I don't want to be sick andconnected to this big, bloated
healthcare system that wants tokeep me sick and dependent.
I want to live a life offreedom, and what else?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
do we have if we don't have our health Right?
Well, if you didn't know, I hadChristine.
She was going to send me outsome W-9s and I says hold on
here, before we do all that,that, no matter who I interview,
if I'm with you and there's aHuttCast promo that we can use
to have your advocates, use as adiscount code HuttCast that
(48:07):
you're going to use them forwhatever you guys want to in
your I don't know, give it awayto someone who needs it.
I want you to make sure you allknow that it.
I want you to make sure you allknow that.
We've played quarterback, nowlet's play defense.
(48:29):
And I have another client, aclient of mine, who was in the
car business.
He has got a mother and it'snot just, it's the brother, and
the brother told me the storyand I said hold on here, you
need to start at the beginning.
Well, my had a, a hip.
She had it replaced.
It becomes sepsis, the boltcomes through and wore through
the bone which worked into amuscle.
I mean all kinds ofcomplications to this surgery.
(48:51):
I mean more than just you wouldever ever hear.
She's in her late 80s, early,early 90s, I think, if I
remember right.
And it's kind of a toughsituation.
They're on track now, but theyhad to raise the roof and raise
holy heck.
But they're looking at a how doyou put it Someone's
(49:13):
responsible for these decisionsand if they need someone to back
them in a spot where, hey, thisdoesn't make sense, this
doesn't make sense, does thatsomething Graith Care provides?
Because now you're talkinglitigate and I don't know if
that's kind of a thing you guysdo.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
We do.
We have a great advocate thatdoes case reviews, and what that
means is we help the clientmake sure they do have all of
their medical records and evenimages, which are very, very
valuable, and we collect thatinformation, we put it together
(49:52):
and we review it.
We have one case right now Ouradvocate is working on that has
over 30,000 pages of medicalrecords to come through.
The family believes that thehospital provided care that
wasn't necessary, that killedtheir loved one, and it was a
(50:17):
very, very difficult situation.
You can't litigate bad, crappycare.
You have to look for merit inthese cases.
That would stick in our opinion, and you also have the issue of
things like the PrEP Act.
So we have closely alignedourselves with attorneys that
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can take cases when we findareas that can be moved forward.
We not only have summarizedthese and created a dossier and
teed these up to attorneysgroups that take them, but they
are currently moving through thelitigation process because of
the work that we have done.
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They came to us first.
We put together the summary andfound all the information
highlighted.
This looks like something thatcould be medical malpractice In
our opinion.
We are not attorneys.
Okay, I want to make sure yourlisteners know that we are not
attorneys, we are not doctors.
We are a team of patientadvocates that have probably I
(51:22):
need to probably go through theyears of experience, but we we
probably have well over 250 plusyears or more of experience as
a full team, and so you'regetting somebody that's very
experienced, knows how to gothrough case reviews, knows how
to really investigate the case,to go.
Hmm, this looks like an area ofconcern where there was
(51:46):
something called a sentinelevent that happened in the
hospital or in this a sentinelevent people can go look up.
It's a Jayco accreditation thatthese large institutions, health
care centers, they get what'scalled magnet status, which is a
money thing.
But if there's a Sentinel eventthat isn't properly addressed
(52:09):
and they try to cover it upwhich happens well they can.
Actually, it can also cause awhole lot of issues because they
covered up something or theydidn't do something that put the
patient in danger, createdinjury and harm or even death.
(52:32):
And we are excited that we arepart of this mission to partner
with our clients to go you knowwhat.
If you need that, we can dothat for you and that's why we
have a particular advocate matchfor those type of needs.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Wow, there's so much there isn't there yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
And to think we had to fight this hard for someone
who's trying to help us.
Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, mm-hmm.
It's incredible.
There's issues where the doctorhas literally written in their
documentation, in the electronicmedical record, that there was
X thing to look out for.
For example, watch out for aperforated bowel.
(53:17):
Okay, the bowel.
You know, making sure that thebowel is running smoothly.
Person had some bowel issues andit looked like potentially
there was maybe some bowelissues that they really needed
to monitor.
Okay, patient was hence inhours, hours meaning like 36
(53:37):
plus hours of pain.
The hospital staff and nurseskept saying no, no, you're just
really anxious, let's give yousome medication for anxiety.
You're just anxious, there'snothing going on.
Then, the next thing, you knowwell, they actually.
Then, the next thing, you knowwell, they actually perked their
(54:00):
bowel Perforation.
Okay, that is not a goodsituation in the bowels.
Okay, this person got infected,had weeks and weeks and weeks,
which turned into months ofsickness that the hospital could
never get ahead of to take careof this gentleman Never,
(54:20):
because they didn't payattention to why he was in pain
in the first place.
That is a big issue, a bigissue.
This wife no longer has ahusband.
That was the provider of thefamily.
Okay, lost everything Lost herhusband, lost her best friend
why the hospital did not dotheir due diligence per the
(54:43):
standard of care that theyshould have done.
They ignored him and it wasdocumented.
Documentation means everythingto these attorneys.
See, we don't go off ofsubjective.
We don't go off of oh, I didn'tlike that doctor.
He didn't talk to me very nice.
Yeah, that's just bad, crappycare.
We see that all the time.
What do we have?
That is fact that we need tohold these hospitals accountable
(55:06):
for, because they areinstitutions that we rely on
every single day to help us inthose acute care needs.
We need good hospitals.
We need these hospitals to bedoing exactly what they should
be doing, because there's a timeand a place to use them.
But if you don't know how touse them in the beginning, shoot
, I'm going to just tell youraudience.
You could be mightily screwedif you don't understand what
(55:29):
you're doing.
That's exactly why you need toknow grade care.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Or someone like you.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yeah, absolutely, if you know somebody that's like it
, game on.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Do it.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
You need it.
You need a great patientadvocate.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, and I become more and more of a fan of that
as I listen to you guys and weinterview and I listen to other
people talk and it makes sense.
I mean I don't go to themechanic and say, hey, what
should I do for my brainaneurysm?
And vice versa.
You don't go to the brainaneurysm guy and say what should
I do for my ignition system?
It's just something that don'thappen.
(56:03):
So we have to realize our ownlimitations before we go out and
say well, I think I know what'sbest and I think my doctor
knows what's best.
And it's not saying he doesn't.
It just means that you need asecond opinion and not from the
same system.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yes, that's exactly right.
You, you hit it, you're, youexactly have got this.
You understand with that, it's.
It's a second set of eyes, anddo you have somebody that's
covering your blind side?
What is, what's the blind partsof what you need to know in
order to make a truly informeddecision?
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Whole lot going on here, isn't there?
Speaker 4 (56:45):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
And you don't want to take the human out of medical
care.
But sometimes you just got topump those bricks and say am I
getting what I need here?
And that's what you guys arefor?
Speaker 4 (56:59):
That's right.
Well, we love people.
We love, we love the mission.
My team of advocates are thebest of the best.
I even have advocates for myown family, because they don't
listen to me.
They would rather just talk toan advocate on my team that
tells you that, tells you familydynamics, right there.
But it's awesome to seemiracles happening, people
(57:20):
getting off of thepharmaceutical drugs and living
a life full of freedom.
I mean, didn't we get, didn'twe get all taught growing up
don't do drugs yeah, I thinkthere's a.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
There's a little blurry line there, though.
There's for recreation versuswhatever I mean, and in
minnesota they just open up the.
They open up the pot law thisyear yeah and we're an ffl.
So when you talk to thesepeople they say are you, are you
under municipality of adoctor's orders to have these,
are you addicted to it?
And they have to answer on afederal format, whether they're
(57:54):
lying or not.
I mean, it's not my felony,it's theirs, so felony.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
It's theirs.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
So if you got a pot card and you answer no to that
question no, I'm not addicted toit, I take it occasionally.
I didn't know where to begin tosay that.
So when the feds start digginginto that one, we'll see how
that goes in life.
But yeah, medical is adifferent gig.
And if you're in painucoma,whatever it is, and you got a
pod card, well then you can'tbuy guns wow, yeah, that's it,
(58:21):
that's tough.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
The federal government should not be in the
way of um your, your medicalfreedom.
It is not a good, it's that'sjust.
In my belief system, we shouldnot be having government control
, mandate or course people forwhat they should be doing for
their medical freedom at allperiod.
(58:42):
Bad, slippery slope.
That is a very socialized model.
And if you do that, pleaseremember, once they start
dictating which they have verycleverly in a lot of ways, and
they also have the control ofthe electronic medical record,
the EMR system, they can startmandating a lot of things how
(59:04):
much sugar, how many sodas?
Oh, you haven't gottenvaccinations, what could they do
with that?
Right.
And if you didn't getvaccinations, oh, what could
they shut off?
Right, there's a lot of controlfactors.
So you do not want the federalgovernment or any government
institution in the way of yourmedical freedom.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Let's plug the company one more time.
Could you do that for us?
Speaker 4 (59:31):
So what now?
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Let's say the company name.
How to get ahold of you allthat?
Just go ahead and plug it.
Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yeah, greatcare.
Just go to our website,greatcarecom.
That's G-R-A-I-T-H careC-A-R-Ecom.
When you go there, check outour team of advocates.
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Well, I feel like people go.
This is just another business.
What I want your listeners toknow is that my heart in
starting Grave Care in March of2020, it was definitely
God-directed and one of thethings that always challenged me
that I grew up I grew up in theMidwest, my dad's a minister,
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my mom was a nurse, and peoplecan look at my story on the
about page on our website.
I would encourage people to getto know why I did what I did
and who my grandparents, youknow, were and are.
My grandmother was a lieutenantnurse in the Army and my
grandfather fought in the Battleof the Bulge and she took care
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of him, and I believe thatfighting for people's freedom is
a part of my just how I grew up, and my parents just I don't
know they really helped meuncover, you know, my nursing
journey, in a way, to going.
There can be a lot more we cando for people, and God just
opened up this opportunity.
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And what's so great about GraveCare is even people who call
that are in financial hardship.
We have what's called GratefulGiving.
It's a nonprofit that I alsorun and if they are in financial
hardship, they fill out a formthat says hey, this is my
situation, I do need an advocate.
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We provide advocacy to hundredsand hundreds of people that are
in financial hardships today,meaning our seniors, our
veterans, our single moms anddads out there that are
struggling to put food on theirtable.
We provide them donated patientadvocacy time.
So see, I want to take care ofmy advocates and pay them for
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our services or somebody thatcan't.
Through our donations, I notonly want to serve and help my
team of advocates make sure theycan take care of their families
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So that's very near and dear,because I think there's a lot of
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You know what, if somebody doescome to us and they really are
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Some of these seniors arebarely getting by with the
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We want to be that arm for them, we want to be that second set
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Humanity matters.
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are reliant on the big, bloatedhealthcare system and I just
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Welcome back to the podcast today, grace Care.
Priscilla Romans is on thephone with us.
Priscilla, are you there?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I am here and I am excited to share what is going
on with patient advocacy.
People are just loving themedical freedom movement.
They are getting in control oftheir health care, so it's
really exciting to see what thisparallel health care system is
doing.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Right, well, again, it's been kind of crazy out
there, so let's jump in to tellus what's new out in the world,
with you.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Well, you know, every single day we're getting phone
calls for help from people thatare just struggling and drowning
in the sick care system.
People are really wanting tothink about how can they get
healthier without pharmaceuticalmedications, maybe, how can
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they avoid a traditional surgery, how can they get their
cholesterol under control, howthey can actually take care of
their vaccine injury.
These are some of the thingsthat we get calls on every
single day, and what happens iswhen those people reach out to
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us, we want to match them to thebest fit advocate for their
needs.
So it's kind of like matchcomYou're looking for a great date,
you put your profile out thereand you're like this is what I'm
looking for.
You call us and let us knowwhat you're looking for and we
match you with one of ouradvocates that has amazing
experience for your needs.
Because we're not only justhelping adults.
(03:47):
We have pediatrics, neonatalbabies, we have seniors in
assisted livings and nursinghomes that are struggling.
Their families are frustratedand we are helping walk through
and navigate those waters astheir team for patient advocacy.
So it's huge, it's absolutelymassive what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And last time we talked, I think you had what six
or eight advocates.
Where are you at now?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
We're at 20 plus advocates.
They are all across the states.
They are hand picked, meaningthey have to have specific
experience within their niche inorder to take on client needs.
For example, we have Chris thathas a naturopathic background.
(04:35):
She believes that drugs are notthe answer.
So, like a client she recentlygot, they came in and said look,
I'm on stat medications, I'm onblood pressure medications.
I don't want to be on thesedrugs because I feel like some
of these drugs are actuallygiving me really bad side
(04:57):
effects.
And so, because that's what theperson is calling us needing,
we match them to Chris.
Because that's what the personis calling us meeting, we match
them to Chris.
Chris can help them withunderstanding their options and
how to help work and collaboratewith their doctor.
See, this is a team approach.
We believe that people justoftentimes don't know what to
(05:23):
say and deal with their doctor,and so by giving them the
education and the understandinghow to proceed and options that
they've never even been told, itopens up the door to
possibilities.
We've got Darren on our team andanybody can go to our great
care website.
That's G-R-A-I-T-H care,c-a-r-ecom.
(05:44):
All of our advocates are on thewebsite.
Darren is on board and he has atraditional oncology background
, years and years of experience.
And what's really cool is we'vegot clients that are coming to
us with new cancer diagnoses.
We just had a young 40-year-oldget diagnosed with breast
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cancer.
Her dad has gotten care from usand his dad reached back out to
us and said hey, my daughterjust got diagnosed with breast
cancer and I am really, reallyscared that the oncologist is
going to push chemo on her and Ireally don't want chemo because
I feel like it's so toxic.
But my doctor only listens tothe doctors and I don't know
(06:32):
what to do to help her.
So we matched her with Darrenand Darren is helping her.
I mean, what are her goals andwhat are the things that she
needs to know in order to beinformed?
So when we talk about oncology,what your listeners have to
understand is, when you walkinto an oncology office, you're
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worth probably about an easyhalf a million dollars walking
through the doors.
Okay, that's a lot.
A bag of chemo, probably basicbasics.
In terms of the dollars abouteach bag that is hung, at least
probably minimum 40 to 50,000.
Okay, or more, depending on thetype of chemo.
(07:16):
Wow, right, that that is a lotof dollars, so it's scary for
people to go.
My doctor would never just dothis for money.
Well, look, I just I don't wantto break your heart.
I want you to be prepared tounderstanding how you can
(07:37):
navigate and how you don't gettrapped by just thinking there's
one set of options for you.
See me, with my background innursing, I know that there's
more options.
I've worked in leadershipthroughout the healthcare system
.
I know the system, I know thebonuses that are paid out and
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it's okay that these hospitalsare making money.
However, I prefer that theydon't make money because of the
bag of chemo.
I want them to make moneybecause they're actually
bringing quality of care back,meaning people are actually
providing in their health andwellness.
But that's not the model ofhealthcare that we live in, so
(08:19):
don't be fooled by it.
Just understand how to navigateit.
And so when we, when Darren,went through these options with
this young 40 year old and saidhey, we know that your dad is
super afraid of chemo and thathe just wants you to not do any
of it, first of all, tell uswhat do you want?
Right?
Where?
(08:39):
Where is she at in her journey?
What has she heard from herdoctor and all she heard from
her doctor was she had got herwhat had happened.
And this happens every singleweek.
Okay, a woman is going intotheir doctor's office.
They do their mama the thebreast exam on maybe their
annual yearly visit.
The doctor feels something andit's like, hey, we need to get a
(09:03):
mammogram.
They send the lady to go get amammogram, which is where they
press the boobs, and they'retrying to see if there's
anything you know in the boobs.
Now, with that, just for yourlisteners, I'm getting a lot of
actual things that yourlisteners can do something with
right now.
They need to go look up.
Is a mammogram for them to do?
(09:25):
Because what I will tell you isfrom our amazing network of
providers that we work with.
We believe that mammogramsdon't actually have to be done
for you to know if there issomething going on within the
breast.
A mammogram squeezes the breast,which can change the cells.
(09:45):
Cancer is changing up the cells, so let's not squeeze the
breast, maybe to squeeze thecells that are potentially,
potentially cancerous cells,right, we don't want to
aggravate those upset cells.
What we want to do is identifythem proactively and go hmm,
okay, there's a change.
(10:06):
Can we get a ultrasound ortomography done which is less
invasive.
That's going to giveidentification of something
going on.
Well, traditionally, this young40-year-old she got the doctor,
felt that area on her breast,did what the doctor knows to do.
This is how doctors, typicalmedical doctors, are trained.
(10:29):
A primary care doctor, a PCP?
Okay, that is taught by thetraditional system, the old
model, the Rockefeller system.
This is a lot of informationfor people, but once you
understand they're going,they're gonna go.
Well, let's go get you signedup for a mammogram.
Let's, let's get that going.
(10:50):
It's gonna be covered by yourinsurance, okay, the 40 year old
says okay, thank you doctor,thank you for finding that.
Okay, the doctor did not giveher her other options.
The doctor never talks abouttomography, never talks about
non-invasive ultrasounds,doesn't talk about anything.
Okay, doesn't even talk aboutthat.
(11:11):
That area in the breast couldactually be a parasite.
Whoa, people are going wait,what, what, wait?
Parasite in the breast?
Yes, that can be present.
That could be what's detected.
Okay, now, doctors in the whitecoats are not going to
typically talk about that, buthere at Grave Care we do.
We want to inform people.
(11:32):
Now, this sweet young40-year-old, she did agree to
the mammogram because she didn'tknow any other options and she
needed to know she could tellher doctor no oh right so you
can say no.
Let me just pray about this.
Let me just look at all myoptions.
First, why are we rushing andfearing people?
(11:52):
Why there should be no rushing?
But oftentimes in the medicalsystem, people are rushed to
making uninformed decisionsbecause they are on the path of
the insurance protocol.
Okay, so what happens isinsurance paid for the mammogram
.
Next thing they said was oh yep, we confirm, we.
(12:13):
We did find a spot that thedoctor felt now you need to go
get a biopsy.
Oh, look, we found a spot openfor you to actually go get a
biopsy done tomorrow.
This is literally what happened.
Okay, so she's like oh, I havea spot I might have breast
cancer.
I'm so nervous I need to go geta biopsy.
(12:34):
A biopsy, this is an invasiveprocedure.
Freeze it People.
Do you need?
I'm questioning because I'myour patient advocate, we are
your team of advocates why do weneed to go get a biopsy?
Is there any risk to a biopsy?
Could there be needle tracking?
Needle tracking Look it up.
People can go look up thesethings.
(12:55):
Go search it.
Google search Duck, duck, go.
You might be a little censoredby some of those things, but
needle tracking can happen Ifthey go in and place a needle as
a biopsy, an invasive procedure.
They're getting paid to do thisbecause it's insurance directed
care.
They go in and put the needlelet's say it is cancerous and
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they go to pull the needle out.
There can be needle trackingand if it is cancerous it could
open a whole new bag ofopportunities for the cancer to
get into the lymphatic system.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Sure and out of the spot and into the rest of the
body.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's right.
So think about this If it wascapsized, meaning controlled,
within the breast and it wascancer, we could have just done
something for that area withoutopening up the other potential
issues.
And I say potential because wedon't know if it's really going
to create needle tracking rightor open up to the lymphatic
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system.
But neither does your doctor.
Any doctor cannot guarantee tome that there is no risk.
They can't.
They would be lying to you ifthey said that oh no, there's no
big deal.
We do this all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, tell me doctor.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Tell me, doctor, exactly why did you not do a PET
scan first?
Why A PET scan is anon-invasive procedure, and the
doctor will likely say this toyou Well, that's not what we do.
First we do the mammogram andthen we go do the biopsy.
(14:34):
We don't do PET scans first.
Well, but why, doctor?
Well, that's just not what wedo.
Well, can it be done?
Well, yeah, I guess it could bedone, but that's not what we do
.
Well, can it be done?
Well, I guess?
Yeah, I guess it could be done,but that's not what we do.
Okay, remember, they are taughta certain way.
Just because they're taught acertain way does not mean it's
(14:54):
possible.
We know that people can go getthese things done.
Now.
People will go well, is myinsurance company going to pay
for it?
They might not.
If you go outside of insuranceprotocol model, your doctor
might go no, I'm not writingthat order.
No, that's not the way we do it.
See, in my mind, as a patientadvocate and as a woman in her
(15:19):
40s, I would want to know all ofmy options up front.
Okay, 40s, I would want to knowall of my options up front,
okay.
And if I know all of my optionsup front before going to do a
mammogram, before going to do abiopsy that's invasive.
Well, I would want to know whatare the risks, what are the
benefits, and is there any otherway for me to do this safely?
(15:41):
Hmm, I will tell you.
There is.
It's uncomfortable for somepeople to question their doctor,
but we have to start askingthese questions and properly
advocating and collaboratingwith these doctors.
Okay, now it's scary for people.
They might be scared becausethey, the doctor, says well, you
(16:02):
might have breast cancer.
Well, you might not either.
Not everything within thatbreast that's detected is
actually cancerous.
It could be benign, okay.
So people have to understandthis and they understand.
I am not opposed to thetraditional system.
I think the traditional system.
We should give everybody all oftheir options.
(16:22):
But we have to startquestioning things different in
this parallel health care systemin order to properly make an
informed decision and not adecision based off an insurance
agenda, the money agenda.
It's just like going to a carlot.
What are they going to sell youwhen you go to the car lot?
They're going to sell you a car.
(16:43):
That's the same thing thatthey're going to do in an
oncology office.
I'm not saying all oncologistsare bad.
I'm saying you have tounderstand it's a business model
and we just respect thatbusiness model.
We appreciate it.
I know that some people thathave gotten chemo and radiation
to their areas of cancer thatwas detected that it worked.
(17:05):
But I'm also going to tell youthat the reoccurrence of cancer
does come back right.
The cancer is gone.
A couple of years later, whatpops up again?
Cancer again.
Why?
Because the body was notproperly addressed as the root
cause of why the cancer startedto begin with.
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What are the deficiencieswithin that person's body that
we need to handle and take careof so we can decrease the risk
of reoccurrence of cancer and toproperly support and defend the
body's immune system See chemoand radiation.
If this 40-year year old wantsto go do, she can go do because
(17:48):
that's that's her decision, butshe also should be in my opinion
.
My very strong opinion is thedoctor, like what she said, the
advocate said well, if you dodecide chemo, what is the snack?
This is a simple question whatis the snack that you're going
to take when you go sit, getchemo for four to five hours a
(18:10):
day, for multiple treatments forweeks, and you know what
they're taking?
Like this young gal said, shegoes.
Well, I was just going to bringmy bag of M&Ms to treatment
(18:32):
with me because that's justusually what I snack on.
Okay, well, let's talk aboutsugar.
Sugar feeds cancer, right?
Why can't we maybe havesomething more healthier that's
going to actually help supportthe body and not to sabotage
even the chemo that they'regetting right?
(18:54):
So these are things that wewant to support people with and
understanding, and it's a big,large conversation.
But is it possible?
It's all possible.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Wow, and I want to make it clear for listeners
because we've been on the showbefore and after the show.
I get these messages and itsays it sounds like Graith Care
is completely against themedical system.
And I said I don't believe it'sthat way.
I believe that you need toquestion everything they do,
because not everything they sayis in your better interest.
(19:25):
Am I right there?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
At 100%, absolutely.
Look, I was a pediatricintensive care nurse for years,
working at the bedside in thepediatric ICU in a very intense
environment.
I believed in what we weredoing.
However, as I've uncoveredthroughout the years, there are
more great things that I wish Iwould have known when I was in
(19:48):
my original nursing, why thenursing schools didn't teach me
about vitamin D levels, aboutdeficiencies that we need to
supplement properly.
But what I've uncovered is whycan't we do it all?
Why can't we do sometraditional and alternatives
altogether?
The reason being is because weweren't taught like that.
(20:10):
Nurses weren't taught like thatand doctors weren't taught like
that, weren't taught like thatand doctors weren't taught like
that.
Now I will also tell you thereare some naturopathies out there
that will debunk everything inthe traditional system.
They will flat out go no, neverdo a drug, never do any
pharmaceuticals.
And I just don't inherentlybelieve in that Because I know
(20:31):
in the pediatric intensive careunit we saved lives with
traditional means of care.
So see, I'm not opposed to it.
I just look at this verylogically now going how can we
be the parallel system ofpatient advocacy that people
need worldwide?
And we're doing it every singleday for thousands of people and
(20:53):
it gives people hope and apartner along this journey.
So they're.
So they're not lost andconfused.
So they understand the logicalnext steps and options that they
have.
They don't have to be scaredand if they want us to be on the
phone or in a doctor's officevisit with them, we do that and
we are not adversarial.
(21:13):
We want to partner with thesepeople.
See, the oncologists weren'ttaught some of these things.
I question why they weren'ttaught, but that's okay.
I want to love people wherethey're at.
I appreciate people wherethey're at because I don't know.
I just feel like more love inthis world is a whole lot better
(21:35):
than being adversarial.
Now, I'm very strong minded butand very opinionated, because I
believe in what I believe.
But that's exactly why we havedifferent advocates for
different type of needs.
So when people go to our ourgrave carecom website, they're
going to see different types ofadvocates that they're going to
(21:56):
better match with.
So that's why I compare it tosomething like Matchcom, like a
dating system.
Right, we want to give you thebest date in health care to help
support you along your journey.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wow, well, that's what I reached out to this
person with and I said that tothem and they had that bit of
skepticalism and I said it'sokay to reached out to this
person with and I said that tothem and you know, they have
that bit of skepticalism and Isaid it's okay to be skeptical,
but it's also okay to askquestions.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, absolutely, and they should.
They should sit and write downthose questions.
Some people will call us andthey'll go look, this is my
current diagnosis that I have.
Here's what's going on with me.
What's your best advice thatyou can give us?
Maybe they just need an hour oftime and so we go through and
(22:43):
we write out questions that wewould want them to know, right,
so that helps that person.
Then go on their journey.
Maybe that's all they need andthat's exactly what we do for
them.
See, we're not about mandates,we're not about gimmicks.
We're about true patientadvocacy.
We want to meet you whereyou're at, because it is scary.
(23:05):
The big healthcare system isvery complex, it's very
controlling, it's very one-sided, whether you're on the natural
end or the traditional end, andyou're just in that phase of
like, ooh, I don't know.
I just kind of woke up to likeare vaccines all bad?
(23:25):
Like what do I even do withthis?
Because my doctor still wantsto give me my yearly flu.
My doctor still is telling methat my kids have to have
vaccines before they go toschool.
But I'm kind of likequestioning do they need all of
these or do we just do some ofthem?
We have an advocate for you.
(23:48):
We have an advocate that canhelp you unravel that question
and properly support you withthe research and information
that you can be educated onright.
You're not alone in this andsome people do great researching
it on their own.
I say go do it.
But at that point where you'relike, oh, I don't even know, I
(24:08):
don't even know, I don't want mydoctor to be mad at me for
questioning that Well, I'll tellyou, in the States there are
bonuses for when parents thishappened to me.
I went to a great pediatrician,loved how they did care, but
when I had my come to Jesusmoment going, whoa, I don't
(24:32):
think I want any more vaccinesfor my kids.
See, I had my own awakeningbecause I believed what my
nursing school taught me aboutthe pediatric schedule and I did
it.
My kids go to public school andI did it because, oh, it's that
time of year.
I got to start planning.
Parents right now are coming tothe end of school year and
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they're going.
Okay, I've got to make surethey have their wellness visit
this summer.
Okay, for next year they'regoing to need this vaccine, this
vaccine.
I don't know if I really want todo that.
What do I do?
Well, you can get a stateexemption for vaccine choice.
It's your choice to say no.
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Great exemption for vaccinechoice.
It's your choice to say no, youdon't have to do that.
We have advocates that can helpyou with that.
We can also have thatconversation with a pediatric
doctor to help properly supportand bridge that gap.
However, in my situation, when Itold the doctor we were no
longer doing any vaccinations,doctors said well then you can't
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be here in this office.
Wow, you, we, you can't come tomy practice.
I won't care for you or yourkids, because all of the kids
that come to my office have tostay on the pediatric schedule.
Well, because I know the system, I wasn't shocked and I said,
okay, thank you, doctor, and Ileft.
I didn't argue, I wasn'tshocked and I said okay, thank
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you, doctor, and I left.
I didn't argue, I didn't fightit out, I wasn't going to waste
my time.
I found a provider that doessupport vaccine choice and we
can do that.
There is proper support thatfamilies can have.
I wasn't going to waste my time.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
No matter what city you're in, no matter what state,
what part of the world, you cando this.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Every, everywhere, even the state of California.
There is a way to do this.
People just oftentimes go Ooh,that sounds like a lot Like I
don't know if I can put the timeand effort into that.
Relax, get an advocate, let'ssee if we can put a plan
together for you.
Let's get a school exemption.
(26:38):
Let's do that.
People can do that.
There's a CARES Act out inCalifornia.
People go oh, california, relax,go look at Melissa Goldbeck on
our website.
She is our school advocate.
She knows how to navigate thesystem because not only does she
have a nurse background, butshe has worked in some of the
largest school systems in thestate of California that have
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the most strict guidelines.
Okay, so we don't fear this.
We help people understand theiroptions and how to handle this,
and it's exciting to givepeople that freedom of choice
and not to be feared or bulliedBecause, again, the pediatric
doctor's office.
The doctor that told me no, Iwill no longer take care of you
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or your kids in this office.
You're going to have to signthis paper and commit to the
pediatric schedule.
I know that he's getting paid alarge insurance bonus for the
percentage of kids that get thatget and stay on the pediatric
schedule.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
That that's what it is and some in some areas it's
like 40,000 per head per kidthat stay on those schedules.
That's a lot of money in apediatric office.
The financials for that officeto stay viable, with all the
overhead that that office isconsumed with people, have to go
(28:04):
.
Well, why it's because that'show the office stays afloat.
Because their overhead costsare very, very expensive to run
that office.
That's why a lot of theseproviders are actually leaving
the insurance paid system andgoing to what's called DPC
models, direct primary care, andthey are no longer dealing with
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anything in the insurance paidindustry for their people that
come to their office.
Now that limits them to thepool of people that come see
them because people wanna usetheir insurance for doctor's
office visits.
But it's a choice and it's achoice that these doctors are
willing to also go.
You know what I'm tired of thebig insurance companies
(28:49):
mandating me, telling me what Ishould be able to do for my
patients, just like the wholeivermectin and hydrochloroquine.
I mean some of these greatdoctors they were getting
hammered for writing thoseorders.
Look up Dr Paul Thomas.
He out there is a pediatricoffice, his office.
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He left that understanding ofthe insurance side because he
looked at the financials to say,hmm, this doesn't make sense,
what's going on we're gettingpaid this much money for?
This is why we are doinginsurance-driven protocol for
vaccinations.
But for him he supported thefamily that wanted vaccine
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choice.
So all these families startedcoming to him for pediatrician
care but his office was gettinghammered because they were
losing money.
Because he didn't care whethera mom or dad wanted to do the
vaccines or not.
He left that up for that familyto decide what they wanted to
(29:59):
do.
He supported either and that'sthe same with me I support
either.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Let's paint a picture here.
I didn't mean to cut you off,but I have questions and this is
why we're here is to say, okay,if I'm just a normal Joe asking
questions, so paint the pictureof how does a doctor collect to
be on the model that theinsurance company wants to do
that.
So okay, client comes in.
Patient comes in, you're onthis deal.
Client sees a cool pay of 15,20 bucks that gets built at your
(30:28):
insurance.
Where does the rest of themoney come from and how does the
doctor get that?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, so the first thing that patients do when they
go to an office is they'll go.
Can you give me your insurancecard?
Okay, so sometimes they'reunder like a Blue Cross, a Cigna
, an Aetna, unitedhealthcarethese are all the big Bucca
plans out there and what happensis you're paying a monthly
premium And's mostly the mostpeople are.
(30:57):
Money comes out every singlemonth out of your paycheck, from
an employer plan.
So your employer is offeringyou an insurance plan through
their, through their insuranceplan.
Let's say you work for a largecorporation.
They might have a ppo plan, anHMO plan.
They all have different typesof amounts.
(31:20):
You're going to pay for co-planor deductible.
So when you go into the office,the first thing the office, the
front desk lady, goes do youhave insurance?
Can I see your card?
This is how they know how muchyour copay is.
Okay, now when I go to thedoctor any doctor I want they'll
(31:42):
go.
Can you give me your insurancecard?
No, I don't have one.
I don't pay into the system, Ido not, and everybody out there
knows you have the option toalso be cash price, cash, cash
pay, self pay.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I do that, okay.
So not everybody is paying forinsurance and I know a lot of
people these days are now going.
Well, insurance doesn't evenpay for all the alternative care
that I want.
So why am I paying a thousandbucks a month for nothing that
they cover?
Because, remember, for nothingthat they cover, because,
(32:20):
remember, insurance is onlygoing to cover what the doctor
orders.
That is related to a ICD-10code.
This is a diagnoses code.
Okay.
So let's say, you get bit by adog.
Okay, you go in the doctor says, okay, problem problem list.
Bit by a dog in the hand.
Okay, they need X treatment forthat dog bite.
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Okay, that's how insurance thensays, okay, there is the claim
related to the diagnosis.
We're gonna pay X for this out.
Okay, that's how it works.
The insurance company arepaying X based off of the type
of insurance that person paidand that's how it's paid.
That's so it.
(33:03):
So those costs can go back tothat doctor's office covering
for some of their their care.
But a lot of the reason whydoctors are leaving the
insurance industry is because,you know, people get denied
claims all the time.
We have insurance advocates onour team, so if somebody's
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struggling and being denied forsomething that should be covered
underneath their Medicare planor their commercial insurance
plan.
Well, we have Sue and Kate onour team that handle those,
because you have to understandhow do you get it covered?
If that's how you want to roll,let's get it covered.
(33:46):
Let's make sure insurance paysfor it.
I say, game on, if you're payinga thousand bucks a month, you
better get it covered, or youbetter know up front what it's
going to cost, because some ofthese people are getting bills
and they didn't even know thecost up front.
They didn't even know that thecat scan they were going to do,
that they were going to get done, they got done and insurance is
(34:08):
denying them to cover that plan.
Well, guess what I'm going totell you a cat scan cash price
might be a lot cheaper thanbeing denied under your
insurance plan and you are stuckwith that medical bill and they
will put you to medical, to, to, to claims.
They'll say, oh, they're notpaying, and that's that's where
(34:30):
people struggle.
They'll go to buy a house, oneof the largest things that when
they go to purchase a house andthey can't purchase because of
their credit, it's because oftheir medical debt.
Wow, they are, they are, theyand you know their, their credit
scoring.
So if you have unpaid debtthrough the system, through the
(34:51):
large healthcare system, you'lleven get denied even purchasing
a home because it killed yourcredit.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Okay, I got a couple for instances.
It's 32, 33 minutes into thefirst segment here.
I got to take a break and whenwe come back I'm going to throw
a couple for instances at you ofsome people I actually know who
are going through this.
Can we do a Q&A on that?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
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Welcome back to the podcast.
Today, Priscilla Romans is onthe phone and she has graced us
(36:52):
with her presence and herknowledge for her patient
advocacy company.
Now, at the break I says we aregoing to do some Q&A.
We are going to have a, forinstance.
And here it is.
Are you still with me?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I am still with you.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Okay, here we go now.
A patient, friend of mine, afriend of mine was diagnosed
with some pretty crazy stuffFour types of cancer.
I mean, he's had numerousamounts of pieces taken from him
, one in which is his stomach.
They removed his colon, theytook out, I think, some of his
(37:26):
liver, they took some of hisspleen and the doctors seemed to
think that the best course ofaction was to constantly cut
this guy apart.
Well, now he's on a feedingtube.
He's having a hard time withthat.
Now this guy is 6'4", almost300 pounds.
He's a big guy.
And now he's 6'4" and he lookslike he's got 90 pounds of
(37:53):
weight on him, which is reallysad, because I've been with this
guy my whole life Very, very,very good company, very good
people, and I've tried to steerthem to your direction before
this all happened and they justdecided to continue with the
model which you spoke of in ourfirst segment.
(38:14):
Now I don't know how I couldhave led the horse to water any
easier.
In their mind they paid forinsurance.
In their head it's like hey,look, I'm not going to spend any
more.
I think it was more sofinancial than it was medical
that they could have justreached out to somebody.
(38:34):
What would you tell thesepeople and I have another one
here, but let's do this onefirst was medical, that they
could have just reached out tosomebody.
Yeah, what would you tell thesepeople and I have another one
here, but let's do this onefirst.
What would you tell them?
The first thing you would sayto him Look, before you cut this
guy apart, what would you say?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Well, before you do any surgery, you've got to know
that it's hard to fix a botchedsurgery.
Okay, so you really do need tobe informed up front, because
not all surgeries are necessary.
Okay, and once you startcutting, they do this to for
(39:07):
cancer people all the time,where it's one surgery after
another, because it creates awhole nother set of issues.
Okay, so for this person inparticular, knowing that they
have a very complex situationgoing on, my first concern that
pops up in my mind going did thedoctor ever talk about
(39:31):
something called ctc?
That's c as in cat t, as that'sC as in cat T, as in Tom C as
in cat.
What that stands for iscirculating tumor cells, and I
know this across the board.
Many, many doctors never evenmentioned this term.
People can go look this up.
Okay, and the circulating tumorcells, and the circulating tumor
(39:55):
cells, they have detached fromthe primary tumor or from the
primary site and it's enteredthe bloodstream or the lymphatic
system.
So you've got what'scirculating, just how CTC sounds
.
It's within your whole body,right, and you've got to shut
(40:19):
that down.
If you don't shut that down,you're just it's continually,
you know, happening in your body.
You're not winning.
At that point you need to winand doctors will not even talk
about options that are beinglooked at and have been used,
because we talked to people thathave had extreme cancer.
(40:40):
There's a great on our website,there's a on our podcast.
We have a small baby podcast.
I just share different optionsfor people and you should
actually interview her too.
Her name is Diana Wright and Ifound her because she killed her
cancer that was circulatingwithin her system but her cancer
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had metastasized, meaning itwas it started as a primary site
of ovarian cancer and she hadcancer in her tumors in her
lungs, her brain her abdomen herrectum.
She had it everywhere.
This was back in 2012 when shegot diagnosed.
(41:26):
The MD Anderson doctor told herwell, diana, you've got weeks
to live.
She's like, oh no.
So the first question I wouldask anybody what is your sense
of urgency to live?
Right, because if you don'thave a sense of urgency to live,
well then just continue doingwhat you're doing.
But when you have somethinglike cancer, in all honesty,
(41:48):
you've got to fight.
You've got to fight bite,because if you don't, it's going
to win, unless you aredefending your body and you're
addressing the root cause of whythe cancer started to begin
with.
Okay, so she had surgery.
Diana had surgery.
Okay, she had a lot taken out.
Her women parts were taken outbecause cancer had invaded right
(42:12):
.
That was the decision that shemade.
She's glad she made it.
She had to stop it, but then shealso had to shut down
circulating tumor cells andthere's something that you can
do in order to take it Now inthe traditional sense.
Just like people will go lookup ivermectin or they'll look up
a fenbens protocol, they'll gooh, the Chode-Tibbins, you know,
(42:37):
did this for his lung cancer,and there's a lot of these great
options, but people don't knowthis gentleman that's dealing
with this doesn't even knowwhere to start.
He's like oh, this isoverwhelming.
Cancer alone and having thosesurgeries are so overwhelming.
(42:57):
They oftentimes feel likehopeless, they don't know where
to unravel and they're beatingthemselves up going.
Maybe I shouldn't have done allthese surgeries.
Well, guess what, here at GraveCare, it's just fine.
Whatever decisions you'vealready made, it's okay.
I believe there's hope and Ibelieve there's miracles.
(43:19):
I think there's some tougherjourneys that are out there that
have complex cancers, like thisgentleman having multiple
surgeries.
But I would simply go to himwhat is your current vitamin D
level?
Do you know how important thevitamin D level that your body
(43:41):
is at currently is so importantto your survival?
We know this because we havedocumentation to help people
understand why it's important toknow what your current vitamin
D level is.
That's a blood draw.
You can go ask your traditionaldoctor and I would challenge
anybody If your doctor is notlooking at that why, why so very
(44:05):
, very simple, basic, and wewould just want to make sure
those fundamentals, the basicfoundations, he knows Right, and
if he doesn't want to do all ofit, that's fine too.
He knows right, and if hedoesn't want to do all of it,
that's fine too.
But I would challenge anybodyIf you've got cancer and you
have a sense of urgency to livebecause you've got kids,
grandkids, a wife, if you've gotsomething to live for, then
(44:29):
let's do it.
Today's your day.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
It originally started with colon cancer.
He had one of these prep testsdone where you do, at home, and
send it in, and it monitored itat zero issues.
Then he went in for an actualcolostomy and he says oh no, no,
that didn't work.
Well, it all started from there.
Then, once they started cuttinghim apart and I would imagine
(44:55):
this is what our friends thinkit's like if they did all this,
why didn't they see the othercancers at that time?
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Happens all the time.
I'm going to ask, I would goback and question did they even
do a PET scan that is anon-invasive test first to see
what lit up on that full bodyPET scan.
And I almost guarantee you theanswer that will come back
because we see this and do thisevery single day.
(45:24):
I'm going to almost guaranteethey never did a PET scan to
begin with Because, remember, wego back to our original
situation.
Cancer is a changing of thecells.
If you go in slice and dice anddo procedures like biopsies,
you have the potential to changethe cells and once you change
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the cells, there's anopportunity for needle tracking
and to spread to the lymphaticsystem.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I found it awful funny that, again, no one said
nothing about the stomach issuethen, or about the spleen issue
or the liver issue and I'm beingvery vague because I was not
part of what they took out.
But their answer every time wasremoval, removal, removal.
And you're like you know, holdon.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
And I implored them to reach out to you and I said
look, you should at least talkto these people.
I think it's money well spent.
And they, they decided to dowhat they did and I respect that
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Absolutely.
We are not a fit for everybody,and that's cool.
We are here for when peoplewant to get help, want to know
all their information.
But see, we don't live in aspace of fear.
Through this medical freedommovement, we don't.
We want to provide that hopeand love, because it's scary
getting a cancer diagnosis.
It is so scary and we shouldnot be making decisions based
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off of emotions, right?
And that's why these people doneed a patient advocate who
cares and who can give them asecond set of eyes.
Or I say, hey, we've got yourblind spot here.
These are things that we know,that we know they're not going
to tell you, right?
So it's so important to makingsure he's properly supported and
(47:20):
we love him for whatever he'sdecided in his life.
I don't want anybody to die.
I know we're all eventuallygoing to die, but shoot while
I'm here.
I want to live and I want tolive well.
I don't want to be sick andconnected to this big, bloated
healthcare system that wants tokeep me sick and dependent.
I want to live a life offreedom, and what else?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
do we have if we don't have our health Right?
Well, if you didn't know, I hadChristine.
She was going to send me outsome W-9s and I says hold on
here, before we do all that,that, no matter who I interview,
if I'm with you and there's aHuttCast promo that we can use
to have your advocates, use as adiscount code HuttCast that
(48:07):
you're going to use them forwhatever you guys want to in
your I don't know, give it awayto someone who needs it.
I want you to make sure you allknow that it.
I want you to make sure you allknow that.
We've played quarterback, nowlet's play defense.
(48:29):
And I have another client, aclient of mine, who was in the
car business.
He has got a mother and it'snot just, it's the brother, and
the brother told me the storyand I said hold on here, you
need to start at the beginning.
Well, my had a, a hip.
She had it replaced.
It becomes sepsis, the boltcomes through and wore through
the bone which worked into amuscle.
I mean all kinds ofcomplications to this surgery.
(48:51):
I mean more than just you wouldever ever hear.
She's in her late 80s, early,early 90s, I think, if I
remember right.
And it's kind of a toughsituation.
They're on track now, but theyhad to raise the roof and raise
holy heck.
But they're looking at a how doyou put it Someone's
(49:13):
responsible for these decisionsand if they need someone to back
them in a spot where, hey, thisdoesn't make sense, this
doesn't make sense, does thatsomething Graith Care provides?
Because now you're talkinglitigate and I don't know if
that's kind of a thing you guysdo.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
We do.
We have a great advocate thatdoes case reviews, and what that
means is we help the clientmake sure they do have all of
their medical records and evenimages, which are very, very
valuable, and we collect thatinformation, we put it together
(49:52):
and we review it.
We have one case right now Ouradvocate is working on that has
over 30,000 pages of medicalrecords to come through.
The family believes that thehospital provided care that
wasn't necessary, that killedtheir loved one, and it was a
(50:17):
very, very difficult situation.
You can't litigate bad, crappycare.
You have to look for merit inthese cases.
That would stick in our opinion, and you also have the issue of
things like the PrEP Act.
So we have closely alignedourselves with attorneys that
(50:39):
can take cases when we findareas that can be moved forward.
We not only have summarizedthese and created a dossier and
teed these up to attorneysgroups that take them, but they
are currently moving through thelitigation process because of
the work that we have done.
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They came to us first.
We put together the summary andfound all the information
highlighted.
This looks like something thatcould be medical malpractice In
our opinion.
We are not attorneys.
Okay, I want to make sure yourlisteners know that we are not
attorneys, we are not doctors.
We are a team of patientadvocates that have probably I
(51:22):
need to probably go through theyears of experience, but we we
probably have well over 250 plusyears or more of experience as
a full team, and so you'regetting somebody that's very
experienced, knows how to gothrough case reviews, knows how
to really investigate the case,to go.
Hmm, this looks like an area ofconcern where there was
(51:46):
something called a sentinelevent that happened in the
hospital or in this a sentinelevent people can go look up.
It's a Jayco accreditation thatthese large institutions, health
care centers, they get what'scalled magnet status, which is a
money thing.
But if there's a Sentinel eventthat isn't properly addressed
(52:09):
and they try to cover it upwhich happens well they can.
Actually, it can also cause awhole lot of issues because they
covered up something or theydidn't do something that put the
patient in danger, createdinjury and harm or even death.
(52:32):
And we are excited that we arepart of this mission to partner
with our clients to go you knowwhat.
If you need that, we can dothat for you and that's why we
have a particular advocate matchfor those type of needs.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Wow, there's so much there isn't there yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
And to think we had to fight this hard for someone
who's trying to help us.
Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, mm-hmm.
It's incredible.
There's issues where the doctorhas literally written in their
documentation, in the electronicmedical record, that there was
X thing to look out for.
For example, watch out for aperforated bowel.
(53:17):
Okay, the bowel.
You know, making sure that thebowel is running smoothly.
Person had some bowel issues andit looked like potentially
there was maybe some bowelissues that they really needed
to monitor.
Okay, patient was hence inhours, hours meaning like 36
(53:37):
plus hours of pain.
The hospital staff and nurseskept saying no, no, you're just
really anxious, let's give yousome medication for anxiety.
You're just anxious, there'snothing going on.
Then, the next thing, you knowwell, they actually.
Then, the next thing, you knowwell, they actually perked their
(54:00):
bowel Perforation.
Okay, that is not a goodsituation in the bowels.
Okay, this person got infected,had weeks and weeks and weeks,
which turned into months ofsickness that the hospital could
never get ahead of to take careof this gentleman Never,
(54:20):
because they didn't payattention to why he was in pain
in the first place.
That is a big issue, a bigissue.
This wife no longer has ahusband.
That was the provider of thefamily.
Okay, lost everything Lost herhusband, lost her best friend
why the hospital did not dotheir due diligence per the
(54:43):
standard of care that theyshould have done.
They ignored him and it wasdocumented.
Documentation means everythingto these attorneys.
See, we don't go off ofsubjective.
We don't go off of oh, I didn'tlike that doctor.
He didn't talk to me very nice.
Yeah, that's just bad, crappycare.
We see that all the time.
What do we have?
That is fact that we need tohold these hospitals accountable
(55:06):
for, because they areinstitutions that we rely on
every single day to help us inthose acute care needs.
We need good hospitals.
We need these hospitals to bedoing exactly what they should
be doing, because there's a timeand a place to use them.
But if you don't know how touse them in the beginning, shoot
, I'm going to just tell youraudience.
You could be mightily screwedif you don't understand what
(55:29):
you're doing.
That's exactly why you need toknow grade care.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Or someone like you.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yeah, absolutely, if you know somebody that's like it
, game on.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Do it.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
You need it.
You need a great patientadvocate.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, and I become more and more of a fan of that
as I listen to you guys and weinterview and I listen to other
people talk and it makes sense.
I mean I don't go to themechanic and say, hey, what
should I do for my brainaneurysm?
And vice versa.
You don't go to the brainaneurysm guy and say what should
I do for my ignition system?
It's just something that don'thappen.
(56:03):
So we have to realize our ownlimitations before we go out and
say well, I think I know what'sbest and I think my doctor
knows what's best.
And it's not saying he doesn't.
It just means that you need asecond opinion and not from the
same system.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yes, that's exactly right.
You, you hit it, you're, youexactly have got this.
You understand with that, it's.
It's a second set of eyes, anddo you have somebody that's
covering your blind side?
What is, what's the blind partsof what you need to know in
order to make a truly informeddecision?
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Whole lot going on here, isn't there?
Speaker 4 (56:45):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
And you don't want to take the human out of medical
care.
But sometimes you just got topump those bricks and say am I
getting what I need here?
And that's what you guys arefor?
Speaker 4 (56:59):
That's right.
Well, we love people.
We love, we love the mission.
My team of advocates are thebest of the best.
I even have advocates for myown family, because they don't
listen to me.
They would rather just talk toan advocate on my team that
tells you that, tells you familydynamics, right there.
But it's awesome to seemiracles happening, people
(57:20):
getting off of thepharmaceutical drugs and living
a life full of freedom.
I mean, didn't we get, didn'twe get all taught growing up
don't do drugs yeah, I thinkthere's a.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
There's a little blurry line there, though.
There's for recreation versuswhatever I mean, and in
minnesota they just open up the.
They open up the pot law thisyear yeah and we're an ffl.
So when you talk to thesepeople they say are you, are you
under municipality of adoctor's orders to have these,
are you addicted to it?
And they have to answer on afederal format, whether they're
(57:54):
lying or not.
I mean, it's not my felony,it's theirs, so felony.
Speaker 4 (57:57):
It's theirs.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
So if you got a pot card and you answer no to that
question no, I'm not addicted toit, I take it occasionally.
I didn't know where to begin tosay that.
So when the feds start digginginto that one, we'll see how
that goes in life.
But yeah, medical is adifferent gig.
And if you're in painucoma,whatever it is, and you got a
pod card, well then you can'tbuy guns wow, yeah, that's it,
(58:21):
that's tough.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
The federal government should not be in the
way of um your, your medicalfreedom.
It is not a good, it's that'sjust.
In my belief system, we shouldnot be having government control
, mandate or course people forwhat they should be doing for
their medical freedom at allperiod.
(58:42):
Bad, slippery slope.
That is a very socialized model.
And if you do that, pleaseremember, once they start
dictating which they have verycleverly in a lot of ways, and
they also have the control ofthe electronic medical record,
the EMR system, they can startmandating a lot of things how
(59:04):
much sugar, how many sodas?
Oh, you haven't gottenvaccinations, what could they do
with that?
Right.
And if you didn't getvaccinations, oh, what could
they shut off?
Right, there's a lot of controlfactors.
So you do not want the federalgovernment or any government
institution in the way of yourmedical freedom.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Let's plug the company one more time.
Could you do that for us?
Speaker 4 (59:31):
So what now?
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Let's say the company name.
How to get ahold of you allthat?
Just go ahead and plug it.
Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yeah, greatcare.
Just go to our website,greatcarecom.
That's G-R-A-I-T-H careC-A-R-Ecom.
When you go there, check outour team of advocates.
All you're doing is purchasingadvocacy time.
Okay, so we have differentbundles one hour, two hours.
(59:58):
I would encourage everybody justto start with an hour.
Talk to an advocate aboutwhat's going on with you and
what game plan we would advisefor you to know, and you can use
that time as you need it.
The time never expires.
We have people that purchasedan hour last year that still
have some time remaining.
How awesome is that that itdoesn't expire.
(01:00:20):
We're here for you along yourjourney.
I would definitely encourage tothe listeners to make sure you
use HUTCAST to get a 10%discount.
We are excited that HUTCASTsupports grave care and we want
to support you with a 10%discount.
Getting up and started with anadvocate.
We are worldwide, so we'vehelped somebody in all 50 states
(01:00:45):
and in 15 different countriesup to this day.
We have thousands of clientsthat are getting their advocacy
support from a team of advocatesthat love them.
So I would just challengeeverybody try us out, try an
hour.
Call our intake team.
Our number is on our website.
There's a contact us page.
(01:01:07):
You can just write in what youneed and the intake team.
You'll actually get a realhuman responding to you, not a
robot or a bot.
We actually want to respond toyou with some human love and
kindness and we want to meet youwhere you're at.
So, whether you're needingtraditional support or want some
alternative natural options,our team can go help you with
(01:01:31):
those next steps.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
And don't forget, use promo code HUDCAST, which at
that point, Grace Care willdecide where they want to put
that.
This is not given back to me,this is going back into the show
and a charity of their choosing.
So HUTCAST, promo codeH-U-T-T-C-A-S-T, and we are 25
minutes and 15 seconds into thissecond event.
(01:01:55):
Do you have anything else youwant to go before we part?
Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Well, I feel like people go.
This is just another business.
What I want your listeners toknow is that my heart in
starting Grave Care in March of2020, it was definitely
God-directed and one of thethings that always challenged me
that I grew up I grew up in theMidwest, my dad's a minister,
(01:02:22):
my mom was a nurse, and peoplecan look at my story on the
about page on our website.
I would encourage people to getto know why I did what I did
and who my grandparents, youknow, were and are.
My grandmother was a lieutenantnurse in the Army and my
grandfather fought in the Battleof the Bulge and she took care
(01:02:45):
of him, and I believe thatfighting for people's freedom is
a part of my just how I grew up, and my parents just I don't
know they really helped meuncover, you know, my nursing
journey, in a way, to going.
There can be a lot more we cando for people, and God just
opened up this opportunity.
(01:03:06):
And what's so great about GraveCare is even people who call
that are in financial hardship.
We have what's called GratefulGiving.
It's a nonprofit that I alsorun and if they are in financial
hardship, they fill out a formthat says hey, this is my
situation, I do need an advocate.
(01:03:26):
We provide advocacy to hundredsand hundreds of people that are
in financial hardships today,meaning our seniors, our
veterans, our single moms anddads out there that are
struggling to put food on theirtable.
We provide them donated patientadvocacy time.
So see, I want to take care ofmy advocates and pay them for
(01:03:49):
the work they're doing, whetherit's somebody who can pay for
our services or somebody thatcan't.
Through our donations, I notonly want to serve and help my
team of advocates make sure theycan take care of their families
, but I want to take care ofanybody that comes to us in need
and match them with a patientadvocate.
So that's very near and dear,because I think there's a lot of
(01:04:13):
business owners that are doinggreat things out there.
I wanted to be different.
I wanted to go.
You know what, if somebody doescome to us and they really are
scraping?
Some of these seniors arebarely getting by with the
amount of Social Security andthey have no extra funds to do
the things that they need to doand they are so sick and they
(01:04:38):
keep going to the hospital forneeds and they're lost and
frustrated and their doctor'snot listening to them.
We want to be that arm for them, we want to be that second set
of eyes and help these peoplebecause they matter.
Humanity matters.
And do I think that there willbe another pandemic eventually?
(01:05:01):
Yeah, because it was superprofitable for these people that
are reliant on the big, bloatedhealthcare system and I just
truly believe that everybodyinherently needs an advocate to
be able to call or text.
Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Well, everybody, you heard him Grace Care.
Look them up on the web, checkout their advocacy programs and
I'll tell you what it's a prettysharp group.
Priscilla, thank you very muchfor stopping in today and giving
us your time, and we'll sendthis episode.
Drops at about 5 o'clockCentral Time and I think that's
kind of about it for now.
What do you think?
I think that's kind of about itfor now.
(01:05:37):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
I think it's going to be a beautiful day and I
appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
We thank you for having me on again.
It was an eye-opener every time.
Okay, huttcast signing off.
Remember everybody, the goal isto be well, let's be well, and
(01:06:05):
that's a wrap for hutcast.
Hutcast is again a pragmaticapproach to seeing things how
some people see them.
If you like our show, give us athumbs up on the facebook site
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Thank you again.
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