June 15, 2025 • 37 mins
We address the recent shooting of Minnesota State Senator John Hoffman and the targeted attack on state lawmakers that has rocked our community. Examining both the personal impact and broader implications of this politically motivated violence, we explore what happens when safety is suddenly shattered.
• Detailed account of the shooting at Senator Hoffman's residence where both he and his wife sustained gunshot wounds
• Analysis of the shooter's tactics including police impersonation, tactical gear, and apparent premeditation
• Discussion of home security vulnerabilities and the psychological impact of having your safe space violated
• Examination of the suspect Vance Boelter, his background, and reported connections to state government
• Consideration of mental health as the root cause rather than focusing on the weapons used
• Practical advice on personal protection and the legal complexities of defending yourself or others
• Reflection on community impact and the decision to cancel local events while the suspect remained at large
If you'd like to support Senator Hoffman, his wife Yvette, and the Hortman family during their recovery, please consider contributing to their GoFundMe pages or sending messages of support through CaringBridge.
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Welcome to the cast Today,6-15-2025.
Been kind of a thing at the oldcast.
Some things got happened and ifyou've been in the news you
know what's kind of going on inthe Minneapolis area.
So we're going to kind of touchon some of that today.
So I'm going to kind of touchon some of that today, seeing
how one of our show people, ourshow guys, who was part of this
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Welcome back to the podcast.
Kind of a tough week here,tough couple of days here at the
podcast.
Underground bunker.
We've had some issues in ourlocal city where a gunman tried
to end the lives of some friendsof mine.
And if you are in the news andyou get to watch this and you
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get to see what's going on, ourfriend has been on the show a
couple times.
He has been an advocate, a hugeadvocate, for persons with
disabilities.
He is a a Health and HumanServices Director Chair.
So I mean he's kind of a bigdeal.
Last night at about 2 o'clock inthe morning I mean you're sure
(02:54):
you're seeing all the news, butthis is going to be my rendition
of it.
And again, we hang out on aregular basis and I'll tell you
what this is really kind of athing.
So I'm trying to get throughthis episode to pay him honor,
his family honor and the otherHortmans' honor as well.
It's about 2 in the morning.
A gunman came to the residenceof Senator John Hoffman.
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I don't know the particularsyet.
He's still in intensive care.
She got out of ICU yesterdayand was shot three times.
I don't know how many bulletsJohn had sustained.
I do see that the news reportshave bullet holes going through
their front door.
About seven of them is what Icounted.
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She took three in the stomach.
Again, I don't know how many hetook and where the other ones
went, I don't know.
The single gunman decided thathe didn't like the way, as far
as I know, and then there'sreports, like everyone else gets
the same data.
He didn't like the way.
John voted for something on theomnibus bill in the state of
Minnesota at the Senate level.
So whoever this guy is, I meanwe have suspects.
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We don't know nothing quite yet.
I mean they're pretty sure.
I mean the city of Champlins,dotted with the Flock camera
systems which I was a hugeproponent for in both cities of
mine and where I work.
I can only imagine that withthe AI camera systems that Flock
imposes it's a very high-techcamera.
You can say I want to see everycar that has a plate that
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starts with an L, or it sayspolice, or it has a roof rack,
or it's a white car, it's a bluecar.
Whatever you want to say in theAI function of this camera, it
will do so.
I do know that Champlin hasthree, four of them at all,
major intersections, which wouldbe an egress and or degress
from John's place of residenceto his next victim's house,
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which were the Hortons.
You would have to take thispath, and I know there's a
camera on that road.
This assailant, from what Iunderstand, has a police vehicle
like an ex-governmentcarscomthing, where you buy up an old
squad and you do this, you canhave lights around it.
I mean I've seen amber lightsand I've seen red lights.
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I didn't see any blue.
So I don't know where thismunicipality or this government
agency got rid of this car.
It was a Ford product.
It had license plates that saidpolice.
He was dressed in full tackuniform.
He had a vest with a cross drawon it.
If you're not weapons people, across draw is if your strong
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hand is your right, then youcross across your chest to grab
a left-handed mounted weaponwhich you'll never use with your
left hand and vice versa, and aside arm which is also strapped
to the leg.
Typical operator entrymaterials you would get as a
tactical officer, as a specialforces officer or whatever
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operative you would do.
I mean, it's all stuffeverywhere, get it anywhere.
I don't know if he was wearinga bulletproof vest no one would
know that yet because you canget the vest without the G3, g5
ratings but he either knocked onthe door or he opened the door.
All three of them were at thedoor the wife, the daughter and
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John.
So I can only imagine there wasenough time for everyone to get
up and find out what's going on.
They just got back from thiswonderful dinner that they all
had at and they get to the door.
They get to the door and therewas a scuffle of some sort.
I can only imagine that hetried to gain entry and John
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stopped the entry of it.
I mean a forceful entry, pushback, because you don't shoot
through a door unless the dooris either closed or got closed
on you.
Again, these are all theoriesuntil we have a conversation
with John.
But he shot through the door.
At that point nobody quite knowswhat's going on.
Then he goes over to theHartman's residence, which is
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about three miles, four milesmaybe, from the Hoffman
residence.
I would imagine this assailantlearned some things at the first
stop.
Maybe he didn't get enough time, maybe you know who knows Gets
in the driveway, turns thelights on, impersonating
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Hortman's, come down to thefront door, the assailant gains
entry there, he shoots them andagain there's something we don't
know.
We'll never know what's goingon on the inside.
Only the police would have thatkind of rough idea of how
things were and the way it kindof laid out.
But then, as reported by thenews, he exited the house At
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that point because the Hoffmanresidents were under police
lockdown.
The police chief of Champlinsays, hey, we should probably go
check on the next local staterepresentative, state employee.
You know the policymakers ofour city and state and
government.
Oddly enough, as they roll upthey see the lights on this
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ex-police car and they thought,okay, I mean, what else do you
think?
But there's someone alreadyhere and as soon as they pulled
up, I guess the assailantstarted gunfire towards the
police.
At that point they knew he wasthe perpetrator.
The assailant went back into theHortman's house I don't know
(08:27):
for how long.
He gets out of the back of itand is on the run.
I mean, at this point he'sgotten through the house, he's
out the back.
They're calling for backup.
I'd imagine there's only two ofthem.
I mean you can't really coverboth sides until you have the
time and he leaves.
The rest is kind of like in thenews.
But I want to make you know onething really ultra clear at this
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point.
I've known John for a number ofyears.
I don't know the Hartmans.
They were scheduled to be onthe show.
I was hoping to get him on theshow and it just never got
together.
It was something that just kindof happened.
It was, you know, everybodyknows we're a very political
show, political show.
And, to be clear, john was aproponent for the 2A.
He wasn't against guns at all.
(09:11):
I mean, because we always hadthis thing about.
You know, it's never a gunissue, it's a mental health
issue and this perpetratorobviously wasn't in his right
mind.
He decided that for some reason, the way they voted went
against his moral compass and hedecided he was going to clean
the plate, so to say.
(09:31):
But let's go back to the actual2A thing Again.
I've been shooting with John.
He's a great shot, he's all forresponsible gun ownership and
this was obviously something wayoutside.
I hope he still has that samestance, because what a tragic
thing to go through.
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I can't even begin to thinkabout how, in your own home,
being violated at gunpoint,disabling your wife, aiming for
your child and shooting you atthe same, you know, with the
same altercation.
I mean it's, I don't know, it'sa tough one, it's a very tough
one.
But I want you to take a momentto think about your egress and
degress in your home.
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If you were in the situation.
You see lights out front.
Of course we all respect thepolice at that point and we're
going to say, okay, you knowsomething's going on.
We got to open the door, we'vegot to talk to them.
I mean, is it that point whereyou don't just open the door and
say, hey, what's going on?
I mean, would you go to thedoor with a weapon in your hand?
I mean, I think you know, ifeverybody has a close proximity
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to their protection, is it notthat?
thing, you know, as a bigstaunch gun guy myself, I don't
even travel without, I don't goto the store without.
But in your own home it's kindof a different thing.
You have this sense of security, this thing that thinks, hey,
you know, you're kind ofuntouchable in your own fortress
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.
It makes you rethink that idea.
And a lot of people say theyhome carry, I don't know, I
don't know about that.
Lot of people say they homecarry, I don't know.
Do you want to be aroundeverything all day with a weapon
on your hip or shoulder orholster or whatever it is?
I mean, it seems like a heck ofa gig to be like dealing with.
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So this leaves a lot ofquestions in everyone's mind.
Of course, our main function isto protect our own at every
cost, and I'm sure John did thatby the altercation at the front
door.
But see, they have these thingscalled combat multipliers.
The combat multiplier is anysituation where if you bring a
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slingshot, I'm going to bring abat, if you bring a bat, I'm
going to bring a bigger bat.
And then it gets to the pointwhere now I got a gun and you
got a bazooka.
Eventually you're going to runout of hardware.
Eventually that's going to bethe end of what's going on.
Then you have to have thetactical advantage, the surprise
, the combat of being able toreact instead of reaction.
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And this is all basic OperatorHandbook 101 stuff.
So there's nothing, nothing newhere.
But this guy knew this tacticaladvantage.
Sometimes I think that this guyis a ex-security of some sort.
What did he do?
How did he get this interest?
But you know, I see some flawin this logic.
What I don't understand is theguy gets a squad, he gets it lit
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up, he has a siren on it, kindof a weird siren.
It wasn't a normal siren, iswhat they're telling everybody.
He has a tactical vest.
He has again.
That's easily explainablebecause he can get it anywhere.
He was in a blue uniform.
Well, we don't know what theuniform said, but there's a lot
of blue uniforms out in theworld and if you're covered by a
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tack vest you ain't gonna knowwhat it is.
Anyway.
It could be a laundry guy or aLay's potato chips guy.
I mean, there's all kinds ofmaybes and what ifs, but blue is
easy to get.
It wasn't the normal color blueyou'd see in a police officer.
Either it's really really,really dark or it's going to be
kind of like a light blue, Atleast the ones I've seen in blue
.
He gets his vest, he covers upthe chest of himself, he's got
his cross draw, he's got his hipholster or weapon, but
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reportedly at the Hortman housethe neighbors heard gunshots.
Here's where I'm going withthis.
If you can get all this stuffand you've planned this and
you're in the security mode ofthings, and if he had this list,
which the news is saying he'shad a, he had a kill list and he
thought all this stuff out, whywouldn't you have a silencer?
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Where does can go In the worldof weapons?
The can is a silencer, so hegoes and makes all this noise
without a can on there.
He wants to go to the next onhis list without a can on there,
Eventually, other than thepolice catching up and alerting
all the House of Representativesand the senators of the state
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and the geographic locationwhere he's got this to be.
Why didn't he plan that?
Why didn't that happen?
I don't know.
I don't know that answerbecause the decisions that these
senators made at the lastomnibus bill was not too long
ago, a couple of days ago Ithink, Wednesday or Tuesday.
I mean I talked to John onWednesday and he says, yeah,
we're all done and it was.
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You know, it was an ass kickerthis time with all the things
that they had to get done.
And when he's spent like that,you know they're busy, but I
just can't figure out if you'regoing to really process this.
And a mistake well made onbehalf of John and all the other
senators that were in thattarget list.
You just don't plan like that,Not if you're an operator.
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An operator is a weaponsspecialist, a tactical entry
team, one of those guys that dothis for a living, do the whole
beard thing, and they're stillstuck in Afghanistan or wherever
they're at, whatever theoperating theater was, I don't
know.
Kind of a big thing around heretoday.
Yesterday was a day of solace.
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We've lowered our flag to halfstaff, We've urged people in the
community to do the same, and Iwant to begin to tell you about
our festival in our city thatthis happened in.
And then things kind of getbrushed under the rug.
And I'll tell you what I jumpedto high heaven on a lot of
people saying this cannot happentoday and nobody wanted to
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cancel that huge setup.
But you know he's within ourcity.
He's a sitting senator who hasworked for this city out of
respect and the fact that thisguy's still in the loose.
You know logic says you shutthat off.
You can't put that in people'sway and they were going to
continue to do it.
They even sent a police reportout saying oh, this is a good
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thing, life's good, but there'sno Salem and Cot.
I mean, you got kids, you goton that night.
They were supposed to havefireworks.
Now imagine the kind of coveryou would have if you were in
the crowd.
Think about that.
Wow, You're in the crowd,fireworks going off.
You could literally shoot intoa group of people and no one
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would hear you.
You'd be right next to this guyand he's shooting and you
wouldn't know it.
But if you can't figure out thecan process, I don't know if
you would have thought of that.
And really it was more targetedtowards political people versus
anybody.
But people like that arementally stable.
At one point does he run out ofopportunity and finds a target,
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rich opportunity like afestival or a.
You know, you can't.
It's a mental health issue.
This is not a gun issue.
There's something in this guy'shead.
It snapped.
You ain't going to figure itout, You're going to fix it.
You just got to contain theseguys.
The left's going to say, oh,we're going to do more gun
control, we're going to do thisagain.
It's not a gun issue.
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The gun was the tool used inthe crime.
It's no more than a hammerissue.
It's no more than a car drivinginto a bunch of people the one
down in Virginia that deal Likethe kid who drove into the crowd
.
Now we're going to startbanning cars.
Come on, there's got to be alittle more common sense than
this.
The left don't get it becausethey're scared of them.
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And you should be scared ofweapons, Absolutely, but you
can't be scared of the weaponitself.
You've got to be scared of thepeople behind the weapon, the
desperate people, Becausedesperate people do desperate
things.
And he made that choice, thisshooter.
What choice is he going to makenext?
Is it you?
Is it your neighbor?
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I'm kind of a big two-way carryguy myself.
I would rather have a fireextinguisher and not need it
than need one and not have it.
Yeah, it's a pain in the buttto carry.
Yeah, you got to go and certify.
And yeah, and you got to getstate certified.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's a crap show, but you caneither do that or carry
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illegally, which is now a felony.
It's always been a felony, andpeople who follow the law don't
create felonies, they follow thelaw.
I would be interested to findout what type of weapon this guy
had, Because what I saw weretwo pistols.
I did not see an AR platform, Idid not see an AK platform, I
didn't see any rifle-basedplatforms, and that'll soon come
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out.
So think to yourself what wouldyou rather have?
The fire extinguisher or not?
What if you're in a McDonald'sand this guy?
Because state law is very, very, it's very directive on how you
can use your weapon to protectoneself of eminent harm and
danger.
And we've had a Gene German wason the show a while back a
couple years ago and we did anine-part series or seven-part
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series of what to do and whatnot to do.
And I'm going to have him backon again, especially after this
deal.
And the law says that youcannot protect anybody else
unless it's your family and oryou.
So you're just going to standthere and let this guy pop off
kids and McDonald's because youdon't want to get in trouble.
Oh man, Can you live withyourself at that point?
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If you can, you're on the wrongshow.
Go find somewhere else tolisten, because you're dead
wrong.
You have to engage.
Someone's life depends on it.
You're the only one that'sgoing to do it.
The police cannot do it.
The police cannot get there,they cannot precog this event.
They're there to take astatement, to write a report and
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bag people up, because that'sliterally all they can do In the
quantum of time.
They just can't do that.
So think about that as a person, a human listening to that
gunfire, thinking to yourselfokay, what would you do in this
situation?
I mean, you've got to askyourself what would you do?
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It's not an easy question.
You will have lawsuit afterlawsuit.
You'll have the AG coming downon you.
You'll have just because you'rethe guy who protected somebody.
And every gun trainer, whetherit's Leoso, whether it's Team
German, whether it's your localguys, will tell you the same
thing You're in for a crap show.
But is that crap show worthsomeone's life.
Are you ready to say no, I'mnot engaging this because I
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don't want to get in trouble?
Man, you didn't get in trouble,you were already at trouble.
Trouble came to you.
Then you've got to figure outthe term FAFO, look it up.
If they're in your AO, it's Airof Operation and they come into
you and they're killing peoplearound you, would you not engage
that?
Because as soon as he sweepsthat gun in front of you, at
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that point you have the right toprotect yourself of imminent
harm.
And you have to remember thatname because Gene says that a
lot.
Gene says you have to make it.
Say you are of imminent harmand certainly God, god, god,
when the cops get there, tellthem you had to save your life,
eminent harm, and shut up, callyour attorney.
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At that point you will be intotal shock.
That's what Gene says.
I mean, I've never been in aposition.
You will be in total shock.
You will have to do all kindsof things.
They'll make you think you haveto answer them cops, and
they'll keep ticking you andticking you and ticking you,
before the point where they saywell, we got to know this, we
got to know that Lawyer.
Just say the words lawyer onfilm on the body action camera
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Law lawyer and stop talking.
All this can get worked outlater.
You need to compose yourself.
Focus on what you know.
Protect your interests, becausethe interests of the family
that you shot, this poorinnocent person who's in there
shooting people up, are going tocome after you in a civil suit.
Oh, you could have used anon-lethal force.
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You know how that crap goes,especially in Minnesota, here
with the AG Allison.
You don't know how that's goingto play out.
So protect yourself, Just closeyour mouth.
So it's been kind of a weirdweek for us.
It's been kind of a weirdcouple days.
Currently, the wife is up andabout.
Well, she's up.
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I don't know if she's about,but she's awake.
And she's the one that tookthree to the stomach.
I have not talked to them yet.
No-transcript, Okay well.
I'm getting sidetracked.
Now let's take a break, and Ithink what I'm going to do in
the next segment here is let'stalk about the shooter, let's
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talk about what he did, and thenwe'll talk about who he's
associated with and who he'saffiliated with, because this
will totally trip your trigger,I'd guess.
I'll take a break, we'll comeright back.
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Welcome back to HUDcast.
Okay, let's talk about this guy, this perpetrator, the shooter.
Now, all I can give you isinformation based upon out in
the world, but I can tell you bylooking at his folder, his file
, the online dossier, if youwill.
He looks like a staunch leftwith tactical experience.
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He's not afraid to engage.
I mean that's obviously becauseof the no kings pamphlets in
his car, in his fake car, hiscop car.
I believe that was a cop car.
Have to check that one, but youdon't have 500 copies of this
if you're just going to be therewith one person.
(23:40):
So he had intentions of beingat the king's uh no king's uh
protest.
You know that.
You know the ones that are notviolent and within the law,
those kind.
And he's a 6'2", he's 200 andsome pounds 220.
He's a big guy.
I mean there's no doubt aboutthis guy is well-trained, he's
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57 years old.
Again, I don't know why Ididn't think about doing the can
, because those are things thatyou wouldn't forget.
Now, his squad, the X squad itlooks like a Ford product, a
license plate police.
Right now it's at Twin CitiesImpound.
That's where Brooklyn Centerhas their tow trucks, that's
where they get it from, and ofcourse, that itself is a crime
(24:32):
scene.
I'm looking at the video of himwearing the mask and I can see
being at John's house, his carin the driveway, his house with
a brick in the front.
There's a lot of things there.
You've seen it, you've beenthere.
What set this guy off?
You talk to his roommates orhis roommates that get online
and they start saying he was aguy who was against abortion and
who was this?
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That?
I, the other.
I get that.
I get.
If you've got a stance, youtake it, but you don't take it
like this.
So this Vance guy.
Let me turn to this KSTP.
They have a thing on theirwebsite.
It says authorities haveconfirmed a 57-year-old, vance
Bolter, is a suspect sought inthe connection with the
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shootings.
Well, if you've confirmed the57-year-old that he's the
shooter, how can he be thesuspect?
I mean, of course you got tohave due process, but I think
they know more than they'retelling the rest of us.
That's to hear of statelawmakers.
Melissa Hartman and JohnHoffman were not in custody, but
the authorities say that theydid not believe he is in the
Brooklyn Park area anymore.
No, I wouldn't think this guy'sprobably in Minnesota anymore.
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You can't write this stuff,people.
This is insane.
This is insanity to the nextlevel of why they go and target.
And if you do, look at the KSTPwebsite and you'll see I'm
looking at the door now, I'mcounting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
9, 10, 11, maybe 11 shots atthe door.
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Now I do see that the screendoor is closed or the glass door
is closed.
He has a two-part door.
His first one is a glasscoverage like a screen door, and
I don't see any damage to that.
So I believe the door wasalready open, the first door,
and then the second door gotopened after that and then they
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closed it or they shut it onthem or did something.
Even the glass next to the door.
I don't see I don't know if Ido see that any damage to the
glass.
I can't see that online.
So and I haven't been to thehouse yet.
So, yeah, it's, it's kind of a,it's kind of a crazy gig, but
this, this fast guy I mean, ifyou look, if you listen to his
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online looks like he's lookingfor a job or something.
This online process of who thisis, who I am.
I mean it's common practice towhen you're looking for a job,
you start doing your interviewand listening to him.
He's not afraid of deathbecause that's his job.
He was a funeral director.
He went and gathered bodies.
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After events it was not like athing for him, it didn't matter.
I mean to him it was justanother Thursday night.
But here's the kick in the junkon this one.
Guess who he worked for in thestate of Minnesota and this is
probably already common sense toa lot of people around here.
They've already heard theprocess, but he was appointed by
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Governor Tim Walz to work insome part of his administration.
His term ended in 23.
He was appointed to thatposition, ended in 23.
He was appointed to thatposition and I think it was
appointed to the WorkforceDevelopment Board in 19 to 23.
And he was also in there in 16.
, 16, 19, and 23.
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So he's no dummy.
He knows what, where and whoand how and he's well versed in
political, the political arena.
Yeah, it's kind of aed in thepolitical arena.
Yeah, it's kind of a thing.
Google his name VanceB-O-E-L-T-E-R.
And for you guys across thecountry, he's a local guy.
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Of course he would have to beif he was appointed to a
government agency, the WorkforceDevelopment Board.
He wore a mask at Hoffman'splace.
I see the mask.
I don't know if that mask is atthe other place as well.
I don't know that, but on onepicture the NBC News has a
picture of him opening the glassdoor and knocking on the other
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door, knocking, ringing.
What do you do at 2 in themorning?
How does that work?
You get up at 2 in the morning.
You see lights outside yourwindow.
Again, they're amber and red,not amber.
I mean, would cops have amber?
I suppose they would if theywere running their directional
beams to steer traffic on thebackside.
Their arrow stick.
They call it.
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Yeah, they're going to catchthis guy, then they're going to
teach him the word FAFO.
I can only imagine his familyand friends and wives.
And I heard they caught.
They didn't catch.
There was a driving infractionwink, wink that his wife was
driving the car and I'm justassuming that he wouldn't have
been.
You know they would have pickedher up right away.
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I don't know why they wouldwait.
I suppose that they couldprobably get to them Incredible,
incredible information,incredible stuff.
There's lawmakers all over thecountry.
Let's not forget that GovernorWalz was in DC getting grilled
about his activities of notfollowing the federal law just
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the day before.
I mean, I'm not a conspiracytheorist but I find it awful odd
that all of a sudden we gotsomething in this state that's
next level, next level, and wehad a next level, which was our
governor being grilled andrightly so, by the way, by some
state, some federal senators,who were giving him the kung fu
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like nobody's business.
I think Nancy Mace had a funnyone where she looks at Waltz and
says Waltz, tell me what awoman is.
After about three minutes ofsilence and him pondering,
looking like a fool, he says Idon't understand the question.
Well, think about that question.
And if you were in that spot,you know he's pro-anti-gender.
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All this, whatever he does, ifyou think it, you're it.
If you're a turtle, you're it.
If you're a frog, you're it.
And if he would have answeredthat question in any other way
than X and Y chromosomes, hewould have had all these people
that he was defending and makingtheir choices for what sex they
want to be, what person theywant to be a binary, non-binary,
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whatever that is he would havehad a problem with that.
That was a tough question and avery simple question to be in
that tough because if hisideology is so out in that field
that you can answer it withrepercussion on both sides of
that, what is a woman?
I don't know if you guys followNancy Mace.
I do.
She's out of North Carolina I'msorry, south Carolina and she's
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a pistol.
She's one to keep an eye on.
If anybody's going to makepresident the next round, it's
going to be her.
We used to think that about theFlorida governor too, santos,
but Trump stepped on that.
One Another thing about thisassailant if they've got an APB
out in the sky and one of thepictures of him wearing a cowboy
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hat and I don't know about anyof you guys out there, but in
Minnesota if're walking aroundcarrying a cowboy hat, you might
as well wear a 15-foot flagthat says I'm the guy that did
it.
Nobody wears their cowboy hathere.
So if he's actually stillwalking around with the cowboy
hat on, I would be verysurprised that this guy's doing
that, because there's just noway that.
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Nobody would be that stupid.
But hey, you know that would.
Nobody would be that stupid,but hey, you know he is.
He is mentally incapacitatedright now because of what he did
.
Yeah, I don't know, it's kindof cowboy hat, minnesota.
Okay, yes, you can wear them.
Yes, that is kind of fun.
It keeps the sun off, keeps therain off, I get it.
But if you're on the lam, wouldyou really wear the a thing
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that says I mean, I could lookat 100 people and see if there's
a hat on.
So your chances of gettingnicked are a whole lot more than
if you just didn't have one.
And you look at some of thepictures of him.
He's military somewhere.
He's got the crew cut.
I'd like to know his record.
Cfe, lebron Lamont.
Yeah, he's kind of like allover the place.
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Okay, we've got a red liongroup.
He's Dr Vance Bolter, edd,second.
Yeah, so search him out, do alittle research on this guy if
you've got nothing to do.
But again, our hearts go out tothe guys and women who got
targeted by this POS.
Yeah, targeted by this POS.
Yeah, and, as a side note, yes,the area in which the city in
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which he lives in did stop theirevents for the rest of the
weekend.
It was a smart move.
I don't know if I told you thatearlier in the mix, but, yeah,
kind of a thing.
His poor roommates are goingthrough a whole crap.
Show this Volter's roommates,volter, roommates Volter.
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Yeah, okay, he's going to be onthe target of news for a long
time.
I hope that again, we don'ttake away from the evidence of
what Walt's went through,because he's Walt still has
answers to do here.
He ain't just going to skateout this, because now, you know,
my friends get shot and twoothers die because of some
mental case.
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But we still have Waltz toanswer to and I want you guys to
hold him to fire.
Vote accordingly.
Vote someone who is out for the.
Take care of the people of thisstate.
There was some people that say,oh, thank you for your
leadership, governor Waltz.
There was no people that say,oh, thank you for your
leadership, governor Waltz.
There was no leadership here.
You're following just likeeverybody else.
You can't lead this.
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It's all about following.
So that's about it for now.
I'm going to put a fork in thisand I hope all you have the rest
of a Father's Day, because it'skind of not going to be one for
my buddy, and I hope that youcan find it in your way to open
up a CaringBridge or a GoFundMefor him.
He's going to need some help.
It's under John Hoffman, yvetteHoffman, and it's going to be
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for the other two as well, theHortons I'm sure they're in a
situation as well.
I mean, any bit helps, or atleast some kind words would help
.
So chime in on their sites,their websites.
Keep an eye out for this guy.
Remember a cowboy hat?
But I don't think he's going tobe wearing it.
Get to know what he looks like,because around here they kept
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everybody in the dark for a longenough time where, if he did
walk by me, you wouldn't know it.
He'd walk up to me and sell mea bag of potato chips and I
wouldn't know who this guy wouldbe.
That's what I think localgovernment has a problem with.
I get it's an investigation,but if you can't employ the
people to say, look, keep youreyes out, this is the guy, then
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what good is it?
What is good in having anetwork where you could
instantly hit 5,000 people on asocial media page and say this
is the guy.
Keep your eyes out, withoutlocal government freaking out,
because you're going to scarepeople.
Yeah you better be scared, youbetter be damn scared.
You better be in your house.
You better lock your doors, armyourself, but if this guy comes
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to your door, you'll knowexactly who he is.
Not after the fact, oh hey, Ibought a watch from the guy.
He was on Marketplace and wedid a sell on his cowboy hat, I
don't know.
Okay, I'm putting a fork in itthis time.
Be well and happy if you can.
The rest of your Father's Day,reach out to your kids, hug them
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, because right now there aretwo people that cannot.
There's one father that can't.
Mr Hartman is now in thatposition and I feel very, very
sorry for his position.
So we can do what we can do andwe can pay attention and we can
make sure that this don'thappen to someone else.
So, podcast signing off Be well, Be well, be vigilant, be aware
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Welcome back to the podcast.
Kind of a tough week here,tough couple of days here at the
podcast.
Underground bunker.
We've had some issues in ourlocal city where a gunman tried
to end the lives of some friendsof mine.
And if you are in the news andyou get to watch this and you
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get to see what's going on, ourfriend has been on the show a
couple times.
He has been an advocate, a hugeadvocate, for persons with
disabilities.
He is a a Health and HumanServices Director Chair.
So I mean he's kind of a bigdeal.
Last night at about 2 o'clock inthe morning I mean you're sure
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you're seeing all the news, butthis is going to be my rendition
of it.
And again, we hang out on aregular basis and I'll tell you
what this is really kind of athing.
So I'm trying to get throughthis episode to pay him honor,
his family honor and the otherHortmans' honor as well.
It's about 2 in the morning.
A gunman came to the residenceof Senator John Hoffman.
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I don't know the particularsyet.
He's still in intensive care.
She got out of ICU yesterdayand was shot three times.
I don't know how many bulletsJohn had sustained.
I do see that the news reportshave bullet holes going through
their front door.
About seven of them is what Icounted.
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She took three in the stomach.
Again, I don't know how many hetook and where the other ones
went, I don't know.
The single gunman decided thathe didn't like the way, as far
as I know, and then there'sreports, like everyone else gets
the same data.
He didn't like the way.
John voted for something on theomnibus bill in the state of
Minnesota at the Senate level.
So whoever this guy is, I meanwe have suspects.
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We don't know nothing quite yet.
I mean they're pretty sure.
I mean the city of Champlins,dotted with the Flock camera
systems which I was a hugeproponent for in both cities of
mine and where I work.
I can only imagine that withthe AI camera systems that Flock
imposes it's a very high-techcamera.
You can say I want to see everycar that has a plate that
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starts with an L, or it sayspolice, or it has a roof rack,
or it's a white car, it's a bluecar.
Whatever you want to say in theAI function of this camera, it
will do so.
I do know that Champlin hasthree, four of them at all,
major intersections, which wouldbe an egress and or degress
from John's place of residenceto his next victim's house,
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which were the Hortons.
You would have to take thispath, and I know there's a
camera on that road.
This assailant, from what Iunderstand, has a police vehicle
like an ex-governmentcarscomthing, where you buy up an old
squad and you do this, you canhave lights around it.
I mean I've seen amber lightsand I've seen red lights.
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I didn't see any blue.
So I don't know where thismunicipality or this government
agency got rid of this car.
It was a Ford product.
It had license plates that saidpolice.
He was dressed in full tackuniform.
He had a vest with a cross drawon it.
If you're not weapons people, across draw is if your strong
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hand is your right, then youcross across your chest to grab
a left-handed mounted weaponwhich you'll never use with your
left hand and vice versa, and aside arm which is also strapped
to the leg.
Typical operator entrymaterials you would get as a
tactical officer, as a specialforces officer or whatever
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operative you would do.
I mean, it's all stuffeverywhere, get it anywhere.
I don't know if he was wearinga bulletproof vest no one would
know that yet because you canget the vest without the G3, g5
ratings but he either knocked onthe door or he opened the door.
All three of them were at thedoor the wife, the daughter and
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John.
So I can only imagine there wasenough time for everyone to get
up and find out what's going on.
They just got back from thiswonderful dinner that they all
had at and they get to the door.
They get to the door and therewas a scuffle of some sort.
I can only imagine that hetried to gain entry and John
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stopped the entry of it.
I mean a forceful entry, pushback, because you don't shoot
through a door unless the dooris either closed or got closed
on you.
Again, these are all theoriesuntil we have a conversation
with John.
But he shot through the door.
At that point nobody quite knowswhat's going on.
Then he goes over to theHartman's residence, which is
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about three miles, four milesmaybe, from the Hoffman
residence.
I would imagine this assailantlearned some things at the first
stop.
Maybe he didn't get enough time, maybe you know who knows Gets
in the driveway, turns thelights on, impersonating
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Hortman's, come down to thefront door, the assailant gains
entry there, he shoots them andagain there's something we don't
know.
We'll never know what's goingon on the inside.
Only the police would have thatkind of rough idea of how
things were and the way it kindof laid out.
But then, as reported by thenews, he exited the house At
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that point because the Hoffmanresidents were under police
lockdown.
The police chief of Champlinsays, hey, we should probably go
check on the next local staterepresentative, state employee.
You know the policymakers ofour city and state and
government.
Oddly enough, as they roll upthey see the lights on this
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ex-police car and they thought,okay, I mean, what else do you
think?
But there's someone alreadyhere and as soon as they pulled
up, I guess the assailantstarted gunfire towards the
police.
At that point they knew he wasthe perpetrator.
The assailant went back into theHortman's house I don't know
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for how long.
He gets out of the back of itand is on the run.
I mean, at this point he'sgotten through the house, he's
out the back.
They're calling for backup.
I'd imagine there's only two ofthem.
I mean you can't really coverboth sides until you have the
time and he leaves.
The rest is kind of like in thenews.
But I want to make you know onething really ultra clear at this
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point.
I've known John for a number ofyears.
I don't know the Hartmans.
They were scheduled to be onthe show.
I was hoping to get him on theshow and it just never got
together.
It was something that just kindof happened.
It was, you know, everybodyknows we're a very political
show, political show.
And, to be clear, john was aproponent for the 2A.
He wasn't against guns at all.
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I mean, because we always hadthis thing about.
You know, it's never a gunissue, it's a mental health
issue and this perpetratorobviously wasn't in his right
mind.
He decided that for some reason, the way they voted went
against his moral compass and hedecided he was going to clean
the plate, so to say.
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But let's go back to the actual2A thing Again.
I've been shooting with John.
He's a great shot, he's all forresponsible gun ownership and
this was obviously something wayoutside.
I hope he still has that samestance, because what a tragic
thing to go through.
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I can't even begin to thinkabout how, in your own home,
being violated at gunpoint,disabling your wife, aiming for
your child and shooting you atthe same, you know, with the
same altercation.
I mean it's, I don't know, it'sa tough one, it's a very tough
one.
But I want you to take a momentto think about your egress and
degress in your home.
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If you were in the situation.
You see lights out front.
Of course we all respect thepolice at that point and we're
going to say, okay, you knowsomething's going on.
We got to open the door, we'vegot to talk to them.
I mean, is it that point whereyou don't just open the door and
say, hey, what's going on?
I mean, would you go to thedoor with a weapon in your hand?
I mean, I think you know, ifeverybody has a close proximity
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to their protection, is it notthat?
thing, you know, as a bigstaunch gun guy myself, I don't
even travel without, I don't goto the store without.
But in your own home it's kindof a different thing.
You have this sense of security, this thing that thinks, hey,
you know, you're kind ofuntouchable in your own fortress
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.
It makes you rethink that idea.
And a lot of people say theyhome carry, I don't know, I
don't know about that.
Lot of people say they homecarry, I don't know.
Do you want to be aroundeverything all day with a weapon
on your hip or shoulder orholster or whatever it is?
I mean, it seems like a heck ofa gig to be like dealing with.
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So this leaves a lot ofquestions in everyone's mind.
Of course, our main function isto protect our own at every
cost, and I'm sure John did thatby the altercation at the front
door.
But see, they have these thingscalled combat multipliers.
The combat multiplier is anysituation where if you bring a
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slingshot, I'm going to bring abat, if you bring a bat, I'm
going to bring a bigger bat.
And then it gets to the pointwhere now I got a gun and you
got a bazooka.
Eventually you're going to runout of hardware.
Eventually that's going to bethe end of what's going on.
Then you have to have thetactical advantage, the surprise
, the combat of being able toreact instead of reaction.
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And this is all basic OperatorHandbook 101 stuff.
So there's nothing, nothing newhere.
But this guy knew this tacticaladvantage.
Sometimes I think that this guyis a ex-security of some sort.
What did he do?
How did he get this interest?
But you know, I see some flawin this logic.
What I don't understand is theguy gets a squad, he gets it lit
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up, he has a siren on it, kindof a weird siren.
It wasn't a normal siren, iswhat they're telling everybody.
He has a tactical vest.
He has again.
That's easily explainablebecause he can get it anywhere.
He was in a blue uniform.
Well, we don't know what theuniform said, but there's a lot
of blue uniforms out in theworld and if you're covered by a
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tack vest you ain't gonna knowwhat it is.
Anyway.
It could be a laundry guy or aLay's potato chips guy.
I mean, there's all kinds ofmaybes and what ifs, but blue is
easy to get.
It wasn't the normal color blueyou'd see in a police officer.
Either it's really really,really dark or it's going to be
kind of like a light blue, Atleast the ones I've seen in blue
.
He gets his vest, he covers upthe chest of himself, he's got
his cross draw, he's got his hipholster or weapon, but
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reportedly at the Hortman housethe neighbors heard gunshots.
Here's where I'm going withthis.
If you can get all this stuffand you've planned this and
you're in the security mode ofthings, and if he had this list,
which the news is saying he'shad a, he had a kill list and he
thought all this stuff out, whywouldn't you have a silencer?
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Where does can go In the worldof weapons?
The can is a silencer, so hegoes and makes all this noise
without a can on there.
He wants to go to the next onhis list without a can on there,
Eventually, other than thepolice catching up and alerting
all the House of Representativesand the senators of the state
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and the geographic locationwhere he's got this to be.
Why didn't he plan that?
Why didn't that happen?
I don't know.
I don't know that answerbecause the decisions that these
senators made at the lastomnibus bill was not too long
ago, a couple of days ago Ithink, Wednesday or Tuesday.
I mean I talked to John onWednesday and he says, yeah,
we're all done and it was.
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You know, it was an ass kickerthis time with all the things
that they had to get done.
And when he's spent like that,you know they're busy, but I
just can't figure out if you'regoing to really process this.
And a mistake well made onbehalf of John and all the other
senators that were in thattarget list.
You just don't plan like that,Not if you're an operator.
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An operator is a weaponsspecialist, a tactical entry
team, one of those guys that dothis for a living, do the whole
beard thing, and they're stillstuck in Afghanistan or wherever
they're at, whatever theoperating theater was, I don't
know.
Kind of a big thing around heretoday.
Yesterday was a day of solace.
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We've lowered our flag to halfstaff, We've urged people in the
community to do the same, and Iwant to begin to tell you about
our festival in our city thatthis happened in.
And then things kind of getbrushed under the rug.
And I'll tell you what I jumpedto high heaven on a lot of
people saying this cannot happentoday and nobody wanted to
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cancel that huge setup.
But you know he's within ourcity.
He's a sitting senator who hasworked for this city out of
respect and the fact that thisguy's still in the loose.
You know logic says you shutthat off.
You can't put that in people'sway and they were going to
continue to do it.
They even sent a police reportout saying oh, this is a good
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thing, life's good, but there'sno Salem and Cot.
I mean, you got kids, you goton that night.
They were supposed to havefireworks.
Now imagine the kind of coveryou would have if you were in
the crowd.
Think about that.
Wow, You're in the crowd,fireworks going off.
You could literally shoot intoa group of people and no one
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would hear you.
You'd be right next to this guyand he's shooting and you
wouldn't know it.
But if you can't figure out thecan process, I don't know if
you would have thought of that.
And really it was more targetedtowards political people versus
anybody.
But people like that arementally stable.
At one point does he run out ofopportunity and finds a target,
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rich opportunity like afestival or a.
You know, you can't.
It's a mental health issue.
This is not a gun issue.
There's something in this guy'shead.
It snapped.
You ain't going to figure itout, You're going to fix it.
You just got to contain theseguys.
The left's going to say, oh,we're going to do more gun
control, we're going to do thisagain.
It's not a gun issue.
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The gun was the tool used inthe crime.
It's no more than a hammerissue.
It's no more than a car drivinginto a bunch of people the one
down in Virginia that deal Likethe kid who drove into the crowd
.
Now we're going to startbanning cars.
Come on, there's got to be alittle more common sense than
this.
The left don't get it becausethey're scared of them.
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And you should be scared ofweapons, Absolutely, but you
can't be scared of the weaponitself.
You've got to be scared of thepeople behind the weapon, the
desperate people, Becausedesperate people do desperate
things.
And he made that choice, thisshooter.
What choice is he going to makenext?
Is it you?
Is it your neighbor?
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I'm kind of a big two-way carryguy myself.
I would rather have a fireextinguisher and not need it
than need one and not have it.
Yeah, it's a pain in the buttto carry.
Yeah, you got to go and certify.
And yeah, and you got to getstate certified.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's a crap show, but you caneither do that or carry
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illegally, which is now a felony.
It's always been a felony, andpeople who follow the law don't
create felonies, they follow thelaw.
I would be interested to findout what type of weapon this guy
had, Because what I saw weretwo pistols.
I did not see an AR platform, Idid not see an AK platform, I
didn't see any rifle-basedplatforms, and that'll soon come
(18:15):
out.
So think to yourself what wouldyou rather have?
The fire extinguisher or not?
What if you're in a McDonald'sand this guy?
Because state law is very, very, it's very directive on how you
can use your weapon to protectoneself of eminent harm and
danger.
And we've had a Gene German wason the show a while back a
couple years ago and we did anine-part series or seven-part
(18:37):
series of what to do and whatnot to do.
And I'm going to have him backon again, especially after this
deal.
And the law says that youcannot protect anybody else
unless it's your family and oryou.
So you're just going to standthere and let this guy pop off
kids and McDonald's because youdon't want to get in trouble.
Oh man, Can you live withyourself at that point?
(18:59):
If you can, you're on the wrongshow.
Go find somewhere else tolisten, because you're dead
wrong.
You have to engage.
Someone's life depends on it.
You're the only one that'sgoing to do it.
The police cannot do it.
The police cannot get there,they cannot precog this event.
They're there to take astatement, to write a report and
(19:19):
bag people up, because that'sliterally all they can do In the
quantum of time.
They just can't do that.
So think about that as a person, a human listening to that
gunfire, thinking to yourselfokay, what would you do in this
situation?
I mean, you've got to askyourself what would you do?
(19:41):
It's not an easy question.
You will have lawsuit afterlawsuit.
You'll have the AG coming downon you.
You'll have just because you'rethe guy who protected somebody.
And every gun trainer, whetherit's Leoso, whether it's Team
German, whether it's your localguys, will tell you the same
thing You're in for a crap show.
But is that crap show worthsomeone's life.
Are you ready to say no, I'mnot engaging this because I
(20:05):
don't want to get in trouble?
Man, you didn't get in trouble,you were already at trouble.
Trouble came to you.
Then you've got to figure outthe term FAFO, look it up.
If they're in your AO, it's Airof Operation and they come into
you and they're killing peoplearound you, would you not engage
that?
Because as soon as he sweepsthat gun in front of you, at
(20:27):
that point you have the right toprotect yourself of imminent
harm.
And you have to remember thatname because Gene says that a
lot.
Gene says you have to make it.
Say you are of imminent harmand certainly God, god, god,
when the cops get there, tellthem you had to save your life,
eminent harm, and shut up, callyour attorney.
(20:47):
At that point you will be intotal shock.
That's what Gene says.
I mean, I've never been in aposition.
You will be in total shock.
You will have to do all kindsof things.
They'll make you think you haveto answer them cops, and
they'll keep ticking you andticking you and ticking you,
before the point where they saywell, we got to know this, we
got to know that Lawyer.
Just say the words lawyer onfilm on the body action camera
(21:14):
Law lawyer and stop talking.
All this can get worked outlater.
You need to compose yourself.
Focus on what you know.
Protect your interests, becausethe interests of the family
that you shot, this poorinnocent person who's in there
shooting people up, are going tocome after you in a civil suit.
Oh, you could have used anon-lethal force.
(21:35):
You know how that crap goes,especially in Minnesota, here
with the AG Allison.
You don't know how that's goingto play out.
So protect yourself, Just closeyour mouth.
So it's been kind of a weirdweek for us.
It's been kind of a weirdcouple days.
Currently, the wife is up andabout.
Well, she's up.
(21:55):
I don't know if she's about,but she's awake.
And she's the one that tookthree to the stomach.
I have not talked to them yet.
No-transcript, Okay well.
I'm getting sidetracked.
Now let's take a break, and Ithink what I'm going to do in
the next segment here is let'stalk about the shooter, let's
(22:16):
talk about what he did, and thenwe'll talk about who he's
associated with and who he'saffiliated with, because this
will totally trip your trigger,I'd guess.
I'll take a break, we'll comeright back.
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Welcome back to HUDcast.
Okay, let's talk about this guy, this perpetrator, the shooter.
Now, all I can give you isinformation based upon out in
the world, but I can tell you bylooking at his folder, his file
, the online dossier, if youwill.
He looks like a staunch leftwith tactical experience.
(23:20):
He's not afraid to engage.
I mean that's obviously becauseof the no kings pamphlets in
his car, in his fake car, hiscop car.
I believe that was a cop car.
Have to check that one, but youdon't have 500 copies of this
if you're just going to be therewith one person.
(23:40):
So he had intentions of beingat the king's uh no king's uh
protest.
You know that.
You know the ones that are notviolent and within the law,
those kind.
And he's a 6'2", he's 200 andsome pounds 220.
He's a big guy.
I mean there's no doubt aboutthis guy is well-trained, he's
(24:04):
57 years old.
Again, I don't know why Ididn't think about doing the can
, because those are things thatyou wouldn't forget.
Now, his squad, the X squad itlooks like a Ford product, a
license plate police.
Right now it's at Twin CitiesImpound.
That's where Brooklyn Centerhas their tow trucks, that's
where they get it from, and ofcourse, that itself is a crime
(24:32):
scene.
I'm looking at the video of himwearing the mask and I can see
being at John's house, his carin the driveway, his house with
a brick in the front.
There's a lot of things there.
You've seen it, you've beenthere.
What set this guy off?
You talk to his roommates orhis roommates that get online
and they start saying he was aguy who was against abortion and
who was this?
(24:52):
That?
I, the other.
I get that.
I get.
If you've got a stance, youtake it, but you don't take it
like this.
So this Vance guy.
Let me turn to this KSTP.
They have a thing on theirwebsite.
It says authorities haveconfirmed a 57-year-old, vance
Bolter, is a suspect sought inthe connection with the
(25:14):
shootings.
Well, if you've confirmed the57-year-old that he's the
shooter, how can he be thesuspect?
I mean, of course you got tohave due process, but I think
they know more than they'retelling the rest of us.
That's to hear of statelawmakers.
Melissa Hartman and JohnHoffman were not in custody, but
the authorities say that theydid not believe he is in the
Brooklyn Park area anymore.
No, I wouldn't think this guy'sprobably in Minnesota anymore.
(25:35):
You can't write this stuff,people.
This is insane.
This is insanity to the nextlevel of why they go and target.
And if you do, look at the KSTPwebsite and you'll see I'm
looking at the door now, I'mcounting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
9, 10, 11, maybe 11 shots atthe door.
(25:56):
Now I do see that the screendoor is closed or the glass door
is closed.
He has a two-part door.
His first one is a glasscoverage like a screen door, and
I don't see any damage to that.
So I believe the door wasalready open, the first door,
and then the second door gotopened after that and then they
(26:18):
closed it or they shut it onthem or did something.
Even the glass next to the door.
I don't see I don't know if Ido see that any damage to the
glass.
I can't see that online.
So and I haven't been to thehouse yet.
So, yeah, it's, it's kind of a,it's kind of a crazy gig, but
this, this fast guy I mean, ifyou look, if you listen to his
(26:38):
online looks like he's lookingfor a job or something.
This online process of who thisis, who I am.
I mean it's common practice towhen you're looking for a job,
you start doing your interviewand listening to him.
He's not afraid of deathbecause that's his job.
He was a funeral director.
He went and gathered bodies.
(26:58):
After events it was not like athing for him, it didn't matter.
I mean to him it was justanother Thursday night.
But here's the kick in the junkon this one.
Guess who he worked for in thestate of Minnesota and this is
probably already common sense toa lot of people around here.
They've already heard theprocess, but he was appointed by
(27:20):
Governor Tim Walz to work insome part of his administration.
His term ended in 23.
He was appointed to thatposition, ended in 23.
He was appointed to thatposition and I think it was
appointed to the WorkforceDevelopment Board in 19 to 23.
And he was also in there in 16.
, 16, 19, and 23.
(27:42):
So he's no dummy.
He knows what, where and whoand how and he's well versed in
political, the political arena.
Yeah, it's kind of aed in thepolitical arena.
Yeah, it's kind of a thing.
Google his name VanceB-O-E-L-T-E-R.
And for you guys across thecountry, he's a local guy.
(28:05):
Of course he would have to beif he was appointed to a
government agency, the WorkforceDevelopment Board.
He wore a mask at Hoffman'splace.
I see the mask.
I don't know if that mask is atthe other place as well.
I don't know that, but on onepicture the NBC News has a
picture of him opening the glassdoor and knocking on the other
(28:29):
door, knocking, ringing.
What do you do at 2 in themorning?
How does that work?
You get up at 2 in the morning.
You see lights outside yourwindow.
Again, they're amber and red,not amber.
I mean, would cops have amber?
I suppose they would if theywere running their directional
beams to steer traffic on thebackside.
Their arrow stick.
They call it.
(28:50):
Yeah, they're going to catchthis guy, then they're going to
teach him the word FAFO.
I can only imagine his familyand friends and wives.
And I heard they caught.
They didn't catch.
There was a driving infractionwink, wink that his wife was
driving the car and I'm justassuming that he wouldn't have
been.
You know they would have pickedher up right away.
(29:10):
I don't know why they wouldwait.
I suppose that they couldprobably get to them Incredible,
incredible information,incredible stuff.
There's lawmakers all over thecountry.
Let's not forget that GovernorWalz was in DC getting grilled
about his activities of notfollowing the federal law just
(29:32):
the day before.
I mean, I'm not a conspiracytheorist but I find it awful odd
that all of a sudden we gotsomething in this state that's
next level, next level, and wehad a next level, which was our
governor being grilled andrightly so, by the way, by some
state, some federal senators,who were giving him the kung fu
(29:52):
like nobody's business.
I think Nancy Mace had a funnyone where she looks at Waltz and
says Waltz, tell me what awoman is.
After about three minutes ofsilence and him pondering,
looking like a fool, he says Idon't understand the question.
Well, think about that question.
And if you were in that spot,you know he's pro-anti-gender.
(30:14):
All this, whatever he does, ifyou think it, you're it.
If you're a turtle, you're it.
If you're a frog, you're it.
And if he would have answeredthat question in any other way
than X and Y chromosomes, hewould have had all these people
that he was defending and makingtheir choices for what sex they
want to be, what person theywant to be a binary, non-binary,
(30:36):
whatever that is he would havehad a problem with that.
That was a tough question and avery simple question to be in
that tough because if hisideology is so out in that field
that you can answer it withrepercussion on both sides of
that, what is a woman?
I don't know if you guys followNancy Mace.
I do.
She's out of North Carolina I'msorry, south Carolina and she's
(31:03):
a pistol.
She's one to keep an eye on.
If anybody's going to makepresident the next round, it's
going to be her.
We used to think that about theFlorida governor too, santos,
but Trump stepped on that.
One Another thing about thisassailant if they've got an APB
out in the sky and one of thepictures of him wearing a cowboy
(31:24):
hat and I don't know about anyof you guys out there, but in
Minnesota if're walking aroundcarrying a cowboy hat, you might
as well wear a 15-foot flagthat says I'm the guy that did
it.
Nobody wears their cowboy hathere.
So if he's actually stillwalking around with the cowboy
hat on, I would be verysurprised that this guy's doing
that, because there's just noway that.
(31:46):
Nobody would be that stupid.
But hey, you know that would.
Nobody would be that stupid,but hey, you know he is.
He is mentally incapacitatedright now because of what he did
.
Yeah, I don't know, it's kindof cowboy hat, minnesota.
Okay, yes, you can wear them.
Yes, that is kind of fun.
It keeps the sun off, keeps therain off, I get it.
But if you're on the lam, wouldyou really wear the a thing
(32:09):
that says I mean, I could lookat 100 people and see if there's
a hat on.
So your chances of gettingnicked are a whole lot more than
if you just didn't have one.
And you look at some of thepictures of him.
He's military somewhere.
He's got the crew cut.
I'd like to know his record.
Cfe, lebron Lamont.
Yeah, he's kind of like allover the place.
(32:30):
Okay, we've got a red liongroup.
He's Dr Vance Bolter, edd,second.
Yeah, so search him out, do alittle research on this guy if
you've got nothing to do.
But again, our hearts go out tothe guys and women who got
targeted by this POS.
Yeah, targeted by this POS.
Yeah, and, as a side note, yes,the area in which the city in
(32:56):
which he lives in did stop theirevents for the rest of the
weekend.
It was a smart move.
I don't know if I told you thatearlier in the mix, but, yeah,
kind of a thing.
His poor roommates are goingthrough a whole crap.
Show this Volter's roommates,volter, roommates Volter.
(33:17):
Yeah, okay, he's going to be onthe target of news for a long
time.
I hope that again, we don'ttake away from the evidence of
what Walt's went through,because he's Walt still has
answers to do here.
He ain't just going to skateout this, because now, you know,
my friends get shot and twoothers die because of some
mental case.
(33:37):
But we still have Waltz toanswer to and I want you guys to
hold him to fire.
Vote accordingly.
Vote someone who is out for the.
Take care of the people of thisstate.
There was some people that say,oh, thank you for your
leadership, governor Waltz.
There was no people that say,oh, thank you for your
leadership, governor Waltz.
There was no leadership here.
You're following just likeeverybody else.
You can't lead this.
(33:58):
It's all about following.
So that's about it for now.
I'm going to put a fork in thisand I hope all you have the rest
of a Father's Day, because it'skind of not going to be one for
my buddy, and I hope that youcan find it in your way to open
up a CaringBridge or a GoFundMefor him.
He's going to need some help.
It's under John Hoffman, yvetteHoffman, and it's going to be
(34:24):
for the other two as well, theHortons I'm sure they're in a
situation as well.
I mean, any bit helps, or atleast some kind words would help
.
So chime in on their sites,their websites.
Keep an eye out for this guy.
Remember a cowboy hat?
But I don't think he's going tobe wearing it.
Get to know what he looks like,because around here they kept
(34:45):
everybody in the dark for a longenough time where, if he did
walk by me, you wouldn't know it.
He'd walk up to me and sell mea bag of potato chips and I
wouldn't know who this guy wouldbe.
That's what I think localgovernment has a problem with.
I get it's an investigation,but if you can't employ the
people to say, look, keep youreyes out, this is the guy, then
(35:08):
what good is it?
What is good in having anetwork where you could
instantly hit 5,000 people on asocial media page and say this
is the guy.
Keep your eyes out, withoutlocal government freaking out,
because you're going to scarepeople.
Yeah you better be scared, youbetter be damn scared.
You better be in your house.
You better lock your doors, armyourself, but if this guy comes
(35:31):
to your door, you'll knowexactly who he is.
Not after the fact, oh hey, Ibought a watch from the guy.
He was on Marketplace and wedid a sell on his cowboy hat, I
don't know.
Okay, I'm putting a fork in itthis time.
Be well and happy if you can.
The rest of your Father's Day,reach out to your kids, hug them
(35:53):
, because right now there aretwo people that cannot.
There's one father that can't.
Mr Hartman is now in thatposition and I feel very, very
sorry for his position.
So we can do what we can do andwe can pay attention and we can
make sure that this don'thappen to someone else.
So, podcast signing off Be well, Be well, be vigilant, be aware
(36:15):
, be awake.
Sometimes you got to be mad.
Signing off and that's a wrapfor Hutcast.
Hutcast is again a pragmaticapproach to seeing things how
(36:36):
some people see them.
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