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What happens when a veteran oncologist pulls back the curtain on cancer treatment? Dr. Orlando Silva doesn't just challenge conventional wisdom—he shatters it with decades of clinical experience and a passionate commitment to patient-centered care.

Cancer is fundamentally a metabolic disease, yet this critical fact remains largely overlooked in standard oncology practice. "Traditional oncologists believe you can eat whatever you want," Dr. Silva explains, revealing how dietary interventions like ketogenic diets can starve cancer cells while nourishing patients. This represents just one of many blind spots in conventional treatment approaches.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Dr. Silva discusses powerful complementary treatments including ivermectin, fenbendazole, and mebendazole—medications with multiple mechanisms of action that can enhance chemotherapy's effectiveness while reducing side effects. He shares the remarkable story of Joe Tippins, who eliminated over 90 metastases using fenbendazole after being told nothing more could be done for his small cell lung cancer. When Tippins returned to his oncologist cancer-free, the doctor's response spoke volumes: "I don't believe in what you're doing, but don't stop."

Dr. Silva doesn't hold back when addressing the systemic issues plaguing modern medicine. He describes a "military system" where physicians follow orders rather than pursue optimal patient outcomes, and where pharmaceutical sponsorships influence treatment protocols. The human element of medicine has been systematically removed, with doctors "running like rats on a treadmill" given just 15 minutes per patient. "It takes the human out of it," he laments, emphasizing how true healing requires doctors to "cross the room, put your hand on the patient's shoulder" and show them "I'm in the ring with you."

Looking toward a brighter future for cancer care, Dr. Silva envisions an integrated approach combining conventional treatments with nutritional interventions, lifestyle modifications, and alternative therapies. His message to patients navigating cancer today is clear: explore complementary approaches that might enhance your primary therapy's effectiveness, even if it means doing so without your primary oncologist's knowledge.

Join us for this eye-opening conversation that will forever change how you think about cancer treatment, patient advocacy, and the courage required to step outside medical dogma in pursuit of healing. Subscribe now and share this episode with anyone whose life has been touched by cancer.

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Welcome to HuttCast.
Today is 8-24-25.
We got a very special guesttoday.
Broadcasting from anundisclosed location Bunker
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This is HuttCast Today.
We are joined by Dr OrlandoSilva, a very respected

(01:24):
oncologist with decades ofexperience in hematology cancer
treatments.
He has been at the front linesof medicine from Duke to Miami,
with focus on breast cancer andpatient care.
We'll cut through the medicalnoise and get his take on where
oncology stands today what'schanging, what patients really

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Speaker 2 (02:24):
Welcome back to H HeadCast Today on the phone, dr
Landy.
Dr Landy Silva, are you thereand can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yes, sir, I'm here, Looking forward to our talk
today.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, I've done some extensive research on you and I
really like what I see.
I've got your education down.
I see your board certifications.
I see your board certifications.
I see your professionalaffiliations.
I got your career and clinicalpractice work here.
So I'm going to kind of jumpinto some questions, if you
don't mind.
I don't mind at all, let's gofor it.

(02:58):
What?
The first question is who areyou?
What do you do?
Because, although I read it, mylistener says not okay, I'm a.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
I'm a internist, a physician, internist, a medical
oncologist, any hematologist andfor many years uh, I
specialized in breast cancer,although I had my certification
in all the different uh in allmy career in hematology and
oncology and I treated differentcancers as well as well as

(03:31):
hematological problems.
And currently I'm seeingpatients through Zoom, through
telemedicine.
I'm doing telehealth, helpingpatients that have issues with
turbo cancers and otherconditions secondary to vaccine
injury.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Wow.
So can you get a good grasp onthem?
On a telehealth, oh yes.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
And it's pretty comprehensive.
I go through all their medicalrecords and so it could be a
Parkinson's patient, or breastcancer or colon cancer.
I review all the PET scans, Ireview all the pathology and
then we go from there.

(04:18):
We review their treatments andthen we think of alternative
treatments to complement thechemotherapy, not necessarily to
replace it or to get rid of it.
So this is what we do we try tocomplement, like I like to say,
I like to turn over any andevery stone available to bring

(04:39):
the best to the patient as if itwere me or my family member.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Right so.
Dr, Silva, you've had decadesof experience in oncology.
From your current perspective,what are the most common
misconceptions patients and evenother physicians might have
about cancer treatment today?

Speaker 4 (05:01):
I think the misconception is some of it.
For instance, dietary you canstart with dietary.
Many of us traditionaloncologists believe that you can
eat whatever you want, ignoringthe fact that cancer is a
metabolic disease.
So that has to be taken intoaccount.

(05:22):
So diet, nutrition, is veryimportant.
For instance, to put a patientinto ketosis because ketones
prevent cancer from growing.
Cancer needs glucose and itdoesn't grow with ketones.
Usually ignore at medicalcenters and in private practice,

(05:43):
because we were never taughtthat in medical school and
because it takes a lot of timeto explain these things.
So that's one thing that weignore.
Another thing that we ignore istreatment with alternative
medicines that complementchemotherapy and radiation, such

(06:07):
as ivermectin, fenbendazole,mebendazole.
These medicines are wonderfuland they each have at least 12
different mechanisms of actionto complement chemotherapy, for
the chemotherapy to work better,for longer and with less side

(06:30):
effects Wow.
So these are things that weignore because we're just.
You know, the way that we'retrained is like a rat on a
treadmill.
Okay, and then you see the ratrunning.
They increased the treadmilland you basically have 15
minutes per patient if you'relucky, and that's horrible.

(06:54):
I mean trying to explain tosomebody that their scans show
that there's progression.
Show them where's theprogression, why there's
progression, how to take a newmedicine to attack the
progression and the side effectsof the new medicine.
How do you do that in 15minutes?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
It never happens.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, never happens, it's very difficult.
So they got us as physicians onthat, running like the rat on
the treadmill and you'recatching your breath all the
time and then they give youthese extensive notes that you
have to write for documentationpurposes and that takes more

(07:36):
time away from patient care.
It's all been planned to takethat one-on-one time, that eye
contact, the crossing the roomand putting your hand on the
shoulder of the patient andlistening to their worries,
their complaints and theirfamily members.
That has been done in amilitary sense to wipe that out.

(07:57):
For us to do our very best forthose of us that have the
vocation and love our patientsIncredible.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, they try to have the vocation and love our
patients Incredible.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, they try to kill the vocation.
It takes the human out of it.
Yeah, exactly, it'sdehumanization.
You said it perfectly.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Thank you, Tim.
Well, you said it, I justrepeated it, but it's incredible
that you know.
My next question leads intothis innovation versus tradition
.
Where do you see the biggestclashes right now between
traditional cancer protocols andemerging therapies like inhuman
therapy, precision medicine,metabolic approaches?

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Sure, I don't see any limitation at all between the
therapies.
I think we need to think ofeach person as an individual.
I don't see any limitation atall between the therapies.
I think we need to think ofeach person as an individual and
do the best for each person.
For example, lance Armstrong.
He had brain metastases.
He was cured with chemotherapy.

(09:09):
So are we going to ignorechemotherapy now?
No, we want to use the bestchemotherapy available with the
best nutritional support andother medicines that will make
it better.
How about if someone hasmetastasis to their spine?
Are we going to tell them don'tdo radiation therapy?
Of course not, because they'regoing to end up paralyzed in a
wheelchair by severing theirspinal cord.
So you want to do the radiationwith other medicines that are

(09:31):
radiosensitizers, like theivermectin and the mebendazole
and the fenbendazole.
All of these are wonderful andthey complement each other.
So the limitation that I see isin the physicians not opening
their minds, because we havebeen trained in this military

(09:54):
system the military system thatif you don't have a phase four
randomized clinical trial withthousands of patients is no good
.
So that limits you, forinstance, to the ketogenic diet
okay, or that limits you toivermectin it doesn't matter
that ivermectin won the NobelPrize in 2016.

(10:18):
It doesn't matter that I'vedone 44 medical missions and on
all my medical missions I tookivermectin and gave ivermectin
away, never saw a side effect.
That has nothing to do with thenews coming on and saying
ivermectin is so dangerous, it'shorse paste.
That's ridiculous.
Okay, but most of the peopletook it on face value and that's

(10:41):
where the greatest limitation Isee that we just take.
We're taking our education fromCNN and, furthermore, we're
taking our education fromarticles and journals that have
been compromised.
How come is it that the NewEngland Journal of Medicine the

(11:02):
greatest journal ever, just likethe Lancet okay, the Lancet had
to retract articles.
When have you ever seen that?
Okay, because they werepublishing false information.
The New England Journal ofMedicine published the article
on the vaccines with theredacted data from Pfizer.
They never saw the originaldata.

(11:24):
How is that possible?
They would have seen all kindsof side effects.
They would have seen how allthese pregnant women lost their
babies in their first trimester.
All of that would have beenpublished.
All of that was silencedbecause they didn't see it.
Call it convenience, whateveryou want, but in the end there

(11:45):
have been.
The first trimester loss wentup 40 times.
That's not 40%, unbelievable,that's 4,000% Right.
And then myocarditis and theturbo cancers.
We're seeing types of cancerswe've never seen, like stage
four colorectal cancer in 20year olds, without family

(12:07):
history.
This is not a Lynch syndrome.
No, no, no, no, de novo.
And you're wondering whathappened?
Well, you took three shots ofvenom.
They put something in the venom.
They called it mRNA, becauseit's not even mRNA, because you
make RNA, messenger RNA, and Ido, and our messenger RNA

(12:29):
circulates for four seconds.
That's it.
However, that's because a basepair called uracil that becomes
uridine is degraded in fourseconds.
But what they injected peoplewith had pseudo-uridine.
It's not even a real messengerRNA and you know what happened.

(12:52):
It's not biodegradable.
So these poor people that wereled by lies and pressure, social
pressures of losing their job,they are now, most of them,
producing uh, despite protein,the lethal protein, the toxic
protein, in continuation.
So they need to detox, theyneed to get rid of this poison

(13:15):
in their body for them and theirchildren, their loved ones
which, which goes go ahead.
No, no, I just wanted to tellyou there's not one family that
hasn't been touched.
Oh, absolutely, because mostfamilies are split down the
middle half one side, half theother.
No, you couldn't come tochristmas because you didn't
take the shot right.

(13:35):
Half the, you know right how isthat?

Speaker 2 (13:38):
even you know people are scared, not not so much.
On my radio show there are alot of people listening.
They understand both sides ofthe fence.
You either take the shot or youdon't.
And if you don't I get it, Ifyou do, I get it.
But where is patient care Inyour practice?
How do you balance the scienceof medicine with the human side,

(14:00):
delivering hard truths whilealso inspiring and installing
hope?

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Listen, that's an amazing question.
Thank you for asking me that,because I'll give you examples.
You know, when this COVID thingbroke out by May of 2020, right
at the beginning there was anarticle by an amazing infectious
disease expert one of the bestin the world from France.
His name is Didier Raoul.

(14:27):
I treated over 1,000 patients Ibelieve 1,064, and pulled them
out with the acitromycin, thehydroxychloroquine.
It wasn't a perfect study, butwe had so much data to save
lives already.
And what were we doing?
No, no, go home.
There's nothing we can do foryou.
Come back when you can'tbreathe.

(14:51):
Nobody recommended anything,nothing, not even high doses of
vitamin d.
Right, nothing was recommended.
So, and then on the other side,they were using a medicine that
had been shown to have a 53that's, a 53 mortality that was
remdesivir.
So it was okay to useremdesivir because Fauci said it

(15:15):
, okay, even though I had a 53%mortality.
However, you couldn't useivermectin because CNN said it
was horse pace.
You couldn't use thehydroxychloroquine from Dr DT's
study.
And then Dr Zelenko, a monthlater, replicated the study with
600 patients that were verysick, many diabetic and

(15:37):
intubated out of a New Yorkhospital, and he replicated the
study and still, it was no good,you know.
So these are the powers that wewere fighting and people were
just doing and following, mostlyout of fear, what was coming
from Fauci?
Because medicine is a militarysystem.

(15:59):
When you're an intern, youfollow your resident.
When you're a resident, youfollow the fellow.
When you're a fellow, youfollow the attending the
attending.
You know, it's just so.
When the CDC spoke, we alwaysbelieve we're the good guys.
You know, we're doing the bestfor our patients.
So we followed the CDC and wefollowed the NIH and because of

(16:22):
them, billions of people willdie.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Now you said a name of a doctor and I'm not going to
repeat that name.
It starts with an F.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
I didn't say doctor, I didn't use the word doctor.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Remember that.
No, this is your opinions andyou are absolutely right to
ghost him here.
But I have it on greatauthority.
He, once in a while, catches myshows.
What would you tell him?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Oh, I heard he was Catholic.
I would tell him to go toconfession and to ask for the
mercy of the Lord.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's it.
Just ask for God.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, ask for God.
There's no turning back here.
I mean he could come clean, butthe people that have this
poison in them, if they don'tdetox, many of them have
cerebral cancer, myocarditis andinfertility.
This is awful.
Yeah, it's not cancermyocarditis and infertility.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
This is awful.
Yeah, it's not an.
I'm sorry, not a.
Hey, I followed my chain ofcommand, not a.
I mean, there's a whole lot youcould say to a guy if he's
listening, even if he'slistening by proxy.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, no, I've never thought about that question.
I think it's like well, whatwould you say to Mengele to go
back?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
If you're asking me, I'd say a lot of things, but I'm
that guy.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Right.
Well then we need you.
We need you to give good ideas,because Mengele killed millions
, but this guy's taken outbillions.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, but Mengele's dead, the F is alive.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
I love this conversation.
Those are great points.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
I've done a couple in my day.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Let's shift gears.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Here we are at number five on my question list.
Okay, After number five I'mgoing to take a mid-break, I'm
going to do some promo and thenwe'll come back with the
holistic view.
So my last question for thissection is research and
controversy.
Some doctors and researchersare revisiting old therapies,

(18:25):
ones to miss way back in thepast.
They don't use them anymore, sodo you think that that medicine
has been too quickly discarded?
Those approaches, and whydidn't they fit in the
mainstream narrative at thattime?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Sure.
So do you want me to answerthis now or after the break?
No, let's do this now.
Oh, okay, well, I don't knowwhat the powers that were at the
time.
Sometimes you revisit studiesand when you read the fine print
, you find that things weren'treally evaluated properly, that

(19:02):
there were all kinds ofpressures from the sponsors of
the trial, and so sometimes youfind things that are worth
revisiting because some of thedata was incorrect and that's
why that idea was canceled.
You know, like I'll give you aperfect example,

(19:28):
hydroxychloroquine workedmodestly, not as well as
ivermectin.
However, it saved a lot oflives.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Now there was an article that they published that
hydroxychloroquine didn't workand it caused toxicity.
Well, when you read the fineprint, they use four times the
dose they used them.
That's not right.
That's not the dose ofhydroxychloroquine.
So then people say, no, no,hydroxychloroquine has been
thrown out.
That's not the dose ofhydroxychloroquine.
So then people say, no, no,hydroxychloroquine has been
thrown out.
That's not true.

(19:58):
You didn't read the article,you didn't understand what
happened.
This was completely manipulateddata.
So sometimes you can go backand see that there's some data
that wasn't interpretedcorrectly and used incorrectly.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Now you say interpreted.
You say interpreted, I've gotto catch you on that one yeah
Interpreted or transmittedincorrectly.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well, actually transmitted.
In that case, it was donepurposefully wrong and
transmitted incorrectly.
So weaponized, exactly,weaponized, militarized that's
the system that we have inmedicine, which is very sad,
it's incredible.
So weaponized, exactly,weaponized, militarized that's
the system that we have inmedicine, which is very sad.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's incredible, isn't it?
Yes, sir, I can't.
You know, I've done enough ofthese shows.
And I talk to a lot ofintelligent people like yourself
, and you sit back and you pumpthe brakes and go.
Really, what are these guysthinking?
And again, again, the wifegives me crap all the time.
She says, uh, the covid, theshots, mrna, it's all dead stuff
right now.
And I said I don't think it is.

(21:00):
Yeah, it's not over, it's notover.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
We don't even know what's over yet right, because
there's uh studies coming outthat even at three years okay,
over 900 days, over three yearspeople are still producing the
spike protein.
These are people that only tooktwo shots.
So there are people that I'mseeing, patients that have taken

(21:25):
four or five.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Whoa.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Even young people.
And I always say the same thingwhy did you take number five?
You know it's like.
Is it that number four didn'twork?
Of course you know it's like.
You know when did the brick hityou?
You know these young people.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I get it.
You want to do what's right,you want to follow your leaders,
but I have to keep remindingthem that their leaders are not
political.
Their leaders are doctors andthe doctors shouldn't be
following the political leadersExactly.
They need to follow the peopleof the law.
I mean God's law.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, it wasn't Democrat or Republican.
Nope, this was medical, thiswas about human beings, period.
Yep, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Absolutely Okay.
Did that clear up that lastquestion to your satisfaction?
Yes, sir, okay, we are 19minutes and 57 seconds into this
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What an excellent opportunity tohave some questions answered by
a wonderful human being, drLandy.
Thank you, can you hear me okayAgain being Dr Landy?
Thank you, can you hear me okayagain?
Yes, sir, okay, I had toreposition mics.
I had to pay the neighbor toget $10 to mow later the whole
deal.
It was kind of a thing.
Okay, all right.
Now when I get back, I want totalk about holistic view, but

(24:28):
first I want to hit the topic ofsystematic barriers.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
What role?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
do you believe healthcare system, insurance
companies, pharmaceuticals, etcetera, and regulatory bodies
plays limiting or advancingpatient care?
Because this is kind of a bigone and don't put your license
in jeopardy answering it, so ifyou can't answer, I got you.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
No, I think we're compromised by our sponsorship.
Most major medical centers aresponsored by big pharma and
things like that, and theperfect example is the story of
Joe Tippins.
Is the story of Joe Tippins.

(25:12):
So, as we all know and you canlook it up, Joe Tippins was a
gentleman with small cell lungcarcinoma that had progressed
and had more than 90 metastasesin his body and essentially they
told him there's nothing elsefor you.
And he's the one that went home,spoke with a friend.
He had lost close to 70 pounds,and he spoke to a friend who he

(25:36):
had lost close to 70 pounds,and he spoke to a friend who was
a veterinarian and told him hey, listen, there's this thing
called fenbendazole thatdisappears tumors in animals,
and he said I'll try it.
So he started doing thefenbendazole, along with a
couple other things.
He went back to MD Anderson andthree months later and they

(25:59):
said, hey, whoa, you're here,yeah, I'm here.
And then they scanned him andhe said, oh, your tumors are
shrinking.
Three months later, there wereno tumors left and his attending
there which I understand wassomeone important and MD

(26:24):
Anderson told him listen, Idon't believe in what you're
doing, Don't stop.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Really.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Don't stop doing it.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, I don't believe what you're doing, but don't
stop it.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Don't stop doing it.
Yeah, I don't believe whatyou're doing, but don't stop it,
don't stop.
And when I heard that statementit it almost made me want to
cry wow because the right answershould have been hey, buddy,
what are you doing?
Teach me andy anderson.
We're here to save millions oflives.
Tell me what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yep, teach me this method.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
What are you doing?
I mean, let's go out there andlet's beat cancer.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
There's no money in that.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Right, but because of sponsorship and the way things
are done and because howpolitically incorrect these
medicines became, we becamesoldiers that march to that and
we follow this line and there'sonly one line, but there should
be many lines that come togetherfor the betterment of our

(27:27):
patients.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, I understand the word of infinity.
I mean not to insult you, butthe word infinity in the
electronics world.
That's a way of tracing a line,a signal.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
That never ends, never crosses path with the left
or the right.
Infinity open Right, and itsounds like medicine has this
infinity directive.
Instead of crossing lines andtrying to figure out how this
works, communicating it's just.
Does that sound like that toyou?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yes, but those lines can be shattered, and that's
what we're doing today.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Good, that's what we're doing today, me and you,
yes, on this show, so thatmillions of people can hear this
.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yes, sir, and that's what Joe Tippins did six years
ago and he's alive six years agoand he did it and he shattered
that.
Some people didn't see it, butmany of us who are awake and
looking for the well-being ofhumanity, saw it.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Dr Brian Artis has been on my show many times.
We talk on a regular basis.
He's a good guy.
I love him to death and everytime he comes on, my ratings go
through the roof.
So I gotta love the guy, right,yeah?
And we have these conversationsand you brought him up and I
just thought, yeah, I shouldprobably touch base and let
people know that he's stillaround.
We love him to death and weshould have him on the show

(28:54):
again and see what's new in theworld.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
He had the symposium a couple months back, but last
Saturday, august 16th, him and Iwere on a lecture series
together.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
With also Dr Judy Mikevitz and other people.
It was great.
It was great.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Uh, are you ready for my next uh point of view?
Yes, sir.
Okay, it's kind of a holistickind of view Now.
Now, do you believe thatlifestyle, nutrition,
environmental uh factors are arebeing under evaluated in
ecology?
Because if so, what would youchange and how would you treat

(29:34):
to prevent that as a cancer?

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Well, great question.
Yes, for instance, I went tosome of the best universities in
the world.
We never were taught nutrition.
This is one of these thingsthat was completely taken off
the table and then and this hasa lot of ramifications things
that was completely taken offthe table and then and this has

(29:58):
a lot of ramifications.
For instance, somewhere on the1960s, seed oils that were toxic
and inflammatory to our bodywere introduced into the
American diet.
Food coloring was introducedinto the American diet, into the
American diet.
Food coloring was introducedinto the American diet.
We were taught to eat dietsthat were low in fat.

(30:21):
So we needed fats for the brainand fats are healthy, and we
needed good oils, not the badoils, not the vegetable, burnt
seed oils that they wereintroducing to us.
So all of this created aninflammatory process in our body
that really had.
That was the root, and theinflammation led to diabetes, a

(30:42):
fatty liver diabetes.
It led to cancer, it led toheart disease and it led to
Alzheimer's.
It's all one disease.
It's different manifestationsof inflammation.
Okay, so we were never taughtthis.
We were never really taughtbasic things like vitamin D, how

(31:04):
important vitamin D is, thatvitamin D controls about 2,400
genes of your immune system andthat what we need is to have a
vitamin D level of close to 100or over 100, minus 134.
Imagine when they reported onthe autopsy series of over 300
people that were studied andrestudied by Dr McCullough and

(31:28):
colleagues and they looked atthe vitamin D levels no one with
a vitamin D level of over 50died from COVID.
Imagine what we needed wasvitamin D Interesting.
I mean so many basic things.
You know it's like.
If you need a vitamin D, if youhave good solid levels of

(31:51):
vitamin D, why would you everneed a flu shot?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Right right.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
So it's all a circle that they have put us in, to run
in that circle like the rat onthe treadmill.
Yeah, I see.
Yeah, we need to open thatcircle and allow things like
change the way we eat.
Think about this butter, realbutter from grass-fed cows.

(32:19):
It's one of the healthiestthings you can eat.
It's wonderful for you.
It's great to fry.
As opposed to remember.
I don't know your age, but Iremember when I was a kid that
margarine was the way to go.
Margarine is like one stepremoved from plastic and it has
seed oils and I'm like I look atit now, but back then I thought

(32:41):
margarine was the bomb.
But they have brought us intothis circle that it all led to
inflammation, and so I'm sorryif I went off topic.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
No, you're good, You're good.
You know you keep saying thisright on the wheel.
And all I think of is infinity.
Yeah, there's no crossing theline, it's just there all the
time.
One direction, yeah, but we canshatter it.
We can shatter it, sothrowing'll throw in another

(33:13):
question at you not to spin youback to this thing the future of
oncology.
Now, let's put this thing intooverdrive by about 20 years Into
the future.
What would you like to see?
The standard of care for cancertreatment?
Now, we kind of got the gist ofwhat you're saying, but this is

(33:33):
more of a direct.
What would you hope to leavebehind also, I mean, it's go
ahead.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Well, first, I would hope that in the next 20 years,
with the changes that are beingmade by eating healthy oils,
removing food coloring anddecreasing the inflammation,
there will be a lot less casesof cancer.
That's one.
But I would hope that cancercare in the future would involve

(34:06):
a multidisciplinary system thatwould include more than
chemotherapy, radiation surgery.
It would include, besides,perhaps, a good study, because
there have been some greatstudies of medicines, like with
Herceptin and breast cancer.
Okay.
So, besides including that arm,including the arm of

(34:32):
alternative medicine, okay.
So like, for instance, fasting.
Why, why are we ignoringfasting in patients that are
stage one, extremely healthy,that can handle a five day fast
to go into, you know, autophagyand mitophagy and do much better
when the chemotherapy starts,you know.

(34:55):
So I believe that in 20 years,oncology is going to look a lot
different because we'll beincorporating many alternatives
that are going to fight thecancer at the metabolic level
shutting down its stem cell,shutting down its growth,

(35:17):
changing its environment for itto be no longer to grow and to
reverse to undergo death.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Sure, sure.
Now.
What would you leave behind?
What would you want to stop?
What do you mean?
What would you want to stop?
What do you mean?
What would you want to stop?
What would you want to hope isleft behind in the future of our
college, Like you don't want touse it anymore.
You want it to go away.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Well, I would love for the medical system to be an
open system for the best, forevery stone to be unturned for
every patient, for all thesethings to be available for
patients, and when you went toget the best care, you got all
the care all the best care.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
So, to break it down, you would want the medical
industry to adapt alternativemethods.
Yes, to adapt to the truth, Iwould want the patients to
receive the truth, so leavebehind this systematic infinity
of medicine right, because asyou go on, there's going to be

(36:25):
more things that come up.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
There are wonderful, you know things like.
I was just reading an articleit was a case study how a lady
with brain metastases from lungcancer her lung metastases
reduced only by her doingmolecular hydrogen gas tablets.
Really Okay, yeah, wonderful,and I'm finding more studies on

(36:51):
cancer and molecular hydrogen.
Why are we ignoring that?
Okay, so I would hope that in20 years, when this comes up, it
could be incorporated in asystematic way to help patients.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Nice, nice, good answer.
Okay, the next one.
Next one's kind of tough, doc,and it ain't going to be all
softballs in this show.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I thought they were pretty tough already.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Okay, now this is a medical ethics question.
Sure, the only people that cananswer this are the people that
make decisions.
Life and death, that's you guys.
I mean.
I don't do this for a living.
I talk on the radio and I buildhot rods in cars and I'm a gun
salesman.
That's you guys.
I mean.
I don't do this for a living.
I talk on the radio and I buildhot rods in cars and I'm a gun
salesman.
That's what I do.
But the question here is inoncology, you're often dealing

(37:41):
with life and death decisionsevery day.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
How do you?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
handle the ethical dilemmas where the best
treatment isn't always clear-cut.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Well, the way I have done it in my practice is you
try to individualize the patientand their family, their age,
their status, and to do what isbest for them and to deliver
news with a lot of humanity,with kindness because there's

(38:17):
many ways of delivering newsthat you're at the end of the
road, or this has too muchtoxicity, or this is not going
to help you, because of A, b andC, but with a lot of tenderness
and a lot of love.
Okay, a, b and C, but with a lotof tenderness and a lot of love
.
Okay, there's patients thatcame to me that said I'm here

(38:37):
because my last oncologist toldme to go pick out my plot at the
cemetery.
Okay, and I said, oh, wow, oryou know, I mean, these are real
stories.
Yes, they are, you know, andthere are many wonderful,
beautiful oncologists out therewith a great vocation.

(38:58):
It's just they're just lookingin one direction and once they
just turn their head and theysee that there's so much to do
to save so many more lives, theywill jump on that bandwagon in
a heartbeat, because they justhave hearts of gold and they're
just been indoctrinated.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, I don't believe any doctor gets into this to
ignore the human side of this.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
I don't.
That's the whole point of this.
Yeah, I agree.
And so when it comes down, youneed to, you know, cross the
room, put your hand on thatpatient's shoulder and speak to
them and their family and seewhat their wishes are and do the
best for them to integrate thebest possible care not shutting

(39:48):
doors, but trying to open doors.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
And possibilities for them.
You ever take a patient, putyour hand on his shoulder and
bring him into a hug, becausehe's that destroyed.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Oh, yes, many times.
I never had a patient, I didn'thug.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Okay, see, that shows the human part.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's worth something, that's worth
everything to me.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah, well, the patient needs to know that
you're in the ring with him yesif you're just sitting in your
chair by your computer andyou're telegraphing these news
like punches.
You have progressed, there's nomore treatment, you're going to
die.
We're recommending hospice.
You just kill that guy.

(40:34):
That guy's dead in front of you.
Okay, so it's.
That is one thing.
Now, when you walk across theroom and you put that hand on
the shoulder, that means buddy,I'm in the ring with you, okay.
So these things are, are veryimportant, and that's not just

(40:55):
to do on the last visit, that'sto do on every visit.
The thing is that that takestime, my dear tim.
It takes time, and they got youon the wheel right, right, I
get that Infinity again.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
That was a tough question, wasn't it?

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Yeah, it was.
It brought back many memoriesand it's a tough moment when you
get there, because your dreamis always to get them to one
more Christmas, to one morebirthday, to one more graduation
.
You know you're always, you'refighting for that all the time.

(41:39):
That's what you hope and prayfor.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Excellent question, I'm sorry.
Excellent answer to thatquestion.
I'm just I'm kind of welling uphere a little bit because
everybody's been touched by it,like you said earlier.
Yes, sir, now a personalperspective.
What drew you into thismedicine, specifically oncology,
and was there a defining momentin your life and career that

(42:04):
says you know what?
I made this choice and it's theright path?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Sure, I'll tell you, my mom died when I was young and
my father's a medicaloncologist, okay, and he used to
take me on rounds with him andI used to see how he used to
touch a patient, hug them, kissthem.
He great, great oncologist, andhe inspired me because of the

(42:31):
human part, not only becauseoncology had new drugs and new
things, hopefully new hopes forpeople to live longer and better
, but because there was a humanside, almost as a country doc,
you know, when country docs getto the end, they go visit their
patients at home and I have totell you I did visit many of my

(42:55):
patients at home when they werein hospice.
I would go by and sit with themand have a cup of coffee with
them and talk to them and Iwould go to their funerals.
And it's very hard because atsome point and I would go to
their funerals, and it's veryhard because at some point I was
really, uh, very, very, verysad, but by this, but it was
amazing.
I remember being at one of themand and hearing, um, uh, a lady

(43:17):
said can you believe the doctorcame to dad's funeral.
That's how special, that's howspecial my dad was, wow.
So it makes a real differencefor the entire family and it
helps them with that circle oflife.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, I can imagine that Very difficult.
It's a difficult time foreverybody involved.
It's not like an episode ofHouse where you come in and kick
everybody's ass and you're theshittiest doctor for bedside but
you're the best brilliant mindin the world.
It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
No, but it would be great to have that brain.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I can't dispute that one.
Yes.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yes, that sounds very Now.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
If you had one piece of advice for the patients and
families navigating cancer rightnow and there's people
listening what's that one pieceyou would wish everyone you
could hear Now, don't spin off.
I want a direct, 10-secondanswer because this is a very
important question, and they arelistening.

(44:26):
What would they say?
What would you say to them?

Speaker 4 (44:29):
I would tell them, I would ask them to look for
alternatives to combine withtheir therapies to make those
therapies work better.
Things like ivermectin,fenbendazole, mebendazole,
things like melatonin at highdoses has anti-cancer activity,
and many, many other things likethat.

(44:51):
For instance, for parkinson'spatients.
I have seen incredible resultswith a nicotine patch.
I mean, I would just tell themyou know, and I have patients on
carbidopa, levodopa, the theparkinson's medicines doing
great with a nicotine patch.
So these are things that Iwould tell them.

(45:12):
Open up, look more.
And unfortunately, some of thetimes, you can't tell your
physicians all the things thatyou're doing.
Because I've had experienceswhere a patient told me well, my
oncologist just kicked me outof the office for using
ivermectin.
Wow, he says he can no longertreat me Whoa.
Experiences where a patienttold me well, my oncologist just
kicked me out of the office forusing ivermectin, he says he
can no longer treat me.

(45:32):
Whoa, yeah, because these arepolitical decisions, they're not
medical decisions.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Keep it to yourself.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Yeah, sometimes that's what you have to do,
unless there's an open doc thatsays you know, and you can tell
the open docs.
You can mention, hey, my friendhad ivermectin, and you open up
the door and you'll see whetherhe or she is going to tell you
don't do that, that's poison.
Cnn says not to do it.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Or you're going to have someone that says look, if
you're going to do something,I'm okay with it.
I just want the best for you.
You know.
Let me know what you're doingso I can look at the side
effects and see how it interactswith what I'm doing.
There's an open door there.
You know.
You explore with a patient,with their you know alternatives
.
So that's what I would do witha patients Invite them to dig

(46:29):
deeper and fight harder.
Looking for research meaning inthe research arena.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Wow, isn't that something?
I often define the word, likethe dictionary does for the
Webster's compassion.
Compassion is the meaning, thevery definition, and people
don't really understand it.
I mean it's the sympatheticconsciousness of others

(46:59):
distressed, together toalleviate it.
So, in a nutshell, thecompassion is sharing the trauma
, the wins, the you know, thesufferings, the misfortunes.
I mean it's just a lot ofpeople forget that.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
And in this field of opening up these horizons for
this patient, we have to speakabout Dr Mackes.
William Mackes has been reallya guiding light in this field.
He has been wonderful and Ijust got to tell you, at Grave
Care with Priscilla, we'rereally doing everything we can
also to provide thesealternatives for the patients,

(47:42):
for them to have a better shot,and, by the grace of God, we
have seen some beautiful results.
We have lost some patients, butwe have seen some really truly
amazing results.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Well, hud-cast is a full supporter of Priscilla and
Grief Care.
They are one of our sponsors.
What more can I say?
I mean, they're aces with us,yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, they're great.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Is there any type of book?
We're going to plug you alittle bit here.
Book website is it through theGrave Care?
Are you one of their members?
How does this work with you?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yeah, I work strictly through Grave Care.
With Grave Care right now we'regetting patients from all over
the world, actually from Germany, lebanon, italy, israel and all
of the United States.
We're getting patients fromUruguay.
People are reaching out andwe're doing the best that we can
for all of them.
I speak Spanish as my firstlanguage, english and Italian is

(48:48):
my third language and I do okaywith French, and so we're
helping all the patients that wecan that reach out.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
That's awesome.
You mentioned every countryHUTCAST has been in is still in
Beautiful.
I love it, isn't that weird?
You're like, okay, we've gotUruguay, I'm counting off as
you're listing off thesecountries.
Oh, that's fantastic.
So I would only hope thatHUDCAST would have a small hand
in this endeavor, which you guysdo.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Yeah, hopefully we can get to a lot of patients
through your voice.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
It's through your voice.
I'm just the reporter.
My job is not to be the news,but to report the news.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
There you go, thank you.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Okay, what do we got here?
Oh, 25 in this section.
I was going to keep it nice andshort, but you're such an
interesting guy I had to askthese questions.
You're incredible.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
Well, Huttcast is going to pullup in unless you've got nothing
else to say.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Doc, no, just many blessings to you, your family
and all those that are listening.
Many blessings to all of them.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I'll get this edited up and I'll send you a private
link where you can listen to it.
Okay, thank you, sir.
Have a great day.
The honor's mine.
Thank you, sir, and that's awrap for HuttCast.
Huttcast is again a pragmaticapproach to seeing things how

(50:16):
some people see them.
If you like our show, give us athumbs up on the Facebook site
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