December 31, 2020 • 13 mins
We close out our first season of Hyphenated Life life with a look to the future; the future of a world post-pandemic, the future of this podcast's second season, and with questions of the future abounding but hope even more.
A favorite 2020 meme we consider: If you're going down a river at 2 mph and your canoe looses a wheel, how much pancake mix would you need to re-shingle your roof?
This is 2020 in a fun math problem!
In this last episode of our inaugural season, we close out the year with some fun conversation between Andrew and David. We recognize the difficult times 2020 has given us and the world yet with a hopeful eye toward what has the potential to be a better-than-ever future because of the lessons learned in struggle and calamity this past year.
Thanks to everyone who helped make Hyphenated Life a reality this year.
We're looking forward to the second season kicking off in early February. We hope you'll join us for this next chapter in our journey as we continue to explore the space between the sacred and secular. Cheers to everyone who has been a part of our journey and cheers to this being only the beginning!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks to Esquire magazine.
There truly is no better way togauge how twisted they say our
2020 brains are than to look atthe means.
We've used to define our yearand there are a lot of them out
there.
And one of my favorites andmaybe because my beautiful son
has struggled in fourth grademath this year.
(00:21):
And so has his dad trying tohelp him, but one of my
favorites, this one 54.
Hey, you are the lucky winner.
See if you can answer this one,though.
Okay.
If 2020 was a math problem, ifyou're going down a river at two
miles per hour and your canoeloses a wheel, how much pancake
(00:43):
mix would you need to reshingleyour roof?
That pretty much sums it up.
Now that's a total brainscramble.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I lost you at the pancake mix.
I think
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Definitely my go-to 2020 meme.
That's for a lot of differentreasons because it makes zero
sense.
Of course, is that the answer iszero.
I think it is 2020 equals zero.
Okay.
Well, not totally.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Let's not lose all home mathematically.
It's not
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Accurate.
We'll happy new year's Eveeverybody from hyphenated life.
We're just over here trying toconsole each other and lick our
2020 wounds.
And we can't get to 20, 21 fastenough.
Right?
Hope Springs, eternal it's
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Long year, Andrew, for sure, with a lot of just
major milestones of every kind,every shape, every size.
Um, we were sitting here, youknow, less than one day to go
till 2020 is officially in therear view mirror.
Obvious, just it's just a milemarker.
(01:57):
It's like getting to 500 homeruns in baseball.
I know some people think that'spretty meaningful, but is it
really that much more impressivethan 499 runs?
I don't know, could bedebatable.
You have your Rockies hat,Colorado Rockies hat on today.
Um, but I think that 2021 willbe a very different year than
(02:20):
2020.
And, uh, so we're here todaykind of looking back on the year
that was 2020, um, for us, forhumanity, for Andrew, for David,
for, uh, pine street church forhyphenated life hyphenated life
was born this year just a fewmonths ago.
Um, it was, you know, in utero,uh, in gestation, you know,
(02:46):
growing all its critical organsand everything for, for quite
some time before that.
But um, this year for us,something to really, really look
back on in a, in a reallyamazing of way is that this
podcast was born, um, back inmid-October we release our first
episode and, and haven't stoppedsince we've had something come
(03:08):
out every Thursday.
And here we are in the lastThursday of the year, the last
day of the year releasing thelast episode of season one of
hyphenated life.
And I, for one, couldn't behappier.
Couldn't be more grateful,Andrew, for you.
Um, for our producer, PhilNorman, for our executive
(03:28):
producer, Alexi Molden for, youknow, various other folks who
have helped, uh, steer the shipalong the way it's, uh, it's
such an amazing thing andsomething, I think that I will
always look back on 2020 as afond, as a wonderful, I look
back fondly and it's a wonderfulthing that we've been able to
(03:51):
accomplish here.
And, uh, and now we have 2021with one season, you know, in
the bag, uh, our shoes arebroken in.
We're ready to, uh, continue onthis journey.
Um, looking ahead to 2021, andobviously this pandemic has been
all encompassing it's it's, uh,infected everything, not just
(04:15):
virally the virus infecting ourbodies and our loved ones.
And in, in that, but it's, it'sin everything in our lives top
to bottom.
Um, and we have this, uh, newhorizon, so to speak of 2021,
the vaccines are on the way tosave the day and, uh, we will be
(04:37):
turning a corner.
Um, at some point this year,things are going to be very
different this time, this day,next year.
And you know, I'm mentioning howmuch I'm, I'm grateful or proud
of hyphenated life andeverything we've done, but
there's also, I think, you know,there was a lot of discussion
early on in the pandemic aboutthe idea that could there be any
(05:00):
good that comes from this, fromthis great pause, um, a return
to simplicity, you know, a focuson our life at home rather than
our life at work.
Um, you know, what has thispandemic brought to light?
You know, all of our nation'schildren are going to school on
a video conferencing meeting.
(05:21):
Oh man.
Um, you know, what, what doesthat mean?
Like what does that like put inyour face maybe a little bit
more like how critical havingaccess to the internet is for
the wellbeing of our children.
If you don't have the internet,you can't go to school now and
you can't go to school you'releft behind.
Um, that type of lasting impactis, is wild.
(05:43):
But maybe what this does is, isput a magnifying glass on some
of these things and enable us to, to really try harder and to do
better, to do our best.
Um, and sometimes you need thatmagnifying glass to help you
kind realize where, where yourshortfalls are culturally,
individually.
And so I I'm hopeful that in theend, there is an opportunity to
(06:08):
be better on the other side ofthis, right.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Love that sense of optimism and hope.
You know, as you're talkingabout this, I certainly, as a
parent, I'm thinking about howcrazy-making, it has been so
much of this year to manage workand parenting homeschooling with
kids in different grades anddifferent aptitudes and all of
that.
But I'm thinking too today, ifthere are teachers that are
(06:34):
listening on this new year'sEve, or whenever you're
listening to this, we are sograteful for you.
And I keep thinking about PeteBuddha, judge, who was just
named well nominated for atransportation secretary in this
incoming Biden administration,uh, who wants said, you know,
this in this past campaignseason, that teachers ought to
(06:55):
be honored like soldiers andpaid like doctors.
And, um, I thought that was sucha great way to summarize how
essential and how amazingteachers have been during this
crazy season during this batcrap crazy season.
Um, and I'm so grateful as aparent for them, but also
(07:16):
thinking about some of theinequities that have been
exposed in our education system.
Fortunately, we live in a stateColorado where I believe 90% of
households have access to highspeed internet.
That's fairly extraordinary.
And we still have a long way togo in our state, but thinking
about families that don't andhow hard this has been in
families who are workingmultiple jobs, that don't have
(07:39):
the luxury of being at home withtheir, with their kids, you
know, during this onlinelearning season, um, our hearts
not just go out to them, butwhat do we do in our society to
bridge those inequities, to makethat gap, to make that hyphen
space in terms of racial andeconomic inequality lesser.
(07:59):
So, um, so so many things thatare brought to bear this year,
certainly it's been a bleak yearand I, I know that's been the
case for so many of us and wewonder not just about how that's
going to impact our children'sacademic progress or regression.
However you want to look at it,but I, you know, taking time, as
(08:19):
you said that, great pause,capital G capital P of asking
ourselves those big questions,who do I want to be?
What do I want my life to beabout?
And what has this time, if wecan see it as a gift, you know,
it's, we can't be thankful foreverything.
I don't think we can say we canbe thankful for a global
pandemic in 2020, but we can begrateful in all things as the
(08:43):
great Saint Paul wants put it.
And there's some nuance in that.
So what are the gifts of such ableak and hard and difficult
year?
Uh, what can we use for goodgoing forward?
And some of those big questionsthat we ask ourselves
personally, that we ought to beasking ourselves socially, in
terms of racial and economicjustice in our world, we can be
(09:05):
better and we will be better andwe can do better.
And we will.
And I think that's part of thepromise.
You know, there's nothingmagical about turning the
calendar right.
Of, of January one, but there'ssomething about having a clean
slate, even if, no matter howartificial it is in terms of
the, of the calendar date, wealways have the chance to begin
(09:26):
again and to start a fresh, um,and for a lot of folks during
this time of year, I don't knowif those of you who are
listening are new year'sresolution people, uh, new
year's resolutions people, butif you are go for it and if
you're not, uh, it's okay to, uh, we have a chance though, to
(09:46):
start collectively, uh, movingtoward hopefully what will be a
post pandemic era and to bebetter human beings because of
it, uh, going forward, despiteall the hardship that everyone's
endured this year on all sortsof different levels.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So as we look ahead to all of these new beginnings,
these new opportunities to bebetter, uh, we're, we're closing
the book on chapter one ofhyphenated life, season one is
in the bag and we have beenworking behind the scenes here
planning for season two forseveral months.
Now, actually, we've got aawesome, awesome lineup of
(10:24):
guests that I think all of thelisteners out there are going to
really, really enjoy and, andhave opportunity to grow and be
inspired from, um, in that, thatis looking ahead, that is
basically the theme of oursecond season, recognizing
what's on the horizon is the newhorizon.
And so we're, we're lookingahead to what is, what
(10:47):
opportunities exist out there.
What are people doing who areshaking the trees and doing good
work on the other side of all ofthis?
Um, because there are thoseopportunities and people are
doing it.
And we want to, we want to sharethat with you.
We want to learn about itourselves.
So season two of hyphenated lifewe'll, we'll begin, um, early
(11:08):
February, we're gonna take themonth of January off from
releasing episodes.
So you can, uh, put it on yourcalendar.
First Thursday of February,February 4th, hyphenated life
season two will begin.
And, um, it's going to be, it'sgoing to be an exciting, hopeful
and inspirational season for us,and we hope for you as well.
(11:32):
And thank you all for being onthis exciting ride with us,
Speaker 1 (11:36):
For sure.
Thanks to all of you who havebeen so gracious to follow us on
Facebook and Instagram.
Uh, and you can find ustoo@hyphenatedlife.org, but
thank you.
So to all of you listening, whohave been our core supporters
here in the early going, uh, ininning one I'm baseball fan.
So we just finished the firstinning, let's say, uh, but we're
(11:57):
so grateful for all of you whohave become, uh, fans and
followers of hyphenated life foryour thoughtful responses.
Uh, and we welcome, uh, yourresponses and how we can improve
this podcast.
As we take a next step into thesecond inning season two of
hyphenated life.
And we also especially want tothank all of our season one
(12:17):
guests to Jonathan Lee Waltonand bill Leonard from Lake
forest to David plazas from theTennessee and in Nashville to
Susan Woodward, Springer priest,and a wonderful friend of the
podcast here in Boulder,Colorado to Liz Meyer Bolton to
the salt project to GeorgeMason, Wilsher Baptist church,
Dallas to Holly Hollman of BJC.
(12:40):
Am I leaving out anybodyWaverley math?
Yes.
Waiver our very own WaverleyMatthews here from pine street
church, uh, who leads art brunchon Sunday for our congregation
and the WEMA art asylum, uh,Waverley.
Thank you.
It's been a great season one, agreat beginning, uh, organic
build and thanks to all of youfor listening and supporting us.
(13:01):
We are grateful and let's domore of this.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Keep living in the hyphen happy new year, everybody
happy new year[inaudible].
Thanks to Esquire magazine.
There truly is no better way togauge how twisted they say our
2020 brains are than to look atthe means.
We've used to define our yearand there are a lot of them out
there.
And one of my favorites andmaybe because my beautiful son
has struggled in fourth grademath this year.
(00:21):
And so has his dad trying tohelp him, but one of my
favorites, this one 54.
Hey, you are the lucky winner.
See if you can answer this one,though.
Okay.
If 2020 was a math problem, ifyou're going down a river at two
miles per hour and your canoeloses a wheel, how much pancake
(00:43):
mix would you need to reshingleyour roof?
That pretty much sums it up.
Now that's a total brainscramble.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I lost you at the pancake mix.
I think
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Definitely my go-to 2020 meme.
That's for a lot of differentreasons because it makes zero
sense.
Of course, is that the answer iszero.
I think it is 2020 equals zero.
Okay.
Well, not totally.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Let's not lose all home mathematically.
It's not
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Accurate.
We'll happy new year's Eveeverybody from hyphenated life.
We're just over here trying toconsole each other and lick our
2020 wounds.
And we can't get to 20, 21 fastenough.
Right?
Hope Springs, eternal it's
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Long year, Andrew, for sure, with a lot of just
major milestones of every kind,every shape, every size.
Um, we were sitting here, youknow, less than one day to go
till 2020 is officially in therear view mirror.
Obvious, just it's just a milemarker.
(01:57):
It's like getting to 500 homeruns in baseball.
I know some people think that'spretty meaningful, but is it
really that much more impressivethan 499 runs?
I don't know, could bedebatable.
You have your Rockies hat,Colorado Rockies hat on today.
Um, but I think that 2021 willbe a very different year than
(02:20):
2020.
And, uh, so we're here todaykind of looking back on the year
that was 2020, um, for us, forhumanity, for Andrew, for David,
for, uh, pine street church forhyphenated life hyphenated life
was born this year just a fewmonths ago.
Um, it was, you know, in utero,uh, in gestation, you know,
(02:46):
growing all its critical organsand everything for, for quite
some time before that.
But um, this year for us,something to really, really look
back on in a, in a reallyamazing of way is that this
podcast was born, um, back inmid-October we release our first
episode and, and haven't stoppedsince we've had something come
(03:08):
out every Thursday.
And here we are in the lastThursday of the year, the last
day of the year releasing thelast episode of season one of
hyphenated life.
And I, for one, couldn't behappier.
Couldn't be more grateful,Andrew, for you.
Um, for our producer, PhilNorman, for our executive
(03:28):
producer, Alexi Molden for, youknow, various other folks who
have helped, uh, steer the shipalong the way it's, uh, it's
such an amazing thing andsomething, I think that I will
always look back on 2020 as afond, as a wonderful, I look
back fondly and it's a wonderfulthing that we've been able to
(03:51):
accomplish here.
And, uh, and now we have 2021with one season, you know, in
the bag, uh, our shoes arebroken in.
We're ready to, uh, continue onthis journey.
Um, looking ahead to 2021, andobviously this pandemic has been
all encompassing it's it's, uh,infected everything, not just
(04:15):
virally the virus infecting ourbodies and our loved ones.
And in, in that, but it's, it'sin everything in our lives top
to bottom.
Um, and we have this, uh, newhorizon, so to speak of 2021,
the vaccines are on the way tosave the day and, uh, we will be
(04:37):
turning a corner.
Um, at some point this year,things are going to be very
different this time, this day,next year.
And you know, I'm mentioning howmuch I'm, I'm grateful or proud
of hyphenated life andeverything we've done, but
there's also, I think, you know,there was a lot of discussion
early on in the pandemic aboutthe idea that could there be any
(05:00):
good that comes from this, fromthis great pause, um, a return
to simplicity, you know, a focuson our life at home rather than
our life at work.
Um, you know, what has thispandemic brought to light?
You know, all of our nation'schildren are going to school on
a video conferencing meeting.
(05:21):
Oh man.
Um, you know, what, what doesthat mean?
Like what does that like put inyour face maybe a little bit
more like how critical havingaccess to the internet is for
the wellbeing of our children.
If you don't have the internet,you can't go to school now and
you can't go to school you'releft behind.
Um, that type of lasting impactis, is wild.
(05:43):
But maybe what this does is, isput a magnifying glass on some
of these things and enable us to, to really try harder and to do
better, to do our best.
Um, and sometimes you need thatmagnifying glass to help you
kind realize where, where yourshortfalls are culturally,
individually.
And so I I'm hopeful that in theend, there is an opportunity to
(06:08):
be better on the other side ofthis, right.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Love that sense of optimism and hope.
You know, as you're talkingabout this, I certainly, as a
parent, I'm thinking about howcrazy-making, it has been so
much of this year to manage workand parenting homeschooling with
kids in different grades anddifferent aptitudes and all of
that.
But I'm thinking too today, ifthere are teachers that are
(06:34):
listening on this new year'sEve, or whenever you're
listening to this, we are sograteful for you.
And I keep thinking about PeteBuddha, judge, who was just
named well nominated for atransportation secretary in this
incoming Biden administration,uh, who wants said, you know,
this in this past campaignseason, that teachers ought to
(06:55):
be honored like soldiers andpaid like doctors.
And, um, I thought that was sucha great way to summarize how
essential and how amazingteachers have been during this
crazy season during this batcrap crazy season.
Um, and I'm so grateful as aparent for them, but also
(07:16):
thinking about some of theinequities that have been
exposed in our education system.
Fortunately, we live in a stateColorado where I believe 90% of
households have access to highspeed internet.
That's fairly extraordinary.
And we still have a long way togo in our state, but thinking
about families that don't andhow hard this has been in
families who are workingmultiple jobs, that don't have
(07:39):
the luxury of being at home withtheir, with their kids, you
know, during this onlinelearning season, um, our hearts
not just go out to them, butwhat do we do in our society to
bridge those inequities, to makethat gap, to make that hyphen
space in terms of racial andeconomic inequality lesser.
(07:59):
So, um, so so many things thatare brought to bear this year,
certainly it's been a bleak yearand I, I know that's been the
case for so many of us and wewonder not just about how that's
going to impact our children'sacademic progress or regression.
However you want to look at it,but I, you know, taking time, as
(08:19):
you said that, great pause,capital G capital P of asking
ourselves those big questions,who do I want to be?
What do I want my life to beabout?
And what has this time, if wecan see it as a gift, you know,
it's, we can't be thankful foreverything.
I don't think we can say we canbe thankful for a global
pandemic in 2020, but we can begrateful in all things as the
(08:43):
great Saint Paul wants put it.
And there's some nuance in that.
So what are the gifts of such ableak and hard and difficult
year?
Uh, what can we use for goodgoing forward?
And some of those big questionsthat we ask ourselves
personally, that we ought to beasking ourselves socially, in
terms of racial and economicjustice in our world, we can be
(09:05):
better and we will be better andwe can do better.
And we will.
And I think that's part of thepromise.
You know, there's nothingmagical about turning the
calendar right.
Of, of January one, but there'ssomething about having a clean
slate, even if, no matter howartificial it is in terms of
the, of the calendar date, wealways have the chance to begin
(09:26):
again and to start a fresh, um,and for a lot of folks during
this time of year, I don't knowif those of you who are
listening are new year'sresolution people, uh, new
year's resolutions people, butif you are go for it and if
you're not, uh, it's okay to, uh, we have a chance though, to
(09:46):
start collectively, uh, movingtoward hopefully what will be a
post pandemic era and to bebetter human beings because of
it, uh, going forward, despiteall the hardship that everyone's
endured this year on all sortsof different levels.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So as we look ahead to all of these new beginnings,
these new opportunities to bebetter, uh, we're, we're closing
the book on chapter one ofhyphenated life, season one is
in the bag and we have beenworking behind the scenes here
planning for season two forseveral months.
Now, actually, we've got aawesome, awesome lineup of
(10:24):
guests that I think all of thelisteners out there are going to
really, really enjoy and, andhave opportunity to grow and be
inspired from, um, in that, thatis looking ahead, that is
basically the theme of oursecond season, recognizing
what's on the horizon is the newhorizon.
And so we're, we're lookingahead to what is, what
(10:47):
opportunities exist out there.
What are people doing who areshaking the trees and doing good
work on the other side of all ofthis?
Um, because there are thoseopportunities and people are
doing it.
And we want to, we want to sharethat with you.
We want to learn about itourselves.
So season two of hyphenated lifewe'll, we'll begin, um, early
(11:08):
February, we're gonna take themonth of January off from
releasing episodes.
So you can, uh, put it on yourcalendar.
First Thursday of February,February 4th, hyphenated life
season two will begin.
And, um, it's going to be, it'sgoing to be an exciting, hopeful
and inspirational season for us,and we hope for you as well.
(11:32):
And thank you all for being onthis exciting ride with us,
Speaker 1 (11:36):
For sure.
Thanks to all of you who havebeen so gracious to follow us on
Facebook and Instagram.
Uh, and you can find ustoo@hyphenatedlife.org, but
thank you.
So to all of you listening, whohave been our core supporters
here in the early going, uh, ininning one I'm baseball fan.
So we just finished the firstinning, let's say, uh, but we're
(11:57):
so grateful for all of you whohave become, uh, fans and
followers of hyphenated life foryour thoughtful responses.
Uh, and we welcome, uh, yourresponses and how we can improve
this podcast.
As we take a next step into thesecond inning season two of
hyphenated life.
And we also especially want tothank all of our season one
(12:17):
guests to Jonathan Lee Waltonand bill Leonard from Lake
forest to David plazas from theTennessee and in Nashville to
Susan Woodward, Springer priest,and a wonderful friend of the
podcast here in Boulder,Colorado to Liz Meyer Bolton to
the salt project to GeorgeMason, Wilsher Baptist church,
Dallas to Holly Hollman of BJC.
(12:40):
Am I leaving out anybodyWaverley math?
Yes.
Waiver our very own WaverleyMatthews here from pine street
church, uh, who leads art brunchon Sunday for our congregation
and the WEMA art asylum, uh,Waverley.
Thank you.
It's been a great season one, agreat beginning, uh, organic
build and thanks to all of youfor listening and supporting us.
(13:01):
We are grateful and let's domore of this.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Keep living in the hyphen happy new year, everybody
happy new year[inaudible].
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