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December 10, 2024 • 42 mins

Learn about herbal medicine with Jane Barlow-Christensen, who has continued on her fathers mission, as she shares about the profound impact of plant remedies on brain health and overall wellness. Jane, a seasoned expert, shares her story of inheriting her father's legacy.

Discover how natural remedies can contribute to your health as we highlight the vital role of the brain as the body's hungriest organ and how improving its oxygen and circulation can lead to a healthier, longer life, while discussing the powerful benefits of ingredients like cayenne pepper, ginger, and turmeric. These potent herbs can enhance heart health, digestion, and reduce inflammation. This episode provides invaluable insights and practical tips for incorporating these ingredients into your daily routine for optimal health.

Lastly, prepare yourself for life's unexpected challenges with Jane's expert strategies and suggestions on emergency herbal preparation. Learn about the significance of having an herbal medicine kit stocked with essential tinctures like lomatium and feverfew, and the practicality of sprouting seeds for sustainable nutrition. We also discuss the HealingStrong organization, offering support and resources for those on their healing journey. We pray you are encouraged by the benefits of nature and empower yourself with knowledge that can rejuvenate both body and mind.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for bringing that up because I love

(00:01):
it so much.
I don't really talk about itthat much on podcasts anymore,
but it's such like our brain isour hungriest organ.
Think about if you get deprivedof oxygen for a very short
amount of time.
You can do some brain damage.
So the herbs in it are designedto improve oxygen and
circulation to your brain.

(00:21):
So, yeah, you're going to beright along with me.
120.
We're going to be zipping alongwith our 450th podcast, jim.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's right.
We put that on the calendar.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast,
a part of the Healing Strongorganization, the number one
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The number one network ofholistic cancer support groups
in the world.
Each week, we bring you storiesof hope, real stories that will
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health.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Now here's your host stage four cancer thriver Jim
Mann, Jane Barlow, it's so goodto talk to you again, one of my
favorite guests.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Thank you, Jim.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
You're one of my favorite podcasters.
That's what I was fishing for,thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Right on cue baby.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, now, if someone's not familiar with you,
we do have you on episode 29.
So pause this right now and golisten to episode 29 first, so
you can know all aboutane and,uh, all her background, how she
took over her dad's business.
I mean, it's not like a hostiletakeover, but you took it,
you're going with it and keepingit going and expanding it and
helping people realize thatthere's medicine in our backyard

(01:38):
, right?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
yes, you are so correct and you're right.
It was not a hostile takeover.
Unfortunately, my dad passed onand I I get to take, got to
take over his beautiful legacy.
But yeah, there are, there'splant medicine in your backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's pretty brilliant I'm trying to remember
.
Did any other?
You have like 107 siblings.
Okay, 13 of them, but yeah, areany of those also working with
you in the business?
I forget.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, I'm constantly surprised.
Well, I don't even know now,because my dad's been gone for
almost 27 years and I restartedhis company four years after we
passed and I have, as you said,a big 107 siblings.
Actually, there's 14 of us,five boys and nine girls, and I
have a couple of brothers whoworked pretty closely with my

(02:29):
dad.
But all of us grew up this wayand all of us had had a chance
to do things with my dad thatwere one-on-one.
He really believed he was sucha good parent, a good dad.
He would take us individuallyon business trips with him and
we used to get to go up into themountains with him.
A lot of times it was all of us, but there were times he spent

(02:51):
one-on-one time with us.
So I have these moments when Ithink, wow, you know, I never
dreamed that it would be me.
You know, I had a career infitness for 20 years.
I used to own my own gym and Idid personal training and I
still taught exercise classesuntil COVID hit and then it kind

(03:12):
of the gym I was working at itdidn't survive.
So so, yeah, I carry my dad'swork.
He was a brilliant botanist andevery single day I am grateful.
I am humbled To the chagrin ofmy boys, who are both in their
40s.
Now I tell them I'm never goingto retire because I love what I

(03:33):
do so much.
And it's not like it's reallytheir chagrin, but I keep
control of my business.
I'm very particular about wherethe herbs are sourced and how
they're made and I do all theformulating.
So yeah, that was kind of along answer to your startup
there, but there you go.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, and of course you won't have to retire because
you'll live to be like 120,since you're so healthy.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, I got stuff to do, I got people to help, I got
people to inspire and I think ifyou take really good care of
this, this vessel, this templewe've been given um, we can't
experience what this beautifullife has to offer us if we're in
ill health, and I know thatthis is such a beautiful mission
with the healing strong um.

(04:19):
You know that their mission,that I'm always honored to be a
part of it.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
So yes, yes, and I I was talking to you earlier how I
take the brain glow which iswhy I'm so mentally sharp.
And I actually take thatbecause my mom, she, she had
dementia for like the last sixor seven years of her life.
Fortunately she was verypleasant with it.
It I know some people getgrouchy and mean, but she was

(04:47):
very pleasant.
But she would rather have beensharp, I'm sure.
So I'm trying to protect myselfagainst something like that.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, I think that's the thing.
We always think.
Taking care of our body issuper important, and it is.
But a part of our body includesour brain, and I think there's
a lot of factors that play intothat, besides what you eat.
And this is where the beauty ofmother nature and herbal
medicine comes in.
Is, you know, the oldest livingtree species in the world that

(05:18):
we are aware of is the ginkgobiloba tree, and it's got these
beautiful leaves that havepowerful properties that are
really good for your brain andit.
That is one of the ingredientsin the brain globe.
But you know, we've been soconditioned with the last 100,
150 years of so-called modernmedicine.
Um, and it has its place.

(05:39):
You don't want to throw thebaby out with the bath water,
but, um, it's herbal medicine ispowerful.
So, yeah, I love that you'retaking that.
I told you before we wererecording.
I'm like, don't want to throwthe baby out with the bathwater,
but, um, it's herbal medicineis powerful.
So, yeah, I love that you'retaking that.
I told you before we wererecording.
I'm like you brought that upfirst thing.
I'm like, yes, this issomething I don't ever skip,
because we're both in our 60sand it.
It's to me.
I want to be 120 and I want tostill recognize my family.

(06:01):
I want to be sharp.
I want to.
I mean, I know people.
My uncle just turned 90 aboutthree weeks ago and he is as
sharp as a tack.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So yes, and I know you love to talk about the
lomatium.
Is that how you say that?
Yes, I have that also and thisis a time of year that it's very
good to have handy, correct?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, yeah.
So I think that it's almost ourduty or our responsibility at
this point to really reallylearn about herbs that would be
good in our own personal homeapothecary or herbal arsenal,
and lomatium is one of thembecause it's such a powerful
antimicrobial.

(06:43):
You know like there's peoplewho are used to things like
echinacea, elderberry, lemonbalm.
You know these are reallycommon herbs that are good for
cold and flu season and I amfamiliar with them.
I have all of them.
I love all of them.
I consider lamation kind oflike a heavy hitter.
It's something that you know, Iwouldn't want to be without, and

(07:07):
there's a learning curve to itbecause it causes a one-time
rash in some people, but it'snot anything to be afraid of,
but it's something to be awareof.
And here's the thing you needto be brave.
You know, when you first startusing herbal medicine, what I
find is people don't, they don'treally trust it.
You know they're like well,what if I take this and it
doesn't do what it's supposed todo?

(07:28):
Well, you need.
Herbal medicine is powerful.
Most drugs have.
They are derived from a base ofherbs and plants, like white
willow bark is aspirin, but youcan't patent Mother Nature, so
you have to create somethingthat's a chemical or something
unnatural.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
So yeah, yeah, and then with the natural stuff it
doesn't happen overnight.
It's something that has tobuild up in your body, as
opposed to the medicines you getover the counter.
It's just comes with sideeffects or potential side
effects, I should say that andnormally it happens quicker.
But it's not natural stuff.

(08:08):
Natural stuff kind of changes.
Um, I don't say who you are,but how your body reacts to
things.
Am I saying that correctly?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, okay, so yes and no.
So, the reason that peoplethink that over-the-counter meds
work quicker is because theycover the symptoms.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
And what you're going after is what's causing you to
be sick or to have this problem,and it's not that herbal
medicine works slower.
I've actually seen herbalmedicine work extremely fast.
You know, I raised both my boyson natural medicine.
My grandkids now are using it.
It's just part of it.
They just reach for stuffthemselves.

(08:51):
But sometimes if you're dealingwith, say, a chronic issue,
like when you have some of thesedifferent cancers or some of
these different issues likeheart problems or whatever, like
if you have chronic issues,then yeah, you want to give your
body a chance to absorb the,you know, absorb the plant

(09:12):
medicine and let it do its job.
Because even though I've seenpeople heal really quickly and
we say, oh, it's spontaneoushealing, it's a miracle, well,
our body knows how to heal whenit gets the right tools.
It's actually quite simple andmiracles happen every single day
.
So I think that when you talkabout it over the counter or

(09:32):
something working quicker, itdoes.
But what you're doing is you'rejust usually suppressing a
symptom right.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I was going down a trail there that I wasn't
sure how to put it to words,but I was partially right,
mostly because of the brain glow.
Before brain glow I was notright at all no, I don't you
know what.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I thank you for bringing that up because I love
it so much.
I don't really talk about itthat much on podcasts anymore,
but it's such like our brain isour hungriest organ.
Think about, if you getdeprived of oxygen for very, for
a very short amount of time.
You can do some brain damage.
So the herbs in it are designedto improve oxygen and

(10:12):
circulation to your brain.
So, yeah, if you're going to,you're going to be right along
with me.
120.
We're going to be zipping alongwith our 450th podcast, jim.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's right.
Let me put that on the calendar, yeah, and so it doesn't look
like this is just like anadvertising for you guys.
I do want to bring up somethingthat I recently started taking
because I always see it onInstagram.
You know, I'm like a teenager,you know I'm on Instagram all
the time, yeah, but there's thisthing where it's a concoction
of honey, like a cup of honey,and then you add a teaspoon of

(10:47):
ginger and turmeric and what's ablack pepper, cayenne pepper
and cinnamon, and so I've beentaking that for like a week and
it's pretty nice.
I mean, I can breathe through mynose, and this time of year
it's getting a little chillyhere, not too bad, not chilly
enough.
But yeah, everyone else aroundme is getting all stopped up and

(11:08):
I'm as healthy as I can be.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh my gosh, that's a power punch.
So is the main base of that thehoney.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
So then you mix in the ginger, the turmeric, the
cayenne, the black pepper.
okay, that is.
I have not seen that out oninstagram, but none of I've seen
other recipes that have similar.
Yeah, that you are doingsomething really, really
powerful there.
In fact, the herbs that arethere cayenne pepper is also one
of my very favorite herbs.

(11:37):
It's really amazing for hearthealth, it's good for your
vascular system, it's good foryour digestion, it's good for
your metabolism and it will helpopen up your airways.
If you think about it Like, ofcourse, it's got that heat, so
it's going to raise your bodytemperature a little bit.
It's got a lot of reallypowerful benefits.

(11:57):
In fact, I think every personshould have cayenne pepper as
part of their daily because it'sso good for your heart.
But it's also good foremergency uses in the cases of,
like, maybe heart issues, likeif you have a heart attack, you
know, or heartache.
I mean, that's a whole otherthing we can go into.
But ginger super good fordigestion, also really really

(12:21):
good for inflammation.
It's really good for you know,keeping your whole digestive
process moving and going.
And think about the airwaysthat it opens up as well,
because when you take someginger, you eat some ginger,
especially fresh ginger root.
I don't know how you when youtake some ginger, you eat some
ginger, especially fresh gingerroot.
I don't know how you do.
You do powdered ginger.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I do the organic powder.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So here's what you should try.
The grocery store that we haveclose to my house has fresh
ginger root and fresh turmericroot and you can take it.
And I have this little I callit an inflammation shot and I do
fresh ginger, fresh turmeric, Ipeel it, I chop it up, I put it
in with some fresh squeezedlemon juice and fresh squeezed

(13:04):
grapefruit juice and freshsqueezed orange juice.
So I get the fruits and I juicethem, I put the turmeric and
this is fresh turmeric root,fresh ginger root and then I
juice all the fruit and then Ichop these up, I put them all in
a blender and I blend it up andthen I filter the bulk of the
ginger and the turmeric root.

(13:25):
So that, and it's just this.
It just makes you pucker and Ido like an ounce, an ounce a day
, and I'll also put my cayennepepper tincture in there.
So, I'm adding the cayennepepper as well, and you're just,
you're waking up your digestion.
Think about metabolism.
I mean, a lot of people haveproblems with their metabolism,

(13:46):
which means your body's notefficient at burning fuel,
burning the food you eat, and alot of that can lead to weight
problems.
But yeah, think about what youjust said too, as far as it's
keeping you well.
And then you've got the honey,which has a lot of antibacterial
, antimicrobial properties aswell.
Yeah, that's a good blend.
You got there, jim.
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I figured it must be good, because they weren't
selling it, it wasn't asponsored thing, so I thought,
well, they're not trying to sellme anything.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, everybody can make it.
You can make it at your ownhouse.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, oh yeah, well, I'm a little proud of myself
right now you should be and ofcourse I have all kinds of
questions.
Basically I have questionsabout myself and hopefully other
people can relate to what I gothrough.
But I remember when I got firstdiagnosed diagnosed with cancer
and I used to have heartburnlike all the time.

(14:38):
As soon as I cut sugar out, itstopped.
I didn't have any moreheartburn.
I thought, well, that mighthave been it.
But lately I've been gettingheartburn a lot and I'm not sure
what that's about.
I know you, you need more acidin in your gut and so, like I
would do the vinegar, the applecider vinegar, and you know I

(15:00):
could put that kind of stuffdown because you know the
caliber of a man I am.
But still like if I lay down atnight I'll be getting it, or
just walking around during theday.
I'm not sure what that's about.
What could I do to kind of helpthat?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
You know what I would do.
So one of the precursors toheartburn, believe it or not,
which causes a lot of problems,is stress.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
So, even though you think, well, maybe I don't have
stress, my life is good and easyand I'm great, you know,
because we think as weespecially the ages that we are
we think, well, we've got a lotof life figured out, we've
figured.
We realize we don't get workedup about things that we used to
get worked up about, but I thinkyou know we were also talking
about the impending electioncoming up.

(15:46):
That's going to be.
You know, that can cause stressto people, even if they think
they've got a grip on it.
So, first of all, what I woulddo is take a look at anything
that might be causing you stress, even a little bit of low-grade
stress, because we become soused to it that we don't.
We just think that that's justnormal and we don't even chalk
anything up to stress.

(16:07):
Now, what I would also add is Iwould really look at some
digestive enzymes, which Ibelieve would really really help
with heartburn.
Um, the last thing you want todo, from my opinion, is go get
things like tums or things that,yeah, because then you're just
again, you're covering upsomething and you're giving

(16:29):
yourself a temporary fix, butyou're also not giving your body
the ability to produce its ownum juices and stuff.
So you might even want to doyour your little honey ginger
turmeric concoction thing, maybetwice a day instead of once a
day yeah and do it on an emptystomach and let it.
Let it sit in your stomach,maybe with some digestive

(16:50):
enzymes.
I love um papaya enzymes.
They're, they're.
You can get them chewable,they're really yummy.
But I also have some otherenzymes that I get and if you
don't eat something with its ownenzymes which comes in living
food, then your body doesn'thave the enzymes to break down

(17:10):
the food and you also might behaving some issues with your
liver and your gallbladder.
So you might want to considerdoing something like dandelion
root.
You can get dandelion root tea,which yeah, I do that every day
.
That's awesome.
You might want to do doubleyour tea bags.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Do a double tea bag, because that's going to really
help your liver, but then youmight want to get something,
something, a supplement that'sspecific for liver and
gallbladder.
Yeah, I mean, I don't againdon't want to just make this
with what I have, but I have a.
I have a liver love.
That's capsule.
That's important.
It's an encapsule because Ilove dandelion tea too, but when

(17:51):
you have herbs that go throughthe digestive process, then it
actually can activate your liverand gallbladder differently
than when they just go in liquidand they don't have to break
down, right, yeah, so that'swhat I would do.
I would get some good enzymesand add some things that support
and love on your liver andgallbladder.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, okay, because I hadn't had it for so long, the
heartburn.
I thought why is that comingback?
But there is once you said thestress there is a little stress
factor coming in because eversince that COVID stuff my wife's
business kind of dropped andit's slowly building back up,
but then it needs to build up alittle quicker.
So I'm going to help her on thebusiness end of things.

(18:34):
So hopefully that will turnaround no stress, it'll be great
.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, I mean.
So maybe add some bits ofmeditation in, if you're not
already.
You know, disconnect from yourtechnology for as much as you
can during the day and getoutside and walk, and you
probably already do those kindof things.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You know I have a five-mile loop I do from my
house around down in myneighborhood.
There's a river, there's aparkway with a river and I have
this five-mile loop.
I walk every single day andit's a beautiful time for me to.
It's a time commitment.
It takes me between an hour and30 minutes, an hour and 40

(19:12):
minutes and there are some daysI'm like I don't know if I can
fit this in.
Does it get up earlier or I doit right after I'm done working.
So I think anyone listening tothis, if you can find ways to
get out into nature, even ifit's walking around your
neighborhood, and don't takeyour technology you know that's
the biggest challenge for peopleUnless you're leaving kids at

(19:32):
home and you need to be reachfor an emergency.
But don't even listen topodcasts.
You know, don't listen to music.
Get well, music is different.
But yeah, that's a good, that'sa, that's a suggestion for, but
listen to this podcast.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, it goes without saying.
Now, in this area, here, we hada hurricane you might've heard
about it and came through here.
In fact we were about to leaveto go to down to daytona beach
to celebrate my daughter myyoungest daughter's 21st
birthday.
So we had a condo on the beachthere and this hurricane was
supposed to go a little bit tothe west of us, so I'd be a

(20:09):
little rain and and wind,wouldn't be that big of a deal
and I was going to go down theeast coast.
So.
But then when I got up at threein the morning getting ready to
leave at four, I look on my appand the eye was just coming
right over us.
So I thought man, it sounds alittle windier than it should be
.
And I look, my trees are blownone way and then also the eye

(20:30):
came.
You know, everything was calmand then they're blowing the
opposite direction.
So we we did make it down there.
It took us a lot longer, had togo around a lot of big trees
and we had to go four hoursbefore we could find a gas
station that had power orrestrooms you can use.
So Florida was great.
Usually you don't run to Floridato get out of hurricanes, but

(20:52):
in this case it worked out greatand it was a week before the
other hurricane came back towhere we were at in Florida.
We were dodging hurricanes fora couple weeks, basically, but
when we came back, so manyplaces around us, our
neighborhood never lost power.
We lost internet, but you knowthat's not that big of a deal,
but power.
There are so many people thatwent weeks and weeks without
power and, of course, asheville,which, which is just north of

(21:16):
us, about an hour 15 minutes.
Obviously that was devastatedand it still is.
When you go through somethinglike that and you don't have
electricity and whatnot, whatwould you suggest?
What are good herbs or whatshould we have on hand to make
sure we try to keep our health?
Or what would you use otherthan having gardens?

(21:38):
But you can't do that all of asudden as a hurricane's coming
if you don't already have oneyeah, yeah, I mean that's such a
great question.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I've been I've actually been asked this
question and it doesn't surpriseme the last few years because I
think people are realizing, um,the preparedness right really
really important for whatevermight come, whatever situation
you find yourself in.
As far as you know, before Itouch on the herbal aspect, what

(22:06):
I really love is having accessto sprouting seeds, because if
you and then use them and havethem going so that you can, so
you're familiar with them, don'tjust have a bunch in your food
storage but you don't know howto start sprouting.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Because if, in a dire emergency, you could actually
live on sprouts for a while,because they're living foods,
they're full of dense, densenutrition.
There's protein and vitaminsand minerals and all kinds of
goods and good things indifferent sprouts.
That's what first thing I wouldsay as far as the food source.
Now it is important to havesome herbal medicine and this is

(22:48):
where me and my siblings youknow my siblings actually feel
really grateful that I havecontinued my dad's work, because
I kind of besides the stuffthat we have in our warehouse at
my home, I have a bunch ofherbs curing in different
tinctures and that's what I usefor my family and all my
siblings and all of their kids.
So something for infections.

(23:10):
So lomatium is really good forthat, something that's you know,
cayenne pepper in tincture formis really, really good in case
there's an emergency with with aheart, heart issue, things for
inflammation and pain, and liketurmeric is really good.

(23:32):
Something like cat's claw isreally good and something, you
know, it doesn't have to be agreat, big, huge group of herbs,
you can even keep it to likeunder 10, but something like
feverfew in and these I wouldalso suggest in tincture form,
and the reason is they go rightto the bloodstream, they're very
fast acting and the shelf lifeon them, like all of our

(23:57):
tinctures, have a 10-year shelflife Wow, and it actually will
last longer than that.
But there might be someevaporation, even through the
rubber dropper, over really longperiods of time evaporation,
even through the rubber dropper,over really long periods of
time.
But if you have, you know,eight to 10 tinctures, then you
don't ever have to worry aboutthem going bad.
But the reason you want feverfew is for fevers and headaches

(24:19):
and things like that.
And then you would want tolearn how to make a poultice so
that you could actually do somewound healing.
How to make a poultice so thatyou could actually do some wound
healing, like, if you needed to, you know you could take a
tincture that was good for, like, say, lomation.
You could take some lomationtincture and put it into like a
skin wound.
It would sting a little bit atfirst, but that way you could

(24:42):
actually keep it from gettinginfected.
And then you know.
So I would say something thatyou, if you can't get somewhere
to like to a hospital orwhatever and you're in an
emergency situation to helpyourself or help others, I
actually have what's called anemergency essential kit and it's

(25:03):
got a little group of thingsthat are all tinctures.
One is a skin salve that isactually in a petroleum jelly
base, and the only reason we dothat is it has a long shelf life
.
But sometimes you might need awound cover that has a

(25:23):
waterproof base, because there'sa lot of people who are really
into natural things.
I'm one of those people.
Because there's a lot of peoplewho are really into natural
things, I'm one of those people.
But sometimes, like a reallypure petroleum jelly is with
herbs in, it, is really reallygood for healing a wound.
So I think those are just somethings to kind of think about.
Think about what your family is,what's their health like

(25:44):
currently, and then maybe curateyour herbal apothecary
accordingly, because somefamilies might need they might
have little kids who might needsomething that maybe an elderly
person might not, and vice versa.
And maybe someone has aprescription of something.
Well, this is a good time tothink about.

(26:04):
Well, what can I do toresponsibly get off my
prescriptions, maybe with thehelp of my doctor?
So what if you couldn't get tothe pharmacy?
You know what I mean.
It puts a lot of people in areally kind of a tricky
situation.
But hopefully that answeredyour question.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, perfectly.
Of course I had to write down alot of stuff because I, you
know, even with my brain glow, Isometimes forget some things.
I do have the Golden Salve, Isthat what it's called?
I got this last year at theHealing Strong Convention that
you spoke at.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, that's a natural one, which is good it's
got.
The base is coconut oil, sheabutter, beeswax.
There's some vitamin E whichacts as a preservative.
Yeah, but that's a natural base.
It doesn't have any.
It doesn't have a super longshelf life a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Uh-oh, I better go get hurt.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
It start using it, like even if you use it as a lip
balm.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Really nice if you get chapped skin or it's super
lovely.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I thought I had to have an injury and I was upset I
wasn't getting hurt.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Nope, chapped lits my friend.
Okay, I'll give you a flip palmjust like a little bit of, just
kind of yep.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
All right, I was excited because I thought, man,
if it doesn't have it only lastsa couple of years, I already
got a year on it.
I was going to, you know, tryto go play rugby, or something.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
It'll last longer than a couple of years, but
that's, we put a Best Buy of twoyears.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, and then one more thing.
That's about me, of course.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
This is your podcast, jim, that's right.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Okay, this is your podcast, jim, that's right, okay
, well, and I don't know if thisis a side effect still from the
immunotherapy I went through,which you know it saved my life,
so I'm not going to complaintoo much, yeah.
Some of the side effects couldbe really bad.
I've heard some of the sideeffects are death and that's

(28:04):
kind of a bad side effect.
But I haven't had that one.
But my, the joints in my, in myhips, all of a sudden and it
might be my mattress, I don'tknow.
It was like all of a sudden,you know, when I get up out of a
chair I feel like an old person, I feel like I'm 67 or
something.
But yeah, I know, 67 is not old.
What am I saying?

(28:25):
no, heck no but is is therethere some kind of herbs or
anything that kind of helps withjoint pain?
Because I don't think it's likeI don't need hip replacements
or anything, because once I getgoing I'm fine.
But I don't know, it just makesme feel old.
I don't like that feeling.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, the very first thing I would do.
You're already doing theturmeric, which is awesome, but
are you familiar with an herbcalled cat's claw?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I would be doing daily cat's claw.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And it tinctures your form because it's the
absorbability right to thebloodstream.
We do a tincture we callunadagado, which is the same
thing.
So it's from Peru, it's theinner bark of the cat's claw
tree and it's a.
It's from peru, it's the innerbark of the of the cat claw tree
and it is it's not only goodfor inflammation and pain.
So if there's any kind of youknow inflammation in your hips

(29:16):
or you know, I don't know howmuch you do stretching or if
you're, if you're active, do youdo you walk every day?
Or okay, keep, definitely keepthat up, because once, once you
stop moving, like movement isextremely important for your
physical body and I think a lotof people, when they have some
pain, they stop moving becauseit's not comfortable.

(29:36):
But I would also and I don'tcarry this anymore, but I would
also look into some CBD, and notwith THC, but just a really
pure CBD.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Really good for inflammation and pain.
And we have inside of us theydiscovered it in the 1980s we
actually have an endocannabinoidsystem.
So, like we have a nervoussystem, we have a digestive
system, like our body hasreceptors that recognize the
properties of cannabis.
And most people have never,they've never, activated that

(30:10):
system.
You know, I'm a person who's,you know, I would never smoke a
cigarette.
I've never.
I've never done.
You know, I've never donemarijuana as a joint or
recreation.
I've never done that.
But a couple of years ago I had,a long time ago I had a really
bad water ski accident.
So I had a long time ago I hada really bad water ski accident.
So over the years it got worseand worse and worse.

(30:31):
My one leg, I had a bad injuryand two years ago I had to end
up getting a full kneereplacement, which was
interesting for someone like mewho doesn't go to the doctor.
I'm super active, I'm super.
I mean, I used to own a gym andI used to.
You know so, and and.
But we have these physicalbodies and sometimes we get hurt
, but the surgeon, um, I endedup getting uh, opinions from

(30:57):
different orthopedic surgeonsand I finally landed on the
third one.
In fact, you would probably umrecognize this name.
Uh, hayden, do you recognizethat name?
yeah so he was a speed skater atthe lake placid, uh, winter
olympics, and I think it was1980.
Well, he went on to become hewon all the gold medals, right,

(31:18):
he was like very decorated.
And he went on to become anorthopedic surgeon.
He practices here in the saltlake Valley, actually up in Park
City, and he's the one who didmy knee surgery, which is really
cool because I remember thoseOlympics very well.
But he was the third one Italked to because I wanted to
the aftercare, which is really,you know, I've never had surgery

(31:42):
before and this is a majorsurgery.
I wanted to take care of myselfwith herbs and so I laid it out
to the first surgeon.
They're like no, no, no, youhave to do this, this and this.
And the second one the same.
And so I went to see Dr Hydenand I said this is what I want
to do to take care of myself.

(32:03):
I don't want to be onprescription pain meds, I don't
want to do the anti-inflammatorydrugs, I don't want to be on
prescription pain meds, I don'twant to do the anti-inflammatory
drugs.
I don't want to do, I don'twant to do these antibiotics.
You know, these are these, arenot this.
And he goes okay, well, what?
What would you do?
Because it's like you havepeople who say, well, I want to
do something natural, but theydon't really have any idea.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Or maybe they have a little bit of an idea and
they're hoping the doctor willtell them what.
So I basically just laid it out.
It was a very simple I'm goingto do this for inflammation and
pain and this and this.
I'm going to do this in place,like I did the lamation in place
of an antibiotic, and then I'mgoing to do this in place of
whatever else.
And he was like oh okay, you doknow what you're talking about

(32:46):
and that's how I went through it.
So I kind of taken us back.
I did do CBD with THC for thepain that I had when I was
recovering from my kneereplacement, but you can use I
would suggest for you CBDwithout that, because you're

(33:07):
just trying to wait.
Unless you have experience withit and you've turned on your
endocannabinoid system and yourreceptors are going to recognize
it, that should be somethingvery, very easy for you to get,
because now CBD is legaleverywhere, as it should be, and
it's something that should bereally easy to get.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, okay, that sounds good.
I'm like you be, and it'ssomething that should be easy to
really, you know, really easyto get.
Yeah, okay, that sounds good.
I'm like you, I've never smokedanything.
Yeah, and I'm such a, I'm sucha pure little fella yeah, you
are.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
We like our lungs.
It's like I've never understoodpeople when they sit and smoke.
Yeah, I just, and I don't.
I don't judge anybody because Ithink it's fine, but I'm just
like how we saw it.
Why would I want to like wrap?
It's fine, but I'm just like,how is that?
Why would I want to like wrap?
It's like wrapping your lipsaround an exhaust pipe.
Why would she want to?
That was my visual as ateenager.
I'm like why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, and I don't know of anybody who smokes that
down the road.
Wishes they ever glad theystill are.
I mean, most people are likewhy did I ever start this?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right right.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, whatever, we're way past our time, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Shoot.
I think that was a brilliantconversation.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, I'm on time and a half now Just kidding and, of
course, to get a hold of you.
It's the same thing.
Go to what's it?
Barloherbalcom all theinformation there I still I have
your like a catalog ofeverything you've got.
It reminds me of the searscatalog growing up where I
picked out christmas presents.
It's got a lot of stuff inthere yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I mean, over the decades there's been a lot of
herbal wisdom that.
You know that was really kindof started by my dad, but he, he
was in the era beforepodcasting, before before
websites.
You know that was really kindof started by my dad, but he, he
was in the era beforepodcasting, before before
websites.
You know, he he never, he neverdid that.
But we have this.
It's like a 64 page, uh, it's abooklet, a catalog that kind of

(34:59):
tells you a little bit of ourhistory but it it kind of tells
you all about the products andwhat they do.
And, yeah, and you can actuallygo to our website and just
download a PDF if you, or we'llmail you a hard copy if you want
to reach out, super easy.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Okay, all right, and is there anything new that
you've come up with since thelast time I talked to you that
you would like to talk about ormention?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, so are you familiar?
You're familiar with Essiac orEssiac.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So are you familiar?
You're familiar with Essiac orEssiac.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Mm-hmm, I knew it with the T, yeah.
So this is a very famousformula, especially for people
that probably listen to thiswho've been dealing with cancer
or helping someone who has.
This is a very famous recipethat was put out over 100 years
ago by a Canadian nurse namedRenee Casey or Reem Case, and

(35:50):
it's brewed into a tea.
You can get it that's probablythe most common way to get it
but in the late 1960s my dadworked with her and he added two
additional herbs to thetraditional four that are in
Essiac and he made it into avery powerful tincture.
So, besides the four herbs, headded blood root and watercress.
So for years for probably 40years we've been 45 years we've

(36:13):
been making this Essiac tincture.
Well, at the end of last year Ihad this idea because we talked
to so many people with differenttypes of cancer and different
things that I'm like why don't Itake those six herbs that are
in our tincture, infuse theminto oils and put them into skin

(36:37):
products?
So that's what I did.
So at the first of this year Ibrought out it's Essiac Skin
Serum and then Essiac Skin Salve, and it's now been.
You know we're recording thisat the very end of October and
it's so.
These have been out now foralmost a year and the feedback
that we've gotten it just givesme chills talking about it,

(36:58):
because to me, mother Nature isso beautiful and so perfect.
I feel like I feel kind of likelike this vessel of inspiration
, and I'm grateful that I get toact on it and that I get to
bring things out that helppeople.
So that's something that's new,that is, it's just amazing.

(37:19):
So skin, if you've had a lot ofsun at torture on your head or
your shoulders, your back, yourchest, these are just really
beautiful products to help.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Maybe a little melanoma on the head is what I
had, if you call that a skinissue.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I see a skin issue.
Do you have any skin issues?

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Okay, yeah, I think I remember seeing that in an
email.
I get your emails.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh cool yeah, that came out at the beginning of the
year.
Okay yeah, every time I read itI go oh cool yeah, that came
out At the beginning of the year.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
So, okay, yeah, there's always.
Every time I read it, I gottacheck that out.
Like so many things I gottacheck out.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, and a lot of it's education.
You know, every Wednesday,every Thursday, I put out a
herbal wisdom video when I justreally teach about Individual
herbs.
You know, yeah, things that arecommon Like dammy lions.
You know, yeah, things that arecommon like dammy lions.
And you know, like thingseveryone should really start
putting into their thoughtprocess.
Or have someone in your familywho's interested, because I know

(38:18):
some people aren't interestedin this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Every family should have one person.
That you've kind of pushedtoward that direction.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
That's right.
The rest can just eat Twinkies,right.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
No, no, no, no, no, Jim.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Okay, not promoting it.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
You'll be like WALL-E .
You remember that movie?
Yes, the Twinkies like survivedinto the future like thousands
of years.
Yes, I know you were joking,but yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I used to like them, but they're not healthy.
I did too.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I ate my share of Twinkies and Ding Dongs too.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, oh man.
Oh well, but now we're healthy,so we're not going to do that,
that's right.
Well, jane, it was a pleasure,as usual, to talk to you, and
I'm sitting here carrying mybrain glow back into the kitchen
.
You're awesome, jim.
Well, hopefully I would like toget you actually to speak at

(39:16):
one of my.
You know I'm still a groupleader with Healing Strong and I
think I've told you on theother podcast.
We have our own cancer park,cancer survivors park.
I should say it's not a parkfor cancer but, yeah, get you to
talk one time to my people.
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I'm meeting with the group in Salt Lake next month.
I've met twice in person withthem and it's Colette, Colette
Mosier.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah.
So she reached out again.
She's like, since you're local,let's can you come and speak in
person again?
So I'm next month, we're, butI'd be happy to you know.
This is how we, you guys, areall about sharing and and, and
you know, giving people littletips on how they can make
massive improvements.
And if I could just say onelast thing, if we need to know

(40:08):
people need to know thatwellness is simple.
We overcomplicate everythingand I think if we bring it back
to simplicity, which can startwith the foods that we eat and I
know you guys preach all thatall the time, but vibrant health
is not complicated.
We are made so perfectly and ifwe give our body the right

(40:30):
tools, not just physically butspiritually and emotionally, our
body heals quickly and we needto remember that.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yes, good point.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I was going to say that.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
I knew you were, I just wanted to beat you to it.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Well, you're younger than me, so you did no big deal,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I've been to beat you to it.
Well, you're younger than me,so you did no big deal.
I guess I've been taking brainsa little longer than you, I
guess.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
All right, Jane.
Well, thank you so much fordoing this.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Thanks, jim, it's always a pleasure to chat with
you and stay brilliant.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
my friend, I'll give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
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(41:24):
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