This episode discusses the alarming rise of cancer in young adults, examining the environmental, dietary, and emotional factors involved. The conversation emphasizes holistic healing, the role of detoxification, and practical strategies for reducing health risks related to toxins and EMF exposure.
• Discussion on increasing cancer rates among young adults
• Exploration of environmental toxins and lifestyle choices
• Importance of detoxification and nutrition
• Insights into the role of emotional and spiritual health in healing
• Overview of non-toxic cancer treatments and the seven principles of care
• Proactive strategies for managing EMF exposure
• Hope and empowerment through community support and personal action
A special thank you to Dr. Tony for this episode, and corporate partnership with HealingStrong
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I encourage all of you, no matter if you think that
you know everything is great inyour life.
You had a happy childhood.
You know your kids love you,your parents loved you, your
spouse loves you.
We're humans and we live inthis world, and so we all have a
backpack of stuff, right, andso we need to get the stuff out
(00:20):
of the backpack, and then thehealing happens in not a linear
fashion, but it happens in aquantum fashion, like leaps and
bounds of healing.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast,
a part of the Healing Strongorganization, the number one
network of holistic cancersupport groups in the world.
Each week we bring you storiesof hope, real stories that will
encourage you as you navigateyour way on your own journey to
health.
Now here's your host stage fourcancer thriver, jim Mann.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Dr Tony from Hope for Cancer.
So good to have you along withus.
I believe this is the thirdtime you've been on our episode,
so you did something good thelast two times.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Thank you so much, jim.
It's my gift to be on theHealing Strong platform because
it's a very important group ofpeople that are helping and
giving hope to many.
So we had a small prayer beforewe went on live and Jim prayed
(01:28):
about hope and about what'shappening and how it's needed
now in the world of cancer leveljournal, the Lancet just
published this year, in 2024,recently, and it's titled Cancer
(01:56):
is on the Rise in Young AdultsMore Than Ever.
So why more than ever?
Right, we've been in this questto find better options in
cancer besides chemotherapy,radiation and surgery and
immunotherapy, and they talkabout in this publication that
between 1990 and 2019, the casesof cancer in young people
across the world increased by79% and deaths rose.
(02:24):
The death rate rose by 28%.
This is just unheard of.
And where is all this creaturegoing?
17 cancers that are on the risefor young adults, and you name
them colorectal cancer,gallbladder, kidney, pancreas,
stomach, leukemia, breast cancer.
(02:46):
You know, the list goes on andon.
And this is exactly, jim andeveryone at Haley's Journal,
what we are seeing now at Hopefor Cancer Younger patients with
cancer.
Then we have all thosestatistics Younger patients with
cancer, more aggressive cancersand patients that were in
remission, coming out ofremission, and so there's
(03:09):
something obviously contributingto this, and there are many
thoughts, of course, jim, onthis, whether it's related to
the COVID pandemic,environmental pollution,
toxicities, you know, the waterquality and so forth, and that's
all of it.
It's all of it that isparticipating in these findings.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I would imagine you know there's so many more
toxins that are out thereobviously contributing to that.
And of course, the cell phone.
I mean, I'm sure there's a risein brain cancer because of the
cell phone when you put that upagainst your head.
Yeah, we don't really know downthe road how that will affect
things, because that's still afairly new thing.
(03:51):
And then the AirPods that somany people have.
They live.
One of my kids lives with thosein his ears.
I keep telling him.
I say you don't need to do that, get something with wires.
I finally convinced him to atleast just put the headphones
with wires on them.
I said it's not as cool lookingbut it'll be very cool down the
road, much more than the otherones.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, definitely EMF toxicity is a big player here
and especially, as you mentioned, young children and young
adults.
When their brain is stilldeveloping, they're more
susceptible to mutations andthings going wrong.
So definitely what we found andothers have confirmed this in
(04:35):
studies is that the three maintoxicities now number one is
aluminum, number two isglyphosate, and that's the
Roundup Monsanto, and thennumber three is exactly what
you're talking about, Jim is EMFelectromagnetic field radiation
.
So if we start off withdetoxing and eliminating those
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three major toxicities thatwe're exposed to, it will give
us a head start right.
And going back to this Lancetpublication, it says suspected
causes.
This is a peer-reviewedconventional journal saying
suspected causes of this higherincidence of cancer in young
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adults, increased rates ofobesity, dietary habits, and
here it is environmental toxins,chemicals that were introduced
in the 50s and 60s, and then thefourth one that they mentioned
is early life exposures tocancer causing substances right
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Even from the mom to the child.
So the good thing is that theseare things that we can be
proactive about and we shouldlive a life of detoxification is
what I always say.
We should detox every day, andI'm not the best example, but I
do my best and every morning Istart off with a prayer and I
(06:02):
thank the Lord for another day,and then one of the first things
I do in the morning is to do acoffee enema, because the liver
is the biggest organ ofdetoxification after the skin.
So it is said that if the liveris challenged, the whole body
is challenged, right?
So I like to start off with acoffee enema.
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I add filigit.
Filigit is a resin that comesfrom the Himalayas, the high
mountain altitude area, and it'sbasically humic acid and folic
acid, and this is a binder, alsoto help get rid of toxins, and
for me, it even gives me energy.
Right, I feel better cognitivehealth and feel like, wow, now
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let's go.
Let's go.
Whatever hits me this day.
You know, I'm in a bettersituation to to take it straight
on right now I'm drinking mydandelion root tea.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That helped me to detox amen to that.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'll cheer you on now because I have some tea is here
as well look at us, we're sohealthy, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But I do have a question, like obviously in this
world it's going to be worseand worse, the uh, the emfs.
I mean it's hard to avoid thatbecause I mean towers are going
up everywhere, and what kind ofprevention?
Or obviously we can't totallyget away from it, but what can
we do to kind of get around that?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, there's some things we can definitely do and
they don't cost us much, and itjust costs us to be proactive
and make those decisions and, asyou said, teaching our children
right, simple things that arevery powerful, like removing or
distancing ourselves fromradiation, emf, 5g, wi-fi as
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much as possible.
So one thing is shut off yourwi-fi at night.
You're not going to be checkingyour emails when you're asleep,
so you don't need wi-fi.
Shut that off.
Get a grounding sheet orgrounding pillowcase and ground
yourself.
Don't charge your cell phone onyour night table.
That cell phone should be atleast 10, 15 feet away from your
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bed, preferably more.
Put it in the bathroom, put itin your office or somewhere away
in the kitchen from yourbedroom and get a good night's
sleep, because from 10 pm to 2am is when the body restores,
regenerates, repairs and heals,and so prepare yourself for a
(08:32):
good night's sleep, and that hasto do a lot with light exposure
and dirty electricity and allthis.
The other thing is going tonature right, being in nature,
being outdoor as much aspossible, and, of course,
nutrition.
The closer we are to the garden, god's creation, the healthier
it is.
There's a lot of foods that aredetoxing in nature.
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Juicing is a big deal, right,because juicing is the best way
to detox the blood, for example.
And so a lot that we could dowith nutrition, with preventing
close exposures to theseelectromagnetic fields, and also
detoxing doing livergallbladder cleanses every few
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months, doing a parasite cleanse, because when there's an
environment in the body thatfavors cancer, you first have
EMFs, you have heavy metal, youhave parasites, and so we need
to not create that favorableenvironment for cancer to thrive
or to develop in the firstplace.
(09:38):
So, yeah, a lot of things wecould do.
Hydration, of course, right,jim, so important.
Half of your body weight inounces tends to be the rule of
thumb for hydration.
Make it clean, filtered water.
If you want to go a bit higherwith that, then hydrogen water
is what I recommend, because themost abundant element in the
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universe and every biochemicalreaction in the body requires
hydrogen, and at the cell levelit has been shown that hydrogen
stores can be a bit low ordepleted.
So hydrogen water is anotherkey component for health and
detoxing and also decreasing theeffects of this electromagnetic
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field of radiation.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Okay, and I was mentioning to you before we
started recording that I don'tknow how many episodes we've
done 110, 120, somewhere aroundthere but I hear, of course.
I hear about Chris Wark andChris B Cancer and his square
one, and then I always hearabout Hope for Cancer which, in
case you know, maybe someone'slistening to this episode.
(10:51):
As the first one, we aretalking to Dr Tony, who is the
founder and chief medicalofficer at the Hope for Cancer
Treatment Centers, which are inMexico.
There's two locations stillright.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yes, yes, one in Tijuana, mexico, south of San
Diego, california, that weopened in the year 2000.
And then the Cancun Center weopened in the year 2015.
So, as you can see, we've beenaround for a long time.
I personally have over 30 yearsin the integrative cancer field
(11:22):
.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Is there ever a time that you should use chemo?
I mean, obviously there's sucha bigger world to healing, but
is there ever a time to usechemo?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The answer is yes.
We are one of my seven keyprinciples that form the
foundation of our therapy atHope for Cancer.
The first one is non-toxiccancer therapy.
But that being said, jim, andeveryone listening is sometimes
we have to give what we call IPT, insulin potentiation therapy,
(11:58):
which is lower dose chemotherapy, very effective, much less
harsh on the body.
Patients are not lying aroundin bed sick and vomiting and
diarrhea and so forth, andbecause they come with so much
tumor burden, just a lot ofcancer.
And so you, especially thosepatients that have not received
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chemo before, they may have andoftentimes have a very good
response, not, jim, as a meansto an end but as part to debulk,
to decrease tumor load, whilewe're following all the seven
key principles right.
So there is time when chemo isneeded, we prefer to do it in a
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low-dose fashion.
Time when chemo is needed, weprefer to do it in a low-dose
fashion.
There is time when radiation isneeded.
We had a patient recently thathad metastasis from a breast
cancer to her lower back and thepain was excruciating.
So what is better to put her onhigh-pain medication that may
include narcotics like morphineand opioids, or to give her five
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to seven spot radiationsessions to that affected back
area.
Well, obviously, the radiationwhich is targeted, we call it
spot radiation.
Five to seven sessions, andguess what?
Her pain was 95% better and shedidn't need to take any
morphine, which suppresses theimmune system and suppresses
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healing.
So there are times, jim, whenradiation has also an indication
and, of course, surgery, thethird part of all this right.
If someone has an occlusion oran obstruction, we need to
remove that obstructionsurgically.
Oftentimes patients that haveliver metastasis also have bile
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duct obstruction.
So in that case our surgeonplaces a stent, which is a
little catheter, to open up thatcompressed or collapsed bile
duct, and so you put that stentin in a minimally invasive
procedure and then the bilestarts to flow, the yellowness
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goes away, the itching goes awayand then you have time to
continue with the treatment plan.
So it's truly how and when,using our wisdom and our
experience and the patient'sfeedback, when to utilize these
toxic therapies Of course theproblem is that so much of the
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medical community, that's alltheir training.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So it's like, hey, you got cancer, let's bring out
the chemo radiation and if theycan survive that then they don't
change anything else.
And of course usuallyeventually they don't survive it
because the cancer is not gone,it comes back.
So the good thing about hopefor cancer, first of all, the
good thing is, the first word inthere is hope, because we all
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need the hope.
If we don't have hope, yourbody is just chances of it.
Recovering is not that good.
If your mentality is, I have nohope.
But when you come to your placeand you do and I know we've
touched on several of themalready, but the seven key
principles of cancer therapy,well, why don't we just touch on
each one of those briefly?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, I'll start with what I considered the most.
They're all key principles,right, but one of them always
stands out and also, becauseit's oftentimes not addressed in
the best of cancer hospitals inthe world and I'm talking about
even integrative alternativecancer hospitals For sure, it's
not addressed in theconventional hospital setting,
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but that's the emotional,spiritual health, and this is so
, so important.
As a matter of fact, my secondbook that will be published and
released in March of 2025, justa short few months away is
called Emotions and Cancer, andthe reason I'm writing that as
(16:03):
my second book is because I haveseen in my 30 plus years of
experience in oncology thatunless we really go to the root
causes from an emotional,spiritual perspective, root
causes from an emotional,spiritual perspective, it's
going to be tough for thephysical body to heal, and I
believe we heal from thespiritual, emotional, mental and
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then the physical body.
And so that is a very, very keyprinciple, and I encourage all
of you, no matter if you thinkthat everything is great in your
life.
You had a happy childhood, youknow your kids love you, your
parents loved you, your spouseloves you, neighbors, we're
Hebrews and we live in thisworld, and so we all have a
(16:44):
backpack of stuff right, and sowe need to get the stuff out of
the backpack and then thehealing happens in not a linear
fashion, but it happens in aquantum fashion, like leaps and
bounds of healing.
So I encourage all thelisteners and viewers to focus
on that emotional, spiritual,health and recovery and
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releasing these conflicts andtraumas.
We call it the BEST program,b-e-s-t, and that stands for
behavioral, emotional andspiritual transformation, and
that's really what it is,because when you do the
releasing and you do this workand the letting go,
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transformation happens at manylevels, including the physical
body, at many levels, includingthe physical body.
So, if I go on with the otherones I mentioned non-toxic
cancer therapies, the emotional,spiritual the other one is the
microbiome and oftentimes wethink about the gut, right, but
the gut-brain connection, butthe microbiome of the whole body
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, the microbiome of our skin,the dental or a microbiome
that's a big one, because wecannot heal when we have
toxicity in our mouth and rootcanals and metal fillings and so
forth.
The other toxicity that we needto oftentimes you know it's not
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addresses emotional toxicity.
I often, oftentimes say that anegative thought can kill you
faster than a bad germ.
So let's turn those negativethoughts to positive thoughts,
to optimism.
It doesn't matter what youroncologist told you with respect
to, oh, you know, you have sixmonths to live.
(18:37):
At best, if you do this chemoand so forth, you could have two
years to five years.
Well, who can say that?
Right, and you mentioned theword hope several times, jim,
and no one can take your hopeaway but yourself, right?
Don't let anyone in.
Hope is a gift that we receivefrom our Creator, and so God has
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given us that hope, and sodon't allow anyone to take that
hope away from you.
So that's very important.
Obviously, the microbiome.
And then the next key principleis detoxification.
I mentioned that we need tolive a life of detoxification.
And the next key principle isnutrition, and that's often one
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that you know it's a lot ofconfusion.
That will be a whole show onnutrition, right?
But you mentioned Chris Wark inhis square one.
A lot to be said about hisinformation there with nutrition
.
I want to leave you with onethought, however.
Uh, chris, and I agree that weshould be plant-based, right?
Uh, and that's, we call it thegarden food plan at hope for
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cancer.
The closer we are to the garden, the better it is, but make
sure your nutrition ispersonalized for you, right?
So work for Chris or work forDr Tony or someone else.
That doesn't mean that'sexactly your nutrition plan.
Broccoli may not be good foryou, jim, even though there's 20
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studies or 30 studies onbroccoli and its benefit, but it
might not be good for you.
So the key point here is makenutrition personalized and
individualized for yourself.
And then the next key principleis oxygenation, and oftentimes
we are low, shallow breathers.
We take a deep breath and itfeels uncomfortable.
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So anything that you could dowith oxygenation is key to
health and recovery and healing.
And just get out 10 minutes aday.
Don't give me a marathon everyweek.
Just give me 10, 15 minutes aday or every other day.
Do some flexibility.
Do some lightweight, resistantworkouts and the aerobic with
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walking and then stretchingflexibility.
If you could do those threethings and there's no reason you
can't this is a greatinvestment for your health.
The amount of muscle mass thatone has is directly proportional
to our lifespan, meaning thegreater muscle mass and I'm not
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talking about being like ArnoldSchwarzenegger, I'm just talking
about fat versus muscle mass,right?
So the more muscle mass we have, the healthier we will live and
the luckier we will live, thebetter cognitive health we will
have, meaning the pain will workbetter, right.
So oxygenation is key.
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And then the last one that Iwant to talk about is the immune
.
We call it immunomodulation.
That's key principle numberseven.
And to that aspect I just wantto mention briefly that at Hope
for Cancer we just rolled outour next bestest I don't know if
bestest is a word, but our nextand bestest bioimmunotherapy.
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This is a biological, non-toxicimmunotherapy that is comprised
of five substances or fivedifferent products, all coming
together to have tremendousbenefit for both the quick
acting immune system and thelong-term immune system.
So these five products four areoral, three are capsules, one
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is liquid and then the fitproduct is injectable, so it's
done under the skin like aninsulin shot twice a week.
Twice a week, and we like thatto be for about three months.
But this is a very importantbioimmunotherapy that we just
rolled out Took years in themakings and a lot of work and
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research.
We're calling it, jim andeveryone, davida D-A and then
Vida V, as in Victor I-D-A, andthe reason I came up with that
name is in Spanish or Latin,davida means to give life, and
so this is giving life to theimmune system, and the immune
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system is very complex.
So we believe that with thisDaVida bioimmunotherapy, which
is non-toxic, we're reallyupregulating the immune system
at multiple, many levels and itis safe, effective and non-toxic
with respect to the immunesystem.
So we're really excited aboutthe DaVita bioimmunotherapy as
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our latest offering in ourefforts always to bring the best
of the best to our patients.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I don't know if you remember or not, but I went
through immunotherapy for mystage four melanoma, but it was
Opdivo, which.
How does that compare tosomething like that?
I mean, obviously that's notobvious in anything because I'm
not good with the medical world,but is that more toxic because
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it's a chemical, or what's thestory there?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, that's a good thought and question, jim.
This is why we call thesebio-immunotherapies, versus the
toxic immunotherapies that yourefer to, like the Abdevos, the
Gervois, the Keytruda and theseconventional immunotherapies.
They target, jim, a specificreceptor on the cancer cells.
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So when you had melanoma withthe Abdevo, those melanoma cells
needed to have a specificreceptor on the cell membrane so
that the abdevo could go inthere like a locking key and
affect the tumor.
But if some of those melanomacells because they're never
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always the same if they didn'thave those same receptors, the
abdevo was not going to doanything right Because it's
based on the receptors.
With any of those Keytruda,abdevo, gervoy or other
immunotherapies when we talkabout the Vita, for example,
being a biological immunotherapywe're upregulating your own
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immune system, your God-givenimmune system, independently of
these receptors and therebyupregulating your immune system
so that your immune system couldattack the cancer and have a
favorable response without toxicside effects.
So think about it like this howmany children do you have, jim,
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if I can ask Four, four, four,okay.
Same dad?
Yep, yes, same mom?
Yes, are those four childrenthe same?
Do they look alike?
Do they behave alike?
Do they think alike?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I keep thinking they're adopted.
But yeah, they're all different.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Definitely they're all different, so they're all
different.
So let's say a canceroriginates in the breast and it
metastasizes, let's say, to theliver or to the lung, or even
within the breast there'smultiple tumors, right, all
those kids are not the same,like your four kids are not the
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same.
They came from the same mom anddad.
My six kids are not the same,like your four kids are not the
same.
That came from the same mom anddad.
My six kids are not the sameand so the cancer cells are not
the same.
So when you give to answer yourquestion when you give those
Abdevo and Dervoid and thoseimmunotherapies, it might hit
one of the kids because he orshe has that receptor, but
they're all different kids.
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So you were blessed that Idon't know the full story, but
Abdevo helped you a lot and ofcourse I know there was many
other things, but because Abdevois not going to cure any cancer
, there was a combination ofmany other things.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yes, yeah, I had like eight tumors, I think it was
throughout my body and they allshrunk within the first two
months of this and I had veryfew side effects.
So I think I'm very fortunate.
Yes, because I know some peoplehave some crazy side effects or
some of them.
I know one friend his tumorsdoubled and that's not a good
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thing.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's not a good thing.
Yes, yes, so yeah we're blessedand we're happy for those
results, but you said that theyshrunk.
What happened?
Now I'm asking you questions.
What happened after the tumorsshrunk?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well, I've had a few scans past that and you know,
and there's a few of them wherethe tumors were there's just a
little mark on there.
They said they assume that'sjust scar tissue, okay, and in
fact, coming up in a couple ofmonths, they want me to do an
MRI.
We're going to do one last scan, we're going to do an MRI and
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then, if it's the way we thinkit is, we'll just close the
books on you.
So I guess they're going to putme to sleep or something.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And you should follow the seven key principles.
You should continue drinkingyour dandelion tea, you should
continue with the good nutrition, all the things you know.
And I would recommend orsuggest to you, jim, that you
consider asking your doctorabout a test called a Signaterra
Signaterra I'm not sure ifthey've done that yet.
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It's S-I-G-N-A-T-E-R-R-ASignaterra.
It might have one R, but it'ssignetera, and this is to look
for circulating tumor cells.
These are the cells that leftthe tumors and now they're
circulating in the bloodstream.
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So the MRI might be negativeand Lord willing it is and it
will be negative.
No tumors found in the MRI.
But what if there are somecirculating tumor cells that can
be circulating for a year, twoyears, three years, five years
and then show up somewhere?
So with the Signatera test,which is a test done in the US,
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they could check for anycirculating tumor cells and that
will give you another datapoint which will give you a
peace of mind right as to therisk of a recurrence or this
thing being found somewhere atsome point.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, yeah, I'll definitely do that.
I have a good doctor.
He actually he's against usingchemo, but he doesn't have to.
He's into like the latestimmunotherapies I mean, they're
all developing, of course, andhe talks over my head so I'm not
sure what he's talking aboutbut he does know the importance
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of nutrition and exercise andmindset.
So, yeah, he sees the bigpicture, so I'm kind of excited
about that.
But, yeah, he sees the bigpicture, so I'm kind of excited
about that.
But, yeah, definitely checkthat out.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, that's awesome and he was very wise.
Obviously he knows thatmelanoma does not respond to
chemotherapy, right?
This is where immunotherapy isthe first line of therapy and a
lot of work was done, even withviruses, in melanoma, and that's
a whole different story.
But yeah, melanoma has itspeculiarities that chemo is not
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indicated.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Okay, I feel like you need to send me a bill, but I
won't give you my address.
Well, dr Tony, what's comingdown the road for you other than
the book that's coming out inMarch?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I want to say we are opening, as of now, a wellness
program, and so this is to beahead of it, right where
patients that are presumablyhealthy, they've had blood tests
by their conventional doctors,they've had, you know, x-rays
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and ultrasound thyroid test,prostate check.
But let's be more proactive onwellness.
So we're very happy we havesome great wellness diagnostic
or assessment tools that gobeyond blood testing, and
there's many reasons for that.
That's a long topic, uh, butyeah, good assessment sooner,
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quicker, finding potentialdysfunctions in the body before
they present themselves as atumor, for example.
Right, it's so important.
So, really excited about thewellness program.
I have participated myself inthe wellness program, so I
encourage the listeners, theviewers, to give yourself that
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gift, whether now, in the restof 2024 or coming in 2025, to
consider the Hope for CancerWellness, medical Wellness
Program.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay, and all that information, of course, is the
hopeforcancercom, that's thehope and the number for
cancercom.
Well, dr Tony, it's always apleasure talking to you.
You actually talk on my level,so I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Well, you know, I'm a simple guy from a small village
.
I have to understand myself aswell.
So we're on the same page,thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
All right, well, thank you so much for taking the
time to do this.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Blessings to you, Jim , and to the Healing Strong
family.
We love you and blessings.
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I encourage all of you, no matter if you think that
you know everything is great inyour life.
You had a happy childhood.
You know your kids love you,your parents loved you, your
spouse loves you.
We're humans and we live inthis world, and so we all have a
backpack of stuff, right, andso we need to get the stuff out
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of the backpack, and then thehealing happens in not a linear
fashion, but it happens in aquantum fashion, like leaps and
bounds of healing.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast,
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Each week we bring you storiesof hope, real stories that will
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health.
Now here's your host stage fourcancer thriver, jim Mann.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Dr Tony from Hope for Cancer.
So good to have you along withus.
I believe this is the thirdtime you've been on our episode,
so you did something good thelast two times.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Thank you so much, jim.
It's my gift to be on theHealing Strong platform because
it's a very important group ofpeople that are helping and
giving hope to many.
So we had a small prayer beforewe went on live and Jim prayed
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about hope and about what'shappening and how it's needed
now in the world of cancer leveljournal, the Lancet just
published this year, in 2024,recently, and it's titled Cancer
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is on the Rise in Young AdultsMore Than Ever.
So why more than ever?
Right, we've been in this questto find better options in
cancer besides chemotherapy,radiation and surgery and
immunotherapy, and they talkabout in this publication that
between 1990 and 2019, the casesof cancer in young people
across the world increased by79% and deaths rose.
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The death rate rose by 28%.
This is just unheard of.
And where is all this creaturegoing?
17 cancers that are on the risefor young adults, and you name
them colorectal cancer,gallbladder, kidney, pancreas,
stomach, leukemia, breast cancer.
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You know, the list goes on andon.
And this is exactly, jim andeveryone at Haley's Journal,
what we are seeing now at Hopefor Cancer Younger patients with
cancer.
Then we have all thosestatistics Younger patients with
cancer, more aggressive cancersand patients that were in
remission, coming out ofremission, and so there's
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something obviously contributingto this, and there are many
thoughts, of course, jim, onthis, whether it's related to
the COVID pandemic,environmental pollution,
toxicities, you know, the waterquality and so forth, and that's
all of it.
It's all of it that isparticipating in these findings.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I would imagine you know there's so many more
toxins that are out thereobviously contributing to that.
And of course, the cell phone.
I mean, I'm sure there's a risein brain cancer because of the
cell phone when you put that upagainst your head.
Yeah, we don't really know downthe road how that will affect
things, because that's still afairly new thing.
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And then the AirPods that somany people have.
They live.
One of my kids lives with thosein his ears.
I keep telling him.
I say you don't need to do that, get something with wires.
I finally convinced him to atleast just put the headphones
with wires on them.
I said it's not as cool lookingbut it'll be very cool down the
road, much more than the otherones.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, definitely EMF toxicity is a big player here
and especially, as you mentioned, young children and young
adults.
When their brain is stilldeveloping, they're more
susceptible to mutations andthings going wrong.
So definitely what we found andothers have confirmed this in
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studies is that the three maintoxicities now number one is
aluminum, number two isglyphosate, and that's the
Roundup Monsanto, and thennumber three is exactly what
you're talking about, Jim is EMFelectromagnetic field radiation
.
So if we start off withdetoxing and eliminating those
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three major toxicities thatwe're exposed to, it will give
us a head start right.
And going back to this Lancetpublication, it says suspected
causes.
This is a peer-reviewedconventional journal saying
suspected causes of this higherincidence of cancer in young
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adults, increased rates ofobesity, dietary habits, and
here it is environmental toxins,chemicals that were introduced
in the 50s and 60s, and then thefourth one that they mentioned
is early life exposures tocancer causing substances right
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Even from the mom to the child.
So the good thing is that theseare things that we can be
proactive about and we shouldlive a life of detoxification is
what I always say.
We should detox every day, andI'm not the best example, but I
do my best and every morning Istart off with a prayer and I
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thank the Lord for another day,and then one of the first things
I do in the morning is to do acoffee enema, because the liver
is the biggest organ ofdetoxification after the skin.
So it is said that if the liveris challenged, the whole body
is challenged, right?
So I like to start off with acoffee enema.
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I add filigit.
Filigit is a resin that comesfrom the Himalayas, the high
mountain altitude area, and it'sbasically humic acid and folic
acid, and this is a binder, alsoto help get rid of toxins, and
for me, it even gives me energy.
Right, I feel better cognitivehealth and feel like, wow, now
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let's go.
Let's go.
Whatever hits me this day.
You know, I'm in a bettersituation to to take it straight
on right now I'm drinking mydandelion root tea.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That helped me to detox amen to that.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'll cheer you on now because I have some tea is here
as well look at us, we're sohealthy, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But I do have a question, like obviously in this
world it's going to be worseand worse, the uh, the emfs.
I mean it's hard to avoid thatbecause I mean towers are going
up everywhere, and what kind ofprevention?
Or obviously we can't totallyget away from it, but what can
we do to kind of get around that?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, there's some things we can definitely do and
they don't cost us much, and itjust costs us to be proactive
and make those decisions and, asyou said, teaching our children
right, simple things that arevery powerful, like removing or
distancing ourselves fromradiation, emf, 5g, wi-fi as
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much as possible.
So one thing is shut off yourwi-fi at night.
You're not going to be checkingyour emails when you're asleep,
so you don't need wi-fi.
Shut that off.
Get a grounding sheet orgrounding pillowcase and ground
yourself.
Don't charge your cell phone onyour night table.
That cell phone should be atleast 10, 15 feet away from your
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bed, preferably more.
Put it in the bathroom, put itin your office or somewhere away
in the kitchen from yourbedroom and get a good night's
sleep, because from 10 pm to 2am is when the body restores,
regenerates, repairs and heals,and so prepare yourself for a
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good night's sleep, and that hasto do a lot with light exposure
and dirty electricity and allthis.
The other thing is going tonature right, being in nature,
being outdoor as much aspossible, and, of course,
nutrition.
The closer we are to the garden, god's creation, the healthier
it is.
There's a lot of foods that aredetoxing in nature.
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Juicing is a big deal, right,because juicing is the best way
to detox the blood, for example.
And so a lot that we could dowith nutrition, with preventing
close exposures to theseelectromagnetic fields, and also
detoxing doing livergallbladder cleanses every few
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months, doing a parasite cleanse, because when there's an
environment in the body thatfavors cancer, you first have
EMFs, you have heavy metal, youhave parasites, and so we need
to not create that favorableenvironment for cancer to thrive
or to develop in the firstplace.
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So, yeah, a lot of things wecould do.
Hydration, of course, right,jim, so important.
Half of your body weight inounces tends to be the rule of
thumb for hydration.
Make it clean, filtered water.
If you want to go a bit higherwith that, then hydrogen water
is what I recommend, because themost abundant element in the
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universe and every biochemicalreaction in the body requires
hydrogen, and at the cell levelit has been shown that hydrogen
stores can be a bit low ordepleted.
So hydrogen water is anotherkey component for health and
detoxing and also decreasing theeffects of this electromagnetic
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field of radiation.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Okay, and I was mentioning to you before we
started recording that I don'tknow how many episodes we've
done 110, 120, somewhere aroundthere but I hear, of course.
I hear about Chris Wark andChris B Cancer and his square
one, and then I always hearabout Hope for Cancer which, in
case you know, maybe someone'slistening to this episode.
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As the first one, we aretalking to Dr Tony, who is the
founder and chief medicalofficer at the Hope for Cancer
Treatment Centers, which are inMexico.
There's two locations stillright.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yes, yes, one in Tijuana, mexico, south of San
Diego, california, that weopened in the year 2000.
And then the Cancun Center weopened in the year 2015.
So, as you can see, we've beenaround for a long time.
I personally have over 30 yearsin the integrative cancer field
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.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Is there ever a time that you should use chemo?
I mean, obviously there's sucha bigger world to healing, but
is there ever a time to usechemo?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The answer is yes.
We are one of my seven keyprinciples that form the
foundation of our therapy atHope for Cancer.
The first one is non-toxiccancer therapy.
But that being said, jim, andeveryone listening is sometimes
we have to give what we call IPT, insulin potentiation therapy,
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which is lower dose chemotherapy, very effective, much less
harsh on the body.
Patients are not lying aroundin bed sick and vomiting and
diarrhea and so forth, andbecause they come with so much
tumor burden, just a lot ofcancer.
And so you, especially thosepatients that have not received
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chemo before, they may have andoftentimes have a very good
response, not, jim, as a meansto an end but as part to debulk,
to decrease tumor load, whilewe're following all the seven
key principles right.
So there is time when chemo isneeded, we prefer to do it in a
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low-dose fashion.
Time when chemo is needed, weprefer to do it in a low-dose
fashion.
There is time when radiation isneeded.
We had a patient recently thathad metastasis from a breast
cancer to her lower back and thepain was excruciating.
So what is better to put her onhigh-pain medication that may
include narcotics like morphineand opioids, or to give her five
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to seven spot radiationsessions to that affected back
area.
Well, obviously, the radiationwhich is targeted, we call it
spot radiation.
Five to seven sessions, andguess what?
Her pain was 95% better and shedidn't need to take any
morphine, which suppresses theimmune system and suppresses
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healing.
So there are times, jim, whenradiation has also an indication
and, of course, surgery, thethird part of all this right.
If someone has an occlusion oran obstruction, we need to
remove that obstructionsurgically.
Oftentimes patients that haveliver metastasis also have bile
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duct obstruction.
So in that case our surgeonplaces a stent, which is a
little catheter, to open up thatcompressed or collapsed bile
duct, and so you put that stentin in a minimally invasive
procedure and then the bilestarts to flow, the yellowness
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goes away, the itching goes awayand then you have time to
continue with the treatment plan.
So it's truly how and when,using our wisdom and our
experience and the patient'sfeedback, when to utilize these
toxic therapies Of course theproblem is that so much of the
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medical community, that's alltheir training.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So it's like, hey, you got cancer, let's bring out
the chemo radiation and if theycan survive that then they don't
change anything else.
And of course usuallyeventually they don't survive it
because the cancer is not gone,it comes back.
So the good thing about hopefor cancer, first of all, the
good thing is, the first word inthere is hope, because we all
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need the hope.
If we don't have hope, yourbody is just chances of it.
Recovering is not that good.
If your mentality is, I have nohope.
But when you come to your placeand you do and I know we've
touched on several of themalready, but the seven key
principles of cancer therapy,well, why don't we just touch on
each one of those briefly?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, I'll start with what I considered the most.
They're all key principles,right, but one of them always
stands out and also, becauseit's oftentimes not addressed in
the best of cancer hospitals inthe world and I'm talking about
even integrative alternativecancer hospitals For sure, it's
not addressed in theconventional hospital setting,
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but that's the emotional,spiritual health, and this is so
, so important.
As a matter of fact, my secondbook that will be published and
released in March of 2025, justa short few months away is
called Emotions and Cancer, andthe reason I'm writing that as
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my second book is because I haveseen in my 30 plus years of
experience in oncology thatunless we really go to the root
causes from an emotional,spiritual perspective, root
causes from an emotional,spiritual perspective, it's
going to be tough for thephysical body to heal, and I
believe we heal from thespiritual, emotional, mental and
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then the physical body.
And so that is a very, very keyprinciple, and I encourage all
of you, no matter if you thinkthat everything is great in your
life.
You had a happy childhood, youknow your kids love you, your
parents loved you, your spouseloves you, neighbors, we're
Hebrews and we live in thisworld, and so we all have a
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backpack of stuff right, and sowe need to get the stuff out of
the backpack and then thehealing happens in not a linear
fashion, but it happens in aquantum fashion, like leaps and
bounds of healing.
So I encourage all thelisteners and viewers to focus
on that emotional, spiritual,health and recovery and
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releasing these conflicts andtraumas.
We call it the BEST program,b-e-s-t, and that stands for
behavioral, emotional andspiritual transformation, and
that's really what it is,because when you do the
releasing and you do this workand the letting go,
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transformation happens at manylevels, including the physical
body, at many levels, includingthe physical body.
So, if I go on with the otherones I mentioned non-toxic
cancer therapies, the emotional,spiritual the other one is the
microbiome and oftentimes wethink about the gut, right, but
the gut-brain connection, butthe microbiome of the whole body
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, the microbiome of our skin,the dental or a microbiome
that's a big one, because wecannot heal when we have
toxicity in our mouth and rootcanals and metal fillings and so
forth.
The other toxicity that we needto oftentimes you know it's not
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addresses emotional toxicity.
I often, oftentimes say that anegative thought can kill you
faster than a bad germ.
So let's turn those negativethoughts to positive thoughts,
to optimism.
It doesn't matter what youroncologist told you with respect
to, oh, you know, you have sixmonths to live.
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At best, if you do this chemoand so forth, you could have two
years to five years.
Well, who can say that?
Right, and you mentioned theword hope several times, jim,
and no one can take your hopeaway but yourself, right?
Don't let anyone in.
Hope is a gift that we receivefrom our Creator, and so God has
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given us that hope, and sodon't allow anyone to take that
hope away from you.
So that's very important.
Obviously, the microbiome.
And then the next key principleis detoxification.
I mentioned that we need tolive a life of detoxification.
And the next key principle isnutrition, and that's often one
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that you know it's a lot ofconfusion.
That will be a whole show onnutrition, right?
But you mentioned Chris Wark inhis square one.
A lot to be said about hisinformation there with nutrition
.
I want to leave you with onethought, however.
Uh, chris, and I agree that weshould be plant-based, right?
Uh, and that's, we call it thegarden food plan at hope for
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cancer.
The closer we are to the garden, the better it is, but make
sure your nutrition ispersonalized for you, right?
So work for Chris or work forDr Tony or someone else.
That doesn't mean that'sexactly your nutrition plan.
Broccoli may not be good foryou, jim, even though there's 20
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studies or 30 studies onbroccoli and its benefit, but it
might not be good for you.
So the key point here is makenutrition personalized and
individualized for yourself.
And then the next key principleis oxygenation, and oftentimes
we are low, shallow breathers.
We take a deep breath and itfeels uncomfortable.
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So anything that you could dowith oxygenation is key to
health and recovery and healing.
And just get out 10 minutes aday.
Don't give me a marathon everyweek.
Just give me 10, 15 minutes aday or every other day.
Do some flexibility.
Do some lightweight, resistantworkouts and the aerobic with
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walking and then stretchingflexibility.
If you could do those threethings and there's no reason you
can't this is a greatinvestment for your health.
The amount of muscle mass thatone has is directly proportional
to our lifespan, meaning thegreater muscle mass and I'm not
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talking about being like ArnoldSchwarzenegger, I'm just talking
about fat versus muscle mass,right?
So the more muscle mass we have, the healthier we will live and
the luckier we will live, thebetter cognitive health we will
have, meaning the pain will workbetter, right.
So oxygenation is key.
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And then the last one that Iwant to talk about is the immune
.
We call it immunomodulation.
That's key principle numberseven.
And to that aspect I just wantto mention briefly that at Hope
for Cancer we just rolled outour next bestest I don't know if
bestest is a word, but our nextand bestest bioimmunotherapy.
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This is a biological, non-toxicimmunotherapy that is comprised
of five substances or fivedifferent products, all coming
together to have tremendousbenefit for both the quick
acting immune system and thelong-term immune system.
So these five products four areoral, three are capsules, one
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is liquid and then the fitproduct is injectable, so it's
done under the skin like aninsulin shot twice a week.
Twice a week, and we like thatto be for about three months.
But this is a very importantbioimmunotherapy that we just
rolled out Took years in themakings and a lot of work and
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research.
We're calling it, jim andeveryone, davida D-A and then
Vida V, as in Victor I-D-A, andthe reason I came up with that
name is in Spanish or Latin,davida means to give life, and
so this is giving life to theimmune system, and the immune
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system is very complex.
So we believe that with thisDaVida bioimmunotherapy, which
is non-toxic, we're reallyupregulating the immune system
at multiple, many levels and itis safe, effective and non-toxic
with respect to the immunesystem.
So we're really excited aboutthe DaVita bioimmunotherapy as
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our latest offering in ourefforts always to bring the best
of the best to our patients.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I don't know if you remember or not, but I went
through immunotherapy for mystage four melanoma, but it was
Opdivo, which.
How does that compare tosomething like that?
I mean, obviously that's notobvious in anything because I'm
not good with the medical world,but is that more toxic because
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it's a chemical, or what's thestory there?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, that's a good thought and question, jim.
This is why we call thesebio-immunotherapies, versus the
toxic immunotherapies that yourefer to, like the Abdevos, the
Gervois, the Keytruda and theseconventional immunotherapies.
They target, jim, a specificreceptor on the cancer cells.
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So when you had melanoma withthe Abdevo, those melanoma cells
needed to have a specificreceptor on the cell membrane so
that the abdevo could go inthere like a locking key and
affect the tumor.
But if some of those melanomacells because they're never
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always the same if they didn'thave those same receptors, the
abdevo was not going to doanything right Because it's
based on the receptors.
With any of those Keytruda,abdevo, gervoy or other
immunotherapies when we talkabout the Vita, for example,
being a biological immunotherapywe're upregulating your own
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immune system, your God-givenimmune system, independently of
these receptors and therebyupregulating your immune system
so that your immune system couldattack the cancer and have a
favorable response without toxicside effects.
So think about it like this howmany children do you have, jim,
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if I can ask Four, four, four,okay.
Same dad?
Yep, yes, same mom?
Yes, are those four childrenthe same?
Do they look alike?
Do they behave alike?
Do they think alike?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I keep thinking they're adopted.
But yeah, they're all different.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Definitely they're all different, so they're all
different.
So let's say a canceroriginates in the breast and it
metastasizes, let's say, to theliver or to the lung, or even
within the breast there'smultiple tumors, right, all
those kids are not the same,like your four kids are not the
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same.
They came from the same mom anddad.
My six kids are not the same,like your four kids are not the
same.
That came from the same mom anddad.
My six kids are not the sameand so the cancer cells are not
the same.
So when you give to answer yourquestion when you give those
Abdevo and Dervoid and thoseimmunotherapies, it might hit
one of the kids because he orshe has that receptor, but
they're all different kids.
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So you were blessed that Idon't know the full story, but
Abdevo helped you a lot and ofcourse I know there was many
other things, but because Abdevois not going to cure any cancer
, there was a combination ofmany other things.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yes, yeah, I had like eight tumors, I think it was
throughout my body and they allshrunk within the first two
months of this and I had veryfew side effects.
So I think I'm very fortunate.
Yes, because I know some peoplehave some crazy side effects or
some of them.
I know one friend his tumorsdoubled and that's not a good
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thing.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's not a good thing.
Yes, yes, so yeah we're blessedand we're happy for those
results, but you said that theyshrunk.
What happened?
Now I'm asking you questions.
What happened after the tumorsshrunk?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well, I've had a few scans past that and you know,
and there's a few of them wherethe tumors were there's just a
little mark on there.
They said they assume that'sjust scar tissue, okay, and in
fact, coming up in a couple ofmonths, they want me to do an
MRI.
We're going to do one last scan, we're going to do an MRI and
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then, if it's the way we thinkit is, we'll just close the
books on you.
So I guess they're going to putme to sleep or something.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And you should follow the seven key principles.
You should continue drinkingyour dandelion tea, you should
continue with the good nutrition, all the things you know.
And I would recommend orsuggest to you, jim, that you
consider asking your doctorabout a test called a Signaterra
Signaterra I'm not sure ifthey've done that yet.
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It's S-I-G-N-A-T-E-R-R-ASignaterra.
It might have one R, but it'ssignetera, and this is to look
for circulating tumor cells.
These are the cells that leftthe tumors and now they're
circulating in the bloodstream.
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So the MRI might be negativeand Lord willing it is and it
will be negative.
No tumors found in the MRI.
But what if there are somecirculating tumor cells that can
be circulating for a year, twoyears, three years, five years
and then show up somewhere?
So with the Signatera test,which is a test done in the US,
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they could check for anycirculating tumor cells and that
will give you another datapoint which will give you a
peace of mind right as to therisk of a recurrence or this
thing being found somewhere atsome point.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, yeah, I'll definitely do that.
I have a good doctor.
He actually he's against usingchemo, but he doesn't have to.
He's into like the latestimmunotherapies I mean, they're
all developing, of course, andhe talks over my head so I'm not
sure what he's talking aboutbut he does know the importance
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of nutrition and exercise andmindset.
So, yeah, he sees the bigpicture, so I'm kind of excited
about that.
But, yeah, he sees the bigpicture, so I'm kind of excited
about that.
But, yeah, definitely checkthat out.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, that's awesome and he was very wise.
Obviously he knows thatmelanoma does not respond to
chemotherapy, right?
This is where immunotherapy isthe first line of therapy and a
lot of work was done, even withviruses, in melanoma, and that's
a whole different story.
But yeah, melanoma has itspeculiarities that chemo is not
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indicated.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Okay, I feel like you need to send me a bill, but I
won't give you my address.
Well, dr Tony, what's comingdown the road for you other than
the book that's coming out inMarch?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I want to say we are opening, as of now, a wellness
program, and so this is to beahead of it, right where
patients that are presumablyhealthy, they've had blood tests
by their conventional doctors,they've had, you know, x-rays
(31:00):
and ultrasound thyroid test,prostate check.
But let's be more proactive onwellness.
So we're very happy we havesome great wellness diagnostic
or assessment tools that gobeyond blood testing, and
there's many reasons for that.
That's a long topic, uh, butyeah, good assessment sooner,
(31:25):
quicker, finding potentialdysfunctions in the body before
they present themselves as atumor, for example.
Right, it's so important.
So, really excited about thewellness program.
I have participated myself inthe wellness program, so I
encourage the listeners, theviewers, to give yourself that
(31:48):
gift, whether now, in the restof 2024 or coming in 2025, to
consider the Hope for CancerWellness, medical Wellness
Program.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay, and all that information, of course, is the
hopeforcancercom, that's thehope and the number for
cancercom.
Well, dr Tony, it's always apleasure talking to you.
You actually talk on my level,so I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Well, you know, I'm a simple guy from a small village
.
I have to understand myself aswell.
So we're on the same page,thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
All right, well, thank you so much for taking the
time to do this.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Blessings to you, Jim , and to the Healing Strong
family.
We love you and blessings.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
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