Join us for an intimate conversation with the dynamic artist, Andres Perez, AKA S.O.B.R.I.N.O. We journey through his life, uncovering how a third-grade poet grew into an artist who seamlessly merges Trap Music and Spanish music to create a sound that's uniquely his. Listen as he discusses standing out in the entertainment industry by finding your unique voice, avoiding the distractions of social media, and being unapologetically you.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to I Am Me Podcast.
I'm your host, liz Bachman, andon this podcast I want to
celebrate you for being you.
I'm super excited to sit downwith my guests each week and
talk about their journey, theirexperiences and where they came
from.
So, without further ado, let'sdive into this week's episode.
Hey everybody, welcome back toI Am Me Podcast.
(00:22):
Today I'm going to sit down andtalk with Andres Perez, aka
Sabrina.
He is a guy an actor, slashrapper, musician that I got to
work with about three or fourmonths ago on an acting project.
He actually played a murdererand I got to play his victim.
But yeah, we're going to sitdown and talk to him today about
(00:44):
his career and what he's doing,what he's up to and kind of how
he got into this.
So how you doing, andres?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I am doing phenomenal .
Thank you for having me on thispodcast.
I am super blessed to get totalk to you again.
It's great seeing you.
You look great, as always.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thank you, Thank you, Back at you.
Okay, so diving right in.
Where did all this kind ofstart for you, Like what was did
acting come first?
Did music come first?
And kind of like what peakedthat Did?
It come earlier in life, or isthis something you're 29?
We just talked about that.
(01:22):
So is this something that hascome up, you know, later in your
20s?
Just kind of, I don't know anyof your back stories.
I'm really curious to see whereall this kind of came from for
you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, so I started all the arts started in third
grade.
I started with poetry, actually, okay so that's a nice.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So poetry is a great segue into music.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So like I started doing poetryin third grade, I came from an
immigrant household.
Okay, and like in an immigranthousehold, it's like school
business and art isn't really acareer.
So like when I was like writing, I would just do it like on,
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like the, on the DL.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So you didn't even feel like you could share that
with your family.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Exactly, I just knew they wouldn't really understand.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So what's interesting me about that is I don't come
from an immigrant household butlike the same like the arts was
not something that was really,it was like a hobby but not a
career option, but I definitelyfelt comfortable sharing it with
my family.
So that's interesting that youfelt like you kind of had to
keep that on the down low.
(02:44):
So I did.
That is that's why I take itthat's not still happening, but
how long until you felt like youcould share that part of
yourself with your family.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Probably not until, like I was like an adult.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Like probably early 20s 1819.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So how so poetry in the third grade?
How is that going for you?
Like how I'm very curious about, was little Andres like hiding
away in his room writing poetryor like I don't know.
I think of my like version.
I don't know.
I feel like I'd be all likeangsty and the thing over the
eye or something, but I doubtthat was your experience.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So I thought growing up I would listen to like
Hispanic music.
So I grew up like listening tolike Hispanic music Joe Arroyo,
celia Cruz, chakira, mark,antony but then also at the same
time, like I was born inAtlanta and like I'm from here,
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so like the culture, there'salways been hip hop around me,
like I just couldn't escape,like I grew up with those sounds
.
So the mixture of like the pop,michael Jackson, and then like
the Hispanic music in the houseand then hip hop all on around
me in general, kind of shaped meinto like wanting to make music
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that kind of catered to one, toone, one genre, so kind of take
.
So essentially, like Sabrinamakes music that's like hip hop
with like Spanish.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's a really cool take on it.
So I like I always like whenpeople can take their background
and they can like they add thatto your art, because your art
is you, and when you reallybring yourself to your art.
I mean, I think that's whatmakes people stand out for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So music.
So when did you start makingthat shift from poetry to music?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Um, I would say the very first time I ever like, did
like a mixtape, was in ninthgrade.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Did you?
Okay, when you say a mixtape,were you actually like
performing, singing the music,or were you like you just like
put a mixtape together?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Like I like I got instrumentals on YouTube and I
recorded like lyrics, like onthe mic that you have on right
now, like with your littleheadphones, oh, okay, vocals
into a software and kind ofmixed it and that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I love it, though, like I mean, one thing about
today is like you can just dothat stuff.
You can, you know, piece it alltogether, what?
Okay, so it sounds like musiccame first before acting.
Is that okay?
I didn't know, I didn't know.
We had that in common.
Music can be for me first whenI was like 1516 and then I moved
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into acting later.
But this is not about me.
So when did when did actinglike start coming into the
picture?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I did modeling in college.
There was like a college groupI guess, and that's what like
kind of sparked kind of megetting booked for for like
print work, and then that led tome landing like commercial gigs
(06:26):
.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay like to act in hell yeah, okay, so that's
something I should havementioned at the beginning.
I didn't ask you that, butlooking at your Instagram and
your pretty face, I was going toask you if you're a model, also
for people who can't see Andre.
He has a very pretty face, buthe doesn't go around acting like
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it.
So you know that's a good thingthat actually makes you nice to
talk to Humility, humility.
So I'm so curious.
So you said there's a modelinggroup in college.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yes, so I went to Georgia State it was called
Panthers Allure, okay, and like.
The person that like led the orstarted the group, was a sign
model.
So he like basically taught allof us like how to walk, how to
like different poses, how tofeel comfortable in front of a
camera, how to work with otherpeople like that are in the
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shots to and how to talk to thephotographers and what to look
for.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's a cool experience I go.
Yeah, I love to like whenpeople, when they have something
that they're passionate aboutand then they turn around and
like, want to share it, likethat's something about I love
about Atlanta, I would say, isartists really tend to have, for
the most part, this attitude ofwanting to turn around and help
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somebody up the ladder, sothat's cool.
I did not have any modelinggroups Maybe I did at college,
but they weren't looking for me.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They're lost.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Acting.
You started getting commercialgigs.
Which when did that happen?
So you're 29 now.
I'm trying to get your timelinetogether.
So you're 29 now.
And when did that like themodeling to trans, like
transitioning into acting happen?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So that was when I got my first commercial gig.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Okay, what was that?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So it took me five years to graduate college.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Because I my sophomore year I went hard in
the paint and I lost my hopescholarship.
So like I had to retake like alot of the classes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That did not happen to me.
I was no judgments, nojudgments.
I changed my major like threetimes.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, so yeah, it took me five years to graduate.
I was about 22 23 when I firstgot like my first commercial gig
.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Rooms to go.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I'm going to go back and try and find your room to go
.
What were you doing?
What was your commercial?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I was kind of telling people about I, was like in a
house.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Like telling people to shop at Rooms2Go because Okay
, I feel like that's mostRooms2Go commercials.
Yeah, not just.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Rooms2Go like furniture commercials, like
there's someone standing thereand they're just like hey, hey,
like buy this, buy that.
That's really cool though.
That's super excitingexperience.
I love that for you.
What do you say right now?
Because I know I feel like alot of times artists are like
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actors are.
They wear many hats, and Ithink that's just also part of
acting.
Like acting is you also havethese other skills and then it
also can help you with roles.
So you know, you kind of havethis background of music
modeling and now you're alsoacting.
Do you feel like you leantowards anything in particular?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
In regards to like.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
What you're putting your energy or your time into,
or for me, I feel like there'sdifferent seasons with it, with
each like music, and acting forme is kind of what I go back and
forth between I it's a reallygood question, by the way, a
really good question.
(10:35):
Well, we only have so muchenergy, you know and in time,
within the day and when you'reup and coming in this industry,
you know you don't have a teamof people doing all this stuff
for you, like it's you.
So I'm always curious, likekind of what other people's
processes, cause I knew mine,you know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So I would say I think, because acting is.
I feel like there's a lot ofgatekeepers in acting.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Which I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't really
agree with.
I don't like it because I'veseen to where there's people
that are way more talented andmore qualified for a specific
role and they don't get itbecause the gatekeeper doesn't
like personally, like them asmuch, and I don't think that's
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fair.
Life isn't fair.
But, like, in regards to likeI'm just looking at it from an
artistic standpoint Like, if youwant the best product just for
art it's a gift to the world foreverybody, a timeless piece you
need to let all of like thehuman emotion out and do it just
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for the art.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And that's what I like.
That's so that like leads me tothink, or that leads me to
propel, to want, like that'swhat has led for me to propel,
to wanting to create my own shit.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, I think too that's I agree with you and I
think one of the hardest thingslike I've had to learn from an
acting standpoint is that it'slike a business and that part
can be really frustratingbecause it isn't something that
you can do on your own, like youhave to have other people where
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his music isn't so muchsomething that you can
necessarily do completely onyour own.
I still feel like there's help,but like you can, to an extent,
go and create your stuff onyour own and get it out there,
versus acting is very muchdependent on other people saying
yeah, your name, and also itdoesn't depend on talent all the
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time.
There are so many little thingsthat can keep you from getting
a role that it can be veryfrustrating and talent might get
you in the door, but it doesn'talways seal the deal.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, yeah, yeah, and I think well, that's why the
strike that's going on right now.
I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Because that shit needs to get resolved.
Yeah, it needs to be fair,because how things are going
right now like I don't see it assustainable.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I don't either.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It's like monopoly, it's like, I'll say, an
oligopoly.
There's only like a few peopleat the top or companies at the
top.
I feel like when you distribute, you know the power of just
like having four to like havinglike a bunch.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, Definitely like kind of share the wealth and I
think also I always like I havethis mindset that there's enough
room at the table, like somepeople have a very lack mindset
and I have always like aired onthe side of there's enough.
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I wouldn't say always, I wouldsay at times like I went through
my stuff with that but Idefinitely think like there is
enough room at the table forpeople to show up and be
performers and you know, I don'tknow, I and you don't have to
be, you know, a-list actor tohave success and enjoy this work
(14:41):
.
Okay, so I know I'm curiousabout this.
I feel like mental help is avery like challenging thing,
especially for artists.
We use our art to at least I do, I'll speak for myself to help,
like cope with a lot of thingsin life.
But I also am curious about,for me, I found, when art
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started becoming something I waspursuing as a career, I had to
be careful about how I use myart to help me cope with my
mental health.
Have you found, like thatyou're still able to use your
art to help you cope with yourmental health, or have you
started trying to like findother avenues of dealing with
that?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I would start with creating, so I used to, only so
going to the music thing.
Back to the music thing.
When I created music, back thenI would use it to vent, so like
I would always have to be likein a negative space to write,
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and then, so like it really,when I started like digging deep
into my psyche, I was like likedude, it's like a double-edged
sword for me.
Okay, my thoughts are going tobe all over the fucking place.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, you're fine, go for it.
No, we're here to listen to you, so go for it.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So like I use it as therapy because I was going
through.
When I write I feel just aheavy emotion of just negativity
, but I need to just like purgebut like in doing so sometimes I
feel like you can just live inthat Close to just like vomiting
it and cleaning it up.
(16:29):
You're like sleeping on yourvomit.
So then that's like where to melike being like in a mental
state where it's not like a lowvibration and it's like easy for
me to stay in there.
Sometimes in my psyche I'm likedamn, like I can only make good
shit when I'm like in a lowvibration.
(16:50):
So now I'm like sacrificing,like being in a low vibration to
make good art, but then I likestart walking around with a
cloud over me internally.
Obviously no one knows Like I'm, like I'm good at hiding shit.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, apparent confidence, we look like we're
good.
But and I think a lot ofartists struggle with that
because I mean, if you reallythink about music or even acting
, even like comedy, a lot ofcomedy is around jokes at
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somebody else's expense or atyour own expense, at your own
self deprecation.
So, and music I mean most musicis like I'm going through a
breakup and dealing with thatand I haven't been listening to
music because I'm like everysong is about like love or
heartbreak, or I'm like justlistening to like instrumentals
and jazz.
I'm like, you know, like isthere anything that doesn't talk
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about love, which that's notlike that's important?
But I think a lot of musiccomes from a place of pain and
also trying to deal with thepain that comes along with the
human experience.
I think all art is that.
To an extent, it's an outletwhen you start kind of like
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figuring out that shift of howdo I make good art but still
keep myself in a healthy placementally, because and I'm not
saying I have that questionsolved, but, like you know, that
is ultimately the goal, becausethere's so much joy in creating
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the art that you create.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That's true, and it's also found on it.
It's like that's a good way,that that's a great way to look
at it, because it a lot like I.
Looking at it that way, I think, makes it sustainable.
Because if you're only able tocreate art when you, when you
feel a certain type of way, whatabout when that feeling goes
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away?
Like, how are you going tocontinue making art?
Do you know what I'm saying.
And then that's like going backto the human experience.
Now you're, you're, you're nottapping into all of who you are.
It's only this side of who youare.
It's opposed to, like here hereright here.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I also feel like I've started seeing, like, along
that line, artists start makingmusic around like positive
experiences more, like I feellike I'm seeing that more, which
I like, because it's like OK, Idon't always have to talk about
like how much I'm struggling.
And also it's like OK, can Isit down and write about music
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when, when things are good, whenI'm having positive life
experiences you know, becauseit's not always rainy and I
definitely agree with you thatthat mindset is such a trap and
I definitely fall into it of Ineed to step into this negative
space to make good art.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Like, as far as like my acting, I feel like I am.
I enjoy, for some weird reason,roles because I just started
getting into like film andtheatrical acting commercials
right, I don't know if Imentioned that to you, but like
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starting commercials and now I'mlike starting starting to get
into film and theatrical.
The roles that I really enjoyare the villain roles.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I love it, yeah, and I feel like it's like therapy,
because I'm walking around likeI'm all like, like I'm like
happy, so then, like when I havean opportunity to just like act
in as a villain, it just feelstherapeutic.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I agree with you.
I like doing stuff too, likethat I love playing stuff very
opposite of me.
And I think it's because youget to play your shadow self,
like you get the things that youwalk around in society and
you're like I'm a nice person,like I'm not going to do that,
I'm going to be respectful topeople.
You get to completely let goand do all those things Right
and you're like I get to notcare and be an asshole.
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And you know it doesn't evenhave to be an extreme villain,
it can just be someone that getsto be a bitch Like I'm, like I
get to be a bitch.
I'm never gonna be a bitch.
So I think I absolutely agree.
It's so fun and I had an actingteacher one time that was like
you know, a healthy persondoesn't want to be a murderer,
but it sure as shit is fun toplay somebody that's a murderer.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah.
It doesn't make us crazy.
It's just like you like that'sthe fun part of acting Like you
get to like give into all thethings that are like I can't do
this.
It's a little crazy, just alittle crazy A little bit and I
think all like actors, artists,any performing artists, I'm like
there's a little bit of youknow, insanity to want to get up
in front of people and just belike oh, I think Violet Davis
(22:16):
said just like, unzip your skinand like, show your.
You know the vulnerability ofyou to the world.
What are you brought up lowvibes, but I'm curious, like
what are some things you do toget yourself back to that high
vibrational energy?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Um, first things first.
I like working out.
I like going to the gym ormoving.
It doesn't have to be at thegym, moving outside and getting
my blood flow, getting oxygen tomy brain.
There's more oxygen anywhere inyour body.
You heal.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So, uh, I would say Going to the gym, eating healthy
and drinking water, that islike so underrated.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I know that those are like such basic things
, but like no, I'm not.
I completely agree with you,not judging at all, I'm like
they are.
So look at you, he's gettinghis water right now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I like to show that it's water, but in here it's
like a special.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's actually vodka.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm going to drink my water too.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I'm going to drink my water too.
Everybody's drinking water.
Drink your water, everybody.
Take a water break.
No, I agree, like, so I thinkI've always been like with
movement, just like I have to do, like the most extreme thing,
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and maybe it's me maturing in mylate twenties, I don't know.
But now I'm like just walking,I love weight training, I like
doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu andstuff like that, but I'm like,
dude, just go another good walk.
Like the way that changes mementally is just mind blowing.
And then there's so manystudies, I feel like you know,
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with diet, culture and stuff.
This is so off topic but I'menjoying talking to you so I'm
going for it.
But I feel like with diet,culture and stuff, we have been
fed this thing of exercise andfood for losing weight or
looking a certain way, which isfine, but that's not the main
point of it.
That's like the secondary,that's like the after effect,
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Like you know what, that's likethe secondary thing from it,
Like at the root of it.
They've talked about so muchhow food is just connected to
mental health.
Now there's so many studiesaround food and what we're
eating and mental health, andthen movement, like we are a
society, I mean even a lot ofparts of the world like there's
just not enough movement anymore.
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So I love it.
I love that it was basic,because there are three things
that are just so simple but makereally big differences.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, yes.
And I would say another thingwhich I'm like I don't do, but I
, but when I, when I haveconsistently done it, meditating
dude, even bro, even if it'sjust two to five minutes, the
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thing that those two to fiveminutes does for the rest of
your 23 hours and 55 minutes ofyour day is incredible and it's
very.
I mean, if you like, say it outloud meditate for two to five
minutes, 23 hours of your day isgoing to be different, on a
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better, on a positive note.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's so easy that people don't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, well, the other thing is, I think we what I
talked to you earlier about wevery much live in this like idea
that we have to do so much, butconsistency and little bits of
consistency.
They had to just have suchlasting impacts.
And I am just now starting tolike piece that together for
myself, because I've always beenthe person it's like I need to
do so much, or I'll do fourhours on Sunday and when you
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like think about it, it's likeI'm not going to sit down and
meditate for four hours.
Do you know what type ofmeditation do you like?
Guided mantra, breathwork,meditation like what's your?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
breathwork.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So I started off with guided, but I but one of my
friends kind of introducedbreathwork to me and I mean it's
it's to each their own, to eachtheir own, but the breathwork
for me, it opens chakras andflow like in spaces where energy
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is kept.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, I.
So I recently started seguefrom guided to breathwork, doing
more breathwork and doing morelike meditating on my own, like
not even putting music on.
I've been doing a lot ofmeditating like just in nature
and using like kind of nature asmy guide.
But that's funny.
You mentioned chakras because Ijust started doing I've been
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doing like some guidedmeditation to like kind of open
chakras and stuff like that.
I've been like getting intothat.
I know some people be thinkingthat we're hippies but I got you
.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Let me ask you a question what got you, what,
what?
What kind of propelled you toexplore that?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Um, so it's things that I've been curious about,
for sure.
And then my ex she is very muchinvolved in spirituality and
stuff and um, it just kind ofthere were things I got curious
about and I think a lot for me.
I was trying to wow, youflipped the interview.
I just realized that, um, I, I,for me, was like trying to put
(27:54):
on how spirituality worked forher and I realized, okay, I need
to figure this out for myself.
Like I have to figure out howthis looks for me and then my
faith in God is really importantto me, so kind of figuring out
how my faith and my spiritualityand all that kind of ties
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together.
And I do believe in energiesand high vibrations and low
vibrations and very much new toit, like all of that.
Um, I've been meditating offand on, like doing guided
meditations for a few years nowbut, I think it's not like.
I want to know more and I wantto know genuinely how to feel
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secure and rooted in myself.
So let's flip it back to you,spotlight.
Um what about you?
Like how is I love this, I lovethat I was completely said way
to way, or like I don't evenknow if segway is the right way,
but like, not even like artistconversation, but that's great,
because that's the point of this.
(28:59):
I just want to open up for you.
Um, what about you?
How did like kind ofspirituality and you know
getting into chakras andmeditation, like how did that
start coming up Going?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
about for you.
So I was just always, I'malways devil's advocate in every
conversation.
I feel like, just because Ilike, I like listening to
different perspectives and likethrowing different perspectives
out there, just to like, kind of, you know, put, add some
different color to the water.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I feel like you just drop a bomb and you're like I
actually hate chakra, like cool.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I'm just like I've always.
Okay, I'll answer your question.
I've always been curious.
I'm just like curious humanbeing.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm so and I know from like when I was younger.
Like I've always just beengifted with intuition and and
and, just and just frequencies.
I don't, I don't know.
I grew up Catholic.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, no, I absolutely think that there are
people who tune into that moreum than other people, and I
think people can learn to tuneinto that.
I don't think it's, but Idefinitely think I think people
have natural gifts and I thinkthat's definitely a gift that
some people have, that they justpick up on that stuff easier.
And I also think like different, like childhood experiences and
(30:30):
stuff like that can make youmore aware of reading people and
being very intuitive aboutpeople, and then that starts
transitioning into like energiesand stuff like that.
So that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
No, it definitely does.
It definitely makes sensebecause I know um.
I think between seven or eightyears old, your third eye starts
closing.
That's like an order.
That's because, so when you'reyounger, like a lot of other
dimensions, talk like you'revery sensitive and susceptible
(31:06):
to other dimensions of the world.
So that's where you see likekids talking to like ghosts.
Let me just give you an exampleright, yeah.
Or, like they, like, they like,start talking about things that
, like they, they're too youngto even know about.
Like that, this happened.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Right Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, they just know.
So when you start getting older, that third eye closes, because
in that realm there's a lot ofgood and bad energies that third
eye closes in order to protectthe individual.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, you saying how you know your individuals
experiences shape.
I guess the gift or dependingon what, they live through.
Yeah, definitely believe them.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, for sure, I think too like kids, like from
like nannying and stuff.
I'm just like people.
We so adults, so underestimatechildren.
I like kids are just theirlittle sponges, but they're also
little teachers.
Okay, bringing it back to likeacting, performing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I know we went all around the bush, but I still
loved it.
It was great.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
You're fun to talk.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I appreciate it back at you.
Um, how do you feel like youstand out in the industry?
Do you feel like you stand out,you feel like you blend in?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
In regards to my talent or regards to who I are.
Regards to me.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Both.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I think I stand out as myself more to be, honest
with you.
I don't think people are likeme.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, nobody is.
Nobody will do anything the waythat you do it.
So, whether that's acting,whether it's the same role and
they have three people that lookthe same, nobody's gonna
perform it.
If they're doing it genuinely,through their lens, their
perspective, their prep work, ifyou're trying to do that thing
where you're like I'm trying toget the casting director or the
(33:07):
director what I think they want,then yeah, y'all might have
similar performances.
But if you really show up anddo it through your lens and
through your experiences,nobody's gonna do it like you.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
That's powerful.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I would say in the same thing with music.
I think when you're trying tobe somebody else, then yeah, you
can be like okay, yeah, youknow things come across similar,
but when you're really usingyour voice, like Andres or Liz,
everybody's got a story.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
There's no comment system, just you.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, go ahead.
I didn't mean to cut you off,but I just love what you said.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You know, no for sure , I think in the entertainment
industry, I think people arelike not curious, Like what
you're doing is not, like Idon't think it's normal because
I feel like you're coming from agenuine standpoint not to get
like clout, Like you think youwould do this, like how you're
doing it right now, Like youdon't, you do it because you
(34:03):
enjoy it.
You like talking to people, youenjoy getting different
perspectives and listening topeople and but curiously,
genuinely listening to people,not just like saying, like
asking questions and then justlike yeah.
Yeah, yeah, A lot of people inthe entertainment industry.
They're used to.
They're not curious.
(34:24):
I don't think they're.
I think it's all me, me, me, asopposed to trying to connect
with people at a deeper level,and I blame social media for
that.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, social media is definitely yeah, it's.
I notice I'll take breaks fromsocials and I'll notice a
dramatic increase in my mentalhealth, I swear.
But I will say I.
It took me a while to get hereand it's something that is
(35:03):
genuinely happening recently.
I would say for me, probablylike the reason I didn't start
this podcast sooner is because Ihad that approach that I was
like okay, how can I grow it?
I want people, like, of courseI want people to listen to it.
Of course I want.
But I really, as I've enteredinto like arts, podcasts, acting
(35:25):
music, my mindset very much wasabout myself and people.
One people don't care.
People don't care who you are,you know.
People don't care who I am,they don't care.
They want to know how, likethis will add value to their
life.
But when I've really startedtrying to shift my art to it's
(35:45):
not about me and I have alwayssaid I want to help people and
I'm like how can my art helppeople?
And if it only reaches oneperson and it helps them, then
it's worth it and genuinelygetting that in my heart and
soul.
And that is something I'm stillworking on and I still have my
(36:08):
ego where I'm like yeah, I hopethis blows up.
I hope that people be listeningto this.
I hope my podcast pays my billsyou know, that's still there.
But also having the gratitudeand like I get to sit down and
talk to you today and Igenuinely want to sit down and
talk to you today, you know.
I feel that yeah, I hope you do.
I really hope everybody whosits down and talks to me feels
(36:31):
like I'm not just like, okay,let's do this, like I'm, like I
genuinely want to sit down andtalk to these people and whoever
I'm talking to.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, yeah, obviously like everything.
It's like making money right,like you want to make money for
your family.
You want to make money to helpother people.
You want to make money totravel and have entertaining
life.
You know what I'm saying.
Like there's, it's like workingout, like you said.
It's like there's like you look.
(36:59):
The byproduct of eating right,having your mental is you look
great.
Also, like physically Right,where you're like that's not
like at the forefront, eventhough it's still there, though
it might be like priority.
Two or three, but it's not likeone, but it's still a priority
right.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, I mean, we all got bills and I would like some
financial freedom in my life.
So I'm not going to say that Idon't want to make some money.
You know, like I've alwaysthought like money shows what is
really at the root of you.
So the more of it you have,whatever is at the root of you,
(37:40):
like whoever you truly are, isgoing to come through.
So if you're a very egotisticalperson who doesn't care about
people, selfish, the more moneyyou have, the more power you
have, that's going to comethrough more.
But you also see people with alot of money who are very
compassionate and very givingand very helpful and I think
it's just it's going to takewhatever is at the root of you
(38:03):
and the more money you have, themore that magnifying glass is
going to expand.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Honey, you know, unpopular opinion I think.
I think majority of people thatdo have a lot of money are
compassionate people.
I think we get like in themedia and like we look at
someone that's like successfuland we portray them to be the
complete opposite of what themajority are.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well, yeah, and we also see that on social media.
It's really easy when, even ifyou don't comment or anything
like that, it's that's like thatenvy, that ego, that jealousy.
It's really easy to seesomebody on social media who's
doing well and your mediathought in your head isn't hell
yeah, like look good for them.
It's like damn, I want, I wantwhat they have.
You know, or they're probablythis or you know, you
(38:56):
immediately have some type ofnegative thought About that.
That's something else I've beentrying to work on is like
having like that Hell yeah, goodfor you, my turn's coming, you
know mindset instead of that'snot easy, but I would definitely
agree with you that, likesocial media really, and Media
alone, we I mean we lovefocusing on the negative.
(39:17):
That's what media wants tofocus on.
There's just as many feel-goodand positive stories out there
as there are negative, but weonly have to say negative.
That would be okay.
I'm curious.
I have two questions kind ofclosing, but I love this.
I love we talked about, I lovehow like it went all over the
place.
It's so fun and I think there'sso much useful stuff in here.
But with acting and music, whatwith acting, what would be like
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your dream role.
Like I know you said, thevillain thing.
Is that like right now, like beplaying like a serial killer,
that be like your thing, or isit something else?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I I would love, I would have you seen the movie
taken.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I would love to be the villain and taken Like
there's something about like thegrunge and like the.
It's like such a strong, likethe content is so strong and and
(40:23):
grunge and gritty and tabooLook at it if you really think
about it.
So being being the bad guy inthere just seems Like a very
Interesting role to take andit's attractive to me to be that
(40:44):
role, you know what's no I.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
So I honestly find what I've found because I've
been acting for about Geez, Iwanted to say five years, I
think it's like six what I'vefound people who are like very
genuine, very kind, verycompassionate, like that's
really who they are.
I feel like they do the best atplaying like these really
grungy villain, just likeheinous kind of characters.
(41:10):
Yeah, I don't know entirelylike what that is, but it's very
bizarre.
Like sometimes, like the nicestpeople I have met is like you
call action.
I mean even even you.
You're like so sweet on set,we're vibing, and then all of a
sudden they're like action.
You're like I mean, but I guessthat's just being an actor too
(41:31):
like I jumped into being avictim real quick, but you know,
like you like wait for it, likewhich I love to the energy went
straight into murdering me andHaley, like so you didn't, he
didn't kill us, guys, don'tworry, it was.
(41:51):
It was a different character,we survived, but uh, no, that's
so fun.
I love that.
I can see it too.
What about music?
Like kind of what are yourgoals?
What's up coming with that?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, dude, so with music um, I teamed up with One
of my best friends that went to.
He went to school.
He went to college with me.
So I went to Georgia State, Igot my degree and then I went to
SAE school for Audioengineering.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Oh, okay cool, so a friend that I made at the
university.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I teamed up with him and we've been working on music
for the past two or three monthsfun and man, we just he's just
been coming over and we've justbeen putting in work.
So, yeah, he just came over.
He's been coming over for thelast two to three months.
We've been like working on twoprojects very freaking excited
about.
(42:48):
It's a hint of like the AtlantaTrap that comes with Atlanta
and then a mixture of like mysound, which is very I would
like to say it's like Drake inSpanish.
Okay, that's cool.
Yeah, so that's super exciting.
So we have like the Atlanta likethe Atlanta hip hop trap, and
(43:12):
then we have the hispanic Me andwe just kind of mesh our sounds
together.
So I don't think there's reallyanything like it out.
That's super fun.
So it's very fun and we meshvery well together.
He's Shout out to K-Dub he's.
He's really talented individualso I'm blessed that you know
gotta put him in front of me.
(43:33):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I feel like um actors are At least getting to work on
some other artistic pursuitsright now, because I feel like
I've talked to a few peoplewho's like I'm doing this, I'm
doing this, and they're reallyworking on other avenues and
areas right now, which is Hardbecause we also like acting and,
like you know, we want to getback to that.
(43:57):
But I also think it's anexciting, in a way, that we have
these other things that we'regetting to work on right and
also, and also like, somethingthat's like super cool about
working with, with K-Dub is thatit's a lot of work, it's a.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
It's a Avagant American dude and I'm a Hispanic
dude, so like kind of mergingthe two cultures together,
there's so much there's like somuch division in the world and,
yeah, I love I, I see it as anopportunity to bring multiple
cultures together and, and youknow, yeah start the, the
(44:38):
transition on being Togetheragain, the together.
So it's like something I amreally striving to Get done
together, different cultures.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I Definitely think that's a great goal because I
think people think there's thereis division in the world, but I
think we are.
We see a lot more of thatversus people who are trying to
close that division, like youand K-Dub.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Um, are y'all playing out at all, or do you have a
date like when this will becoming out, like where people
can see it at?
I can link it maybe.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I haven't set the date.
It's gonna be before before2023 ends.
There's gonna be, there's gonnabe, a lot of content.
We have a shit dude, we have ashit ton of content.
But I, I'm the type of personthat I want, I want, I want to
do it right.
So, like, yeah, fucking longass catalog.
So I'm not working behind, so I.
(45:38):
So it's like we're to the pointwhere 2024 is already finished.
I got so much Song song.
We've already like done.
We're like we're like working.
We're like on the dl, likewe're working, like in silent,
okay, you like working, likewell.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Frank Ocean.
Do you listen to him?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
I love Frank Ocean.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Okay, he's got a quote.
So I actually have it like onmy vision board and it's like
work hard in silence.
Let success be your noise.
Hmm.
So I love, like what you said,that y'all are like working,
working, working on the dl.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
That's cool.
That's really my.
Get that quote tatted on me,man.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Next time I see you.
Just no, that's super exciting.
I'm really happy where I willtag all of Andres's stuff on my
instagram.
I'm me pod 21 when I post thison insult.
So if y'all are interested inthis music or anything like that
or we can't really promoteupcoming film projects right now
(46:38):
Because of the strike, but ifyou want to follow this guy, see
what he's up to, then I willabsolutely post that.
Thank you, andres, so much.
Today I had like such a funtime talking to you.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Likewise, liz.
Thank you for having me.
You, I always cut you off.
No, it's good, it's good.
I'm just saying you're amazing,appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Thank you.
Is there anything you want toshare in closing?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
um, yeah, just be yourself, stress yourself, um Be
close to god and Keep moving,because god he can't.
He can't Drive a car in park,but he can help steer it and
drive.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh, dang, okay, that's a quote.
Somebody's gonna get thattatted on them, all right.
Thank you everybody forlistening.
I hope people got something outof this.
If you could rate and reviewthe podcast with all the
instagram, it just helps me dowhat I'm doing, and thank you so
much, andres.
I had a great time talking toyou, thank you.
Welcome to I Am Me Podcast.
I'm your host, liz Bachman, andon this podcast I want to
celebrate you for being you.
I'm super excited to sit downwith my guests each week and
talk about their journey, theirexperiences and where they came
from.
So, without further ado, let'sdive into this week's episode.
Hey everybody, welcome back toI Am Me Podcast.
(00:22):
Today I'm going to sit down andtalk with Andres Perez, aka
Sabrina.
He is a guy an actor, slashrapper, musician that I got to
work with about three or fourmonths ago on an acting project.
He actually played a murdererand I got to play his victim.
But yeah, we're going to sitdown and talk to him today about
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his career and what he's doing,what he's up to and kind of how
he got into this.
So how you doing, andres?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I am doing phenomenal .
Thank you for having me on thispodcast.
I am super blessed to get totalk to you again.
It's great seeing you.
You look great, as always.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thank you, Thank you, Back at you.
Okay, so diving right in.
Where did all this kind ofstart for you, Like what was did
acting come first?
Did music come first?
And kind of like what peakedthat Did?
It come earlier in life, or isthis something you're 29?
We just talked about that.
(01:22):
So is this something that hascome up, you know, later in your
20s?
Just kind of, I don't know anyof your back stories.
I'm really curious to see whereall this kind of came from for
you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, so I started all the arts started in third
grade.
I started with poetry, actually, okay so that's a nice.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
So poetry is a great segue into music.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So like I started doing poetryin third grade, I came from an
immigrant household.
Okay, and like in an immigranthousehold, it's like school
business and art isn't really acareer.
So like when I was like writing, I would just do it like on,
(02:14):
like the, on the DL.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So you didn't even feel like you could share that
with your family.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Exactly, I just knew they wouldn't really understand.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So what's interesting me about that is I don't come
from an immigrant household butlike the same like the arts was
not something that was really,it was like a hobby but not a
career option, but I definitelyfelt comfortable sharing it with
my family.
So that's interesting that youfelt like you kind of had to
keep that on the down low.
(02:44):
So I did.
That is that's why I take itthat's not still happening, but
how long until you felt like youcould share that part of
yourself with your family.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Probably not until, like I was like an adult.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Like probably early 20s 1819.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So how so poetry in the third grade?
How is that going for you?
Like how I'm very curious about, was little Andres like hiding
away in his room writing poetryor like I don't know.
I think of my like version.
I don't know.
I feel like I'd be all likeangsty and the thing over the
eye or something, but I doubtthat was your experience.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So I thought growing up I would listen to like
Hispanic music.
So I grew up like listening tolike Hispanic music Joe Arroyo,
celia Cruz, chakira, mark,antony but then also at the same
time, like I was born inAtlanta and like I'm from here,
(03:44):
so like the culture, there'salways been hip hop around me,
like I just couldn't escape,like I grew up with those sounds
.
So the mixture of like the pop,michael Jackson, and then like
the Hispanic music in the houseand then hip hop all on around
me in general, kind of shaped meinto like wanting to make music
(04:10):
that kind of catered to one, toone, one genre, so kind of take
.
So essentially, like Sabrinamakes music that's like hip hop
with like Spanish.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's a really cool take on it.
So I like I always like whenpeople can take their background
and they can like they add thatto your art, because your art
is you, and when you reallybring yourself to your art.
I mean, I think that's whatmakes people stand out for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So music.
So when did you start makingthat shift from poetry to music?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Um, I would say the very first time I ever like, did
like a mixtape, was in ninthgrade.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Did you?
Okay, when you say a mixtape,were you actually like
performing, singing the music,or were you like you just like
put a mixtape together?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Like I like I got instrumentals on YouTube and I
recorded like lyrics, like onthe mic that you have on right
now, like with your littleheadphones, oh, okay, vocals
into a software and kind ofmixed it and that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I love it, though, like I mean, one thing about
today is like you can just dothat stuff.
You can, you know, piece it alltogether, what?
Okay, so it sounds like musiccame first before acting.
Is that okay?
I didn't know, I didn't know.
We had that in common.
Music can be for me first whenI was like 1516 and then I moved
(05:55):
into acting later.
But this is not about me.
So when did when did actinglike start coming into the
picture?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I did modeling in college.
There was like a college groupI guess, and that's what like
kind of sparked kind of megetting booked for for like
print work, and then that led tome landing like commercial gigs
(06:26):
.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay like to act in hell yeah, okay, so that's
something I should havementioned at the beginning.
I didn't ask you that, butlooking at your Instagram and
your pretty face, I was going toask you if you're a model, also
for people who can't see Andre.
He has a very pretty face, buthe doesn't go around acting like
(06:48):
it.
So you know that's a good thingthat actually makes you nice to
talk to Humility, humility.
So I'm so curious.
So you said there's a modelinggroup in college.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yes, so I went to Georgia State it was called
Panthers Allure, okay, and like.
The person that like led the orstarted the group, was a sign
model.
So he like basically taught allof us like how to walk, how to
like different poses, how tofeel comfortable in front of a
camera, how to work with otherpeople like that are in the
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shots to and how to talk to thephotographers and what to look
for.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's a cool experience I go.
Yeah, I love to like whenpeople, when they have something
that they're passionate aboutand then they turn around and
like, want to share it, likethat's something about I love
about Atlanta, I would say, isartists really tend to have, for
the most part, this attitude ofwanting to turn around and help
(07:53):
somebody up the ladder, sothat's cool.
I did not have any modelinggroups Maybe I did at college,
but they weren't looking for me.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They're lost.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Acting.
You started getting commercialgigs.
Which when did that happen?
So you're 29 now.
I'm trying to get your timelinetogether.
So you're 29 now.
And when did that like themodeling to trans, like
transitioning into acting happen?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So that was when I got my first commercial gig.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Okay, what was that?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So it took me five years to graduate college.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Because I my sophomore year I went hard in
the paint and I lost my hopescholarship.
So like I had to retake like alot of the classes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That did not happen to me.
I was no judgments, nojudgments.
I changed my major like threetimes.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, so yeah, it took me five years to graduate.
I was about 22 23 when I firstgot like my first commercial gig
.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Rooms to go.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I'm going to go back and try and find your room to go
.
What were you doing?
What was your commercial?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I was kind of telling people about I, was like in a
house.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Like telling people to shop at Rooms2Go because Okay
, I feel like that's mostRooms2Go commercials.
Yeah, not just.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Rooms2Go like furniture commercials, like
there's someone standing thereand they're just like hey, hey,
like buy this, buy that.
That's really cool though.
That's super excitingexperience.
I love that for you.
What do you say right now?
Because I know I feel like alot of times artists are like
(09:50):
actors are.
They wear many hats, and Ithink that's just also part of
acting.
Like acting is you also havethese other skills and then it
also can help you with roles.
So you know, you kind of havethis background of music
modeling and now you're alsoacting.
Do you feel like you leantowards anything in particular?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
In regards to like.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
What you're putting your energy or your time into,
or for me, I feel like there'sdifferent seasons with it, with
each like music, and acting forme is kind of what I go back and
forth between I it's a reallygood question, by the way, a
really good question.
(10:35):
Well, we only have so muchenergy, you know and in time,
within the day and when you'reup and coming in this industry,
you know you don't have a teamof people doing all this stuff
for you, like it's you.
So I'm always curious, likekind of what other people's
processes, cause I knew mine,you know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So I would say I think, because acting is.
I feel like there's a lot ofgatekeepers in acting.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Which I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't really
agree with.
I don't like it because I'veseen to where there's people
that are way more talented andmore qualified for a specific
role and they don't get itbecause the gatekeeper doesn't
like personally, like them asmuch, and I don't think that's
(11:30):
fair.
Life isn't fair.
But, like, in regards to likeI'm just looking at it from an
artistic standpoint Like, if youwant the best product just for
art it's a gift to the world foreverybody, a timeless piece you
need to let all of like thehuman emotion out and do it just
(11:52):
for the art.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And that's what I like.
That's so that like leads me tothink, or that leads me to
propel, to want, like that'swhat has led for me to propel,
to wanting to create my own shit.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, I think too that's I agree with you and I
think one of the hardest thingslike I've had to learn from an
acting standpoint is that it'slike a business and that part
can be really frustratingbecause it isn't something that
you can do on your own, like youhave to have other people where
(12:30):
his music isn't so muchsomething that you can
necessarily do completely onyour own.
I still feel like there's help,but like you can, to an extent,
go and create your stuff onyour own and get it out there,
versus acting is very muchdependent on other people saying
yeah, your name, and also itdoesn't depend on talent all the
(12:54):
time.
There are so many little thingsthat can keep you from getting
a role that it can be veryfrustrating and talent might get
you in the door, but it doesn'talways seal the deal.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, yeah, yeah, and I think well, that's why the
strike that's going on right now.
I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Because that shit needs to get resolved.
Yeah, it needs to be fair,because how things are going
right now like I don't see it assustainable.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I don't either.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It's like monopoly, it's like, I'll say, an
oligopoly.
There's only like a few peopleat the top or companies at the
top.
I feel like when you distribute, you know the power of just
like having four to like havinglike a bunch.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, Definitely like kind of share the wealth and I
think also I always like I havethis mindset that there's enough
room at the table, like somepeople have a very lack mindset
and I have always like aired onthe side of there's enough.
(14:14):
I wouldn't say always, I wouldsay at times like I went through
my stuff with that but Idefinitely think like there is
enough room at the table forpeople to show up and be
performers and you know, I don'tknow, I and you don't have to
be, you know, a-list actor tohave success and enjoy this work
(14:41):
.
Okay, so I know I'm curiousabout this.
I feel like mental help is avery like challenging thing,
especially for artists.
We use our art to at least I do, I'll speak for myself to help,
like cope with a lot of thingsin life.
But I also am curious about,for me, I found, when art
(15:04):
started becoming something I waspursuing as a career, I had to
be careful about how I use myart to help me cope with my
mental health.
Have you found, like thatyou're still able to use your
art to help you cope with yourmental health, or have you
started trying to like findother avenues of dealing with
that?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I would start with creating, so I used to, only so
going to the music thing.
Back to the music thing.
When I created music, back thenI would use it to vent, so like
I would always have to be likein a negative space to write,
(15:45):
and then, so like it really,when I started like digging deep
into my psyche, I was like likedude, it's like a double-edged
sword for me.
Okay, my thoughts are going tobe all over the fucking place.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, you're fine, go for it.
No, we're here to listen to you, so go for it.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So like I use it as therapy because I was going
through.
When I write I feel just aheavy emotion of just negativity
, but I need to just like purgebut like in doing so sometimes I
feel like you can just live inthat Close to just like vomiting
it and cleaning it up.
(16:29):
You're like sleeping on yourvomit.
So then that's like where to melike being like in a mental
state where it's not like a lowvibration and it's like easy for
me to stay in there.
Sometimes in my psyche I'm likedamn, like I can only make good
shit when I'm like in a lowvibration.
(16:50):
So now I'm like sacrificing,like being in a low vibration to
make good art, but then I likestart walking around with a
cloud over me internally.
Obviously no one knows Like I'm, like I'm good at hiding shit.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, apparent confidence, we look like we're
good.
But and I think a lot ofartists struggle with that
because I mean, if you reallythink about music or even acting
, even like comedy, a lot ofcomedy is around jokes at
(17:31):
somebody else's expense or atyour own expense, at your own
self deprecation.
So, and music I mean most musicis like I'm going through a
breakup and dealing with thatand I haven't been listening to
music because I'm like everysong is about like love or
heartbreak, or I'm like justlistening to like instrumentals
and jazz.
I'm like, you know, like isthere anything that doesn't talk
(17:55):
about love, which that's notlike that's important?
But I think a lot of musiccomes from a place of pain and
also trying to deal with thepain that comes along with the
human experience.
I think all art is that.
To an extent, it's an outletwhen you start kind of like
(18:19):
figuring out that shift of howdo I make good art but still
keep myself in a healthy placementally, because and I'm not
saying I have that questionsolved, but, like you know, that
is ultimately the goal, becausethere's so much joy in creating
(18:40):
the art that you create.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That's true, and it's also found on it.
It's like that's a good way,that that's a great way to look
at it, because it a lot like I.
Looking at it that way, I think, makes it sustainable.
Because if you're only able tocreate art when you, when you
feel a certain type of way, whatabout when that feeling goes
(19:09):
away?
Like, how are you going tocontinue making art?
Do you know what I'm saying.
And then that's like going backto the human experience.
Now you're, you're, you're nottapping into all of who you are.
It's only this side of who youare.
It's opposed to, like here hereright here.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I also feel like I've started seeing, like, along
that line, artists start makingmusic around like positive
experiences more, like I feellike I'm seeing that more, which
I like, because it's like OK, Idon't always have to talk about
like how much I'm struggling.
And also it's like OK, can Isit down and write about music
(19:54):
when, when things are good, whenI'm having positive life
experiences you know, becauseit's not always rainy and I
definitely agree with you thatthat mindset is such a trap and
I definitely fall into it of Ineed to step into this negative
space to make good art.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Like, as far as like my acting, I feel like I am.
I enjoy, for some weird reason,roles because I just started
getting into like film andtheatrical acting commercials
right, I don't know if Imentioned that to you, but like
(20:35):
starting commercials and now I'mlike starting starting to get
into film and theatrical.
The roles that I really enjoyare the villain roles.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I love it, yeah, and I feel like it's like therapy,
because I'm walking around likeI'm all like, like I'm like
happy, so then, like when I havean opportunity to just like act
in as a villain, it just feelstherapeutic.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I agree with you.
I like doing stuff too, likethat I love playing stuff very
opposite of me.
And I think it's because youget to play your shadow self,
like you get the things that youwalk around in society and
you're like I'm a nice person,like I'm not going to do that,
I'm going to be respectful topeople.
You get to completely let goand do all those things Right
and you're like I get to notcare and be an asshole.
(21:28):
And you know it doesn't evenhave to be an extreme villain,
it can just be someone that getsto be a bitch Like I'm, like I
get to be a bitch.
I'm never gonna be a bitch.
So I think I absolutely agree.
It's so fun and I had an actingteacher one time that was like
you know, a healthy persondoesn't want to be a murderer,
but it sure as shit is fun toplay somebody that's a murderer.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah.
It doesn't make us crazy.
It's just like you like that'sthe fun part of acting Like you
get to like give into all thethings that are like I can't do
this.
It's a little crazy, just alittle crazy A little bit and I
think all like actors, artists,any performing artists, I'm like
there's a little bit of youknow, insanity to want to get up
in front of people and just belike oh, I think Violet Davis
(22:16):
said just like, unzip your skinand like, show your.
You know the vulnerability ofyou to the world.
What are you brought up lowvibes, but I'm curious, like
what are some things you do toget yourself back to that high
vibrational energy?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Um, first things first.
I like working out.
I like going to the gym ormoving.
It doesn't have to be at thegym, moving outside and getting
my blood flow, getting oxygen tomy brain.
There's more oxygen anywhere inyour body.
You heal.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So, uh, I would say Going to the gym, eating healthy
and drinking water, that islike so underrated.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I know that those are like such basic things
, but like no, I'm not.
I completely agree with you,not judging at all, I'm like
they are.
So look at you, he's gettinghis water right now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I like to show that it's water, but in here it's
like a special.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's actually vodka.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm going to drink my water too.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I'm going to drink my water too.
Everybody's drinking water.
Drink your water, everybody.
Take a water break.
No, I agree, like, so I thinkI've always been like with
movement, just like I have to do, like the most extreme thing,
(23:49):
and maybe it's me maturing in mylate twenties, I don't know.
But now I'm like just walking,I love weight training, I like
doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu andstuff like that, but I'm like,
dude, just go another good walk.
Like the way that changes mementally is just mind blowing.
And then there's so manystudies, I feel like you know,
(24:10):
with diet, culture and stuff.
This is so off topic but I'menjoying talking to you so I'm
going for it.
But I feel like with diet,culture and stuff, we have been
fed this thing of exercise andfood for losing weight or
looking a certain way, which isfine, but that's not the main
point of it.
That's like the secondary,that's like the after effect,
(24:33):
Like you know what, that's likethe secondary thing from it,
Like at the root of it.
They've talked about so muchhow food is just connected to
mental health.
Now there's so many studiesaround food and what we're
eating and mental health, andthen movement, like we are a
society, I mean even a lot ofparts of the world like there's
just not enough movement anymore.
(24:54):
So I love it.
I love that it was basic,because there are three things
that are just so simple but makereally big differences.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, yes.
And I would say another thingwhich I'm like I don't do, but I
, but when I, when I haveconsistently done it, meditating
dude, even bro, even if it'sjust two to five minutes, the
(25:23):
thing that those two to fiveminutes does for the rest of
your 23 hours and 55 minutes ofyour day is incredible and it's
very.
I mean, if you like, say it outloud meditate for two to five
minutes, 23 hours of your day isgoing to be different, on a
(25:43):
better, on a positive note.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's so easy that people don't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, well, the other thing is, I think we what I
talked to you earlier about wevery much live in this like idea
that we have to do so much, butconsistency and little bits of
consistency.
They had to just have suchlasting impacts.
And I am just now starting tolike piece that together for
myself, because I've always beenthe person it's like I need to
do so much, or I'll do fourhours on Sunday and when you
(26:15):
like think about it, it's likeI'm not going to sit down and
meditate for four hours.
Do you know what type ofmeditation do you like?
Guided mantra, breathwork,meditation like what's your?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
breathwork.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So I started off with guided, but I but one of my
friends kind of introducedbreathwork to me and I mean it's
it's to each their own, to eachtheir own, but the breathwork
for me, it opens chakras andflow like in spaces where energy
(26:53):
is kept.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, I.
So I recently started seguefrom guided to breathwork, doing
more breathwork and doing morelike meditating on my own, like
not even putting music on.
I've been doing a lot ofmeditating like just in nature
and using like kind of nature asmy guide.
But that's funny.
You mentioned chakras because Ijust started doing I've been
(27:15):
doing like some guidedmeditation to like kind of open
chakras and stuff like that.
I've been like getting intothat.
I know some people be thinkingthat we're hippies but I got you
.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Let me ask you a question what got you, what,
what?
What kind of propelled you toexplore that?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Um, so it's things that I've been curious about,
for sure.
And then my ex she is very muchinvolved in spirituality and
stuff and um, it just kind ofthere were things I got curious
about and I think a lot for me.
I was trying to wow, youflipped the interview.
I just realized that, um, I, I,for me, was like trying to put
(27:54):
on how spirituality worked forher and I realized, okay, I need
to figure this out for myself.
Like I have to figure out howthis looks for me and then my
faith in God is really importantto me, so kind of figuring out
how my faith and my spiritualityand all that kind of ties
(28:15):
together.
And I do believe in energiesand high vibrations and low
vibrations and very much new toit, like all of that.
Um, I've been meditating offand on, like doing guided
meditations for a few years nowbut, I think it's not like.
I want to know more and I wantto know genuinely how to feel
(28:38):
secure and rooted in myself.
So let's flip it back to you,spotlight.
Um what about you?
Like how is I love this, I lovethat I was completely said way
to way, or like I don't evenknow if segway is the right way,
but like, not even like artistconversation, but that's great,
because that's the point of this.
(28:59):
I just want to open up for you.
Um, what about you?
How did like kind ofspirituality and you know
getting into chakras andmeditation, like how did that
start coming up Going?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
about for you.
So I was just always, I'malways devil's advocate in every
conversation.
I feel like, just because Ilike, I like listening to
different perspectives and likethrowing different perspectives
out there, just to like, kind of, you know, put, add some
different color to the water.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I feel like you just drop a bomb and you're like I
actually hate chakra, like cool.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I'm just like I've always.
Okay, I'll answer your question.
I've always been curious.
I'm just like curious humanbeing.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm so and I know from like when I was younger.
Like I've always just beengifted with intuition and and
and, just and just frequencies.
I don't, I don't know.
I grew up Catholic.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, no, I absolutely think that there are
people who tune into that moreum than other people, and I
think people can learn to tuneinto that.
I don't think it's, but Idefinitely think I think people
have natural gifts and I thinkthat's definitely a gift that
some people have, that they justpick up on that stuff easier.
And I also think like different, like childhood experiences and
(30:30):
stuff like that can make youmore aware of reading people and
being very intuitive aboutpeople, and then that starts
transitioning into like energiesand stuff like that.
So that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
No, it definitely does.
It definitely makes sensebecause I know um.
I think between seven or eightyears old, your third eye starts
closing.
That's like an order.
That's because, so when you'reyounger, like a lot of other
dimensions, talk like you'revery sensitive and susceptible
(31:06):
to other dimensions of the world.
So that's where you see likekids talking to like ghosts.
Let me just give you an exampleright, yeah.
Or, like they, like, they like,start talking about things that
, like they, they're too youngto even know about.
Like that, this happened.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Right Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, they just know.
So when you start getting older, that third eye closes, because
in that realm there's a lot ofgood and bad energies that third
eye closes in order to protectthe individual.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, you saying how you know your individuals
experiences shape.
I guess the gift or dependingon what, they live through.
Yeah, definitely believe them.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, for sure, I think too like kids, like from
like nannying and stuff.
I'm just like people.
We so adults, so underestimatechildren.
I like kids are just theirlittle sponges, but they're also
little teachers.
Okay, bringing it back to likeacting, performing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I know we went all around the bush, but I still
loved it.
It was great.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
You're fun to talk.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I appreciate it back at you.
Um, how do you feel like youstand out in the industry?
Do you feel like you stand out,you feel like you blend in?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
In regards to my talent or regards to who I are.
Regards to me.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Both.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I think I stand out as myself more to be, honest
with you.
I don't think people are likeme.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, nobody is.
Nobody will do anything the waythat you do it.
So, whether that's acting,whether it's the same role and
they have three people that lookthe same, nobody's gonna
perform it.
If they're doing it genuinely,through their lens, their
perspective, their prep work, ifyou're trying to do that thing
where you're like I'm trying toget the casting director or the
(33:07):
director what I think they want,then yeah, y'all might have
similar performances.
But if you really show up anddo it through your lens and
through your experiences,nobody's gonna do it like you.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
That's powerful.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I would say in the same thing with music.
I think when you're trying tobe somebody else, then yeah, you
can be like okay, yeah, youknow things come across similar,
but when you're really usingyour voice, like Andres or Liz,
everybody's got a story.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
There's no comment system, just you.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, go ahead.
I didn't mean to cut you off,but I just love what you said.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You know, no for sure , I think in the entertainment
industry, I think people arelike not curious, Like what
you're doing is not, like Idon't think it's normal because
I feel like you're coming from agenuine standpoint not to get
like clout, Like you think youwould do this, like how you're
doing it right now, Like youdon't, you do it because you
(34:03):
enjoy it.
You like talking to people, youenjoy getting different
perspectives and listening topeople and but curiously,
genuinely listening to people,not just like saying, like
asking questions and then justlike yeah.
Yeah, yeah, A lot of people inthe entertainment industry.
They're used to.
They're not curious.
(34:24):
I don't think they're.
I think it's all me, me, me, asopposed to trying to connect
with people at a deeper level,and I blame social media for
that.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, social media is definitely yeah, it's.
I notice I'll take breaks fromsocials and I'll notice a
dramatic increase in my mentalhealth, I swear.
But I will say I.
It took me a while to get hereand it's something that is
(35:03):
genuinely happening recently.
I would say for me, probablylike the reason I didn't start
this podcast sooner is because Ihad that approach that I was
like okay, how can I grow it?
I want people, like, of courseI want people to listen to it.
Of course I want.
But I really, as I've enteredinto like arts, podcasts, acting
(35:25):
music, my mindset very much wasabout myself and people.
One people don't care.
People don't care who you are,you know.
People don't care who I am,they don't care.
They want to know how, likethis will add value to their
life.
But when I've really startedtrying to shift my art to it's
(35:45):
not about me and I have alwayssaid I want to help people and
I'm like how can my art helppeople?
And if it only reaches oneperson and it helps them, then
it's worth it and genuinelygetting that in my heart and
soul.
And that is something I'm stillworking on and I still have my
(36:08):
ego where I'm like yeah, I hopethis blows up.
I hope that people be listeningto this.
I hope my podcast pays my billsyou know, that's still there.
But also having the gratitudeand like I get to sit down and
talk to you today and Igenuinely want to sit down and
talk to you today, you know.
I feel that yeah, I hope you do.
I really hope everybody whosits down and talks to me feels
(36:31):
like I'm not just like, okay,let's do this, like I'm, like I
genuinely want to sit down andtalk to these people and whoever
I'm talking to.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, yeah, obviously like everything.
It's like making money right,like you want to make money for
your family.
You want to make money to helpother people.
You want to make money totravel and have entertaining
life.
You know what I'm saying.
Like there's, it's like workingout, like you said.
It's like there's like you look.
(36:59):
The byproduct of eating right,having your mental is you look
great.
Also, like physically Right,where you're like that's not
like at the forefront, eventhough it's still there, though
it might be like priority.
Two or three, but it's not likeone, but it's still a priority
right.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, I mean, we all got bills and I would like some
financial freedom in my life.
So I'm not going to say that Idon't want to make some money.
You know, like I've alwaysthought like money shows what is
really at the root of you.
So the more of it you have,whatever is at the root of you,
(37:40):
like whoever you truly are, isgoing to come through.
So if you're a very egotisticalperson who doesn't care about
people, selfish, the more moneyyou have, the more power you
have, that's going to comethrough more.
But you also see people with alot of money who are very
compassionate and very givingand very helpful and I think
it's just it's going to takewhatever is at the root of you
(38:03):
and the more money you have, themore that magnifying glass is
going to expand.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Honey, you know, unpopular opinion I think.
I think majority of people thatdo have a lot of money are
compassionate people.
I think we get like in themedia and like we look at
someone that's like successfuland we portray them to be the
complete opposite of what themajority are.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well, yeah, and we also see that on social media.
It's really easy when, even ifyou don't comment or anything
like that, it's that's like thatenvy, that ego, that jealousy.
It's really easy to seesomebody on social media who's
doing well and your mediathought in your head isn't hell
yeah, like look good for them.
It's like damn, I want, I wantwhat they have.
You know, or they're probablythis or you know, you
(38:56):
immediately have some type ofnegative thought About that.
That's something else I've beentrying to work on is like
having like that Hell yeah, goodfor you, my turn's coming, you
know mindset instead of that'snot easy, but I would definitely
agree with you that, likesocial media really, and Media
alone, we I mean we lovefocusing on the negative.
(39:17):
That's what media wants tofocus on.
There's just as many feel-goodand positive stories out there
as there are negative, but weonly have to say negative.
That would be okay.
I'm curious.
I have two questions kind ofclosing, but I love this.
I love we talked about, I lovehow like it went all over the
place.
It's so fun and I think there'sso much useful stuff in here.
But with acting and music, whatwith acting, what would be like
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your dream role.
Like I know you said, thevillain thing.
Is that like right now, like beplaying like a serial killer,
that be like your thing, or isit something else?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I I would love, I would have you seen the movie
taken.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I would love to be the villain and taken Like
there's something about like thegrunge and like the.
It's like such a strong, likethe content is so strong and and
(40:23):
grunge and gritty and tabooLook at it if you really think
about it.
So being being the bad guy inthere just seems Like a very
Interesting role to take andit's attractive to me to be that
(40:44):
role, you know what's no I.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
So I honestly find what I've found because I've
been acting for about Geez, Iwanted to say five years, I
think it's like six what I'vefound people who are like very
genuine, very kind, verycompassionate, like that's
really who they are.
I feel like they do the best atplaying like these really
grungy villain, just likeheinous kind of characters.
(41:10):
Yeah, I don't know entirelylike what that is, but it's very
bizarre.
Like sometimes, like the nicestpeople I have met is like you
call action.
I mean even even you.
You're like so sweet on set,we're vibing, and then all of a
sudden they're like action.
You're like I mean, but I guessthat's just being an actor too
(41:31):
like I jumped into being avictim real quick, but you know,
like you like wait for it, likewhich I love to the energy went
straight into murdering me andHaley, like so you didn't, he
didn't kill us, guys, don'tworry, it was.
(41:51):
It was a different character,we survived, but uh, no, that's
so fun.
I love that.
I can see it too.
What about music?
Like kind of what are yourgoals?
What's up coming with that?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, dude, so with music um, I teamed up with One
of my best friends that went to.
He went to school.
He went to college with me.
So I went to Georgia State, Igot my degree and then I went to
SAE school for Audioengineering.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Oh, okay cool, so a friend that I made at the
university.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I teamed up with him and we've been working on music
for the past two or three monthsfun and man, we just he's just
been coming over and we've justbeen putting in work.
So, yeah, he just came over.
He's been coming over for thelast two to three months.
We've been like working on twoprojects very freaking excited
about.
(42:48):
It's a hint of like the AtlantaTrap that comes with Atlanta
and then a mixture of like mysound, which is very I would
like to say it's like Drake inSpanish.
Okay, that's cool.
Yeah, so that's super exciting.
So we have like the Atlanta likethe Atlanta hip hop trap, and
(43:12):
then we have the hispanic Me andwe just kind of mesh our sounds
together.
So I don't think there's reallyanything like it out.
That's super fun.
So it's very fun and we meshvery well together.
He's Shout out to K-Dub he's.
He's really talented individualso I'm blessed that you know
gotta put him in front of me.
(43:33):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I feel like um actors are At least getting to work on
some other artistic pursuitsright now, because I feel like
I've talked to a few peoplewho's like I'm doing this, I'm
doing this, and they're reallyworking on other avenues and
areas right now, which is Hardbecause we also like acting and,
like you know, we want to getback to that.
(43:57):
But I also think it's anexciting, in a way, that we have
these other things that we'regetting to work on right and
also, and also like, somethingthat's like super cool about
working with, with K-Dub is thatit's a lot of work, it's a.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
It's a Avagant American dude and I'm a Hispanic
dude, so like kind of mergingthe two cultures together,
there's so much there's like somuch division in the world and,
yeah, I love I, I see it as anopportunity to bring multiple
cultures together and, and youknow, yeah start the, the
(44:38):
transition on being Togetheragain, the together.
So it's like something I amreally striving to Get done
together, different cultures.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I Definitely think that's a great goal because I
think people think there's thereis division in the world, but I
think we are.
We see a lot more of thatversus people who are trying to
close that division, like youand K-Dub.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Um, are y'all playing out at all, or do you have a
date like when this will becoming out, like where people
can see it at?
I can link it maybe.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I haven't set the date.
It's gonna be before before2023 ends.
There's gonna be, there's gonnabe, a lot of content.
We have a shit dude, we have ashit ton of content.
But I, I'm the type of personthat I want, I want, I want to
do it right.
So, like, yeah, fucking longass catalog.
So I'm not working behind, so I.
(45:38):
So it's like we're to the pointwhere 2024 is already finished.
I got so much Song song.
We've already like done.
We're like we're like working.
We're like on the dl, likewe're working, like in silent,
okay, you like working, likewell.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Frank Ocean.
Do you listen to him?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
I love Frank Ocean.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Okay, he's got a quote.
So I actually have it like onmy vision board and it's like
work hard in silence.
Let success be your noise.
Hmm.
So I love, like what you said,that y'all are like working,
working, working on the dl.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
That's cool.
That's really my.
Get that quote tatted on me,man.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Next time I see you.
Just no, that's super exciting.
I'm really happy where I willtag all of Andres's stuff on my
instagram.
I'm me pod 21 when I post thison insult.
So if y'all are interested inthis music or anything like that
or we can't really promoteupcoming film projects right now
(46:38):
Because of the strike, but ifyou want to follow this guy, see
what he's up to, then I willabsolutely post that.
Thank you, andres, so much.
Today I had like such a funtime talking to you.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Likewise, liz.
Thank you for having me.
You, I always cut you off.
No, it's good, it's good.
I'm just saying you're amazing,appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Thank you.
Is there anything you want toshare in closing?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
um, yeah, just be yourself, stress yourself, um Be
close to god and Keep moving,because god he can't.
He can't Drive a car in park,but he can help steer it and
drive.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh, dang, okay, that's a quote.
Somebody's gonna get thattatted on them, all right.
Thank you everybody forlistening.
I hope people got something outof this.
If you could rate and reviewthe podcast with all the
instagram, it just helps me dowhat I'm doing, and thank you so
much, andres.
I had a great time talking toyou, thank you.
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