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Dani (00:00):
Welcome to the I Am One
Podcast.
On today's episode, we'respotlighting PSI's online
support groups, an incrediblefree resource available to
anyone.
PSI support groups are not areplacement for therapy.
They are, however, anincredible way for folks to
connect with others and feelless alone.
For this conversation, we'rebringing in an expert, Kristina
(00:22):
Ledlow.
She's a certified childbirtheducator.
She's certified in perinatalmental health, and we can
certify that she's doing so muchto support folks in the
perinatal period here atPostpartum Support International
on staff and as a volunteer.
She does a fantastic job ofanswering all of our burning
questions.
So if you are interested infree, specialized online support
(00:43):
groups, know someone who is, orare just interested in learning
more, sit back, relax, andenjoy this special episode
spotlighting PSI's onlinesupport groups.
Kristina, welcome to thepodcast studio.
We are so happy to be here withyou today to chat about an
incredible resource here atPostpartum Support
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International.
We are going to be asking youall of our burning questions
today about PSI's online supportgroups in English.
I'm emphasizing in Englishbecause there are support groups
in Spanish, correct?
Kristina (01:17):
There are.
There are many support groupsin Spanish.
Dani (01:19):
Yeah.
But today we're just going, wewill have another episode about
Spanish support groups.
So if you're interested, staytuned.
But today we're talking aboutthe English support groups.
So anyway, all of that to say,thank you so much for being
here.
We're so happy that you'rehere.
Kristina (01:33):
Thank you for having
me.
I'm excited to be here.
Emily (01:35):
Kristina, who are you?
Oh, who am I?
So I am Kristina GuerreroLedlow.
I use pronouns she, her, andella.
I have been with PSI in variouscapacities.
I've been doing these supportgroups in terms of facilitating
them for, I think it's been justa little over three years now.
I teach the postpartum planningclass for PSI.
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I also chair the Michiganchapter for PSI.
I work in perinatal mentalhealth in our local healthcare
system.
I'm out of Kalamazoo, Michigan.
And I've got two kiddos of myown that are 17 and 14.
I'm also a certified birthdoula, and a certified
childbirth educator, as well ascertified in perinatal mental
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health.
Dani (02:19):
I mean, dang.
Holy cow.
So you're also certified to beawesome.
I love that.
Kristina (02:24):
Oh, thank you.
I'm gonna add that to my bio.
Thank you.
Dani (02:28):
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Emily (02:29):
Yes.
There should be a couple extraletters there.
Kristina (02:31):
I like that.
I'll do it.
Dani (02:34):
Okay, Kristina, thank you
for that introduction.
Can you give us kind of ageneral overview of what are
PSI's online support groups?
What's the elevator pitch?
Tell us about them.
Kristina (02:47):
So when I am talking
to new parents, the way I like
to describe it is these groupsare a place that you can connect
with other people in thatperinatal time period who just
get it.
They understand because they'retoo.
Whatever challenges that you'regoing through, we pretty much
have a support group for it.
I think we run over, like, 50different ones now.
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So there are groups forpregnancy, postpartum, fertility
challenges, grief and loss.
There's definitely a placewhere you can feel that
inclusivity and community.
Dani (03:18):
That's really incredible
because I know a handful of
years ago there were just, youknow, a few support groups,
right?
And just over the last two,three years, like it's just
exploded.
There are so many specializedsupport groups, which is so
cool.
We will put a link to thesupport groups page in the show
notes.
So if you're looking forsomething special, oh my gosh,
it's just– it's so cool.
Kristina (03:39):
I would agree.
Emily (03:40):
Okay.
So if I am a new mom, Iidentify as a mom.
So I'm using myself as theexample, right?
But, like, I'm a new parent,mom, dad, non-binary.
And I am looking to connectwith people in this way where I
can be like, hey, I haveintrusive thoughts, and people
will be like, same.
Kristina (04:01):
Yeah.
That's rough, right?
Like, no need to furtherexplain what an intrusive
thought is or how frustrating ordebilitating they can be.
How do I get to a supportgroup?
If I'm like, ooh, this soundsreally good, I want to be able
to be in community with peoplewho, like, just get it.
Dani (04:17):
Like, do people go online?
Yes, that is a great question.
So you can go right to ourwebsite.
And I know that you all aregonna put a link, I think, for
that too, right?
Emily (04:27):
Yes.
Dani (04:27):
We definitely will.
Kristina (04:28):
Because you can go to
the website and then there's,
you know, different tabs.
You can go to the get help andit'll take you to support
groups.
But if you start from ourwebsite and you're on the area
where it talks about onlinesupport groups, it will
actually, when you go toregister, take you to another
platform where it's calledShareWell.
ShareWell is just the platformwhere we sort of house our
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support groups.
They're always free.
If you do go to ShareWell andthere are other things that you
can take part in in Sharewell,you do have to pay.
You never have to pay thoughfor PSI.
So even though we're on thatplatform, I just want to be
really clear that it is nevergoing to cost you any money.
You go to ShareWell, you makeyour account on ShareWell.
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It's going to give you all ofthe information there where you
can access the PSI supportgroups.
There's dedicated communities.
And if you do have anyquestions, you can always reach
out to groups @ postpartum.net.
Emily (05:22):
Is ShareWell, if I've
never been to it, is it sort of
like Eventbrite, where like someof the stuff is free?
Like our stuff, PSI stuff isfree.
So you could sign up to attenda thing.
Like you get your ticket, as itwere– but it's not a ticket–
for a support group, but you getyour spot.
So it's like that.
But then there's other thingsthrough Eventbrite where you
could be like, I want to go to aconcert, but you're paying to
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go to a concert.
Kristina (05:43):
You're spot on.
So when you do go up toShareWell and you register to
make your account there, you'llskip the unlimited offer on the
payment page because all of ourgroups are free.
And then it allows you toaccess the PSI support groups in
the dedicated communities thatyou can find there on ShareWell.
Emily (05:59):
Got it.
Dani (05:59):
Great.
So you find the group that youwant to attend and you register
for it.
What if somebody doesn't know,like, okay, so you said that
there are lots of specializedsupport groups.
Are there any general supportgroups?
If you are like, I don't know,some people don't even know how
they're feeling.
Are there just kind of somelike, general new parent support
groups that are not necessarilyspecialized?
(06:19):
Okay, cool.
Kristina (06:21):
There's so many.
So let me just kind of walk youthrough it.
When you first go to PSI's pageand you'll see a list, it's
almost overwhelming, but there'sso many different ones that you
can look at and you will seethat there are general ones.
So general ones for pregnancy,postpartum, both.
Some that are just forpartners, some that partners and
moms and birthing persons canattend together.
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So there are very general ones,and then you'll see very
specialized ones.
Then when you actually registerand you attend a group, I kind
of want to walk you through whatthe group's like.
Dani (06:50):
Yeah, tell us what it's
like.
Kristina (06:52):
The groups are 90
minutes, so an hour and a half
in length.
The first 30 minutes isinvolved providing information,
education.
This is establishing the groupguidelines.
And this part's reallyimportant because not only does
it give information on otheravailable PSI resources, but the
education part is often theeye-opening part to so many of
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our newer attendees because thisis so much of that help for
them to understand the symptomsthat they're experiencing.
This is something that's– notonly is it such a thing, we
actually have research and we'regiving you education on this.
So there's this real momentwhere you see everyone kind of,
oh, okay, like wow, I'm in theright place.
Emily (07:32):
This thing has a name.
Kristina (07:33):
Exactly.
And when you were referencingOCD, for instance, there's the
general groups where we talk ingeneral, but there's the OCD
group.
So then we're talking about,hey, do you know that our brains
actually change?
And this is what a brain that'sdealing with OCD looks like,
and this is one that doesn't.
And then you see this sort of,like, moment where everybody
starts to feel more incommunity, less isolated.
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There's just a sharedunderstanding.
So it's– that education part isalso just such a critical part
of the healing as well.
And then we do ourintroductions and we have 60
minutes of like, basically talktime and community time where
everyone just is able to talkabout what's on their heart.
Emily (08:15):
Yeah.
Who leads the support groups?
Is it like a therapist?
Is it somebody with livedexperience?
I love that you asked thatbecause it's so important that
we have people that are leadingthese groups that understand and
have lived experience becauseit is a peer support group.
And so, exactly.
So it's not a therapy group.
There's a difference, right?
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So therapy groups are a form ofprofessional mental health
treatment led by an expert witha focus on more of like a
structured kind of recovery forspecific issues.
But a peer support group is ledwith individuals with lived
experience that are focusing onthis, you know, mutual
supportive, emotional help.
We're all sort of copingtogether.
(08:58):
And so your leaders are goingto have that lived experience.
And many of them actually alsohave experience within the
perinatal mental health world aswell, professionally.
Dani (09:08):
You know what else is
really cool?
This is like a little fun factabout some of the support group
leaders.
Some of the support groupleaders have actually been
attendees in online PSI supportgroups.
So that's also, I think, prettycool.
Kristina (09:21):
It's amazing.
Emily (09:22):
It's like you've
graduated.
Kristina (09:24):
Yes, exactly.
There's that element of (09:25):
you've
been there and you're out the
other side.
I can do this too.
Emily (09:31):
Yes.
That is cool.
Okay.
Um, follow-up question.
Is there a cap on how manysupport groups you can attend
each week?
Do you have, like a punch card?
Can you attend every day?
Yeah, do you get a free coffeeafter you've gone to so many?
Kristina (09:45):
That would be awesome
because then we could actually,
like, see each other.
But no, there is not, there isnot a cap on how many you can
attend.
I always tell people you canattend one a day if you wanted
to.
That's what is available foryou.
Then do it.
There is a cap on how many areallowed in the group.
So it's important to be on timefor the groups.
Dani (10:05):
Okay.
Kristina (10:05):
Because we always want
people to be able to talk and
contribute.
So we cap at 16 participants.
Dani (10:13):
Great.
Kristina (10:13):
When we have reached
that limit, we will put a note
in the message if somebody comesafterwards and let them know
where they can register forothers, if they weren't able to
make that one.
Cause again, we're running themall the time, but we do keep it
small so that it does feel thatsense of community and that
intimacy that you need from apeer support group, as well.
Dani (10:31):
Will somebody know if a
support group– I've just got all
of the questions.
Kristina (10:35):
I love that.
I have one too.
So I'm next.
Hold on.
It's my turn, Emily.
Hang on.
Thanks.
Um, when somebody goes toregister for a support group,
will they see that it's capped?
Like will they not be able toregister?
They will be able to
register.
They just want to be there ontime.
So it's not going to tell themthat it's capped.
(10:57):
And it's actually better thatway because sometimes you will
have people that life happensand they don't necessarily make
it to group.
So if you were not able toregister because there was a cap
and someone was not going to bethere, then they would miss out
on that opportunity.
So they don't, they're notgoing to put that on there.
Just being there on timetypically will get you in.
Dani (11:16):
Okay.
Great.
Be there on time.
Kristina (11:18):
Yes, be there on time.
Dani (11:19):
Plan ahead.
Set yourself a reminder 15minutes early or something, you
know?
Life hacks.
Kristina (11:24):
Yes, I like it.
Emily (11:25):
Okay.
My question is a little bitdifferent.
And this is totally off script.
But we've all been to like, Idon't know, that like mom's
night where you've got like, theone mom friend who, like,
totally monopolizes theconversation.
And you're like, you're like,but I have stuff I need, like,
you know, my kid isn't doingtheir homework and I need to
complain about it right now.
(11:47):
Or my baby is not sleepingthrough the night, and I am
super frustrated, and I needsome space held for me.
And I need people who can go,like, I promise this actually
won't last for forever, right?
What happens like as someonewho's maybe a little socially
anxious?
Do you have a way that youhandle that so that, like, no
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one feels like they didn't get achance?
Kristina (12:10):
I love that you asked
that because I've been there,
right?
In that position that you justexplained.
Yes, we do.
We're really good at our jobswhen it comes to facilitating.
And we also establish communityguidelines in the very
beginning during thateducational portion of things.
We talk about communityguidelines.
And one of them is that we wantto make sure that everybody
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who's present that wants anddesires the opportunity to share
gets the opportunity to share.
So we do have rules in place,quote unquote rules, that we
talk about to make sure that wedon't have anybody that is
necessarily monopolizing theconversation.
That being said, I'll be honestwith you, it's not very common
that we have that.
(12:53):
We have a really good balance.
People that come to thesegroups tend to be there because
they understand, they not onlywant to share, but they also do
want to hold that space forpeople.
So we have guidelines in placeand we also have really
wonderful, compassionate,empathetic peers that are
present.
Emily (13:12):
That's amazing.
Can you guys come to our mom'snight outs?
Like, can you facilitate likemy social situations?
Just kidding.
Speaking of peers, Kristina,can you tell us why is peer
support so vital to healing forfolks?
Like going and seeing atherapist, great.
(13:34):
Right.
But talk to us about peersupport.
Kristina (13:36):
So peer support is so
vital to healing because it
addresses the isolation, thestigma, and oftentimes that
hopelessness, right, thathappens with the isolation and
the stigma.
Dani (13:48):
Like that feeling of,
like, I'm alone in this, like
this is like a personalpersonality flaw.
This is all me.
This is like–
Kristina (13:57):
Exactly.
Dani (13:58):
Okay.
Kristina (13:58):
It's unique because it
provides this non-clinical form
of support.
It's ultimately grounded inthat power, just like you said,
of that shared lived experience.
Emily (14:07):
Yeah.
Kristina (14:08):
So peers, just like I
said, also typically have this
level of empathy andunderstanding that non-peers,
not that our professionals, youknow, are not, but they're not
your peers.
So it's different.
They can't fully replicate thatin necessarily like a therapy
setting, right?
Where it's just you and atherapist.
Because your peers have walkedthe same path, they're going to
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get it.
So you're going to get adifferent sort of validation
from them than you do get in theother setting.
So there's no need forexplanation, like you feel like
you have to in so many otherways, because there's not that
fear of judgment, because theyget it.
Dani (14:42):
Totally.
It's really important.
Yeah.
Emily (14:45):
I think I have the
perfect metaphor for this.
And it might be because I havehigh school students, but hear
me out.
Okay.
When you are a freshman on yourfirst day of high school, like
the school feels big, you'revery like, ooh, like, I don't
know what the next couple ofyears are going to look like.
You don't know that it's goingto get more comfortable and that
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you're going to be, I don'tknow, more coming into your new
self, like your new high schoolself.
So you, as the brand new mom onthe first day, or brand new dad
or brand new partner on thefirst day in this support group,
you're like, I'm brand new atthis.
Am I doing this right?
How's my outfit?
Dani (15:23):
Am I going to remember how
to unlock my locker?
Oh my gosh.
Kristina (15:26):
Yes.
Emily (15:27):
Right.
Everything feels overwhelming.
Dani (15:29):
Yeah.
But then you're a sophomore.
Or like, then you have athree-month-old, right?
And so then, like, you're like,oh my God, like, remember when
we were freshmen and we wereworried about this, or like, so
like, you then can be thehelpful upperclassman.
So you get, because of the waypeer support works, right?
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Like, you get to first be theperson who's new and be like, oh
my gosh, I've never done thisbefore.
It's all a lot.
And then there's someone who'sbeen at this just a little bit
longer, or maybe this is theirsecond kid and they're in the
support group for whatever itis, anxiety or a fourth degree
tear or whatever, right?
(16:11):
Oh, way to bring that up.
Jeez.
Emily (16:14):
It's rough.
That took a turn there.
And then you're a senior,right?
So, like because you get tohave this progression.
Kristina (16:21):
Well, I think that's
what's unique.
Emily (16:23):
Yeah.
Because you have people thatare coming for the first time,
and then you have people thatare there and are more regular.
And then you have yourfacilitators with a lived
experience, right?
So you are explaining itbeautifully.
It's a way that you get to seethat progression and also that
healing in real time, when youare around the same people on a
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regular basis.
Yeah.
Kristina (16:47):
It's a really awesome
shared experience.
Emily (16:49):
It's like the reminder
that you're not actually going
to be a freshman for forever.
Kristina (16:53):
Yeah.
Emily (16:53):
Like time isn't frozen.
Kristina (16:55):
No, time's not frozen.
Emily (16:57):
It feels like it
sometimes.
Kristina (16:58):
It does feel like
that.
And I think people feel nervousabout, you know, coming to
groups for the first time, butit is the most caring,
compassionate, wonderful space.
One of the best, bestexperiences I had in a group.
I had this beautiful woman thathad been a regular at the
fertility challenges group.
And this was, like, probablyclose to when I had first
started doing groups.
And she summed it up so well.
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We were talking about why doyou come to group?
And she said, I come to groupto hear my name and to know that
I am seen and that I'm heard.
And that was the most amazing.
I also love to close out groupsthat way.
Now by saying, Dani, Emily, I'mso glad you were here.
I hope you felt seen and heard,because that was so powerful
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for me to hear that from her.
And it's true.
We want to feel seen and heard.
Dani (17:43):
Oh my gosh, Kristina.
Well, this is an audio onlyepisode.
My eyeballs are all teary.
I just got goosebumpseverywhere.
Aw, yeah.
Even now, just now, when yousaid my name, I was like, oh,
right.
Emily (17:56):
Yes.
Yeah, I feel seen.
Mm-hmm.
Dani (17:58):
That's so lovely.
I have another question.
I have so many burningquestions.
If somebody has a suggestionfor a group that they don't see
listed, do you, like, have acomment section, like box where
you take suggestions?
Kristina (18:16):
So we always have a
feedback form.
So that absolutely you can putsomething on that.
But you can also, if you arelooking for a group and you
don't see something that is whatyou feel like you need, you can
also reach out to that groups @postpartum.net.
Dani (18:30):
Perfect.
Just shoot an email.
Kristina (18:32):
Yeah.
Dani (18:32):
Okay.
And just say, hey, have youever thought about this
specialized group?
And then it'll be on the radar.
Cool.
Emily, do you have other uhburning questions about– why do
I keep saying burning?
Nothing's burning.
I just...
I just had this thought,though.
I was like, oh my gosh, we needa quiz.
We need a like a personalitytype quiz, but for groups where
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you're like, I need to go to asupport group, but like I'm not
sure.
And then it's like, are you– doyou have purple hair?
Yes or no?
And so, like, then you're likeon one track.
You know what I mean?
It like filters you down toit's like, you should try the
OCD group.
You should try the, like, DesiSouth Asian moms group, you
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know?
Kristina (19:15):
Yes.
I love that.
We don't currently have that,but–
We don't currently
have that.
But one of the nice thingsabout, I love it.
I also think one of the nicethings about not having that is
that when you do go, it givesyou a um, when you're looking at
the website, it does give you adescription.
So it feels like, okay, I'm notjust pigeonholed to just be in
this group or I can only be inthis group.
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This one looks like it couldapply to me.
So I'm gonna try it.
And if I feel comfortable here,then I keep attending here.
If this one looks like itdoesn't apply to me at all, then
yeah, probably not gonna be it.
So it also gives people theopportunity to sort of feel out
what is right for them too.
Dani (19:51):
Great.
Emily (19:51):
I have another question.
Kristina (19:53):
Yes.
Emily (19:54):
Okay.
I have read the description.
I have felt seen in thedescription.
I have gone into ShareWell,I've signed up for this group,
I'm there on time, I get in andI'm like, I'm not sure this is
for me.
Oh my gosh.
I then am feeling like it'smaybe not a good fit.
Dani (20:11):
Oh.
Emily (20:11):
Do people ever like leave
the group early?
Are you allowed to do that?
Like what happens if you get inthere and you go, ooh, I don't
think I'm in the right class,you know?
Kristina (20:23):
Yeah, you have agency
all the time.
If you don't feel comfortable,absolutely you can leave.
The other thing you need toknow is that when you are in the
groups, you can have yourcamera on.
You can have it off if youwant.
Dani (20:37):
That was my next question.
Kristina (20:39):
Yes, the only time it
is required is for
introductions.
We do that because we want tomake sure that we're keeping the
space psychologically safe,that we know who is in the space
with us.
But if you don't feel safe andcomfortable with your camera on,
it's okay to turn it off.
So we love to see your face.
We love to be able to createthat community, but we want you
to feel safe and comfortablefirst.
(21:00):
So that's also an optionbecause some people are like,
maybe it's the right place, butI don't know, but I don't want
to leave.
So try it out.
It's okay.
But if you do, yes, you alwayshave agency to exit the group
and return to a different group.
Dani (21:15):
Yep.
I feel like these are thethings that would come up for
me.
I'm like, rememberingpostpartum me, and I would have
been like, okay, but whathappens if I get in there and
I'm uncomfortable?
Like, what happens if I get inthere and I'm monopolizing the
conversation, but you guys aretrained to help me take a beat?
Yes.
Yeah.
You don't need to worry aboutthat.
Emily (21:34):
Yeah.
Kristina (21:35):
Exactly.
We're there to help guide you.
Dani (21:37):
Amazing.
That's good stuff.
Well, I guess as we arewrapping up our conversation
about support groups here, Ihave two questions, slightly
different, but slightly similar.
What would you want helpseekers to know about support
groups?
And what would you likeproviders who are supporting
folks in the perinatal period toknow about support groups?
(21:59):
Two pronged.
Kristina (22:01):
I think the answer is
the same for both, is it is
going to help immensely to be apart of support groups because
you know you're not alone.
And there is community– orthere's healing in community, is
what I mean.
When you are together and youknow you're not alone, it's not
a snap of the fingers, now I'mokay, but it is a pathway to
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feeling better and to healing.
So I think as a provider,knowing that to tell your
patients and your clients, it'sreally important.
And I feel like as a helpseeker, it's really important to
know that.
Dani (22:32):
Oh, that's lovely.
Emily (22:34):
That's so true.
Dani (22:35):
We will put links to the
support groups in the show
notes.
I forgot to ask, if somebody isinterested in possibly
volunteering as a support groupleader, how does that work?
Is there a link on the supportgroup's website for
volunteering?
Kristina (22:50):
There's general
information on PSI's website on
how to volunteer.
If you are specificallyinterested in support groups,
you can certainly reach out tothat groups @ postpartum.net.
We don't allow like observersto come to support groups
because we keep the space safe.
Dani (23:05):
Yeah.
But if that's something thatyou're interested in and it's
specific to support groups, youcan always reach out to that
same email.
Okay.
Yeah, we'll put a link in theshow notes.
There are lots of ways tovolunteer at PSI.
Support groups is one of them.
Kristina (23:17):
Yes.
Dani (23:18):
And sometimes you have
enough of a pool of support
group leaders, right, Kristina,that you don't necessarily need–
you don't have a need for newvolunteers.
And then sometimes you mightneed to, you know.
Kristina (23:30):
Exactly.
It ebbs and flows.
And, um, I'm personally not incharge of that.
So I don't know where we're atwith that.
But yes, it it absolutely issomething that, you know,
volunteers are needed always inall different areas.
And it's definitely somethingthat if you want to–
Even if you're just getting onthe list for later.
Exactly.
It's something, yeah, you areinterested in, definitely let us
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know.
Dani (23:53):
Awesome.
Well, is there anything,Kristina, that we haven't asked
you?
We did ask you a lot ofquestions.
Some that were on script andsome that were off script.
And you've done fantastic.
So thank you.
Thank you.
Is there anything else that wemissed?
Uh, didn't ask.
That you wanted to add?
Emily (24:10):
What's your favorite
pizza topping?
Dani (24:12):
Emily.
Kristina (24:12):
Oh, pepperoni.
Dani (24:14):
Oh, okay.
Do you ever have, like,icebreaker questions?
Like when you do the intros,like, do you have icebreakers to
help people?
Kristina (24:21):
Sometimes.
I don't particularly love theicebreaker questions, but that's
just me.
I think every facilitator isdifferent.
And that's kind of what's nicetoo, is you're gonna have
different facilitators who aredifferent facilitators, right?
So different personalities, butI don't so much love that.
Emily (24:36):
Yeah.
Kristina (24:36):
I kind of like to
start off with we all know why
we're here.
So what's on your heart andmind?
Like, let's just talk.
And that's kind of how I liketo start it.
Dani (24:44):
Who cares about pizza?
I want to talk about feelings.
Kristina (24:47):
I mean, I care very
much about it when I'm hungry,
especially.
Emily (24:50):
That's what I'm saying!
Yes.
Dani (24:51):
Emily looks shocked.
Okay.
Well, with that, if we don'thave any other questions to ask
Kristina, it sounds like we mayhave covered it.
Do you want to take us out,Emily?
Emily (25:05):
I would love to.
Dani (25:06):
Okay.
Christina, I think when youintroduced yourself, you listed
like, I don't know, five or sixthings that you do to help
people.
I'm gonna call you like thequintuple threat, the sep-
septuple threat.
Whatever.
I'm literally making up words.
It's fine.
Kristina (25:22):
I like it.
I am looking forward to yourpersonal episode so that we can
talk more about you as a human.
Dani (25:30):
A little Easter egg here.
Emily (25:31):
But I think you have
really brought the human element
to talking about supportgroups.
I hope that people who listento this episode come away
feeling like they know what toexpect, they know that they
belong, and they know how tojoin one.
So thank you.
Dani (25:47):
Thanks, Kristina.
Kristina (25:49):
Thank you so much.
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