November 19, 2020 • 43 mins
Broadcasting out of Malibu, CA, co-hosts, husband and wife duo, Alison Pothier and Jules Williams, introduce the IBULIEVE series and why now more than ever, it is important that we investigate the impact of our beliefs on our lives and our world. Meaning “B and believe in U”, this first episode of the series invites listeners to consider what they truly believe and whether our beliefs are having the positive impact we intend. A first step in the process of positive manifestation and self-actualization, the couple invite listeners to hone their statement of beliefs.
Links referenced in this episode:
https://www.ibulieve.com/
https://www.alisonpothier.com/
https://www.juleswilliams.com/
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Alison_Pothier (00:27):
We are living in a world that doesn't really
fully know what we believeanymore or aren't really ready
to commit that to the rest ofthe world based on you know,
maybe social media kickbacks andappropriateness and political
correctness and and wonderingwhether our beliefs really stick
so we said let's do our firstpodcast on where I BUlieve came
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from, why it matters, what canbe gained from stopping and
asking ourselves that question,"What's the power of belief?"
Jules_Williams (01:02):
This is the brand new podcast from husband
and wife team, Alison Pothierand Jules Williams,
Alison_Pothier (01:07):
Podcasting from the BU in the heart of Malibu. I
BUlieve means B and believe inU. For those who have followed
our I BUlieve visual series,you'll know that we've been
hosting characters withinMalibu, but all of the episodes
that we have been doing lead outof and back to one thing: the
ability to be and believe in youin the world and the ability to
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embrace what we believe as theway we frame our lives ... how
our beliefs frame our lives orwhy our beliefs even matter in
framing our life. It is a globalcontext for what I BUlieve is
about and it's taken us a littlebit of time to start to build
the platform to reflect what itis we always intended for it
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which was to tell stories and toshare insights that help people
reflect on what it is we trulybelieve, remember what it is we
truly believe and reconnect withthat so our worlds reflect a
little bit more of our ownbeliefs rather than those being
imposed on us. We decided tohost a podcast right now to get
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us started. Because we feelthere's a program and there's a
time in the world where peopleare ready and in need of
remembering what it is we trulybelieve.
Jules_Williams (02:25):
I know there's three things there at the
beginning (02:27):
Our external reality is in Malibu, that's where we
live, that's what we see everyday in nature, that's where we
interact so there's the BUcomponent. And, as Al said
earlier on, the BU is also "Band believe in U", as well as
the 'believing' itself (02:41):
What do you Bulieve? It's so easy to say
what do you believe in, but whatwe discovered in filming our
ongoing visual mini docu-seriesis that it doesn't just roll off
the tongue. When we speak words,when we write things down, we
are giving birth to somethingand that means we're also owning
it. On very simple terms, it'swhy people say, with an
affirmation or a vision (03:04):
say it, state it, write it down. You're
giving birth.
Alison_Pothier (03:11):
And maybe the best place to start before we
talk too much about the processand the program is Jules why
don't you talk a little bitabout how how long the statement
I BUlieve has been in your mindand where it came from?
Jules_Williams (03:23):
At the age I was at - I was in college, late 80s,
I was about 20 and watched thefilm Bull Durham. There is a
very specific scene in therewhere he gets asked by Susan
Sarandon's character, and hisname's Crash as a character in
the film and it's like, well"what do you believe in Crash?"
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expecting him not to be able toanswer or catching him on the
hop. And he goes straight intoa monologue of certain things
that he believes in. It's inwatching that that you can
almost tangibly feel orexperience some of the things
he's believing and it shapedhim. He goes, "I believe in the
soul. I believe in the hangingcurveball, high fivers, good
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scotch, that the novels of SusanSontag are self indulgent
overrated crap. I believe LeeHarvey Oswald acted alone. There
should be a constitutionalamendment outlawing astroturf
and the designated hitter. ... "Already there's a few references
in there that are showing he isa purist with baseball if he
believes there should be anamendment against the designated
hitter. So you're starting tosee 'that's interesting'. And
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you know, who's Susan Sontag? Ididn't know she was I had to go
look it up and it's okay, so hestands on the fence that it's
self indulgent over rated crap,and it was real passion and
statement of ownership. Rightfrom that day, I would always
check in with myself and writemy own I believe, "What do I
believe?" and of course thatevolves as I have evolved myself
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or owned it or became moreembodied into what those beliefs
are as time went on.
Alison_Pothier (04:54):
So what was your first I BUlieve, like? Was it
poetic? Was it was a repeat ofthe Bull Durham thing or what
was the process of writing yourown first I BUlieve?
Jules_Williams (05:05):
was a deep oul. I was a very intuitive
oul, but my statement was.. probably not on the side of w
at is my bugbear is today witthe memes of social media an
statements that get said ...
ut rather was, for example, I blieve in Cymru which is Wales
I BUlieve in Wales, but that'sjust a statement. "I BUlieve i
the scrumhalf Pass", I think ws one of my statements I said.
(05:28):
So when I look back on that,had to go and ask myself, is it
a feeling? Is it an emotion?
hich specific window of Wales dI love? So actually, you know,
it becomes, you know, "I BUieve in the ancient Celtic root
of Wales, walking in a Woodshat's been touched since the
dawn of time with that knowldge and wisdom" or is
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t "I BUlieve in standingn top of the Sugarloaf, my loc
l Welsh mountain and feelinghat all encompassing area arou
d". If I went back and viited that now is it "I BUliev
in the scrumhalf pass?",but what does that mean? I'm d
ing this completely on the hop nw but am trying to explain th
process. It would probablye, "I BUlieve in being the archi
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ect of getting that ballut of the scrum as a scrum half
and getting it away quickly to oen up opportunity." ... And then
I could go down a whole differenouevre
Alison_Pothier (06:22):
For myself and I came at making a statement about
what I BUlieve later. IBUlieve in the whole essence of
he idea of needing to taketock and ask ourselves what we
eally believe in. For me, theery first statement that came
o mind when I had to write mywn was, I BUlieve that what we
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elieve matters most in life.
BUlieve that what we belive manifests into reality ... w
at we truly believe, like it hs to be believed in the heart. S
my beliefs were that whatI believe matters the most a
d that ultimately, I reallneed to ask myself that questio
, because that is creating ..
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and if what I'm creating is woking for me, great, but if
what I'm creating isn't workingfor me, I need to look at what
believe that might be creaing that outcome, because I BUl
eve that life is born from theinside out, that what is happ
ning to us is happening though us. And so all of that star
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ed me thinking, gosh, this ireally important. We're living
in a world against a backdrop oimposed belief. There is no
ore factual news. And I'm noture if there ever really was I
mean, there's opinion. Thre was a time in my life where
went over to England. Igot sent over on an assignment
sat in a group of internationl colleagues, Germans and
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Australians and Italians anEnglish and there was a day th
y were mad at me about somethng ... because I was American.
They said, "America showed up lte for the war". Apparently, the
Germans weren't allowed to say aything, but the Americans defini
ely also couldn't. They wereall mad at me for history whic
actually preceded me, but I sid that's really interesting, I
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that what you're taught in schol? I was taught history books
re factual accounts of events anyou're taught history is a fa
tual account of events, bt your history book and my
istory book, they don't say thsame thing. We showed up and
saved everybody, didn't we? Is't that what we were taught? Rea
patriotism? Well done, UA, USA? And they were going, Oh,
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no, no, no, you should read ouristory book. Well, that actual
y is more significant toe as an understanding tha
any in and out of thear itself, because that means
here's opinion in history. Thre's twists, there's spin and
in the spin, that means there'serception and if there's pe
ception, where is perception vesus reality? And who decides
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what that is? It really sent mon a journey of understandi
g that if I don't step back anthink about what I BUlieve i
all of it and my perception ofvents, then what I am creat
ng into the world can be an infuenced perception and not nec
ssarily an actualized one. Andt's really time for me
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to understand that and think abot what world do I want to crea
e?
Jules_Williams (09:25):
And that's the biggest part of when we consider
this as a movement what IBUlieve is what do you believe?
What do I BUlieve? What does thelistener believe truly believe
in, you know, if we look at my IBUlieve, I could read it out
now, exactly the same in termsof I totally BUlieve our
external reality is merely areflection of what's going on
internally. It will completelyreflect what our beliefs are in
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our outside reality. So there'sthe two things What do you
bulieve in? And wow, don'tunderestimate the power of your
beliefs because you are creatinginto your outside world. It's
interesting you talk about aboutthe history books, I wonder Now,
if you look at mainstream media,news, social media, there's
global history being made, thesame narrative is actually being
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given to all which isinteresting in itself. So even
then we were being manipulatedand for want of a better word
and being told a certain historyto believe, whereas now, the
world is.
Alison_Pothier (10:21):
And you're right, it's global. So at the
moment, on a global scale, thenews says fear, and we say,
okay, unless you don't say,okay, or it says, believe this
or believe that and, you know, Iquite like the kickback. I like
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the kickback against thoughtsimposed. I don't necessarily
like the judgement of everybodyelse's beliefs, because I think
that shuts down the freedom ofexpression, which is necessary.
But freedom of expression versusimposing that expression on
everybody else's is, you know,when we're talking about, I
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BUlieve, it's not I BUlieve andtherefore you are x or you are
y. It's just like, no... I'mcurrently believing this thing
and it is manifesting into areality in my life and that's
not working for me - means goback and look at that belief
again, and see how that'sworking for you, and where did
it come from? And who gave it toyou? And where did it start? And
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is that the only possibility foryou, and by not doing it, we're
subjecting ourselves toAgendered belief, imposed
belief. And that moves us awayfrom actualization of the self
and the soul, which I think formyself, I BUlieve is the purpose
of being here. So I find itincredibly important to stop and
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ask ourselves that question likewhy now? because it's most
important now.
Jules_Williams (11:52):
It's never been more. So I literally BUlieve
it's never been as important asit is now to reclaim that
ability. Because it is anability, even 30 years ago, it
was 24. Seven, then. If we fastforward 30 years, this was pre
internet, pre tablets, mobilephones, computers, social
networking, and all of thesethings. And it was still people
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were rushing around hundredmiles an hour, and not taking
the time to take a breath and tosay, 'what is it I truly buliev
in,' and all of us are guiltyf it. And you know, it is part
f the modern world, but statemens are being posted or rattl
d about and told of each othr that we have actually been fe
? Where did I get that belief? Hs it been imposed on me? Has
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t been indoctrinated into me? Hs it been something I've actual
y felt/experienced, and yet, andI love that. I'm gonna own t
at. There's going to be both sids in there, but there's a lot o
us that do get told what toelieve, and perpetuate
hat. Whereas actually, if we tke that time and switch off, a
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d go within, it might not actully reso
Alison_Pothier (13:00):
I think we're talking about discernment. A
client once said to me recently,because I was choosing not to
buy into a certain direction, onthe news. And a lot of people
were in fear as a result offollowing that direction. It
just, I wasn't afraid, I'm justchoosing something different.
And he said, I would love someof your ignorance, just to save
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me from my fear for a day. Andthen he paused. He said, it's
not the right word is it. I saidIt's the opposite of ignorance
actually. It's informationaldiscernment. I know the fear is
it's ignorant. But if I trulycan get behind my beliefs,
there's nothing to fear. And Ican even engage in beliefs and
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safety in a world that's tellingme to be afraid. I can manifest
safety. And I can discernagenda, which is incredibly
important for me to be able todo, because it returns me to my
intuition, and it returns me tothe ability to trust and believe
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in myself. And the I BUlievecomes back to life. I think
that's what you're saying islike, ask yourself, is that
coming not just from others, butis that coming from an emotional
fear of believing? Are youafraid to BUlieve in what you
believe, or afraid not tobelieve in what you BUlieve?
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Like, okay, it came from maybeyour religious background, so if
I don't believe in it, oh, mygosh, what am I going to do now?
Or it came from your parents,oh, I'm going to get rejected,
abandoned, and here's therepercussions in life. It
translates into some prettyheavy repercussions if I don't
believe if I don't follow - ornot. How can you create a new
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belief around your safety inthat.
Jules_Williams (14:50):
That's the beauty I think of going through
the process of unraveling yourown I BUlieve. The beauty is you
start to see the jigsawcomponents that go together with
this, it's like, aah, this is anauthenticity of me, this is an
actualization of me, this is arelease of fear of me, hence the
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opposite. So, you know, it's nocoincidence, I suppose that
fears an acronym that can bemade up as False Evidence
Appearing Real. So if it's falseevidence appearing real, then
it's a false belief that mightbe appearing real in our world,
and we'll make it that way. Butby doing a self investigation to
find out what it is you trulybelieve in, you suddenly get
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fruits of that labor, so tospeak. So you start to recognize
where our abandonments were putin place as a program in us when
we were younger, and starttransmuting those into a self
worth and self love and selfappreciation and self ownership.
So you feel freeer, then to say,you know I actually BUlieve
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this, as opposed to have been,through rhetoric, just rolling
it off the tongue that I BUlievethat. And that's part of the the
joy of going through, I think,the process of finding out your
I BUlieve.
Alison_Pothier (16:10):
I feel there is an emotional freedom that comes
in re connecting with and takingforward your own authentic
beliefs and dropping off theones that aren't working for us.
You will always be right in lifeabout what you believe. It will
always prove true because theheart and the subconscious mind
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will co-create that truth andthat reality for you. We BUlieve
in the power of the subconsciousas the creator within. And we
BUlieve that that will translateout in the world. So you will
always be right. But there'ssome things you don't want to be
right about. Like do you alwayswant to be right about how bad
it's going to be for you? Do youalways want to be right about
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how you're going to fail thatthing that you can question in
yourself that came from somebodyelse that got given to you for
some failing that happened toyou in school at seven years
old, and the teacher tells youyou're a big fat failure and now
that now that truth is playingout. That can be healed, that
can be reconciled, that can becorrected, but it requires
First, the understanding thatyou running the belief in the
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first place. What we're talkingabout is like stage one of a
manifestation process thatchanges the world from the
inside out. We're talking aboutphase one. First, start with an
understanding of what you thinkyou BUlieve. And then move from
there and keep asking, keepasking, do I really where does
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that come from.
Jules_Williams (17:37):
It's almost chipping away, you know, the
cliche of the block of stone andthe model sculptures already in
there. You're just chipping awaythe stone to reveal it. We're
looking for almost like thepoetic statement, the true
heart-centered beliefs of whatwe truly BUlieve in, but you
will uncover in chipping awayall those stones and some of the
ugly bits of rock, old limitingstatements which were actually
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hidden I beliefs like all menare bastards, or, I never get
promoted. I'm always lookedover. The flip side of all the
negatives of those beliefs,which you might have to go
through, and that's a process tostart with, well hang on, is it
time? Should I keep saying, I'mfat? I'm unfit? these things,
because you wouldn't write themdown If you were doing your
poetic statement. I BUlieve I amfat. But you might have to go
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through the swamp of some of ourvery powerful statements, which
- what you're saying earlier on- which I BUlieve implicitly,
our subconscious will go out andcreate in the world, these
statements we say to ourselves.
So it's going to be a doublewin. We can reduce, burn off,
clear, heal - whatever you wantto say to old limiting
statements - as well as get tothe fruits of the heart centered
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beliefs.
Alison_Pothier (18:50):
Yeah, it's a it's a much more private process
than people realize. When we'resitting down, we're asking
ourselves what we truly BUlieveyou start a ball rolling on
something that's a bit of aninternal journey and to come to
something that gets more andmore authentic and is working
better and better for us.
Because sometimes we say weBUlieve something that's not
manifesting at all in our lives,not proving itself true at all.
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So if that's not actually comingout in the world around you, I
BUlieve in peace, but everyone'saround me is war. I'd be looking
at the unrest inside of me. Andreally getting in touch with
that that's co creating intointo the world that I'm judging
something quite harshly inmyself or I'm hiding something
there.
Jules_Williams (19:32):
Bouncing off that when you're saying it is,
and I know we've had thisconversation before. Pre when we
even met, we both recognizedwhen The Secret for example,
became you know, the Zeitgeistat the time. It's like well hang
on. Yes, you can manifest andbring exactly what you want into
your life. But your subconsciouswill bring up the blocks, the
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hurdles, the things you need towork on to get to That. There's
the aspect of that in doing yourI BUlieve, isn't it and doing
your statement, we are going toface the hurdles to be able to
imbue that statement.
Alison_Pothier (20:07):
We haven't talked about this. But both
Jules and I are coaches. We'reboth intuitives. We're also both
filmmakers, and consultants andadvisors to people on change and
transformation. We'restorytellers, helping people
tell better narratives, both bytelling narratives, but also by
coaching people through thenarrative they're telling each
other. So you can probablybetter contextualize why we're
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saying certain things the waywe're saying them. Going through
my own process, The Secret'sout, everybody's reading this
thing and I was well aware atthat point that one can write
down I want, I BUlieve, or thisis available to me now, etc. And
what you're going to get is thetrue script. And in my case, I
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had been internally somewhatprogrammed where anger was a
form of love an I was aspiringto love, relational love, better
love than I had experienced. Andboy was I bringing in angry
people and I was working at thetime. I was studying energy
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psychology, and the lady who wasteaching me was like, you have
this inverted truth, this truebelief, it's 100%, written
inside of you that anger is aform of love. It's just not
working well for you. So itcomes from a story, it has its
history - I knew exactly whatshe was talking about - she was
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absolutely right. And how do youunwind that story? Well, she's
like, well, they're not actuallythe same thing. You know, maybe
look again, and look again, andlook, again. Re-write that
understanding, and then go,manifest love, then go manifest
what you're asking for. So ifwhat you're hoping for in life
has this little underneathbelief that undermines it,
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you're gonna get what underminesthat thing as a full truth right
in front of you.
Jules_Williams (21:57):
I know when we talk about it and when we're
both coaching, or runningworkshops, or retreats is, be it
our emotional, spiritual,intellectual, and physical.
Those four are very bigcomponents of ourselves. So when
we say a statement of belief, itmight sound the most poetic and
the most lovely, and the mostbeautiful, and the most
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enchanting belief because weBUlieve in it. I've many client
over the years where I BUlievein being generous, and I BUlieve
in celebrating other people'sbirthdays, or making that apple
pie for the neighbor. And trulythat isn't a belief deep down to
the soul. Because when you startquestioning it, the well what
about me? Why do they never takecare of my birthday? why do they
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never make me a pie? Andsuddenly it unravels a bit. And
that's, all of what we're sayingis when we come up is sometimes,
to get to what you truly BUlievein, you have to realize what you
no longer need to BUlieve in.
Alison_Pothier (22:53):
You mean, you no longer have to make apple pies?
Jules_Williams (22:55):
You can do it because you genuinely,
unconditionally can make thatapple pie without any
expectation of a return favor.
Alison_Pothier (23:03):
Yeah, what you're trying to say is just,
make sure you're not making theapple pie in order to be loved
and not abandoned. If you'rehappy to do it, because it's
just something you are doing andit has no need for some other
tie, you're good.
Jules_Williams (23:19):
I'm using the apple pie to say, you know, any
of those archetypes that we see.
And when we clear (23:22):
mothering the mother, the need to be needed
the being of massive value toeveryone else, because we're
trying to fill a hole inside I'mgetting that returned - told
through the apple pie.
Alison_Pothier (23:37):
One of the things that brought up the
podcast was that actually durinthe interviews for our BUogra
hies series, most of them trned around and said, You do re
lize this is a whole process youhave put us through and in fact
you could run a whole progrm on this process is what w
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saw happen. And what they saw hppen. We thought, okay, we're go
ng to do this series, and i's going to show how people thro
gh their life stories andhe things that happened to th
m, and the beliefs they framd, created this life. This is
hat they've done with thoseeliefs. And people had some
eally deep stories to tellbout what framed what they
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Ulieve in now, but when wepened up the floor for an
nterview and thankfully hadn'turned the cameras on because I
hink they'd have frozen evenore - they froze. You can't lea
with what do you BUlieveEverybody got agh - they choke.
So we ended up learning thathe most important thing was j
st Where did you come from? Wha's your background? What were
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those influences? What did theyave to say? what'd you take fro
that? etc. And then we wrote thir I BUlieve from what we heard
them say, and then they debatedt. And even when we turned t
e camera on for them to actuallyfinally present what they the
could own, their mouth still ddn't necessarily state it. Bec
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use they could see this person itheir eyes or that person i
their eyes saying, Do yoreally? or are you allowed t
say that? and so it became a haling process, even with the
cameras on and we said, you kno, something, it would take ev
ry single one of us includingurselves that same process, and
ven after it was recorded, we'still be asking ourselves, do
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I really BUlieve that. But whawe watched is everyone who
ot very clear, had extraordinaryrepercussions follow those
ideos. So in fact, what they staed evolved into an even bigger r
ality for them.
Jules_Williams (25:48):
We actually got to witness I suppose that energy
in motion, didn't we?They wentthrough a process, they stated
it out into the world, and thatenergy in motion made changes,
changes that they weren'tprepared for. The whole essence
of that comes to what we saidright at the very start is -
there is a real power in wordsand our emotional statement of
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those words. The terminology ofyou know, energy in motion
emotion. So if we state wordwith emotion, they do have
real power. And that's what Aand I are talking about - why i
's so important in this periodof time, to reclaim your langu
ge and to reclaim your statemets of what it is you BUlieve in
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or all of us. Because so many ofus are being told what to say. W
're having words put intoour mouths. That's a whole r
cky road for us to go down - conrol for want of a better word
r a dis-ownership of our own seves or a lack of our intuition.
hat a perfect time to reclaimhat so that all our words are sp
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ken from an authenticityand an own
Alison_Pothier (26:58):
They resonate as our own truth. (Yeah.) And when
everybody is in their own truth,effectively, you become the
puzzle piece you're here to be.
We're all here to resonate withthe actualized self, the part of
us that is intended to be andbecome and express itself out
into the world. Most of whichhas been layered on top of and
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dummied down and twisted intotrying to get everybody to be
the same puzzle piece stacked ontop of each other so we never
can design the picture we'rehere to co-create in this world.
But the more you come back toyour own story, your own
beliefs, your own truth, yourown expression of yourself which
generally actually amplifiesinto a loving expression of
itself in the world. It canconnect with other people who
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are doing the same and co createand co collaborate into what is
actually here to manifest andactualize into the world becomes
very important. We talk aboutthis as set beliefs. People also
talk about mind, you know, it'sin the mind, let's get mind
exercises, let's get your mindaround this and we think no -
beliefs come from the heart. Themind follows in fact, it has to
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add up and accept them, thebeliefs, they're truths, they
got defined, as soon as wepopped out into this planet, if
not - for those of you who cango there - before... and brought
in with you. But those beliefshave been being unwound and
shifted and changed and impactedby the world around with a whole
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journey back to the authenticversion of you. Which is why I
BUlieve has be you in it. You'reprobably wondering why we're
saying be you in it because wespell I BUlieve, for the
purposes of this program is I BU...lieve.
Jules_Williams (28:43):
Sometimes we skip over the big soul journey.
But we also like confrontingthat head on and whether you do
believe in the soul, I BUlievethat I BUlieve in the soul. That
is one of my beliefs. But ifwhether you believe in it or
not, there is in our DNA we callit familial lines. So you've got
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definitely within your own DNA,some of granddad's story or
great granddad's story or greatgreat great granddad's story or
great great grandmother's story,etc. So whichever way you look
at it, you know, the world hasgone through a patriarchal
fearful, fire and brimstonecourse of religion, for example.
(29:24):
So we might be born into thislife with the most spiritually
nourishing denomination orchurch or even just a spiritual
life that we're living. But thatdoesn't mean to say that there
could be a very deep rootedanger or a frustration or a
feeling of being abandoned byGod for want of a better word. I
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say that because everyone mighthave many different words for
God, or even a higher source ora higher self, whichever way you
want to go. But it's funny thatwhether you call it a past life
or whether you call it just DNApassed down from, you know, your
great grandparents We do bringthese beliefs with us the second
we pop into the world as well.
They might not be as obvious tous because we didn't go through
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a physical experience in thislife, that we can remember, we
can relate to, we can go backand heal, we can go back and
clear. (Yeah,) but it'ssomething we brought with us
from a past life that takes abit more unearthing if you know
what I mean.
Alison_Pothier (30:22):
I think it's clear though, what you're saying
is, at the end of the day, ourbeliefs are things that frame
our existence. They have been inus, not necessarily consciously,
from the beginning. And when westart to try to articulate our
beliefs, we tend to start withthe surface, I BUlieve that
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party/person should win and thatone should lose. Okay, well,
that's fair enough. Start there,start on the surface. And then
ask and then ask and ask, Wheredid that come from? And there
will be beliefs where you don'tknow. But it's okay in that
scenario, you don't need tonecessarily know where it comes
from the analysis of it. But youcan ask yourself, whether it's
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working for you, and what theprocess is, in letting that go.
What have you got to lose inevolving into a new one? Are you
afraid that the new one willfail you? Are you afraid that
the old one is the only outcomeor opportunity? It's a healing
process. We're living in a worldwhich is blame, name, shame.
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It's project out ,rather thanevolve from within and transform
from from the inside out. Andit's not working for us because
it's in denial of, and lackingaccountability, for the
Co-creation, and thecollaboration of everything we
see. We're involved. But if weevolve, we can evolve and
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transform what we're seeing. Butit has to be through self
accountability, rather thanname, shame, blame, look within
if it's out there.
Jules_Williams (31:58):
The whole construct almost of political
correctness, if you look at iton one level is to reduce our
vocabulary, to reduce ourability to have a voice, to
reduce our ability to state abelief. Whereas that's not what
I BUlieve is all about. Forexample, when we talked there
about this party or that party,when you deep dive it you go
well, actually, what do IBUlieve? And then you keep
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questioning it? And you questionagain, then question again. It
will only then go deeper to ourown investigation, or
actualization that we're after.
So really it will come out, IBUlieve in authenticity, I
BUlieve in honesty ofhumanitarianism. And there'll be
qualities that you would like tosee in a person in a particular
party, whereas politicalcorrectness would want to take
you down the fear based side,the reductive statement of life
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side, to shut you down, asopposed to our own spiritual and
human essence of ourselves. Andthat would come out by asking,
even if it's a racist statement,if it's a feminist statement, if
it's a sexuality statement, allof those ones that are always
punishable and negative words.
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That isn't what I BUlieve wouldcome anyway, from our own heart,
it comes down to the humanityand spirituality trying to be
shoehorned into this conflict,this duality this two way of
thinking. It's not even one wayof thinking, it's two ways.
Let's create conflict, thenarrative is trying to be
written that way, and beliefsare being imposed on us. And
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it's almost like, take back ourbeliefs, you know, that that
should be the March, take backmy own belief, you know, for
ourselves.
Alison_Pothier (33:32):
Take back, myself.
Is take backbeing you in the world. Take
Jules_Williams (33:35):
Myself, yeah.
back the ability and the freedomof self expression. Not imposed
expression, self expression. Theversion of you that's you. We
talk about diversity inorganizations and things like
that and organizations havetalked about, you know, how to
classify people in order toserve them better which is
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actually undiverse. We're nottalking about classification of
beliefs, the acceptability ofbeliefs. We're talking about a
human journey. Everybody notclassifying You know, this
versus that, there's nopolarization, it's all an AND
existence. It all is okay. Whatif all of you could be loved and
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accepted? What if 100% of thehuman version of yourself in all
of its bumps and bruises can beaccepted, that's what we're
working on. And I BUlieve that'sthe goal is the ability to say
that I matter in all ways andhave that reflected back at me
in the world. And so any beliefundermining that inside of me
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should be looked at andreconciled. Not blaming the worl
and telling it it needs to chnge but taking myself through
hat it is I don't really beleve about my own self worth th
t's emanating that in the worldand creating a reflection back a
me of le It's endemic outin the world at the moment. The
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rage, the fear, the anger, theblame. The negativity, it's a pe
fect storm of all those neative emotions, which means al
of us, every single one of usin some form or co creating th
t because exactly what you're sying there. We haven't fully re
onciled ourselves to love andacceptance to the deepest
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art of our marrow. And so whatetter place to start is okay, th
external judgments and rage - bit the keyboard warrior to the
placard blamer - it's just fuelng, in our outside world that
we're all seeing, and whats going on externally. So to t
ke that breath and go, okaywhere is that disc
mbobulation within me? What layes are getting in the way of me i
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ternally to get to that loveand acceptance.
Alison_Pothier (35:47):
Like you says it's fueling in the world around
us as fires rage everywher, it is fueling fire. It's f
eling rage. And every time wsay I don't love that person
I don't love that in the world.
We're saying I don't love that ime. And I wouldn't accept
that in me, I wouldn't find tat acceptable in me. Okay.
o therefore, you're livinginternally in a polarized existe
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ce within yourself and creatig a polarized existence in the
world. Where does that come fom? Who told you that's right,
that's wrong, that's good,hat's bad. that's accept
ble, that's not. This is why tis is the beginning of a large
journey. And then this is why te people who had to do their
stories at the beginning said,Oh, my goodness, what I've had t
go through to come to eventate this much and I know I'll c
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ange it right after I walk aay, but what I've said here i
beautiful within me and is a tuth within me so far. It's
rue, you know, we've seen whatot produced from that creat
on, on the other side, fromo many beautiful hearts worki
g so hard to be able to makehose statements. And we decid
d on the basis of that, not othe basis of the judgment of th
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world around our own selve, but as an invitation to help
nyone else who's intersted in that. Jules and I, we ar
coaches. So if people listeing do feel that they they'
e aware enough of the conflct within or the desire to trans
orm their own worlds, theirown existences and you're feelin
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a little bit stuck, you can rech out to Jules at his website
he's www.JulesWilliams.
om and I'm Alison Pothier, ww.Alison Pothier.com. You
can see that written in theotes for the episode. And you
(37:35):
ust write to us and say, Hey, lstened to your podcasts. And
e'll give you 10% off on a coching session, if you lik
. We are also planning to helppeople work out your I BUli
ve statement Jules you want to tlk about that?
Jules_Williams (37:59):
If I say I've condensed of what we have been
talking about is to open thatdoor for self investigation to
find out what each individualbelieves we are gonna go thr
ugh that process of starting thequestioning. Starting to turn th
page internally and write thse beliefs and to start the in
estigation of those beliefs. Iuse that word a lot because
hat is actually what it is. W're going to do a self invest
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gation, a self deep dive, a sef unfolding to say what it is b
t framed obviously purely byhat is it I truly BUlieve in
And then once we startetting that out the question o
the question on the questionn the question, do I belie
e that? Where did that belief cme from? Was I given that be
ief? Do I truly believe tht? Am I fearful that I'll be to
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d off if I don't believe thatnymore? Why do I believe tha
? Yes, I believe that becauseI went through it physically an
it shaped me. No, I don't belive that anymore because some
ne battered it into me for sevn years of childhood as a
belief. No, I don't beliee it any longer and let that go.
That'll be the process. That'l get us going. And we're going
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o give you time to write it outand to start framing that statem
nt of beliefs that you can truy own and love owning those wi
hin you.
Alison_Pothier (39:25):
So part one will be getting to the ability to
even have an outline of astatement. It doesn't have to be
the end statement. Really, it'sthe beginning one ... and part
two, if that really motivatesyou would be to start honing in
on that and starting the processwith that to get it working for
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you so that your world can starttransforming to what you hope it
to be, hope it to look like,want it to be a statement of...
It would be wonderful if, atsome point, you loved your I
BUlieve so much you'd frame it.
One of the things about ourplatform we're hoping for is
obviously to continue to buildcontent to support everybody who
is trying to work their wayback, be that through programs,
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stories, narratives or podcasts,and also a movement. So at some
point, you know, when people areready, we just start sharing and
inspiring. At the end of everyvisual story, the person throws
out the challenge. Now it's yourturn, what do you BUlieve?
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That's where we're at in thispodcast, we want to come to that
challenge for you. Now, it'syour turn. What do you BUlieve.
We've shared a lot today aboutwhat we BUlieve. We'd like to
challenge anybody listening tothis podcast, to stop even for
an hour today, or 15 minutes orfive minutes and say, do I
actually believe that thing I'vebeen believing all this time?
Jules_Williams (41:00):
But that's the beauty that's come out of our
process of going through it andour sharing of that process is -
we can revisit and hone andrecreate our I BUlieve, for the
rest of our life. It's a tool.
And it's a tool of almost ourlifetime's work of
self-actualization tools formedthrough an I BUlieve statement
for ourselves. People getworried, like I said, on two
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points, one, when they start tosay it, they have to truly own
those words. So hence, there'stheir hesitation. And two, they
think you're going to pick upthe pen and suddenly there's
going to be a work ofShakespeare out there of what
you believe in that's, that'sdone for good. It's a process.
It is definitely one of thosewhere it's a journey as well as
a destination and that's the joyof it. To take that pressure
off ourselves and to say (41:45):
I'm going start with one belief, I
BUlieve in this do I believe inthat? Where does it come from?
What's the flip side of thatbelief. And before you know it,
you've taken some time foryourself, you've come out of the
fray of the noise that's out inthe world and are reconnecting
with yourself, your discernment,your intuition. And in essence,
if you want to call it that -your soul.
Alison_Pothier (42:08):
To bring some closure to our conversation
today, would it be helpful if wepublished our I BUlieve
statements onto the website sopeople could go there and have a
look and see on I bulieve.com,so www I bulieve.com.
Jules_Williams (42:26):
And that's bulieve... BU.
Alison_Pothier (42:28):
Yeah, I BU...lieve. You can go there,
you can have a look at our ownbeliefs. You can have a look at
our background, you can look atthe stories, the BUographies
that we did that we're referringto and see how those guys ended
up making the statements oftheir beliefs in their little
seven minute episodes. Theirvisual stories. If you do
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connect with us there and you'reinterested in a one on one
process to put your I BUlievetogether just write to us on
that contact page, quote thispodcast and we'll turn that into
a one on one coaching sessionfor you for how you can start
down the road for yourselfreconciling and framing beliefs
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that work for you and the worldaround you. That's our goal. Our
goal is to challenge youNow it's your turn. As Al said
earlier on. What do you BUlieve?
We are living in a world that doesn't really
fully know what we believeanymore or aren't really ready
to commit that to the rest ofthe world based on you know,
maybe social media kickbacks andappropriateness and political
correctness and and wonderingwhether our beliefs really stick
so we said let's do our firstpodcast on where I BUlieve came
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from, why it matters, what canbe gained from stopping and
asking ourselves that question,"What's the power of belief?"
Jules_Williams (01:02):
This is the brand new podcast from husband
and wife team, Alison Pothierand Jules Williams,
Alison_Pothier (01:07):
Podcasting from the BU in the heart of Malibu. I
BUlieve means B and believe inU. For those who have followed
our I BUlieve visual series,you'll know that we've been
hosting characters withinMalibu, but all of the episodes
that we have been doing lead outof and back to one thing: the
ability to be and believe in youin the world and the ability to
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embrace what we believe as theway we frame our lives ... how
our beliefs frame our lives orwhy our beliefs even matter in
framing our life. It is a globalcontext for what I BUlieve is
about and it's taken us a littlebit of time to start to build
the platform to reflect what itis we always intended for it
(01:53):
which was to tell stories and toshare insights that help people
reflect on what it is we trulybelieve, remember what it is we
truly believe and reconnect withthat so our worlds reflect a
little bit more of our ownbeliefs rather than those being
imposed on us. We decided tohost a podcast right now to get
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us started. Because we feelthere's a program and there's a
time in the world where peopleare ready and in need of
remembering what it is we trulybelieve.
Jules_Williams (02:25):
I know there's three things there at the
beginning (02:27):
Our external reality is in Malibu, that's where we
live, that's what we see everyday in nature, that's where we
interact so there's the BUcomponent. And, as Al said
earlier on, the BU is also "Band believe in U", as well as
the 'believing' itself (02:41):
What do you Bulieve? It's so easy to say
what do you believe in, but whatwe discovered in filming our
ongoing visual mini docu-seriesis that it doesn't just roll off
the tongue. When we speak words,when we write things down, we
are giving birth to somethingand that means we're also owning
it. On very simple terms, it'swhy people say, with an
affirmation or a vision (03:04):
say it, state it, write it down. You're
giving birth.
Alison_Pothier (03:11):
And maybe the best place to start before we
talk too much about the processand the program is Jules why
don't you talk a little bitabout how how long the statement
I BUlieve has been in your mindand where it came from?
Jules_Williams (03:23):
At the age I was at - I was in college, late 80s,
I was about 20 and watched thefilm Bull Durham. There is a
very specific scene in therewhere he gets asked by Susan
Sarandon's character, and hisname's Crash as a character in
the film and it's like, well"what do you believe in Crash?"
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expecting him not to be able toanswer or catching him on the
hop. And he goes straight intoa monologue of certain things
that he believes in. It's inwatching that that you can
almost tangibly feel orexperience some of the things
he's believing and it shapedhim. He goes, "I believe in the
soul. I believe in the hangingcurveball, high fivers, good
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scotch, that the novels of SusanSontag are self indulgent
overrated crap. I believe LeeHarvey Oswald acted alone. There
should be a constitutionalamendment outlawing astroturf
and the designated hitter. ... "Already there's a few references
in there that are showing he isa purist with baseball if he
believes there should be anamendment against the designated
hitter. So you're starting tosee 'that's interesting'. And
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you know, who's Susan Sontag? Ididn't know she was I had to go
look it up and it's okay, so hestands on the fence that it's
self indulgent over rated crap,and it was real passion and
statement of ownership. Rightfrom that day, I would always
check in with myself and writemy own I believe, "What do I
believe?" and of course thatevolves as I have evolved myself
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or owned it or became moreembodied into what those beliefs
are as time went on.
Alison_Pothier (04:54):
So what was your first I BUlieve, like? Was it
poetic? Was it was a repeat ofthe Bull Durham thing or what
was the process of writing yourown first I BUlieve?
Jules_Williams (05:05):
was a deep oul. I was a very intuitive
oul, but my statement was.. probably not on the side of w
at is my bugbear is today witthe memes of social media an
statements that get said ...
ut rather was, for example, I blieve in Cymru which is Wales
I BUlieve in Wales, but that'sjust a statement. "I BUlieve i
the scrumhalf Pass", I think ws one of my statements I said.
(05:28):
So when I look back on that,had to go and ask myself, is it
a feeling? Is it an emotion?
hich specific window of Wales dI love? So actually, you know,
it becomes, you know, "I BUieve in the ancient Celtic root
of Wales, walking in a Woodshat's been touched since the
dawn of time with that knowldge and wisdom" or is
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t "I BUlieve in standingn top of the Sugarloaf, my loc
l Welsh mountain and feelinghat all encompassing area arou
d". If I went back and viited that now is it "I BUliev
in the scrumhalf pass?",but what does that mean? I'm d
ing this completely on the hop nw but am trying to explain th
process. It would probablye, "I BUlieve in being the archi
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ect of getting that ballut of the scrum as a scrum half
and getting it away quickly to oen up opportunity." ... And then
I could go down a whole differenouevre
Alison_Pothier (06:22):
For myself and I came at making a statement about
what I BUlieve later. IBUlieve in the whole essence of
he idea of needing to taketock and ask ourselves what we
eally believe in. For me, theery first statement that came
o mind when I had to write mywn was, I BUlieve that what we
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elieve matters most in life.
BUlieve that what we belive manifests into reality ... w
at we truly believe, like it hs to be believed in the heart. S
my beliefs were that whatI believe matters the most a
d that ultimately, I reallneed to ask myself that questio
, because that is creating ..
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and if what I'm creating is woking for me, great, but if
what I'm creating isn't workingfor me, I need to look at what
believe that might be creaing that outcome, because I BUl
eve that life is born from theinside out, that what is happ
ning to us is happening though us. And so all of that star
(07:24):
ed me thinking, gosh, this ireally important. We're living
in a world against a backdrop oimposed belief. There is no
ore factual news. And I'm noture if there ever really was I
mean, there's opinion. Thre was a time in my life where
went over to England. Igot sent over on an assignment
sat in a group of internationl colleagues, Germans and
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Australians and Italians anEnglish and there was a day th
y were mad at me about somethng ... because I was American.
They said, "America showed up lte for the war". Apparently, the
Germans weren't allowed to say aything, but the Americans defini
ely also couldn't. They wereall mad at me for history whic
actually preceded me, but I sid that's really interesting, I
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that what you're taught in schol? I was taught history books
re factual accounts of events anyou're taught history is a fa
tual account of events, bt your history book and my
istory book, they don't say thsame thing. We showed up and
saved everybody, didn't we? Is't that what we were taught? Rea
patriotism? Well done, UA, USA? And they were going, Oh,
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no, no, no, you should read ouristory book. Well, that actual
y is more significant toe as an understanding tha
any in and out of thear itself, because that means
here's opinion in history. Thre's twists, there's spin and
in the spin, that means there'serception and if there's pe
ception, where is perception vesus reality? And who decides
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what that is? It really sent mon a journey of understandi
g that if I don't step back anthink about what I BUlieve i
all of it and my perception ofvents, then what I am creat
ng into the world can be an infuenced perception and not nec
ssarily an actualized one. Andt's really time for me
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to understand that and think abot what world do I want to crea
e?
Jules_Williams (09:25):
And that's the biggest part of when we consider
this as a movement what IBUlieve is what do you believe?
What do I BUlieve? What does thelistener believe truly believe
in, you know, if we look at my IBUlieve, I could read it out
now, exactly the same in termsof I totally BUlieve our
external reality is merely areflection of what's going on
internally. It will completelyreflect what our beliefs are in
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our outside reality. So there'sthe two things What do you
bulieve in? And wow, don'tunderestimate the power of your
beliefs because you are creatinginto your outside world. It's
interesting you talk about aboutthe history books, I wonder Now,
if you look at mainstream media,news, social media, there's
global history being made, thesame narrative is actually being
(10:09):
given to all which isinteresting in itself. So even
then we were being manipulatedand for want of a better word
and being told a certain historyto believe, whereas now, the
world is.
Alison_Pothier (10:21):
And you're right, it's global. So at the
moment, on a global scale, thenews says fear, and we say,
okay, unless you don't say,okay, or it says, believe this
or believe that and, you know, Iquite like the kickback. I like
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the kickback against thoughtsimposed. I don't necessarily
like the judgement of everybodyelse's beliefs, because I think
that shuts down the freedom ofexpression, which is necessary.
But freedom of expression versusimposing that expression on
everybody else's is, you know,when we're talking about, I
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BUlieve, it's not I BUlieve andtherefore you are x or you are
y. It's just like, no... I'mcurrently believing this thing
and it is manifesting into areality in my life and that's
not working for me - means goback and look at that belief
again, and see how that'sworking for you, and where did
it come from? And who gave it toyou? And where did it start? And
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is that the only possibility foryou, and by not doing it, we're
subjecting ourselves toAgendered belief, imposed
belief. And that moves us awayfrom actualization of the self
and the soul, which I think formyself, I BUlieve is the purpose
of being here. So I find itincredibly important to stop and
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ask ourselves that question likewhy now? because it's most
important now.
Jules_Williams (11:52):
It's never been more. So I literally BUlieve
it's never been as important asit is now to reclaim that
ability. Because it is anability, even 30 years ago, it
was 24. Seven, then. If we fastforward 30 years, this was pre
internet, pre tablets, mobilephones, computers, social
networking, and all of thesethings. And it was still people
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were rushing around hundredmiles an hour, and not taking
the time to take a breath and tosay, 'what is it I truly buliev
in,' and all of us are guiltyf it. And you know, it is part
f the modern world, but statemens are being posted or rattl
d about and told of each othr that we have actually been fe
? Where did I get that belief? Hs it been imposed on me? Has
(12:36):
t been indoctrinated into me? Hs it been something I've actual
y felt/experienced, and yet, andI love that. I'm gonna own t
at. There's going to be both sids in there, but there's a lot o
us that do get told what toelieve, and perpetuate
hat. Whereas actually, if we tke that time and switch off, a
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d go within, it might not actully reso
Alison_Pothier (13:00):
I think we're talking about discernment. A
client once said to me recently,because I was choosing not to
buy into a certain direction, onthe news. And a lot of people
were in fear as a result offollowing that direction. It
just, I wasn't afraid, I'm justchoosing something different.
And he said, I would love someof your ignorance, just to save
(13:22):
me from my fear for a day. Andthen he paused. He said, it's
not the right word is it. I saidIt's the opposite of ignorance
actually. It's informationaldiscernment. I know the fear is
it's ignorant. But if I trulycan get behind my beliefs,
there's nothing to fear. And Ican even engage in beliefs and
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safety in a world that's tellingme to be afraid. I can manifest
safety. And I can discernagenda, which is incredibly
important for me to be able todo, because it returns me to my
intuition, and it returns me tothe ability to trust and believe
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in myself. And the I BUlievecomes back to life. I think
that's what you're saying islike, ask yourself, is that
coming not just from others, butis that coming from an emotional
fear of believing? Are youafraid to BUlieve in what you
believe, or afraid not tobelieve in what you BUlieve?
(14:28):
Like, okay, it came from maybeyour religious background, so if
I don't believe in it, oh, mygosh, what am I going to do now?
Or it came from your parents,oh, I'm going to get rejected,
abandoned, and here's therepercussions in life. It
translates into some prettyheavy repercussions if I don't
believe if I don't follow - ornot. How can you create a new
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belief around your safety inthat.
Jules_Williams (14:50):
That's the beauty I think of going through
the process of unraveling yourown I BUlieve. The beauty is you
start to see the jigsawcomponents that go together with
this, it's like, aah, this is anauthenticity of me, this is an
actualization of me, this is arelease of fear of me, hence the
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opposite. So, you know, it's nocoincidence, I suppose that
fears an acronym that can bemade up as False Evidence
Appearing Real. So if it's falseevidence appearing real, then
it's a false belief that mightbe appearing real in our world,
and we'll make it that way. Butby doing a self investigation to
find out what it is you trulybelieve in, you suddenly get
(15:34):
fruits of that labor, so tospeak. So you start to recognize
where our abandonments were putin place as a program in us when
we were younger, and starttransmuting those into a self
worth and self love and selfappreciation and self ownership.
So you feel freeer, then to say,you know I actually BUlieve
(15:55):
this, as opposed to have been,through rhetoric, just rolling
it off the tongue that I BUlievethat. And that's part of the the
joy of going through, I think,the process of finding out your
I BUlieve.
Alison_Pothier (16:10):
I feel there is an emotional freedom that comes
in re connecting with and takingforward your own authentic
beliefs and dropping off theones that aren't working for us.
You will always be right in lifeabout what you believe. It will
always prove true because theheart and the subconscious mind
(16:32):
will co-create that truth andthat reality for you. We BUlieve
in the power of the subconsciousas the creator within. And we
BUlieve that that will translateout in the world. So you will
always be right. But there'ssome things you don't want to be
right about. Like do you alwayswant to be right about how bad
it's going to be for you? Do youalways want to be right about
(16:53):
how you're going to fail thatthing that you can question in
yourself that came from somebodyelse that got given to you for
some failing that happened toyou in school at seven years
old, and the teacher tells youyou're a big fat failure and now
that now that truth is playingout. That can be healed, that
can be reconciled, that can becorrected, but it requires
First, the understanding thatyou running the belief in the
(17:15):
first place. What we're talkingabout is like stage one of a
manifestation process thatchanges the world from the
inside out. We're talking aboutphase one. First, start with an
understanding of what you thinkyou BUlieve. And then move from
there and keep asking, keepasking, do I really where does
(17:36):
that come from.
Jules_Williams (17:37):
It's almost chipping away, you know, the
cliche of the block of stone andthe model sculptures already in
there. You're just chipping awaythe stone to reveal it. We're
looking for almost like thepoetic statement, the true
heart-centered beliefs of whatwe truly BUlieve in, but you
will uncover in chipping awayall those stones and some of the
ugly bits of rock, old limitingstatements which were actually
(18:00):
hidden I beliefs like all menare bastards, or, I never get
promoted. I'm always lookedover. The flip side of all the
negatives of those beliefs,which you might have to go
through, and that's a process tostart with, well hang on, is it
time? Should I keep saying, I'mfat? I'm unfit? these things,
because you wouldn't write themdown If you were doing your
poetic statement. I BUlieve I amfat. But you might have to go
(18:24):
through the swamp of some of ourvery powerful statements, which
- what you're saying earlier on- which I BUlieve implicitly,
our subconscious will go out andcreate in the world, these
statements we say to ourselves.
So it's going to be a doublewin. We can reduce, burn off,
clear, heal - whatever you wantto say to old limiting
statements - as well as get tothe fruits of the heart centered
(18:46):
beliefs.
Alison_Pothier (18:50):
Yeah, it's a it's a much more private process
than people realize. When we'resitting down, we're asking
ourselves what we truly BUlieveyou start a ball rolling on
something that's a bit of aninternal journey and to come to
something that gets more andmore authentic and is working
better and better for us.
Because sometimes we say weBUlieve something that's not
manifesting at all in our lives,not proving itself true at all.
(19:12):
So if that's not actually comingout in the world around you, I
BUlieve in peace, but everyone'saround me is war. I'd be looking
at the unrest inside of me. Andreally getting in touch with
that that's co creating intointo the world that I'm judging
something quite harshly inmyself or I'm hiding something
there.
Jules_Williams (19:32):
Bouncing off that when you're saying it is,
and I know we've had thisconversation before. Pre when we
even met, we both recognizedwhen The Secret for example,
became you know, the Zeitgeistat the time. It's like well hang
on. Yes, you can manifest andbring exactly what you want into
your life. But your subconsciouswill bring up the blocks, the
(19:56):
hurdles, the things you need towork on to get to That. There's
the aspect of that in doing yourI BUlieve, isn't it and doing
your statement, we are going toface the hurdles to be able to
imbue that statement.
Alison_Pothier (20:07):
We haven't talked about this. But both
Jules and I are coaches. We'reboth intuitives. We're also both
filmmakers, and consultants andadvisors to people on change and
transformation. We'restorytellers, helping people
tell better narratives, both bytelling narratives, but also by
coaching people through thenarrative they're telling each
other. So you can probablybetter contextualize why we're
(20:29):
saying certain things the waywe're saying them. Going through
my own process, The Secret'sout, everybody's reading this
thing and I was well aware atthat point that one can write
down I want, I BUlieve, or thisis available to me now, etc. And
what you're going to get is thetrue script. And in my case, I
(20:50):
had been internally somewhatprogrammed where anger was a
form of love an I was aspiringto love, relational love, better
love than I had experienced. Andboy was I bringing in angry
people and I was working at thetime. I was studying energy
(21:11):
psychology, and the lady who wasteaching me was like, you have
this inverted truth, this truebelief, it's 100%, written
inside of you that anger is aform of love. It's just not
working well for you. So itcomes from a story, it has its
history - I knew exactly whatshe was talking about - she was
(21:31):
absolutely right. And how do youunwind that story? Well, she's
like, well, they're not actuallythe same thing. You know, maybe
look again, and look again, andlook, again. Re-write that
understanding, and then go,manifest love, then go manifest
what you're asking for. So ifwhat you're hoping for in life
has this little underneathbelief that undermines it,
(21:53):
you're gonna get what underminesthat thing as a full truth right
in front of you.
Jules_Williams (21:57):
I know when we talk about it and when we're
both coaching, or runningworkshops, or retreats is, be it
our emotional, spiritual,intellectual, and physical.
Those four are very bigcomponents of ourselves. So when
we say a statement of belief, itmight sound the most poetic and
the most lovely, and the mostbeautiful, and the most
(22:18):
enchanting belief because weBUlieve in it. I've many client
over the years where I BUlievein being generous, and I BUlieve
in celebrating other people'sbirthdays, or making that apple
pie for the neighbor. And trulythat isn't a belief deep down to
the soul. Because when you startquestioning it, the well what
about me? Why do they never takecare of my birthday? why do they
(22:40):
never make me a pie? Andsuddenly it unravels a bit. And
that's, all of what we're sayingis when we come up is sometimes,
to get to what you truly BUlievein, you have to realize what you
no longer need to BUlieve in.
Alison_Pothier (22:53):
You mean, you no longer have to make apple pies?
Jules_Williams (22:55):
You can do it because you genuinely,
unconditionally can make thatapple pie without any
expectation of a return favor.
Alison_Pothier (23:03):
Yeah, what you're trying to say is just,
make sure you're not making theapple pie in order to be loved
and not abandoned. If you'rehappy to do it, because it's
just something you are doing andit has no need for some other
tie, you're good.
Jules_Williams (23:19):
I'm using the apple pie to say, you know, any
of those archetypes that we see.
And when we clear (23:22):
mothering the mother, the need to be needed
the being of massive value toeveryone else, because we're
trying to fill a hole inside I'mgetting that returned - told
through the apple pie.
Alison_Pothier (23:37):
One of the things that brought up the
podcast was that actually durinthe interviews for our BUogra
hies series, most of them trned around and said, You do re
lize this is a whole process youhave put us through and in fact
you could run a whole progrm on this process is what w
(24:00):
saw happen. And what they saw hppen. We thought, okay, we're go
ng to do this series, and i's going to show how people thro
gh their life stories andhe things that happened to th
m, and the beliefs they framd, created this life. This is
hat they've done with thoseeliefs. And people had some
eally deep stories to tellbout what framed what they
(24:24):
Ulieve in now, but when wepened up the floor for an
nterview and thankfully hadn'turned the cameras on because I
hink they'd have frozen evenore - they froze. You can't lea
with what do you BUlieveEverybody got agh - they choke.
So we ended up learning thathe most important thing was j
st Where did you come from? Wha's your background? What were
(24:45):
those influences? What did theyave to say? what'd you take fro
that? etc. And then we wrote thir I BUlieve from what we heard
them say, and then they debatedt. And even when we turned t
e camera on for them to actuallyfinally present what they the
could own, their mouth still ddn't necessarily state it. Bec
(25:08):
use they could see this person itheir eyes or that person i
their eyes saying, Do yoreally? or are you allowed t
say that? and so it became a haling process, even with the
cameras on and we said, you kno, something, it would take ev
ry single one of us includingurselves that same process, and
ven after it was recorded, we'still be asking ourselves, do
(25:29):
I really BUlieve that. But whawe watched is everyone who
ot very clear, had extraordinaryrepercussions follow those
ideos. So in fact, what they staed evolved into an even bigger r
ality for them.
Jules_Williams (25:48):
We actually got to witness I suppose that energy
in motion, didn't we?They wentthrough a process, they stated
it out into the world, and thatenergy in motion made changes,
changes that they weren'tprepared for. The whole essence
of that comes to what we saidright at the very start is -
there is a real power in wordsand our emotional statement of
(26:11):
those words. The terminology ofyou know, energy in motion
emotion. So if we state wordwith emotion, they do have
real power. And that's what Aand I are talking about - why i
's so important in this periodof time, to reclaim your langu
ge and to reclaim your statemets of what it is you BUlieve in
(26:33):
or all of us. Because so many ofus are being told what to say. W
're having words put intoour mouths. That's a whole r
cky road for us to go down - conrol for want of a better word
r a dis-ownership of our own seves or a lack of our intuition.
hat a perfect time to reclaimhat so that all our words are sp
(26:55):
ken from an authenticityand an own
Alison_Pothier (26:58):
They resonate as our own truth. (Yeah.) And when
everybody is in their own truth,effectively, you become the
puzzle piece you're here to be.
We're all here to resonate withthe actualized self, the part of
us that is intended to be andbecome and express itself out
into the world. Most of whichhas been layered on top of and
(27:19):
dummied down and twisted intotrying to get everybody to be
the same puzzle piece stacked ontop of each other so we never
can design the picture we'rehere to co-create in this world.
But the more you come back toyour own story, your own
beliefs, your own truth, yourown expression of yourself which
generally actually amplifiesinto a loving expression of
itself in the world. It canconnect with other people who
(27:41):
are doing the same and co createand co collaborate into what is
actually here to manifest andactualize into the world becomes
very important. We talk aboutthis as set beliefs. People also
talk about mind, you know, it'sin the mind, let's get mind
exercises, let's get your mindaround this and we think no -
beliefs come from the heart. Themind follows in fact, it has to
(28:03):
add up and accept them, thebeliefs, they're truths, they
got defined, as soon as wepopped out into this planet, if
not - for those of you who cango there - before... and brought
in with you. But those beliefshave been being unwound and
shifted and changed and impactedby the world around with a whole
(28:24):
journey back to the authenticversion of you. Which is why I
BUlieve has be you in it. You'reprobably wondering why we're
saying be you in it because wespell I BUlieve, for the
purposes of this program is I BU...lieve.
Jules_Williams (28:43):
Sometimes we skip over the big soul journey.
But we also like confrontingthat head on and whether you do
believe in the soul, I BUlievethat I BUlieve in the soul. That
is one of my beliefs. But ifwhether you believe in it or
not, there is in our DNA we callit familial lines. So you've got
(29:03):
definitely within your own DNA,some of granddad's story or
great granddad's story or greatgreat great granddad's story or
great great grandmother's story,etc. So whichever way you look
at it, you know, the world hasgone through a patriarchal
fearful, fire and brimstonecourse of religion, for example.
(29:24):
So we might be born into thislife with the most spiritually
nourishing denomination orchurch or even just a spiritual
life that we're living. But thatdoesn't mean to say that there
could be a very deep rootedanger or a frustration or a
feeling of being abandoned byGod for want of a better word. I
(29:44):
say that because everyone mighthave many different words for
God, or even a higher source ora higher self, whichever way you
want to go. But it's funny thatwhether you call it a past life
or whether you call it just DNApassed down from, you know, your
great grandparents We do bringthese beliefs with us the second
we pop into the world as well.
They might not be as obvious tous because we didn't go through
(30:06):
a physical experience in thislife, that we can remember, we
can relate to, we can go backand heal, we can go back and
clear. (Yeah,) but it'ssomething we brought with us
from a past life that takes abit more unearthing if you know
what I mean.
Alison_Pothier (30:22):
I think it's clear though, what you're saying
is, at the end of the day, ourbeliefs are things that frame
our existence. They have been inus, not necessarily consciously,
from the beginning. And when westart to try to articulate our
beliefs, we tend to start withthe surface, I BUlieve that
(30:45):
party/person should win and thatone should lose. Okay, well,
that's fair enough. Start there,start on the surface. And then
ask and then ask and ask, Wheredid that come from? And there
will be beliefs where you don'tknow. But it's okay in that
scenario, you don't need tonecessarily know where it comes
from the analysis of it. But youcan ask yourself, whether it's
(31:09):
working for you, and what theprocess is, in letting that go.
What have you got to lose inevolving into a new one? Are you
afraid that the new one willfail you? Are you afraid that
the old one is the only outcomeor opportunity? It's a healing
process. We're living in a worldwhich is blame, name, shame.
(31:29):
It's project out ,rather thanevolve from within and transform
from from the inside out. Andit's not working for us because
it's in denial of, and lackingaccountability, for the
Co-creation, and thecollaboration of everything we
see. We're involved. But if weevolve, we can evolve and
(31:50):
transform what we're seeing. Butit has to be through self
accountability, rather thanname, shame, blame, look within
if it's out there.
Jules_Williams (31:58):
The whole construct almost of political
correctness, if you look at iton one level is to reduce our
vocabulary, to reduce ourability to have a voice, to
reduce our ability to state abelief. Whereas that's not what
I BUlieve is all about. Forexample, when we talked there
about this party or that party,when you deep dive it you go
well, actually, what do IBUlieve? And then you keep
(32:20):
questioning it? And you questionagain, then question again. It
will only then go deeper to ourown investigation, or
actualization that we're after.
So really it will come out, IBUlieve in authenticity, I
BUlieve in honesty ofhumanitarianism. And there'll be
qualities that you would like tosee in a person in a particular
party, whereas politicalcorrectness would want to take
you down the fear based side,the reductive statement of life
(32:42):
side, to shut you down, asopposed to our own spiritual and
human essence of ourselves. Andthat would come out by asking,
even if it's a racist statement,if it's a feminist statement, if
it's a sexuality statement, allof those ones that are always
punishable and negative words.
(33:04):
That isn't what I BUlieve wouldcome anyway, from our own heart,
it comes down to the humanityand spirituality trying to be
shoehorned into this conflict,this duality this two way of
thinking. It's not even one wayof thinking, it's two ways.
Let's create conflict, thenarrative is trying to be
written that way, and beliefsare being imposed on us. And
(33:24):
it's almost like, take back ourbeliefs, you know, that that
should be the March, take backmy own belief, you know, for
ourselves.
Alison_Pothier (33:32):
Take back, myself.
Is take backbeing you in the world. Take
Jules_Williams (33:35):
Myself, yeah.
back the ability and the freedomof self expression. Not imposed
expression, self expression. Theversion of you that's you. We
talk about diversity inorganizations and things like
that and organizations havetalked about, you know, how to
classify people in order toserve them better which is
(33:55):
actually undiverse. We're nottalking about classification of
beliefs, the acceptability ofbeliefs. We're talking about a
human journey. Everybody notclassifying You know, this
versus that, there's nopolarization, it's all an AND
existence. It all is okay. Whatif all of you could be loved and
(34:18):
accepted? What if 100% of thehuman version of yourself in all
of its bumps and bruises can beaccepted, that's what we're
working on. And I BUlieve that'sthe goal is the ability to say
that I matter in all ways andhave that reflected back at me
in the world. And so any beliefundermining that inside of me
(34:40):
should be looked at andreconciled. Not blaming the worl
and telling it it needs to chnge but taking myself through
hat it is I don't really beleve about my own self worth th
t's emanating that in the worldand creating a reflection back a
me of le It's endemic outin the world at the moment. The
(35:00):
rage, the fear, the anger, theblame. The negativity, it's a pe
fect storm of all those neative emotions, which means al
of us, every single one of usin some form or co creating th
t because exactly what you're sying there. We haven't fully re
onciled ourselves to love andacceptance to the deepest
(35:21):
art of our marrow. And so whatetter place to start is okay, th
external judgments and rage - bit the keyboard warrior to the
placard blamer - it's just fuelng, in our outside world that
we're all seeing, and whats going on externally. So to t
ke that breath and go, okaywhere is that disc
mbobulation within me? What layes are getting in the way of me i
(35:43):
ternally to get to that loveand acceptance.
Alison_Pothier (35:47):
Like you says it's fueling in the world around
us as fires rage everywher, it is fueling fire. It's f
eling rage. And every time wsay I don't love that person
I don't love that in the world.
We're saying I don't love that ime. And I wouldn't accept
that in me, I wouldn't find tat acceptable in me. Okay.
o therefore, you're livinginternally in a polarized existe
(36:08):
ce within yourself and creatig a polarized existence in the
world. Where does that come fom? Who told you that's right,
that's wrong, that's good,hat's bad. that's accept
ble, that's not. This is why tis is the beginning of a large
journey. And then this is why te people who had to do their
stories at the beginning said,Oh, my goodness, what I've had t
go through to come to eventate this much and I know I'll c
(36:31):
ange it right after I walk aay, but what I've said here i
beautiful within me and is a tuth within me so far. It's
rue, you know, we've seen whatot produced from that creat
on, on the other side, fromo many beautiful hearts worki
g so hard to be able to makehose statements. And we decid
d on the basis of that, not othe basis of the judgment of th
(36:54):
world around our own selve, but as an invitation to help
nyone else who's intersted in that. Jules and I, we ar
coaches. So if people listeing do feel that they they'
e aware enough of the conflct within or the desire to trans
orm their own worlds, theirown existences and you're feelin
(37:14):
a little bit stuck, you can rech out to Jules at his website
he's www.JulesWilliams.
om and I'm Alison Pothier, ww.Alison Pothier.com. You
can see that written in theotes for the episode. And you
(37:35):
ust write to us and say, Hey, lstened to your podcasts. And
e'll give you 10% off on a coching session, if you lik
. We are also planning to helppeople work out your I BUli
ve statement Jules you want to tlk about that?
Jules_Williams (37:59):
If I say I've condensed of what we have been
talking about is to open thatdoor for self investigation to
find out what each individualbelieves we are gonna go thr
ugh that process of starting thequestioning. Starting to turn th
page internally and write thse beliefs and to start the in
estigation of those beliefs. Iuse that word a lot because
hat is actually what it is. W're going to do a self invest
(38:23):
gation, a self deep dive, a sef unfolding to say what it is b
t framed obviously purely byhat is it I truly BUlieve in
And then once we startetting that out the question o
the question on the questionn the question, do I belie
e that? Where did that belief cme from? Was I given that be
ief? Do I truly believe tht? Am I fearful that I'll be to
(38:44):
d off if I don't believe thatnymore? Why do I believe tha
? Yes, I believe that becauseI went through it physically an
it shaped me. No, I don't belive that anymore because some
ne battered it into me for sevn years of childhood as a
belief. No, I don't beliee it any longer and let that go.
That'll be the process. That'l get us going. And we're going
(39:04):
o give you time to write it outand to start framing that statem
nt of beliefs that you can truy own and love owning those wi
hin you.
Alison_Pothier (39:25):
So part one will be getting to the ability to
even have an outline of astatement. It doesn't have to be
the end statement. Really, it'sthe beginning one ... and part
two, if that really motivatesyou would be to start honing in
on that and starting the processwith that to get it working for
(39:49):
you so that your world can starttransforming to what you hope it
to be, hope it to look like,want it to be a statement of...
It would be wonderful if, atsome point, you loved your I
BUlieve so much you'd frame it.
One of the things about ourplatform we're hoping for is
obviously to continue to buildcontent to support everybody who
is trying to work their wayback, be that through programs,
(40:13):
stories, narratives or podcasts,and also a movement. So at some
point, you know, when people areready, we just start sharing and
inspiring. At the end of everyvisual story, the person throws
out the challenge. Now it's yourturn, what do you BUlieve?
(40:35):
That's where we're at in thispodcast, we want to come to that
challenge for you. Now, it'syour turn. What do you BUlieve.
We've shared a lot today aboutwhat we BUlieve. We'd like to
challenge anybody listening tothis podcast, to stop even for
an hour today, or 15 minutes orfive minutes and say, do I
actually believe that thing I'vebeen believing all this time?
Jules_Williams (41:00):
But that's the beauty that's come out of our
process of going through it andour sharing of that process is -
we can revisit and hone andrecreate our I BUlieve, for the
rest of our life. It's a tool.
And it's a tool of almost ourlifetime's work of
self-actualization tools formedthrough an I BUlieve statement
for ourselves. People getworried, like I said, on two
(41:23):
points, one, when they start tosay it, they have to truly own
those words. So hence, there'stheir hesitation. And two, they
think you're going to pick upthe pen and suddenly there's
going to be a work ofShakespeare out there of what
you believe in that's, that'sdone for good. It's a process.
It is definitely one of thosewhere it's a journey as well as
a destination and that's the joyof it. To take that pressure
off ourselves and to say (41:45):
I'm going start with one belief, I
BUlieve in this do I believe inthat? Where does it come from?
What's the flip side of thatbelief. And before you know it,
you've taken some time foryourself, you've come out of the
fray of the noise that's out inthe world and are reconnecting
with yourself, your discernment,your intuition. And in essence,
if you want to call it that -your soul.
Alison_Pothier (42:08):
To bring some closure to our conversation
today, would it be helpful if wepublished our I BUlieve
statements onto the website sopeople could go there and have a
look and see on I bulieve.com,so www I bulieve.com.
Jules_Williams (42:26):
And that's bulieve... BU.
Alison_Pothier (42:28):
Yeah, I BU...lieve. You can go there,
you can have a look at our ownbeliefs. You can have a look at
our background, you can look atthe stories, the BUographies
that we did that we're referringto and see how those guys ended
up making the statements oftheir beliefs in their little
seven minute episodes. Theirvisual stories. If you do
(42:50):
connect with us there and you'reinterested in a one on one
process to put your I BUlievetogether just write to us on
that contact page, quote thispodcast and we'll turn that into
a one on one coaching sessionfor you for how you can start
down the road for yourselfreconciling and framing beliefs
(43:11):
that work for you and the worldaround you. That's our goal. Our
goal is to challenge youNow it's your turn. As Al said
earlier on. What do you BUlieve?
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