December 4, 2020 • 52 mins
In this episode of IBULIEVE, husband and wife duo, Alison Pothier and Jules Williams, take a deeper dive into the process of honing our beliefs. Sharing their own "I BUlieve Statements", they invite listeners write their own. In the process, they challenge listeners to consider more deeply what they truly believe, where those beliefs come from and how well they are working for them in creating the life and world they wish to see.
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Jules_Williams (00:00):
I BUlieve in the birthing of creation through
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woven narratives, storytellingon the page, in film, or around
the literal or metaphoricalcampfire.
Alison_Pothier (00:39):
I BUlieve that what we believe has a vibration.
And that when we truly believein something, that something
becomes truth and manifests inform.
Jules_Williams (00:50):
There's a couple of teaser excerpts from Alison
and myself's, I BUlieves, whichwe're going to be deep diveing
with as this podcast goes on. Sowelcome to Episode Two. It's
Jules Williams and AllisonPothier bringing you all things
I BUlieve.
Alison_Pothier (01:22):
In our first episode, we discussed why it
matters to even consider what webelieve what it is that our
beliefs impact, and this week,we thought we'd take that a step
further carrying on with thattheme of understanding what we
believe in, and why and bringsomething different in. How do
you figure out what it is youbelieve, where does that come
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from? Where do we begin when westart thinking about it? And
Jules and I we didn't reallyshare too much last week about
who we are how we've come toeven be here. So maybe we'll
share a little bit of ourbackground this week, as well as
some of our own I BUlievestatements.
Jules_Williams (01:59):
I'm Jules I'm Abergavenny, born and bred grew
up in Wales. I'd like to say Iwas forged and honed in the
Welsh countryside. I lived inthe Cotswolds and in London
throughout certain stages of mycareer and the nucleus now for
our I BUlieve platform is outhere in Malibu where Al and I
live.
Alison_Pothier (02:17):
And I grew up in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, on
the east coast. Number three ofsix kids, we were all born
within seven years of eachother, so is 7,6,5 skip 3 skip,
newborn twins. Grew up and withtraditional Catholic family, if
there was any such thing as weretraditional back then with
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certain values and things thatwere framed for us that define
the way our worlds worked. Andthen over time, moved on to a
career in investment banking,moved to New York City and got
transferred over to London forone year and ended up there for
20. But in that 20 yearsoverseas, I think it was that
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time to understand who I was inthe world, what I BUlieved then
separate from what I had beenborn and raised to believe and
understand and started tochallenge beliefs in those 20
years, where I am now living inCalifornia, on my second
marriage now with Jules, I'vecome to understand and
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re-evaluate those beliefs yetagain, and coming to a new place
of what it is, I BUlieve, andwant to believe going forward in
my life. And this subject forboth Jules and I is a very
relevant subject in terms of howyou create and define your
world, how you take it back, soit's not defined for you but
defined from within.
Jules_Williams (03:42):
One aspect for all of us when we we choose to
look back again, or investigateand see what it is we truly
believe? Do you think thephysical separation of distance
from moving from the US to theUK energetically opened up more
freedom to question certainbeliefs or what you believe in
or what you wanted to choosemoving forward to believe in?
Alison_Pothier (04:02):
I think it did for me. It may not have been
inherent in the move. It wasinherent in my mindset during
the move. At that time. I was inmy early 20s. And I had been at
a time in my life where I wasfeeling constricted by the
definition of myself as set upby the world around me. I wasn't
sure if I myself could own allof the beliefs that I was
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carrying, but I didn't feel freeto be able to explore challenge
question fully those beliefswithout a certain distance to
where I was rooted. And wherethey were rooted. With a very,
very strong value system, notjust in the family, but in my
community and then in theextended community at large. And
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then there was the Americancommunity and I was just
somebody who needed to knowwhether I BUlieved all of the
things that I had been toldabout what it meant to be any of
the things I was includingmyself. I undid my world
starting the minute I went away,I went into an identity crisis.
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But I've been in more than onein my life I almost launched
them in order to re-define andre-define and rip labels off
myself to see if I can reallycome to what is authentically me
rather than stuck or imposed onme like a sticker, one that I'm
you know, agreed to wear.
Jules_Williams (05:27):
I think everybody, all the listeners
that are aware of any form ofself investigation, it can
sometimes not be pretty, but italso ultimately definitely ends
up much more rewarding for us interms of understanding ourselves
and our journey here. What'sinteresting, we said in this
episode, we're gonna cover somesort of areas which help as a
deep dive when we startinvestigating our own I BUlieve
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what it is we truly believe inthese statements, these poetic
statements or life affirmingstatements that sort of start to
imbue how we see life how weinteract with life, how we want
to try and live our lives.
Interestingly straight off thebat, there were Al was talking
about a physical distance fromthe US to the UK and a
definitive mental statement ofwhich you said I'm gonna give
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time and separation to look atand re-evaluate. I probably had
a similar trigger., when Istarted investigating in terms
of - I was very intuitive as akid, I used to see energies in
people energies of spirit, Ididn't have any frame of
reference for that. So I lostmyself in sport and used the
physical to sort of keep at bay,those intuitive vulnerabilities.
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I didn't understand them as akid. And I went through sport
all the way through school allthe way through college, and
after college, I lived in thestates for a year and then
traveled Australia. And it'sinteresting, all of that
intuitive journey, I've sort ofkept slightly at bay during the
first 20 or so years of my life,having that freedom to travel,
being in a different countryhaving new experiences and the
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freedom to enjoy those newexperiences, which you do when
you're traveling, startedbringing a lot of those thoughts
to the surface and I startedreading a lot more around the
subject experiencing otherpeople that had similar
journeys. I'm sure every one ofus and all the listeners, they
go on holiday, somewhere in aspecific place to go on holiday,
and they find themselveswandering into a museum or a
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church or an old building or anold restaurant or bar. And
because you're on holiday,because you're in a different
environment, because your eyesare up and more aware in a way
that sometimes can be a greatstarting point for asking the
questions. That's why people goaway on weekend retreats, or go
away on holiday or go for a walkin the woods.
Alison_Pothier (07:37):
We go away to find ourselves.
Jules_Williams (07:39):
which shouldn't be definitive should it but it
is a point sometimes.
Alison_Pothier (07:43):
I think if you had a childhood experience
similar to your own, where youwere an intuitive child in a
home that didn't understandthat, you're in an identity
challenge right away. Some of usget that later. I was also like
you I was always somebody askingmyself who I am what I'm doing.
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And somewhere along the way, Ifelt lost really early on being,
you know, one of six in themiddle, always questioning, I
guess who I was withinsomething. And I knew my heart.
And I was a sensitive soul. AndI was introverted, and couldn't
express that. So a lot of thingsthat I expressed out into the
world were in forms of poetryhidden, so no one could read it,
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writing hidden so no one couldread it. And a very mathematical
mind trying to put everythingtogether. But when I got to
teenage years, where everybody'sin an identity crisis, it really
felt most lost and went off anddid volunteer work in a foreign
country - in Haiti, and thenwent into a wealth versus
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poverty story, really feelingthe pain of the world and ended
up a banker. How do you end upan investment banker when you've
been understanding what ultrapoverty is. I was in 100%
conflict just every day fromchildhood through to getting a
job in investment banking, andalways feeling like my heart
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wasn't adding up to the place myfeet were, then it just changed
country to make that morecomplicated. So somewhere along
the way, that all builds up, itbuilds up it builds up into this
thing where you're going to haveto reconcile with that and that
time is going to come What doyou believe? All of this has
been shown to you all of thishas been exposed to you,
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influenced by the outside worldhanded to you, on top of you and
you're navigating a ship untilsuddenly you're in charge of
everything from the map to thedestination and for me, there
was a collision. What couldcollides colludes I say, there
was a collision, but that didn'thappen until my 30s.
Jules_Williams (09:52):
I can only talk from my own belief or my own
experience, but I thinkdefinitely our soul chooses to
come into this lifetime and hascertain lessons or
understandings or journeys thatwe want to go through to achieve
to understand ourselves. And allof what you're describing there
is almost like this perfectstorm of childhood and 20s and
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30s, which gets all of us backto that question, Who am I? Why
am I here? What's my purpose?
and really simple words. Andyet, what we try and do with, I
BUlieve, is frame thosequestions, Who am I? Why am I
here? What's my purpose? It'sone way that we can start to
frame that by asking thequestions of ourselves by our
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beliefs, or beliefs that haveshaped us the beliefs that we've
had thrust upon us, or force fedus or the beliefs that have come
out of empirical knowledge orkinesthetically feeling
ourselves, through experiences,and around the world. And all
those angles, some of thosebeliefs, it's time to adios time
to let go of them, time torevisit. And other ones, it's
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time to bring more to the fore.
Like, I love what you said, youknow, earlier on Al with hidden
writing, when you were a kid, noone could see it, but you needed
to get it out. And it's almostlike, you're you're inverting
that and your writing is meantto be seen now.
Alison_Pothier (11:09):
It's our voice we find, you know, it's our
expression of ourselves out intothe world, we find a way to do
it. But we have to be ready Ithink internally to own it. I
hid my true beliefs deep insidemy heart because of the unsafety
of holding them, which I thinkwe see in the world now. The
unsafety of holding our truebeliefs. So many people holding
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back their true tongue and somany others imposing their
tongue on the world. Somewhat inthe imposition, they don't even
really fully believe it, it washanded to them. They didn't come
to that themselves. They're justputting a sticker on the world
so it doesn't look deeper withinand question where that really
comes from. And then theyrealize they don't add up to the
statement they're making,either. I think that's why I hid
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my writing while I wassearching, and I'm searching and
searching. And I want to makesure that when that comes
forward, that's allowed in me,my heart allows myself the
safety of being able to expressmy poetry and my music, my
writing into the world. And Ihaven't allowed that for a very
long time, for reasons of Do youreally believe that? Can you
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still hang on to that. Now I'mgiving myself a little bit more
leeway with the ability to haveevolving understandings about
what I BUlieve and newawarenesses that feed new
abilities to stand behind them.
But I can stand now behind whatI BUlieve in this moment, even
if I may change that. Andtherefore my voice can get more
expressed or I can be moremyself and not having to wear a
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suit I don't feel like wearinganymore. But it's it takes a
long time and long process. Andit usually takes something
colliding with you. Foryourself, you grow up this
intuitive kid you got intosports and personal training and
you still couldn't hide from it,it still followed you. True
beliefs sticks with you. And youhave to face it or a true you
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sticks with you. How did that
Jules_Williams (12:57):
It all ties back to the I BUlieve. I'd have these
work for you?
like flippant simple statementsfor when someone would come to
me and automatically I'd writesome program out and then pick
up on an ailment or somethingelse that might be going on
internally in the body. They'dbe like that's is amazing, I am
feeling that or I do go throughthat. And then off they go. And
I'd be like nice, I just wingedthat. It would be almost like a
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caveat I could I could laugh offfor myself, rather than say...
you just tapped into thatperson's soul, read a story of
what's going on and have helpedthem look at that story and heal
that story and move on. I didn'thave any of that language in my
early 20s when I was doing that.
So it's almost as if sport andthe physical hit a timeline with
spiritual growth and emotionalgrowth. I sought out work with
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the subconscious, I did a veryintensive three year course with
dealing with the subconscious ofmy own emotional blocks from the
past, going through past lives,understanding cellular memories
that we hold in us. And that isone of my beliefs, which we'll
read out later on is thatcellular memory that we hold
that shapes us to and again, inthose cells will be beliefs that
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come out into reality. Iactually started to face it head
on and say okay, well, this isgoing on. Let's open it up as
much as I can and see where I gowith it. And part time I
transitioned from working withpeople on a physical level to
working with people on anemotional and spiritual level
and using my intuition and theskills of my understanding of
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the subconscious that way.
Alison_Pothier (14:27):
Yeah, So the way you did that is for anyone who
hasn't read your story, the wayyou did that, is you started out
obviously traditional PersonalTraining, and suddenly your
intuitions kicking off and youcan see the story. You can see
the reason they're not losingweight is because something
happened at six years old andyou can see what that is and you
started to know that if you tookback an aspect of yourself and
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owned it that intuitive side ofyou and combined it with other
passions, of course that you hadbecause you were passionate
about the physical you could dosomething special with who you
really were, if you would allow.
And I know you do that withstorytelling, I watch you in
your interviews with people, andyou know, you do your directing,
but people don't know that whenyou're directing, you already
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know where you're going thatyou're given the questions,
you're given the understandingof what to do to bring out the
truth of somebody, and you havea very special gift. And I know
you say you're a storyteller ishow you introduce yourself here.
But you're not an averagestoryteller. You're an intuitive
storyteller, you bringing theheart forward, and you're making
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space for somebody who hasfreedom to do that. So when I
listen, and other people listento the stories that you get
told, they asked how you didthat. And that's another
formula. That's an authenticexistence, you showed up fully,
and you do that thing. I BUlievethat when we are in line with
what we truly believe in and aretruly being. So that's why we
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say be and believe in you. Theauthentic you, when you're truly
being that it's got a magic toit. It has this extra
dimensional sense it's making ofthings or extra dimensional
capability of deliveringsomething not just authentic,
but inspired. And as a result,the reason we talk about helping
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people or saying people it's agood time to stop and think
about what you believe. We'resaying just so you can find your
magic, why do we think youshould look, because there's a
magic wand hanging out rightthere. And if you are underneath
pain, or you are underneath aworld of having to show up and
be what everybody's expecting ofyou, and you're stuck. The best
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starting point is to take a stepback and to start looking at the
beliefs you hold, the ones thatyou know you hold or were handed
to you, and the ones that you'rehiding inside that you hold that
no one else can know that youhold. To start to understand
what it is that's creating theworld we're in.
Jules_Williams (17:00):
When we talk today on what are some of the
diving in points for us to goand have a look at our I
BUlieve, even that example thereif we take us back to 20
something year old me and I'vegot somebody on the treadmill,
and you could say on a physicallevel, and bear with me on this
because this is going to pan outfor both Al and I and our ways
that we feel or see things andthey'd be on the treadmill and
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you could on one level say okay,where's their heart rate? What's
their cadence? How are theyhandling this? We're trying to
help this person lose weight.
And then before you know it, I'mhaving a conversation about six
year old them. And what'ssurfacing is dad left home, the
woman thought it was her faultas a six year old. And of course
it wasn't and we're just talkingout this story. And that's where
it's the way I was always shown.
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So if I was directing twowell-known personalities for a
discussion, for a conversation,upstairs would show me to just
spend time on eight year oldthem, there's some story there.
So I'd quietly, direct them andguide them into almost like a
healing or a sharing or anunderstanding would come out
that it might not have eventhought about it for a while and
I'm saying that because if I goto look at my own I BUlieve it's
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almost like I ask and I throwthem out there in thought
because I see very quickly inthought and what I've witnessed
with Al sees so clearly andfeels her way through thought
and you can obviously explainthat a lot better than me
because you live with it all thetime. But I've watched Al be in
someone's company or helpingthem or coaching them and
healing them and feeling almostwhere energetically this stories
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going on in their body. So, thatin the real time moment as we're
doing this podcast brings aquestion, you know, Al, I ask
myself tha, would you feel outyour I BUlieves more? Whereas I
might see my I BUlievestatements and thoughts, would
you feel yours out.
Alison_Pothier (18:42):
I'd probably feel my reaction to them. So if
I wrote down a sentence thatsays I BUlieve this and I tried
to read it out, I would possiblyvomit if I was in conflict with
them, I would have a physicalreaction to it or a physical
experience of it. If itresonated in the heart, it would
go right in like you know, TaChing that makes sense. And when
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I'm in conflict with literallykicks me in the stomach. For
some people, they think that's aphrase, for me, it's an absolute
punch in the stomach and it'spainful. So we're talking about
intuition really, and howintuition overlays with our
beliefs. But I think the cleareryou are on understanding who you
are and your emotional landscapeand your real truths, the
clearer your intuition is. Andwhen you're telling yourself
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lies or you're trying to believesomething you don't really
believe whatever, your intuitionhas as much inaccuracy built
into it. So who is our originalself and our original self is
extra sensory. We know what weneed to know, see what we need
to see, feel what we need tofeel and we can navigate life
without the influence of anybodyelse. If we can shift the
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influence of everybody else andwe will be adding up to
something that can be reallyinspired. So we're talking about
intuition and belief and howthey're running side By side. My
intuition works through feeling,yours is profoundly thought, I
mean, literally is just athought and is absolutely clear.
Mine is, somebody could betalking to me, they're telling
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me they're fine. And I know thatthey're harboring a heart ache
that is so bad, I'm going todouble over. And I have to find
a way to either exit theconversation and still have my
heart intact, or bring that upin a way that doesn't expose
somebody, but invites that painto come out. And in my coaching,
I will know whether somebody'ssaying, Hey, I'm totally on
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course with this, and this iswhere I want to go. And I'm
like, that's great. I'm glad youhave that plan, you are
absolutely not adding up tothat. So your energy is in
conflict with your words. And Ican help you with that. We can
ask why. And boom, you know,you're on to a whole subject
that once revealed and healeddoes make the dream add up to
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the desire, but not when thestory underneath it is in
conflict. And I feel my waythrough that you see and know
how can we be ourselves in thoseconversations, if I remember the
beginning of coaching coming outof like a really traditional
executive career where you getevaluated on your performance,
you have skills and tasks andways you do them. But it's kind
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of one dimensional in terms ofyour ability to succeed. It was
really challenging to be able tobe who I was in it, versus who
everybody else was in it. Iwasn't the same coach, as a
coach gets trained to be, youcould call me a coach. And I
wouldn't add up to theexpectation. Yes, I can perform
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those functional coachingthings. But I had things going
on in conversations, I waslistening to more than one
conversation at the same timeand needing to interrupt
somebody, say, you know, I knowwe're going down this path, and
a psychotherapist will allow youto go down that for an hour. And
there you go. But you're goingto waste an hour's time, because
that's not what's bothering you.
Who am I to say that, except forI know that so I interject that.
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So it puts me on the spot tohave to be free to be authentic
and not afraid of therepercussions of that.
Jules_Williams (22:06):
And I've watched that in you all the time. And I
see you embody that more so thananybody I know. That's a real
help. I'd say to us in terms ofsharing 'Now it's your turn.
What do you believe?' There yougo. There's a there's a little
vignette we've just covered inthat part is aah okay. So it's
not just a question of I'm goingto write it down or I'm going to
think about it. I'm going to sayit out loud because Al's very
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musical. I am around a lot ofmusicians and their hearings,
amazing. And even theirintuition probably comes
predominantly through sound eventhough as Alison said a minute
ago, we have all of those multisenses. But they predominantly
probably do it through Sound. Soaah okay, I'm gonna write down
my I BUlieve, I'm going to thinkabout it. I'm going to write it
down. I'm going to say it outloud. I'm going to roll it
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around my tongue. And I'm goingto imagine myself taking part in
that statement of what I BUlievein and see how it feels. Does it
actually jar against my body? Ordoes it feel pretty anchored and
empowering and look at itmultisensory? Because they will
give you clues about how potentthat belief is. within you.
Alison_Pothier (23:12):
Yeah, and so to take your musician thing forward
is I'm quite auditory tooclairaudient and clear hearing.
And like a musician, I have tohear it and feel it. And a
musician will hear somethingthat doesn't resonate, we do as
people, we listen to peopletalking. We know when it doesn't
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resonate. It's a vibration. If amusician is doing their I
BUlieve one way to know whetherthey believe it is to hear it
back and hear whether or not itresonates and which sentence
jars in their ear and wheretheir beat is off. And if it is
off don't just push through that- ask. What about that? And
where am I stuck? And what elsedo I hear when I say that
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sentence? We've seen so manypeople in our interviews or they
had it all written out, they'reready to go and their mouth
won't deliver that word. And itsounds funny. So we'll stop and
say every other note soundednormal, but that one so what's
going on there? Oh, my mother'sin my eyes. And when I say this,
I can hear her going on that'snot true or my friends. And so
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I'm having a hard time sayingthis because it's going to
conflict with these people.
Okay, well, what would you dothat could correct that for you
that you can say that samesentiment and it will flow
easier for you? I'm a feeler. Ihave to hear it and feel it. You
know whether it resonates andthen you know when you're in
conflict and you have to bereally honest with yourself.
Other people, their intuitioncomes through taste and smell
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and all sorts of sensoryunderstandings about how
something resonates as truth tothem. If we watch somebody on
stage, speaking a room will gosilent when truth is speaking.
When noise is speaking, data,facts, whatever the room will be
noisy. People will be shiftingin their seats, truth resonates
and we know it so when we're inour truth, others know it. When
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we're out of line withourselves. Others hear it and
particularly those who know youreally well. Oh, yeah, you're
just bullshitting right there?
Come on, give it to me straight.
What are you hiding? We can'thide from ourselves.
Jules_Williams (25:13):
Having laid that out. I think that's one aspect
of so many levels that are opento us by investigating our I
BUlieve, but because we'retalking about how it feels, how
we think about it, how itsounds, there's two things. One,
we mentioned last week, whenwe're talking about it, it is a
journey, our I BUlieve, and Imyself, I wrote my first one in
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around about 1988, and I'mprobably on my eighth or ninth
iteration now. But the last oneI wrote was about three years
ago in 2017. So I haven't reallylooked at it even for the last
three years. So I thought, ifyou're happy to let's read it
out now. And then I can gothrough and see some of that
will have changed or some won'tresonate or some will not feel
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right, even though it would havefelt right in 2017 at the time.
And again, there's anotheraspect that Al and I are going
to talk through as this seriesgoes on even the way that you
frame your I BUlieve statements.
I like words, and I like poetry,and I like sort of mixing them
up. So not only the statementsthemselves, but the way they get
framed and how they come out isa little poetic, some people's
might come out in song somepeople's might literally come
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out in a sentence after sentenceafter sentence. That's again,
another beauty of it. But that'sfor something that we're going
to cover in a later episode. IfI run through mine...
I BUlieve in the soul and our jurney through many lives u
ique and unrepeatable and yet samped with the patterning of h
man experience and emotions fmiliar to all. I BUlieve in t
e power of the subconscious. Ad I BUlieve in an infinite l
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ght and loving source, but oly once you are willing to a
cept that the infinite source ialso an aspect of you. I B
lieve in the power of story, ceativity and writing it out. I
Ulieve in kidi, in chi and I alo BUlieve we live in the age of
the Ronin, a time of the spritual warrior without a ma
ter other than the infinite souce that is also within. I BUl
eve in the Native American medcine animals, especially ba
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ger (you can look it up), andalso in dolphin, playfull
reminding us of the alchemy obreath. I BUlieve in Zuma Be
ch - from Trancas to the Point -here those very dolphins
play their medicine holisticaly with the pelicans and the wh
les in the cleansing ocean thatolds hands with ionized air. W
en I say, I BUlieve in story,mean the story we tell our
elves and others storieof how we perceive I and i
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to be. And, of course, I BUlive in the birthing of cre
tion through woven narratives,torytelling on the page, in
film or around the liteal or metaphorical campfire.
I BUlieve in every cell, in celllar memory and the cleansing of
our awareness from the inside ou. I also BUlieve in karma, bu
have to be specific, not tenous, with that belief. Ka
ma, as in Universal Law,eturn to Sender, our own intenti
(27:48):
ns delivered back to our own frot door, but knowing this a
so means not policing it becaue the as, the when and the how i
not for us to decide. I BUlievin the many words and teaching
of other fellow souls, but stuggle with the rhetoric of posi
ive statement where, for examle, 'live in the moment' and '
e here now' lose potency fromepetitive mantra and end up hid
en in plain sight, their valuediminished from drowning the
(28:10):
motional marketplace and dlivering limp and sodden sup
rlatives lost to the all-encopassing caveat of noise. Talking
of which, I do BUlievein unconditional love and
uthenticity, specifically throuh witnessing their energy in
ction in my wife, Alison, thelearest reflection of the auth
ntic I have yet to see. IUlieve in the power of our
intuition, the wild silver Brumy, the vibration of words a
(28:31):
d, most of all, I BUlieve inthe ability to shine a light br
ghter than the mass mediof fear and control that is
ttempting to play backgammonSo that was three years ago, and
there's a few things that jumpout as more apt there, you're
smiling did you have...
I think evolvingfirst is definitely the medicine
Alison_Pothier (28:43):
No I was just thinking out of all of that. If
you were to close your eyes andsay one of those sentences that
resonates either as truth or aseditable, what's your deepest
truth out of all that stillr is something that you're ev
lving.
animals. And it's interestingbecause at the period of time
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I'd have written that badgermedicine, by the way is very
much about constructiveaggression. And I was working
with harnessing the energy ofaggression but in a constructive
way. But I'd probably bechanneling a different medicine
animal at this moment in time torewrite it.
I think dolphinsstill a good one
Jules_Williams (29:20):
Dolphin stays.
Alison_Pothier (29:21):
Geez we need to get more dolphin
Jules_Williams (29:23):
Never more so than now. And I'm talking for
you darling. But you and I areenjoying our stretch of Trancus
to the Point on the beach andnature that's out there. So
that's why I mentioned badgerand left dolphin because dolphin
stays in for now. Certainlywithout going on about it is
that implicit belief within thewe have that power of intuition
(29:43):
we have that power of thesubconscious and our light is
infinite. And if we can reallykeep focusing on working on our
vibration that makes the changeout into the world
Alison_Pothier (29:53):
When you believe in the meaning of the soul. It's
light, it's infinitepossibilities.
Jules_Williams (29:58):
The statement was in an earlier iteration
where I implicitly BUlieve thatthe external world is living
feedback of our internalreality. And that would probably
come back in again, as astatement.
Alison_Pothier (30:09):
Yeah, I can see that. In experiencing your, I
BUlieve - listening, right? Andwhat we said we should do badger
stood out for me listening. Andin my mind as you read it, I
Jules_Williams (30:19):
And even that 'I can't breathe' and dolphin is
thought to myself, I wonder ifhe would still say that, because
I know badger was a reallyimportant animal guide for you
during the early years ofspiritual work with people. And
I've found it interesting thatbadger would remain. It was just
(30:42):
a thought it just kind of cameand I'm like, that's interesting
that badgers still held throughOkay, well, then there you go. I
didn't know you would saybadger, actually. And I think
it's quite funny. But we arethat in tune with each other, we
do share common thoughts, whichI always still find magical when
that happens. But yeah, badgerstood out for me. And I'd be
interested in the listeners tosee whether or not actually that
(31:05):
stood out, or what else stoodout. Because your feedback and
their feedback to you wouldprobably be really interesting,
them going do you believe thatnow? because when you said that
I felt this or when you saidthat I thought this of myself?
Okay, well, is that a reflectionof the listener? Is that a
reflection of you? And as alistener, we always should be
thinking about ourselves first,certainly. But usually, there's
(31:28):
an 'and' you and me. And so Iwas reflecting on badger too
going yeah, it's not necessarilyever been my spirit animal. But
I can appreciate how dolphin isgoing to have to go the distance
with us because, in fact,probably not paying enough
attention these days. And I'mnot sure how many are in the
world, I mean, play is gettig just squeezed right out of u
. and hard work versus heart wok is also squeezed out of us
(31:51):
t the moment.
all about the breath, right? Andthe whole assault on the breath
that is going on in the world aswe speak at this moment.
Alison_Pothier (32:02):
And so to come to making a statement, I
BUlieve, like your yours has,and you've done a formalized
statement of your beliefs moreoften than I have. I've done
formalized statements ofintentions -once. Manifestation
lists, I've done more internalchallenging of my beliefs, as
opposed to statement of.
Jules_Williams (32:23):
I may have written more over the years,
which is the joy of doing them.
And we should always championourselves and not look back, I
can see different levels ofgrowth within myself to get to
like where you are now whereyou're older and fully formed.
Alison_Pothier (32:36):
That's very kind of you. And you've given me more
credit than I will when I findout what I actually wrote. No
what I was thinking is you covera lot of different areas. So
when when we're thinking abouttraditional beliefs, or what we
would actually put on a piece ofpaper, you're covering kind of a
really colorful spectrum. So yougot things in there about the
place you live, okay, you talkreally specifically about Zuma
(32:59):
beach, and then you talkphilosophical thoughts. So
here's what I BUlieve aboutkarma. Here's what I BUlieve
about the importance of yourlight in the world. And then you
go to childhood specifics orthings that feed you and I like
the permission for all of thatrather than it has to be all
philosophy because a belief isonly philosophy. No, we're
saying it's a mix, becausethey're all aspects of yourself
(33:23):
and formed, formulating loves.
Jules_Williams (33:26):
Definitely. And I think you and I are both so
clear with others when we workwith them and and when we go
through this is there is noright or wrong. I BUlieve. As
long as you have taken the timewith yourself and investigated
it. It can be funny, it can beflippant, it can be
philosophical as Al was sayingthere, it can be spiritual, it
could be very pragmatic, itcould be projectionist or
(33:47):
futuristic, as long as we takeour time with ourselves and
unravel how that comes out.
However, it comes out as ifwe've taken the time to go
within to investigate and tofeel our way around our own
personal I Bulieve, then it'sperfect and the joy is we can
come back and revisit it. What'sinteresting when we were talking
last week, I was trying toexplain I BUlieve in other
people's teachings and fellowsoul but there is this current
(34:09):
thought I have a lot of themoment where Facebook, Instagram
all social media are rife almostwith positive spiritual yogic
statements. So I mentionedspecifically in here 'live in
the moment' 'be in the now' butI think they're losing their
potency because they' are beingseen or said so often. So what
we're trying to explain lastweek was okay what is Be Here
(34:30):
Now, if you love that, just givea feeling of it in your
statement of what it feels liketo you or a specific place where
you can be here now, either witha person or a place or in nature
so it is ones to expand out onbut then also I'm reading that
and I'm laughing to myselfbecause I have a whole internal
journey for example with IBUlieve in the wild silver
(34:51):
Brumby, a regular person thatwould be reading mine or
listening to that knows none ofthat story and I haven't shared
a feeling as to why it was achildhood book that gave a whole
depth of emotion to me and ofwhich I enjoyed, I BUlieve in
the wild silver brumby. So thereis no right or wrong as we're
saying there, whether they comeout fully formed and
investigative or shared as afeeling or literally is a word
(35:12):
or a statement that meanssomething to us personally and
has a story behind it.
Alison_Pothier (35:17):
Well, the wild silver Brumby in your
subconscious will take that tothe whole three dimensional
understanding about what thatis, somebody else may have a
different orientation even tothe word wild to the word brumby
but your whole being doesn'tneed expansion in the statement
because it's already expansionwithin you. What you're trying
(35:37):
to say there is be here now inmany cases isn't expanded within
us. It's so overly expressedoutside it's expressed for us
and you're saying where it'sbeen expressed for you not from
within you, somebody gave youthose words, add so that you
contextualize or expand that foryou. So that is you, you do
(35:58):
believe that but you believethat in your understanding and
your experience of what thosewords really mean for you. And
you've looked at physical,you've looked at emotional,
you've looked at spiritual,you've looked at family, etc. I
think for me, when I come to thestatements of I BUlieve, we got
brought up in church, you know,I lived in church, and anyone
(36:21):
who knows our family knows welived in church, like literally
surrounded by priests in thefamily, all the friends of and
also social life in church, myyounger brother used to be the
altar boy and sit behind thepriests mouthing every single
word because he knew it so wellas a result those words are in
(36:41):
us. And one of those prayers theNicene Creed starts I BUieve,
Jules_Williams (36:46):
How did I not know that? us married and all
Alison_Pothier (36:49):
I think you've stood in church with me and
these things to discover.
heard it but never had yourselfto say it. I believe in one God
the Father, the almighty,creator of heaven and earth, and
it goes on and and all that isseen and unseen. It wasn't until
in my 30s Yeah, pretty muchbecause that's where everything
got really questioned, where Istuttered in that I believe in
(37:10):
one God, do I? the father theAlmighty, okay, do I? the
creator of heaven and earth, andall that is seen and unseen. And
actually, I thought, well, I cantake one of those sentences in
more than I ever could. And someof the sentences I actually have
to go through for myself andfigure out how I would
contextualize them because I'mmaking this promise every time I
(37:31):
go to church, and I'm not sure.
And it was helpful, it was froma friend at the time, I owned
the center in London, Inside outRetreats, and I was surrounded
by big thinkers in the spiritualworld. And they had also come up
with different churchedbackgrounds, and were still
celebrating their religiousbackgrounds along with their
expanded understanding of theirlives now. They were working on
(37:53):
marrying the old and the new forthem. And this one woman who was
standing next to me, she wasquite influential for me, said
listen to that line, I believein the seen and the unseen. I
believe in the seen and unseen Ibelieve in an everlasting life.
She's like, Where's the conflictAl? You finally get to admit
that you believe there's more tolife than meets the eye and
(38:15):
always have and in aneverlasting life. Well, where's
the conflict with past lifepresent life whatever, no such
thing as time so the souls neverreally died. So you're good. You
can explore any of this stuffit's just permission granted to
take a wider look at what elseother people are contextualizing
may be different than the wordsyou grew up with. But maybe
(38:37):
you're not as in conflict withsome of the new understandings
as you thought you were based onyour old understandings. Maybe
they all merge, but I havequestions you know, your gang
given sentences you practicethose sentences, you know those
sentences do you qustiion thoseand when do you and oh my god,
oh my gosh, oh, my goodness.
(38:59):
What is it to say I don'tbelieve in God. Okay, well, what
if you do but not in thedescription you were brought up
with? Or what if you believe inenergy, it doesn't matter. As
long as you understand the wayyou're understanding whatever
words you're using, and they canauthentically resonate from you.
If they were given to us aschildren practiced in us as
(39:20):
children and never questioned inus, they're going to have to
come into question in order foryou to resonate with them as
your own truth versus an imposedtruth that you're practicing
probably to please somebody, asopposed to actualize that within
your own world, and as soon asyou pleasing somebody you're out
of step with yourself anyway.
And so that practice for me hasbeen to question everything.
(39:42):
When my life collided withitself in my 30s - husband
having an affair, top of mycareer, lots of bad stuff going
on in an organization andeverything I thought I
understood myself to be - rugpulled out of underneath me
overnight and free to questionfree you to be mad at the whole
understanding I had of itbecause it's not working to that
(40:02):
understanding, why is the worldnot work to these rules. Do unto
others? What!! I don't thinkanyone else is doing that, or
they are, but it's not verynice. And is there more, you
know, was there meaning andpurpose and intention in life
was the question. When I startedto ask myself what I BUlieve
does it matter? Well, it came tothe point where it mattered so
(40:24):
much it was about life, it wasabout whether or not I wanted
one, because if it didn'tmatter, if it didn't add up, and
it didn't resonate with me as aneed for some form of truth that
defined some sort of possibilitythat could make a better life
for me and a happier one, then Iwasn't interested. I wanted out
of the way, it all worked, thisinsignificance of anything we
(40:46):
believe, but I had to own my ownbeliefs, because the ones
imposed on me they didn't workthe way I understood them, to.
I'll share some of mine.
Jules_Williams (40:57):
Can't wait to hear yours. I haven't heard it
read out in all its capacity,and you shared what's quite a
religious centric, one for wantof a better word, upbringing and
what you went through thatbrought you to a point. I wrote
a chapter in my book The WeighForward called the god issue.
And ultimately, what I explainedin there, and we talked about
this a little bit last week, ifyou want to revisit Episode One,
(41:18):
is all of us, every single oneof us on this planet will have
to at some point, ask thequestion, do I BUlieve in a
higher source a higher power?
Are you comfortable with theword God? Is it something else
and not having had a religiousupbringing as you did, I was
quite comfortable with the wordGod. I did explain this last
week too. We are a soul and,whether we take it as our
familial lineage or whether wetake it as past lives, there has
(41:40):
been a huge amount of man-madereligious indoctrination on all
of us as souls over the last fewthousand years. So whichever way
we dress it up, and again, wedid the apple pie section last
week, it's a great startingpoint in doing your, I BUlieve,
is to go in spiritually and say,Do I BUlieve in God, in a higher
power. When I was doing my owninvestigation, my own journey
(42:03):
myself and my subconscious andmy healing, I fell upon like an
all encompassing caveat. When Ilink in when I ask when I
connect to my higher power, Ialways say Father, God, Mother,
God, great spirit, InfiniteLight loving source feels very
comfortable to me, I know whatthat means in my cells, and my
connection with with upstairs asI call it with the highest
source. So it's one not toavoid, and I've had famous
(42:25):
people I've done on a TV showthat I used to do back in the
UK, complete atheists, and havegot the best arguments for there
is no God, and we can chat andwe can talk. And then we go back
to a huge life event that makesit far more comfortable to
protect oneself thinking thatthere isn't a higher source or
not part of it. But whether somepeople are happy talking Mother
(42:46):
Earth, some people are happytalking light sunlight, however,
rather than shy away from it,avoid it, or if we do have
dogmatic beliefs about it -fine, but explore them first,
and then come out with some kindof belief statement around how
you fit into this world, with orwithout spirituality.
Alison_Pothier (43:06):
And even using the term God means something so
different to everybody. And sothat's one of those ones to
expand on. Yes, but I see itthis way. No, because it's said
this way, it's still down towhat you believe, a universal
wisdom, somebody else calls thatGod, some calls that a man in a
chair, whatever it is, for you,it's fine, it is just important
(43:28):
to reconcile with the self wherethat is separate from the human
intervention within the church,the church has a spirit, it's
got a soul too, the humansmessing with it. And I mean,
that of all churches, allchurches have souls separate
from the human messing with it,and the human representing it
and human representing it hastheir own story. So discernment,
(43:50):
we talked last week about theneed to be able to discern for
yourself your beliefs within abelief system, and then take
responsibility for them and whatthey're creating in the world.
Now it's your turn. What do youBUlieve? Now it's my turn, what
do I BUlieve? All right, thiswas a draft. Now, I did not
actually reread this. And I donot remember fully what I said.
(44:11):
So
Jules_Williams (44:11):
Even better.
Alison_Pothier (44:12):
I BUlieve that what we truly believe, is born
in the heart not in the mind ad that to change one's mind, w
have to heal the heart. I Blieve that our beliefs can and s
ould change every day, all the tme, because by evolving our b
liefs, we create new pssibilities in the world. I B
lieve that what we believe rsonates as truth in our world a
(44:36):
d creates, manifests the world aound us and the outcomes p
ssible for us. We will alwayse right about what we believe
s possible, therefore I BUlievehat changing our beliefs can
hange the world from the insideut and open us up to new
ossibilities and outcome forur world. I BUlieve that wh
t we believe has a vibratin and that when we truly believe
(44:59):
in something, that somethng becomes truth and manife
ts in form. Therefore, I BUlievthat when we change our belief
, we change our resonance and ththings that no longer vibe w
th us can no longer attracto us. I BUlieve that what w
believe matters most in the wold, because without owning
our beliefs and what they crate in the world, we disempo
(45:21):
er ourselves and allow others tinfluence our beliefs and cr
ate their own outcomes by the poer to infiltrate your truths
- the truths that create truthin the world. Own our beli
fs and we own our world and itoutcomes, freedoms and possib
lities. Surrender our belies to others, and our outco
es, freedoms and possiilities are no longer arisi
(45:45):
g from us authentically, but iposed on us with agenda. To be
ieve takes courage to facefaith and win. It takes cour
ge, commitment and persverance to heal and reco
cile our worlds from the insie out. To truly believe req
ires a reconciliation of all thawe don't believe or we can
(46:06):
t believe in. To say we blieve is to say we trust that
e are SAFE to believe, safe totrust, safe to have faith,
afe to surrender control withoutfearing control safe to believ
BEYOND THE FEAR of believng, beyond the fear of bein
naive, being ignorant,eing disappointed, being gu
lible, being played, being theool, and the fear of findin
(46:28):
out we should never have beleved in the first place. We trus
it is SAFE to hope, to trustto express and to follow our he
rts to trust magic, intution and the guidance of our own
inner truths and knowingTO BELIEVE in our power and
that it doesn't requirepower struggle to do so. We
rust we are safe to allowpower without needing to fight o
(46:49):
resist, to allow birth of all wcreate believing it is safe to
o so, trusting in love and emrace when we do it. To truly be
ieve is to allow safety, tallow materialization, creatio
, abundance of all we hold insidand can dream into existence.
o say we BUlieve - to truly BUleve - is to say you are free to
(47:11):
e you. To be and be you, to bend believe in you, to be and liv
as you. I BUlieve that lif's journey is one big journey
o learn to believe and to band believe in you."
Jules_Williams (47:28):
Love it.
Alison_Pothier (47:29):
So it's pretty good.
Jules_Williams (47:30):
Really good. You did double the work there. So
you did your own I BUlieve andyou did the collective I BUlieve
for I BUlieve.
Alison_Pothier (47:38):
But I think if we use that or put that stuff,
somewhere we have the ability toalso have that online and
accessible to people and pose itas what I BUlieve is really
trying to say is like it takescourage to believe. Every time
you say I BUlieve in the factthat magic can happen in my
life. You're just facing thefear of the disappointed dreamer
(47:59):
and the fear of idealisticthoughts and the fear that
you're just going to find outthere is no God and it is a big
failing. And I think for me whenlife collided, that's exactly
what happened is I met with adisillusionment. What kind of
God would let that happen to me?
What kind of God would let theDo unto others not be the golden
rule for everybody? Maybe thereis no God. And that undermined
(48:20):
all my world, the whole world Igot brought up in. So I BUlieve
you have to go back and rewritethe rules in order to really
make the beliefs that you havework for you in the world. I
know I BUlieve in I BUlieve,because I know how important I
BUlieve is. And it's soimportant. This is the way I
would describe it, which doesresonate with me.
Jules_Williams (48:43):
Where do we get time if we don't give ourselves
permission time to investigatethat statement? We're talking
huge themes of the journey ofthe human soul by understanding
our connection to ourspirituality, and to magic per
se. If it was ever clear lastweek in Episode One, when we
were doing the podcast is sayingwe hardly give ourselves five
(49:04):
minutes of contemplation. Oreven if you know we joke with
with meditate, right meditationtime, get out the calm app, play
something, and off you go. Andyou're fed and meditation on the
app. And yes, that's beingcheeky in using that example.
But what you're sharing therewith that confrontation of
beliefs around God and magic,and that is the ultimate
(49:26):
journeys of why we're here. Sothat's the depth that we keep
sharing and offering up to thelistener is, it will all be
there for you. If you take thetime to go and ask those
questions and not be fearful, bebrave, and just write it out.
Think about it, get it on paper,and be brave to say Actually, I
didn't want to go there for anumber of reasons. But now I've
(49:48):
gone there. It wasn't so scary.
And actually, I'm rejuvenatebecause I've come out with a
more certain belief.
Alison_Pothier (49:54):
If you want to get in touch with either of us.
One of the things you know maybeyou're listening to this, and
we're triggering thoughts or youneed support in addressing the
Jules_Williams (50:02):
And that's I BUlieve www.ibulieve.com and
world that you are in orshifting it to reflect a better
version of yourself. You cancontact us at anytime - or get
in touch with us on our websites- www.ibulieve.com, you can
contact us there, reference thispodcast and we are offering 10%
off of an introductory coachingsession with either Jules or I
(50:22):
as support for people duringthis time who are trying to wrap
their heads around the new themand the world they want to
believe inthank you so much for all the
feedback again on episode onelast week, you know where Alison
and I are coming from, from ussharing our stories too it's a
simple thing like a statement ofwhat it is you truly believe in
(50:45):
and its one of the deepest divesif you choose to go there you
can do as well. Unravellinghealing and past things you
might want to let go of andbringing forward to the fore
more of a vision of how you wantto move forward, it can all be
unveiled wihthin going throughthe process of doing an I
BUlieve which both Alison and Ilove coaching people through to
(51:05):
do.
Alison_Pothier (51:07):
Let's start a movement lets shift
consciousness by inviting betterbeliefs in the world and stating
them together. Instead ofinnundating the world with
negative news let's innundatethe world with a counter force
so strong that its a wave no-onesaw coming and to me making
those statements in my own lifemattered, my life came tumbling
(51:31):
down on the back of the need toquestion everything I BUlieved
in and rebuild it to be my own,so when words come out of my
mouth they are my truth and Ican stand by them and I have the
courage of them and the faith inthem, it takes a lot of work,
I'm still working on it.
Jules_Williams (51:49):
I've seen that work in action with you and
we've been rumbled, viewerswe've been rumbled thats how
passionate we BUlieve in. Let'sstart a movement, let's you guys
have your voice. We are going toexplain as the podcast goes on
how you can send in either avisual or a recorded I BUlieve
of your own.
Alison_Pothier (52:06):
So now its your turn, everyone out there
listening take a step back andask yourself what do you BUlieve
and pass that on to those aroundyou
Jules_Williams (52:15):
Lets get this movement going
I BUlieve in the birthing of creation through
(00:32):
woven narratives, storytellingon the page, in film, or around
the literal or metaphoricalcampfire.
Alison_Pothier (00:39):
I BUlieve that what we believe has a vibration.
And that when we truly believein something, that something
becomes truth and manifests inform.
Jules_Williams (00:50):
There's a couple of teaser excerpts from Alison
and myself's, I BUlieves, whichwe're going to be deep diveing
with as this podcast goes on. Sowelcome to Episode Two. It's
Jules Williams and AllisonPothier bringing you all things
I BUlieve.
Alison_Pothier (01:22):
In our first episode, we discussed why it
matters to even consider what webelieve what it is that our
beliefs impact, and this week,we thought we'd take that a step
further carrying on with thattheme of understanding what we
believe in, and why and bringsomething different in. How do
you figure out what it is youbelieve, where does that come
(01:43):
from? Where do we begin when westart thinking about it? And
Jules and I we didn't reallyshare too much last week about
who we are how we've come toeven be here. So maybe we'll
share a little bit of ourbackground this week, as well as
some of our own I BUlievestatements.
Jules_Williams (01:59):
I'm Jules I'm Abergavenny, born and bred grew
up in Wales. I'd like to say Iwas forged and honed in the
Welsh countryside. I lived inthe Cotswolds and in London
throughout certain stages of mycareer and the nucleus now for
our I BUlieve platform is outhere in Malibu where Al and I
live.
Alison_Pothier (02:17):
And I grew up in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, on
the east coast. Number three ofsix kids, we were all born
within seven years of eachother, so is 7,6,5 skip 3 skip,
newborn twins. Grew up and withtraditional Catholic family, if
there was any such thing as weretraditional back then with
(02:39):
certain values and things thatwere framed for us that define
the way our worlds worked. Andthen over time, moved on to a
career in investment banking,moved to New York City and got
transferred over to London forone year and ended up there for
20. But in that 20 yearsoverseas, I think it was that
(03:02):
time to understand who I was inthe world, what I BUlieved then
separate from what I had beenborn and raised to believe and
understand and started tochallenge beliefs in those 20
years, where I am now living inCalifornia, on my second
marriage now with Jules, I'vecome to understand and
(03:22):
re-evaluate those beliefs yetagain, and coming to a new place
of what it is, I BUlieve, andwant to believe going forward in
my life. And this subject forboth Jules and I is a very
relevant subject in terms of howyou create and define your
world, how you take it back, soit's not defined for you but
defined from within.
Jules_Williams (03:42):
One aspect for all of us when we we choose to
look back again, or investigateand see what it is we truly
believe? Do you think thephysical separation of distance
from moving from the US to theUK energetically opened up more
freedom to question certainbeliefs or what you believe in
or what you wanted to choosemoving forward to believe in?
Alison_Pothier (04:02):
I think it did for me. It may not have been
inherent in the move. It wasinherent in my mindset during
the move. At that time. I was inmy early 20s. And I had been at
a time in my life where I wasfeeling constricted by the
definition of myself as set upby the world around me. I wasn't
sure if I myself could own allof the beliefs that I was
(04:25):
carrying, but I didn't feel freeto be able to explore challenge
question fully those beliefswithout a certain distance to
where I was rooted. And wherethey were rooted. With a very,
very strong value system, notjust in the family, but in my
community and then in theextended community at large. And
(04:49):
then there was the Americancommunity and I was just
somebody who needed to knowwhether I BUlieved all of the
things that I had been toldabout what it meant to be any of
the things I was includingmyself. I undid my world
starting the minute I went away,I went into an identity crisis.
(05:09):
But I've been in more than onein my life I almost launched
them in order to re-define andre-define and rip labels off
myself to see if I can reallycome to what is authentically me
rather than stuck or imposed onme like a sticker, one that I'm
you know, agreed to wear.
Jules_Williams (05:27):
I think everybody, all the listeners
that are aware of any form ofself investigation, it can
sometimes not be pretty, but italso ultimately definitely ends
up much more rewarding for us interms of understanding ourselves
and our journey here. What'sinteresting, we said in this
episode, we're gonna cover somesort of areas which help as a
deep dive when we startinvestigating our own I BUlieve
(05:51):
what it is we truly believe inthese statements, these poetic
statements or life affirmingstatements that sort of start to
imbue how we see life how weinteract with life, how we want
to try and live our lives.
Interestingly straight off thebat, there were Al was talking
about a physical distance fromthe US to the UK and a
definitive mental statement ofwhich you said I'm gonna give
(06:11):
time and separation to look atand re-evaluate. I probably had
a similar trigger., when Istarted investigating in terms
of - I was very intuitive as akid, I used to see energies in
people energies of spirit, Ididn't have any frame of
reference for that. So I lostmyself in sport and used the
physical to sort of keep at bay,those intuitive vulnerabilities.
(06:31):
I didn't understand them as akid. And I went through sport
all the way through school allthe way through college, and
after college, I lived in thestates for a year and then
traveled Australia. And it'sinteresting, all of that
intuitive journey, I've sort ofkept slightly at bay during the
first 20 or so years of my life,having that freedom to travel,
being in a different countryhaving new experiences and the
(06:54):
freedom to enjoy those newexperiences, which you do when
you're traveling, startedbringing a lot of those thoughts
to the surface and I startedreading a lot more around the
subject experiencing otherpeople that had similar
journeys. I'm sure every one ofus and all the listeners, they
go on holiday, somewhere in aspecific place to go on holiday,
and they find themselveswandering into a museum or a
(07:14):
church or an old building or anold restaurant or bar. And
because you're on holiday,because you're in a different
environment, because your eyesare up and more aware in a way
that sometimes can be a greatstarting point for asking the
questions. That's why people goaway on weekend retreats, or go
away on holiday or go for a walkin the woods.
Alison_Pothier (07:37):
We go away to find ourselves.
Jules_Williams (07:39):
which shouldn't be definitive should it but it
is a point sometimes.
Alison_Pothier (07:43):
I think if you had a childhood experience
similar to your own, where youwere an intuitive child in a
home that didn't understandthat, you're in an identity
challenge right away. Some of usget that later. I was also like
you I was always somebody askingmyself who I am what I'm doing.
(08:07):
And somewhere along the way, Ifelt lost really early on being,
you know, one of six in themiddle, always questioning, I
guess who I was withinsomething. And I knew my heart.
And I was a sensitive soul. AndI was introverted, and couldn't
express that. So a lot of thingsthat I expressed out into the
world were in forms of poetryhidden, so no one could read it,
(08:31):
writing hidden so no one couldread it. And a very mathematical
mind trying to put everythingtogether. But when I got to
teenage years, where everybody'sin an identity crisis, it really
felt most lost and went off anddid volunteer work in a foreign
country - in Haiti, and thenwent into a wealth versus
(08:52):
poverty story, really feelingthe pain of the world and ended
up a banker. How do you end upan investment banker when you've
been understanding what ultrapoverty is. I was in 100%
conflict just every day fromchildhood through to getting a
job in investment banking, andalways feeling like my heart
(09:12):
wasn't adding up to the place myfeet were, then it just changed
country to make that morecomplicated. So somewhere along
the way, that all builds up, itbuilds up it builds up into this
thing where you're going to haveto reconcile with that and that
time is going to come What doyou believe? All of this has
been shown to you all of thishas been exposed to you,
(09:33):
influenced by the outside worldhanded to you, on top of you and
you're navigating a ship untilsuddenly you're in charge of
everything from the map to thedestination and for me, there
was a collision. What couldcollides colludes I say, there
was a collision, but that didn'thappen until my 30s.
Jules_Williams (09:52):
I can only talk from my own belief or my own
experience, but I thinkdefinitely our soul chooses to
come into this lifetime and hascertain lessons or
understandings or journeys thatwe want to go through to achieve
to understand ourselves. And allof what you're describing there
is almost like this perfectstorm of childhood and 20s and
(10:13):
30s, which gets all of us backto that question, Who am I? Why
am I here? What's my purpose?
and really simple words. Andyet, what we try and do with, I
BUlieve, is frame thosequestions, Who am I? Why am I
here? What's my purpose? It'sone way that we can start to
frame that by asking thequestions of ourselves by our
(10:33):
beliefs, or beliefs that haveshaped us the beliefs that we've
had thrust upon us, or force fedus or the beliefs that have come
out of empirical knowledge orkinesthetically feeling
ourselves, through experiences,and around the world. And all
those angles, some of thosebeliefs, it's time to adios time
to let go of them, time torevisit. And other ones, it's
(10:54):
time to bring more to the fore.
Like, I love what you said, youknow, earlier on Al with hidden
writing, when you were a kid, noone could see it, but you needed
to get it out. And it's almostlike, you're you're inverting
that and your writing is meantto be seen now.
Alison_Pothier (11:09):
It's our voice we find, you know, it's our
expression of ourselves out intothe world, we find a way to do
it. But we have to be ready Ithink internally to own it. I
hid my true beliefs deep insidemy heart because of the unsafety
of holding them, which I thinkwe see in the world now. The
unsafety of holding our truebeliefs. So many people holding
(11:30):
back their true tongue and somany others imposing their
tongue on the world. Somewhat inthe imposition, they don't even
really fully believe it, it washanded to them. They didn't come
to that themselves. They're justputting a sticker on the world
so it doesn't look deeper withinand question where that really
comes from. And then theyrealize they don't add up to the
statement they're making,either. I think that's why I hid
(11:50):
my writing while I wassearching, and I'm searching and
searching. And I want to makesure that when that comes
forward, that's allowed in me,my heart allows myself the
safety of being able to expressmy poetry and my music, my
writing into the world. And Ihaven't allowed that for a very
long time, for reasons of Do youreally believe that? Can you
(12:11):
still hang on to that. Now I'mgiving myself a little bit more
leeway with the ability to haveevolving understandings about
what I BUlieve and newawarenesses that feed new
abilities to stand behind them.
But I can stand now behind whatI BUlieve in this moment, even
if I may change that. Andtherefore my voice can get more
expressed or I can be moremyself and not having to wear a
(12:33):
suit I don't feel like wearinganymore. But it's it takes a
long time and long process. Andit usually takes something
colliding with you. Foryourself, you grow up this
intuitive kid you got intosports and personal training and
you still couldn't hide from it,it still followed you. True
beliefs sticks with you. And youhave to face it or a true you
(12:53):
sticks with you. How did that
Jules_Williams (12:57):
It all ties back to the I BUlieve. I'd have these
work for you?
like flippant simple statementsfor when someone would come to
me and automatically I'd writesome program out and then pick
up on an ailment or somethingelse that might be going on
internally in the body. They'dbe like that's is amazing, I am
feeling that or I do go throughthat. And then off they go. And
I'd be like nice, I just wingedthat. It would be almost like a
(13:19):
caveat I could I could laugh offfor myself, rather than say...
you just tapped into thatperson's soul, read a story of
what's going on and have helpedthem look at that story and heal
that story and move on. I didn'thave any of that language in my
early 20s when I was doing that.
So it's almost as if sport andthe physical hit a timeline with
spiritual growth and emotionalgrowth. I sought out work with
(13:42):
the subconscious, I did a veryintensive three year course with
dealing with the subconscious ofmy own emotional blocks from the
past, going through past lives,understanding cellular memories
that we hold in us. And that isone of my beliefs, which we'll
read out later on is thatcellular memory that we hold
that shapes us to and again, inthose cells will be beliefs that
(14:03):
come out into reality. Iactually started to face it head
on and say okay, well, this isgoing on. Let's open it up as
much as I can and see where I gowith it. And part time I
transitioned from working withpeople on a physical level to
working with people on anemotional and spiritual level
and using my intuition and theskills of my understanding of
(14:24):
the subconscious that way.
Alison_Pothier (14:27):
Yeah, So the way you did that is for anyone who
hasn't read your story, the wayyou did that, is you started out
obviously traditional PersonalTraining, and suddenly your
intuitions kicking off and youcan see the story. You can see
the reason they're not losingweight is because something
happened at six years old andyou can see what that is and you
started to know that if you tookback an aspect of yourself and
(14:50):
owned it that intuitive side ofyou and combined it with other
passions, of course that you hadbecause you were passionate
about the physical you could dosomething special with who you
really were, if you would allow.
And I know you do that withstorytelling, I watch you in
your interviews with people, andyou know, you do your directing,
but people don't know that whenyou're directing, you already
(15:13):
know where you're going thatyou're given the questions,
you're given the understandingof what to do to bring out the
truth of somebody, and you havea very special gift. And I know
you say you're a storyteller ishow you introduce yourself here.
But you're not an averagestoryteller. You're an intuitive
storyteller, you bringing theheart forward, and you're making
(15:35):
space for somebody who hasfreedom to do that. So when I
listen, and other people listento the stories that you get
told, they asked how you didthat. And that's another
formula. That's an authenticexistence, you showed up fully,
and you do that thing. I BUlievethat when we are in line with
what we truly believe in and aretruly being. So that's why we
(15:58):
say be and believe in you. Theauthentic you, when you're truly
being that it's got a magic toit. It has this extra
dimensional sense it's making ofthings or extra dimensional
capability of deliveringsomething not just authentic,
but inspired. And as a result,the reason we talk about helping
(16:19):
people or saying people it's agood time to stop and think
about what you believe. We'resaying just so you can find your
magic, why do we think youshould look, because there's a
magic wand hanging out rightthere. And if you are underneath
pain, or you are underneath aworld of having to show up and
be what everybody's expecting ofyou, and you're stuck. The best
(16:41):
starting point is to take a stepback and to start looking at the
beliefs you hold, the ones thatyou know you hold or were handed
to you, and the ones that you'rehiding inside that you hold that
no one else can know that youhold. To start to understand
what it is that's creating theworld we're in.
Jules_Williams (17:00):
When we talk today on what are some of the
diving in points for us to goand have a look at our I
BUlieve, even that example thereif we take us back to 20
something year old me and I'vegot somebody on the treadmill,
and you could say on a physicallevel, and bear with me on this
because this is going to pan outfor both Al and I and our ways
that we feel or see things andthey'd be on the treadmill and
(17:21):
you could on one level say okay,where's their heart rate? What's
their cadence? How are theyhandling this? We're trying to
help this person lose weight.
And then before you know it, I'mhaving a conversation about six
year old them. And what'ssurfacing is dad left home, the
woman thought it was her faultas a six year old. And of course
it wasn't and we're just talkingout this story. And that's where
it's the way I was always shown.
(17:44):
So if I was directing twowell-known personalities for a
discussion, for a conversation,upstairs would show me to just
spend time on eight year oldthem, there's some story there.
So I'd quietly, direct them andguide them into almost like a
healing or a sharing or anunderstanding would come out
that it might not have eventhought about it for a while and
I'm saying that because if I goto look at my own I BUlieve it's
(18:06):
almost like I ask and I throwthem out there in thought
because I see very quickly inthought and what I've witnessed
with Al sees so clearly andfeels her way through thought
and you can obviously explainthat a lot better than me
because you live with it all thetime. But I've watched Al be in
someone's company or helpingthem or coaching them and
healing them and feeling almostwhere energetically this stories
(18:28):
going on in their body. So, thatin the real time moment as we're
doing this podcast brings aquestion, you know, Al, I ask
myself tha, would you feel outyour I BUlieves more? Whereas I
might see my I BUlievestatements and thoughts, would
you feel yours out.
Alison_Pothier (18:42):
I'd probably feel my reaction to them. So if
I wrote down a sentence thatsays I BUlieve this and I tried
to read it out, I would possiblyvomit if I was in conflict with
them, I would have a physicalreaction to it or a physical
experience of it. If itresonated in the heart, it would
go right in like you know, TaChing that makes sense. And when
(19:04):
I'm in conflict with literallykicks me in the stomach. For
some people, they think that's aphrase, for me, it's an absolute
punch in the stomach and it'spainful. So we're talking about
intuition really, and howintuition overlays with our
beliefs. But I think the cleareryou are on understanding who you
are and your emotional landscapeand your real truths, the
clearer your intuition is. Andwhen you're telling yourself
(19:28):
lies or you're trying to believesomething you don't really
believe whatever, your intuitionhas as much inaccuracy built
into it. So who is our originalself and our original self is
extra sensory. We know what weneed to know, see what we need
to see, feel what we need tofeel and we can navigate life
without the influence of anybodyelse. If we can shift the
(19:50):
influence of everybody else andwe will be adding up to
something that can be reallyinspired. So we're talking about
intuition and belief and howthey're running side By side. My
intuition works through feeling,yours is profoundly thought, I
mean, literally is just athought and is absolutely clear.
Mine is, somebody could betalking to me, they're telling
(20:11):
me they're fine. And I know thatthey're harboring a heart ache
that is so bad, I'm going todouble over. And I have to find
a way to either exit theconversation and still have my
heart intact, or bring that upin a way that doesn't expose
somebody, but invites that painto come out. And in my coaching,
I will know whether somebody'ssaying, Hey, I'm totally on
(20:32):
course with this, and this iswhere I want to go. And I'm
like, that's great. I'm glad youhave that plan, you are
absolutely not adding up tothat. So your energy is in
conflict with your words. And Ican help you with that. We can
ask why. And boom, you know,you're on to a whole subject
that once revealed and healeddoes make the dream add up to
(20:53):
the desire, but not when thestory underneath it is in
conflict. And I feel my waythrough that you see and know
how can we be ourselves in thoseconversations, if I remember the
beginning of coaching coming outof like a really traditional
executive career where you getevaluated on your performance,
you have skills and tasks andways you do them. But it's kind
(21:14):
of one dimensional in terms ofyour ability to succeed. It was
really challenging to be able tobe who I was in it, versus who
everybody else was in it. Iwasn't the same coach, as a
coach gets trained to be, youcould call me a coach. And I
wouldn't add up to theexpectation. Yes, I can perform
(21:35):
those functional coachingthings. But I had things going
on in conversations, I waslistening to more than one
conversation at the same timeand needing to interrupt
somebody, say, you know, I knowwe're going down this path, and
a psychotherapist will allow youto go down that for an hour. And
there you go. But you're goingto waste an hour's time, because
that's not what's bothering you.
Who am I to say that, except forI know that so I interject that.
(21:57):
So it puts me on the spot tohave to be free to be authentic
and not afraid of therepercussions of that.
Jules_Williams (22:06):
And I've watched that in you all the time. And I
see you embody that more so thananybody I know. That's a real
help. I'd say to us in terms ofsharing 'Now it's your turn.
What do you believe?' There yougo. There's a there's a little
vignette we've just covered inthat part is aah okay. So it's
not just a question of I'm goingto write it down or I'm going to
think about it. I'm going to sayit out loud because Al's very
(22:28):
musical. I am around a lot ofmusicians and their hearings,
amazing. And even theirintuition probably comes
predominantly through sound eventhough as Alison said a minute
ago, we have all of those multisenses. But they predominantly
probably do it through Sound. Soaah okay, I'm gonna write down
my I BUlieve, I'm going to thinkabout it. I'm going to write it
down. I'm going to say it outloud. I'm going to roll it
(22:51):
around my tongue. And I'm goingto imagine myself taking part in
that statement of what I BUlievein and see how it feels. Does it
actually jar against my body? Ordoes it feel pretty anchored and
empowering and look at itmultisensory? Because they will
give you clues about how potentthat belief is. within you.
Alison_Pothier (23:12):
Yeah, and so to take your musician thing forward
is I'm quite auditory tooclairaudient and clear hearing.
And like a musician, I have tohear it and feel it. And a
musician will hear somethingthat doesn't resonate, we do as
people, we listen to peopletalking. We know when it doesn't
(23:33):
resonate. It's a vibration. If amusician is doing their I
BUlieve one way to know whetherthey believe it is to hear it
back and hear whether or not itresonates and which sentence
jars in their ear and wheretheir beat is off. And if it is
off don't just push through that- ask. What about that? And
where am I stuck? And what elsedo I hear when I say that
(23:55):
sentence? We've seen so manypeople in our interviews or they
had it all written out, they'reready to go and their mouth
won't deliver that word. And itsounds funny. So we'll stop and
say every other note soundednormal, but that one so what's
going on there? Oh, my mother'sin my eyes. And when I say this,
I can hear her going on that'snot true or my friends. And so
(24:16):
I'm having a hard time sayingthis because it's going to
conflict with these people.
Okay, well, what would you dothat could correct that for you
that you can say that samesentiment and it will flow
easier for you? I'm a feeler. Ihave to hear it and feel it. You
know whether it resonates andthen you know when you're in
conflict and you have to bereally honest with yourself.
Other people, their intuitioncomes through taste and smell
(24:37):
and all sorts of sensoryunderstandings about how
something resonates as truth tothem. If we watch somebody on
stage, speaking a room will gosilent when truth is speaking.
When noise is speaking, data,facts, whatever the room will be
noisy. People will be shiftingin their seats, truth resonates
and we know it so when we're inour truth, others know it. When
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we're out of line withourselves. Others hear it and
particularly those who know youreally well. Oh, yeah, you're
just bullshitting right there?
Come on, give it to me straight.
What are you hiding? We can'thide from ourselves.
Jules_Williams (25:13):
Having laid that out. I think that's one aspect
of so many levels that are opento us by investigating our I
BUlieve, but because we'retalking about how it feels, how
we think about it, how itsounds, there's two things. One,
we mentioned last week, whenwe're talking about it, it is a
journey, our I BUlieve, and Imyself, I wrote my first one in
(25:35):
around about 1988, and I'mprobably on my eighth or ninth
iteration now. But the last oneI wrote was about three years
ago in 2017. So I haven't reallylooked at it even for the last
three years. So I thought, ifyou're happy to let's read it
out now. And then I can gothrough and see some of that
will have changed or some won'tresonate or some will not feel
(25:58):
right, even though it would havefelt right in 2017 at the time.
And again, there's anotheraspect that Al and I are going
to talk through as this seriesgoes on even the way that you
frame your I BUlieve statements.
I like words, and I like poetry,and I like sort of mixing them
up. So not only the statementsthemselves, but the way they get
framed and how they come out isa little poetic, some people's
might come out in song somepeople's might literally come
(26:19):
out in a sentence after sentenceafter sentence. That's again,
another beauty of it. But that'sfor something that we're going
to cover in a later episode. IfI run through mine...
I BUlieve in the soul and our jurney through many lives u
ique and unrepeatable and yet samped with the patterning of h
man experience and emotions fmiliar to all. I BUlieve in t
e power of the subconscious. Ad I BUlieve in an infinite l
(26:41):
ght and loving source, but oly once you are willing to a
cept that the infinite source ialso an aspect of you. I B
lieve in the power of story, ceativity and writing it out. I
Ulieve in kidi, in chi and I alo BUlieve we live in the age of
the Ronin, a time of the spritual warrior without a ma
ter other than the infinite souce that is also within. I BUl
eve in the Native American medcine animals, especially ba
(27:03):
ger (you can look it up), andalso in dolphin, playfull
reminding us of the alchemy obreath. I BUlieve in Zuma Be
ch - from Trancas to the Point -here those very dolphins
play their medicine holisticaly with the pelicans and the wh
les in the cleansing ocean thatolds hands with ionized air. W
en I say, I BUlieve in story,mean the story we tell our
elves and others storieof how we perceive I and i
(27:25):
to be. And, of course, I BUlive in the birthing of cre
tion through woven narratives,torytelling on the page, in
film or around the liteal or metaphorical campfire.
I BUlieve in every cell, in celllar memory and the cleansing of
our awareness from the inside ou. I also BUlieve in karma, bu
have to be specific, not tenous, with that belief. Ka
ma, as in Universal Law,eturn to Sender, our own intenti
(27:48):
ns delivered back to our own frot door, but knowing this a
so means not policing it becaue the as, the when and the how i
not for us to decide. I BUlievin the many words and teaching
of other fellow souls, but stuggle with the rhetoric of posi
ive statement where, for examle, 'live in the moment' and '
e here now' lose potency fromepetitive mantra and end up hid
en in plain sight, their valuediminished from drowning the
(28:10):
motional marketplace and dlivering limp and sodden sup
rlatives lost to the all-encopassing caveat of noise. Talking
of which, I do BUlievein unconditional love and
uthenticity, specifically throuh witnessing their energy in
ction in my wife, Alison, thelearest reflection of the auth
ntic I have yet to see. IUlieve in the power of our
intuition, the wild silver Brumy, the vibration of words a
(28:31):
d, most of all, I BUlieve inthe ability to shine a light br
ghter than the mass mediof fear and control that is
ttempting to play backgammonSo that was three years ago, and
there's a few things that jumpout as more apt there, you're
smiling did you have...
I think evolvingfirst is definitely the medicine
Alison_Pothier (28:43):
No I was just thinking out of all of that. If
you were to close your eyes andsay one of those sentences that
resonates either as truth or aseditable, what's your deepest
truth out of all that stillr is something that you're ev
lving.
animals. And it's interestingbecause at the period of time
(29:04):
I'd have written that badgermedicine, by the way is very
much about constructiveaggression. And I was working
with harnessing the energy ofaggression but in a constructive
way. But I'd probably bechanneling a different medicine
animal at this moment in time torewrite it.
I think dolphinsstill a good one
Jules_Williams (29:20):
Dolphin stays.
Alison_Pothier (29:21):
Geez we need to get more dolphin
Jules_Williams (29:23):
Never more so than now. And I'm talking for
you darling. But you and I areenjoying our stretch of Trancus
to the Point on the beach andnature that's out there. So
that's why I mentioned badgerand left dolphin because dolphin
stays in for now. Certainlywithout going on about it is
that implicit belief within thewe have that power of intuition
(29:43):
we have that power of thesubconscious and our light is
infinite. And if we can reallykeep focusing on working on our
vibration that makes the changeout into the world
Alison_Pothier (29:53):
When you believe in the meaning of the soul. It's
light, it's infinitepossibilities.
Jules_Williams (29:58):
The statement was in an earlier iteration
where I implicitly BUlieve thatthe external world is living
feedback of our internalreality. And that would probably
come back in again, as astatement.
Alison_Pothier (30:09):
Yeah, I can see that. In experiencing your, I
BUlieve - listening, right? Andwhat we said we should do badger
stood out for me listening. Andin my mind as you read it, I
Jules_Williams (30:19):
And even that 'I can't breathe' and dolphin is
thought to myself, I wonder ifhe would still say that, because
I know badger was a reallyimportant animal guide for you
during the early years ofspiritual work with people. And
I've found it interesting thatbadger would remain. It was just
(30:42):
a thought it just kind of cameand I'm like, that's interesting
that badgers still held throughOkay, well, then there you go. I
didn't know you would saybadger, actually. And I think
it's quite funny. But we arethat in tune with each other, we
do share common thoughts, whichI always still find magical when
that happens. But yeah, badgerstood out for me. And I'd be
interested in the listeners tosee whether or not actually that
(31:05):
stood out, or what else stoodout. Because your feedback and
their feedback to you wouldprobably be really interesting,
them going do you believe thatnow? because when you said that
I felt this or when you saidthat I thought this of myself?
Okay, well, is that a reflectionof the listener? Is that a
reflection of you? And as alistener, we always should be
thinking about ourselves first,certainly. But usually, there's
(31:28):
an 'and' you and me. And so Iwas reflecting on badger too
going yeah, it's not necessarilyever been my spirit animal. But
I can appreciate how dolphin isgoing to have to go the distance
with us because, in fact,probably not paying enough
attention these days. And I'mnot sure how many are in the
world, I mean, play is gettig just squeezed right out of u
. and hard work versus heart wok is also squeezed out of us
(31:51):
t the moment.
all about the breath, right? Andthe whole assault on the breath
that is going on in the world aswe speak at this moment.
Alison_Pothier (32:02):
And so to come to making a statement, I
BUlieve, like your yours has,and you've done a formalized
statement of your beliefs moreoften than I have. I've done
formalized statements ofintentions -once. Manifestation
lists, I've done more internalchallenging of my beliefs, as
opposed to statement of.
Jules_Williams (32:23):
I may have written more over the years,
which is the joy of doing them.
And we should always championourselves and not look back, I
can see different levels ofgrowth within myself to get to
like where you are now whereyou're older and fully formed.
Alison_Pothier (32:36):
That's very kind of you. And you've given me more
credit than I will when I findout what I actually wrote. No
what I was thinking is you covera lot of different areas. So
when when we're thinking abouttraditional beliefs, or what we
would actually put on a piece ofpaper, you're covering kind of a
really colorful spectrum. So yougot things in there about the
place you live, okay, you talkreally specifically about Zuma
(32:59):
beach, and then you talkphilosophical thoughts. So
here's what I BUlieve aboutkarma. Here's what I BUlieve
about the importance of yourlight in the world. And then you
go to childhood specifics orthings that feed you and I like
the permission for all of thatrather than it has to be all
philosophy because a belief isonly philosophy. No, we're
saying it's a mix, becausethey're all aspects of yourself
(33:23):
and formed, formulating loves.
Jules_Williams (33:26):
Definitely. And I think you and I are both so
clear with others when we workwith them and and when we go
through this is there is noright or wrong. I BUlieve. As
long as you have taken the timewith yourself and investigated
it. It can be funny, it can beflippant, it can be
philosophical as Al was sayingthere, it can be spiritual, it
could be very pragmatic, itcould be projectionist or
(33:47):
futuristic, as long as we takeour time with ourselves and
unravel how that comes out.
However, it comes out as ifwe've taken the time to go
within to investigate and tofeel our way around our own
personal I Bulieve, then it'sperfect and the joy is we can
come back and revisit it. What'sinteresting when we were talking
last week, I was trying toexplain I BUlieve in other
people's teachings and fellowsoul but there is this current
(34:09):
thought I have a lot of themoment where Facebook, Instagram
all social media are rife almostwith positive spiritual yogic
statements. So I mentionedspecifically in here 'live in
the moment' 'be in the now' butI think they're losing their
potency because they' are beingseen or said so often. So what
we're trying to explain lastweek was okay what is Be Here
(34:30):
Now, if you love that, just givea feeling of it in your
statement of what it feels liketo you or a specific place where
you can be here now, either witha person or a place or in nature
so it is ones to expand out onbut then also I'm reading that
and I'm laughing to myselfbecause I have a whole internal
journey for example with IBUlieve in the wild silver
(34:51):
Brumby, a regular person thatwould be reading mine or
listening to that knows none ofthat story and I haven't shared
a feeling as to why it was achildhood book that gave a whole
depth of emotion to me and ofwhich I enjoyed, I BUlieve in
the wild silver brumby. So thereis no right or wrong as we're
saying there, whether they comeout fully formed and
investigative or shared as afeeling or literally is a word
(35:12):
or a statement that meanssomething to us personally and
has a story behind it.
Alison_Pothier (35:17):
Well, the wild silver Brumby in your
subconscious will take that tothe whole three dimensional
understanding about what thatis, somebody else may have a
different orientation even tothe word wild to the word brumby
but your whole being doesn'tneed expansion in the statement
because it's already expansionwithin you. What you're trying
(35:37):
to say there is be here now inmany cases isn't expanded within
us. It's so overly expressedoutside it's expressed for us
and you're saying where it'sbeen expressed for you not from
within you, somebody gave youthose words, add so that you
contextualize or expand that foryou. So that is you, you do
(35:58):
believe that but you believethat in your understanding and
your experience of what thosewords really mean for you. And
you've looked at physical,you've looked at emotional,
you've looked at spiritual,you've looked at family, etc. I
think for me, when I come to thestatements of I BUlieve, we got
brought up in church, you know,I lived in church, and anyone
(36:21):
who knows our family knows welived in church, like literally
surrounded by priests in thefamily, all the friends of and
also social life in church, myyounger brother used to be the
altar boy and sit behind thepriests mouthing every single
word because he knew it so wellas a result those words are in
(36:41):
us. And one of those prayers theNicene Creed starts I BUieve,
Jules_Williams (36:46):
How did I not know that? us married and all
Alison_Pothier (36:49):
I think you've stood in church with me and
these things to discover.
heard it but never had yourselfto say it. I believe in one God
the Father, the almighty,creator of heaven and earth, and
it goes on and and all that isseen and unseen. It wasn't until
in my 30s Yeah, pretty muchbecause that's where everything
got really questioned, where Istuttered in that I believe in
(37:10):
one God, do I? the father theAlmighty, okay, do I? the
creator of heaven and earth, andall that is seen and unseen. And
actually, I thought, well, I cantake one of those sentences in
more than I ever could. And someof the sentences I actually have
to go through for myself andfigure out how I would
contextualize them because I'mmaking this promise every time I
(37:31):
go to church, and I'm not sure.
And it was helpful, it was froma friend at the time, I owned
the center in London, Inside outRetreats, and I was surrounded
by big thinkers in the spiritualworld. And they had also come up
with different churchedbackgrounds, and were still
celebrating their religiousbackgrounds along with their
expanded understanding of theirlives now. They were working on
(37:53):
marrying the old and the new forthem. And this one woman who was
standing next to me, she wasquite influential for me, said
listen to that line, I believein the seen and the unseen. I
believe in the seen and unseen Ibelieve in an everlasting life.
She's like, Where's the conflictAl? You finally get to admit
that you believe there's more tolife than meets the eye and
(38:15):
always have and in aneverlasting life. Well, where's
the conflict with past lifepresent life whatever, no such
thing as time so the souls neverreally died. So you're good. You
can explore any of this stuffit's just permission granted to
take a wider look at what elseother people are contextualizing
may be different than the wordsyou grew up with. But maybe
(38:37):
you're not as in conflict withsome of the new understandings
as you thought you were based onyour old understandings. Maybe
they all merge, but I havequestions you know, your gang
given sentences you practicethose sentences, you know those
sentences do you qustiion thoseand when do you and oh my god,
oh my gosh, oh, my goodness.
(38:59):
What is it to say I don'tbelieve in God. Okay, well, what
if you do but not in thedescription you were brought up
with? Or what if you believe inenergy, it doesn't matter. As
long as you understand the wayyou're understanding whatever
words you're using, and they canauthentically resonate from you.
If they were given to us aschildren practiced in us as
(39:20):
children and never questioned inus, they're going to have to
come into question in order foryou to resonate with them as
your own truth versus an imposedtruth that you're practicing
probably to please somebody, asopposed to actualize that within
your own world, and as soon asyou pleasing somebody you're out
of step with yourself anyway.
And so that practice for me hasbeen to question everything.
(39:42):
When my life collided withitself in my 30s - husband
having an affair, top of mycareer, lots of bad stuff going
on in an organization andeverything I thought I
understood myself to be - rugpulled out of underneath me
overnight and free to questionfree you to be mad at the whole
understanding I had of itbecause it's not working to that
(40:02):
understanding, why is the worldnot work to these rules. Do unto
others? What!! I don't thinkanyone else is doing that, or
they are, but it's not verynice. And is there more, you
know, was there meaning andpurpose and intention in life
was the question. When I startedto ask myself what I BUlieve
does it matter? Well, it came tothe point where it mattered so
(40:24):
much it was about life, it wasabout whether or not I wanted
one, because if it didn'tmatter, if it didn't add up, and
it didn't resonate with me as aneed for some form of truth that
defined some sort of possibilitythat could make a better life
for me and a happier one, then Iwasn't interested. I wanted out
of the way, it all worked, thisinsignificance of anything we
(40:46):
believe, but I had to own my ownbeliefs, because the ones
imposed on me they didn't workthe way I understood them, to.
I'll share some of mine.
Jules_Williams (40:57):
Can't wait to hear yours. I haven't heard it
read out in all its capacity,and you shared what's quite a
religious centric, one for wantof a better word, upbringing and
what you went through thatbrought you to a point. I wrote
a chapter in my book The WeighForward called the god issue.
And ultimately, what I explainedin there, and we talked about
this a little bit last week, ifyou want to revisit Episode One,
(41:18):
is all of us, every single oneof us on this planet will have
to at some point, ask thequestion, do I BUlieve in a
higher source a higher power?
Are you comfortable with theword God? Is it something else
and not having had a religiousupbringing as you did, I was
quite comfortable with the wordGod. I did explain this last
week too. We are a soul and,whether we take it as our
familial lineage or whether wetake it as past lives, there has
(41:40):
been a huge amount of man-madereligious indoctrination on all
of us as souls over the last fewthousand years. So whichever way
we dress it up, and again, wedid the apple pie section last
week, it's a great startingpoint in doing your, I BUlieve,
is to go in spiritually and say,Do I BUlieve in God, in a higher
power. When I was doing my owninvestigation, my own journey
(42:03):
myself and my subconscious andmy healing, I fell upon like an
all encompassing caveat. When Ilink in when I ask when I
connect to my higher power, Ialways say Father, God, Mother,
God, great spirit, InfiniteLight loving source feels very
comfortable to me, I know whatthat means in my cells, and my
connection with with upstairs asI call it with the highest
source. So it's one not toavoid, and I've had famous
(42:25):
people I've done on a TV showthat I used to do back in the
UK, complete atheists, and havegot the best arguments for there
is no God, and we can chat andwe can talk. And then we go back
to a huge life event that makesit far more comfortable to
protect oneself thinking thatthere isn't a higher source or
not part of it. But whether somepeople are happy talking Mother
(42:46):
Earth, some people are happytalking light sunlight, however,
rather than shy away from it,avoid it, or if we do have
dogmatic beliefs about it -fine, but explore them first,
and then come out with some kindof belief statement around how
you fit into this world, with orwithout spirituality.
Alison_Pothier (43:06):
And even using the term God means something so
different to everybody. And sothat's one of those ones to
expand on. Yes, but I see itthis way. No, because it's said
this way, it's still down towhat you believe, a universal
wisdom, somebody else calls thatGod, some calls that a man in a
chair, whatever it is, for you,it's fine, it is just important
(43:28):
to reconcile with the self wherethat is separate from the human
intervention within the church,the church has a spirit, it's
got a soul too, the humansmessing with it. And I mean,
that of all churches, allchurches have souls separate
from the human messing with it,and the human representing it
and human representing it hastheir own story. So discernment,
(43:50):
we talked last week about theneed to be able to discern for
yourself your beliefs within abelief system, and then take
responsibility for them and whatthey're creating in the world.
Now it's your turn. What do youBUlieve? Now it's my turn, what
do I BUlieve? All right, thiswas a draft. Now, I did not
actually reread this. And I donot remember fully what I said.
(44:11):
So
Jules_Williams (44:11):
Even better.
Alison_Pothier (44:12):
I BUlieve that what we truly believe, is born
in the heart not in the mind ad that to change one's mind, w
have to heal the heart. I Blieve that our beliefs can and s
ould change every day, all the tme, because by evolving our b
liefs, we create new pssibilities in the world. I B
lieve that what we believe rsonates as truth in our world a
(44:36):
d creates, manifests the world aound us and the outcomes p
ssible for us. We will alwayse right about what we believe
s possible, therefore I BUlievehat changing our beliefs can
hange the world from the insideut and open us up to new
ossibilities and outcome forur world. I BUlieve that wh
t we believe has a vibratin and that when we truly believe
(44:59):
in something, that somethng becomes truth and manife
ts in form. Therefore, I BUlievthat when we change our belief
, we change our resonance and ththings that no longer vibe w
th us can no longer attracto us. I BUlieve that what w
believe matters most in the wold, because without owning
our beliefs and what they crate in the world, we disempo
(45:21):
er ourselves and allow others tinfluence our beliefs and cr
ate their own outcomes by the poer to infiltrate your truths
- the truths that create truthin the world. Own our beli
fs and we own our world and itoutcomes, freedoms and possib
lities. Surrender our belies to others, and our outco
es, freedoms and possiilities are no longer arisi
(45:45):
g from us authentically, but iposed on us with agenda. To be
ieve takes courage to facefaith and win. It takes cour
ge, commitment and persverance to heal and reco
cile our worlds from the insie out. To truly believe req
ires a reconciliation of all thawe don't believe or we can
(46:06):
t believe in. To say we blieve is to say we trust that
e are SAFE to believe, safe totrust, safe to have faith,
afe to surrender control withoutfearing control safe to believ
BEYOND THE FEAR of believng, beyond the fear of bein
naive, being ignorant,eing disappointed, being gu
lible, being played, being theool, and the fear of findin
(46:28):
out we should never have beleved in the first place. We trus
it is SAFE to hope, to trustto express and to follow our he
rts to trust magic, intution and the guidance of our own
inner truths and knowingTO BELIEVE in our power and
that it doesn't requirepower struggle to do so. We
rust we are safe to allowpower without needing to fight o
(46:49):
resist, to allow birth of all wcreate believing it is safe to
o so, trusting in love and emrace when we do it. To truly be
ieve is to allow safety, tallow materialization, creatio
, abundance of all we hold insidand can dream into existence.
o say we BUlieve - to truly BUleve - is to say you are free to
(47:11):
e you. To be and be you, to bend believe in you, to be and liv
as you. I BUlieve that lif's journey is one big journey
o learn to believe and to band believe in you."
Jules_Williams (47:28):
Love it.
Alison_Pothier (47:29):
So it's pretty good.
Jules_Williams (47:30):
Really good. You did double the work there. So
you did your own I BUlieve andyou did the collective I BUlieve
for I BUlieve.
Alison_Pothier (47:38):
But I think if we use that or put that stuff,
somewhere we have the ability toalso have that online and
accessible to people and pose itas what I BUlieve is really
trying to say is like it takescourage to believe. Every time
you say I BUlieve in the factthat magic can happen in my
life. You're just facing thefear of the disappointed dreamer
(47:59):
and the fear of idealisticthoughts and the fear that
you're just going to find outthere is no God and it is a big
failing. And I think for me whenlife collided, that's exactly
what happened is I met with adisillusionment. What kind of
God would let that happen to me?
What kind of God would let theDo unto others not be the golden
rule for everybody? Maybe thereis no God. And that undermined
(48:20):
all my world, the whole world Igot brought up in. So I BUlieve
you have to go back and rewritethe rules in order to really
make the beliefs that you havework for you in the world. I
know I BUlieve in I BUlieve,because I know how important I
BUlieve is. And it's soimportant. This is the way I
would describe it, which doesresonate with me.
Jules_Williams (48:43):
Where do we get time if we don't give ourselves
permission time to investigatethat statement? We're talking
huge themes of the journey ofthe human soul by understanding
our connection to ourspirituality, and to magic per
se. If it was ever clear lastweek in Episode One, when we
were doing the podcast is sayingwe hardly give ourselves five
(49:04):
minutes of contemplation. Oreven if you know we joke with
with meditate, right meditationtime, get out the calm app, play
something, and off you go. Andyou're fed and meditation on the
app. And yes, that's beingcheeky in using that example.
But what you're sharing therewith that confrontation of
beliefs around God and magic,and that is the ultimate
(49:26):
journeys of why we're here. Sothat's the depth that we keep
sharing and offering up to thelistener is, it will all be
there for you. If you take thetime to go and ask those
questions and not be fearful, bebrave, and just write it out.
Think about it, get it on paper,and be brave to say Actually, I
didn't want to go there for anumber of reasons. But now I've
(49:48):
gone there. It wasn't so scary.
And actually, I'm rejuvenatebecause I've come out with a
more certain belief.
Alison_Pothier (49:54):
If you want to get in touch with either of us.
One of the things you know maybeyou're listening to this, and
we're triggering thoughts or youneed support in addressing the
Jules_Williams (50:02):
And that's I BUlieve www.ibulieve.com and
world that you are in orshifting it to reflect a better
version of yourself. You cancontact us at anytime - or get
in touch with us on our websites- www.ibulieve.com, you can
contact us there, reference thispodcast and we are offering 10%
off of an introductory coachingsession with either Jules or I
(50:22):
as support for people duringthis time who are trying to wrap
their heads around the new themand the world they want to
believe inthank you so much for all the
feedback again on episode onelast week, you know where Alison
and I are coming from, from ussharing our stories too it's a
simple thing like a statement ofwhat it is you truly believe in
(50:45):
and its one of the deepest divesif you choose to go there you
can do as well. Unravellinghealing and past things you
might want to let go of andbringing forward to the fore
more of a vision of how you wantto move forward, it can all be
unveiled wihthin going throughthe process of doing an I
BUlieve which both Alison and Ilove coaching people through to
(51:05):
do.
Alison_Pothier (51:07):
Let's start a movement lets shift
consciousness by inviting betterbeliefs in the world and stating
them together. Instead ofinnundating the world with
negative news let's innundatethe world with a counter force
so strong that its a wave no-onesaw coming and to me making
those statements in my own lifemattered, my life came tumbling
(51:31):
down on the back of the need toquestion everything I BUlieved
in and rebuild it to be my own,so when words come out of my
mouth they are my truth and Ican stand by them and I have the
courage of them and the faith inthem, it takes a lot of work,
I'm still working on it.
Jules_Williams (51:49):
I've seen that work in action with you and
we've been rumbled, viewerswe've been rumbled thats how
passionate we BUlieve in. Let'sstart a movement, let's you guys
have your voice. We are going toexplain as the podcast goes on
how you can send in either avisual or a recorded I BUlieve
of your own.
Alison_Pothier (52:06):
So now its your turn, everyone out there
listening take a step back andask yourself what do you BUlieve
and pass that on to those aroundyou
Jules_Williams (52:15):
Lets get this movement going
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