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May 10, 2022 • 78 mins

Text Us Your Side Quests

Welcome to the beginning of our podcast! For our first episode we thought it would be beneficial for you all to get to know us a bit more and get an understanding of what we'd like to bring to the podcast world. We talk a bit about our gaming history, what brought us together, and spill some fresh local tea!

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(00:00):
Hello everybody and welcome tothe first episode of
Are You Podcasts?
I Don't Believe in Sight causeyou can see her both really
excited.
My name is Gabe, also known asJohn Twitch.
And this is my co-host, Sweet.
Oh, gosh. Lauren, also knownas Sweetie on Twitch.

Lauren (00:21):
It's an adjustment.
I know.

Gabe (00:23):
It is. Yeah.
Yeah, that's why I kind of.
I wanted to mention them,like, in case we, you know,
interchange them.
I feel like we're gonna try touse gave them Lauren, but in
case we use the other ones,then we'll know
kind of what we were thinking.
A typical podcast, you know,for us would be is like or an
episode would be like, youknow, an intro kind of talking

(00:44):
about our days, maybe thingsthat have been going on and
then kind of going into a maintopic and then kind of ending
with some local drama andkind of like a recap of
everything.

Lauren (00:55):
Yeah. So basically we're streamers or friends.
We are going to be talkingabout games, we're going to
be talking about technology,life updates, whatever else
truly springs into ourlittle brains.
Yes. Hi, I'm Lauren, alsoknown as Sweep Tap on Twitch.
I started streaming onTwitch in October of 2020.

(01:15):
The pandemic had hit.
My fiance and I were justhome all the time,
not going out.
My social life up till thenhad been going, you know,
out to theater,to plays, getting drinks
with my friends.
And so I was so lonely.
And Idaho, my fiance, alsoknown as Mike, he

(01:40):
streams under Idaho, but he wasused to playing games
with his friends remotelybecause a group of his
friends were back home wherehe was from.
And so he justhad that community that was
already kind of preset.
So when the pandemic hit,yes, absolutely.
He was sad. He didn't get tosee friends in person,

(02:02):
but he did have the abilitythat was already set
up and already created thathe could just play games
with them, talk with them ondiscord.
And I didn't have any ofthat built out.
None of my friendsplayed games, really.
And so I was justso lonely and just so
jealous that he was ableto still maintain that

(02:24):
sort of social interaction.
And he also was watchingTwitch and I had really
never watched Twitch before,and so he was watching it.
And that kind of introducedme to Twitch and I started
finding streamers,especially female streamers,
who I was really kind ofconnecting to.

(02:47):
And it definitelykind of broadened my idea
of, Oh, hold on,I could do this and I
could meet people this way,and this could be a way for
me to get social interactionas well.
So I was really drawn tothat idea of streaming
and I started streamingStardew Valley.

(03:07):
We built me a gamingcomputer again.
This is back in October of 2020.
Yep, yep, yep. I know whatyear it is.

Gabe (03:16):
I don't know.

Lau (03:19):
But I didn't have a concept of my channel. I didn't know
what I wanted to play.
I didn't know what kind ofpeople I wanted to connect to.
I started playing the NancyDrew games off stream
and just kind of fit innostalgia.
I just didn't knowwhat I wanted to play it.
They just seemed socomforting to me.
And I was about to playTreasure in the Royal Tower

(03:41):
as part of my playthrough,and my sister
wanted to watch me streamthose just because they were
really important to ourchildhood.
And that night,the first night that I
started streaming, NancyDrew, I just joined a
community of Nancy Drewstreamers.
And I was not expecting that.

(04:04):
I wasn't expecting a lot ofpeople to be out playing it.
I wasn't expecting so manypeople to still love all of
those games.
And I found some of thepeople who I've truly spent
so much time with inthe past year.
Basically people I've spentthe most time with other
than my fiance andGabe rated me.

(04:28):
Did we decide it was mysecond ever Nancy Stream?

Gabe (04:31):
I think it was because it was the Royal
Tower in the tower.
I remember because I love thatone. And I was like, She's
playing treasure.

Lauren (04:43):
Yeah, the universe is like, okay, let's just
expedite this friendship.
Let's just not waste any time.
Let's get it going.
And so yeah, a yearlater we are here is
starting up this podcast,which is.

Gabe (04:59):
Literally.
Our our friend adversary giveto each other. Let's make a
baby and start a podcast.
I mean, it was like two daysearly, but, like, you know.
Yeah, well, okay.
Since you talked about yourstreaming, I guess I'll talk a
bit about mine.
I've been on Twitch for,like, you know, a long time.

(05:19):
A long time.
So, like, my account that Iuse now and then.
Yeah, Thomas has, I think, Imean, like 2016, but
I was on Twitch a little bitbefore that.
Just.
I guess the main reason waslike,
you only have so much money,right? Like, you can't buy
every single game, butthere's so many games here.

(05:39):
I really want to play that.
I really.
So I joined Twitch heavilyto be able to watch
a wide variety of games Icouldn't play but like really
wanted to and wanted to see.
And then I stayed on Twitchbecause I loved the
interaction that you couldhave with someone and it was
like really nostalgic too.

(06:00):
Um, so I also played NancyDrew when I was a child, and
like, I would always play witha friend and we'd always be
like doing it together andgaming together and,
you know, so, like, Twitchalways feels like that, you
know, you're experiencingsomething with other people,
you're thinking about thingswith other people, and I
really love that.
So that was like what kept meon Twitch and

(06:23):
then I don't really know whyI made then.
Yeah, it was kind of like now,like my old usernames.
I don't feel like they were me.
They're just like, you know,and so you
can ask one of my bestfriends. I spent like 4 hours
trying to figure out what Iwas going to do, how I was
going to make it, or like whatit was going to be the meaning

(06:46):
behind the name.

Lauren (06:48):
So I've always been like marketing.

Gabe (06:51):
Yeah. And yeah, well, because I was like, this is
what people are going to know meas. Like, I don't want to
switch it, I don't want it toswitch. And I was like, so I
have to like think about it.
And so. Nina isGaladriel Ring from Lord of
the Rings.
I'm a super big nerd.
I freakin love the Lord of theRings.
And the Ring is alsoknown as The Ring of Adam.

(07:13):
It's the Ring of Water.
I also really love water,which is partially why I chose
it, but I also liked how thename sound. And so the Adam
Mr. Damas is Latin for adamantbecause trick is like you need
a first name and the last nameand I was like, I'll give you
your first name.
All right.
Yeah.

Lauren (07:31):
So where did the dragons come from? Because dragons
are a big elementof your stream.

Ga (07:38):
They're my favorite thing in the whole world and have been
for my entire life.
And I was like, I learned thatlike what everyone was doing.
I'm like, back then therewasn't a lot of dragon stuff.
And I was like, You know what?
That's me. I'm like.

Lauren (07:53):
Taken.

Gabe (07:53):
I have dragon stuff everywhere.
Like, everywhere.
Like I have statues andeverything. And I was like,
you know what makes sense?
So yeah.

Lauren (08:05):
That.

Gab (08:06):
And I didn't really make it thinking I was going to scream,
but like I thought about thosethings in the back of my head.
And then I probably startedstreaming like March 2016
or something like that becausemy friends are like, Oh, you
got this game like where youstream. And I was like, Sure.

Lau (08:23):
I gave it to you, remember?
I know Ash Schneier was one ofthe first games I streamed,
but I don't think it was thefirst. I don't know.
It was it Coney now.
I think it was Arcade.
Oh it was arcades.
It was when arcades reviewed.
No. How does that is that whatit was.

(08:43):
I have no idea.
Okay. There was a lot ofthings, but I saw.

Lauren (08:48):
That mystery later.

Gabe (08:51):
Yeah, one day.
So.
Yeah, I don't know.
And then.
I don't know. I don't reallyknow. I kept screaming.
I just did.
And here we are.
I just.
It's like escapism.
Like gaming is escapism,streaming is escapism.
It makes me, like, not have tothink about things.
It's very comforting.
You should talk to other people.

Lau (09:12):
Well, and I think it's just so exciting
because every different gameyou play has different fans.
Yeah, if you're playinglesser known games and so
you're getting people whoare like, Oh my gosh,
somebody else is playingthis game.
And then you get to meet newpeople and learn
about them and learn aboutthe type of people, even if

(09:32):
it's a game that you justpicked up randomly or
randomly recommended it andyou're like, Huh, I guess
I'll play this game andthese super fans just come
running out and they'relike, Oh my gosh, this is
the best game ever.

Gabe (09:45):
That's what happened last night. I started playing well,
you rated me. I startedplaying The Secret of Monkey
Island becausethe new one's coming out this
year. And I was like, Okay, Iwant something I've had on my
lists.
We'll try and get through theseries and be ready for that
new one.
And all these fans were like,Oh, someone's playing Monkey
Islands. I was playing like,Yeah, and I felt bad.
So I kept making all thesereferences. Like, they'd come

(10:07):
in and their first linewas like a reference that went
over my head.
I was like, This is my firsttime playing.
But yeah, that's always fun.
That is always a good time.
I think that's like myfavorite. One of my favorite
parts about playing the moreniche games is getting
those types of people.
And then you learn so muchmore about the game that you

(10:29):
might never known because theylove it. And they're like, Let
me tell you.

Laur (10:33):
Yeah, I'm so obsessed with the type of people who love
to watch people's firstplaythroughs of a game that
they love.

Gabe (10:40):
Yes.

Lau (10:41):
It's my favorite thing when they come in and they're
just, you know, just sojust quivering in
anticipation for you to getto their favorite part or
see the shock on your face.
It's a way to relive theirown shock and excitement.
Any time you've been like, Iwish I could read that book
for the first time or watchthat movie for the first

(11:03):
time on Twitch.
You can watch people playa game the first time and
yeah, just being knocked outby it.

Gabe (11:11):
You can relive it.
You can relive.
Yeah. Mm.
Yeah. I love that.
Mm. I love that.

Lauren (11:19):
When you first rated me for Nancy Drew,
when we first met, you wereplaying through all of the.
Nancy Drew's in a series, right?

Gabe (11:32):
Oh.
Yeah, that was my mysecond run through.
So the first time I waslike, there's at that
point, there's very fewnineties years I hadn't played
it. I played pretty much allof them, but I was like, I
want to play them in order.
I want to see how they allconnect, how it all builds in
preparation for.

(11:53):
As they call it, Town ofSalem. But that's a different
game. It was the night in Salem.
Yeah. When that first cameout. Yeah.
So I was yeah,I was like playing through the
mall and man, we were like, wewere on the grind and
like last month trying to getthrough the mall and then.

La (12:12):
Sorry. Were you playing them all in one year?

Gabe (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I played.
I think I played through.
I'm trying to think.
Did Midnight Salon come out inOctober and November?
Or is it December?
I think it was October.
I feel like it was October.
I've I've played through themin like a four, five
month period.
I was like, oh, shoot, the newone's coming out.

(12:35):
I'm going to do it.
And we did it somehow.
I don't know how.
And.
Yeah. Twitter only keeps yourVODs for so long.
And I didn't know you could,like, download your VODs at
that time.
And I was Iwas, like, devastated.

(12:55):
I was like, man, I wish Iwould have kept these.
So then when I raided you, Iwas working through my second
playthrough, which I still amworking on, of going through
them in order because I wantedto keep them, keep the vase and
be able to like put them onYouTube to be able to look at
them later and like.
And then I was like, Oh, Ialso want to make the scrapbook

(13:16):
that Nancy made.
Like, I want to remake thatand I want to do all these
things. So.
Yeah. We were playing.
Well, we talked about thisearlier.
I don't remember what I wason. I was on like the fifth
one or something like that.
I think when I rated you,I maybe like to do.
Gotcha.

(13:37):
Yeah, I was trying to spreadthe answers, your love,
because there's.
There used to be like not alot of people who streamed it
or if they did stream it,they, they streamed the
shadow at the water's edge.
That was like the superpopular one. And I was like,
Nancy, fanslike to see someone playing
one of those and one of myfavorite games, I was like.

(14:00):
We're going to spread the loveto you.

Lauren (14:02):
Yeah, because the Nancy gain.

Gabe (14:05):
And I sense our fans.

La (14:07):
I feel like when even when I first started streaming
them, you know, over a year ago,there were only, you know, a
few people at a timeplaying. And I feel like
either a lot of viewersdecided to start streaming
because they saw all of therest of us start streaming.

(14:29):
Nancy Drewor a lot more streamers just
fell back in love with them.
So I don't know if it's justa whole bunch of new
streamers or streaming,Nancy Drew, or if people
just made the decision to start.

Gabe (14:46):
I think it's new streamers like based off of the people I
saw start streaming it andstuff and looking.
I think it was new streamers,which I do think in turn also
brought back the nostalgia forother people and then brought
people who maybe did alreadystream be like, I want to play
Nancy.
And somehow,for some reason, when Midnight

(15:08):
in Salem came out, likeit was like big.
Like there is quite a fewreally big streamers who I had
never seen play and answeredyour game before.
They were like, Oh, I'm goingto I'm going to play that.
I'm going to stream that.
And I was like, okay.
And I thought that also helped.

Lauren (15:27):
Definitely.
Yeah. Everyone smile.
There will be like a reallybig streamer or,
you know, the girlfriend orwife of a really big
streamer will beplaying a Nancy Drew game
for nostalgia.
And it's just like, Oh,okay. So that's the person
who's streaming Nancy Drew,who, as you know, 10,000

(15:47):
viewers. Got it.
Got it.

Gabe (15:48):
Got it. Okay.
I guess let's talk more aboutlike the podcast.
Like, why are you making thispodcast?
What made us, you know, gethere and why we did it?
Um, so I'vebeen thinking about it and
wanted to make a podcastfor a while.
I feel like.
I have a lot to say, a lot ofthings I could say, maybe

(16:10):
a lot of things that could bebeneficial to others.
But also, just like, I don'tknow, I like being able to
nerd out and.
I was looking for a partneror someone, a partner in crime
because I didn't want to go onthis, you know, journey by
myself and like.

(16:32):
I don't even know why.
I was like, Sweetie, you wantto do a podcast?
But I one day just outof order was like, Ah, sorry,
Lauren.
Lauren, you want to start apodcast?
And you're like, I guess,I mean, why not?
Mhm. And so I know I kind of, I,I mean I thought I like

(16:55):
military pretty well but youknow, and
so like my, I guess personalreasons and like kind of what I.
Want to do with the podcast islike, you know, kind of having
a place to be able to vent, tobe able to talk.
Um, since you are like,mainly like Jamie kind of

(17:15):
podcast to givelike the female perspective
on gaming and like what it'slike to be a female in the
gaming culture and maybe.
Making a difference for thebetter for females in the
gaming,but also just kind of like
making a difference forpeople's lives like in general

(17:36):
because like this kindof content, like podcasts,
streams, all that is like.
Like listening to people andstuff in their stories.
Like, it keeps me going andmakes me have hope.
It makes me want to do thingsand I kind of
I want to give that to otherpeople too. Like, I love that

(17:56):
and I think.
Kind of the last big thing isI've always loved learning.
Learning more things, pushingmyself to learn more.
And then, you know, spreadingthat knowledge, you know, like
a give and take. I want othersto teach me, but I also want
to teach others.
And I guess, ironically, I ama teacher with preschoolers.

(18:18):
So, um, would you like to shareyour personal reasons for why
you said yes?
Mm hmm.

Lauren (18:26):
Yeah. I have also thought about
participating inco-hosting a podcast for
a while.
I think it's part ofthe way that I stream.
I definitely love playingthe games, but I also love

(18:48):
just taking a tangentoff and talking about
concepts and themesin the storytelling.
I spend a lot of timein theater when I was
younger and in playwritingclasses, and I always
loved English.
And so I love scripts andI love media and I love

(19:08):
building out stories.
It's always going to be aboutthe story for me.
There's so many and we'lltalk about this later in
Nancy Drew segments.
But the story is always thekey part for me, because you
can have great puzzles inthere. But if the story is
not if itdoesn't make sense, if it's
not clear, if the charactersare not developed up to a

(19:29):
certain point, then thewhole game is going to fall
apart.
And so I spend alot of time in my streams
talking about that andtalking about
how I feel about that andtalking about how different
concepts have been usedbetter in other areas and
other, you know, tangents thatwould be good.

(19:53):
I'm kind ofmore in a podcast setting
necessarily than on stream.
They're also fun on stream,but I think it also makes
sense to translate them overinto this.

Ga (20:04):
Well and doing this like you can research.

Lauren (20:08):
Definitely, definitely.
I like doing that researchand I like doing that
kind of investigation,expanding my knowledge
and understanding of what'shot in technology and
talking about the kind ofgames that are coming out
that are maybe notnecessarily on my Steam
brand, but oron my Twitch brand, but

(20:31):
that I'm interestedin playing and excited to
play and that will beplaying not necessarily
on Twitch or publicly, butthat I'm playing for
myself more and well,it makes sense to do it with
you because we are friends.
We do enjoy playing similargames. I feel we have

(20:52):
some different perspectiveson different things.
You have a much greaterknowledge of games
and just a longerknowledge of games.
So I'mI have a lot to learn about
the gaminghistory and that sort of
thing from you.
And I just love to talk, so I'mvery happy to come in and learn

(21:19):
and chit chat about whatever.

Gabe (21:24):
I also feel like, I don't know, like we have really good
chemistry and I feel like wecan bounce back and
forth off each other andI feel like we can
have. I keep saying I feellike that's terrible.
It's a safe environment.
I feel I can reallysay my thoughts and opinion.
And even if you disagree,you're not just going to be

(21:46):
like You've losthope. How dare you?
How dare you think that way?
I'm sorry.
Please don't.

Lauren (21:53):
Be promise.
I will not tell you so.

Gabe (21:56):
Yeah.
Oh, sorry to use theactual word of.
Oh.

Lauren (22:05):
But yeah, no, there's definitely that level of
comfort and support with us.

Gabe (22:13):
So that's why, why we started it.
But why did we name it.
What we name it?
And I'm not going to take anycredit for that. That was all
you all the names I came upwith, like such
basic and basic bitch.
Bland names like I had I hadnothing.

L (22:34):
You had a couple of sweeties, which was very nice.

Gabe (22:38):
I mean, I don't know if it was cute,
but you definitely hit it onthe nail when you were like,
Ah, the nail on the head.
And you're like,We should probably get
something that's like morepointed to like what we should
be talking about, or at leastkind of like the topic we
should be covering as.

(22:59):
Yeah, you're kind of right.
So.

Lauren (23:02):
Yeah. So as you can tell, our podcast is
called I Don't Believe inSide Quests.
So there arethere are some there are
some reasons behind this.
All right. So just a basiclevel.
As the main character inyour own story, you have an
ultimate objective.
So it's saving the princess,finding treasures, defeating

(23:23):
final bosses.
These are obviouslytypically in games, although
I suppose it could be truein real life as well.
But we all have theseultimate goals.
We have series of tasks wehave to accomplish that are
going to actively move uscloser to achieving those goals.
So this is our, quoteunquote, main quest.
And then along the way tothose own goals, we run into

(23:46):
other characters or aregiven, you
know, a note in passing,or we are somehow directed to
other people'sobjectives. And so we can
jump in to help those othercharacters rescue their own
princesses or find their owntreasures or defeat their
own bosses.
And these, quote unquote,side quests do not directly

(24:09):
move our own story along.
They're super optional forus to join in.
So the I don't believe inside quests concept has kind
of two main parts.
So part one is basicallywe are all side characters
in each other's stories.
So it's not that we're justembarking on petty little
side quests.
We have agreed to brieflystep into someone else's

(24:31):
story as a helperout of the goodness of our
hearts or the desire for areally good reward.
We have stepped back fromthat main character
spotlight, and we arewilling to take a supporting
role so someone else canachieve their ultimate goal.
Second, andpersonally, I feel is the
more important part of thisreframing of side quests

(24:53):
is that we learn so muchwhen we spend the time
helping other people ingames, we're going to gain
experience gold or uniqueweapons that may not be
super important plot oneplot point wise, but they do
pave the way for our successlater on in the game.
And then in life, we'relearning about how other
people are seeing the world,what they're finding important.

(25:15):
And that may change ourperspective.
And then also that way pavesthe way for our success
later in life.
So the game orour parents may see us pause
or veer off the linear pathto our otherwise stated
ultimate goal and thinkwe're wasting time.
But they aren't taking intoconsideration the fact that

(25:35):
most of us can't tackleour ultimate object
head on as fast as possible.
Like most of us can't justsay, okay, I'm just going to
follow the main quest pointsand fight the ultimate boss.
We need to take these sidequests to get experience.
We need to get betterweapons. We need to

(25:56):
gain broader skills.
And so calling those sidequests is just
it just seems silly becauseeven though they're not
necessarily actively movingthe plot along, they're
still super important andintegral to our
growth as characters andalso as people.

(26:17):
So kind of Iknow that was kind of a long
explanation, but the keytakeaway is that smaller
goals that allow us tobecome more prepared to
tackle our big goalsare actually really necessary.
Calling them side questsdoes that. It does them a
disservice.
Only experts can reallystick to the main quest and
come out on top.

(26:38):
Most humans need somebreathing room, so calling
things side questsdoesn't necessarily make
sense when they're more ofjust their kind of expansion
quests.

Gabe (26:49):
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's, it's,it's a fitting and that right
is, it's a reference to gamingand we're going to be talking
about gaming, but also,you know, how we're tying it
to real life and you know.
The importance of all that.
So it's fitting and I thinkwe're going to talk about

(27:10):
both. Like we want to be ableto talk about many things,
mainly focused on gaming, butjust life
in general and you know,whatever else. So it's
good. It's good.
You talked a little bitabout, I think, kind of like,
why are you game? Do you talkmore about your streaming?

(27:31):
But I feel like we should,you know, talk about what
got us into gaming andwhy we started to gaming.
So I just wantto go first, whichever you're
like.

Lauren (27:43):
No rock and roll hero.

Gabe (27:44):
Okay.
Um,I had the gamer gene from the
very beginning.
Um, my dad was a gamer.
Ironically, he wasfriends with some of
the people who worked onDoom, and that helped to

(28:06):
create Doom.

Lauren (28:08):
Oh, very cool.

Gabe (28:09):
Yeah.
And like,he knew a bunch of people who,
like, really loved that gameand played that game, and he
was just like myson for me, but he
wouldn't play it.
It's. I think it's so funny.
I was like, All right,okay. Kind of kind of a
dick move. But you do you.

(28:31):
And so, like, when I cameto be as little bean, he would
play hexagon, whichI don't think was age
appropriate. Like I would sitwith him or he would play it
and we'd like play together.
Totally not age appropriateand nothing we did together.
What was age appropriate to behonest. Oh, that sounds really

(28:53):
bad. Actually, I like that way.
I was a very sick child.
I was home a lot.
I was very sick.
He was the one I was with.
So we would watch.
He, you know, he could onlyhandle so much cartoons.
So we watched a lot of monstermovies and sci fi movies
and horror movies andplayed these things that I

(29:16):
probably shouldn't be playing.
Like some of the things likeif my mom knew, she'd be like,
Hmm. But he always thought itwas good. And he always like,
we'd always have theconversation
of, you know, this is okay.
This is not okay.
What's good, what's bad?
And he always used a lotof this as like
a teaching experience for meand be like, you know, you got

(29:38):
to stick up for peopleand like when something is
wrong, you got to saysomething. You can't just let
it happen.
So he's what got me into gamingand.
We?
Yeah. He's the reason I haveall my games. He bought all my
games. Ironically, I dug someof them out. These are like my

(29:59):
games I played as a kid.
Jurassic Park, pre school cliff.
I don't really remember Cliffordas much, but Arthur.
Arthur was a go tomy Harry Potter's I loved.
I pulled out some of myoriginal Nancy Jaws.
I lost them.
Mm hmm.
The first one we had was the.

(30:20):
The second one.
The Haunted Mansion message ina haunted mansion.
Um.
He got me started.
But also kind of what kept megoing is my
best friend. Her mom was myday care lady, so I spent a
lot of time there and they hadGameboys and game cubes.
And let me tell you, we playedthem absolute poop

(30:44):
out of Pokémon.
Crash Bandicoot.
She got us.
Oh, what are they called that?
Mary-Kate and Ashley.
Sweet 16.
They're my good best funsort of things.
And.
Yeah. I don't know.
He, I never really talked aboutthis with other people

(31:05):
because, like, it was weird tobe a girl and, like, play
games when I was younger.
So, like, I didn't talk tohim, but he, he
always kept me interested.
He was always giving me fungames to play.
San Sarah is ais a very niche game
that many people know about,but that was like something we
would play together and didplay together for like many

(31:27):
years of my life.
And he got me Skyrim.
Your favorite game?

Lauren (31:31):
Yes.

Gabe (31:35):
And in like middle school, I started to do more online
gaming. I started a rune scape.
I was a fallen rune scape,let me tell you.

Lauren (31:46):
Hack. Yep.

Gabe (31:47):
AB And then kind of wow.
And that's kind of like whenI started paying attention
to Twitch and stuff and.
Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
I feel like that's.
The basics of it.

Laure (32:05):
So what would you say was the most, I guess, impactful
then game that you played asa kid.

Gabe (32:11):
Or to samsara, which if you've never played it and you
can figure out how to get itto play on your computer, I'm
going to tell you, you shoulddo it. You're the girl
in London and you get freakedand kidnaped and transported
to this fairy world and youget to like have fairies and
duel with the fairies and,like, fly around.
So good, so beautiful.

(32:32):
Love the music. Chef's kiss.
And I think that was impactfulbecause that was
one of the ways me and my dadalways connected.
And I always he'sa computer, I'll be honest.
He's a computer.
Like there's a reason he worksin I.T.
And so that wasdefinitely outside of sports,

(32:53):
one of our biggest bonding.
And then I was 90.

Laur (32:57):
That says a lot about both of us.

Gabe (33:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then they your hands down,Nancy Drew and Harry Potter.
But the Nancy Drew was like.
Having a female characterthat I can play and relate to.
Like I had nothing againstmale characters. I loved them,
but it was like.
Someone who was.

Lauren (33:22):
Biased. I have things against male main characters.

Gabe (33:28):
That's fine. You can you tell us? But
yeah, I liked how much youlearned and the men's
features. I like how they kindof like picked a theme,
really dug down into the themeI like. I learned so much.
I learned how to do so much.
I would go to my dad and belike, Guess what I learned
today?

(33:50):
At what?
Morse code.
I would send you the S.O.S..
I read trouble.
I guess it's like, okay,so definitely.
Definitely that.
And I should like Nancy, alsojust impact me as a person
like she.
Made me feel like it was okayto be curious and ask

(34:12):
questions and.

Lauren (34:15):
Super nosy still things.
Yes. Yes.

Gabe (34:17):
Okay. Oh, okay.
You know what? It's your turn.
You go.

Lau (34:25):
But to not mean to do this.
Yeah. I really didn'tplay games growing up.
I.
Some I did some,but not like classics,
you know, I did educationalPC games.
I did like math blasters, so.

(34:47):
And. Oh, Franklin,I don't know if you ever played
Franklin games.
Franklin the turtle?

Gabe (34:52):
Yes.
Do you ever play this?
You got that type to learnthree?

Lauren (34:56):
Yep.
Okay.
Heck yeah. But yes, any ofthose kind of educational
games my parents were all about.
So, you know, thatdidn't last super long
as we were growing up.
We kind of grew out of thosefairly quickly.
But my mom grew up readingNancy Drew books.
I have some of her booksfrom when she was young that

(35:20):
are in my bookshelf with mycollection of Nancy Drew's
that are just so cute.
Um, and then she discovered,you know, Nancy Drew games
are coming out on CD-ROM, soshe gave a few to me and my
sister, and we hadtreasure in the tower
message in a hauntedmansion, the final scene
and Secret of the ScarletHand. So those were kind of

(35:41):
our core four thatwe owned and we played a lot.
And it was so funnyreplaying those as an adult.

Gabe (35:50):
Because.

Lauren (35:52):
I remember, I think I, I think Haunted
Mansion, I always foundreally hard.
Yeah. And as a kid,just because it has those
longer puzzleswhere you have to go and
find all of the symbolsaround the house.
And I just never did becauseI didn't think about having

(36:12):
them. And Imean, Scarlet Hand was also
really rough as a kid anddoing it now. I'm just like,
boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
Just pressing buttons.
Um, and we wentto that. My sister and I
would go to the library andwe'd rent other ones.
So we owned the original orthose four.
And then we went to thelibrary and we're just

(36:33):
renting other ones.
And so we would play themfor a few hours and
then inevitably just walkaway from them because we
had to go to dinner orsomething and then
forget about them until wehad to return them and then
we'd have to re rent themand then we'd have to start
over again. And soit was just very confusing.

(36:55):
Um.

Ga (36:57):
I think about that sometimes like playing through them.
Like, how did we do thisas a kids?
Yeah, how did I solve anyof these things? Because
sometimesI don't know if I'm like, Whoa.

Lauren (37:11):
Yeah, well, and I.
Yeah, designing games for kidsthat also can work for adults.
I'm just very impressedbecause you do have to have
kind of, you know,simplistic but also
engaging enough.
And because most kids, youknow, probably are playing

(37:31):
with older siblings or youjust want the kids to
be pushed to reallythink, really use their brains.
So playing the Nazis wasreally good for
that. Other than Nancy Drew,my sister got an Xbox
as I was going away tocollege. It was kind of my
parents like, okay, well,your sister's leaving you,

(37:52):
so I'll get you an Xbox.
And so she played Halo andI think at that point we got
Skyrim. So basicallybefore I started streaming,
before I got my gamingcomputer, I had played.

(38:13):
Nancy Drew istwo of the Halo game, three
of the Halo games.
Um, Halo one, Halo two and Odeskand Skyrim.
Those are pretty much thegame that I do.

Gabe (38:28):
I actually have a recommendation
for you. I just saw that sinceyou love Skyrim so much.
So this game came out like amonth after Skyrim,
which I think is why it didn'tget.
As much as the recognition asit should of like I think it's
a very underrated game andthat is Kingdoms

(38:48):
of Honor, Allure, Reckoning.
Now they remastered it, sothey remastered because the
company was finally able tobuy the rights to it.
I'm hoping they're finallygoing to turn it into the
franchise. It should have been.
And they just did a new DLC.
Quite, quite a few months ago,actually, like I think

(39:09):
it came out September,October, November.
They had done a DLC.
But like this,it's a little more.
Fanciful.
Maybe even Skyrim, but like,it's so.
Is so beautiful.
I think it's so beautiful.
It's so much fun.
I love this story.

(39:31):
Like.
These were the games I wasnerdy not in. It was like
2011, 2012, I thinkSkyrim was like December 2011
and this was like January2012. Like, this is what I was
playinguntil I think Witcher three
came out. And then I was like,That's what I was playing.

Lauren (39:47):
So The Witcher series.

Gabe (39:49):
I.

Lauren (39:51):
Briefly played a little bit of my
fiance's brother's copyof The Witcher three.
So I want to getinto it because I know
people really like it and Ifeel like it would be kind
of my vibe.

Gabe (40:07):
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah. If you like Skyrim, Imean, it's not like Skyrim,
but it is like Skyrim in asense.
Like, it's definitely.
Yes.
I stand Geralt.
He's probably liketop of my list of characters I
wish I could marry.
Okay. And also when theypicked I don't remember his

(40:28):
Henry Cavill.
Henry Cavill, when they pickedhim for The Witcher, I was
like, Superman can't play him.
Oh, heck no.
And then I watched the firstseries and I was like, You
know what? I'll marry you,Henry Cavill. It's fine.
And he's a low key nerd, too,which makes it so much better.

Lauren (40:45):
Yeah.

Gabe (40:46):
His rhymes.

Lauren (40:49):
His fave.
My favorite character he playedwas in the movie Stardust.
I don't know if you've seenthat movie. It is my
favorite movie.
But he playsthis kind of smarmy.
It's a it's.

Gabe (41:08):
A small.

Lauren (41:09):
Part. It's a tiny little part.
But you would not recognizeit was him, except you can
see his jaw and you're like,Hmm, I recognize that job.
But he is.

Gabe (41:20):
Oh.
Mm hmm.

Lauren (41:24):
But he is just kind of.
Kind of the cool guy aroundtown, around the.
The town the main charactergrows up in before he goes
off into in the magicalworld. So he's supposed to
be like what everyone wantsto what the main character
wants to bebefore he goes and kind

(41:44):
of comes into his ownanyway. Right.
It's a tiny little part.
He plays it delightfully.
You cannot recognize him.
He is very young.
Oh, it's so good.

Gabe (42:01):
He's a beautiful man.
An absolutely beautiful man.
He built a PC.
He built a gaming PC.
Can you believe that?
Yeah. So did I watch the videoof it? And I was like, Oh, man.
It's not that he's special.
It's just fun to see a hugeactor in Hollywood
being a gaming nerd.

(42:21):
Okay.

Lauren (42:22):
No, I love that.

Gabe (42:23):
I get this.

Lau (42:25):
Well, I think we were going to talk about
kind of our favorite typesof games as we
at least are typicallyplaying through.
You know, for me, I'mplaying a lot of point and
click mystery games.
Of course, Nancy Drew,Sherlock Holmes, Agatha
Christie games, a lot ofvery story based.

(42:50):
So that's kind of where Ilike to live as opposed
to first person shooteror anything a little more,
actually.
Haiti's was very much one of myfavorite games that I go
back to again and again, youknow, I've done since.
But yeah, anything wherethere's a bit of a story.

(43:12):
If there's not a goodstory, I'm immediately out.
Do not care.

Gabe (43:18):
Not having it.
Hmm. Yeah, I'm.
I play too many games.
I play a.

Lauren (43:27):
Lot.

Gabe (43:28):
I like to dip my toe in everything.
I like.
I like mystery playingclick out, you know?
So my brain is beingintellectually stimulated.
I love horror, so I'd be scared.
Actually, I don't know.
I really. I just have no ideawhy I love horror.
I just know I love it and I'mobsessed with it. And I have

(43:49):
been my whole life.
I freaking love scifi. Anything sci fi?

Lauren (43:55):
Is this because of the movies that your dad and you
watched when you were little?

Gabe (44:02):
Actually, I think so.
They they probably seriouslytainted me as a child.
Like if we really think aboutit. Yes.
And like.
Like the TV series that weremy childhood.
I like people like Arthur andstuff on my mind where Buffy
the Vampire Slayer.

Lauren (44:18):
Angel, Love.

Gab (44:19):
Xena, the Warrior Princess, Hercules, Firefly.
Like all these thingslike, yes, I want to be them.
So I feel like I feel like gamesare a good way
to be someone or something.
You're not in reallife like I love Sea of

(44:40):
Thieves because I can be apirate because obviously, you
know, I can't really be apirate in real life.
But you know what?
For a few hours,I could be a pirate and I
could pillage and thieve andtell people to walk the plank
and sail on sailing.
And I actually really enjoythat.
Um.
Yeah.

(45:01):
I actually did not usedto like at these games.
Like, I didn't mind, likewatching people play them, but
I didn't really like them andI didn't get the attraction of
liking them.
Rajiv.
I don't know if it's as I'vegotten older, play more games
I've started to like the moreI started to like.

Lauren (45:19):
I think it's a comfort.

Gabe (45:20):
Level and trash talking.
Yes.
Yes, I agree.
As I've become more confidentin myself as a gamer and
in my skills, I like Ilike those games and pinning
my skills against other peopleand the trash talking for me.

Lauren (45:38):
I can play first person shooter and I
can do some of those thingsif I'm playing
with friends or I'm playingwith my fiancee, because
as long as I'm not trying to go.

Gabe (45:52):
At it alone, you guys play with your halo.

Lauren (45:54):
Hmm? Halo, yes.
Fine. We're doing ResidentEvil together, you know,
just like anything whereit's kind of a lot of action
going on at once.
If I can have at least oneother person there with me,
then I'm willing to kind ofdo it. You know, it's a
little pack, but doingit alone is just really
daunting, and I justdon't have as much fun.

(46:16):
The whole reason I like toplay kind of the point and
click in the story isbecause I like being
immersed in it.
I like being able to talkabout it, I like not having
to necessarily have all thequick time events or the
reactions so that Ican be thinking through and
kind of going slower andlogical and be talking

(46:36):
to chat and whateverabout the decisions I'm
making and working my waythrough rather than just,
you know, bang, bang, bang.

Gabe (46:47):
I get that. I don't play it like valorant and stuff.
I never play that alone.
I like to always do a.
Q So if someone startstalking mad and I got my
friend who's like, You knowwhat?
She's rock star.
What are you going to do aboutit?
Yeah, I would say, like myfavorite. Favorite if I had to
pick one.

(47:08):
Besides, horror issurvival and like co-op
kind of survival games or evenjust show my Stardew co-op was
amazing. Ten out of ten.
But like, I lovethat the building
having to be or being able tobuild like my own place,

(47:29):
being able to experience itwith other people and having
stories, like, having allthree of those things.
Hmm.
That's it. That's prime.

Lau (47:39):
Yeah. Being able to create.
And so that's why I enjoySims and definitely
Star, too, becausebeing able to.
Yeah.
Be on that kind of creatorside, able
to use creativity, ableto lay things out.
And I don't know if that's justlike the millennial in us
who's just like, I don'tknow if I'm ever going to have

(48:01):
a house and be able to, youknow, do all of these things
IRL.
But, you know,we can do them online,
we can show them off tofriends, we can talk about
them. We can, you know,kind of play house in a way
I should.

Gabe (48:17):
For me, it's I like to be stimulated in
a lot of different ways.
Like, I would like my brain tobe used in a lot of different
ways.
So like being able to becreative, being able
to think and like criticalthink and problem solve.
Are sometimes just sittingback and taking in the

(48:39):
experience and like beingin the experience.
I just like a lot ofstimulation, I guess.
I don't know. I think that'salso why I play such a variety
of games, because Ineed all the different.
Thanks. Yeah.
Hmm.

Lau (48:55):
Yeah. And for me, it's just kind of comforting to play
a lot of similargames and somebody who likes
to rewatch movies over andover again and
listen to things, listen to,you know, podcasts that I
know. And, like, I'mhappy to try new things.
But there's always, you know,the and the

(49:20):
concern, I guess, thatmaybe it won't be as good as
everyone saying.
So as long as I can juststick with something that I
know is going to be goodand true and something
that I know I'm going to enjoy.
And so, yeah, sometimes stickingwith that is just a comfort
level.

(49:40):
Yeah. So I think playingwith friends, you know,
it increases that comfortlevel because it's like,
well, even if I'm notnecessarily having fun doing
the thing, at least I'mgoing to have fun with friends.

Gabe (49:52):
Right. Yeah, true.
I never thought about that.
But now that you say it, I'mlike, yeah, okay.
I that's I've definitely donethat.

Lau (49:59):
Yeah, I'm really interested in psychology
and especially motivation.
I was taking businessclasses in college
about motivation.
I'm in nature.
That's what I do.
And so understandingwhat motivates people
in work to keepworking at their job, to

(50:22):
keep working at the company,to, I guess, work in
general, to work in the field.
That's really interesting tome, but also definitely what
motivates different types ofgamers.
And just like we weretalking earlier with a
child playing Nancy Drewversus an adult playing
Nancy Drew, what sort ofrewards you can fit in there
to keep motivating thechild, to keep playing, even

(50:44):
if they get stuck or for theadult to keep playing, even
if it's too easy.
I just find so fascinatingand I'm so impressed with
game designers who are ableto design for all of those
different levels.

Gabe (50:55):
I love that stuff too.
I love all of mypsychology and like sociology
classes anytime.
Okay. I know I said I'm ateacher.
Unqualified because when Iwent to college, I worked for
mechanical engineering andgeneral business management.
Totally other side of thespectrum of what I'm doing
now. I, I wanted to be a projectmanager with engineers,

(51:21):
but that'sa whole other story. That's a
whole other thing.
But yeah, whenever we talkabout that, my business
classes are likebecause I was general business
management, we tooklike one or two classes and
all of the differentcategories or accounting,
financing, marketing,operations, all of that.

(51:41):
Like we were essentiallytaught to be little baby
entrepreneurs.
Like we could, you know,start up a business but like,
you know, like marketing andstuff, whenever we would talk
about that and the psychologyof things and you know, how
you attract people orlike what makes them see
something and think, I want toget that or Oh, I like this,

(52:01):
you know, I love that.
I love that so much.
It's very fascinatinghow people work, how our
brains work.
So.
I hope we can do manypodcasts on that kind of stuff.

Lauren (52:16):
I know one of the goals we have for this podcast or
not necessarily goals, butfuture feature segments,
feature ideas. We want to betalking with other people
in the gaming industry onall different sides, from
selling from marketingto actual game design to
story creation, otherstreamers, other

(52:38):
players in general,and talking to them about
different aspects of that,because I think we're both
really curious about allsorts of different pieces of
putting a game together andtrying to encourage
people to get into it,especially on the indie side.

Gabe (52:57):
Having like kind of I feel like you would be
like a sub series because Idon't know if it'd be like
every episode, butyes, I would definitely love
to be able to do thatinterview or have for some
of them, like a day in thelife of whatever they are.
I think that would be trulyinteresting.
And to learn more about likewhat goes on behind

(53:20):
the scenes, like what all goesinto making
a game and the decisions theymake and how they make these
decisions.
So yeah I'm excited that thatone day.

La (53:32):
So we have a lot of learning ahead of us on this journey
about a lot of differentaspects of
the technology and gamingindustry outside of our
own experiences, which we'rereally excited about.

Gabe (53:48):
Yeah, because it's a huge gaming culture, gaming industry.
It like I feel liketo everyday people and stuff.
Like when you talk about whenyou think about it, it doesn't
seem like it's that big.
But like when you start going,there's so much, so many
different things.
It blows my mind,like even being a part of it
and knowing that every time Iactually stop and think about

(54:09):
it, I'm like, Wow.
And the impact it has onso many people's lives is crazy.

Lauren (54:19):
Yeah. My parents are not.
Into gaming and all.
At least my mom is reallynot. My dad somewhat gets
into it, butmy mom really has no idea
anything about games.
And I wastrying to explain to her
about another mom who playsMama's, and my

(54:42):
mother could not get itthrough her brain. She was
just like, Adults do this.
It's for adults.
I was like, Oh, no.

Ga (54:51):
One of my favorite streamers is is 40 years old.
He plays these.
And every time he says hisage, I like like all I'm sorry.
I'm not laughing at him.
Like, I don't think it's notfor old people, but I kind of
chuckle tonight that's goingto be me when I'm 40 still.
Also, we play games,live in my best life.

Lauren (55:14):
That cracks me up also because I mean, 40 is young.
You know, the mom who plays MMOsis 60 and she's been
playing them for tenyears. And so yeah,
there is just so manybecause at this point,
because when did videogamesstart coming out originally?

G (55:37):
If we're not including arcade games, I feel like the first
was like.
Eighties, right?
It is because I feel likesixties. Seventies is
when we started getting, youknow, like Arcade and like
Pacman stuff.

Lau (55:54):
Yeah. So at this point, you know, the vast,
vast majority of adultshave grown up with some
semblance of video games.
And the idea that, oh,they're just for, you know,
21 and under, it's just soabsurd.

(56:16):
But to people who trulydon't interact with
people who game at all, Imean, and I really didn't.
Obviously, my fiancee andhis friends game and
I was doing marginal gaming, butI really had no idea
truly until I joined Twitch.
Of what on earth was going on.

(56:39):
And I know there's plenty ofother communities out there
because I'm not even on Reddit.
Same so much out thereabout gaming in general
that I just haven't evengotten close to.

Gabe (56:53):
Okay. I think it's time.
I think we wedo it. The T Tea Party segment.

Lauren (57:00):
Okay.
So basically becauseour whole podcast
is about quote unquote sidequests and about
objectives that are veryimportant to someone, maybe
not to you, but to someonewho's the main character in
their own story.
They're having stuff go onthat is very important to
them that no one elseprobably really cares about.

(57:23):
And so some of this petty dramawe are going to be
sharing with all of y'allin our Tea Party segment.
So today's Tea Partyis about my apartment drama
because this truly just endedspoiler alert and I'm

(57:47):
so excited to have myapartment back.
But basically there wasplumbing that was going on
where there was plumbingneeded to go on.
For the past two weeks,some plumbing had broken.
There was something reallygross that was only
accessible under myapartment, and so
no one was doing anything.
We're just renters, sowe're not even on

(58:11):
the board. Like we can'treally get involved.
We obviously we're talkingto our landlord who is
honestly not being superhelpful. Sorry, Bill,
but name drop, name dropped.
Um, we love Bill. It's okay.

Gabe (58:27):
Fine.
We stand, bill.

La (58:31):
But we ran into our neighbor out in the parking lot and,
um, we had talked to her afew times before and
she, it came out that she isan owner and she's like the
only owner who lives on thepremises and she's like, so
it's up to me to determine,you know, if we're going to
be paying X-Y-Z.

(58:53):
And we were like, amazing,do it.
Yes, do it.
You're going to do it. Right?
And so justbecause they had a right, so
two weekends ago,people had come by and they
were like, hey, we need toget under the hatch

(59:14):
underneath your pantry.
So obviously we had to emptyout our entire pantry.
We had to take all of theshelving out, and
all of our pantry has beenliving in our room for the
past two weeks.
And so they couldn'tget in. They couldn't get
into the pantry becauseeverything was in the pantry.
So they were like, We'regoing to make an appointment,
we're going to come back.
And we were like, Amazing,do that.

(59:35):
So we cleared out the pantrythat night. They never came
back and we were like,Okay, we haven't heard
anything, what's going on?
And so we ran into her neighbor.
She got my number so wecould text each other about
like whatever shenaniganswere going on.
And she was just like, Great,we have a board meeting
in like 3 hours, so I'll letyou know what happens.

(59:57):
So she gets to the boardmeeting. She texted me the
next day and she saysthe property manager said
that we denied them accessto our hats.
And my fiance and I were like,No, no, that's
thoroughly not what happened.
Um, and so myfiance, they then emailed

(01:00:20):
the business management orthe property managers and
was asking them,hey, what's, what's going on?
We heard thatyou guys said we denied you
access.
And they emailed back andsaid, No, we didn't say that.
Oh, you're just sittingthere like, okay, okay.

(01:00:43):
At. I don't care.
I don't care who's lying.
I don't care what's goingon. And then they were
saying that our neighborwas telling
or was saying that they werelying about what was
underneath, which is notwhat she was telling us.
And so so we are justgetting totally conflicting

(01:01:05):
stories from both sides.
And we again, we're like, wedon't care.
Just somebody has to fixthis anyway.
And so it ended up that shedidn't trust their estimate.
And so then we got anoutside we the
board got an outside groupto come in, do a quote

(01:01:26):
and do the whole thing.
So then she was texting mebeing like, Hey, I'm going
to prove it a.s.a.p.
And then like two dayslater, it did get approved.
And then yesterdaythey were in all day doing
pumping and then doingplumbing. And then they were
back in this morning to fixand finish everything up.
And now my pantryis back and return to me and

(01:01:49):
I'm so excited, but Itruly do not know who to trust.

Gabe (01:01:55):
So it so it wasn't resolved and who
lied? Like who or like morethat false.

Lauren (01:02:01):
Okay, no idea.
No interest.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
There's just like, somethinggot lost in translation.

Gabe (01:02:11):
But I feel like that would have been a very big loss in
translation.
Like, those are like, right?
Not like, even remotely kindof like, okay, you know, or
you miss a couple of words.
This was liketwo completely different
things, right?

Lauren (01:02:27):
Yeah. Yeah.
Because she was saying theyjust said that you denied
access and then kind of sheleft it at that. And then
they said, we didn't saythat, but they said
we weren't telling the truthabout what was underneath
the apartment.
And then.
I know.

G (01:02:44):
I know. Because you're not be telling the truth about what's
under the apartment, though.

Laure (01:02:47):
I know they were like, we have pictures and we were
like, Oh, we believe you.
Just so you know, there'sbeen a smell.
We have been spending thenight at my sister's.
We have been I've been goinginto the office to not be
working in there.
We've had our air offor. Yeah, our hot air off.
We've had our air off,our electricity bills, $25

(01:03:08):
because we had noheater going for the last
two weeks.
Our doors open.
So it's been freezing everytime we've been home just
to like let things air out.
Obviously we've like had ourbedroom door closed and
other doors closed to likekeep the smell out.
Like there was clearly stuffhappening and yet
no one was doing anything.

(01:03:29):
No, it's telling us what wasgoing on. It was just like
so annoying.

Gabe (01:03:34):
So how long did this all take to get resolved?
I don't remember.
When did this first starthappening?

Lauren (01:03:41):
So the guys came to try to get into
a hatch two weeks ago,but apparently stuff has
been starting to go downthere for the last six
months and likeit must have just been like
frozen in Decemberbecause I had been like
getting kind of like littlesmells like underneath some

(01:04:02):
of the cabinets. And I waslike, what is happening?
But my fiance, Iwas never around to smell
them. And so it was justlike, I don't know, I'm not
involved.
And sowe never really thoroughly
investigated it.
And I just kind of was like,okay, whatever.
But then other people in theapartment were complaining
and then,yeah, even our next door

(01:04:26):
neighbor was like texting meand she was like, Yeah, this
smells like super bad day.
And I was like, Hmm, itsounds like you should approve
plumbers.

Gabe (01:04:33):
But I feel like I'm being really
dumb right now.
Why? It was water, right?
Why was water?
No way. What was it?

Laur (01:04:43):
It was not water, I regret to tell you.

Gabe (01:04:47):
Oh.

Lau (01:04:49):
Literally. My apartment has been smelling like poop in
various levels.
Oh, two weeks.

Gabe (01:04:59):
Oh, okay.
I'm. I'm sorry.
I'm. Maybe I'm dumb.
I don't know why I thought itwas water. I was like, Oh,
that's even. Okay.

Lauren (01:05:06):
Oh, I wish it was water.

Ga (01:05:07):
I thought it was like water.
And you're getting like themold and the right.
That's what I thought but.
Mm.
Okay.

La (01:05:14):
That would also have sucked.
Absolutely.

Gabe (01:05:17):
Oh yeah.

Lauren (01:05:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. So it's because whenthey first came to tell us,
we were kind of like, oh,that would explain some of
the weird smells we havesporadically been smelling.
But literally then since they'vebeen here, like it
has gotten, it had gotten somuch worse. Like yesterday

(01:05:40):
morning, right beforethey came, it smelled.
The worse it ever smelled.
And I was like, Holy cow.

Gabe (01:05:48):
Was it just your guys's or was it.

Lauren (01:05:51):
It was that the problem area was not even our pipes.
It was our upstairsneighbors pipes.
It was located.
But they thethe area they had to pump
was only accessible throughour hatch, underneath our
apartment.
So you're getting punished forsomebody else?
Oh, that makes it so muchworse. It's not even your

(01:06:14):
stench. It's someone else's.
Yeah, my germaphobe.
Oh, no, I have.
Yeah. It's literally beenthe worst.

Gabe (01:06:25):
Yikes.
Yikes. I am so sorry.
The. Holy cow.
Yeah, but it's hopefully so.
It's hopefully fixed now.
Right.

Lauren (01:06:35):
It's fixed.
Okay.
Took care of it.
The property managers weredown there today and they
were like, nope, they did areally good job.
They were like, showing uspictures of how clean it was
down there.

Gabe (01:06:46):
Perfect.

Lauren (01:06:47):
They showed my fiance my pictures. I did not look at
pictures because I am a lady.
Oh.

Gabe (01:06:53):
Of course.

Laur (01:06:56):
But now I'm just like, you know, paranoid thinking that
I'm smelling things.

Gabe (01:07:02):
I would be too.
I would be, too.
I feel like. Yes.

Laur (01:07:05):
Yeah. We have to just like obviously do such a deep
clean in the apartment now.
So that is my job.

Gabe (01:07:12):
I'm on your team.
So is it time to talk aboutside quests?

Lau (01:07:17):
Do you have a favorite side question?

Gabe (01:07:20):
Wait. Okay, just wait.
Wait.
I know yours is from Skyrim.
Yes, obviously.
Aha.
Obviously.
I obviously feel likeit's been so long since I
played Skyrim.
I have the remastersare what you call it. I really
want to play because I can'tplay the original because you

(01:07:41):
can't lock your pieceand it like freaks out on my
computer. And so I have theremastered to be able to play
it, but I haven't had a chanceto go around to it.
I just I don't know if youwould call these side quests,
but like, okay,what I loved about Skyrim

(01:08:04):
was like all the little rabbitholes you could go down
all the like sidecults and people that you
could just, like, buryyourself into.

Laure (01:08:15):
I loved the whole vampire thing or the vampire hunter
thing or the.
Yeah.

Gabe (01:08:21):
Child. Me unknowingly became a vampire.
Didn't know you could become avampire. Didn't know why it
happened. Didn't know whypeople were running from me
and trying to kill me.
And my poor dad spent, like, 5hours trying to fix it for me,
I guess.

Laure (01:08:35):
Hard to be kind of Skyrim vampire.

Gabe (01:08:40):
I did it. I didn't get it.
I didn't understand what itwas or what it meant.
But now that I get it, I canappreciate it.

Lauren (01:08:48):
I have the vampire pack I guess expansion
downtown for Sims and.

Gabe (01:08:56):
Oh yeah.

Lauren (01:08:56):
Yeah. I have always done the magic and
forgotten that you cannot bea wizard and also a vampire,
which I think is very rude.
So every time I'm just like,Oh yeah, I want to start
learning magic. And thenthey're like, Great.
Well, you do magic now, soyou cannot be a vampire.
So I've never been a sensevampire, even though I have
it, and it is one of mytruly ultimate goals.

Gabe (01:09:20):
You should do it.
Well, part is like, I think,and I'm not an expert
on Sims games, but I'm prettysure in some of the pass you
could be hybrids, like youcould do multiple things,
but for whatever reason inSims four, they would say
no because our someonewas talking about the new
scenario and Sims arelike one of the new scenario

(01:09:42):
things they've been doing.
You can be a plant sim.
They brought Plant Sims backand she was talking about how
she used to like to be avampire and a plant sim
and like how it likeclash because the plants need
sun, but like the vampirecan't go in the sun.
And so I.
Yeah, yeah.

(01:10:03):
I don't know why we don't havehybrids in Sims four.

Lauren (01:10:06):
But I am a Sims player who just like
works my sim to the bone.
I was just like, girl, ifyou are not up there
and like gettinglevel ten on every single
skill, if you're notconstantly doing things,
why are you doing it?

(01:10:26):
You're a waste of my timeand I think it's a problem
because I onlyhave one sim going at a time.
Like I think I need to makea family and then just like
pick people up.
And so I want to rather justhyper focused in on one
person being like, mm,nope, not like that.
Stop that.

Ga (01:10:47):
I definitely over managed my sims and my sister is always
judge me and she's like, Idon't get why you feel the
need to tell them all thesethings like you can let them
live. And I'm like, Well, youkill them separately.
Exactly. What's the point?
Very true.
What is your favoritesequence, though? Please tell
us your Skyrim side quest.

(01:11:07):
We're ready.
Okay. Okay.

Lauren (01:11:09):
So my favorite Skyrim side quest is called
Laid to Rest.
And it isthe one where you find this
burned out house and youhear about the town that
this man's wife and daughterburned to death.
And then he married anotherwoman the next day.

(01:11:32):
Oh, so you find this littleghost girl, and she's just
like, I want to play hideand seek me, me, me.
And then it turnsout the woman who married
the father is a vampire.
And so she's like, you know,done some mind control
or whatever.
And she vampire the wife,I guess.

(01:11:59):
And then now she just murderedher, I guess.

Gabe (01:12:05):
Oh, aren't you saying she turned her into a vampire?

Lauren (01:12:08):
No, I'm saying she.

Gabe (01:12:09):
No, she's murder.

Lauren (01:12:11):
She murdered.

G (01:12:11):
Her. She chopped the jugular.

Lauren (01:12:13):
She chapter.
Yeah, she chopped her theirkill, but she chopped
the wife and they likeand the vampires.
Assistant vampire, I guess,tried to turn the child
into a vampire and sothat they had to burn down
the house to like cover upthose bodies, basically.

(01:12:34):
So then you have to fightthe vampire and it's just
this whole thing, but it'sjust such a laid little story,
this little drama whereyou're like, Oh, you have to
solve this murder crime, andthen you have to do this
other thing. And it justreally just lays out from
beginning to end, has a bitof tragedy.
It has a little bit ofhumor and just like

(01:12:57):
ridiculousness in it.
It's just personally,I think it's perfect.

G (01:13:04):
Well, and it's more than just the classic side quest.
Please go get me ten chickens.
You know, I.
But when you start to me.
I know. I know what you'retalking about. I remember the
burnt house and the little girl.

Lau (01:13:14):
I play it every single time in Skyrim. Every single
time. I'm just like, we'llkind of do it.

Gabe (01:13:19):
Hunted down.

Laure (01:13:21):
Like, I got to go get the ghost and free
the little girl ghost.
And it's just the whole thing.
Yeah.

Gabe (01:13:29):
Well, and, like, thinking about it too, right?
And the whole thing of ourpodcast, like, what a joke.
That that's a psychosisbecause, like, that's like a
big deal.
That's what I'm saying.
Or for.

Lauren (01:13:41):
People in that.

Gabe (01:13:43):
Town.

Lauren (01:13:44):
Like, that is a mean monument. QUEST Like the
whole. Yeah, tryingto hunt down, like who
murdered this white thiswoman and child, and then he
married her and then thiswhole thing happened.
So it's just like drama,drama, drama.
It's a whole thing.
Like, you could make anentire game just

(01:14:05):
focused on that.
And that's I mean,it's so perfect because it's
a full story beginning to end.

Gabe (01:14:12):
Mm hmm.

Lauren (01:14:12):
And you, as your character, have just
wandered in andare put in charge of the
investigation because that'swhat you're good at.
But, yeah.
Wrong place, wrong time, rightplace, right time.
Who knows?
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
Yeah. I like that sugarclosure. I like when you do
get closure.

(01:14:33):
I don't open ended well.

Laur (01:14:36):
And there's so many Skyrim side quests that are like
that. And you think aboutlove where you get to say,
okay, well, I can decide ifI want to give this guy's
letter to her, this guy'sletter to her. And I can
kind of choose my own adventure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, from herperspective, she's like,
Well, I've got these two lovers,and this one's being nice to
me, but then this one'sreally interesting and so

(01:14:59):
on and so forth and.
But I think my favorite,like short little kind of
side quests in Skyrim arewhen you are running around
trying to steal beer for peopleand they're like, I would
like an ale, goacquire one, thank you.
And you give it to him andthen he, like, gives you
something.

(01:15:24):
It's just fun.
But it is his primary objective.
Yeah. Must find beer.
You have found a helper whowill bring you beer.
Excellent.

Gabe (01:15:34):
Who doesn't want to help?
Who bring you beer?

Lauren (01:15:37):
I mean, honestly, you're truly in their world.
We are just so excitedto be doing this podcast, to
be talking abouteverything tech,
gaming, women and gaming.
Getting to know each otherand ourselves better.

(01:16:02):
We would love ifyou have anything to
contribute to the Tea Party.
Send it in.
We've got no side quests atgmail.com.
You can find us at no sidequests on Instagram
and Twitter and YouTube.

Gabe (01:16:18):
Yeah. Links.
Links will be in thedescription.
I'll make sure to put that alldown there.
Yeah.
Yeah. We have been nerdingout about this.
Like, every time we talk aboutit, we go like this weekly.
Like we've. We've been powerbrainstorming and thinking
about and having, honestly,having so much fun.

(01:16:39):
And I'm, like yousaid, no side quests pretty
much on everything YouTube isI don't believe in side
quests, but all the otherstuff is pretty much no side
quests.
Well, at least in thedescription you can be found.

Lauren (01:16:55):
Yes, I can be found at sweetie underscore potent
as w i.

Gabe (01:17:05):
S.W. E.T..
I e underscore p0tattwitch twitter.
Instagram.
Question for you, notInstagram. Okay, twitch,
twitter.

Lauren (01:17:18):
Just twitch and.

Ga (01:17:19):
Twitter. Twitch and Twitter.
I can be found thatninja out of us.
Any and why a a a s.
I'll put all those links downbelow. Twitch, Twitter,
Instagram, YouTube.
I'm really terrible at all ofmy social media.
But you know what? One daywe're getting there.
I also.

Lau (01:17:38):
I've forgotten how to spell sweetie.

Gabe (01:17:41):
Ten out of ten.
We also have a discordthat you can go in.
I will give your thoughts,leave a review, I think
is what they are like withyour thoughts and your opinions.
Things you want us to work on.
Yes, definitely.
Be sending in your drama.
The T.
We want the T for our segments.
And Ithink I think that pretty much

(01:18:02):
covers it.
We don't really have an outrobesides that.

Lauren (01:18:07):
Outro coming soon.

Gabe (01:18:09):
Coming.

Lauren (01:18:09):
So love you guys.
And we hope you have an amazingweek.

Gab (01:18:15):
Yep. And we'll catch you in episode two for.
Nancy Drew Our Biggest Passion.

Lauren (01:18:22):
Episode two Nancy Drew.
Truly, truly our biggestpassion.

Gabe (01:18:27):
All right.
Bye bye, guys.
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