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Welcome to, I Get it from mymom, where we talk about the
things parents and childrenshould be talking about anyway,
but with more honesty andlaughter.
I'm Elissa, a working mom wholoves to travel, but also knows
the struggle of family tripsthat are anything but relaxing.
I'm Ava, I'm 18 and I fullybelieve vacations should include
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two things, ocean views and noalarms.
And I'm Maggie.
I'm 15 and I want activities,cute outfits, and good food.
Today we're diving into thehighs and lows of family
vacations, how they've changedfrom when you were babies to now
what we've learned and howtravel can bring families closer
or make us temporarily want torun away.
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And you may have very happilynoticed that Ava is finally
healthy and back with us forthis podcast.
Yay.
Oh, I'm glad you said happilynotice.
But what the audience can't seeis how tan you both are.
Since everyone did just go backfrom your first vacation without
me.
We totally missed you.
If that helps.
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I mean, kinda.
All right, let's go way back tobefore kids, before packing
cubes, before asking, is thatliquid under three ounces?
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Dad and I were your classicoverworked couple who took trips
to unwind.
We traveled to places likeIceland, Greece, new Orleans,
California, tucked awayCaribbean islands with zero
bedtime routines or nap windowsto worry about.
I feel like I keep learningabout more of these trips.
You two went on without us theother day.
I learned that you guys went tothe Olympics.
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I didn't even know that.
How could that have even beenfun without us?
And I guarantee there were stillnaps by the way.
For sure.
Maggie.
We are the best Nappers.
And we did gloriously enjoy alife before children.
If you can imagine, we'd wakeup, maybe grab breakfast and not
have to debate whether the dayplan included a waterpark.
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Well, was dad always thevacation planner?
Yes.
It started with our honeymoon.
Actually, I bore the brunt ofthe wedding planning.
Well, really, Grammy and Papadid.
But I had a lot to do with it,so I asked him to take on the
honeymoon planning and heexcelled at it.
We had the most glorious andadventurous trip to South Africa
and the Island of Mauritius.
Dad arranged everything fromflights to cars, to hotels, to
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safari game drives, to dinnerson the beach, and he's been our
vacation planner ever since.
You guys clearly got to go tosome amazing places.
Yes, we were very lucky.
Dad's work often took us both toincredible places.
Most memorable being theOlympics in Athens, Greece, that
I've alluded to towards the golfProAm in Pebble Beach.
So I got to see lots ofcelebrities.
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We went on an island adventurein Nevis, went on many trips to
Charleston, and I learned how toski on trips to Vermont.
But you had work trips too,right?
Yes, but those were without dadand involved a lot more work
than some of his did.
But I've been able to traveleverywhere from London and Paris
to all over China to even Russiawith work.
The opportunities have beenamazing.
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Well, it's good that you and dadlike the same things on
vacation.
Lots of relaxation with someelements of fun and adventure.
Yeah, we've never been the superspontaneous types, as you both
know, but we've always lovedtraveling, so I do absolutely
recommend for anyone listeningget lots of travel before the
kids come, or multiple kidscome, because while vacations
are amazingly fun with childrentoo, truly, but they are not the
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same.
So book that trip, sleep inorder, the fancy wine.
But let's jump into, once youguys came along and you
eventually did come along whenyour babies vacations were less
vacation and more survival withthe change of scenery, the
amount of stuff we brought,bottles, diapers, wipes, toddler
snacks, toys, backup outfits.
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I've always said they were morelike relocations than ca banca
than v vacate.
I've always easy for you to sayclearly.
Have not always said that.
I've always never been able tosay they were more like
relocations than vacations orstuff, and chaos still followed.
Well, what kind of vacationswere best when were babies?
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Well, we actually lead towardstwo things.
One direct flights.
And two, I hate to say it beennicer hotels.
Not that you have to spend a tonof money, but hotels that have
cribs and high chairs and akids' playroom and maybe a
nighttime babysitting service.
You know, those things made it alot easier and a lot more
enjoyable.
Our first real vacation withyou, Ava, was to a Caribbean
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island.
When you were like eight monthsold, you slept in a rollaway
crib.
In the closet.
Um, dad would do the 5:30 AMshift with you taking a walk in
the stroller and giving you abottle.
I'd come outside at 7:38 AMyou'd both be past asleep, under
an umbrella out near the pool.
And then we'd spend the daysplashing in the pool, dipping
our toes in the beach, sand,playing with blocks in the kid,
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playroom with naps, diapers,bottles, baby food, all in
between.
Wait, wasn't that the vacationthat you met Conan O'Brien
because he had a baby there too?
Yes.
Yes.
Conan had two children and heand his wife and his children
and their nanny were actuallyvacationing there.
and we befriended them.
They were like our vacationfriends that week.
That was very cool.
Daddy's cling to fame for sure.
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We even at pictures, right?
So, but the most memorable part,Ava was being away with you.
Yeah, I bet.
That sounds fun.
But there had to be some horrorstories from traveling with us
as babies though.
No.
Oh, we weren't perfect.
No, no, definitely for sure.
Definitely not perfect.
Ava was terribly sick when wetook her to the Dominican
Republic when she was like lessthan two years old.
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Not my fault.
Um, we almost had to take her tothe hospital there, but
thankfully met a wonderfulAmerican doctor at the hotel who
helped us out.
And Maggie, we learned that youget plane sick when you are
about six months old on our wayto Florida.
Being the great mom I am.
I had a spare set of clothes foryou.
The best mom being the great momI am.
I had a spare set of clothes foryou, but a last nothing extra
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for me as I was covered in yourpuke.
Ah, sounds not so fun.
So why even travel with us atthat age?
You know, it was about makingmemories even for us chaotic
ones, yes.
But memories.
I have pictures of you both inmatching bathing suits, holding
popsicles bigger than yourfaces.
You enjoyed the pool in newplaces.
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You actually both traveledpretty easily.
You eventually napped in astroller on a launch lounge
chair, wherever we were.
And remember, we worked fulltime.
So having a week off with justyou and no outside childcare was
great for all of us.
Even if we were exhausted, wewere together away from work and
laundry and dishes.
I am sure he definitelyappreciated it.
Even if we did ruin some mealswith crying and interrupting
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your wine time seriously.
So interruptive of the winetime.
All right, but once you were inelementary school trips got
easier.
You could eat real food.
Walk around on your own, carryyour own backpack.
Honestly, I think anything witha hotel pool worked for us and
we loved the pools and waterslides and at crayons of
Atlantis in The Bahamas.
Yeah, absolutely.
You were curious, you wereinterested, you were fun and
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less scheduled, so fewermeltdowns.
Generally.
We could go to museums, walkcities, and you actually
remembered things.
It was nice.
That's when the Disney yearscame along.
Oh God, yes.
Disney World, Disneyland, DisneyCruise.
I'm done with Disney.
Well, I know there's a lot ofDisney people out there, but
what about advice for peoplejust going to Disney?
All right.
Yeah.
I'll preface this with.
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We are not some Disney obsessedpeople, so we didn't have some
particular anything weabsolutely need to do.
There were no characters youwere dying to see, which helped.
In fact, you were both a littleskittish of characters, which is
good.
So you never made us wait onthose like long hot lines for
hugs or autographs or whatever,fine by us.
And I would say rather thanpaying a lot of money for that
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whole like bi bitty bty salonthing they have or whatever we
dressed you in, dress up clothesor nightgowns that we had and we
put, you know, our hair in a bunand you guys were happy.
You didn't need all that and wedidn't need all that.
So that really, really helped.
And we just like anything else,we never overscheduled you a
little kid.
No way.
Can do a full park in a day andnight.
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So we go in the morning, comeback and swim and nap and then,
you know, decide do we go backin the evening?
Do we do something else?
We use Fast Pass where we couldto avoid lines or whatever they
call that these days.
That definitely helps.
And we knew your meltdownsweren't thankfully kind of
valid.
You were hungry or tired or hot,so we worked around them and
accepted them.
We never expect anything to goperfectly, but I will say big
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plug for Disney, they have thebest strollers.
I think they still have them.
They were like big and plastic.
You could put so much stuff onthem.
Even like a 10-year-old couldfall asleep in those.
They have everything.
Use the Disney strollers.
Well, I think the best trip, wewent almost to Hawaii eight
years ago.
We did so much stuff there.
That was definitely fun.
It was New Year's, surfinglessons, hiking a volcano,
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exploring the Maui Coast,dancing at the low out.
I do remember thinking I wasgonna die at that volcano
though.
I wanna put it out there.
I was the first one to stand upduring surfing lessons.
Actually, the only one I think.
I was the first were surfing andmaybe only one who stood up
during surfing lessons and ourhotels had the best pools, which
kept us interesting.
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There were so many slides and alazy river, and the whole thing
was like its own littleadventure, a rope swing.
The little underwater elevatorthey had.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, I forgot about that.
And plus it was over Hanukkah,so we got eight days of presence
in Hawaii.
Yes, that definitely helped.
It always does.
Yeah, that was a super memorabletrip.
But some of the most memorablemoments were actually the ones
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we didn't plan.
Like, I don't know if you guysremember, we pulled off on the
side of the road and took thislike long path down and there
was like this cliff and peoplesurfing there.
Or explored some likerestaurants and beaches just
because we saw cars pullingover.
We're like, oh, that must begreat, and try that.
So they were less popular, butit was actually even more fun
and interesting.
I really don't remember that.
No, of course not.
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I believe it.
I believe that it happened, butI also feel like we had a lot of
say in things we did at thatage, picking our outfit or the
type of food we wanted, or wewanted to just relax at a pool
versus walk through a cityversus being younger and just
kinda.
Going along with the flow.
Yeah, no, I think it's importantto have, you guys have voice in
things and kids have voice inthings.
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It helps set everyone up forsuccess.
And in cities like Chicago orPhiladelphia, when we visited,
you know, we very much geared ittowards activities that you'd
wanna do, like the police touchmuseum or going, you know, to
the pier and going all rides youknow, we just knew we wanted to
give you options at times too.
Do you want to eat this type offood or that type of food?
Should we get ice cream now ordo we get, you know, cookies
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later?
I think all of that, helps evenas you're scheduling things to
keep it a little loose so thatkids feel like they're empowered
to enjoy it the way they want toalso and we can't forget the
contributions daddy made foralways setting us up for
success.
He was always researching thebest restaurants, the right
museums to go to, the walkingtours, the educational stuff.
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That was also still fun.
Always before making sure we hadthe perfect things to do that
would keep us entertained.
Absolutely.
And you know what we geared whatwe could see your schedule.
So we didn't try to push youinto super late meals or super
late bedtimes.
'cause that just set us up tofail.
Right.
We met you at the age you're atand tried our best to work
around it.
Um, but those school age yearsare actually awesome for family
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travel.
Kids are excited to do newthings and you guys still like
really like to be with us, whichwe appreciate.
Which has definitely changed.
Yeah, totally.
We'll get into.
But traveling with teens now islike managing a lot of agendas
and tastes and desires and moodsand schedules.
Even logistically, you're twogrown girls, you really can't
share a bedroom with dad formore than one night.
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It becomes awkward.
So we need to get hotel suitesor two separate rooms, which add
costs and scheduling, And I tendto like activities.
I can't just sit around all dayand I need to plan all my
outfits for the activities so Iknow what to pack.
'cause I'm the worst packer.
And honestly, I think vacationsare the only time in my life
that I don't want everythingplanned.
To me, life and school are busyenough.
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I am good with beach sleep.
Repeat a little pool, a littlegym and sun.
Right.
And dad and I like a mix.
We don't wanna be overpackedwith things in our schedule, but
we also just can't sit aroundall day.
So we try to mix our vacationsup.
We still try to do a beachoriented vacation each year,
where the days are a littlelaier.
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We pepper with golf time or gymtime and long walks.
And golf carts.
And golf carts.
But we also love that you're oldenough to do real cities and
late nights.
So we've chosen places like LasVegas or New Orleans to go to as
a family.
And I love ski trips.
I'm definitely grateful youtaught us to ski when we were
young, so it's a nice familyactivity we can all do together,
even when sometimes it doesn'tgo perfect.
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Yep.
Sometimes you break a foot down,so wonder who causes that.
Not my fault.
I broke my foot.
Yes, you have both far surpassedme in ski skills, but you know,
I love my apre ski snack anddrink time.
Nothing better than I'm clippingthose boots in front of a
fireplace.
And I also appreciate that atthis age we have the freedom to
do our own things without you.
So we can go for a bike ride ora different restaurant or go
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shopping without you, me and Avatogether.
We can sleep in and then meet upsomewhere later if we really
want to.
Yeah, no, we recognize that yourlives are busy too, and it's
your vacation, even if we'repaying for it.
So we want you happy and to beable to take breaks from us or
each other even if needed.
So we tell you when we'dideally, like you wake up for
things, but also let you sleepin some mornings, and we know
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you stay up late.
So we now aim for nighttimeactivities or shows or things to
do too.
I also think for certainvacation, getting things like
Airbnbs or rental houses made alot of sense.
So we didn't have to eat everymeal out we could cook at home.
Having a kitchen, having morespace and rooms, and even being
able to do things like laundry.
Yeah, it actually helps us packless, even though Maggie still
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needs to have all those, I need.
What are we doing for dinner?
Is it fancy?
Is it all fancy?
Is it a skirt?
Is it a jean?
Short?
Is it a dress?
So many options.
Yeah, we've learned thattraveling with teens again isn't
about the perfect trip.
It's about finding a balance tobe together and give you
independence the same way youwant.
And hope you'll appreciate thetime we spend together and the
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memories we build.
We definitely do.
You guys have also done sometraveling though without us
even.
Why?
Daddy and I had a life beforeyou.
You have a life without us.
Ava, you did a teen tour of theWest Coast a few years ago and
Maggie's doing a similar onethis summer.
Yeah, it was.
It was really fun.
I gotta admit.
I mean, the idea of basicallybeing on a camp that travels
around the West Coast was prettygreat.
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Seeing new cities, new friends,barely any adults around, but
you know, we also had to do ourown laundry, manage spending
money, which was definitely agood step towards independence.
And I mean, if you counttraveling a college of travel, I
definitely did that alone too.
Yeah.
Do you remember a favorite placeyou went to on the trip Ave.
Okay.
I'm a kind of an amusement parknut, so I really liked going to
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the different amusement parks,doing Disney and Universal, like
those kinds of things that maybeI did as a kid, but now did
older.
But it was definitely cool tosee some places I've never seen
before.
I Then you did the um, OlympicPark that was in Salt Lake.
That was very cool.
You liked that one too.
Utah.
That was cool.
Yeah, and we've been to some ofthe places like Vegas or
Scottsdale, but I think I'm mostlooking forward to the
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California stuff like the SanFrancisco or the San Diegos.
Also the new.
Cities and walk around places.
And we've also been on manyovernight school trips.
Like I went to Frost Valley withschool in eighth grade, which is
like a camp, and we did outdoorstuff and we, it was in the
snow, so we had a big snowballfight.
And then know for senior year wehave an overnight trip, and camp
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alone is a whole trip withoutyou guys, especially when they
take us on their own littlesmall things like the three
night trip to Boston or.
To an amusement park too for thewhole day.
It's a whole trip in itself.
Without you guys, it's plenty oftravel without us, it seems.
Yeah, and I'm definitely lookingforward to studying abroad for a
semester, hopefully my junioryear, honestly, I'm thinking
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maybe Spain or Italy, butliterally anywhere in Europe.
I will be fine with.
I loved my semester abroad inEngland and the backpacking
through Europe on weekends orholidays or afterwards was by
far the best part.
And I can't wait to visit youwherever you study, since I
haven't been to something likeSpain or Italy in a long time.
Oh man, what a tough life youhave.
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Having to come visit me inEurope.
Yeah, what a tough life.
You have me spending money foryou to live there.
And I mean, I know plenty ofpeople that took a gap year
after high school, beforecollege to like live abroad or
study abroad or whatever it is,which is also, you know, so
cool.
Yeah, no, absolutely greattravel.
So, you know, letting kidstravel independently, I think
helps them grow.
It teaches adaptability and realworld confidence, and I'm glad
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we've been able to offer theseopportunities to you.
Okay.
Let's do some fast topic q and Aon vacations.
Now, do you like when we travelthe four of us, or do you prefer
when it's with the larger familyor other family friends?
Honestly, I think it's kind of amix.
Sometimes it's easier when it'sjust the four of us on certain
vacations, fewer opinions,easier to get reservations, not
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having to work around everyone'sschedules.
But we've had some amazing bigfamily vacations and I'm really
grateful that our grandparentsget to take us all away and we
get to travel and it's honestlysome of my best memories with
the whole family and cousins andeverything like that are from
vacations.
Yeah, I definitely like hangingout with our cousins when we get
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to go away, since we don't do sofor such extended periods of
time otherwise.
But I also even like the skiweekends or family friends since
it's nice to get out and be withother families and kids our own
age.
And I'm grateful that this pastweek I got to have one of my
closest friends come to Floridasince Ava couldn't join.
And it wouldn't be the same ifit was just me, you, and dad.
I need someone my age to do myown things with, but not being
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alone.
Dude, I am so cool to hang outwith.
What do you mean?
So cool.
My best friend and I get thattotally.
All right.
Next favorite vacation we'vetaken.
Casa, hands down every time.
If you don't know what we'retalking about, we go to a resort
called Casa de Campo and theDominican Republic.
We've been multiple times, and Ijust don't think any vacation
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ever matches up to it.
It's not just the place it'sgoing with family.
It's the best.
I don't wanna copy Ava, but Ithink I'd also say the same.
It's just at this point, we'vebeen there so many times that
going back just feels sowelcoming.
We know the area, we know how toget around.
Again, always going with family.
It's always a differentadventure every time we go, but
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I also think any of the smalltrips we've taken, we mentioned
Hawaii before, which is superfun.
Any place where we get toexplore something new or see
something new or just get tolearn about something is always
interesting to me.
I mean, we literally lived NCasa for a month.
Yeah, that's true.
So over covid, with all of usbeing remote, we took the
opportunity to live in DominicanRepublic for a few weeks because
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at least we could be outsidewithout masks.
While otherwise, in New YorkCity we were very trapped and
you know, the circumstances wereterrible and we were very remote
in terms of working and schoolin our real lives, but we also
got to live at a beach in ahouse and do things like zip
lining and driving around ingolf carts and boating, and I'm
super grateful we had that timeagain, under the worst of
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circumstances.
Okay.
Any memorable vacation mishaps?
I remember when we went toHawaii, dad thought he was so
cool renting us a sports carwith no top.
But we couldn't fit anything inthat car.
We could barely fit ourselvesand we couldn't fit any luggage
or beach chairs.
Not the best decision.
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And this one wasn't really amishap, but I did lose my first
tooth in Jamaica, chewing on atowel.
And I ripped outta my mouth.
And then Ava, in that month wewere living in the Dominican
Republic, burned her hand fromcooking and had to go to a
doctor.
Yeah.
That was not very fun.
And Uncle Pete always loses orleaves a bag or piece of luggage
behind every single time, every,every single time.
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It's ridiculous.
No, those are good points.
I think the good news is weactually haven't had too many
mishaps.
Normally our flights haven'tbeen an issue.
Our hotel rooms are available orcars, like dad's such a good
planner that I think we've, youknow, done pretty well.
We don't always go away, ofcourse, because no one can
afford to and no one always hasthe time to.
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So we've spent many vacations orholidays at home.
So what's your favoritestaycation activity?
Well, I mean, we definitely havethe benefit of living in New
York City, so I mean, I think myanswer's always gonna be a
Broadway show, but you know,being in college, I'm definitely
grateful for not going awayevery vacation because I like to
just come home and I think Ilike the nights where we get to
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stay in and play board games asa family or cook new things when
we did sushi, dumplings, thatkind of stuff.
It's always nice to.
Have a family night in and dosomething new and then play a
game together at the end, orwatch a movie or a show.
We're really good at New Year'spotlucks.
We are very good.
I love both of those answers.
Okay.
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Dream destination.
I think my dream destinationwould be Europe.
I definitely, I think like inItaly, I think Italy is a very
good mix of like a beach in atown, which is something I like.
I love a good ra, relaxing on abeach, sitting down.
But I need an activity.
I love exploring a new city,eating good food, and I think
Italy or even just like a Greeceor an just anywhere
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Mediterranean type.
Yeah, just anywhere in Europewhere there's a beach, but also
a nice town to explore issomething that keeps me
entertained and I really wannasee the most.
Well, that was also my answer,but I'll answer something else.
I guess kind of.
I would also love like a Londonor Paris, that kind of thing.
Definitely just, you know, a newcity.
And you know, I would nevercomplain about being taken to
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Paris, so definitely cannot.
You guys are so deprived.
All right, well I actually havea long list and we're deprived.
So my first is, I'd actuallylove to take you on an African
safari.
Daddy and I had done it on ourhoneymoon and we actually said,
when we have teenagers, we'll dothis again.
You're teenagers.
We're slowly missing theopportunity, but it's something,
I think it's just a great.
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Totally different type ofexperience.
That was great.
I've never been to Japan andKorea, which seems so far.
I wanna go to Japan too.
Yeah.
But they're supposed to bebeautiful.
We love the food.
That's true.
True.
Um, there's so much, again, Ty,different types of cities and
things to explore.
So I think that would mine, I'vealways wanted to go something
like Bali where you have one ofthose like.
Huts over the water, whatever.
Yeah.
I don't think this is actuallyfamily versus like me and daddy
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more romantic or even a fungirls trip where you're like
living in like island tiki huttype thing and.
So that's always good.
Um, let's see.
I have others.
I'm, I've never, I went to Italywhen I was much younger,
backpacking, so I've never beenback as adult.
So dad and I would love toexplore that together.
And I'd say lastly, Israel, Iwent as a teenager.
None of you have been there,including dad.
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I don't know that we're supercomfortable going now, but I
certainly absolutely 100% wannado that with the family.
Definitely.
And experience that together.
Really what it means is we'regonna have to, you know, keep
working to earn money for allthese vacations you wanna take
is start negotiating with work.
Get many more.
I got two jobs this summer.
If it helps, I feel like themean is Italy.
So I go Italy.
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Italy first, sorry.
Maybe on the way to Japan andthen we circle back.
We'll, for Africa, yeah,totally.
Oh, in Australia, we've neverbeen to Australia.
We have too many bugs.
I'm terrified of, sounds liketoo long of a plane ride for me.
Okay.
Snakes, maybe there's Australiathen.
Alright, so we've been reallylucky, obviously, in having this
conversation that we're lookingback at 18 plus years of travel
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here.
Yeah.
I mean, I think we vacation welltogether, honestly, as a family.
I mean, sure there's alwayslittle mishaps, or we get on
each other's nerves every oncein a while.
Never get on each other's there.
That happens at home.
I actually think that mostvacations we tend to be even
more cohesive.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree, and I love how we'vealways gone to explore other
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countries, national parks,cities, and especially other
cultures.
And in some case, gone to do itwith extended family too.
Yeah, agreed.
I think travel teaches us toshow up, be present, be
flexible, be with each other,and not work, which is the best
part.
So thanks girls for joining meon this trip down memory lane.
You see what I did there?
Oh, yay.
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Funny.
So funny.
And to our listeners, we hope itmade you laugh, not along, and
maybe even rethink your nextvacation.
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Poolside.
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