November 14, 2024 • 28 mins
Have you ever wondered if electrostimulation is only for men? Our special guest Liz, with over 20 years in the kink scene, is here to help shatter that myth. Join us as Liz takes us on her personal journey in kink.
Together with Caz (Wifey), we explore just some of the variety of e-stim devices we offer. We focus on the importance of thoughtful design, safety considerations, and the exhilarating potential of remote control systems. Liz shares her dual perspective as both a new user and a Dominatrix, highlighting how these devices can provide both pleasure and control, tailored to individual preferences and experiences.
Listen in as we challenge stereotypes and embrace the adaptability of electro play for women. Discover how these experiences can be personalized for solo adventures or shared with a partner, offering endless enjoyment and exploration. Liz's enthusiasm for her newfound knowledge and her excitement about future explorations is contagious, leaving listeners eager for more insights into the dynamic world of E-Stim or ElectroPlay for women.
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Wayne (00:00):
Hello everyone.
It's Wayne here from EastinSystems, and today we're going
to talk about somethingcompletely different.
We're not going to talk aboutboxes.
We're not going to talk aboutproduct.
We're going to talk about howto use the product, and we're
going to do it in a completelydifferent way.
We're going to talk about howto use the product from a female
perspective.
Now I've got myself twoglamorous assistants.
We have Bones, who you'vepossibly met before, and we have
(00:21):
a very great friend, liz, whohas never used Eastin before but
is willing to try.
So this is going to be a greatopportunity to introduce Eastin
from a female perspective.
But there is a problem.
Liz (00:33):
Yeah, there is.
You're not a woman.
Wayne (00:37):
No, not am I, oops, but I have a solution.
Caz (00:42):
Surprise, hi Hi, I am a woman.
Surprise, hi Hi, I am a woman.
You are, indeed.
I'm the wifey and also a verygood friend of yours, isn't she?
Yes, we are, and we're going totalk about all things Eastim,
and I'm going to let you seewhat it feels like.
Hi, it's Kaz, aka the wifeyfrom Eastim Systems, and I've
(01:05):
been joined today by Liz.
Would you like to introduceyourself a bit more?
Liz (01:10):
Hi, my name's Liz.
I am a kinky female there yougo.
Caz (01:15):
A kinky female.
How's that?
How long have you classedyourself as being a kinky female
, for I would say a little over20 years.
Liz (01:24):
I reckon Sort of like pretty much from early
encounters.
I mean, you know, teenagersfooling around and just finding
other things more appealing, Iguess, which is great now
because so many things are somuch more acceptable now.
I remember I was talking aboutthis with somebody recently that
(01:45):
when I you know, way back whenI was in school and nu metal was
a brand new thing in highschool and Slipknot first came
out and their drummer and hismask, that game I was about 16
years old.
That made me think lots andlots of things about the long
hair and the mask and keepingthe mask on.
And now people are like, ohyeah, masks, it's a whole thing.
(02:09):
But 16, 17, 18 years old, itwas not a thing then and it sort
of went from things like thatto liking being restrained or a
little bit of breath, play andthings and not really knowing
what it was then until probablyby the time I was about 20 and
got involved with other morelike-minded people and everybody
(02:30):
has that pilgrimage to torturegarden and things like that the
scene has changed.
Caz (02:34):
It's become a big one.
So during all yourexperimentation, have you ever
played your electro play oranything?
Liz (02:41):
yes, not as much as I would like to.
I again, it was probably about20 years ago now when I first
even heard of like violet wandsand then fell down that rabbit
hole of the fact that it was avictorian thing as well and
being thoroughly interested bythat side of things and the the
historic and the antique and thezappy zappy play.
(03:03):
But certainly back then it waslike you either bought an
antique thing or spent five orsix hundred pounds on what was
around at the time, so that wasnot really something that 20
year old me could do.
And then, certainly later on,as I've got back into the scene,
I do have a few external clipon things.
(03:23):
I got a?
Um, I do have a few externalclip-on things.
I do have a violet wand.
I'm still holding out for anantique one because I just think
they look really cool.
I'm not sure I'd risk using it,but they look really cool in
the box.
Caz (03:34):
They are very showy-offy.
Have you ever actually tried toease them?
I have not.
Have you ever used anythinglike a TENS machine or used it
on a person?
Liz (03:44):
use them on people and I've used them on me for both uses.
Actually the actual ow.
This really hurts andapparently this helps outlook as
well as the oh okay.
Caz (03:56):
So easter is, you know, isn't just for men one of the
conceptions out there.
A lot of people think, oh yeah,easter it's just a man's thing
and it's designed more for malegenital.
But actually ladies can playwith it.
I'm going to give you anelectric child and I want you to
close your eyes and I want youto imagine.
It's somewhere more interesting.
We can't do full demonstrationson here and I'll talk through
(04:19):
the sensation with you and Iwill talk about how it can be
used and what other placeseastern for women can be used
safety checks.
Wayne (04:25):
Please do not play with any eastern equipment if you are
pregnant, have a heartcondition, suffer from epilepsy
or have any form of electronicimplant so this is an ideal
vaginal probe for lady.
Caz (04:38):
In fact you've got two contact points, top and bottom,
and you have this lovely flange,flangey around the edge here
which on some ladies can hit thelabia and on some ladies in the
right position does hit theelusive clitoris, and it's
called a flange electrode.
It is bipolar, an idealbeginner one really.
There are some out on themarket, some white electrodes
(04:58):
with small like contacts side byside where the sensation was
sort of like a round aroundsensation.
But this one, the sensation isgenerally top to bottom nope,
nope, okie, dokie.
Liz (05:08):
Right, if you want to hold that in your hand I mean, just
even before you do, I would saywith I keep keep doing this, but
just just, the quality is sosmooth that looks really
obviously as you said internally, but also that looks like just
the right kind of size and assmooth and that to hold on your
(05:31):
clit as well as a direct youcould bounce off the surface.
Caz (05:35):
You could hold it on your clit, but what will happen is,
because you've only got onecontact on your clit, you might
not feel the sensation as much.
You do need to make sure bothcontacts are thing.
I will get onto electro oneswhich you can use on your clit
as much.
You do need to make sure bothcontacts are thing.
I will get onto electro oneswhich you can use on your clear
to look better.
So you just need to hold it inone hand, please, and touch both
contacts top and bottom.
We have here our helix controlbooks.
(05:55):
This is the regeneration ofwhat was our original series,
one easy to use.
We've got power setting, feel,which controls how spiky or soft
what you feel be, and speed,which works with the pulsing
modes.
I'm going to switch it on andlet me know when you can feel
anything.
I would actually say close youreyes and just imagine this is
somewhere else.
It's quite prickly at themoment, isn't it?
(06:17):
Let's soften those spikes out alittle bit and of course, you
can make it pulsar stuff.
There's definitely food forthought going on there.
Is it how you thought your film?
Liz (06:28):
no, no, I confess I did not know that.
When did you put it?
Smooth out the flow?
I didn't realize you couldadjust.
I figured it's because if Iturn it that way, it's quite
prickly yeah if I turn it thatway I suppose the science in
there somewhere is like thewaves are closer together than
further apart.
Caz (06:47):
They're closer together than further apart.
Liz (06:49):
But literally that I mean I , in my ignorance, previous
experience of just having thingsthat are it's stronger or it's
you know, the intensity iseither higher or lower and
that's it.
There's not a you can't messwith.
I'm going to say smoother thespiky.
Now that's going to be thephrase.
Now that's fine, smoother thespiky, but also that being able
(07:13):
to mess with the different pulseand things like that.
That is curious to know whatthe other settings are.
Caz (07:20):
Okay, so what I'll do?
I'll give that to you, I'll putit back on spiky.
I'll let you have a little play.
So that's your power.
Yeah, that's your spiky andsmooth and that's your pulsing.
And then, if you want to changethe mode, you press that button
there and it'll change to adifferent setting.
Okay, I'll let you have a playnow.
What liz is playing with is ourelectro helix, which is an ideal
(07:42):
beginner's unit and it's idealfor ladies as a start-out point.
It's easy to use, you have abit more control.
It can be used internally orexternally.
So what this is holding in thehand at the moment is a probe
that's been used internally, butyou can actually put sticky
pads.
You can put sticky pads eitherside of your labia lips, so that
way you're firm, pulsing, butthen go across the labia.
(08:03):
Okay, so it's quite aninteresting sensation.
So it's got various modes andsettings, and then with fire
mode.
Liz (08:13):
You'll feel nothing until you press that button.
So it's not fire button, it'sfire.
Caz (08:21):
Right, okay, it's an ultimate fire button.
Yes, that's nice.
Her face is ill.
Liz (08:32):
I think she's enjoying this .
I'm torn between this is reallypleasant and also feeling like
I'm doing a review here ofliterally just the consistency
to it, of the speed and thesmooth to spiky, etc.
Caz (08:48):
I cannot get over from a lady's point of view, that
internally you play around withthe senses.
Once you get that right settingyou can sort of wiggle the
electrodes around a little bit.
Sometimes you can get yourg-spot pads.
You can put them by yourclitoris.
Once you get the right settingsit can be really, really nice.
Liz (09:03):
But that right, there is a huge difference, for, just from
my perspective of what you guysdo, because it seems like a lot
of the time and I could be wrong, I apologise if I am, but it
seems like a lot of the timetoys are designed by men for
women and they've never owned avagina in their life.
Some of them, I wonder ifthey've even seen one, but
that's a separate story.
(09:23):
But literally, with a lot oflike with vibrators, a lot of
them, you get like slow to fastor medley, yeah, and who the
hell likes the medley button?
I'm not anybody who likes themedley button, where it's just,
we're going to just startgetting you somewhere.
They're going to switch to thissetting, that setting, that one
back again, and there's noconsistency to it.
So, literally, even on the milksetting, yeah, where it is
(09:46):
doing different things, there'sstill a rhythm to it.
Yeah, rather than, like I said,it's sort of annoys me about
some toys.
It's like, just, you know,welcome to Medley's Greatest
Hits.
Now, I might regret this now,but we're going to.
We're going to Going to try youon the fire button.
Photon torpedoes, number twoOkay, Photon torpedoes number
(10:08):
two.
Caz (10:08):
Okay, are you ready for this?
Yes, ma'am, so that's what thatwill be.
That's what we call the naughtybutton, fight button.
So please can I have some more?
Okay, she's enjoying this waytoo much.
Liz (10:28):
I can leave no no, no, no, of course not.
Caz (10:32):
I think it's it's, it's because that, that's all.
That that binds me is almostlike the post.
What did it feel like?
Liz (10:38):
oh yeah so it's not just for men no, it's really not but
also as a, as someone who isvery much into kink in their
personal life, as well as beinga dom as well.
I can see both sides of it forbeing very entertaining for
(10:59):
myself and and entertaining inanother way, of causing complete
torture for other people, whichis what I find entertaining you
know you're asking about on theclitoris.
Yes, ma'am.
Caz (11:10):
With the electro ones, obviously because you've got the
wider space in here, becauseyou've got the insulator
slightly closer together, aslightly smaller, close letter.
This one can actually be usedexternally as well, because you
can.
You know, you do have avibrator, you can rub it over
your external genitals, but thatyou can actually use on the
(11:31):
clitoris quite nicely.
I mean, this one's inserted,you can move it around and again
you can get your g-spot.
I am very sensitive right atthe very top around the cervical
area.
So some for me that was a bittoo intense, but for some other
ladies it's quite nice.
So this is quite nice to splitwith.
It's become my new best friend.
And then we go on to the otherfun fun things as well.
(11:53):
Because I mentioned sticky pads.
Sticky pads for ladies can bequite interesting.
If you set up your labia, youcan put a pad here and pad there
and you can put the clientacross, you can put it on, so
your clitoris some people putseem to put a pad on their fine,
a pad on their clitoris, to putit up that way.
Don't ask me why, but I haveseen people saying that's what
(12:14):
they do and they can be goodtrying, and you can also put a
pad either side of one nipple,but not one pad on one or on the
other, because you're going tocrush your chest with piercings.
If you want to be really cruelwith piercings, you can put the
pads on the piercings and itmakes them a little bit more
intense depending on where thepiercings are.
Liz (12:33):
Hey Macarena.
Caz (12:37):
One thing with piercings is we don't recommend that you use
them as a contact until atleast six months after they have
been done, because it takestime for the body to heal.
There are other electrodes thatcan be electrified for a female
it just looks like you know,made by nasa other electrodes
(13:00):
that can be used internally.
Obviously you've got the ones,you've got the flanges, you've
got a whole range of alldifferent ones, all different
shapes and sizes.
Liz (13:08):
I'm gonna I keep talking about the quality of the
machining and I'm over here likeit's so smooth, but it's it's
so smooth.
Caz (13:18):
What do you think of that one, this one on this one, if
you notice that the next is sortof based on top, so you only
insert it up to there, whereasthis one, from a female
perspective, you can actuallyinsert it to there, so you then
have that internal, thatinternal, that external.
I designed that one, I just Icame up with that design mainly
because a lot of what we weredoing from a female, from this,
(13:39):
was me looking at the electrodesfrom a female point of view.
The top of the bottom for mewas like, yeah, that's a great
idea, but it was just needingsomething else.
That's something more that cango that little bit further.
In this one does sometimes, atleast on me personally will sit
outside my g spot, so then itpulls the kind of customer g
spots.
So that's quite nice, and Ijust wanted something that's
(14:00):
just a bit more curvy, a bitmore feminine looking, and it
had that.
Hence why it's got the red neckas well, because I wanted to be
sort of slightly more femininelooking, although it can be used
by men and men do use them andit just gives you that option to
go that little bit further or,as you've mentioned that little
bit shallower, depending on howyou are down there really yeah,
(14:21):
and it very much has that kindof love, egg stroke, kegel
weight shape to it as well andthen we get onto the egg.
This is the diddy egg.
That one, again, you can popright up inside.
It can certainly get yourg-spot, and again you've got the
closer connection and you canagain use that on your clitoris
as well.
And how long's the cable?
Liz (14:42):
the cable is a meter and a half long up through the back of
your jeans into your hand.
Yep, yep, I just got.
Ideas are going to showWireless model coming soon.
Caz (14:51):
We do actually have a remote control system whereby
you could, whereby somebodycould, be wired up to an
electrode and then it can becontrolled from a distance.
We do actually have a remotecontrol system.
You don't necessarily have tobe in control yourself.
How am I going to touch thisthing?
You are going to plug it in andlet me touch it.
Let's have a shiny shiny.
Can I have the people please?
(15:12):
So we're now going to go up alevel, yes, ma'am, to the
intermediate box.
Now this is the electrode level.
So that one, the helix.
I showed you that one.
You know you can have oneelectrode in, so you can have an
internal decisions decisionswith this one, the pebble,
you've got two outputs, twocontrols so you can have
(15:33):
different level settings, andthis one's got nine modes.
I'm gonna switch this one andthis one's got in it one of my
favorite modes.
It's just got to be amicrophone does it talk to me as
well?
Liz (15:45):
I mean, do I not need men ever again?
Caz (15:50):
I don't know, depends.
Do you want to talk to me or doyou want to talk dirty with me?
Are you going to be naughty?
And because sound can soundfairies, you can actually
stimulate some music.
Choose copyright, you can'tplay any music, but you can
actually use.
Liz (16:06):
That's the sexual equivalent of the flower on top
of the TV the dancing flower.
Caz (16:20):
Imagine having that in your local club.
You just said you've just beento a really fun place.
There's probably no doubt hadmusic.
Liz (16:27):
It's a fantastic place with all my kind of heavy metal
going.
So, yeah, imagine heavy metalcoming through that, all that
nice bassy metal noisy I have afew playlists I'm just talking
about.
There we go.
I'm turning myself on.
Caz (16:43):
Come closer oh dear oh god, just my cackle is doing good
things Okay.
We actually tested the audio,crazy fuck.
Liz (16:56):
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Yep, yep, yep, I can see thatworking.
Yep, don't, because you do itlike that.
Now I'm hearing the littleYagala people for copyright
purposes, for ba-ba-ba means alot to me anyway.
Yep and um, my whole life has asoundtrack in all things, and
(17:23):
having sex without music on isjust why.
Am I bothering in my brainanyway, unless you're outside,
in which case sorry, sorry, I'mout of stealth, but literally
every time I laugh.
This is fun.
I have different playlists on myphone because for me personally
, when I'm, even when I'mplaying with myself, let alone
(17:46):
playing with other people, I dolike having music on.
That heightens it for me.
But again, if I'm with apartner, from from personal
perspective, one of the things Ilove to do is have I actually I
have a um, a bluetooth maskthat's got built-in earphones in
(18:07):
the actual mask or mask andregular earphones, whichever,
but so I can't see I got musicin my ears so that I have
different playlists that appealto that side of me.
And if we can do that and havemy hands tied up too, so that I
have different playlists thatappeal to that side of me, and
if we can do that and have myhands tied up too, so that I
can't interfere.
I'm not expected to do anything.
I can just feel what'soccurring and listen to the
music.
Very happy times.
Caz (18:28):
I quite like to spank and cane to music, need a rhythm.
So you have the electrodeinserted and then I can hear the
music with headphones and I canspank and cane, especially on
one on the A-Box, which is anaudio driven box, but you can
actually plug the, the audiosource, into the box and you can
actually put a splitter and putheadphones in.
So I can then spank and cane intime to music and then we feel
(18:50):
the sensation at the same timemakes playing them actually in a
really good game.
Going back to playing withsounds and microphones and
ambient music and what you canfeel.
There is actually a funny storyto go alongside that, which was
I had my partner suspended in aleather strapped bondage cage at
an event and it happened to betheir birthday and they were
(19:13):
wired up to an east end on audiowith the microphone mode on and
I got the whole club to singhappy birthday to them and give
them free chairs.
And to this day I think theyhaven't yet forgiven me.
But it was great fun for melistening to the video because
it had to be sung at such a niceloud tone more than once and it
(19:33):
was great fun.
So yes, I think Liz likes theaudio side of things, so again
also with the music audio sideof things.
It isn't just for men.
Liz (19:44):
No, that's just, you just need.
I was about to say you justneed ears, but you don't.
No, because you can feel it.
No, I hadn't even thought aboutthat for a second, because of
course I'm thinking obviouslyit's reacting to my voice and if
you put music to it it wouldpick up that and in rhythm to
that.
But yeah, just yeah, hadn'teven thought about it from that
(20:11):
side of things too back after abrief interlude, a few moments
later.
Caz (20:17):
So, liz, you've tried the Helix, you've tried the Pebble,
you've tried the Mose, you'vetried the Audio.
What if I was to say you canactually take it up even further
, in that all the otherelectrodes you've been holding
so far you've only had twopoints of contact.
What if I said you could havean electrode that's got three
points of contact?
Continue, we have what we callthe triple.
(20:44):
Okay, and this is a three pointof contact electrodes.
You've got one, two, three.
So you can't be as one, two,one, two, one, two, three, one,
two, because you've got threeconnectors in the bottom.
So let's try the triple, let'stry the triple.
I'm gonna put you in.
Liz (20:58):
You quite like to melt in here.
It was interesting.
Caz (21:02):
Yes, it's a good look.
You should start to feelsomething yep you can have part.
Liz (21:08):
Well, some parts more intense than others that's
completely the opposite to theother way now, because it's it's
the end that is really strongon this now there's a totally
different sensation.
Caz (21:17):
Yeah, and then for something a bit more interesting
, if I go into split, you shouldhave two bits that are
continuous and the third bitshould be pulsing slightly,
slightly is not the word for it,but yeah.
Liz (21:34):
That was an emphatic pulse.
Caz (21:36):
So it is a slightly different sensation, it is so
which is a slightly differentsensation.
Liz (21:39):
It is so which is the consistent one, the consistent
one on the output.
Caz (21:44):
So that's your consistence.
Level A is consistent.
Okay, that's the pulsing andthen the bit.
Get that one up a bit and youcan adjust it to make it pulse
faster with the adjust.
Liz (21:55):
Hold mixing desk here.
Oh, that's fine, but I couldsee talk about completely
customizable.
You could play around with thatfor a long, long time and
you're not limited to justhaving insertables.
Caz (22:12):
You can have insert and a pad.
Liz (22:15):
I like that.
That is the words have left me.
She's been left speechless.
Caz (22:21):
Yeah, that doesn't happen.
Liz (22:24):
I've actually left you speechless Also, you know,
trying to.
Caz (22:27):
Visualise it.
Liz (22:28):
I'm trying to keep the language above the watershed
level because we can put somebeeps in.
Well, you need a lot of themwith me normally, so I'm trying
to be nice, but that beeps in.
Wow, you need a lot of themwith me normally, so I'm trying
to be nice, but that oh, we weresaying before about how medley
version on things can be reallyannoying.
This is, this is the opposite.
So you've got that consistentbackground teasing and then
(22:50):
those extra spikes to add adifferent layer to it.
That is.
I can see that being a lot offun.
A lot of fun.
That is really neat well, it'sinteresting.
Caz (23:02):
Okay, you can do the trifecta of audio.
Let's see, she's got the giggle.
Let's go back into that mode,shall we?
There we go, and we're goingback into audio.
And now you've got threedimensions.
Liz (23:20):
We had the three dimensions and zappy giggles oh lord, as I
said, my, my cackle is perfectfor that.
Oh goodness, oh yeah, I'll seeagain.
Now I'm picturing this with mymy personal heavy metal
preference, with the double kickpedal music in the background,
(23:40):
with very, very heavy drumming.
Very, very heavy humming Wellyes, yes, and some high-pitched
screaming afterwards yeah, Ithink so.
That is so cool.
That does not even begin tocover it, but that is really
cool.
(24:00):
It's different no, it really is,it's.
I just cannot get over how.
How I mean I knew I feel like Ineed like and without sounding
insulting, because that's notthe point, I mean I knew it was,
I knew they were good products,that that bit's obvious.
But I didn't.
I clearly what I was kind ofpicturing was nowhere in the
(24:23):
ballpark of where your kit is.
Caz (24:26):
This stuff is amazing, um so would you say, easton is man
only.
No, you can see potential forthe females as well.
Liz (24:34):
I do and, um, I'm very keen to uh product test.
Should we say, um, I mean, Ican see?
I don't want to alienateanybody by saying it, but I
think there can possibly be alevel of maybe some women are a
(24:56):
little put off by too muchtechnology?
I don't, I don't know.
I mean maybe, maybe I mean putoff might be the wrong word, but
might think that maybe theassumption on shape or the whole
, you know, cables and otherbits, all that that's a guy
thing, isn't it?
And it's really, really not.
The only things you need to beable to play with these are body
(25:16):
parts and nerves.
Caz (25:19):
Yep.
Liz (25:20):
That would be the.
Caz (25:22):
You can play with them, with your partners as well,
although the suggestion I wouldhave, if you are going to play
with a partner, is play with ityourself.
First, find out what you likeand then relay that information
to your partner, because it hasbeen known that a couple have
purchased an item and the firsttime they've gone to use it
we've then been contacted to saythat's I need to send it back
because they've basically wiredtheir partner up, whacked it up
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to 100, pressed the button andthe poor partner is clinging
onto the ceiling in a not verynice way.
You want to be on the ceilingin a nice way, not a very nice
way.
Liz (25:56):
You kind of want to work up to the ceiling, not up.
Caz (26:01):
Exactly, and you said about being techie.
We do have the 2B, which is ourtop-end, junet, which has got
multiple channels, it's got LCDdisplay.
It is very techie.
But from a female perspective,the Pebble and the Helix, in my
honest opinion, are easier andbetter to use.
Liz (26:17):
And it also depends on your level of play as well.
I mean, if you're looking forsomething to play with yourself
with, or play for you and yourpartner to play with, then yeah,
you might not necessarily wanta whole LCD screen and to be
conducting an entire symphony,or that might entirely be your
kind of thing.
I mean, you're not excludingwhichever way you go with it,
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but it's like you said, there'sdifferent, different levels,
right up to full-on dom andsymphony, orchestra level of
readouts oh, you want spike.
Caz (26:52):
This is fascinated by spikey's.
I mean, I like spikies anyway,but zappy spikies I'm very
intrigued by zappy spikies I'mzappy spikies never tried zappy
spikies, I've only tried spikyspikies well, zappy spike is
what can again be connected toyour control box in a continuous
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mode because needs constantflow.
A little bit of gel,water-based lube on the skin
just running over the skin, andthen you get spiky, spiky, zappy
, zappy, zappy, zappy, spiky,spiky very intrigued by zappy
spiky because I like spiky.
Well, I very much like spiky yesokay, so take the spikies away
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I hope I haven't bored you totears.
Talking about all these is lord, no good.
Have I given you some insight?
Liz (27:44):
yes, ma'am, very much so it's, it's.
I'm not my well.
My horizons are pretty damnbroad to begin with, but that's
been very eye-opening.
I am very intrigued now.
Caz (27:57):
You're very intrigued, so is it something you'd like to
try?
Yes, now, would you like tocome back in a couple of weeks
and tell us what you thought?
Liz (28:06):
Absolutely.
Caz (28:08):
Fabulous.
So, guys, you will be seeing Lizagain.
As you can tell from the video,she's really enjoyed what she's
felt in her hand, so it'll beinteresting to see once she's
had enjoyed what she's felt inher hand.
So it'll be interesting to seeonce she's had some time and
learn what she thinks of it andwe can do more about Easton for
women.
Thank you so much, liz, forcoming on today.
Thank you, it's been such funchatting with you and talking
about Easton and everything kink.
It's been really good fun and Ilook forward to talking to you
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some more in a couple weeks.
Hello everyone.
It's Wayne here from EastinSystems, and today we're going
to talk about somethingcompletely different.
We're not going to talk aboutboxes.
We're not going to talk aboutproduct.
We're going to talk about howto use the product, and we're
going to do it in a completelydifferent way.
We're going to talk about howto use the product from a female
perspective.
Now I've got myself twoglamorous assistants.
We have Bones, who you'vepossibly met before, and we have
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a very great friend, liz, whohas never used Eastin before but
is willing to try.
So this is going to be a greatopportunity to introduce Eastin
from a female perspective.
But there is a problem.
Liz (00:33):
Yeah, there is.
You're not a woman.
Wayne (00:37):
No, not am I, oops, but I have a solution.
Caz (00:42):
Surprise, hi Hi, I am a woman.
Surprise, hi Hi, I am a woman.
You are, indeed.
I'm the wifey and also a verygood friend of yours, isn't she?
Yes, we are, and we're going totalk about all things Eastim,
and I'm going to let you seewhat it feels like.
Hi, it's Kaz, aka the wifeyfrom Eastim Systems, and I've
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been joined today by Liz.
Would you like to introduceyourself a bit more?
Liz (01:10):
Hi, my name's Liz.
I am a kinky female there yougo.
Caz (01:15):
A kinky female.
How's that?
How long have you classedyourself as being a kinky female
, for I would say a little over20 years.
Liz (01:24):
I reckon Sort of like pretty much from early
encounters.
I mean, you know, teenagersfooling around and just finding
other things more appealing, Iguess, which is great now
because so many things are somuch more acceptable now.
I remember I was talking aboutthis with somebody recently that
(01:45):
when I you know, way back whenI was in school and nu metal was
a brand new thing in highschool and Slipknot first came
out and their drummer and hismask, that game I was about 16
years old.
That made me think lots andlots of things about the long
hair and the mask and keepingthe mask on.
And now people are like, ohyeah, masks, it's a whole thing.
(02:09):
But 16, 17, 18 years old, itwas not a thing then and it sort
of went from things like thatto liking being restrained or a
little bit of breath, play andthings and not really knowing
what it was then until probablyby the time I was about 20 and
got involved with other morelike-minded people and everybody
(02:30):
has that pilgrimage to torturegarden and things like that the
scene has changed.
Caz (02:34):
It's become a big one.
So during all yourexperimentation, have you ever
played your electro play oranything?
Liz (02:41):
yes, not as much as I would like to.
I again, it was probably about20 years ago now when I first
even heard of like violet wandsand then fell down that rabbit
hole of the fact that it was avictorian thing as well and
being thoroughly interested bythat side of things and the the
historic and the antique and thezappy zappy play.
(03:03):
But certainly back then it waslike you either bought an
antique thing or spent five orsix hundred pounds on what was
around at the time, so that wasnot really something that 20
year old me could do.
And then, certainly later on,as I've got back into the scene,
I do have a few external clipon things.
(03:23):
I got a?
Um, I do have a few externalclip-on things.
I do have a violet wand.
I'm still holding out for anantique one because I just think
they look really cool.
I'm not sure I'd risk using it,but they look really cool in
the box.
Caz (03:34):
They are very showy-offy.
Have you ever actually tried toease them?
I have not.
Have you ever used anythinglike a TENS machine or used it
on a person?
Liz (03:44):
use them on people and I've used them on me for both uses.
Actually the actual ow.
This really hurts andapparently this helps outlook as
well as the oh okay.
Caz (03:56):
So easter is, you know, isn't just for men one of the
conceptions out there.
A lot of people think, oh yeah,easter it's just a man's thing
and it's designed more for malegenital.
But actually ladies can playwith it.
I'm going to give you anelectric child and I want you to
close your eyes and I want youto imagine.
It's somewhere more interesting.
We can't do full demonstrationson here and I'll talk through
(04:19):
the sensation with you and Iwill talk about how it can be
used and what other placeseastern for women can be used
safety checks.
Wayne (04:25):
Please do not play with any eastern equipment if you are
pregnant, have a heartcondition, suffer from epilepsy
or have any form of electronicimplant so this is an ideal
vaginal probe for lady.
Caz (04:38):
In fact you've got two contact points, top and bottom,
and you have this lovely flange,flangey around the edge here
which on some ladies can hit thelabia and on some ladies in the
right position does hit theelusive clitoris, and it's
called a flange electrode.
It is bipolar, an idealbeginner one really.
There are some out on themarket, some white electrodes
(04:58):
with small like contacts side byside where the sensation was
sort of like a round aroundsensation.
But this one, the sensation isgenerally top to bottom nope,
nope, okie, dokie.
Liz (05:08):
Right, if you want to hold that in your hand I mean, just
even before you do, I would saywith I keep keep doing this, but
just just, the quality is sosmooth that looks really
obviously as you said internally, but also that looks like just
the right kind of size and assmooth and that to hold on your
(05:31):
clit as well as a direct youcould bounce off the surface.
Caz (05:35):
You could hold it on your clit, but what will happen is,
because you've only got onecontact on your clit, you might
not feel the sensation as much.
You do need to make sure bothcontacts are thing.
I will get onto electro oneswhich you can use on your clit
as much.
You do need to make sure bothcontacts are thing.
I will get onto electro oneswhich you can use on your clear
to look better.
So you just need to hold it inone hand, please, and touch both
contacts top and bottom.
We have here our helix controlbooks.
(05:55):
This is the regeneration ofwhat was our original series,
one easy to use.
We've got power setting, feel,which controls how spiky or soft
what you feel be, and speed,which works with the pulsing
modes.
I'm going to switch it on andlet me know when you can feel
anything.
I would actually say close youreyes and just imagine this is
somewhere else.
It's quite prickly at themoment, isn't it?
(06:17):
Let's soften those spikes out alittle bit and of course, you
can make it pulsar stuff.
There's definitely food forthought going on there.
Is it how you thought your film?
Liz (06:28):
no, no, I confess I did not know that.
When did you put it?
Smooth out the flow?
I didn't realize you couldadjust.
I figured it's because if Iturn it that way, it's quite
prickly yeah if I turn it thatway I suppose the science in
there somewhere is like thewaves are closer together than
further apart.
Caz (06:47):
They're closer together than further apart.
Liz (06:49):
But literally that I mean I , in my ignorance, previous
experience of just having thingsthat are it's stronger or it's
you know, the intensity iseither higher or lower and
that's it.
There's not a you can't messwith.
I'm going to say smoother thespiky.
Now that's going to be thephrase.
Now that's fine, smoother thespiky, but also that being able
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to mess with the different pulseand things like that.
That is curious to know whatthe other settings are.
Caz (07:20):
Okay, so what I'll do?
I'll give that to you, I'll putit back on spiky.
I'll let you have a little play.
So that's your power.
Yeah, that's your spiky andsmooth and that's your pulsing.
And then, if you want to changethe mode, you press that button
there and it'll change to adifferent setting.
Okay, I'll let you have a playnow.
What liz is playing with is ourelectro helix, which is an ideal
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beginner's unit and it's idealfor ladies as a start-out point.
It's easy to use, you have abit more control.
It can be used internally orexternally.
So what this is holding in thehand at the moment is a probe
that's been used internally, butyou can actually put sticky
pads.
You can put sticky pads eitherside of your labia lips, so that
way you're firm, pulsing, butthen go across the labia.
(08:03):
Okay, so it's quite aninteresting sensation.
So it's got various modes andsettings, and then with fire
mode.
Liz (08:13):
You'll feel nothing until you press that button.
So it's not fire button, it'sfire.
Caz (08:21):
Right, okay, it's an ultimate fire button.
Yes, that's nice.
Her face is ill.
Liz (08:32):
I think she's enjoying this .
I'm torn between this is reallypleasant and also feeling like
I'm doing a review here ofliterally just the consistency
to it, of the speed and thesmooth to spiky, etc.
Caz (08:48):
I cannot get over from a lady's point of view, that
internally you play around withthe senses.
Once you get that right settingyou can sort of wiggle the
electrodes around a little bit.
Sometimes you can get yourg-spot pads.
You can put them by yourclitoris.
Once you get the right settingsit can be really, really nice.
Liz (09:03):
But that right, there is a huge difference, for, just from
my perspective of what you guysdo, because it seems like a lot
of the time and I could be wrong, I apologise if I am, but it
seems like a lot of the timetoys are designed by men for
women and they've never owned avagina in their life.
Some of them, I wonder ifthey've even seen one, but
that's a separate story.
(09:23):
But literally, with a lot oflike with vibrators, a lot of
them, you get like slow to fastor medley, yeah, and who the
hell likes the medley button?
I'm not anybody who likes themedley button, where it's just,
we're going to just startgetting you somewhere.
They're going to switch to thissetting, that setting, that one
back again, and there's noconsistency to it.
So, literally, even on the milksetting, yeah, where it is
(09:46):
doing different things, there'sstill a rhythm to it.
Yeah, rather than, like I said,it's sort of annoys me about
some toys.
It's like, just, you know,welcome to Medley's Greatest
Hits.
Now, I might regret this now,but we're going to.
We're going to Going to try youon the fire button.
Photon torpedoes, number twoOkay, Photon torpedoes number
(10:08):
two.
Caz (10:08):
Okay, are you ready for this?
Yes, ma'am, so that's what thatwill be.
That's what we call the naughtybutton, fight button.
So please can I have some more?
Okay, she's enjoying this waytoo much.
Liz (10:28):
I can leave no no, no, no, of course not.
Caz (10:32):
I think it's it's, it's because that, that's all.
That that binds me is almostlike the post.
What did it feel like?
Liz (10:38):
oh yeah so it's not just for men no, it's really not but
also as a, as someone who isvery much into kink in their
personal life, as well as beinga dom as well.
I can see both sides of it forbeing very entertaining for
(10:59):
myself and and entertaining inanother way, of causing complete
torture for other people, whichis what I find entertaining you
know you're asking about on theclitoris.
Yes, ma'am.
Caz (11:10):
With the electro ones, obviously because you've got the
wider space in here, becauseyou've got the insulator
slightly closer together, aslightly smaller, close letter.
This one can actually be usedexternally as well, because you
can.
You know, you do have avibrator, you can rub it over
your external genitals, but thatyou can actually use on the
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clitoris quite nicely.
I mean, this one's inserted,you can move it around and again
you can get your g-spot.
I am very sensitive right atthe very top around the cervical
area.
So some for me that was a bittoo intense, but for some other
ladies it's quite nice.
So this is quite nice to splitwith.
It's become my new best friend.
And then we go on to the otherfun fun things as well.
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Because I mentioned sticky pads.
Sticky pads for ladies can bequite interesting.
If you set up your labia, youcan put a pad here and pad there
and you can put the clientacross, you can put it on, so
your clitoris some people putseem to put a pad on their fine,
a pad on their clitoris, to putit up that way.
Don't ask me why, but I haveseen people saying that's what
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they do and they can be goodtrying, and you can also put a
pad either side of one nipple,but not one pad on one or on the
other, because you're going tocrush your chest with piercings.
If you want to be really cruelwith piercings, you can put the
pads on the piercings and itmakes them a little bit more
intense depending on where thepiercings are.
Liz (12:33):
Hey Macarena.
Caz (12:37):
One thing with piercings is we don't recommend that you use
them as a contact until atleast six months after they have
been done, because it takestime for the body to heal.
There are other electrodes thatcan be electrified for a female
it just looks like you know,made by nasa other electrodes
(13:00):
that can be used internally.
Obviously you've got the ones,you've got the flanges, you've
got a whole range of alldifferent ones, all different
shapes and sizes.
Liz (13:08):
I'm gonna I keep talking about the quality of the
machining and I'm over here likeit's so smooth, but it's it's
so smooth.
Caz (13:18):
What do you think of that one, this one on this one, if
you notice that the next is sortof based on top, so you only
insert it up to there, whereasthis one, from a female
perspective, you can actuallyinsert it to there, so you then
have that internal, thatinternal, that external.
I designed that one, I just Icame up with that design mainly
because a lot of what we weredoing from a female, from this,
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was me looking at the electrodesfrom a female point of view.
The top of the bottom for mewas like, yeah, that's a great
idea, but it was just needingsomething else.
That's something more that cango that little bit further.
In this one does sometimes, atleast on me personally will sit
outside my g spot, so then itpulls the kind of customer g
spots.
So that's quite nice, and Ijust wanted something that's
(14:00):
just a bit more curvy, a bitmore feminine looking, and it
had that.
Hence why it's got the red neckas well, because I wanted to be
sort of slightly more femininelooking, although it can be used
by men and men do use them andit just gives you that option to
go that little bit further or,as you've mentioned that little
bit shallower, depending on howyou are down there really yeah,
(14:21):
and it very much has that kindof love, egg stroke, kegel
weight shape to it as well andthen we get onto the egg.
This is the diddy egg.
That one, again, you can popright up inside.
It can certainly get yourg-spot, and again you've got the
closer connection and you canagain use that on your clitoris
as well.
And how long's the cable?
Liz (14:42):
the cable is a meter and a half long up through the back of
your jeans into your hand.
Yep, yep, I just got.
Ideas are going to showWireless model coming soon.
Caz (14:51):
We do actually have a remote control system whereby
you could, whereby somebodycould, be wired up to an
electrode and then it can becontrolled from a distance.
We do actually have a remotecontrol system.
You don't necessarily have tobe in control yourself.
How am I going to touch thisthing?
You are going to plug it in andlet me touch it.
Let's have a shiny shiny.
Can I have the people please?
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So we're now going to go up alevel, yes, ma'am, to the
intermediate box.
Now this is the electrode level.
So that one, the helix.
I showed you that one.
You know you can have oneelectrode in, so you can have an
internal decisions decisionswith this one, the pebble,
you've got two outputs, twocontrols so you can have
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different level settings, andthis one's got nine modes.
I'm gonna switch this one andthis one's got in it one of my
favorite modes.
It's just got to be amicrophone does it talk to me as
well?
Liz (15:45):
I mean, do I not need men ever again?
Caz (15:50):
I don't know, depends.
Do you want to talk to me or doyou want to talk dirty with me?
Are you going to be naughty?
And because sound can soundfairies, you can actually
stimulate some music.
Choose copyright, you can'tplay any music, but you can
actually use.
Liz (16:06):
That's the sexual equivalent of the flower on top
of the TV the dancing flower.
Caz (16:20):
Imagine having that in your local club.
You just said you've just beento a really fun place.
There's probably no doubt hadmusic.
Liz (16:27):
It's a fantastic place with all my kind of heavy metal
going.
So, yeah, imagine heavy metalcoming through that, all that
nice bassy metal noisy I have afew playlists I'm just talking
about.
There we go.
I'm turning myself on.
Caz (16:43):
Come closer oh dear oh god, just my cackle is doing good
things Okay.
We actually tested the audio,crazy fuck.
Liz (16:56):
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Yep, yep, yep, I can see thatworking.
Yep, don't, because you do itlike that.
Now I'm hearing the littleYagala people for copyright
purposes, for ba-ba-ba means alot to me anyway.
Yep and um, my whole life has asoundtrack in all things, and
(17:23):
having sex without music on isjust why.
Am I bothering in my brainanyway, unless you're outside,
in which case sorry, sorry, I'mout of stealth, but literally
every time I laugh.
This is fun.
I have different playlists on myphone because for me personally
, when I'm, even when I'mplaying with myself, let alone
(17:46):
playing with other people, I dolike having music on.
That heightens it for me.
But again, if I'm with apartner, from from personal
perspective, one of the things Ilove to do is have I actually I
have a um, a bluetooth maskthat's got built-in earphones in
(18:07):
the actual mask or mask andregular earphones, whichever,
but so I can't see I got musicin my ears so that I have
different playlists that appealto that side of me.
And if we can do that and havemy hands tied up too, so that I
have different playlists thatappeal to that side of me, and
if we can do that and have myhands tied up too, so that I
can't interfere.
I'm not expected to do anything.
I can just feel what'soccurring and listen to the
music.
Very happy times.
Caz (18:28):
I quite like to spank and cane to music, need a rhythm.
So you have the electrodeinserted and then I can hear the
music with headphones and I canspank and cane, especially on
one on the A-Box, which is anaudio driven box, but you can
actually plug the, the audiosource, into the box and you can
actually put a splitter and putheadphones in.
So I can then spank and cane intime to music and then we feel
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the sensation at the same timemakes playing them actually in a
really good game.
Going back to playing withsounds and microphones and
ambient music and what you canfeel.
There is actually a funny storyto go alongside that, which was
I had my partner suspended in aleather strapped bondage cage at
an event and it happened to betheir birthday and they were
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wired up to an east end on audiowith the microphone mode on and
I got the whole club to singhappy birthday to them and give
them free chairs.
And to this day I think theyhaven't yet forgiven me.
But it was great fun for melistening to the video because
it had to be sung at such a niceloud tone more than once and it
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was great fun.
So yes, I think Liz likes theaudio side of things, so again
also with the music audio sideof things.
It isn't just for men.
Liz (19:44):
No, that's just, you just need.
I was about to say you justneed ears, but you don't.
No, because you can feel it.
No, I hadn't even thought aboutthat for a second, because of
course I'm thinking obviouslyit's reacting to my voice and if
you put music to it it wouldpick up that and in rhythm to
that.
But yeah, just yeah, hadn'teven thought about it from that
(20:11):
side of things too back after abrief interlude, a few moments
later.
Caz (20:17):
So, liz, you've tried the Helix, you've tried the Pebble,
you've tried the Mose, you'vetried the Audio.
What if I was to say you canactually take it up even further
, in that all the otherelectrodes you've been holding
so far you've only had twopoints of contact.
What if I said you could havean electrode that's got three
points of contact?
Continue, we have what we callthe triple.
(20:44):
Okay, and this is a three pointof contact electrodes.
You've got one, two, three.
So you can't be as one, two,one, two, one, two, three, one,
two, because you've got threeconnectors in the bottom.
So let's try the triple, let'stry the triple.
I'm gonna put you in.
Liz (20:58):
You quite like to melt in here.
It was interesting.
Caz (21:02):
Yes, it's a good look.
You should start to feelsomething yep you can have part.
Liz (21:08):
Well, some parts more intense than others that's
completely the opposite to theother way now, because it's it's
the end that is really strongon this now there's a totally
different sensation.
Caz (21:17):
Yeah, and then for something a bit more interesting
, if I go into split, you shouldhave two bits that are
continuous and the third bitshould be pulsing slightly,
slightly is not the word for it,but yeah.
Liz (21:34):
That was an emphatic pulse.
Caz (21:36):
So it is a slightly different sensation, it is so
which is a slightly differentsensation.
Liz (21:39):
It is so which is the consistent one, the consistent
one on the output.
Caz (21:44):
So that's your consistence.
Level A is consistent.
Okay, that's the pulsing andthen the bit.
Get that one up a bit and youcan adjust it to make it pulse
faster with the adjust.
Liz (21:55):
Hold mixing desk here.
Oh, that's fine, but I couldsee talk about completely
customizable.
You could play around with thatfor a long, long time and
you're not limited to justhaving insertables.
Caz (22:12):
You can have insert and a pad.
Liz (22:15):
I like that.
That is the words have left me.
She's been left speechless.
Caz (22:21):
Yeah, that doesn't happen.
Liz (22:24):
I've actually left you speechless Also, you know,
trying to.
Caz (22:27):
Visualise it.
Liz (22:28):
I'm trying to keep the language above the watershed
level because we can put somebeeps in.
Well, you need a lot of themwith me normally, so I'm trying
to be nice, but that beeps in.
Wow, you need a lot of themwith me normally, so I'm trying
to be nice, but that oh, we weresaying before about how medley
version on things can be reallyannoying.
This is, this is the opposite.
So you've got that consistentbackground teasing and then
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those extra spikes to add adifferent layer to it.
That is.
I can see that being a lot offun.
A lot of fun.
That is really neat well, it'sinteresting.
Caz (23:02):
Okay, you can do the trifecta of audio.
Let's see, she's got the giggle.
Let's go back into that mode,shall we?
There we go, and we're goingback into audio.
And now you've got threedimensions.
Liz (23:20):
We had the three dimensions and zappy giggles oh lord, as I
said, my, my cackle is perfectfor that.
Oh goodness, oh yeah, I'll seeagain.
Now I'm picturing this with mymy personal heavy metal
preference, with the double kickpedal music in the background,
(23:40):
with very, very heavy drumming.
Very, very heavy humming Wellyes, yes, and some high-pitched
screaming afterwards yeah, Ithink so.
That is so cool.
That does not even begin tocover it, but that is really
cool.
(24:00):
It's different no, it really is,it's.
I just cannot get over how.
How I mean I knew I feel like Ineed like and without sounding
insulting, because that's notthe point, I mean I knew it was,
I knew they were good products,that that bit's obvious.
But I didn't.
I clearly what I was kind ofpicturing was nowhere in the
(24:23):
ballpark of where your kit is.
Caz (24:26):
This stuff is amazing, um so would you say, easton is man
only.
No, you can see potential forthe females as well.
Liz (24:34):
I do and, um, I'm very keen to uh product test.
Should we say, um, I mean, Ican see?
I don't want to alienateanybody by saying it, but I
think there can possibly be alevel of maybe some women are a
(24:56):
little put off by too muchtechnology?
I don't, I don't know.
I mean maybe, maybe I mean putoff might be the wrong word, but
might think that maybe theassumption on shape or the whole
, you know, cables and otherbits, all that that's a guy
thing, isn't it?
And it's really, really not.
The only things you need to beable to play with these are body
(25:16):
parts and nerves.
Caz (25:19):
Yep.
Liz (25:20):
That would be the.
Caz (25:22):
You can play with them, with your partners as well,
although the suggestion I wouldhave, if you are going to play
with a partner, is play with ityourself.
First, find out what you likeand then relay that information
to your partner, because it hasbeen known that a couple have
purchased an item and the firsttime they've gone to use it
we've then been contacted to saythat's I need to send it back
because they've basically wiredtheir partner up, whacked it up
(25:45):
to 100, pressed the button andthe poor partner is clinging
onto the ceiling in a not verynice way.
You want to be on the ceilingin a nice way, not a very nice
way.
Liz (25:56):
You kind of want to work up to the ceiling, not up.
Caz (26:01):
Exactly, and you said about being techie.
We do have the 2B, which is ourtop-end, junet, which has got
multiple channels, it's got LCDdisplay.
It is very techie.
But from a female perspective,the Pebble and the Helix, in my
honest opinion, are easier andbetter to use.
Liz (26:17):
And it also depends on your level of play as well.
I mean, if you're looking forsomething to play with yourself
with, or play for you and yourpartner to play with, then yeah,
you might not necessarily wanta whole LCD screen and to be
conducting an entire symphony,or that might entirely be your
kind of thing.
I mean, you're not excludingwhichever way you go with it,
(26:39):
but it's like you said, there'sdifferent, different levels,
right up to full-on dom andsymphony, orchestra level of
readouts oh, you want spike.
Caz (26:52):
This is fascinated by spikey's.
I mean, I like spikies anyway,but zappy spikies I'm very
intrigued by zappy spikies I'mzappy spikies never tried zappy
spikies, I've only tried spikyspikies well, zappy spike is
what can again be connected toyour control box in a continuous
(27:13):
mode because needs constantflow.
A little bit of gel,water-based lube on the skin
just running over the skin, andthen you get spiky, spiky, zappy
, zappy, zappy, zappy, spiky,spiky very intrigued by zappy
spiky because I like spiky.
Well, I very much like spiky yesokay, so take the spikies away
(27:38):
I hope I haven't bored you totears.
Talking about all these is lord, no good.
Have I given you some insight?
Liz (27:44):
yes, ma'am, very much so it's, it's.
I'm not my well.
My horizons are pretty damnbroad to begin with, but that's
been very eye-opening.
I am very intrigued now.
Caz (27:57):
You're very intrigued, so is it something you'd like to
try?
Yes, now, would you like tocome back in a couple of weeks
and tell us what you thought?
Liz (28:06):
Absolutely.
Caz (28:08):
Fabulous.
So, guys, you will be seeing Lizagain.
As you can tell from the video,she's really enjoyed what she's
felt in her hand, so it'll beinteresting to see once she's
had enjoyed what she's felt inher hand.
So it'll be interesting to seeonce she's had some time and
learn what she thinks of it andwe can do more about Easton for
women.
Thank you so much, liz, forcoming on today.
Thank you, it's been such funchatting with you and talking
about Easton and everything kink.
It's been really good fun and Ilook forward to talking to you
(28:30):
some more in a couple weeks.
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