October 4, 2024 • 41 mins
Imagine navigating the bustling halls of Eurofame in Hanover, where excitement and challenges collide as we showcase E-Stim Systems to Europe’s finest stockists. Our journey included the thrill of setting up an eye-catching trade show display, mingling with potential partners, and overcoming production hiccups from new machinery. Join us on this adventure as we not only celebrate our 20th anniversary but also drop tantalizing hints about an upcoming product that promises to uphold our legacy of quality and innovation.
Peek behind the curtains of our creative studio setup, where technology meets artistry, featuring our switch to Blackmagic cameras. Special guest Caz—or as we like to call her, Wifey—joins the conversation, sharing her integral role in our company. With stories of quirky product testing escapades and the unexpected popularity of items like the Decimator, we explore the humorous and sometimes unpredictable world of e-stim product development.
Our episode wraps up with gratitude for our vibrant community and a shoutout to our friends in the industry. As we prepare for future trade shows in Amsterdam, Barcelona, and beyond, we reflect on the joys and challenges of innovation. With a nod to safety and optimism, we look to the future, excited to continue this journey with all of you. Tune in for a mix of laughter, insights, and the shared passion that keeps E-Stim Systems at the heart of a thrilling industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody.
It's Wayne here from eStimSystems and this is the third
time that I am attempting to golive and hopefully everything is
working, because I've done theusual trick 15 seconds before I
go live I start to press buttons.
Hopefully you can all hear me.
We have literally just comeback from a show in Germany when
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when I say literally, weactually came back Friday.
The van came back this morningbecause we had to drive all the
kit over and it's been a bit ofa rushing around trying to get
things back into storage etc.
But it's been a veryinteresting week.
We were at Eurofame in Hanover,which is a business to business
show, so it's not your classicshow, so it's a trade show.
(00:45):
Hopefully you've seen a coupleof the videos that we posted
about it, particularly the setup, which wasn't too bad.
Actually, we've got set upquite refined.
When we do shows, we literallyjust rock up with a van, unload
the crates and then spend threehours polishing everything
because the cabinets need to bepolished, they need to be nice
and clean, and then we had threedays of the show and then we
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have to do everything in reverseas well as jumping on aircraft
to try and get back, and thereis actually a plane that comes
back from Hanover, which wejokingly call the Hanover
Express, because it has everyonein the UK who's been to Hanover
.
We all get on the same planeand it's quite good fun and it
was a very good show for us.
It was great to see lots ofpeople.
It was great to see lots ofpeople who are current stockists
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and also we've picked up a fewpeople who hopefully fingers
crossed will become newstockists.
So we're moving towards havingmore stores in Europe.
One thing that allows is you togo to your local store and
hopefully purchase our kit frompeople you already know.
So it gives us a bit extrathere, not just selling
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everything on the internet.
You can still buy directly fromus on the internet, but we like
to have stores dotted aroundEurope and in the US, but at the
moment we're talking aboutEurope.
So watch this space.
There are going to be a few newbits and pieces appearing.
Bits and pieces appearing yeah,one slight little thing that
went slightly wrong.
If you'd watched the last livestream, you might know that we
(02:14):
were putting some new machineryinto the workshops.
Now eSTIM Systems.
We build our own products inour own workshops.
The problem is, after a whileyou start to look and go I need
to have more production capacity, I need to have new machines
that do things faster and better, more facilities.
And then you have to get thosemachines in and, yes, it was a
bit of a squeeze and then yourealize that the machine is
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allegedly the same as the oneyou had before, but it isn't.
So you then have to start goingthrough code recoding for new
machines and and there's been afew delays, which is why some of
our shipments have been alittle bit delayed, only by a
couple of days.
One of those delays wasmanufacture of a product which
we were planning to launch atEurofame, and we do have a
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policy that we do not launchanything unless we actually have
stock of something on theshelves, and we couldn't launch
it because we didn't have anystock of it.
So those of you who are sittingthere going, what's the new
thing?
What's the new thing?
What's the new thing?
I'm not going to tell youbecause we haven't launched it
yet, really Sorry.
The good news is it's imminent,but I'm not telling you what it
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is.
And I'm not telling you what itis and I'm not going to be too
precise on when it is, but Ithink the next live stream we
will actually be showing it toyou and hopefully by then it
will be available.
But it's purely and simply downto the fact that everything
else has been so popular.
We've been maxed out.
Trying to get the new machinesin and running and then get
stock out to you and bringinganything new in.
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it's a bit of a nightmare and wego to shows and then because I
out to you and bringing anythingnew in, it's a bit of a
nightmare and we go to shows.
And then, because I've got abit of downtime, I then come up
with my little black book andcome up with even more designs.
So we've got a packed list ofthings to do and a packed list
of new ideas coming up.
Unfortunately, the new stuffdidn't appear, which is a bit of
a shame, but it is coming.
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Anyway, the other thing thatwe've missed mentioning is the
fact that it's actually ourbirthday.
We have been around for 20years 20 years doing Eastim,
when we thought we might sell afew boxes when we started, and
20 years later, we are nowmaking quite a few boxes and
it's been fun and it's been downto people like you who sit here
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listening to me driveling onabout nothing.
Now, one of the things we didpromise on the last live stream
we're going to do a little bitof a backstage element here, so
we're going to explain what wehave in the studio.
I know stunt cock and joanneare sitting there with their
notepads out going right.
We're going to copy that.
We're going to use that one andthat one.
So the first thing we're goingto talk about is the fact that I
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am sitting here talking to acamera which is mounted on a
tripod, not really in front ofme.
Beside that is something calledthe BTS camera.
Now, the BTS camera is juststuck off the side.
It is actually a Blackmagic 4Kwith a very tiny little lens and
that gives you a bit of behindthe scenes view, but it doesn't
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give you as much view as youpossibly like.
You can actually see a biglight here that's lighting me
from this side, and you can justabout see a camera over there
which is one of my b camerasthere.
We are hello camera there.
Now, this camera is a littlebit special because it's mounted
on a remote control, so I canactually do weird, wonderful
(05:30):
things with it.
There's the two main ones andthere's the other side one.
Incidentally, we do.
Actually, if I go up, we'reactually in an office.
This is normally an office, asyou can see from the lovely lime
walls.
If I now go up, you'll see acamera up there and a microphone
.
Now, one thing I'm reallydisappointed in we do not have a
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piece of wood holding ourlights up or holding our
microphones up, and I'm reallydisappointed that I think,
joanne and Stuntcock, you'veexceeded yourself because you
have pieces of wood.
We have that and I know itlooks a complete mess.
It's basically a lighting standwith a couple of bars across
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and another lighting stand, andthat's how we hold two
microphones up and then we'vegot an overhead camera.
This is all controlled by amagical box of tricks which, for
youtubers and live streamers,these have been game changers,
these are black magic 8mswitchers.
This is the 8m switcher extreme.
I think it is eight channels,so I can have eight channels
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controlling.
Everything does audio as well.
Everything runs off hdmi andI'm also recording the stream
that goes onto a ssd drive.
And then I have a laptop butthat basically has some control
software on there and it alsohas something called bit focus
which allows me to createbuttons and things which control
this.
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Yes, there is a big bit at thetop that says did you press
record?
Because last time I did a videofrom this studio and we use
this studio to do our normalvideos of how we use products
and things like that I did a 20minute video and forgot to press
record.
I did exactly the same thing inGermany.
I did a walk around the showfor about 5-10 minutes, I forgot
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to press record.
I now put these little signseverywhere saying press record.
So, basically, this is anoffice with a bunch of cameras
set up and, yeah, you mightnotice in the background if I
zoom in, there is a bunch ofDisney toys.
Now, before anyone startscomplaining that we are doing
something strange and corruptingthe children no, we're not, but
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my guest happens to be a Disneyfan and we actually use this
studio to do live streaming forDisney podcasts and things.
What's the make of your cameras?
Okay, this gets a little bitcomplex.
The camera, the main camera, isa Canon C100 Mark II, I think.
So the one I'm currentlylooking at the moment is a Canon
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.
My background back in my darkand distant past was actually
press photography.
Don't ask me about what I didthen, but yeah, I used to be a
press photographer, so I tendedto go for Canon kit.
All my kit was Canon.
So I ended up with a Canon C100.
And that was the first camerawe bought.
The rest of them we started tomove over to Blackmagic.
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One of the reasons is they work.
The quality is outstanding,they work really well with the
kit that we use and they'rerelatively cheap, especially if
you're buying them secondhand,which is what I'm doing.
So we have a Blackmagic 4K, aBlackmagic 6K and a Blackmagic
4k, a Blackmagic 6k and aBlackmagic 6k Pro, and then
we've got my little personalcamera, which is a Canon M6,
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which is this one here andactually this one up here.
The one up in the height is aBlackmagic studio camera, which
actually is a little bit harderto use because we have to add in
extra bits of wiring.
So there's a SDI to HDMI boxsitting there and a few extra
wires.
Once you bought into a lenscollection, it just makes sense
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to stay with the same collection, and the simple answer is yes,
completely agree.
I used Nikon a couple of timeswhen I first started as a
photographer, but since thenI've always used Canon and we
have Canon lenses all over theplace.
The audio we run for aRodecaster Pro, which we
actually also use for doing someof our podcasts.
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You don't want to look at thefloor?
Cable management is notsomething I'm very good at, so
I've got to chop that up.
The benefits of having a studiomeans we can literally come in
here and in 20 minutes we'reready to shoot.
Come in here and in 20 minuteswe're ready to shoot.
When we shot some of our earlyvideos, it would take us three
or four hours to clear up enoughspace to actually create a
reasonable background and thenactually then record the video.
(09:54):
Now with the studio, you canliterally come in, shoot the
video, take it home on an ssdand do the edits at home.
I mean, I sometimes edit here,but it just gives you more, it's
more convenient and you'll findthat a lot of people who do
YouTube they move from nothaving a studio to at least
creating a tiny little space.
You'll notice also a couple ofour smaller videos.
(10:16):
When I say smaller videos, thesort of the shorts and the
vertical stuff just has a redbackground behind me and that's
they actually shot in the cornerof my bedroom with a tiny
little 4K webcam and me sort ofsitting there like this with a
couple of lights.
So you don't need to have largeamounts of kit to produce
videos.
It just makes it a bit easierand hopefully it works most of
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the time.
Couple of other bits we haveIKEA cabinets behind us.
I think virtually every homestudio in the world has ikea
cabinets.
We have a on-air sign which wasmankind and we also have a nice
little lumetri clock, whichI've just got working, so this
actually flashes up how manyfollowers, subscribers etc.
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We have on the various bits andpieces.
But anyway, that's the studio.
Now we're going to get on tothe guest.
Now, I admit I tried to getsomebody else.
I tried to get a guest that I'dbeen after for quite a while
and she wasn't available thisweek.
So I had to get someone elsewho actually is key to the
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company in so much that if itwasn't for this person, eastim
Systems wouldn't be doing whatthey do now and probably
wouldn't even started, because Iwould have just gone off and
found something else.
So I'm going to drag them in andI'm going to have to shift this
way because I need to createsome space it's a little one
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it's a little one it's a littleone, it's a little me it's a
little me, and so, ladies andgentlemen, I'd like to introduce
you to Kaz who, who's alsoknown as Wifey, because she does
actually happen to be the wife.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm also known as Voltiana.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And she's also known as Voltiana.
Oh look, we've got comments.
We've got comments, Cren, nosuch thing as to get too much
gadgets.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yes, there is Too many gadgets.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Cren doesn't make eye contact with servers, switches,
nas, ups, spare PC, guest, pcbackup NAS.
Great doesn't make eye contactwith servers, switches, nas, ups
, spare pc, guest pc, backup,nas tape drive.
We'll, at some point in timeI'll probably do a live stream
from the workshops and theoffice, because we do actually
have some servers that we nolonger use, which we used to use
in the office.
(12:32):
I got told they were too noisyand there is a tape drive in
there and there's several nazisand there's an awful lot of
networking kit that we no longeruse because we just don't use
it anymore.
So, yeah, you can never havetoo many gadgets, gadgets and
gizmos.
I have my buttons here and kazhas everything else I have a
sofa yeah, you have a sofa, youlike your sofa, so anyway, this
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is Wifey.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yes, I'm Wifey.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Wifey's been around for a while in terms of Eastim
Systems, because she sort ofappeared at roughly the same
point that Eastim Systemsappeared.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I just hope so.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Because we first met on your birthday actually,
wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, 20 years ago on my birthday.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That's scary.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's very scary.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, I've got some questions for her.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I didn't really tell her about this.
I just sort of said you'recoming on today, and she was
like no, so bear with me if Iwaffle.
Bear with you, I'll just cutyou off.
Incidentally, wifey also doesDisney podcasts and YouTube.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So we'll put the links up there and you can go
and hence all the disney stuffin the corner.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, we're the only e-stim company in the world that
has stitches dotted all overthe office just because you can
yeah right, you can never havetoo many stitches.
Anyways, one of the reasons Iactually brought cas on apart
from the fact that I want totalk to someone for the next 20
minutes or so was actually basedon a couple of comments that
were made at the Eurofame showand there are also comments that
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have been made overall, and alot of people seem to think that
e-stim is just for men.
It is a very masculine hobby.
Men tend to be much moreexternal in their sensations, so
sticking east in electrodesover ourselves is quite easy
until you start sticking thingsinside, and then it gets even
more interesting.
But a lot of people assume thateast in is male orientated and
(14:27):
the honest answer is it isn't,is it?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
nope, it certainly is not male orientated.
From a female perspective, itcan be quite nice Quite nice.
Yeah, just a little bit nice,hence the Mona which I happen to
name.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yes, do we have a Mona here?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yes, we do.
It's behind you, it's behind.
It's always worrying whensomeone says and my bobble.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
There's a Mona and there's a bobble.
There's your Mona.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's my Mona, one of my favourites.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, hopefully everyone can hear you.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Because, well, there's a name says it's a.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Mona.
Yeah, we did actually changethe name of the Mona, because
when we first created it it wasMona, as in the girl's name.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, it was.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Oh my beep beep, oh my beep, beep, beep, beep, beep,
god uh, yeah, it was that, butit was mona, as in a girl's name
.
And then a couple of storesactually said we can't sell it.
Why?
Well, because we can't sell agirl's name electrode in a gay
store.
Okay, so we changed name, soit's mona, as in moaning, and
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that's the history of the mona,and the mona is, I would say,
yeah, I think it is our most,it's our most popular electrode.
It's one of those depending onwhich day you look it's either
going to be this, or it's goingto be the mj or it's going to be
the flange, but generally themona is the most popular
electrode nice flange base so itdoesn't get stuffed in too far,
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and quite a nice separationbetween the head and the base,
so you get quite a nicesensation over a reasonable area
and it stimulates nice littlebits outside as well and it
stimulates nice little bitsoutside well, it depends how
graphic you want it to go umjoanne, it's my favorite
electrode.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So yeah, it's definitely joe, it's definitely
one of my favorites as well,that with a flange and a sticky
pad on tri-phase on a pebble yep, who's sitting there going?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
can I have a go now?
No, and then we've got the the,the bobble my infamous design.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I actually designed this one because I I was getting
bored of having all theelectrodes with the spacers
being at the bottom.
It's like that's great, butsometimes you want something a
little bit different.
So one night in my wisdom we'resitting talking about designs
and I came up with a design forthe bobble because I just wanted
something that went a littlebit further internally but also
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gave bipolar contact, inside aswell as outside.
And yeah, that's how the bobbledesign came up.
And also because of the shape,from a lady's point of view,
it's good for, dare I say, theladies' pelvic floor, because
when ladies get to a certain age, their pelvic floors become not
so pelvic.
And yeah, it's just a reallygood one for ladies and it is
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one of the favourite ones.
And of course, it had to have acoloured neck.
It wasn't a big standard boringblack, it had to be coloured as
well.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, we won't mention the fact that that red
plastic is probably the mostexpensive plastic on the planet.
It's like it's red.
And when you speak to theplastics manufacturers, they're
like we do black, but we wantred.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And they're like oh, okay, I did initially want
bright pink, but that was one ofthe cases of well, we can get
you one size, but they wouldgive you a piece of plastic that
was that wide to do something.
That's about that big.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, it was a bit of a waste.
It was a bit of a waste ofmaterials though.
Jo likes that and the largeflow.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
The large flow is okay, but I find it doesn't stay
in with me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Does it get a bit juicy?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I think that's the point where YouTube are now
going to chuck us into thenaughty corner Beep, beep, beep.
Naughty corner.
To the naughty corner.
Naughty corner, naughty step.
Sorry youtube, roy hat sorry,I'm late.
Well, roy, you're gonna have togo and stand in naughty corner.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I mean, joanne is already in there with I'm sure,
roy, that joanne's got somespikes waiting for you in the
corner do we have to mentionspikes?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I wanted to do a live stream with no mention of
spikes I want spikes, oh no whatis it?
Here's a question for you, forthose of you who've got partners
why have they got obsessionwith spikes?
Joanne has an obsession withspikes.
You've got an obsession withspikes.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I should have brought my spiky pinwheel.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm saying nothing.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And now he goes quiet .
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm going very, very quiet.
What's your favourite box?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Favourite box initially was a series one which
, well, that was the first onethat we helped.
I sort of helped you sort ofdevelop in a way, because you
had the basic idea and then wesort of added bits and pieces,
including that lovely firebutton.
You quite like the remotecontrol especially.
There is a story behind theremote control and I will
diverge this story of beingdressed like a bunny doing a
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range test.
So when we say our remote's gota range of 50 meters, trust me,
it is 50 meters.
How do I know that?
Because he had me hoppingacross a field dressed as a
bunny rabbit.
So, yes, that does work.
What's wrong with that?
And then the pebble, because Ido like some of the modes on the
Pebble and having the twooutputs and having a bit more
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control.
And, as I've mentioned, thePebble with a tri-phase is
definitely like, hmm, yeah, likethat.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I'm not mentioning the remote.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Or is it the A-Box, the one we sang?
Happy birthday to you with.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh dear, Are you going to tell that story now?
Oh dear, Are you going to tellthat story now?
All right, you can tell thestory of the A-Box I remember
developing the A-Box.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We had gone to an event with some of our little
boxes of fun and I had this onewired up to an A-Box and it
happened to be his birthday andhe had electrodes in interesting
locations and the whole roomsang happy birthday to him and
gave him three cheers ratherloudly and he felt every single
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one of them.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I did.
Joanne says she's getting thespikes ready.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Good, Can I have some in my direction please?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I'm not saying anything.
Testing is good, right, we lovetesting.
What about the lips?
What are you making for that?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
you making for that um, but the flow, the actually
for the lips, for the ladies,the flange electrodes, that
wider base does actually sit onthe lips quite nicely and
depending on how you position itit can sort of hit also that
exclusive little um.
Can I say the c word?
You can say what?
you like it has, it doesactually hit on some ladies.
It does say you hit the head ofthe clitoris.
So if it's in the rightlocation it's just right.
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But also from a lady's point ofview, two sticky pads outside
of the clitoris works reallywell.
Sticky pads combined with aninsertable.
That is quite a very nicesensation, especially if you've
got it on a wavy format and alsoa sticky pad.
There's one contact ontri-phase head of electrode in
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the front hole and then a headof electrode down the back on
tri-phase again.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
That is really nice, that just gets like okay,
someone's getting that.
I must say, one thing that alot of people ignore is sticky
pads.
Sticky pads are probably themost versatile electrode you can
get, especially because theytend to stick to virtually
anything.
I mean, if you've got a bit ofhair around, maybe trim it up
and shave it a little bit,because, yeah, they do stick and
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they will pull hells outpotentially.
We did have the infamous Imanaged to stick a sticky pad to
the cat.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It wasn't attached, I will point it out.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It wasn't attached to a box.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
The cat sort of sat down and we'd forgotten to put
the pads back onto a carriersheet and the cat sort of came
up for a cuddle.
And then the next day there's acat.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
There's a cat with a little pad and a little wire.
Yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But anyone who contacts the company by the
telephone, you'll either get oneof our colleagues, kay, or
you'll get myself.
Now I've had some veryinteresting conversations with
customers.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I'm not sure we need to publish these ones Over the
time.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm not going to go too graphic on some of the
conversations that we have had.
You do get the little man,little sorry gentleman, not a
little man, a gentleman phoningup, normally of the older
persuasion, and when theyrealize that they're talking to
a lady on the telephone, you doget the I wish to talk about and
(22:54):
they, yeah, they do gettongue-tied and it's's only when
I sort of put it out there theygo it's okay.
So you want to stimulate yourgenitals?
Yes, this is the box for you.
No, it won't hurt, yes, it willgive you pleasure, and it's oh.
Okay, then can I order please?
And then I do get the oddconversation where it does get
the yes, mistress, whatever yousay, mistress.
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Oh, yes, mistress conversationwhere it does get the yes,
mistress, whatever you saymistress, oh, yes, mistress, I
really like your mistress, oh,mistress say it again and it's
just like it's the point.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's the point when they turn around and say, would
you like me to put it in now,you start to go.
This is not only fans.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Maybe calls back later I don't know if, if Joe
ever has customers that sort ofsend graphic emails and that,
but I've had a few graphicconversations with people on the
phone and it does get a littlebit awkward sometimes yeah, I
think, at the end of the day,that's what we do for business,
so we're quite happy to talk topeople.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Sometimes the issue is actually they're they're in
their own offices and they don'treally want to say certain
words because other people mighthear, which is perfectly
understandable.
We're quite happy to workaround the questions in any way
people wish, or just send us anemail and be as graphic as you
like.
We have a number of customerswho send us emails with them
demonstrating how they use ourelectrodes there is still the
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picture of the decimator in use.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
We've actually had pictures of this in use.
Yes, it was interesting BecauseDanny asked how many of the big
ones we sell.
I did mention more than yourealised.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, when I get engineering going, we're making
more decimators.
It's like, okay, yeah, and thedecimator was something that we
made initially, actually as ajoke.
You go into stores, you go intostores and they have large
things.
Companies build larger versionsof what they do, just as
display pieces, and we did thatwith the decimator.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Unfortunately, people kept buying it and he was like
we'll just make some more then Iremember the first time he put
it on display erotica back whenerotica run, and this guy walked
past and went oh, and he walkedpast again.
I went, oh, and he walked pastagain, he went.
How?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
much.
We were like, um, um, I can'tremember, in fact I don't know
because I never really yeah,decided to sell it, but we gave
him a price and he found thatwas quite reasonable.
And yeah, that was the firstone.
And now there's probably quitea few professional dominatrix
out there who've got them intheir studios just to scare the
(25:24):
subs.
If you don't do as you're told,that is going up there and
there's a poor little subsitting there going no.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I'll do going.
Oh no, yes, yes, yes, whateveryou say, I'll do anything, just
not that.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Do you think the Mona is the best electrode for a
woman to start?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
with, I think, for a starting point for a woman.
Bear in mind, I initiallystarted with a little white
plastic.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That was the Veryprobe.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, little white plastic thing Veryprobe, and
that was the Veryprobe.
Yeah, little white plasticthing Veryprobe.
I don't think we've got one now.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I don't think the Veryprobes were about this big
and they were actually a medicalelectrode.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
A bit of history.
I actually was experimentingwith this before I met Wayne and
I had a TENS machine and alittle white plastic electrode.
And I just found the TENSmachine, just didn't have the
oomph.
So we created the series one youshould actually have a series
one over here, but we don't no,I think we have to get one out
of the archive, but yeah, I usedto have a little white
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electrode and then we came upwith the flange and that was a
nice starting point.
Behind you you have the flangewhich is the baby baby brother
of the mona or the baby sisterof the mona.
But it was nice, but for me itjust needed something just a
little bit bigger.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Pass me the remote.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Which is why we then went up for the Mona.
But an ideal beginner one forthe lady is Mr Flangey, your
hands keep moving.
There's my flange, because it'sgot that base at the bottom and
, as I've mentioned this bit,when it's inserted it does sit
quite snugly and it can hit theclitoris and it just gives you
(26:55):
that internal and external.
Yeah, when you're in the rightmodes, it feels like it's doing
that inside you, which can bequite fun as well.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's the flange.
That's the flangey.
My wheezy camera thing stoppedworking at that point has it
stopped working?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Is it whizzed?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I had an extra bit on my camera that would zoom in
and zoom out, but it's notworking.
Battery's gone flat.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
If anyone's watching this and wants a female
perspective on Easton, pleasedrop us a message or drop us a
line and I will happily gothrough where to start, and from
a couple's point of view.
Now, this is another area thatI get asked and I deal with on a
regular basis.
Is you get the the gentlemanfrom the couple email saying me
and my partner wants to startwhat's a good point for her to?
(27:39):
What should I get for her tofit?
To start with, we do do introkits, which are great fun, but
one thing I will say is, whenyou get your kit, please don't
tell her oh yes, you're gonnalove this, darling, pop it all
in and wank up the pot, ramp upthe pot, basically crank up the
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power to full output, becauseshe'll turn around and go not on
your and that's it.
You'll never play with it againshe'll be stuck to the ceiling
she'll be stuck to the ceilingand you'll be sleeping on the
sofa.
So my advice would be, if youare going to get this, to
introduce it to your partnerregardless male, female.
Let them have the box tothemselves and let them have a
(28:23):
little bit of me time todiscover what they do and don't
like, and then they can feedback to you.
That's okay on the say, for meon the Pebble.
Okay on the Pebble.
I like it in Flow, but I like Aat 40% and I like B at 30%.
Just let them do the feedback.
That is a real good beginner'stip, because you want to enjoy
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this.
You're investing money in theseproducts.
You want to enjoy the products,but you also want to enjoy them
with your partners, and if youget the right combination and
you communicate, it can workwell.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And then, of course, you dress them as a bunny rabbit
.
I didn't dress you as a bunnyrabbit, you did that.
That was the part the nature ofthe party yeah, it was a party
so if anyone actually has anyquestions in relation to the
female perspective of Easton,then Kaz is still here, so you
can sort of talk to her now.
But we are going to do a um,some videos about the female
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side of things and, joanne,we're probably going to have a
chat to you as well, because,why not?
and Sabah and Sabah, becausethere is that whole element of
us.
Men have a particular viewpointof the way everything works.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's not a man's world.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's not a man's world, it's everyone's world and
it's more fun.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Men like things that go, buzz, ladies like things
that make you go ooh.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
That's one way of describing it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So you've actually, do you realise, realize you
virtually covered everythinghave I.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, I didn't even know what was on your list you
didn't even know what was on mylist.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I do.
There are a few other bits andpieces on my list, one of which
someone asked last week and saidbasically how do you develop
new products?
And initially I was going to doa little bit in here and sort
of go through how we developproducts and how we create new
ideas and go through that wholeprocess, but I'm actually going
to do a whole video on itbecause it is actually really
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really complex and there's lotsof little bits and pieces that
we do, although one thing thatdid appear the prototype, the
prototype, oh the prototype as atriple so we have the triple
and if I put the triple thereand then switch to that camera,
(30:39):
there we're getting high techhere switching cameras.
So this is the triple design.
The first prototype of thetriple is actually that doesn't
look anything like what itactually is or what it ended up
being, but that is basically howwe created the first physical
prototype of a triple.
(30:59):
No, this one has never actuallybeen inserted into anyone.
That was the next one becauseit had a nice curved top and
didn't have holes in the top.
But this was almost a proof ofconcept to see if it was
possible to create something,possible to do the engineering.
And the answer is it was, andthe triple is now officially the
fastest selling eastimelectrode we have ever created.
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We're just manufacturing themdaily and they're going out.
As soon as more stock gets onthe shelf, more stock goes out
the door, which is great.
Roy, that's a very valid coinfirst time.
Better to let partner takecontrol on their own as they try
it out.
Completely agree, roy.
The only thing I would say is,if they're controlling it and
(31:45):
they're wiring it to you, that'salways interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Just listen to the feedback If it's in that
situation where you're incontrol say nothing to that one,
shall we?
I'm not saying anything, justlisten to the feedback unless
they've got a gag in their mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Although the worst time for developing, and
particularly on power boxes, isthere are times when I'm writing
code and I'm testing the boxand the code goes wrong and it's
like it's happened.
(32:21):
It doesn't happen that oftenbecause I'm a little bit more we
are just human, we're not justbuying it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I am not human.
Oh, I could do that oh, no, no,no, do not press the button.
No, you won't let me press themagic.
Do not press the button.
Save that for the podcasttoothless eastern nerd.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I'd love to see the video on the design process
.
Um, it's planned it's comingit's coming um.
The problem is I'm spendingmore time designing them and
building them than it isactually videoing them.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
We've had some interesting conversations this
week.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yes, there have been.
Some new ideas have cropped up.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And there's been some odd things that we've seen at
Eurofame as well.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yes, when you wander around other stands, and one of
my pet hates in the industry isthe way that companies will farm
out a lot of their productioninto china, and there were a
number of stands which werebasically chinese manufacturers
doing the ah, I make that onefor you exclusively and they'll
offer the same product tosomebody else and you look at it
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and go that's very much like asatisfier or layla, and it is.
They've copied it and yep, yousee lawyers sometimes walk
around with cease and desistletters saying you must take
those down, and we did see onestand once completely closed
down there was a stand this timethat was all taped off and
stripped bare, so I don't eventhink they made it past the set
up.
Yeah, I don't think they passedthe set up on that.
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Joanne says we can't get holdof triples fast enough.
They are amazing, yep, Icompletely agree.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
The answer is Joanne order more.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, just order more .
Speaker 2 (33:55):
As soon as they're ordered, they'll get on to
production.
I would just go and wire upengineering to the remote, shall
I?
That could be entertaining.
Make me some more triples.
Make me some more triples.
What do you?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
need today triples.
The good news is, with the newmachinery that we put in place,
things are improving.
Um, we were actually workingthis weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well, I was in yesterday.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I was unpacking and whilst you were unpacking, and
yeah, we're translating thestuff over across the new
machines, which will give usprobably a 40 increase in terms
of manufacturing capacity andthings.
Just they're faster.
We have a hello there fromDutch guy.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Hello Dutch guy.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Hello Dutch guy, we're coming to see you next
year because Eurofame next yearis actually going to be held in
Amsterdam.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Ah, is it Amsterdam?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yes, we will be going for Amsterdam and all strop
waffles.
We like strop waffles.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I think we got some actually from the last trip.
Next year, Eurofame is in theRye Amsterdam, so that's going
to be an interesting one it is,and of course we're back in
sunny Barcelona.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, we're doing a show in Barcelona.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And we'll also be doing a show in the US.
Yeah, back to America, burbank.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Strange enough, we were actually chatting to one of
the guys who now runs ETOMagazine.
Eto Magazine is a trademagazine for the UK, although
they're actually expanding intoEurope and it's a fantastic
magazine.
If you're in the industry andyou're interested in what's
going on, go and log into theirwebsite it's Erotic Trade Only
and get yourself a copy of themagazine.
I think it comes out six timesa year.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
At the moment it's quarterly.
It's quarterly, but I thinkit's going to be more.
It's a really good magazine.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's a really good magazine, but we were talking
about the lack of shows in theUK.
One of the problems is thesheer cost of doing a show.
Unfortunately, when you go tosomewhere like the NEC, they're
going to want large sums ofmoney to put on a show and the
minute you say it's an adultshow, that large sums of money
gets even larger because theythink that something dodgy is
(35:52):
going on.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
What's Kurt's comment ?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Anyway, everyone's talking about strop waffles now.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh they're nice.
Nothing like a strop waffle.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Stuntcock is outside playing with his violet wand.
Yeah, Stuntcock, can you stopplaying with a violet wand
please?
I don't know what's not goingworking.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But it's one of those techie things that probably
somewhere it's our turn for thetech bug.
Yes, our turn for the minions.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I know what it is anyway, I think we're gonna stop
, because it is getting a littlebit jerky and bumpy, zap, zap,
zap.
Yeah, maybe loose cable.
I'm for the problem with aloose cable.
I'll switch back to my btscamera if it works the problem
we've got with cables.
So here's the laptop.
So, as you can see, one laptop,strangely enough it isn't
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jumping around a little bit.
And now when you look at thecables, that's how many cables
we have to deal with.
And yes, the red one actuallyisn't a cable that we actually
use.
So I don't know what'shappening on that one.
It could be a case of we've gotan issue this end, or it could
be a case of we have an issue onthe system going up to stream
(36:59):
yard.
Who knows?
I I will analyze it and have alook and hopefully I said the
naughty word, yeah it was.
kaz said the naughty word, andyoutube have found out.
Yeah, so next time we mightactually try something a little
bit different and use the directto YouTube feed.
So we'll see what happens.
Anyway, I'm going to trypressing another button.
That's the boring one.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That's the subscribe.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
What's the difference between the 2mm and the 4mm
cable for the Ebox 2B?
More since I, do you mean thecable or do you mean the loops?
Do we have some loops floatingaround?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
here's one I made earlier that's four mil.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yep, so if you mean the cables, the cables.
The only difference on them isthe size of the plug, and
there's only a couple of thingsthat actually require a two
millimeter cable.
So you're looking at twomillimeter loops and you're also
looking at the sticky pads.
Everything else is fourmillimeter.
So these are four millimeterconductive rubber loops.
(38:00):
These will use a four plug orfour millimeter cable.
The two millimeter ones are alittle bit thinner.
In terms of the sensation onthe loops, the two millimeters
tend to be a tiny little bitsharper.
Um, yep, it was loops.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So, yeah, they tend to be a little bit sharper it's
more to the contact area becausethe two mils are quite thin.
They are a bit.
They can be more intense yeah,so that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
The two milss a little bit sharper, four mils
slightly more contact area.
You can sort of get around itby putting in some bit more
conductive gel and try andsmooth it out, but that's the
main difference between the two.
Why do we do two different ones?
Well, because we do twomillimeter cables for sticky
pads and all of our units havesticky pads in them for sticky
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pads, and all of our units havesticky pads in them.
You have that element of weneed to put those in in order to
use them for sticky pads.
And then we wanted somethingthat was simple to use, so we
had the two millimeterconducting rubber anyway,
hopefully it's been entertaining.
Hopefully we've managed toanswer a few questions.
We are going to do some extravideos.
So we're going to do a video onhow we actually do design
process and going throughprototypes and things like that.
(39:15):
Kaz is going to be doing somevideos talking about the female
perspective.
Now you tell me yeah, but atleast you'll be live, I've got
enough to do.
And the next live stream.
It will be the end of nextmonth, end of October, end of
October.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So it's, last.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Sunday of the month at 5pm.
Fingers crossed, there will besome news on that one.
Thanks very much, reallyenjoyed it.
Once again, thank you, david.
This is the reason why we dothis.
Well, that and the fact that wewatch Joanne's and just see how
much fun they enjoy it and thengo.
We must do it, but anyone,anyway.
Anyone enjoy it and then go.
We must do it, but anyone,anyway, anyone.
Thank you for watching everyone.
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Thank you for joanne and stunt,cock and sabar, because they're
the ones who inspire us to dothis.
And don't forget, they do a livestream every single week
although we did give you a weekoff this week although we did
give them a week off becausethey were going to do a live
stream yesterday and then wepointed out we were doing a live
stream today.
Therefore they said oh, we'renot, we're not going to do live
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stream yesterday which is thankyou very much, we'll give you a
week off, guys.
So we probably actually gotsome of that.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, Great Thank you .
But yeah, they'll be back nextweek somewhere drinking
cocktails.
We'll probably be in hereactually because we'll be
prepping some other bits andpieces.
But anyway, thank you forwatching um.
Thank you creme, thank youdanny, thank you everyone for
listening and putting up withthe look, jerky, jerky bits.
(40:40):
I am intrigued now as to whatwas going on anyway, thank you
everyone, thanks for watching,have a good one and, whatever
you do, please be safe andhopefully.
I'm going to press a button nowand this is going to happen.
Hello everybody.
It's Wayne here from eStimSystems and this is the third
time that I am attempting to golive and hopefully everything is
working, because I've done theusual trick 15 seconds before I
go live I start to press buttons.
Hopefully you can all hear me.
We have literally just comeback from a show in Germany when
(00:22):
when I say literally, weactually came back Friday.
The van came back this morningbecause we had to drive all the
kit over and it's been a bit ofa rushing around trying to get
things back into storage etc.
But it's been a veryinteresting week.
We were at Eurofame in Hanover,which is a business to business
show, so it's not your classicshow, so it's a trade show.
(00:45):
Hopefully you've seen a coupleof the videos that we posted
about it, particularly the setup, which wasn't too bad.
Actually, we've got set upquite refined.
When we do shows, we literallyjust rock up with a van, unload
the crates and then spend threehours polishing everything
because the cabinets need to bepolished, they need to be nice
and clean, and then we had threedays of the show and then we
(01:05):
have to do everything in reverseas well as jumping on aircraft
to try and get back, and thereis actually a plane that comes
back from Hanover, which wejokingly call the Hanover
Express, because it has everyonein the UK who's been to Hanover
.
We all get on the same planeand it's quite good fun and it
was a very good show for us.
It was great to see lots ofpeople.
It was great to see lots ofpeople who are current stockists
(01:29):
and also we've picked up a fewpeople who hopefully fingers
crossed will become newstockists.
So we're moving towards havingmore stores in Europe.
One thing that allows is you togo to your local store and
hopefully purchase our kit frompeople you already know.
So it gives us a bit extrathere, not just selling
(01:51):
everything on the internet.
You can still buy directly fromus on the internet, but we like
to have stores dotted aroundEurope and in the US, but at the
moment we're talking aboutEurope.
So watch this space.
There are going to be a few newbits and pieces appearing.
Bits and pieces appearing yeah,one slight little thing that
went slightly wrong.
If you'd watched the last livestream, you might know that we
(02:14):
were putting some new machineryinto the workshops.
Now eSTIM Systems.
We build our own products inour own workshops.
The problem is, after a whileyou start to look and go I need
to have more production capacity, I need to have new machines
that do things faster and better, more facilities.
And then you have to get thosemachines in and, yes, it was a
bit of a squeeze and then yourealize that the machine is
(02:37):
allegedly the same as the oneyou had before, but it isn't.
So you then have to start goingthrough code recoding for new
machines and and there's been afew delays, which is why some of
our shipments have been alittle bit delayed, only by a
couple of days.
One of those delays wasmanufacture of a product which
we were planning to launch atEurofame, and we do have a
(03:01):
policy that we do not launchanything unless we actually have
stock of something on theshelves, and we couldn't launch
it because we didn't have anystock of it.
So those of you who are sittingthere going, what's the new
thing?
What's the new thing?
What's the new thing?
I'm not going to tell youbecause we haven't launched it
yet, really Sorry.
The good news is it's imminent,but I'm not telling you what it
(03:21):
is.
And I'm not telling you what itis and I'm not going to be too
precise on when it is, but Ithink the next live stream we
will actually be showing it toyou and hopefully by then it
will be available.
But it's purely and simply downto the fact that everything
else has been so popular.
We've been maxed out.
Trying to get the new machinesin and running and then get
stock out to you and bringinganything new in.
(03:43):
it's a bit of a nightmare and wego to shows and then because I
out to you and bringing anythingnew in, it's a bit of a
nightmare and we go to shows.
And then, because I've got abit of downtime, I then come up
with my little black book andcome up with even more designs.
So we've got a packed list ofthings to do and a packed list
of new ideas coming up.
Unfortunately, the new stuffdidn't appear, which is a bit of
a shame, but it is coming.
(04:04):
Anyway, the other thing thatwe've missed mentioning is the
fact that it's actually ourbirthday.
We have been around for 20years 20 years doing Eastim,
when we thought we might sell afew boxes when we started, and
20 years later, we are nowmaking quite a few boxes and
it's been fun and it's been downto people like you who sit here
(04:24):
listening to me driveling onabout nothing.
Now, one of the things we didpromise on the last live stream
we're going to do a little bitof a backstage element here, so
we're going to explain what wehave in the studio.
I know stunt cock and joanneare sitting there with their
notepads out going right.
We're going to copy that.
We're going to use that one andthat one.
So the first thing we're goingto talk about is the fact that I
(04:47):
am sitting here talking to acamera which is mounted on a
tripod, not really in front ofme.
Beside that is something calledthe BTS camera.
Now, the BTS camera is juststuck off the side.
It is actually a Blackmagic 4Kwith a very tiny little lens and
that gives you a bit of behindthe scenes view, but it doesn't
(05:07):
give you as much view as youpossibly like.
You can actually see a biglight here that's lighting me
from this side, and you can justabout see a camera over there
which is one of my b camerasthere.
We are hello camera there.
Now, this camera is a littlebit special because it's mounted
on a remote control, so I canactually do weird, wonderful
(05:30):
things with it.
There's the two main ones andthere's the other side one.
Incidentally, we do.
Actually, if I go up, we'reactually in an office.
This is normally an office, asyou can see from the lovely lime
walls.
If I now go up, you'll see acamera up there and a microphone
.
Now, one thing I'm reallydisappointed in we do not have a
(05:52):
piece of wood holding ourlights up or holding our
microphones up, and I'm reallydisappointed that I think,
joanne and Stuntcock, you'veexceeded yourself because you
have pieces of wood.
We have that and I know itlooks a complete mess.
It's basically a lighting standwith a couple of bars across
(06:16):
and another lighting stand, andthat's how we hold two
microphones up and then we'vegot an overhead camera.
This is all controlled by amagical box of tricks which, for
youtubers and live streamers,these have been game changers,
these are black magic 8mswitchers.
This is the 8m switcher extreme.
I think it is eight channels,so I can have eight channels
(06:40):
controlling.
Everything does audio as well.
Everything runs off hdmi andI'm also recording the stream
that goes onto a ssd drive.
And then I have a laptop butthat basically has some control
software on there and it alsohas something called bit focus
which allows me to createbuttons and things which control
this.
(07:01):
Yes, there is a big bit at thetop that says did you press
record?
Because last time I did a videofrom this studio and we use
this studio to do our normalvideos of how we use products
and things like that I did a 20minute video and forgot to press
record.
I did exactly the same thing inGermany.
I did a walk around the showfor about 5-10 minutes, I forgot
(07:23):
to press record.
I now put these little signseverywhere saying press record.
So, basically, this is anoffice with a bunch of cameras
set up and, yeah, you mightnotice in the background if I
zoom in, there is a bunch ofDisney toys.
Now, before anyone startscomplaining that we are doing
something strange and corruptingthe children no, we're not, but
(07:47):
my guest happens to be a Disneyfan and we actually use this
studio to do live streaming forDisney podcasts and things.
What's the make of your cameras?
Okay, this gets a little bitcomplex.
The camera, the main camera, isa Canon C100 Mark II, I think.
So the one I'm currentlylooking at the moment is a Canon
(08:08):
.
My background back in my darkand distant past was actually
press photography.
Don't ask me about what I didthen, but yeah, I used to be a
press photographer, so I tendedto go for Canon kit.
All my kit was Canon.
So I ended up with a Canon C100.
And that was the first camerawe bought.
The rest of them we started tomove over to Blackmagic.
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One of the reasons is they work.
The quality is outstanding,they work really well with the
kit that we use and they'rerelatively cheap, especially if
you're buying them secondhand,which is what I'm doing.
So we have a Blackmagic 4K, aBlackmagic 6K and a Blackmagic
4k, a Blackmagic 6k and aBlackmagic 6k Pro, and then
we've got my little personalcamera, which is a Canon M6,
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which is this one here andactually this one up here.
The one up in the height is aBlackmagic studio camera, which
actually is a little bit harderto use because we have to add in
extra bits of wiring.
So there's a SDI to HDMI boxsitting there and a few extra
wires.
Once you bought into a lenscollection, it just makes sense
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to stay with the same collection, and the simple answer is yes,
completely agree.
I used Nikon a couple of timeswhen I first started as a
photographer, but since thenI've always used Canon and we
have Canon lenses all over theplace.
The audio we run for aRodecaster Pro, which we
actually also use for doing someof our podcasts.
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You don't want to look at thefloor?
Cable management is notsomething I'm very good at, so
I've got to chop that up.
The benefits of having a studiomeans we can literally come in
here and in 20 minutes we'reready to shoot.
Come in here and in 20 minuteswe're ready to shoot.
When we shot some of our earlyvideos, it would take us three
or four hours to clear up enoughspace to actually create a
reasonable background and thenactually then record the video.
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Now with the studio, you canliterally come in, shoot the
video, take it home on an ssdand do the edits at home.
I mean, I sometimes edit here,but it just gives you more, it's
more convenient and you'll findthat a lot of people who do
YouTube they move from nothaving a studio to at least
creating a tiny little space.
You'll notice also a couple ofour smaller videos.
(10:16):
When I say smaller videos, thesort of the shorts and the
vertical stuff just has a redbackground behind me and that's
they actually shot in the cornerof my bedroom with a tiny
little 4K webcam and me sort ofsitting there like this with a
couple of lights.
So you don't need to have largeamounts of kit to produce
videos.
It just makes it a bit easierand hopefully it works most of
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the time.
Couple of other bits we haveIKEA cabinets behind us.
I think virtually every homestudio in the world has ikea
cabinets.
We have a on-air sign which wasmankind and we also have a nice
little lumetri clock, whichI've just got working, so this
actually flashes up how manyfollowers, subscribers etc.
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We have on the various bits andpieces.
But anyway, that's the studio.
Now we're going to get on tothe guest.
Now, I admit I tried to getsomebody else.
I tried to get a guest that I'dbeen after for quite a while
and she wasn't available thisweek.
So I had to get someone elsewho actually is key to the
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company in so much that if itwasn't for this person, eastim
Systems wouldn't be doing whatthey do now and probably
wouldn't even started, because Iwould have just gone off and
found something else.
So I'm going to drag them in andI'm going to have to shift this
way because I need to createsome space it's a little one
(11:46):
it's a little one it's a littleone, it's a little me it's a
little me, and so, ladies andgentlemen, I'd like to introduce
you to Kaz who, who's alsoknown as Wifey, because she does
actually happen to be the wife.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I'm also known as Voltiana.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And she's also known as Voltiana.
Oh look, we've got comments.
We've got comments, Cren, nosuch thing as to get too much
gadgets.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yes, there is Too many gadgets.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Cren doesn't make eye contact with servers, switches,
nas, ups, spare PC, guest, pcbackup NAS.
Great doesn't make eye contactwith servers, switches, nas, ups
, spare pc, guest pc, backup,nas tape drive.
We'll, at some point in timeI'll probably do a live stream
from the workshops and theoffice, because we do actually
have some servers that we nolonger use, which we used to use
in the office.
(12:32):
I got told they were too noisyand there is a tape drive in
there and there's several nazisand there's an awful lot of
networking kit that we no longeruse because we just don't use
it anymore.
So, yeah, you can never havetoo many gadgets, gadgets and
gizmos.
I have my buttons here and kazhas everything else I have a
sofa yeah, you have a sofa, youlike your sofa, so anyway, this
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is Wifey.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yes, I'm Wifey.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Wifey's been around for a while in terms of Eastim
Systems, because she sort ofappeared at roughly the same
point that Eastim Systemsappeared.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I just hope so.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Because we first met on your birthday actually,
wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, 20 years ago on my birthday.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That's scary.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's very scary.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, I've got some questions for her.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I didn't really tell her about this.
I just sort of said you'recoming on today, and she was
like no, so bear with me if Iwaffle.
Bear with you, I'll just cutyou off.
Incidentally, wifey also doesDisney podcasts and YouTube.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So we'll put the links up there and you can go
and hence all the disney stuffin the corner.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, we're the only e-stim company in the world that
has stitches dotted all overthe office just because you can
yeah right, you can never havetoo many stitches.
Anyways, one of the reasons Iactually brought cas on apart
from the fact that I want totalk to someone for the next 20
minutes or so was actually basedon a couple of comments that
were made at the Eurofame showand there are also comments that
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have been made overall, and alot of people seem to think that
e-stim is just for men.
It is a very masculine hobby.
Men tend to be much moreexternal in their sensations, so
sticking east in electrodesover ourselves is quite easy
until you start sticking thingsinside, and then it gets even
more interesting.
But a lot of people assume thateast in is male orientated and
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the honest answer is it isn't,is it?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
nope, it certainly is not male orientated.
From a female perspective, itcan be quite nice Quite nice.
Yeah, just a little bit nice,hence the Mona which I happen to
name.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yes, do we have a Mona here?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yes, we do.
It's behind you, it's behind.
It's always worrying whensomeone says and my bobble.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
There's a Mona and there's a bobble.
There's your Mona.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's my Mona, one of my favourites.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, hopefully everyone can hear you.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Because, well, there's a name says it's a.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Mona.
Yeah, we did actually changethe name of the Mona, because
when we first created it it wasMona, as in the girl's name.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, it was.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Oh my beep beep, oh my beep, beep, beep, beep, beep,
god uh, yeah, it was that, butit was mona, as in a girl's name
.
And then a couple of storesactually said we can't sell it.
Why?
Well, because we can't sell agirl's name electrode in a gay
store.
Okay, so we changed name, soit's mona, as in moaning, and
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that's the history of the mona,and the mona is, I would say,
yeah, I think it is our most,it's our most popular electrode.
It's one of those depending onwhich day you look it's either
going to be this, or it's goingto be the mj or it's going to be
the flange, but generally themona is the most popular
electrode nice flange base so itdoesn't get stuffed in too far,
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and quite a nice separationbetween the head and the base,
so you get quite a nicesensation over a reasonable area
and it stimulates nice littlebits outside as well and it
stimulates nice little bitsoutside well, it depends how
graphic you want it to go umjoanne, it's my favorite
electrode.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So yeah, it's definitely joe, it's definitely
one of my favorites as well,that with a flange and a sticky
pad on tri-phase on a pebble yep, who's sitting there going?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
can I have a go now?
No, and then we've got the the,the bobble my infamous design.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I actually designed this one because I I was getting
bored of having all theelectrodes with the spacers
being at the bottom.
It's like that's great, butsometimes you want something a
little bit different.
So one night in my wisdom we'resitting talking about designs
and I came up with a design forthe bobble because I just wanted
something that went a littlebit further internally but also
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gave bipolar contact, inside aswell as outside.
And yeah, that's how the bobbledesign came up.
And also because of the shape,from a lady's point of view,
it's good for, dare I say, theladies' pelvic floor, because
when ladies get to a certain age, their pelvic floors become not
so pelvic.
And yeah, it's just a reallygood one for ladies and it is
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one of the favourite ones.
And of course, it had to have acoloured neck.
It wasn't a big standard boringblack, it had to be coloured as
well.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, we won't mention the fact that that red
plastic is probably the mostexpensive plastic on the planet.
It's like it's red.
And when you speak to theplastics manufacturers, they're
like we do black, but we wantred.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And they're like oh, okay, I did initially want
bright pink, but that was one ofthe cases of well, we can get
you one size, but they wouldgive you a piece of plastic that
was that wide to do something.
That's about that big.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, it was a bit of a waste.
It was a bit of a waste ofmaterials though.
Jo likes that and the largeflow.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
The large flow is okay, but I find it doesn't stay
in with me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Does it get a bit juicy?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I think that's the point where YouTube are now
going to chuck us into thenaughty corner Beep, beep, beep.
Naughty corner.
To the naughty corner.
Naughty corner, naughty step.
Sorry youtube, roy hat sorry,I'm late.
Well, roy, you're gonna have togo and stand in naughty corner.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I mean, joanne is already in there with I'm sure,
roy, that joanne's got somespikes waiting for you in the
corner do we have to mentionspikes?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I wanted to do a live stream with no mention of
spikes I want spikes, oh no whatis it?
Here's a question for you, forthose of you who've got partners
why have they got obsessionwith spikes?
Joanne has an obsession withspikes.
You've got an obsession withspikes.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I should have brought my spiky pinwheel.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm saying nothing.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And now he goes quiet .
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm going very, very quiet.
What's your favourite box?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Favourite box initially was a series one which
, well, that was the first onethat we helped.
I sort of helped you sort ofdevelop in a way, because you
had the basic idea and then wesort of added bits and pieces,
including that lovely firebutton.
You quite like the remotecontrol especially.
There is a story behind theremote control and I will
diverge this story of beingdressed like a bunny doing a
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range test.
So when we say our remote's gota range of 50 meters, trust me,
it is 50 meters.
How do I know that?
Because he had me hoppingacross a field dressed as a
bunny rabbit.
So, yes, that does work.
What's wrong with that?
And then the pebble, because Ido like some of the modes on the
Pebble and having the twooutputs and having a bit more
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control.
And, as I've mentioned, thePebble with a tri-phase is
definitely like, hmm, yeah, likethat.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I'm not mentioning the remote.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Or is it the A-Box, the one we sang?
Happy birthday to you with.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh dear, Are you going to tell that story now?
Oh dear, Are you going to tellthat story now?
All right, you can tell thestory of the A-Box I remember
developing the A-Box.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We had gone to an event with some of our little
boxes of fun and I had this onewired up to an A-Box and it
happened to be his birthday andhe had electrodes in interesting
locations and the whole roomsang happy birthday to him and
gave him three cheers ratherloudly and he felt every single
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one of them.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I did.
Joanne says she's getting thespikes ready.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Good, Can I have some in my direction please?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I'm not saying anything.
Testing is good, right, we lovetesting.
What about the lips?
What are you making for that?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
you making for that um, but the flow, the actually
for the lips, for the ladies,the flange electrodes, that
wider base does actually sit onthe lips quite nicely and
depending on how you position itit can sort of hit also that
exclusive little um.
Can I say the c word?
You can say what?
you like it has, it doesactually hit on some ladies.
It does say you hit the head ofthe clitoris.
So if it's in the rightlocation it's just right.
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But also from a lady's point ofview, two sticky pads outside
of the clitoris works reallywell.
Sticky pads combined with aninsertable.
That is quite a very nicesensation, especially if you've
got it on a wavy format and alsoa sticky pad.
There's one contact ontri-phase head of electrode in
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the front hole and then a headof electrode down the back on
tri-phase again.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
That is really nice, that just gets like okay,
someone's getting that.
I must say, one thing that alot of people ignore is sticky
pads.
Sticky pads are probably themost versatile electrode you can
get, especially because theytend to stick to virtually
anything.
I mean, if you've got a bit ofhair around, maybe trim it up
and shave it a little bit,because, yeah, they do stick and
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they will pull hells outpotentially.
We did have the infamous Imanaged to stick a sticky pad to
the cat.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It wasn't attached, I will point it out.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It wasn't attached to a box.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
The cat sort of sat down and we'd forgotten to put
the pads back onto a carriersheet and the cat sort of came
up for a cuddle.
And then the next day there's acat.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
There's a cat with a little pad and a little wire.
Yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But anyone who contacts the company by the
telephone, you'll either get oneof our colleagues, kay, or
you'll get myself.
Now I've had some veryinteresting conversations with
customers.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I'm not sure we need to publish these ones Over the
time.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I'm not going to go too graphic on some of the
conversations that we have had.
You do get the little man,little sorry gentleman, not a
little man, a gentleman phoningup, normally of the older
persuasion, and when theyrealize that they're talking to
a lady on the telephone, you doget the I wish to talk about and
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they, yeah, they do gettongue-tied and it's's only when
I sort of put it out there theygo it's okay.
So you want to stimulate yourgenitals?
Yes, this is the box for you.
No, it won't hurt, yes, it willgive you pleasure, and it's oh.
Okay, then can I order please?
And then I do get the oddconversation where it does get
the yes, mistress, whatever yousay, mistress.
(23:18):
Oh, yes, mistress conversationwhere it does get the yes,
mistress, whatever you saymistress, oh, yes, mistress, I
really like your mistress, oh,mistress say it again and it's
just like it's the point.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's the point when they turn around and say, would
you like me to put it in now,you start to go.
This is not only fans.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Maybe calls back later I don't know if, if Joe
ever has customers that sort ofsend graphic emails and that,
but I've had a few graphicconversations with people on the
phone and it does get a littlebit awkward sometimes yeah, I
think, at the end of the day,that's what we do for business,
so we're quite happy to talk topeople.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Sometimes the issue is actually they're they're in
their own offices and they don'treally want to say certain
words because other people mighthear, which is perfectly
understandable.
We're quite happy to workaround the questions in any way
people wish, or just send us anemail and be as graphic as you
like.
We have a number of customerswho send us emails with them
demonstrating how they use ourelectrodes there is still the
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picture of the decimator in use.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
We've actually had pictures of this in use.
Yes, it was interesting BecauseDanny asked how many of the big
ones we sell.
I did mention more than yourealised.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, when I get engineering going, we're making
more decimators.
It's like, okay, yeah, and thedecimator was something that we
made initially, actually as ajoke.
You go into stores, you go intostores and they have large
things.
Companies build larger versionsof what they do, just as
display pieces, and we did thatwith the decimator.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Unfortunately, people kept buying it and he was like
we'll just make some more then Iremember the first time he put
it on display erotica back whenerotica run, and this guy walked
past and went oh, and he walkedpast again.
I went, oh, and he walked pastagain, he went.
How?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
much.
We were like, um, um, I can'tremember, in fact I don't know
because I never really yeah,decided to sell it, but we gave
him a price and he found thatwas quite reasonable.
And yeah, that was the firstone.
And now there's probably quitea few professional dominatrix
out there who've got them intheir studios just to scare the
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subs.
If you don't do as you're told,that is going up there and
there's a poor little subsitting there going no.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I'll do going.
Oh no, yes, yes, yes, whateveryou say, I'll do anything, just
not that.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Do you think the Mona is the best electrode for a
woman to start?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
with, I think, for a starting point for a woman.
Bear in mind, I initiallystarted with a little white
plastic.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That was the Veryprobe.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, little white plastic thing Veryprobe, and
that was the Veryprobe.
Yeah, little white plasticthing Veryprobe.
I don't think we've got one now.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I don't think the Veryprobes were about this big
and they were actually a medicalelectrode.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
A bit of history.
I actually was experimentingwith this before I met Wayne and
I had a TENS machine and alittle white plastic electrode.
And I just found the TENSmachine, just didn't have the
oomph.
So we created the series one youshould actually have a series
one over here, but we don't no,I think we have to get one out
of the archive, but yeah, I usedto have a little white
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electrode and then we came upwith the flange and that was a
nice starting point.
Behind you you have the flangewhich is the baby baby brother
of the mona or the baby sisterof the mona.
But it was nice, but for me itjust needed something just a
little bit bigger.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Pass me the remote.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Which is why we then went up for the Mona.
But an ideal beginner one forthe lady is Mr Flangey, your
hands keep moving.
There's my flange, because it'sgot that base at the bottom and
, as I've mentioned this bit,when it's inserted it does sit
quite snugly and it can hit theclitoris and it just gives you
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that internal and external.
Yeah, when you're in the rightmodes, it feels like it's doing
that inside you, which can bequite fun as well.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's the flange.
That's the flangey.
My wheezy camera thing stoppedworking at that point has it
stopped working?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Is it whizzed?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I had an extra bit on my camera that would zoom in
and zoom out, but it's notworking.
Battery's gone flat.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
If anyone's watching this and wants a female
perspective on Easton, pleasedrop us a message or drop us a
line and I will happily gothrough where to start, and from
a couple's point of view.
Now, this is another area thatI get asked and I deal with on a
regular basis.
Is you get the the gentlemanfrom the couple email saying me
and my partner wants to startwhat's a good point for her to?
(27:39):
What should I get for her tofit?
To start with, we do do introkits, which are great fun, but
one thing I will say is, whenyou get your kit, please don't
tell her oh yes, you're gonnalove this, darling, pop it all
in and wank up the pot, ramp upthe pot, basically crank up the
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power to full output, becauseshe'll turn around and go not on
your and that's it.
You'll never play with it againshe'll be stuck to the ceiling
she'll be stuck to the ceilingand you'll be sleeping on the
sofa.
So my advice would be, if youare going to get this, to
introduce it to your partnerregardless male, female.
Let them have the box tothemselves and let them have a
(28:23):
little bit of me time todiscover what they do and don't
like, and then they can feedback to you.
That's okay on the say, for meon the Pebble.
Okay on the Pebble.
I like it in Flow, but I like Aat 40% and I like B at 30%.
Just let them do the feedback.
That is a real good beginner'stip, because you want to enjoy
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this.
You're investing money in theseproducts.
You want to enjoy the products,but you also want to enjoy them
with your partners, and if youget the right combination and
you communicate, it can workwell.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And then, of course, you dress them as a bunny rabbit
.
I didn't dress you as a bunnyrabbit, you did that.
That was the part the nature ofthe party yeah, it was a party
so if anyone actually has anyquestions in relation to the
female perspective of Easton,then Kaz is still here, so you
can sort of talk to her now.
But we are going to do a um,some videos about the female
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side of things and, joanne,we're probably going to have a
chat to you as well, because,why not?
and Sabah and Sabah, becausethere is that whole element of
us.
Men have a particular viewpointof the way everything works.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's not a man's world.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's not a man's world, it's everyone's world and
it's more fun.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Men like things that go, buzz, ladies like things
that make you go ooh.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
That's one way of describing it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So you've actually, do you realise, realize you
virtually covered everythinghave I.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, I didn't even know what was on your list you
didn't even know what was on mylist.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I do.
There are a few other bits andpieces on my list, one of which
someone asked last week and saidbasically how do you develop
new products?
And initially I was going to doa little bit in here and sort
of go through how we developproducts and how we create new
ideas and go through that wholeprocess, but I'm actually going
to do a whole video on itbecause it is actually really
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really complex and there's lotsof little bits and pieces that
we do, although one thing thatdid appear the prototype, the
prototype, oh the prototype as atriple so we have the triple
and if I put the triple thereand then switch to that camera,
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there we're getting high techhere switching cameras.
So this is the triple design.
The first prototype of thetriple is actually that doesn't
look anything like what itactually is or what it ended up
being, but that is basically howwe created the first physical
prototype of a triple.
(30:59):
No, this one has never actuallybeen inserted into anyone.
That was the next one becauseit had a nice curved top and
didn't have holes in the top.
But this was almost a proof ofconcept to see if it was
possible to create something,possible to do the engineering.
And the answer is it was, andthe triple is now officially the
fastest selling eastimelectrode we have ever created.
(31:22):
We're just manufacturing themdaily and they're going out.
As soon as more stock gets onthe shelf, more stock goes out
the door, which is great.
Roy, that's a very valid coinfirst time.
Better to let partner takecontrol on their own as they try
it out.
Completely agree, roy.
The only thing I would say is,if they're controlling it and
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they're wiring it to you, that'salways interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Just listen to the feedback If it's in that
situation where you're incontrol say nothing to that one,
shall we?
I'm not saying anything, justlisten to the feedback unless
they've got a gag in their mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Although the worst time for developing, and
particularly on power boxes, isthere are times when I'm writing
code and I'm testing the boxand the code goes wrong and it's
like it's happened.
(32:21):
It doesn't happen that oftenbecause I'm a little bit more we
are just human, we're not justbuying it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I am not human.
Oh, I could do that oh, no, no,no, do not press the button.
No, you won't let me press themagic.
Do not press the button.
Save that for the podcasttoothless eastern nerd.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I'd love to see the video on the design process
.
Um, it's planned it's comingit's coming um.
The problem is I'm spendingmore time designing them and
building them than it isactually videoing them.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
We've had some interesting conversations this
week.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yes, there have been.
Some new ideas have cropped up.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And there's been some odd things that we've seen at
Eurofame as well.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yes, when you wander around other stands, and one of
my pet hates in the industry isthe way that companies will farm
out a lot of their productioninto china, and there were a
number of stands which werebasically chinese manufacturers
doing the ah, I make that onefor you exclusively and they'll
offer the same product tosomebody else and you look at it
(33:23):
and go that's very much like asatisfier or layla, and it is.
They've copied it and yep, yousee lawyers sometimes walk
around with cease and desistletters saying you must take
those down, and we did see onestand once completely closed
down there was a stand this timethat was all taped off and
stripped bare, so I don't eventhink they made it past the set
up.
Yeah, I don't think they passedthe set up on that.
(33:43):
Joanne says we can't get holdof triples fast enough.
They are amazing, yep, Icompletely agree.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
The answer is Joanne order more.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, just order more .
Speaker 2 (33:55):
As soon as they're ordered, they'll get on to
production.
I would just go and wire upengineering to the remote, shall
I?
That could be entertaining.
Make me some more triples.
Make me some more triples.
What do you?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
need today triples.
The good news is, with the newmachinery that we put in place,
things are improving.
Um, we were actually workingthis weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well, I was in yesterday.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I was unpacking and whilst you were unpacking, and
yeah, we're translating thestuff over across the new
machines, which will give usprobably a 40 increase in terms
of manufacturing capacity andthings.
Just they're faster.
We have a hello there fromDutch guy.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Hello Dutch guy.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Hello Dutch guy, we're coming to see you next
year because Eurofame next yearis actually going to be held in
Amsterdam.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Ah, is it Amsterdam?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yes, we will be going for Amsterdam and all strop
waffles.
We like strop waffles.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I think we got some actually from the last trip.
Next year, Eurofame is in theRye Amsterdam, so that's going
to be an interesting one it is,and of course we're back in
sunny Barcelona.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, we're doing a show in Barcelona.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And we'll also be doing a show in the US.
Yeah, back to America, burbank.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Strange enough, we were actually chatting to one of
the guys who now runs ETOMagazine.
Eto Magazine is a trademagazine for the UK, although
they're actually expanding intoEurope and it's a fantastic
magazine.
If you're in the industry andyou're interested in what's
going on, go and log into theirwebsite it's Erotic Trade Only
and get yourself a copy of themagazine.
I think it comes out six timesa year.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
At the moment it's quarterly.
It's quarterly, but I thinkit's going to be more.
It's a really good magazine.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's a really good magazine, but we were talking
about the lack of shows in theUK.
One of the problems is thesheer cost of doing a show.
Unfortunately, when you go tosomewhere like the NEC, they're
going to want large sums ofmoney to put on a show and the
minute you say it's an adultshow, that large sums of money
gets even larger because theythink that something dodgy is
(35:52):
going on.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
What's Kurt's comment ?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Anyway, everyone's talking about strop waffles now.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh they're nice.
Nothing like a strop waffle.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Stuntcock is outside playing with his violet wand.
Yeah, Stuntcock, can you stopplaying with a violet wand
please?
I don't know what's not goingworking.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But it's one of those techie things that probably
somewhere it's our turn for thetech bug.
Yes, our turn for the minions.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I know what it is anyway, I think we're gonna stop
, because it is getting a littlebit jerky and bumpy, zap, zap,
zap.
Yeah, maybe loose cable.
I'm for the problem with aloose cable.
I'll switch back to my btscamera if it works the problem
we've got with cables.
So here's the laptop.
So, as you can see, one laptop,strangely enough it isn't
(36:37):
jumping around a little bit.
And now when you look at thecables, that's how many cables
we have to deal with.
And yes, the red one actuallyisn't a cable that we actually
use.
So I don't know what'shappening on that one.
It could be a case of we've gotan issue this end, or it could
be a case of we have an issue onthe system going up to stream
(36:59):
yard.
Who knows?
I I will analyze it and have alook and hopefully I said the
naughty word, yeah it was.
kaz said the naughty word, andyoutube have found out.
Yeah, so next time we mightactually try something a little
bit different and use the directto YouTube feed.
So we'll see what happens.
Anyway, I'm going to trypressing another button.
That's the boring one.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That's the subscribe.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
What's the difference between the 2mm and the 4mm
cable for the Ebox 2B?
More since I, do you mean thecable or do you mean the loops?
Do we have some loops floatingaround?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
here's one I made earlier that's four mil.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yep, so if you mean the cables, the cables.
The only difference on them isthe size of the plug, and
there's only a couple of thingsthat actually require a two
millimeter cable.
So you're looking at twomillimeter loops and you're also
looking at the sticky pads.
Everything else is fourmillimeter.
So these are four millimeterconductive rubber loops.
(38:00):
These will use a four plug orfour millimeter cable.
The two millimeter ones are alittle bit thinner.
In terms of the sensation onthe loops, the two millimeters
tend to be a tiny little bitsharper.
Um, yep, it was loops.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So, yeah, they tend to be a little bit sharper it's
more to the contact area becausethe two mils are quite thin.
They are a bit.
They can be more intense yeah,so that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
The two milss a little bit sharper, four mils
slightly more contact area.
You can sort of get around itby putting in some bit more
conductive gel and try andsmooth it out, but that's the
main difference between the two.
Why do we do two different ones?
Well, because we do twomillimeter cables for sticky
pads and all of our units havesticky pads in them for sticky
(38:52):
pads, and all of our units havesticky pads in them.
You have that element of weneed to put those in in order to
use them for sticky pads.
And then we wanted somethingthat was simple to use, so we
had the two millimeterconducting rubber anyway,
hopefully it's been entertaining.
Hopefully we've managed toanswer a few questions.
We are going to do some extravideos.
So we're going to do a video onhow we actually do design
process and going throughprototypes and things like that.
(39:15):
Kaz is going to be doing somevideos talking about the female
perspective.
Now you tell me yeah, but atleast you'll be live, I've got
enough to do.
And the next live stream.
It will be the end of nextmonth, end of October, end of
October.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
So it's, last.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Sunday of the month at 5pm.
Fingers crossed, there will besome news on that one.
Thanks very much, reallyenjoyed it.
Once again, thank you, david.
This is the reason why we dothis.
Well, that and the fact that wewatch Joanne's and just see how
much fun they enjoy it and thengo.
We must do it, but anyone,anyway.
Anyone enjoy it and then go.
We must do it, but anyone,anyway, anyone.
Thank you for watching everyone.
(39:50):
Thank you for joanne and stunt,cock and sabar, because they're
the ones who inspire us to dothis.
And don't forget, they do a livestream every single week
although we did give you a weekoff this week although we did
give them a week off becausethey were going to do a live
stream yesterday and then wepointed out we were doing a live
stream today.
Therefore they said oh, we'renot, we're not going to do live
(40:12):
stream yesterday which is thankyou very much, we'll give you a
week off, guys.
So we probably actually gotsome of that.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, Great Thank you .
But yeah, they'll be back nextweek somewhere drinking
cocktails.
We'll probably be in hereactually because we'll be
prepping some other bits andpieces.
But anyway, thank you forwatching um.
Thank you creme, thank youdanny, thank you everyone for
listening and putting up withthe look, jerky, jerky bits.
(40:40):
I am intrigued now as to whatwas going on anyway, thank you
everyone, thanks for watching,have a good one and, whatever
you do, please be safe andhopefully.
I'm going to press a button nowand this is going to happen.
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