December 11, 2024 • 23 mins
What if a dog's loyalty could echo through the ages, leaving an indelible mark on history? Join us on a heartwarming excursion with Owen McMichael, fondly known as "the Mick," as we celebrate the timeless bond between a man and his devoted Sky Terrier. Travel back to 19th-century Edinburgh to meet Greyfriars Bobby, whose steadfast watch over his master's grave won the hearts of an entire city. This touching tale not only illuminates the emotional connection between humans and dogs but also offers a delightful peek into the quirks of Scottish culture, including their renowned love for fried foods.
But our conversation doesn't stop there. We dive into the broader topic of canine companionship, particularly the terrier breed's unwavering devotion. By sharing personal stories of our own furry friends, we explore the serendipitous nature of certain relationships, be they with pets or people. As we wrap up, we add a sprinkle of humor with a playful look at UK accents, examining the charming yet sometimes baffling Scottish and Irish dialects. With the festive season upon us, we extend our heartfelt holiday wishes, expressing gratitude to our listeners for their continued support.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Oh, hey, hola Como esta.
Hey, how's it going today, onthis fine winter?
Or we're creeping up intoChristmas, which is, you know,
an exciting and scary time ofyear being, as the year's the
crampus is Santa, and we're nottalking about that today.
We're going to talk aboutsomething that's a little
(00:23):
different and it's kind of oddly, I feel, like a very Owen
episode.
Well, not even oddly, becauseyou know, it's about Scottish
history of sorts, and also it'sabout dogs, and that's very much
our friend here, owen, the MickMcMichael, do you want to lead
us into this, my friend?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, this is the story of John Gray and Gray
Friars.
Bobby, oh nice, a Sky Terrier.
In 1850, john Gray became anight watchman for the Edinburgh
police.
The nights were long,particularly in the winter, and
eventually, in 1855, john wouldtake on a partner.
A loyal and tenacious SkyTerrier named Bobby was
faithfully by John's side as hewalked his beat.
(01:04):
Referred to as a watchdog,while Bobby's appearance was
less than intimidating, hiscompany was indispensable.
The pair were well known to thepeople of Edinburgh and, no
matter the weather, they couldbe seen walking the cobblestone
streets together.
Sadly, john developedtuberculosis and, despite the
efforts of a police surgeon, hepassed away February 15, 1858.
Despite the efforts of thepolice surgeon, he passed away
(01:26):
February 15, 1858.
With his master laid to rest inGreyfriars' kirkyard.
Bobby refused to abandon him.
Local residents were amazed tosee Bobby, even in the harshest
Edinburgh weather, loyallyguarding John Grey's resting
place.
Though the caretaker andgardener of the kirkyard tried
to run Bobby off several times,the persistent carrier always
returned.
Of the Kirkyard.
Tried to run Bobby off severaltimes, the persistent carrier
always returned Go Bobby.
Eventually, the caretaker builta structure, a bit of a shelter
(01:51):
, at the side of John Gray'sgrave.
And uh yeah, word of the loyalSky Carrier spread through
Edinburgh and said almost dailycrowds would gather to see Bobby
leave his master's grave onlyas the one o'clock gun sounded,
announcing his time for hismidday meal.
There was a cabinetmaker by thename of William Dow who would
(02:12):
lead Bobby to the same coffeeshop he and John Gray had
frequented, where a meal waitedfor him daily.
That's cool.
For 14 years after John Graypassed away, bobby would loyally
guard his grave again, only toleave for his midday meal.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That's amazing, that is that's a Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh, just you know.
We all know how loyal dogs are.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, that's a very, that's a heck of a testament to
that.
Yeah, um, they moved, like yousaid, as uh, in 1850 they moved
to edinburgh as, as he was agardener, ended up being a night
watchman for the police, whichyou know back in the day may
have been with your little club,walking around just making
showing your presence inneighborhoods, knocking on doors
, making sure shopkeepers arelocking up cool, you know, know
(03:05):
all that sort of thing.
The Sky Terrier he reminds meof you know a little lap dog-ish
, you know, like my dog Benson,you know so kind of like a
Yorkie or somewhere in that sizerange.
He's not.
That's why he's not veryintimidating.
Was spot on.
Size range.
(03:26):
He's not.
That's why he's not veryintimidating, was spot on.
But nonetheless I bet she wasfun to have coming along with
and kept him company, like dogsoften do.
I mean, obviously you gotboogie over there, he's your,
he's your bobby for show, rightwell, and I hope I'm not.
Yeah, sorry, I mean like he'syour homie, but yeah sorry damn
uh yeah, no, let's not talkabout that kind of shit.
(03:49):
Yeah, I know, and uh, it doesget pretty cold there in
edinburgh as well.
I mean, it's, it's very much so.
I don't know if it would bequite like one of your montana
winters there, my friend, butyou know the uk does have some
snow, so it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, just being an island in the North Atlantic,
yeah, not as north as some ofyour people's, but you know it's
still up there.
And yeah, just anyone who'sbeen near, like you know even
Southern California, at night itgets cold.
Oh yeah, when you're by thebeach it's just like, yeah,
stuff.
And I don't know the exactlocation of Edinburgh, I don't
(04:28):
know how close to the coast itis, but I know they fry
everything there to go on a foodtangent.
Of course, again, my people'sculinary, yeah, Other than fried
chicken, oh hell who knows.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Culinary skills are lacking yeah, no, yeah, other
than fried chicken, that's forsure I, I love that.
I mean you guys very much, oryou guys the scottish fried
twinkies and all sorts of stuff.
I'm sure whatever their versionof that would be over there.
I read something briefly on ithow they, they just they
literally do fry everything.
(05:05):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So yeah, slice of pizza, mars bars um yeah,
seriously everything.
But yeah, not to bash mypeople's cuisine again, but any
chance I can.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, yeah.
But they got some things right,like loyalty and Well, not so
much when they were all killingeach other and whatnot, trying
to be, uh, like they.
Man, there was a year inscottish history I think it's
still back when they called italba right where, uh, they went
through like six kings in oneyear.
(05:39):
I was just listening to someshit on that.
So at one point they weren't asloyal, but the dogs there
apparently very much so, and you, my friend, who has some
Scottish.
Well, I'm loyal to your clan youknow, oh yeah, there you go.
Okay, clan in the front, letyour feet stomp, owen.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Alright, yeah, nothing to do with the Ku Klux.
We're talking Scottish clanshere.
People or we're dead.
Both acceptable clans, not thatother one.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, no, hey.
On another side note of this,yes, this dog, the little, the
guy who built the littleenclosure for him, that's kind
of neat.
I love that because that reallyjust started it all off.
You know, after the he kepttrying to evict him or whatnot,
and the dog just kept comingback with you know he just would
(06:28):
not take no for an answer.
Whatever you want to fuckingsay, I don't know where I'm
going with this.
Nonetheless, it went on and onand they actually have a
fountain that they put up forGreat Fires, robbie, right there
by the cemetery, and that'spretty cool.
Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I right there by the cemetery and that's pretty cool.
Did you see that I did?
Yeah, and they have a sculptureof him.
Yeah, I don't know if it's donein bronze or but yeah, it
sounds like people visit itquite often and there was some
dispute, as there is like if anyheartwarming tale, there's
gotta be somebody.
That's like oh, I don't know ifit was exactly like this or
that, and it's just kinda likeit seems like tribute to him and
(07:10):
enough people saw that there'ssomething to this.
I mean, maybe often stuff getsexaggerated, as you've discussed
and whatever, but it's still.
This was clearly a dog that wasloyal to his long dead master
still, and people took note ofit.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I choose to just be like okay, let's look at the
goodness and not just have tolike right, I don't know, no,
pick it apart For real, bro.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
That's the thing.
Everybody wants to be.
Mr Negative, miss Negative,sleuth over there.
Why don't you fuckinginvestigate something real, all
right, something that'll helppeople, instead of tearing down
this heartwarming story ofGreyfriars Bobby?
All right, you know it isScotland's most famous dog, they
(07:57):
call it as well, and hisheadstone reads Greyfriars Bobby
died 14th January 1872, aged 16years.
Let his loyalty and devotion bea lesson to us all.
Alright, out there,podcastlandia.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh wow, I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, podcastlandia, it's wonderful I didn't see that
.
Yeah, podcastlandia, that'swonderful.
Listen to that, that's for real.
Yeah, no, it's pretty cool, man, I don't see any harm in
letting this story right out asit is.
I hope my dogs are that loyal.
I think they are.
They're pretty cool, exceptthey do try to get away
sometimes, but that's probablymore of a sign of I should take
(08:32):
them on more walks, I'm assuming.
So you know, it is what it is.
Terriers are a very loyal breedof dog.
I've never really ran into andI'm talking, I'm just like the
whole, you know Pitbull to SkyTerrier, they just are.
All terriers seems to be ourvery you know, it's a thing.
I don't know why people don'trecognize that more often.
(08:55):
Instead, they go buy chihuahuasand stuff like that.
I don't know who knows, but andno, no, knocking you chihuahua
owners out there.
Okay, guys, I've just never hada good experience with them.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
That's all okay, and I love dogs yeah, I know
somebody said, uh, and I was onthe one time customer at the
shop, but he's very happy tomeet boogie and he said you know
he had a dog and his commentwas everyone thinks they have
the best dog in the world andthey're right.
Yeah, and they are, althoughboogie is actually considered
(09:29):
like even people I know thathave dogs they love they're like
boogie's the best.
Yeah, but no, I just thoughtthat was really cool because
he's they're like Boogie's thebest dog there is.
Yeah, he's pretty, but no, Ijust thought that was really
cool because he's right, even ifit's some dog that no one else
likes.
If there's a bond between aperson and a dog, there's really
almost nothing like it, becauseit's just a different.
(09:50):
You know I have a lot of, I'mblessed with a lot of very good
people, um, but they can't justhop in the car and go with me
everywhere you know there's somany moving parts or a dog.
It's just sort of like, yeah,they're, you're their universe
and uh, I mean, that being said,if someone offered boogie, a
bacon cheeseburger or a walkwith me, we know which way he's
(10:12):
going.
Yes, but he probably just wolfit down and then go on the walk
Most likely.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So yes, I feel like that may be the actual answer to
that question.
You know, I was thinking aboutit just while you were talking
there and he did this GraveFriars.
Bobby sat at the grave,returned to the grave, whatever
happened, you know, slept there,obviously, stuff like that.
He did it for 14 years, theysay, and he was 16 years old.
(10:41):
So that means that he was onlywith his master for two years
and he developed that bond withhim to the extent to where he
just didn't want to let it go.
So that's intense.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'd like to see it is , is and that is.
I mean I'll never forget whenhe first brought boogie back to
the shantyplex garage and I meanI was like it sounds corny, but
pretty much my life changedlike instantly.
I just he sat on, sat over myshoulder and and he was shaking,
he was so young, scared to beaway from his mom, yeah, I got
(11:18):
it.
I was just like I instantlyknew, I was like there's a
connection here.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, it was meant to be Me and Nicole talked about
it the kids.
It definitely was supposed tobe your dog, my friend, that's
how I feel.
I received the dog and passedit on where it meant to be.
You know, it's the universe,guys.
It doesn't always work inmysterious ways, but sometimes
it does, and sometimes we noticeit and sometimes we don't.
(11:44):
I don't know.
Take that how you want it.
I hope it confuses everybodyout there, but nonetheless, it
was definitely a meant to besituation and that is how common
in life most our relationshipsare.
Just like that, it seems.
You know, and they're oftenwhen you're not looking for them
as well.
That goes for friends or youknow partners and all these
(12:07):
things and dogs, right, so yeah,go I.
I say good job.
What would they say over therein Scotland?
I agree, friars, bobby, I don'tthink that's right, but Say
something you couldn'tunderstand.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, I mean even in England.
Honestly, I felt bad.
I had trouble.
There's a waiter and it's sinceclosed, sadly, but there's a
place that's called oh, what wasit?
Oh no, it was something likeHillbilly sounding, but I don't
know.
This story's going nowhere.
(12:46):
Oh, you want to say you don'twant to put it in Excuse?
me, oh you want to say you don'twant to put it in, it's an
add-on to this, and what hewould say was like for dessert,
sticky toffee pudding was thenational dish, but I would have
had an easier time understandingMandarin Chinese.
And then you go north intoScotland and they're even harder
(13:08):
to.
I mean, it sounds like I don'teven.
It sounds like words were notinvented.
They're just kind of likegrunts and blah, blah, blah,
right.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, it's like I feel like most people in the US
see the UK in general Like youknow, england is just London,
you know, and how people areover there, like one of those
shows that you see on TV, theDownton Abbey or whatever.
It is stuff like that, you know.
So they think it's like that.
And then, when it comes toScotland and Ireland, I think
(13:37):
they just kind of think they'reall leprechaun sounding, you
know.
They don't realize these peopleare like there's a lot of
different like Welsh people,even though they're within
England.
They're very different.
Right, is Wales actually, arethey in the UK?
Right, see, this is how bad weare, yeah definitely in the UK.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's to the south, where Scotland's to the north of
England.
I'm not 100% clear on how the Iknow Scotland finally got
independence in 1999.
Yeah, I am unclear how it workswith Wales.
I'm really pretty uneducatedabout my people's island.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, but there's a lot going on there yeah my
name's Welsh.
There's a lot going on there.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, for such a little.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, well, and here's the thing is, you know,
and then also, as Americans,like you know, our UK listeners
are like probably thinking we'refucking idiots, you know.
They probably think it's funnythat we don't know anything.
I don't know who knows, butnonetheless, Wales and the Welsh
people are very different.
There is like a whole separatedeal, like Scotland and all
(14:42):
these things you know, and Idon't think that anybody would
put that together so much andit's it's it's even more
distinct.
No-transcript.
You know, there's a lot of thatdown there, but also there.
(15:03):
Uh, you know, all thesedifferent regions in the united
states are so different, but youcould amplify that like by at
least a hundred and then applythat to all these regions.
Uh, in the uk, you know,because there's so much history
there, we're, we're still prettytransplanty over here, whereas,
um, but yeah, it's verydifferent, they're whole
different fucking people's guysJust saying and let me just say
(15:27):
I have met multiple educatedpeople from the South.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I have several friends that are wonderful
people from the South that saidthey're more rednecks in Montana
than they are in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh my God, yeah, well , georgia's a little different.
Atlanta is a mecca.
You know what I'm saying.
Like there's a yeah, you'reright.
I mean you could go into hillsin Georgia and I'm sure you'd
find some weird stuff, but Iwould assume more Like that's
why I use Bama as my example, orlike Arkansas would be the best
, probably, I feel, maybe, Idon't know I mean there's still,
(16:03):
I'm sure, so many wonderfulpeople, wonderful places.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, of course, that is again just the people that
are on the like negative, orjust my shit's the best, and
you've never been anywhere, andit's kind of like you know, why
don't you go go somewhere youthink you might not like?
Even yeah, just check it out,talk to something that doesn't
have the same opinion as you.
It might, yeah, might, learnsomething.
So we're not here.
Basically, I have to say we'renot here to trash any part of,
(16:30):
oh, any part of the world?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
oh, I am for sure.
No, I'm just joking like no,yeah, thanks for saving that,
bro, because I wasn't trying togo off on mr negative there
either.
You know, it's just how ithappened.
But uh, yeah, apparentlyscotland has some Scotland has
some amazingly loyal dogs.
There's actually some, I feel.
The Scottish death of the FairFolk Like you know how we have
(16:55):
death, obviously, and he's withhis sickle and all these things
Well, there's a from the oldCeltic beliefs there's their
death is like a dog, I guess,and he's a green dog, I think.
I don't know.
I was looking up into that.
I think we were going to do aHalloween episode on it and they
also have a pretty crazy otterover there that has to do with
(17:16):
all that mess.
Maybe we'll have to get intosome fairy folklore eventually.
I don't know.
The fair folk are pretty crazy,man Just saying but yeah, go
Scottish dogs and you know friedchicken, right?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, oh, and I can't remember if we mentioned this,
I just recently learned thatBraveheart was not William
Wallace's nickname, but Robertthe Bruce.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
But it was a catchier deal.
So yeah, and we must revisitthe horrible allegedly William
Wallace statue.
Oh my God, it looks like MelGibson.
So bad that almost put on aDonald Trump-owned golf course.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's where it belongs, that piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
That is.
I hate to trash artwork, butI'm very proud of my.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That is the worst thing.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Hey, you know what that wasn't artwork that was an
affront to humanity, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And it wasn't your Scottish people who, like, did
that.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It was some American guy, you know, or something,
wasn't it, yeah, and then theysaid like they had to put cages
around it because the scots werethe most low artwork yeah, yeah
, they call it the most lowartwork in scotland at one point
in time, or something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, william, that that braveheart
movie, anything mel gibsontouches is fucking crap.
I don't give a shit, likethere's always so much, it's
just whatever fits his littleweird racist Christian ideals, I
guess, is what he does.
But yeah, robert the Bruce is awhole different deal, guys.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Man Kicking the canology todayon I Tell Stories, and you know,
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Speaker 1 (19:37):
Last week A wonderful woman, heather, who works for
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and was very happy to meetBoogie and happy to see all the
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(19:59):
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Amazing.
That's cool.
Hey, real quick, here's ashameless plug, but also just a
thank you to Heather and theBillingbirds.
That's great yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I love that Real quick.
Since we were talking aboutGreyfriars Bobby, we should get
some more info in on that.
I feel In 1867 in Edinburgh anew bylaw was passed that
required all dogs to be licensedin the city or they would be
destroyed.
Apparently, sir WilliamChambers, the Lord Provost of
Edinburgh I don't know what thatis and I probably pronounced
(20:44):
the provost thing wrong, I don'tknow decided to pay Bobby's
license and presented him with acollar with a brass inscription
that said Gravefriars Bobbyfrom the Lord Provost, 1867
Licensed, and this can be seenat the Museum of Edinburgh as
well.
So that's a thing that's prettycool.
I mean, that's probably wherehis nickname took over.
(21:06):
There was when that lord likedid that, did a very lordly act,
I guess I don't know something.
So there's our gray friarsbobby episode.
People, I thanks man, youbrought it to my attention.
I didn't know about this story.
Yet again, another gem from gemfrom Owen McMichael, the Mick
himself.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Wow from the universe .
I just happened to catch thewind of it and thought we should
discuss it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Well, it's like you've seen the fruit ripen, you
plucked it and you put it onthe show.
All right, let's go.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So, hey, everybody out there in Podcastlandia, I
hope you're having a great dayand a good holiday season.
Indeed, happy Festivus.
We are actually two weeks fromFestivus 2024.
Yeah, Much love everybody.
Thanks for watching.
Oh, hey, hola Como esta.
Hey, how's it going today, onthis fine winter?
Or we're creeping up intoChristmas, which is, you know,
an exciting and scary time ofyear being, as the year's the
crampus is Santa, and we're nottalking about that today.
We're going to talk aboutsomething that's a little
(00:23):
different and it's kind of oddly, I feel, like a very Owen
episode.
Well, not even oddly, becauseyou know, it's about Scottish
history of sorts, and also it'sabout dogs, and that's very much
our friend here, owen, the MickMcMichael, do you want to lead
us into this, my friend?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, this is the story of John Gray and Gray
Friars.
Bobby, oh nice, a Sky Terrier.
In 1850, john Gray became anight watchman for the Edinburgh
police.
The nights were long,particularly in the winter, and
eventually, in 1855, john wouldtake on a partner.
A loyal and tenacious SkyTerrier named Bobby was
faithfully by John's side as hewalked his beat.
(01:04):
Referred to as a watchdog,while Bobby's appearance was
less than intimidating, hiscompany was indispensable.
The pair were well known to thepeople of Edinburgh and, no
matter the weather, they couldbe seen walking the cobblestone
streets together.
Sadly, john developedtuberculosis and, despite the
efforts of a police surgeon, hepassed away February 15, 1858.
Despite the efforts of thepolice surgeon, he passed away
(01:26):
February 15, 1858.
With his master laid to rest inGreyfriars' kirkyard.
Bobby refused to abandon him.
Local residents were amazed tosee Bobby, even in the harshest
Edinburgh weather, loyallyguarding John Grey's resting
place.
Though the caretaker andgardener of the kirkyard tried
to run Bobby off several times,the persistent carrier always
returned.
Of the Kirkyard.
Tried to run Bobby off severaltimes, the persistent carrier
always returned Go Bobby.
Eventually, the caretaker builta structure, a bit of a shelter
(01:51):
, at the side of John Gray'sgrave.
And uh yeah, word of the loyalSky Carrier spread through
Edinburgh and said almost dailycrowds would gather to see Bobby
leave his master's grave onlyas the one o'clock gun sounded,
announcing his time for hismidday meal.
There was a cabinetmaker by thename of William Dow who would
(02:12):
lead Bobby to the same coffeeshop he and John Gray had
frequented, where a meal waitedfor him daily.
That's cool.
For 14 years after John Graypassed away, bobby would loyally
guard his grave again, only toleave for his midday meal.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That's amazing, that is that's a Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh, just you know.
We all know how loyal dogs are.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, that's a very, that's a heck of a testament to
that.
Yeah, um, they moved, like yousaid, as uh, in 1850 they moved
to edinburgh as, as he was agardener, ended up being a night
watchman for the police, whichyou know back in the day may
have been with your little club,walking around just making
showing your presence inneighborhoods, knocking on doors
, making sure shopkeepers arelocking up cool, you know, know
(03:05):
all that sort of thing.
The Sky Terrier he reminds meof you know a little lap dog-ish
, you know, like my dog Benson,you know so kind of like a
Yorkie or somewhere in that sizerange.
He's not.
That's why he's not veryintimidating.
Was spot on.
Size range.
(03:26):
He's not.
That's why he's not veryintimidating, was spot on.
But nonetheless I bet she wasfun to have coming along with
and kept him company, like dogsoften do.
I mean, obviously you gotboogie over there, he's your,
he's your bobby for show, rightwell, and I hope I'm not.
Yeah, sorry, I mean like he'syour homie, but yeah sorry damn
uh yeah, no, let's not talkabout that kind of shit.
(03:49):
Yeah, I know, and uh, it doesget pretty cold there in
edinburgh as well.
I mean, it's, it's very much so.
I don't know if it would bequite like one of your montana
winters there, my friend, butyou know the uk does have some
snow, so it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, just being an island in the North Atlantic,
yeah, not as north as some ofyour people's, but you know it's
still up there.
And yeah, just anyone who'sbeen near, like you know even
Southern California, at night itgets cold.
Oh yeah, when you're by thebeach it's just like, yeah,
stuff.
And I don't know the exactlocation of Edinburgh, I don't
(04:28):
know how close to the coast itis, but I know they fry
everything there to go on a foodtangent.
Of course, again, my people'sculinary, yeah, Other than fried
chicken, oh hell who knows.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Culinary skills are lacking yeah, no, yeah, other
than fried chicken, that's forsure I, I love that.
I mean you guys very much, oryou guys the scottish fried
twinkies and all sorts of stuff.
I'm sure whatever their versionof that would be over there.
I read something briefly on ithow they, they just they
literally do fry everything.
(05:05):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So yeah, slice of pizza, mars bars um yeah,
seriously everything.
But yeah, not to bash mypeople's cuisine again, but any
chance I can.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, yeah.
But they got some things right,like loyalty and Well, not so
much when they were all killingeach other and whatnot, trying
to be, uh, like they.
Man, there was a year inscottish history I think it's
still back when they called italba right where, uh, they went
through like six kings in oneyear.
(05:39):
I was just listening to someshit on that.
So at one point they weren't asloyal, but the dogs there
apparently very much so, and you, my friend, who has some
Scottish.
Well, I'm loyal to your clan youknow, oh yeah, there you go.
Okay, clan in the front, letyour feet stomp, owen.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Alright, yeah, nothing to do with the Ku Klux.
We're talking Scottish clanshere.
People or we're dead.
Both acceptable clans, not thatother one.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, no, hey.
On another side note of this,yes, this dog, the little, the
guy who built the littleenclosure for him, that's kind
of neat.
I love that because that reallyjust started it all off.
You know, after the he kepttrying to evict him or whatnot,
and the dog just kept comingback with you know he just would
(06:28):
not take no for an answer.
Whatever you want to fuckingsay, I don't know where I'm
going with this.
Nonetheless, it went on and onand they actually have a
fountain that they put up forGreat Fires, robbie, right there
by the cemetery, and that'spretty cool.
Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I right there by the cemetery and that's pretty cool.
Did you see that I did?
Yeah, and they have a sculptureof him.
Yeah, I don't know if it's donein bronze or but yeah, it
sounds like people visit itquite often and there was some
dispute, as there is like if anyheartwarming tale, there's
gotta be somebody.
That's like oh, I don't know ifit was exactly like this or
that, and it's just kinda likeit seems like tribute to him and
(07:10):
enough people saw that there'ssomething to this.
I mean, maybe often stuff getsexaggerated, as you've discussed
and whatever, but it's still.
This was clearly a dog that wasloyal to his long dead master
still, and people took note ofit.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I choose to just be like okay, let's look at the
goodness and not just have tolike right, I don't know, no,
pick it apart For real, bro.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
That's the thing.
Everybody wants to be.
Mr Negative, miss Negative,sleuth over there.
Why don't you fuckinginvestigate something real, all
right, something that'll helppeople, instead of tearing down
this heartwarming story ofGreyfriars Bobby?
All right, you know it isScotland's most famous dog, they
(07:57):
call it as well, and hisheadstone reads Greyfriars Bobby
died 14th January 1872, aged 16years.
Let his loyalty and devotion bea lesson to us all.
Alright, out there,podcastlandia.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh wow, I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, podcastlandia, it's wonderful I didn't see that
.
Yeah, podcastlandia, that'swonderful.
Listen to that, that's for real.
Yeah, no, it's pretty cool, man, I don't see any harm in
letting this story right out asit is.
I hope my dogs are that loyal.
I think they are.
They're pretty cool, exceptthey do try to get away
sometimes, but that's probablymore of a sign of I should take
(08:32):
them on more walks, I'm assuming.
So you know, it is what it is.
Terriers are a very loyal breedof dog.
I've never really ran into andI'm talking, I'm just like the
whole, you know Pitbull to SkyTerrier, they just are.
All terriers seems to be ourvery you know, it's a thing.
I don't know why people don'trecognize that more often.
(08:55):
Instead, they go buy chihuahuasand stuff like that.
I don't know who knows, but andno, no, knocking you chihuahua
owners out there.
Okay, guys, I've just never hada good experience with them.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
That's all okay, and I love dogs yeah, I know
somebody said, uh, and I was onthe one time customer at the
shop, but he's very happy tomeet boogie and he said you know
he had a dog and his commentwas everyone thinks they have
the best dog in the world andthey're right.
Yeah, and they are, althoughboogie is actually considered
(09:29):
like even people I know thathave dogs they love they're like
boogie's the best.
Yeah, but no, I just thoughtthat was really cool because
he's they're like Boogie's thebest dog there is.
Yeah, he's pretty, but no, Ijust thought that was really
cool because he's right, even ifit's some dog that no one else
likes.
If there's a bond between aperson and a dog, there's really
almost nothing like it, becauseit's just a different.
(09:50):
You know I have a lot of, I'mblessed with a lot of very good
people, um, but they can't justhop in the car and go with me
everywhere you know there's somany moving parts or a dog.
It's just sort of like, yeah,they're, you're their universe
and uh, I mean, that being said,if someone offered boogie, a
bacon cheeseburger or a walkwith me, we know which way he's
(10:12):
going.
Yes, but he probably just wolfit down and then go on the walk
Most likely.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So yes, I feel like that may be the actual answer to
that question.
You know, I was thinking aboutit just while you were talking
there and he did this GraveFriars.
Bobby sat at the grave,returned to the grave, whatever
happened, you know, slept there,obviously, stuff like that.
He did it for 14 years, theysay, and he was 16 years old.
(10:41):
So that means that he was onlywith his master for two years
and he developed that bond withhim to the extent to where he
just didn't want to let it go.
So that's intense.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'd like to see it is , is and that is.
I mean I'll never forget whenhe first brought boogie back to
the shantyplex garage and I meanI was like it sounds corny, but
pretty much my life changedlike instantly.
I just he sat on, sat over myshoulder and and he was shaking,
he was so young, scared to beaway from his mom, yeah, I got
(11:18):
it.
I was just like I instantlyknew, I was like there's a
connection here.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, it was meant to be Me and Nicole talked about
it the kids.
It definitely was supposed tobe your dog, my friend, that's
how I feel.
I received the dog and passedit on where it meant to be.
You know, it's the universe,guys.
It doesn't always work inmysterious ways, but sometimes
it does, and sometimes we noticeit and sometimes we don't.
(11:44):
I don't know.
Take that how you want it.
I hope it confuses everybodyout there, but nonetheless, it
was definitely a meant to besituation and that is how common
in life most our relationshipsare.
Just like that, it seems.
You know, and they're oftenwhen you're not looking for them
as well.
That goes for friends or youknow partners and all these
(12:07):
things and dogs, right, so yeah,go I.
I say good job.
What would they say over therein Scotland?
I agree, friars, bobby, I don'tthink that's right, but Say
something you couldn'tunderstand.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, I mean even in England.
Honestly, I felt bad.
I had trouble.
There's a waiter and it's sinceclosed, sadly, but there's a
place that's called oh, what wasit?
Oh no, it was something likeHillbilly sounding, but I don't
know.
This story's going nowhere.
(12:46):
Oh, you want to say you don'twant to put it in Excuse?
me, oh you want to say you don'twant to put it in, it's an
add-on to this, and what hewould say was like for dessert,
sticky toffee pudding was thenational dish, but I would have
had an easier time understandingMandarin Chinese.
And then you go north intoScotland and they're even harder
(13:08):
to.
I mean, it sounds like I don'teven.
It sounds like words were notinvented.
They're just kind of likegrunts and blah, blah, blah,
right.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, it's like I feel like most people in the US
see the UK in general Like youknow, england is just London,
you know, and how people areover there, like one of those
shows that you see on TV, theDownton Abbey or whatever.
It is stuff like that, you know.
So they think it's like that.
And then, when it comes toScotland and Ireland, I think
(13:37):
they just kind of think they'reall leprechaun sounding, you
know.
They don't realize these peopleare like there's a lot of
different like Welsh people,even though they're within
England.
They're very different.
Right, is Wales actually, arethey in the UK?
Right, see, this is how bad weare, yeah definitely in the UK.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's to the south, where Scotland's to the north of
England.
I'm not 100% clear on how the Iknow Scotland finally got
independence in 1999.
Yeah, I am unclear how it workswith Wales.
I'm really pretty uneducatedabout my people's island.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, but there's a lot going on there yeah my
name's Welsh.
There's a lot going on there.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, for such a little.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, well, and here's the thing is, you know,
and then also, as Americans,like you know, our UK listeners
are like probably thinking we'refucking idiots, you know.
They probably think it's funnythat we don't know anything.
I don't know who knows, butnonetheless, Wales and the Welsh
people are very different.
There is like a whole separatedeal, like Scotland and all
(14:42):
these things you know, and Idon't think that anybody would
put that together so much andit's it's it's even more
distinct.
No-transcript.
You know, there's a lot of thatdown there, but also there.
(15:03):
Uh, you know, all thesedifferent regions in the united
states are so different, but youcould amplify that like by at
least a hundred and then applythat to all these regions.
Uh, in the uk, you know,because there's so much history
there, we're, we're still prettytransplanty over here, whereas,
um, but yeah, it's verydifferent, they're whole
different fucking people's guysJust saying and let me just say
(15:27):
I have met multiple educatedpeople from the South.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I have several friends that are wonderful
people from the South that saidthey're more rednecks in Montana
than they are in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh my God, yeah, well , georgia's a little different.
Atlanta is a mecca.
You know what I'm saying.
Like there's a yeah, you'reright.
I mean you could go into hillsin Georgia and I'm sure you'd
find some weird stuff, but Iwould assume more Like that's
why I use Bama as my example, orlike Arkansas would be the best
, probably, I feel, maybe, Idon't know I mean there's still,
(16:03):
I'm sure, so many wonderfulpeople, wonderful places.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, of course, that is again just the people that
are on the like negative, orjust my shit's the best, and
you've never been anywhere, andit's kind of like you know, why
don't you go go somewhere youthink you might not like?
Even yeah, just check it out,talk to something that doesn't
have the same opinion as you.
It might, yeah, might, learnsomething.
So we're not here.
Basically, I have to say we'renot here to trash any part of,
(16:30):
oh, any part of the world?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
oh, I am for sure.
No, I'm just joking like no,yeah, thanks for saving that,
bro, because I wasn't trying togo off on mr negative there
either.
You know, it's just how ithappened.
But uh, yeah, apparentlyscotland has some Scotland has
some amazingly loyal dogs.
There's actually some, I feel.
The Scottish death of the FairFolk Like you know how we have
(16:55):
death, obviously, and he's withhis sickle and all these things
Well, there's a from the oldCeltic beliefs there's their
death is like a dog, I guess,and he's a green dog, I think.
I don't know.
I was looking up into that.
I think we were going to do aHalloween episode on it and they
also have a pretty crazy otterover there that has to do with
(17:16):
all that mess.
Maybe we'll have to get intosome fairy folklore eventually.
I don't know.
The fair folk are pretty crazy,man Just saying but yeah, go
Scottish dogs and you know friedchicken, right?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, oh, and I can't remember if we mentioned this,
I just recently learned thatBraveheart was not William
Wallace's nickname, but Robertthe Bruce.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
But it was a catchier deal.
So yeah, and we must revisitthe horrible allegedly William
Wallace statue.
Oh my God, it looks like MelGibson.
So bad that almost put on aDonald Trump-owned golf course.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's where it belongs, that piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
That is.
I hate to trash artwork, butI'm very proud of my.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That is the worst thing.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Hey, you know what that wasn't artwork that was an
affront to humanity, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And it wasn't your Scottish people who, like, did
that.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It was some American guy, you know, or something,
wasn't it, yeah, and then theysaid like they had to put cages
around it because the scots werethe most low artwork yeah, yeah
, they call it the most lowartwork in scotland at one point
in time, or something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, william, that that braveheart
movie, anything mel gibsontouches is fucking crap.
I don't give a shit, likethere's always so much, it's
just whatever fits his littleweird racist Christian ideals, I
guess, is what he does.
But yeah, robert the Bruce is awhole different deal, guys.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Man Kicking the canology todayon I Tell Stories, and you know,
(19:01):
if you want to subscribe tothis show, that'd be great.
We just use it for things thatdo with the show at this point.
We do plan on putting up someextra content.
Eventually there should be alink within the show notes that
can get you there Pretty easy.
Also, if you want to check outsome shirts, you know we got
some I Tell Stories shirts atpitlocksupplycom.
And if you're in BillingsMontana you can stop by Cold
(19:24):
Smoke Boogie's Bodega on FirstAvenue North.
You can go ahead and rattle offthe whole address if you want,
but it's on the north side,pretty much people 1802 First
Avenue North and Boogie's fameactually grew.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Last week A wonderful woman, heather, who works for
Billings Bird that's anon-profit sort of just
promoting revitalization ofdowntown Billings she came in
and was very happy to meetBoogie and happy to see all the
pasta and cheese and she took abunch of pictures and made some
nice posts and just a really,really nice.
(19:59):
I can't understate how kind andgenuine Her excitement about
the dog and what we had going onin there was.
Amazing.
That's cool.
Hey, real quick, here's ashameless plug, but also just a
thank you to Heather and theBillingbirds.
That's great yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I love that Real quick.
Since we were talking aboutGreyfriars Bobby, we should get
some more info in on that.
I feel In 1867 in Edinburgh anew bylaw was passed that
required all dogs to be licensedin the city or they would be
destroyed.
Apparently, sir WilliamChambers, the Lord Provost of
Edinburgh I don't know what thatis and I probably pronounced
(20:44):
the provost thing wrong, I don'tknow decided to pay Bobby's
license and presented him with acollar with a brass inscription
that said Gravefriars Bobbyfrom the Lord Provost, 1867
Licensed, and this can be seenat the Museum of Edinburgh as
well.
So that's a thing that's prettycool.
I mean, that's probably wherehis nickname took over.
(21:06):
There was when that lord likedid that, did a very lordly act,
I guess I don't know something.
So there's our gray friarsbobby episode.
People, I thanks man, youbrought it to my attention.
I didn't know about this story.
Yet again, another gem from gemfrom Owen McMichael, the Mick
himself.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Wow from the universe .
I just happened to catch thewind of it and thought we should
discuss it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Well, it's like you've seen the fruit ripen, you
plucked it and you put it onthe show.
All right, let's go.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So, hey, everybody out there in Podcastlandia, I
hope you're having a great dayand a good holiday season.
Indeed, happy Festivus.
We are actually two weeks fromFestivus 2024.
Yeah, Much love everybody.
Thanks for watching.
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