November 19, 2024 • 31 mins
Ever wondered how cannabis strains like Brazilian and Chocolate Thai maintain their genetic purity despite the modern surge of hybrids? Join us as we embark on a captivating exploration of landrace strains, tracing their roots from the rugged mountains of the Hindu Kush to the sun-drenched shores of Acapulco Gold. Through personal stories of unforgettable adventures inspired by these rare strains, we illuminate the historical significance and allure of cannabis that has stood the test of time.
Picture pirates navigating treacherous seas—many of whom couldn't swim—and discover intriguing parallels between their storied lives and the world of cannabis strains like Durban Poison and Colombian Gold. Our conversation takes a turn towards the cultural evolution and historical baggage of terms like "marijuana," with a candid reflection on how societal views on cannabis and its comparison with alcohol have transformed. Personal anecdotes about past drug use serve as a backdrop for the importance of honest dialogue, especially when addressing misconceptions surrounding cannabis.
As the episode unfolds, we spotlight the therapeutic potential of cannabis, particularly for those grappling with PTSD, and the rise of CBD as a non-psychoactive option. We also don't shy away from addressing the challenges in the cannabis industry, including high taxation and outdated laws, particularly those in Idaho. Through humor and sincerity, we confront racial biases while keeping the conversation light-hearted, speculating on whether our podcast is more popular in Serbia than in Idaho. Join our journey and share your thoughts on this evolving landscape as we weave positive vibes into our narrative.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
uh, hey, what's up?
My friend, I hope this isfinding you in in a good mode,
as we were going to be speakingabout something we we know very
well.
You know just some of thismarijuana shop talk, but in a
real form episode, my friend,right, well, cannabis.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Okay, thank you, as marijuana was a term.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, indeed, andyeah, talking about land races,
which, for as long as betweenthe two of us, we have consumed
cannabis and we were having adiscussion about how we heard
the term but didn't really knowmuch about it, no, couldn't, at
(00:38):
least I couldn't.
If you asked me to define, Iwould say I don't know because I
don't.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know enoughto even kind of, uh, right,
yeah, get started.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So it's interesting to uh find out exactly what that
means right and I feel likewe're not alone in this, as we
know some other people that youwould you had brought up front
of the show spooner.
He had no clue and he, he doesgrow and, uh, me and you both
I'm not saying we're unique tothe situation in America, but we
both know people who operatelarge-scale grows and have since
(01:10):
the beginning of like thelegalization you know in a lot
of these states and as much asthe dirt.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm just, let me just say, to spoon it.
I think he may know more than Ido.
I just mentioned to him that wewere gonna do this, is all.
Yeah, he probably knows a lotmore than I do.
So not not mentioned to himthat we were going to do this,
is all.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, he probably knows a lot more than I do.
So not not trying to discreditSpooner that's a hell of a name,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, I know, I was just saying that.
Yeah, he didn't.
He just said he's excited thatwe were going to do the topic.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, for sure, man, and it's just one of those
things where you hear the term alot.
I've been in shops wherethey'll toss it around and stuff
and everybody has a blankfucking look on their face.
For the most part, you know,and I've been consuming cannabis
since I was around 11 or 12 andI'm 42 now I'm old and I had no
(01:56):
clue until we talked about thisand looked it up on Google.
Guys, just saying so.
Nonetheless, my friend, on thisfantastic, uh, this feels like
kind of a racy episode.
I don't know who knows, but, uh, I'm gonna go ahead and give
you a definition that I kind offound real fast here.
Uh, a land race is adomesticated, locally adapted,
(02:17):
often traditional, variety of aspecies of animal or plant that
is developed over time so it canbe whatever it's, a it's like a
blanket term, which I didn'tknow that either, by the way
Through adaptation to itsnatural and cultural environment
of agriculture and pastoralism.
Ah, all right.
So here's some things.
A lot of this has to do withisolated location like islands,
mountains, etc.
(02:38):
Right?
Or maybe a place where it'shard for us dumb humans to get
to and change everything, right?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's hard for us dumb humans to get to and change
everything, right?
Yeah, because essentially, justif I had to give a broad
overview of what a landrace is,it's genetically unaltered, as
most everything we smokenowadays is like a hybrid.
These were all just as MotherNature created them.
I tried some of the exampleshindu kush remember that was one
(03:08):
of the first strange names yeah, that's the tie.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, hindu kush was said to be the first one that
was defined as a land race andactually where a lot of this
comes from.
Most of my information, uh,came from leafwellcom.
It was one of the best sourcesI had found on it and just
wanted to drop that foreverybody.
So, if you want to look it upyourselves, uh, there are
reportedly more than 30land-raised strains, which I
(03:35):
feel like there's probably morethan that.
Uh, that's across the globecentral asia, central south asia
, the middle east, central,central South Asia, the Middle
East, central and South America,and Africa are the places where
the cannabis land-raisedstrains come from, right.
So these are things we foundout, owen, and, as you mentioned
(03:55):
, the Hindu Kush, I want to juststart off like let's fucking
start this off strong.
Which of the land-raisedstrains that you had researched
or seen in this process are yourfavorite?
Let's go with number one andtwo, if possible.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, also they were found in the Americas, because
there's Acapulco Gold and Panama.
Brazilian I'd say Brazilianmight be my favorite.
I was a kid, I was probably 16,and I'm 45 now, so I'm even
older.
I was a kid, you know, I wasprobably 16 and I'm 45 now, so
I'm even older.
But yeah, brazilian I rememberbeing.
(04:29):
The Hindu Kush was also.
I haven't disliked any of them,but no, okay, I'm sorry, the
Thai chocolate Thai.
If that's actually the originalLandre's, that would be my
favorite, which also anybodythat has the stereotype of lazy
stoners.
Observe someone that smokeschocolate Thai.
(04:51):
I once went for a walk aftersmoking some and realized I was
an hour and a half away from thehouse and had to get home.
Oh my God, which is fine.
The dog and I are much younger.
Correct, he at least could drinkout of the river.
I opted to just have cottonmouth all the way home, right,
anyway, yeah, so sorry that wasa long-winded, stumbling answer,
(05:14):
but chocolate tie is myfavorite.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, considering we're, you know, trying to talk
on a podcast about cannabis, Ithink any long-winded answer may
be okay.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Owen, my uh A podcast Ho ho, ho, ho ho.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Hey, hi, dad joke.
Yeah, for sure that soundsgreat to me, my friend.
Hey, you know, my favoriteland-raised strain is the sativa
because, as you know, I'm a bigsativa fan.
Okay, and that would be theMalawi gold, which is actually
from the country Malawi.
The more you know, owen, that'sa great one.
Also big fan of Durban poison.
(05:53):
I know it's a hit or miss man,because I don't feel that with
some of these people, you know,sometimes they don't come out
quite right or maybe they rushedit or something.
But when you get some of theseland land ray strains like this
that are the ogs of sorts, rightman, when they do them right,
it is amazing.
That's how I feel about it.
The uh.
(06:14):
The other thing I was point Iwas uh pretty interested in here
is the differences in some oflike this.
You, we know how sativas arefar different.
So land-raised sativa strainsare usually taller and they're a
bit harder to grow, so they'realso more rare in that case, as
they cost so much to get done.
(06:34):
You know, most of these guyswho have developed a lot of
these hybrids mix them in theseindicas and such with these
sativa strains in order to havea bigger yield and that's what's
kind of diluted it I thinkright, I mean I wouldn't say
diluted it, it's, it'sdefinitely made it a bigger
(06:55):
yield, but uh, yeah, diluted thepure sativa.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
But um yeah, I have nothing against hybrids, it's
just it's cool that there'sstill the land race strains to
be found Stuff that wasn'taltered.
You know there's still graywolves, like look at all the
genetic stuff humans have doneto dogs.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
No, that's fucking.
I think there's still there, isthere's no longer dire wolves.
Of course, those are massivewolves that used to run around
Europe and probably were prettyfreaking scary.
They're about as big as a horse, I think.
I don't know when they died out, but I think they're the size
of timber wolves, which is huge.
But Well, when we're talkingold school horses like the ones
that the knights used to ride on, you know what I'm saying.
(07:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah old school Peopledon't know that either.
Hey, knights used to rideponies, guys.
So whenever you see a Disneycartoon and they're on this big
steed, not the case, guys.
They were dragging their feetFor real.
That's a thing.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
More like something that should be at a petting zoo
than on a battlefield.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, well, as the BHP, the British History Podcast
, which I often plug noaffiliation, by the way, just a
great show.
He often Street Podcast, whichI often plug no affiliation, by
the way, just a great show.
He often calls whatever theywrote Glitter Hoof.
As he was writing Glitter Hoofinto battle, I'm like, oh my god
, thank you.
Thank you, jamie Jeffers.
Yeah, I wonder if he enjoyscannabis, I imagine.
(08:19):
So I don't know, he seems likehe may, I don't know.
Durban Poison, which I broughtup earlier, is one of the
marijuana markets mostwell-known.
It does hail from South Africanport city of Durban, which is
kind of cool and is dated backto the 14th century.
A lot of these strains as wellmy friends spread due to the aid
(08:39):
to sale and piracy, becausepirates were well-known to use
drugs of all kinds.
Right, I mean, that's kind of acommon knowledge thing, I would
think.
Do you think it is?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay, I wouldn't be shocking, Iwouldn't think someone would be
like oh my God, you know.
Yeah, I thought they were achoir boy Right.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So in a lot of them, you know, when they did this
stuff they acquired it from theMuslim world and then they
headed on over to, you know,south America and spread the
love.
I suppose I imagine they hadquite a bit of cannabis on their
voyages.
That's a pretty cool thought tothink of.
You know, pirates cruising openseas, you know, looking for
some prizes, smoking some Durbanpoison.
(09:21):
That's badass, my friend.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So some of the.
Would you get all antsy on theboat though smoking a beer?
I went for a swim.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh no, fun fact a lot of times when I read about
pirate stories most, oh no, Funfact a lot of times when I read
about pirate stories most ofthese guys couldn't even really
swim.
Isn't that kind of scary?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It's a weird thing, I thought.
I mean, I guess if you fall offin the middle of the ocean,
you're done.
Don't care how well you swim,doesn't matter.
There's a lot looking at us.
No, a lot of sharks Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
No, a lot of sharks.
No, no, that doesn't seem fun atall, so I don't know.
I do enjoy that Columbian goldyou said was another one, I
believe.
I wonder if that's acombination there, Because you
see the Acapulco gold, Columbiangold.
There must be something there.
They're both from SouthAmerica-ish because Acapulco
(10:15):
actually is native to Mexico.
I'm so interested in theseSouth American strains and how
this all worked out.
That is fantastic.
The Thai landrace strain is apure sativa and is known to be
very tall, with many branchesand long serrated fan leaves.
So I can just imagine back inthe day I'm going to lean back
on pirates, guys Like they'regoing to go into this Mughal
(10:36):
Empire Emperor's palace and Icould just see him being fanned
with the mighty leaf of a Thaiplant.
That'd be a thing.
I don't know.
How much knowledge are we goingto kick on this, besides the
fact that we actually just saidwhat land race really means and
then we can just talk about allour favorite kinds of marijuana
(10:57):
that apply, I feel.
Once again cannabis, but yeah,not marijuana.
That's a racist term, guys.
We just never realized it.
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It was attached to blame it on Mexicans, and black
jazz musicians were alsoincluded in the like it's their
fault.
That's why this is bad Likeyeah, they're trying to keep
everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, it really the term, the term comes from when
Mexico first became a country,ok, and it was kind of on their
own to an extent, I suppose, andthey really still hated the
indigenous people, even thoughmost of them were mixed Right.
So it was a very classic systemof the more Spanish, or the
whiter your skin, the better offyou were in this culture.
(11:40):
So, as with our culture,typically the soldiers in the
wars that they were fightingwere indigenous, very common to
a lot of us Like.
So here in America, a lot ofthe people we send to the front
lines are, are, are of, are of,you know, mexican or something
like that, or black.
They're those things.
They're usually typically poorpeople, anyway, nonetheless.
(12:01):
So they would make jokes abouthow lazy Juan was, and Juan was
known as your common soldier inMexico.
His wife, who was typicallystationed with them in these
times in the barracks, was knownas Maria right, so that's a
very common name for them atthat time as well.
Thus marijuana, because thesoldiers, it was a cheap drug
that a lot of like indigenousfolks used for an herbal remedy.
(12:24):
Big surprise, but they alsoliked to get high.
So, and that's also where thelazy shit starts, by the way, is
another way to undercut them.
So we you know as much asmarijuana is a part of like how
we say, it's what we call it,and it is something that I'll
probably say I have it for years.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Good for you, dude, since I read that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, no, I mean, really that was yeah, but it's
hammered into our culture thatthat's what it was and how bad
it was as kids.
It was a gateway drug and it'slike I've never done a more
severe drug because I smokedweed.
(13:05):
Like I've been drunk and it'sbeen years, people, but I've
done cocaine Shocker here.
So when I'm running for Senate,you can bring this back on me,
but I would never do that after.
We'd be like hell.
No, I want some pizza, like Idon't want any coke, but you
know, get some stuff that's soldon.
Well, I guess weed sold on theshelves now too.
But you know, this poison thatfor years has been Right, it
(13:32):
makes you know there's a gateway.
Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Alcohol years has been right.
It makes you know there's agateway job alcohol, yes, yeah,
yeah, I'll tell you this much.
It's no surprise.
I have open conversations withmy kids.
Okay, this is not like uh and Ido believe in that parents to.
If you've made mistakes, it'sokay to tell your kids about
them.
You don't need to sugarcoatthem.
Maybe just don't make it ascrazy or uh disturbing sounding
as some of your stories mayreally be.
But they all know I've partookin about everything because of
how I grew.
Sugarcoat them.
Maybe just don't make it ascrazy or uh disturbing sounding
as some of your stories mayreally be.
But they all know I've partookin about everything because of
(13:59):
how I grew up and, um, most whenI first tried I meth, for
example, because I'm frombillings bro, like you know I.
You see, you see locarseverywhere.
I remember I was in.
I was in like seventh grade ishand I was just walking around
my neighborhood and shit andjust ended up seeing some house
party.
There was like some high schoolfolks and shit in this
(14:20):
apartment and I walked back inbecause I knew a couple of them
and went into this back room andthey were.
I didn't even fucking know whata loker was, bro, really.
I mean, I'd seen them but Ididn't know the whole.
I knew what it was but I didn't, and that's how I tried it.
It's just so common.
But I was drinking.
Okay, every time I've ever doneanything like that, that was
(14:44):
stupid.
It was because I was drinkingSerious, so that was a valid
point.
My friend Marijuana, my kidsdon't drink by the way Once
again.
No, I know, because they smoke.
Yes, I know, and they're all ofage guys.
Yeah, so well, almost all ofthem are of age, but, like the
ones who smoke, definitely areof age right.
So it's just a thing, man, veryvalid point.
Thank you.
I feel like this is turninginto an education on just like
(15:08):
smoke weed guys.
If you're feeling all stressedout, just smoke an indica or a
hybrid indica.
If you want to get some energy,maybe vacuum the top of your
house.
Smoke a sativa.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I will say it is a gateway drug to cinnamon
coffee cake, but that'sbasically about it.
Yeah, bro, or Reese's peanutbutter ice cream cups?
Yes, cannabis can definitelylead to that.
What are?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
you smoking on right now that you're speaking like
this, I want to know.
What strain do?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
you.
Public service announcement.
I actually don't know.
I know the initials are YP, butI put it in a jar and I don't
recall.
It's a winner, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Winner YP winner, that's for sure.
Yeah, winner, winner, yp.
Well, that's why.
So your prize, we'll call itthat good job man, you win, so
good pants.
There you go, if you like that.
There you are my friend, butyou're leading the chart.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's actually a strain, because I was trying to
think of it.
I was like, well, I don't know,maybe yucatan, I guess that's
not one, but it's not a strainapparently that I could find.
But anyway, yeah, it'sdefinitely a, it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Definitely solid.
Hey, do you remember when wecouldn't remember what that one
kind of weed we had was and wewere trying to tell somebody,
and I think you called itLouisiana Swamp Donkey?
No, that was not me, oh, itwasn't.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Who did that, it was just funny, man, it came up.
Nope, I remember you telling meabout that.
But yeah, I can't take creditfor that.
And I must give credit to ourdearly departed MC Straight
Budge.
Oh, gave, or gave One of themore discerning, even back when
it was really hard to find goodcannabis and we're talking
(17:00):
almost 20 years ago, bozeman,montana, here lots of Beester,
it's this Canadian stuff thatwanted to be good but just got
packed before it was cured anddidn't get you very high.
It tasted like hay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Hey, hey, hey, yeah, he would refer to anything that
was not up to his standards asBangladeshi, and swamp cabbage.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh, where did we get the Louisiana swamp donkey from?
It must have just been a hybridof that.
God rest MC Straight Budge.
By the way, we're losing toomany of them, my friend.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Indeed.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And, yeah, budge, by the way, we're losing too many
of them.
My friend indeed, yeah, forsure.
And uh, yeah, definitely needto mention our dearly departed
luke rogers, who was fixture inthe cannabis industry and yeah,
somewhere portland oregon andjust an awesome human being,
yeah, so yeah, he's well, ourfriends indeed.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, luke, uh, luke ro, that is a pirate name.
I always told him that, man, Istill intend on making him a
pirate flag and uh, kind of arest in peace, uh, you know sort
of deal.
Uh, cause I had talked to theboys somewhere and we decided
that if we're going tomemorialize him, it would.
It would be kind of sad to putrest in peace on there, and
(18:12):
that's not what he represented.
Luke was the type of guy he wassix, six people, right, but he
was the type of guy that wouldwalk up and give you a hug and
he'd be like damn, this isfucking good, like cool.
Thanks, man, I really neededthat and that sounds weird, but
it's not people just saying no,just an awesome, awesome dude.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I knew him for an afternoon but we went to his
mom's house and she fed usfreshly made gingerbread and
showed us the uke, the uke, thebotanist.
So yeah, yeah, anyway, sorry.
Yeah, sorry about that, guys,and also, before I forget,
salute to all the veterans.
Tomorrow we're recording thison November 10th, nice, halo,
(18:53):
yeah, much love and respect.
Halo, eddie Oscar there's.
I don't want to forget anybody,some of my relatives in the
past, anybody that ever has oris currently or ever will.
Much respect.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Right, I don't believe you guys are idiots
either.
Okay, I'm not on that bandwagonof the guy who said that.
So that's being hell.
No, no, my, you know like, andalso these people.
Cannabis brings them more joyand alleviates their, their
anxieties, more than most themedication they receive.
(19:29):
I've noticed a lot of theseptsd people, you know.
So, I don't know man, there'ssome pretty cool.
This thing was on LeafWell aswell.
I want to kick down to thebottom just to kind of give a
little thing.
And it says this Remember thatthe land-raised strains today
may be slightly different fromwhat they once were, as their
unique environments may havecontributed to new
(19:51):
characteristics, includingterpenes and cannabinoid
profiles.
The most authentic land-raisedstrains will be found at the
source of where they originated.
You know so, like, all they'retrying to say is, even if it
does say it's terp and poison,you know it's been affected a
little bit, but we're just goingto go ahead and call them
land-raised anyway.
So that may be another reasonwhy, like, when you get some of
(20:12):
these, like I was kind ofcomplaining about earlier,
because I complain a lotsometimes because I'm American
and I'm a human, okay, guys, butthat might have something to do
with that.
There's a few of these thatwere very interesting that I had
.
I have not tried, by the way,that I do want to and I want to.
(20:32):
Mazar Ashraf, have you evertried that?
No, yeah, apparently it's apretty good indica strain, but
it's a derivative of Hindu Kush,native to Afghanistan, so
that's kind of cool and it's oneof the strains where you know
you get that red coloring, thered hairs.
I guess that's where a lot ofthat comes from.
(20:53):
So that was kind of aninteresting fact.
I found Just saying, huh, yes,indeed, and I don't know, man,
like I really love this.
I think that the main messageof this was just hey, guys, this
is what Land Race means, and wemade a show out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, because again it's like I know a little bit,
having been around grows andobviously there's a lot more
information available.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
At the click of a button.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Now to mother google, right, but uh well, I
definitely encourage people tolook into this.
I mean, it is kind of you know,we do have options.
People in the in this cannabisindustry these days and I I'm
sorry if you live in an areawhere you're taxed pretty
heavily and an ace still costslike 50 bucks, you know of good
(21:41):
weed.
That's fucking crazy, by theway, uh, but nonetheless you
have options and if you researchsome of this, there are
legitimate ways to make cannabiswork for you positively.
One thing as well, where I'mgonna get off on a little thing
owen uh introduced me to cbd,and that is a real thing.
(22:04):
Guys, like it just depends, butit is good for so much anxiety,
blood pressure, um, justeverything.
So I encourage people toactually check into using like
cbd as a form of, you know,maybe an alternative before you
shove a bunch of fucking pillsdown your throat right yeah,
that's basically a cannabis isnon psychoactive cousin and so
(22:28):
you don't get high.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
There's a big misconception and even I've seen
some people that were therestill anti cannabis.
It can be even like religiousright people are like okay with
cbd, because they finally listenand it's like no, this is not
going, it's not psychoactive.
Like no matter how much youtake, you're not going to get
(22:49):
high, you might take a nap right, but yeah yeah yeah, thank,
thank the earth for all thecannabinoids.
Apparently there's around 200.
Now I haven't used cbg and cbna little bit, but um, yeah,
definitely look into it,especially if you're a cannabis
enthusiast so you have veryloose knowledge of that.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You actually do know quite a bit more about that.
Um, one of these days we shouldbring on some of these folks
that we know we could do an?
Uh interesting things.
I think people might enjoy that.
If you guys have any questionsor if you want to suggest
something, we do have a textoption on every episode.
It should be at the top of theshow description link.
We can't really answer you back, that's not the point of it.
(23:34):
It's just for you to text usand maybe suggest an idea.
Or tell us we suck, I don'tgive a fuck man as long as
you're interacting.
Idea.
Or tell us we suck, I don'tgive a fuck man, Like as long as
you're interacting.
Like, hey, Colt, that wasreally stupid what you said
about this.
I want to hear about it.
Guys, Feel free, that's okay.
The yeah man, I don't know.
This is great.
Thank you for doing thisepisode, Owen.
This was fantastic.
(23:55):
It was from a total randomconversation and I really
appreciate it because I reallyappreciate you.
Hey, everybody, I just snappedmy fingers.
I appreciate it, Owen, and youguys too, out there in
Podcastlandia.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Back at you, brother and hell, you're all out in
Podcastlandia.
Hope you're having a lovelyelevated day, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Why don't you go to your favorite cannabis spot?
I don't even know.
Hey, do you know any stateswhere weed isn't legal now?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Go to your favorite cannabis spot, unless, I don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Hey, do you know any states where weed isn't legal?
Now, I don't.
Uh, yeah, I would Bama, maybe.
I guess it's getting Idaho forsure.
Ugh, gross Idaho's a grossstate.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wyoming yeah, there's a few around here.
Utah's medical now, but when Iwas out there at a concert
people were telling me it's anon-combustible state, which I
imagine means you can only getsuper weak edibles.
That's weird.
But yeah, being a West Coastkid, now that Montana's
(24:59):
legalized, it's just bizarre tome that now even people
relatives of mine who neverpartake are very much on the
side of like why don't?
If this helps people, why don'tyou just let them?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
right, let them use it.
Yeah, exactly, I'm interestedin this new I'm gonna go ahead
and date the episode just alittle bit because we just, you
know, election just happened andeverything, and one of the
talks of things is lettingstates decide and that was the
big push in some ways.
So I'm very interested also.
And also the talk is messingwith big pharma.
(25:30):
Well, if that's the case, Ihope to see cannabis legalized
on a federal level.
Still, it would be like probablyone of the biggest blows to
pharma, I feel, because, as weaccept stuff like this more and
maybe mix some of, I want to say, eastern medicine but in all
(25:51):
honesty, it's just indigenousmedicine from around the world
in with what we know these days,we're going to benefit and just
like, say, sugars, sugars, forexample, anything that's
processed, it sucks, man forreal right.
So why would we want to takethese processed, just shitty
pills that are just destroyingour body?
(26:11):
So many of them have theseweird side effects where you
have to take more pills tocounteract the side effects for
the the first fucking pill youtook, right?
So that's, that's a real, yeah,I love.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
It'll be like, you know, it'll rattle off the side
effects before they even,seemingly before they tell you
what it's gonna help, and it'llbe like may cause dry mouth,
like proud, you know.
Partial paralysis, yes, butyour rash on your pinky toe will
go away.
So it's like, okay, that was abad, you know, but your rash on
your pinky toe will go away.
So it's like okay, that was bad, you know.
(26:41):
But I mean, really, I've heardstuff where the side effect is
death and it's like what Well?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
that sucks, yeah, yet again people.
I have never met anybody whohas died from consuming cannabis
products.
Period Well it'd be hard tomeet them if they'd already died
.
Well, you may have met thembefore they died.
I'm just saying Good point,though Valid point on
misspeaking there.
Man, this is fantastic.
(27:08):
We could probably make thislike a two-hour episode, but I
feel that we may have to revisitsome.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
If anyone wanted to go into a coma, they'd listen to
it.
Sorry, oh no, a coma, they'dlisten to it, Sorry oh no I know
, Damn man, Way to go on thatone.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That was fantastic.
Alright.
People out there inPodcastlandia, no matter where
you are, unless you're in Idaho,Wyoming or wherever the fuck
Elso and just said maybe youguys should Probably Bama yeah,
I was thinking Bama too.
Arkansas, Mississippi, GrossAll these places, even though
there's like.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
For years there's been the government testing
cannabis in Mississippi, yetit's insanely illegal there.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah, we could go on and on, but we'll save the
coma inducing to theprofessional Right, hey, another
thing is, guys, if you live inthese states that we say shit
about, it's not about you, it'sabout your government, I guess,
or whatever the fuck's like that.
It's similar to like us Montanabashing because you know, I'm
(28:17):
from there, owen lives there,you know, and it's just.
It's simply just that we dolove everybody for real and our
episodes are geared towardshoping that you can have the
best day possible and we justhope that we make you smile, and
that's a real fucking thing,right.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, absolutely.
And just because we saysomething bad about a particular
law in this state, I meanthere's really good to be found
everywhere.
Idaho is phenomenally beautiful.
Oh my God, it's just.
You know, they'll behead you inTown Square if you have a joint
.
Yeah, maybe that's anexaggeration, but you get where
I'm going.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So yeah we're not just trashing the entire state
and all the people and we'rejust saying like hey look, this
is an archaic law that RightWell they also, might you know
they might not quite behead youfor some weed, bro, but if
you're black for sure, sorry,it's true, there's a lot of
racism in Idaho guys.
I do not want to shy away fromthat.
(29:15):
I don't even know if anybodyfrom Idaho listens to us.
We may be banned there.
I'm unsure.
So whatever, maybe now we getplays in Serbia, not Idaho guys.
I don't know.
It's weird Just saying we getplays from all over the world.
People Like what is it?
We're globally renowned, isthat it?
(29:35):
I can't remember now.
Globally renowned yeah, I tellstories.
Thank you very much.
Hey, snap my fingers again, bro.
You better have a good day andI hope everybody out there does
too.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Much love everybody, Thank you.
uh, hey, what's up?
My friend, I hope this isfinding you in in a good mode,
as we were going to be speakingabout something we we know very
well.
You know just some of thismarijuana shop talk, but in a
real form episode, my friend,right, well, cannabis.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Okay, thank you, as marijuana was a term.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, indeed, andyeah, talking about land races,
which, for as long as betweenthe two of us, we have consumed
cannabis and we were having adiscussion about how we heard
the term but didn't really knowmuch about it, no, couldn't, at
(00:38):
least I couldn't.
If you asked me to define, Iwould say I don't know because I
don't.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know enoughto even kind of, uh, right,
yeah, get started.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So it's interesting to uh find out exactly what that
means right and I feel likewe're not alone in this, as we
know some other people that youwould you had brought up front
of the show spooner.
He had no clue and he, he doesgrow and, uh, me and you both
I'm not saying we're unique tothe situation in America, but we
both know people who operatelarge-scale grows and have since
(01:10):
the beginning of like thelegalization you know in a lot
of these states and as much asthe dirt.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm just, let me just say, to spoon it.
I think he may know more than Ido.
I just mentioned to him that wewere gonna do this, is all.
Yeah, he probably knows a lotmore than I do.
So not not mentioned to himthat we were going to do this,
is all.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, he probably knows a lot more than I do.
So not not trying to discreditSpooner that's a hell of a name,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, I know, I was just saying that.
Yeah, he didn't.
He just said he's excited thatwe were going to do the topic.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, for sure, man, and it's just one of those
things where you hear the term alot.
I've been in shops wherethey'll toss it around and stuff
and everybody has a blankfucking look on their face.
For the most part, you know,and I've been consuming cannabis
since I was around 11 or 12 andI'm 42 now I'm old and I had no
(01:56):
clue until we talked about thisand looked it up on Google.
Guys, just saying so.
Nonetheless, my friend, on thisfantastic, uh, this feels like
kind of a racy episode.
I don't know who knows, but, uh, I'm gonna go ahead and give
you a definition that I kind offound real fast here.
Uh, a land race is adomesticated, locally adapted,
(02:17):
often traditional, variety of aspecies of animal or plant that
is developed over time so it canbe whatever it's, a it's like a
blanket term, which I didn'tknow that either, by the way
Through adaptation to itsnatural and cultural environment
of agriculture and pastoralism.
Ah, all right.
So here's some things.
A lot of this has to do withisolated location like islands,
mountains, etc.
(02:38):
Right?
Or maybe a place where it'shard for us dumb humans to get
to and change everything, right?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's hard for us dumb humans to get to and change
everything, right?
Yeah, because essentially, justif I had to give a broad
overview of what a landrace is,it's genetically unaltered, as
most everything we smokenowadays is like a hybrid.
These were all just as MotherNature created them.
I tried some of the exampleshindu kush remember that was one
(03:08):
of the first strange names yeah, that's the tie.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, hindu kush was said to be the first one that
was defined as a land race andactually where a lot of this
comes from.
Most of my information, uh,came from leafwellcom.
It was one of the best sourcesI had found on it and just
wanted to drop that foreverybody.
So, if you want to look it upyourselves, uh, there are
reportedly more than 30land-raised strains, which I
(03:35):
feel like there's probably morethan that.
Uh, that's across the globecentral asia, central south asia
, the middle east, central,central South Asia, the Middle
East, central and South America,and Africa are the places where
the cannabis land-raisedstrains come from, right.
So these are things we foundout, owen, and, as you mentioned
(03:55):
, the Hindu Kush, I want to juststart off like let's fucking
start this off strong.
Which of the land-raisedstrains that you had researched
or seen in this process are yourfavorite?
Let's go with number one andtwo, if possible.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, also they were found in the Americas, because
there's Acapulco Gold and Panama.
Brazilian I'd say Brazilianmight be my favorite.
I was a kid, I was probably 16,and I'm 45 now, so I'm even
older.
I was a kid, you know, I wasprobably 16 and I'm 45 now, so
I'm even older.
But yeah, brazilian I rememberbeing.
(04:29):
The Hindu Kush was also.
I haven't disliked any of them,but no, okay, I'm sorry, the
Thai chocolate Thai.
If that's actually the originalLandre's, that would be my
favorite, which also anybodythat has the stereotype of lazy
stoners.
Observe someone that smokeschocolate Thai.
(04:51):
I once went for a walk aftersmoking some and realized I was
an hour and a half away from thehouse and had to get home.
Oh my God, which is fine.
The dog and I are much younger.
Correct, he at least could drinkout of the river.
I opted to just have cottonmouth all the way home, right,
anyway, yeah, so sorry that wasa long-winded, stumbling answer,
(05:14):
but chocolate tie is myfavorite.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, considering we're, you know, trying to talk
on a podcast about cannabis, Ithink any long-winded answer may
be okay.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Owen, my uh A podcast Ho ho, ho, ho ho.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Hey, hi, dad joke.
Yeah, for sure that soundsgreat to me, my friend.
Hey, you know, my favoriteland-raised strain is the sativa
because, as you know, I'm a bigsativa fan.
Okay, and that would be theMalawi gold, which is actually
from the country Malawi.
The more you know, owen, that'sa great one.
Also big fan of Durban poison.
(05:53):
I know it's a hit or miss man,because I don't feel that with
some of these people, you know,sometimes they don't come out
quite right or maybe they rushedit or something.
But when you get some of theseland land ray strains like this
that are the ogs of sorts, rightman, when they do them right,
it is amazing.
That's how I feel about it.
The uh.
(06:14):
The other thing I was point Iwas uh pretty interested in here
is the differences in some oflike this.
You, we know how sativas arefar different.
So land-raised sativa strainsare usually taller and they're a
bit harder to grow, so they'realso more rare in that case, as
they cost so much to get done.
(06:34):
You know, most of these guyswho have developed a lot of
these hybrids mix them in theseindicas and such with these
sativa strains in order to havea bigger yield and that's what's
kind of diluted it I thinkright, I mean I wouldn't say
diluted it, it's, it'sdefinitely made it a bigger
(06:55):
yield, but uh, yeah, diluted thepure sativa.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
But um yeah, I have nothing against hybrids, it's
just it's cool that there'sstill the land race strains to
be found Stuff that wasn'taltered.
You know there's still graywolves, like look at all the
genetic stuff humans have doneto dogs.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
No, that's fucking.
I think there's still there, isthere's no longer dire wolves.
Of course, those are massivewolves that used to run around
Europe and probably were prettyfreaking scary.
They're about as big as a horse, I think.
I don't know when they died out, but I think they're the size
of timber wolves, which is huge.
But Well, when we're talkingold school horses like the ones
that the knights used to ride on, you know what I'm saying.
(07:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah old school Peopledon't know that either.
Hey, knights used to rideponies, guys.
So whenever you see a Disneycartoon and they're on this big
steed, not the case, guys.
They were dragging their feetFor real.
That's a thing.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
More like something that should be at a petting zoo
than on a battlefield.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, well, as the BHP, the British History Podcast
, which I often plug noaffiliation, by the way, just a
great show.
He often Street Podcast, whichI often plug no affiliation, by
the way, just a great show.
He often calls whatever theywrote Glitter Hoof.
As he was writing Glitter Hoofinto battle, I'm like, oh my god
, thank you.
Thank you, jamie Jeffers.
Yeah, I wonder if he enjoyscannabis, I imagine.
(08:19):
So I don't know, he seems likehe may, I don't know.
Durban Poison, which I broughtup earlier, is one of the
marijuana markets mostwell-known.
It does hail from South Africanport city of Durban, which is
kind of cool and is dated backto the 14th century.
A lot of these strains as wellmy friends spread due to the aid
(08:39):
to sale and piracy, becausepirates were well-known to use
drugs of all kinds.
Right, I mean, that's kind of acommon knowledge thing, I would
think.
Do you think it is?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay, I wouldn't be shocking, Iwouldn't think someone would be
like oh my God, you know.
Yeah, I thought they were achoir boy Right.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So in a lot of them, you know, when they did this
stuff they acquired it from theMuslim world and then they
headed on over to, you know,south America and spread the
love.
I suppose I imagine they hadquite a bit of cannabis on their
voyages.
That's a pretty cool thought tothink of.
You know, pirates cruising openseas, you know, looking for
some prizes, smoking some Durbanpoison.
(09:21):
That's badass, my friend.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So some of the.
Would you get all antsy on theboat though smoking a beer?
I went for a swim.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh no, fun fact a lot of times when I read about
pirate stories most, oh no, Funfact a lot of times when I read
about pirate stories most ofthese guys couldn't even really
swim.
Isn't that kind of scary?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It's a weird thing, I thought.
I mean, I guess if you fall offin the middle of the ocean,
you're done.
Don't care how well you swim,doesn't matter.
There's a lot looking at us.
No, a lot of sharks Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
No, a lot of sharks.
No, no, that doesn't seem fun atall, so I don't know.
I do enjoy that Columbian goldyou said was another one, I
believe.
I wonder if that's acombination there, Because you
see the Acapulco gold, Columbiangold.
There must be something there.
They're both from SouthAmerica-ish because Acapulco
(10:15):
actually is native to Mexico.
I'm so interested in theseSouth American strains and how
this all worked out.
That is fantastic.
The Thai landrace strain is apure sativa and is known to be
very tall, with many branchesand long serrated fan leaves.
So I can just imagine back inthe day I'm going to lean back
on pirates, guys Like they'regoing to go into this Mughal
(10:36):
Empire Emperor's palace and Icould just see him being fanned
with the mighty leaf of a Thaiplant.
That'd be a thing.
I don't know.
How much knowledge are we goingto kick on this, besides the
fact that we actually just saidwhat land race really means and
then we can just talk about allour favorite kinds of marijuana
(10:57):
that apply, I feel.
Once again cannabis, but yeah,not marijuana.
That's a racist term, guys.
We just never realized it.
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It was attached to blame it on Mexicans, and black
jazz musicians were alsoincluded in the like it's their
fault.
That's why this is bad Likeyeah, they're trying to keep
everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, it really the term, the term comes from when
Mexico first became a country,ok, and it was kind of on their
own to an extent, I suppose, andthey really still hated the
indigenous people, even thoughmost of them were mixed Right.
So it was a very classic systemof the more Spanish, or the
whiter your skin, the better offyou were in this culture.
(11:40):
So, as with our culture,typically the soldiers in the
wars that they were fightingwere indigenous, very common to
a lot of us Like.
So here in America, a lot ofthe people we send to the front
lines are, are, are of, are of,you know, mexican or something
like that, or black.
They're those things.
They're usually typically poorpeople, anyway, nonetheless.
(12:01):
So they would make jokes abouthow lazy Juan was, and Juan was
known as your common soldier inMexico.
His wife, who was typicallystationed with them in these
times in the barracks, was knownas Maria right, so that's a
very common name for them atthat time as well.
Thus marijuana, because thesoldiers, it was a cheap drug
that a lot of like indigenousfolks used for an herbal remedy.
(12:24):
Big surprise, but they alsoliked to get high.
So, and that's also where thelazy shit starts, by the way, is
another way to undercut them.
So we you know as much asmarijuana is a part of like how
we say, it's what we call it,and it is something that I'll
probably say I have it for years.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Good for you, dude, since I read that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, no, I mean, really that was yeah, but it's
hammered into our culture thatthat's what it was and how bad
it was as kids.
It was a gateway drug and it'slike I've never done a more
severe drug because I smokedweed.
(13:05):
Like I've been drunk and it'sbeen years, people, but I've
done cocaine Shocker here.
So when I'm running for Senate,you can bring this back on me,
but I would never do that after.
We'd be like hell.
No, I want some pizza, like Idon't want any coke, but you
know, get some stuff that's soldon.
Well, I guess weed sold on theshelves now too.
But you know, this poison thatfor years has been Right, it
(13:32):
makes you know there's a gateway.
Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Alcohol years has been right.
It makes you know there's agateway job alcohol, yes, yeah,
yeah, I'll tell you this much.
It's no surprise.
I have open conversations withmy kids.
Okay, this is not like uh and Ido believe in that parents to.
If you've made mistakes, it'sokay to tell your kids about
them.
You don't need to sugarcoatthem.
Maybe just don't make it ascrazy or uh disturbing sounding
as some of your stories mayreally be.
But they all know I've partookin about everything because of
how I grew.
Sugarcoat them.
Maybe just don't make it ascrazy or uh disturbing sounding
as some of your stories mayreally be.
But they all know I've partookin about everything because of
(13:59):
how I grew up and, um, most whenI first tried I meth, for
example, because I'm frombillings bro, like you know I.
You see, you see locarseverywhere.
I remember I was in.
I was in like seventh grade ishand I was just walking around
my neighborhood and shit andjust ended up seeing some house
party.
There was like some high schoolfolks and shit in this
(14:20):
apartment and I walked back inbecause I knew a couple of them
and went into this back room andthey were.
I didn't even fucking know whata loker was, bro, really.
I mean, I'd seen them but Ididn't know the whole.
I knew what it was but I didn't, and that's how I tried it.
It's just so common.
But I was drinking.
Okay, every time I've ever doneanything like that, that was
(14:44):
stupid.
It was because I was drinkingSerious, so that was a valid
point.
My friend Marijuana, my kidsdon't drink by the way Once
again.
No, I know, because they smoke.
Yes, I know, and they're all ofage guys.
Yeah, so well, almost all ofthem are of age, but, like the
ones who smoke, definitely areof age right.
So it's just a thing, man, veryvalid point.
Thank you.
I feel like this is turninginto an education on just like
(15:08):
smoke weed guys.
If you're feeling all stressedout, just smoke an indica or a
hybrid indica.
If you want to get some energy,maybe vacuum the top of your
house.
Smoke a sativa.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I will say it is a gateway drug to cinnamon
coffee cake, but that'sbasically about it.
Yeah, bro, or Reese's peanutbutter ice cream cups?
Yes, cannabis can definitelylead to that.
What are?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
you smoking on right now that you're speaking like
this, I want to know.
What strain do?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
you.
Public service announcement.
I actually don't know.
I know the initials are YP, butI put it in a jar and I don't
recall.
It's a winner, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Winner YP winner, that's for sure.
Yeah, winner, winner, yp.
Well, that's why.
So your prize, we'll call itthat good job man, you win, so
good pants.
There you go, if you like that.
There you are my friend, butyou're leading the chart.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's actually a strain, because I was trying to
think of it.
I was like, well, I don't know,maybe yucatan, I guess that's
not one, but it's not a strainapparently that I could find.
But anyway, yeah, it'sdefinitely a, it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Definitely solid.
Hey, do you remember when wecouldn't remember what that one
kind of weed we had was and wewere trying to tell somebody,
and I think you called itLouisiana Swamp Donkey?
No, that was not me, oh, itwasn't.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Who did that, it was just funny, man, it came up.
Nope, I remember you telling meabout that.
But yeah, I can't take creditfor that.
And I must give credit to ourdearly departed MC Straight
Budge.
Oh, gave, or gave One of themore discerning, even back when
it was really hard to find goodcannabis and we're talking
(17:00):
almost 20 years ago, bozeman,montana, here lots of Beester,
it's this Canadian stuff thatwanted to be good but just got
packed before it was cured anddidn't get you very high.
It tasted like hay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Hey, hey, hey, yeah, he would refer to anything that
was not up to his standards asBangladeshi, and swamp cabbage.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh, where did we get the Louisiana swamp donkey from?
It must have just been a hybridof that.
God rest MC Straight Budge.
By the way, we're losing toomany of them, my friend.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Indeed.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And, yeah, budge, by the way, we're losing too many
of them.
My friend indeed, yeah, forsure.
And uh, yeah, definitely needto mention our dearly departed
luke rogers, who was fixture inthe cannabis industry and yeah,
somewhere portland oregon andjust an awesome human being,
yeah, so yeah, he's well, ourfriends indeed.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, luke, uh, luke ro, that is a pirate name.
I always told him that, man, Istill intend on making him a
pirate flag and uh, kind of arest in peace, uh, you know sort
of deal.
Uh, cause I had talked to theboys somewhere and we decided
that if we're going tomemorialize him, it would.
It would be kind of sad to putrest in peace on there, and
(18:12):
that's not what he represented.
Luke was the type of guy he wassix, six people, right, but he
was the type of guy that wouldwalk up and give you a hug and
he'd be like damn, this isfucking good, like cool.
Thanks, man, I really neededthat and that sounds weird, but
it's not people just saying no,just an awesome, awesome dude.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I knew him for an afternoon but we went to his
mom's house and she fed usfreshly made gingerbread and
showed us the uke, the uke, thebotanist.
So yeah, yeah, anyway, sorry.
Yeah, sorry about that, guys,and also, before I forget,
salute to all the veterans.
Tomorrow we're recording thison November 10th, nice, halo,
(18:53):
yeah, much love and respect.
Halo, eddie Oscar there's.
I don't want to forget anybody,some of my relatives in the
past, anybody that ever has oris currently or ever will.
Much respect.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Right, I don't believe you guys are idiots
either.
Okay, I'm not on that bandwagonof the guy who said that.
So that's being hell.
No, no, my, you know like, andalso these people.
Cannabis brings them more joyand alleviates their, their
anxieties, more than most themedication they receive.
(19:29):
I've noticed a lot of theseptsd people, you know.
So, I don't know man, there'ssome pretty cool.
This thing was on LeafWell aswell.
I want to kick down to thebottom just to kind of give a
little thing.
And it says this Remember thatthe land-raised strains today
may be slightly different fromwhat they once were, as their
unique environments may havecontributed to new
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characteristics, includingterpenes and cannabinoid
profiles.
The most authentic land-raisedstrains will be found at the
source of where they originated.
You know so, like, all they'retrying to say is, even if it
does say it's terp and poison,you know it's been affected a
little bit, but we're just goingto go ahead and call them
land-raised anyway.
So that may be another reasonwhy, like, when you get some of
(20:12):
these, like I was kind ofcomplaining about earlier,
because I complain a lotsometimes because I'm American
and I'm a human, okay, guys, butthat might have something to do
with that.
There's a few of these thatwere very interesting that I had
.
I have not tried, by the way,that I do want to and I want to.
(20:32):
Mazar Ashraf, have you evertried that?
No, yeah, apparently it's apretty good indica strain, but
it's a derivative of Hindu Kush,native to Afghanistan, so
that's kind of cool and it's oneof the strains where you know
you get that red coloring, thered hairs.
I guess that's where a lot ofthat comes from.
(20:53):
So that was kind of aninteresting fact.
I found Just saying, huh, yes,indeed, and I don't know, man,
like I really love this.
I think that the main messageof this was just hey, guys, this
is what Land Race means, and wemade a show out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, because again it's like I know a little bit,
having been around grows andobviously there's a lot more
information available.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
At the click of a button.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Now to mother google, right, but uh well, I
definitely encourage people tolook into this.
I mean, it is kind of you know,we do have options.
People in the in this cannabisindustry these days and I I'm
sorry if you live in an areawhere you're taxed pretty
heavily and an ace still costslike 50 bucks, you know of good
(21:41):
weed.
That's fucking crazy, by theway, uh, but nonetheless you
have options and if you researchsome of this, there are
legitimate ways to make cannabiswork for you positively.
One thing as well, where I'mgonna get off on a little thing
owen uh introduced me to cbd,and that is a real thing.
(22:04):
Guys, like it just depends, butit is good for so much anxiety,
blood pressure, um, justeverything.
So I encourage people toactually check into using like
cbd as a form of, you know,maybe an alternative before you
shove a bunch of fucking pillsdown your throat right yeah,
that's basically a cannabis isnon psychoactive cousin and so
(22:28):
you don't get high.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
There's a big misconception and even I've seen
some people that were therestill anti cannabis.
It can be even like religiousright people are like okay with
cbd, because they finally listenand it's like no, this is not
going, it's not psychoactive.
Like no matter how much youtake, you're not going to get
(22:49):
high, you might take a nap right, but yeah yeah yeah, thank,
thank the earth for all thecannabinoids.
Apparently there's around 200.
Now I haven't used cbg and cbna little bit, but um, yeah,
definitely look into it,especially if you're a cannabis
enthusiast so you have veryloose knowledge of that.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You actually do know quite a bit more about that.
Um, one of these days we shouldbring on some of these folks
that we know we could do an?
Uh interesting things.
I think people might enjoy that.
If you guys have any questionsor if you want to suggest
something, we do have a textoption on every episode.
It should be at the top of theshow description link.
We can't really answer you back, that's not the point of it.
(23:34):
It's just for you to text usand maybe suggest an idea.
Or tell us we suck, I don'tgive a fuck man as long as
you're interacting.
Idea.
Or tell us we suck, I don'tgive a fuck man, Like as long as
you're interacting.
Like, hey, Colt, that wasreally stupid what you said
about this.
I want to hear about it.
Guys, Feel free, that's okay.
The yeah man, I don't know.
This is great.
Thank you for doing thisepisode, Owen.
This was fantastic.
(23:55):
It was from a total randomconversation and I really
appreciate it because I reallyappreciate you.
Hey, everybody, I just snappedmy fingers.
I appreciate it, Owen, and youguys too, out there in
Podcastlandia.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Back at you, brother and hell, you're all out in
Podcastlandia.
Hope you're having a lovelyelevated day, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Why don't you go to your favorite cannabis spot?
I don't even know.
Hey, do you know any stateswhere weed isn't legal now?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Go to your favorite cannabis spot, unless, I don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Hey, do you know any states where weed isn't legal?
Now, I don't.
Uh, yeah, I would Bama, maybe.
I guess it's getting Idaho forsure.
Ugh, gross Idaho's a grossstate.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wyoming yeah, there's a few around here.
Utah's medical now, but when Iwas out there at a concert
people were telling me it's anon-combustible state, which I
imagine means you can only getsuper weak edibles.
That's weird.
But yeah, being a West Coastkid, now that Montana's
(24:59):
legalized, it's just bizarre tome that now even people
relatives of mine who neverpartake are very much on the
side of like why don't?
If this helps people, why don'tyou just let them?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
right, let them use it.
Yeah, exactly, I'm interestedin this new I'm gonna go ahead
and date the episode just alittle bit because we just, you
know, election just happened andeverything, and one of the
talks of things is lettingstates decide and that was the
big push in some ways.
So I'm very interested also.
And also the talk is messingwith big pharma.
(25:30):
Well, if that's the case, Ihope to see cannabis legalized
on a federal level.
Still, it would be like probablyone of the biggest blows to
pharma, I feel, because, as weaccept stuff like this more and
maybe mix some of, I want to say, eastern medicine but in all
(25:51):
honesty, it's just indigenousmedicine from around the world
in with what we know these days,we're going to benefit and just
like, say, sugars, sugars, forexample, anything that's
processed, it sucks, man forreal right.
So why would we want to takethese processed, just shitty
pills that are just destroyingour body?
(26:11):
So many of them have theseweird side effects where you
have to take more pills tocounteract the side effects for
the the first fucking pill youtook, right?
So that's, that's a real, yeah,I love.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
It'll be like, you know, it'll rattle off the side
effects before they even,seemingly before they tell you
what it's gonna help, and it'llbe like may cause dry mouth,
like proud, you know.
Partial paralysis, yes, butyour rash on your pinky toe will
go away.
So it's like, okay, that was abad, you know, but your rash on
your pinky toe will go away.
So it's like okay, that was bad, you know.
(26:41):
But I mean, really, I've heardstuff where the side effect is
death and it's like what Well?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
that sucks, yeah, yet again people.
I have never met anybody whohas died from consuming cannabis
products.
Period Well it'd be hard tomeet them if they'd already died
.
Well, you may have met thembefore they died.
I'm just saying Good point,though Valid point on
misspeaking there.
Man, this is fantastic.
(27:08):
We could probably make thislike a two-hour episode, but I
feel that we may have to revisitsome.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
If anyone wanted to go into a coma, they'd listen to
it.
Sorry, oh no, a coma, they'dlisten to it, Sorry oh no I know
, Damn man, Way to go on thatone.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That was fantastic.
Alright.
People out there inPodcastlandia, no matter where
you are, unless you're in Idaho,Wyoming or wherever the fuck
Elso and just said maybe youguys should Probably Bama yeah,
I was thinking Bama too.
Arkansas, Mississippi, GrossAll these places, even though
there's like.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
For years there's been the government testing
cannabis in Mississippi, yetit's insanely illegal there.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah, we could go on and on, but we'll save the
coma inducing to theprofessional Right, hey, another
thing is, guys, if you live inthese states that we say shit
about, it's not about you, it'sabout your government, I guess,
or whatever the fuck's like that.
It's similar to like us Montanabashing because you know, I'm
(28:17):
from there, owen lives there,you know, and it's just.
It's simply just that we dolove everybody for real and our
episodes are geared towardshoping that you can have the
best day possible and we justhope that we make you smile, and
that's a real fucking thing,right.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, absolutely.
And just because we saysomething bad about a particular
law in this state, I meanthere's really good to be found
everywhere.
Idaho is phenomenally beautiful.
Oh my God, it's just.
You know, they'll behead you inTown Square if you have a joint
.
Yeah, maybe that's anexaggeration, but you get where
I'm going.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So yeah we're not just trashing the entire state
and all the people and we'rejust saying like hey look, this
is an archaic law that RightWell they also, might you know
they might not quite behead youfor some weed, bro, but if
you're black for sure, sorry,it's true, there's a lot of
racism in Idaho guys.
I do not want to shy away fromthat.
(29:15):
I don't even know if anybodyfrom Idaho listens to us.
We may be banned there.
I'm unsure.
So whatever, maybe now we getplays in Serbia, not Idaho guys.
I don't know.
It's weird Just saying we getplays from all over the world.
People Like what is it?
We're globally renowned, isthat it?
(29:35):
I can't remember now.
Globally renowned yeah, I tellstories.
Thank you very much.
Hey, snap my fingers again, bro.
You better have a good day andI hope everybody out there does
too.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Much love everybody, Thank you.
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