June 10, 2025 • 24 mins
Wedding traditions are far stranger than you might imagine. While we're familiar with white dresses, something borrowed and something blue, these customs barely scratch the surface of matrimonial practices worldwide.
Did you know the pristine white wedding dress only became tradition in 1840 when Queen Victoria made it fashionable? Before then, brides simply wore their best dresses, regardless of color, because clothes were expensive and the concept of a single-use garment was impractical for most people. That beautiful tradition you cherish might be younger than your great-grandmother!
The role of the "best man" has an even darker history. Far from being just a supportive friend, he was originally a skilled swordsman whose primary duty was to help the groom kidnap the bride from disapproving families or rival suitors. The term "best" referred to his combat prowess, not his friendship status. This reveals how marriage was often less about mutual consent and more about property acquisition.
Around the world, wedding rituals range from charming to downright bizarre. French traditions include newlyweds consuming a mixture of leftover food and alcohol from a toilet bowl for "strength." The Tadong community in Indonesia prohibits couples from using the bathroom for three days after marriage, believing this ensures harmony. Some Kenyan fathers spit on their daughters as a blessing before the ceremony. Meanwhile, Czech weddings might involve placing a borrowed infant on the couple's bed for fertility, and Fijian grooms must present their future father-in-law with a whale's tooth as a sign of respect.
Marriage ceremonies fundamentally began as contractual arrangements rather than celebrations of love, which explains why so many traditional practices revolve around property exchange, fertility rituals, and alliance-building instead of emotional connection. The integration of romantic love into marriage is relatively recent in human history.
Join us as we explore these fascinating traditions that showcase how marriage practices continue to evolve across cultures and throughout time. Whether you're planning your own wedding or simply curious about human customs, you'll never look at matrimony the same way again after hearing these stories.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh hoi hoi Hola.
Hey, what's up bro?
How's this fine day treatingyou?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh, not too bad.
Just done some ribeye tacosHanging out pretty much.
Year anniversary for Cold Smokeslash Boogie's Bodega.
So the honey's shining.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, hell yeah.
Congratulations on thatachievement, for sure.
So we're here to let's notdress the situation up or down.
We're here to get to the factsabout, you know, just different
wedding situations, weird littlelike rituals or things of that
nature and what's kind ofinspired the topic, I guess,
(00:37):
which is a pretty big one.
It's not like we sought outsome weird thing to talk about.
It's weddings.
Okay, okay, guys, owen just,but he just attended a wedding
in California.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Below Reading, I feel right, just, barely yeah,
reading area 104 degrees, but itwas awesome.
My cousin, hannah marriedArmando, was both awesome people
and yeah, they didn't doanything weird like these lists,
just a more traditional hangoutto get the cake, get the food.
Yeah, it was awesome, but I did.
(01:14):
I had to just write down.
I felt you know my thoughts onflying and I reached, for we
previously spoke about the LaFonda at the Plaza.
I think and we're laughing thatit was Pip's girlfriend on
Napoleon Dynamite.
I go to grab a pen at my mom'shouse and it's a La Fonda pen.
(01:35):
Oh my god.
So she stayed at La Fonda at thePlaza, which, yeah, colt was
saying, oh, we should go staythere.
I'm like, yeah, totally, here'sSanta Fe's nice.
Yeah, the rooms start at $509.
So a little above our pay grade.
Why, if you guys want to kickin some bucks for An I-Tel
Stories trip to La Fonda at thePlaza, we're probably staying at
(01:58):
the Condo Lodge.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Right, is it pretty fancy looking?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't understand, oh yeah, it looks like it's like
a resort In Santa Fe.
From what I understand, it's apretty Upscale, not in a bad way
, but like really cool city.
So people realize they canCharge extra money when a place
is really cool, right, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, that makes sense to me.
I understand that this weddingyou went to, you know, you just
you were nervous about some ofthe aspects of, you know,
traveling and you just you knowyour business and all these
things, and I understand youwrote something about flying,
was it?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, yeah, just when I was done and I've done a lot
of flying Like, my parents weredivorced when I was a kid and I
fly from Northern to SouthernCalifornia.
I liked it.
Yeah, sometimes because I was alittle kid, they bought me up
to first class and I got todrink as much soda as I wanted,
but now it's just like it's sucha chore so I felt like I had to
just jot down my, my feelings.
(02:58):
Flying it's essentially beingheld captive in an overpriced
mall with worse food for hourson end.
Then, if luck is with you andthe hours don't compound, yeah,
yeah, all right.
Well, hey, you know what I like?
That Brief and to the point,okay, well, and.
(03:27):
And then, of course, like I didsit next to like A really
awesome woman hand and we justtalked the whole time.
So, like, sometimes you Look outand you sit next to like cool
people, but mostly you areseriously surrounded by people,
just like.
And then, like, some kid Willshriek you're expecting like a
Cat to yowl or something.
Oh my god, like a constant.
Anyway, yeah, my funny.
And some kid will shriek it'slike a cat to yowl or something.
Oh, my God, it's like aconstant.
(03:49):
Anyway, yeah, my funny take ongoing to a wedding, but again,
beautiful wedding.
I couldn't be happier for them.
Lots of awesome people there.
That's great man.
Well, congrats to them.
Yeah, and while there are noodd wedding traditions, at least
nothing even approaching someof the ones we're going to
discuss.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I got a couple that are like our normal ones as
well.
I went all around here.
But nothing weird happened atthe wedding to where they didn't
like no, yeah, okay, thatsounds good.
I'm going to start off like youknow.
Just dip our toe into thewedding watchers Owen here.
And sounds good.
I'm going to start off like youknow, just dip our toe into the
wedding waters Owen here.
And not that we already have, Iguess, with the talk at the
(04:31):
beginning of the show here.
But everybody in America knows,you know, like, what's a wedding
dress?
What color is it typically?
Right, white, white, right,well, it's a thing.
But historically, historically,brides would just use their
best dresses, so it could be anycolor, and this was a thing
(04:52):
because obviously not everybodycould afford to have a white
dress.
It would just get dirty andclothes were kind of a big deal.
They were expensive guys backin the day.
So that wasn't a new thinguntil 1840 when Queen Victoria
donned a white dress and itbecame fashionable.
So all the other lore around itwas basically because of the
(05:13):
Victorian era, like the purity,all these, etc.
Things.
Wearing white, you know, at awedding isn't, isn't as old as
it, as we might think it wouldbe.
I guess there there's no real.
That's a pretty moderninvention and it just caught on
from there, you know.
So there's a simple little fact, guys 1840, that's when the
(05:34):
white wedding dress came intoplay.
So not that bizarre but, yeah,not as bizarre as maybe one that
might come from Owen's mouthover here.
Do you got a good one for me?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, I just looked up.
I was kind of thinking maybelike just interesting or bizarre
weddings themselves, but Ifound, on a website called the
Travel, 30 weird weddingtraditions.
We won't cover all of them, butthey come out swinging, oh no.
So you know France, well knownfor elegance and great food and
(06:04):
beautiful landscapes, and I'mjust going to read right from
the travel On the day of aFrench wedding, the guests fill
a toilet bowl with all theleftovers which were once deemed
delicious and mix them withalcohol and everything they
desire.
Then the couple is obliged tofinish the bowl in order to
build up strength for the taxingwedding night that is ahead of
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them.
What?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Why?
Why, that doesn't seem likeanything.
Okay, I don't know, this iswhere we defecate people.
Now eat this, eat this.
Your marriage is going to belike that.
It's a drunken food fest.
I guess I don't know what'sgoing on.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
To gain strength, though I don't know what's going
on.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
To gain strength though I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I don't know either, Okay go ahead.
Well then, here's another oneIn me beloved ancestral land of
Scotland.
Apparently, just like the nightbefore the wedding, the woman
is bathed in smelliness, as theysay, and anything you can find,
(07:11):
if it's just minced meat, fish,flowers, sauces, anything gross
.
And then they all go out on thetown.
Her and her friends go out onthe town, it says.
After bathing her in smelliness, she's been taken for a night
out with her friends Like abachelorette party.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Gross guys Sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
In India, a woman sometimes will marry a tree
before marrying her husband.
Huh, and this comment is somewomen would probably be better
off staying married to a tree.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think that could be played on both
sides, but yes, I agree withthat, yes, yes, oh, my goodness,
what a beautiful thing.
Hey, on my boring wedding factsover here.
Do you know where the best mancame from?
By any chance you know, I don'tknow.
(08:08):
Anyway, staten Island, fairenough, maybe just somebody, I
guess.
Yes, originally the best manwasn't just a supportive friend,
but a skilled swordsman.
His primary role was to assistthe groom in kidnapping the
bride from disapproving familiesor rival suitors.
The best got you off guard, Ithink a little bit.
(08:30):
The best referred to is hisprowess in combat, ensuring the
groom's plans proceeded withoutinterference.
Alright, alright, guys.
So that used to happen.
That was a thing at one pointin time.
Be grateful, princesses, that'snot a thing at one point in
time.
Be grateful, princesses, that'snot a thing.
Because that sounds terrible,guys, I don't think anybody
(08:50):
should ever be forced into doinganything like that at all, or
anything really, but nonetheless, sorry about that, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
No, listen, I don't even I'm not sure where this is,
but M-A-U-R-I-T-I-U-S MeridiusBrides-to-be are sent to fat
camps where they are forced toeat more and gain fat.
The chubbier the soon-to-bewife, the better, as it is a
sign of wealth, and also the menconsider bigger women to be
(09:20):
sexier.
Yeah, and this writer says now,this is my type of wedding
being forced to eat, Gettingmarried like burping.
Oh, my God Boo, that makes me,you make me want to find Do they
just have like a trough at theGolden Corral that they make
these with.
I don't know if they have.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I don't understand that either.
Now, you made me have to.
Oh, here it is.
I found it.
Good thing I'm so.
My notes are organized, people,I tell stories, so I got one
that'll complement your last oneI filled.
Okay, so newlyweds in theTadong tribe I think that's how
you say it.
(10:01):
People in Indonesia, it's atoilet ban for the newlyweds.
The Tadong community inIndonesia observes a strict
post-wedding ritual, my friends,where newlyweds are prohibited
from using the bathroom forthree days and nights.
This practice is believed toensure harmonious marriage,
prevent misfortune such asinfidelity or death of offspring
(10:22):
.
Okay, I don't know what studiesthey have to back this up, but
everybody out there, justconsider it, you know, don't pee
for three days or poop forwhatever.
Nothing, nothing, guys.
Is it before or after Newlyweds?
So that would be presumingafter right, I would presume.
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, okay.
So after you get married, howdo they prevent you from doing
that?
Like you know, is it physicallypossible to hold it for three
days?
I don't think that would beadvised by a physician.
I'm pretty sure it'd run downmy leg at some point, man when I
when I wake up, oh my god.
There's times when you have topull over and just pee wherever
you can find a spot.
(11:03):
My friend, you know that's partof being a guy is supposed to
be right there, but nonetheless.
In Romania, the wife is abductedbefore the marriage that's
fantastic by the best man, I'mpresuming.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's either like family or friends or hired
actors and then the groom has topay to get her back, which is
usually like a silly littleperformance or like a bottle of
booze or something, but stillit's kind of keeping with the
good old Mother's Day Serbiantradition of tying mom up.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well, yeah, serbia, romania, whatever Potato, potato
, but nonetheless I get it.
I wasn't saying that I I get it.
I wasn't saying that I know Iget it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
They steal shoes in India after marrying a tree.
The bright side of the family'smission, according to this, is
to steal shoes, while thegroom's side protects issues
from being absconded with.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh my goodness, oh my goodness, that can be
problematic.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Sticking with that.
In South Korea they beat thegroom's feet.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Okay, did they misspell that?
I don't know, anyway, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, they beat his feet with sticks or dried fish.
What it's supposed to make surethe soon-to-be husband does not
disappoint on his wedding night.
I don't know what's going onthere in South Korea, but why
fish?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Why fish?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
In China, three weeks before the wedding, the mother
and bride Daily just weeptogether and finally the
grandmother Joins in.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Why Did you say why?
Yet again, I want to know why.
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, they know what's coming.
Like the grandma Is really justlike.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay, no, I'm not.
What are they like?
I'm sorry we're women in China,is that Sorry?
I don't care, it's probably nota Anyway nonetheless, guys, no,
I won't be getting married.
Okay, yeah, let's stop it rightthere, Urch, Anyway.
So on another note, you know,bridesmaids, in the weddings
(13:17):
they usually their dresses match.
You know it's a thing, guys.
You know it's a coordinatedwedding.
They're just trying to presentsomething Easy for you to say
yeah.
In ancient times, bridesmaidsdressed identically to the bride
to confuse evil spirits andjealous ex-lovers, apparently
Because they couldn't just seewhat they looked like, I guess.
So this tactic aimed to protectthe bride by making it
(13:38):
difficult for malevolent forcesto single her out.
So that's the purpose of it.
So they all dress like twins,but I wonder if they wore face
coverings or if this was justkind of whatever.
Yet again, I wonder if this islike a thing when they mention
the jealous ex-lover.
So in If this is a thing likeif people are trying to attack
and snatch these poor women.
Jesus, we've been taking a darkturn, I know it all seems to be
(14:08):
pointing in that direction ofmen abducting women and then
marrying them Right.
Yowies, yeah, yowzers.
Where does that come from,yowzers?
What is that?
You know?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Sounds like a cartoon to me, but here's a lighter one
In Quebec, french-canadian.
Hey, they are known to.
But here's a lighter one InQuebec, french-canadian they are
known to.
It's called the silly sockdance.
They wear high colorful socksand dance about and then throw
money which seems like justcoins that could hurt, or like
throwing paper doesn't seem likeit would go very well.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
But yeah, right, but yeah.
Then the money is donated, Iguess, to the hopefully happy
couple yeah, issued intomarriage by dancing around in
silly colorful high socks.
Sounds great, sounds amazing.
Sounds very Canadian.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yes, it does.
Go Canada, elbows up Canada.
Alright, there we are.
Nonetheless, that sounds veryCanadian.
Yes, it does.
Yeah, go Canada, elbows upCanada.
All right, there we are.
Nonetheless, you know what Ididn't see and I just thought of
while you were doing that,before I get to one I have on
deck, is I didn't see like wherethe putting cans and such
behind the car as you drive away.
You know where that came from.
I imagine it's just to kind ofdraw attention to the car and
(15:21):
make noise.
Now that I think about it, but,surprising, they don't have any
sort of ritualistic like hey,this is why we do it anyway.
So now I don't know if this islike some sort of weird website
thing or if it's an actualtradition.
Tradition, but spitting on thebride apparently is a thing in
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Kenya.
I might say this wrong guys,because who knows, I suppose on
my end of the stick, the Masaitribe in Kenya, a father's act
of spitting on his daughter'shead and chest before her
departure to her husband's homewas a profound gesture.
This ritual is believed totransfer blessings, wisdom and
good fortune, while also servingas protection against evil
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spirits and misfortune.
So apparently he's spitting onthe poor girl.
That is how you send her off.
Get out of my house.
Why are they always doing badthings to these women?
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't know, I don't know.
I kind of like this one, though.
Hopefully you see the Mexico,the lasso.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So after the vows are spoken and friends and family
then come out and lasso thehappy couple together.
So, like, as the writer says, Iguess this is the true
definition of tying the knot.
Hey, but that's kind of cool,spitting on people or rubbing,
beating them with fish orcovering them in goop or what's
(16:50):
going on, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Some people out there need a good fish beaten, but
you know I don't understand whatit comes from.
So that's, there's a lot ofthem.
Tree planting ceremonies in thePhilippines.
In the Philippines, somecouples incorporate a tree
planting ceremony into theirwedding by planting a sapling
together.
That one's kind of cute.
All right, there we are.
That's not too bad.
It's just a testament to theirunion, apparently.
(17:14):
Huh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't mind that one .
Um, this one sounds like it.
Um, yeah, I don't mind that one.
This one sounds like it.
Yeah, I don't know.
All this French Polynesia, Allthe bride's relatives lie face
down on the ground in a linewhile the bride and groom walk
over them as if they were a rugbeneath their feet.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh, that doesn't sound very fun.
What is with this shit?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
guys, it could be somewhat dangerous, especially
if it was one of the ones thatwent to the fat camp.
Oh no, sorry, there is.
You're not supposed to smile ata Congolese wedding in the
Congo, Wow, and you know, oftenit's livestock is exchanged for
(18:02):
the wife's hand in marriage.
Yeah, this woman says well, Iwouldn't be smiling either if
someone sold me in exchange fora cow or a horse.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Good point, spot on.
Yeah, that's a thing.
That is definitely a thing.
You know, marriage really onlycame about in the way that we
know it simply for contracts.
That that's like literally theonly reason why there was there
was.
It wasn't until later on thatthey put love in the mix, and
that's just the truth of it.
(18:31):
Yeah, you know, I I didn't.
I don't have anything on handto like prove this at the moment
.
I'm not anti-marriage either,by the way, guys.
So, or commitment, all thesethings, I love it, you know, I'm
committed.
So right yeah, but uh, no,originally it was just simply
contractual, it was just to makesure nobody would mess nothing
up.
And you know it's weird, thecultures will go from like the
(18:55):
some well, when they're like thepeasants or I don't even know,
just normal lords Sometimes,like the father has to give the
dowry to marry off the daughters, and then obviously I've seen
it where it's the other wayaround.
You know, you would almostthink it'd be the guy if him and
his best man aren't out therekidnapping, you know.
So that's pretty amazing,pretty weird rituals.
(19:18):
You got any other ones?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is a good one.
They seem like they're gettingahead of themselves.
A Czech wedding.
Before the ceremony, an infantis placed on the bed Of the
soon-to-be-wed couple as a signto help fertility.
It doesn't say where they gotthis, that baby, oh, my god, I
don't know.
But yeah, have babies on handTo put on Bed.
(19:42):
It's like, yeah, again, maybeit's an they don't get married.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, they probably just grabbed An orphan baby.
Okay, you know, rent a baby,rent, rent a baby.
Yeah, why not?
I mean, shoot, it's a.
It's part of the life, I guess?
No, that's part of the life, Iguess?
No, that's pretty great.
You know, what I was thinkingabout is they need, you know, to
get them some marshmallow rootthere.
(20:06):
You go.
Yeah, that was definitely afertility thing.
That's all I was thinking.
You can check that out in ourmarshmallow plant episode,
because that's just how we rollIf you didn't know there was a
marshmallow plant, because Isure the fuck didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
No, I figured that having like a little marshmallow
growing on it, oh, is that likethe yeah, yeah, the Twinkie
shrub?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, that's exactly right, my friend, that's exactly
right.
Yeah, these weddings throughouthistory are pretty weird and I
haven't really attended thatmany in my life.
I won't lie.
I went to three as an adult andI'm 42, so yeah, I haven't been
to very many weddings.
I remember going to a few as akid, but that was about it.
(20:48):
So I'm not speaking from awhole lot of experience over
here, but, yeah, a lot of, a lotof marriage stuff.
You know, I've.
You know, if we really wantedto dig into some weird shit
which I think we did but if youwere to bring up more, just a
little bit.
Yeah, more examples of it.
That, like it would be prettyeasy, because you would just
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look up like old unions and howthey went down from back in the
medieval and times and beforethat and whatever, and almost
every situation situation wouldhave probably been like a
kidnapping with the best man andstuff like that and some
craziness, or trading fortrading for whatever.
Who the fuck knows right.
Goats and such doesn't seemright.
(21:32):
Guys, doesn't seem right.
And women's rights have came along way, people.
That doesn't mean we shouldstop them, though, either.
Even that playing field.
I'm not anti, definitely notanti-women here.
Okay, guys Not at all.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We're advocating not to spit on them.
Yeah, I don't like that Expiredto eat items or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
What the fuck?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I'm not trying to feed anyone out of a toilet.
That one's fucking bizarre orwhatever.
Right, what the fuck?
I'm not trying to feed anyoneout of a toilet.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, that one's fucking bizarre Like yeah, no,
they came out, they came out,yeah, yeah.
On, it on that one Right.
At least with the spittingthing.
I don't know what culturalrelevance that has.
You know it's a totallydifferent thing.
They believe in way differentthings than I do, you know.
So who knows where it comesfrom and how long it's been
there, whereas, like the French,eating out of a toilet of like
(22:25):
just mixed together food andalcohol sounds terrible.
I just don't get it.
I'm going to assume the worstSacre bleu yeah yeah, sacre bleu
, I'm going to assume the worstand just think that this is
probably a normally used toiletthat they do this with.
Yeah, I didn't want to thinkabout that, but thank you.
Yeah, well, now you know.
Now you're hearing about it.
Yeah, yeah, I wonder, do theyuse forks?
(22:47):
Do they put their head in it?
What do they do?
I don't know.
It's like reverse vomitingSomething.
Okay, fuck that, never mind,sorry guys In.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Fiji, the groom-to-be , is supposed to present his
future father-in-law with awhale's tooth.
That's cool and as the writersays, nothing says I love you
like a sperm whale tooth, Iguess.
Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Dun-dun-dun.
I wonder if sperm whales haveteeth or if they're like the
ones that just have the bigbristly things.
So who knows?
Oh, I don't know Well so there,I'm not a marine biologist,
you're not George Costanza.
Okay, not George Costanza.
That's an amazing episode.
Definitely yeah, marriage ismarriage is different.
(23:34):
All the, all the things that gointo it.
And then here we got peoplespitting on people.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Don't think this hasn't been charming Perfect.
Oh hoi hoi Hola.
Hey, what's up bro?
How's this fine day treatingyou?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh, not too bad.
Just done some ribeye tacosHanging out pretty much.
Year anniversary for Cold Smokeslash Boogie's Bodega.
So the honey's shining.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, hell yeah.
Congratulations on thatachievement, for sure.
So we're here to let's notdress the situation up or down.
We're here to get to the factsabout, you know, just different
wedding situations, weird littlelike rituals or things of that
nature and what's kind ofinspired the topic, I guess,
(00:37):
which is a pretty big one.
It's not like we sought outsome weird thing to talk about.
It's weddings.
Okay, okay, guys, owen just,but he just attended a wedding
in California.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Below Reading, I feel right, just, barely yeah,
reading area 104 degrees, but itwas awesome.
My cousin, hannah marriedArmando, was both awesome people
and yeah, they didn't doanything weird like these lists,
just a more traditional hangoutto get the cake, get the food.
Yeah, it was awesome, but I did.
(01:14):
I had to just write down.
I felt you know my thoughts onflying and I reached, for we
previously spoke about the LaFonda at the Plaza.
I think and we're laughing thatit was Pip's girlfriend on
Napoleon Dynamite.
I go to grab a pen at my mom'shouse and it's a La Fonda pen.
(01:35):
Oh my god.
So she stayed at La Fonda at thePlaza, which, yeah, colt was
saying, oh, we should go staythere.
I'm like, yeah, totally, here'sSanta Fe's nice.
Yeah, the rooms start at $509.
So a little above our pay grade.
Why, if you guys want to kickin some bucks for An I-Tel
Stories trip to La Fonda at thePlaza, we're probably staying at
(01:58):
the Condo Lodge.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Right, is it pretty fancy looking?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't understand, oh yeah, it looks like it's like
a resort In Santa Fe.
From what I understand, it's apretty Upscale, not in a bad way
, but like really cool city.
So people realize they canCharge extra money when a place
is really cool, right, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, that makes sense to me.
I understand that this weddingyou went to, you know, you just
you were nervous about some ofthe aspects of, you know,
traveling and you just you knowyour business and all these
things, and I understand youwrote something about flying,
was it?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, yeah, just when I was done and I've done a lot
of flying Like, my parents weredivorced when I was a kid and I
fly from Northern to SouthernCalifornia.
I liked it.
Yeah, sometimes because I was alittle kid, they bought me up
to first class and I got todrink as much soda as I wanted,
but now it's just like it's sucha chore so I felt like I had to
just jot down my, my feelings.
(02:58):
Flying it's essentially beingheld captive in an overpriced
mall with worse food for hourson end.
Then, if luck is with you andthe hours don't compound, yeah,
yeah, all right.
Well, hey, you know what I like?
That Brief and to the point,okay, well, and.
(03:27):
And then, of course, like I didsit next to like A really
awesome woman hand and we justtalked the whole time.
So, like, sometimes you Look outand you sit next to like cool
people, but mostly you areseriously surrounded by people,
just like.
And then, like, some kid Willshriek you're expecting like a
Cat to yowl or something.
Oh my god, like a constant.
Anyway, yeah, my funny.
And some kid will shriek it'slike a cat to yowl or something.
Oh, my God, it's like aconstant.
(03:49):
Anyway, yeah, my funny take ongoing to a wedding, but again,
beautiful wedding.
I couldn't be happier for them.
Lots of awesome people there.
That's great man.
Well, congrats to them.
Yeah, and while there are noodd wedding traditions, at least
nothing even approaching someof the ones we're going to
discuss.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I got a couple that are like our normal ones as
well.
I went all around here.
But nothing weird happened atthe wedding to where they didn't
like no, yeah, okay, thatsounds good.
I'm going to start off like youknow.
Just dip our toe into thewedding watchers Owen here.
And sounds good.
I'm going to start off like youknow, just dip our toe into the
wedding waters Owen here.
And not that we already have, Iguess, with the talk at the
(04:31):
beginning of the show here.
But everybody in America knows,you know, like, what's a wedding
dress?
What color is it typically?
Right, white, white, right,well, it's a thing.
But historically, historically,brides would just use their
best dresses, so it could be anycolor, and this was a thing
(04:52):
because obviously not everybodycould afford to have a white
dress.
It would just get dirty andclothes were kind of a big deal.
They were expensive guys backin the day.
So that wasn't a new thinguntil 1840 when Queen Victoria
donned a white dress and itbecame fashionable.
So all the other lore around itwas basically because of the
(05:13):
Victorian era, like the purity,all these, etc.
Things.
Wearing white, you know, at awedding isn't, isn't as old as
it, as we might think it wouldbe.
I guess there there's no real.
That's a pretty moderninvention and it just caught on
from there, you know.
So there's a simple little fact, guys 1840, that's when the
(05:34):
white wedding dress came intoplay.
So not that bizarre but, yeah,not as bizarre as maybe one that
might come from Owen's mouthover here.
Do you got a good one for me?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, I just looked up.
I was kind of thinking maybelike just interesting or bizarre
weddings themselves, but Ifound, on a website called the
Travel, 30 weird weddingtraditions.
We won't cover all of them, butthey come out swinging, oh no.
So you know France, well knownfor elegance and great food and
(06:04):
beautiful landscapes, and I'mjust going to read right from
the travel On the day of aFrench wedding, the guests fill
a toilet bowl with all theleftovers which were once deemed
delicious and mix them withalcohol and everything they
desire.
Then the couple is obliged tofinish the bowl in order to
build up strength for the taxingwedding night that is ahead of
(06:25):
them.
What?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Why?
Why, that doesn't seem likeanything.
Okay, I don't know, this iswhere we defecate people.
Now eat this, eat this.
Your marriage is going to belike that.
It's a drunken food fest.
I guess I don't know what'sgoing on.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
To gain strength, though I don't know what's going
on.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
To gain strength though I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I don't know either, Okay go ahead.
Well then, here's another oneIn me beloved ancestral land of
Scotland.
Apparently, just like the nightbefore the wedding, the woman
is bathed in smelliness, as theysay, and anything you can find,
(07:11):
if it's just minced meat, fish,flowers, sauces, anything gross
.
And then they all go out on thetown.
Her and her friends go out onthe town, it says.
After bathing her in smelliness, she's been taken for a night
out with her friends Like abachelorette party.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Gross guys Sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
In India, a woman sometimes will marry a tree
before marrying her husband.
Huh, and this comment is somewomen would probably be better
off staying married to a tree.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think that could be played on both
sides, but yes, I agree withthat, yes, yes, oh, my goodness,
what a beautiful thing.
Hey, on my boring wedding factsover here.
Do you know where the best mancame from?
By any chance you know, I don'tknow.
(08:08):
Anyway, staten Island, fairenough, maybe just somebody, I
guess.
Yes, originally the best manwasn't just a supportive friend,
but a skilled swordsman.
His primary role was to assistthe groom in kidnapping the
bride from disapproving familiesor rival suitors.
The best got you off guard, Ithink a little bit.
(08:30):
The best referred to is hisprowess in combat, ensuring the
groom's plans proceeded withoutinterference.
Alright, alright, guys.
So that used to happen.
That was a thing at one pointin time.
Be grateful, princesses, that'snot a thing at one point in
time.
Be grateful, princesses, that'snot a thing.
Because that sounds terrible,guys, I don't think anybody
(08:50):
should ever be forced into doinganything like that at all, or
anything really, but nonetheless, sorry about that, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
No, listen, I don't even I'm not sure where this is,
but M-A-U-R-I-T-I-U-S MeridiusBrides-to-be are sent to fat
camps where they are forced toeat more and gain fat.
The chubbier the soon-to-bewife, the better, as it is a
sign of wealth, and also the menconsider bigger women to be
(09:20):
sexier.
Yeah, and this writer says now,this is my type of wedding
being forced to eat, Gettingmarried like burping.
Oh, my God Boo, that makes me,you make me want to find Do they
just have like a trough at theGolden Corral that they make
these with.
I don't know if they have.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I don't understand that either.
Now, you made me have to.
Oh, here it is.
I found it.
Good thing I'm so.
My notes are organized, people,I tell stories, so I got one
that'll complement your last oneI filled.
Okay, so newlyweds in theTadong tribe I think that's how
you say it.
(10:01):
People in Indonesia, it's atoilet ban for the newlyweds.
The Tadong community inIndonesia observes a strict
post-wedding ritual, my friends,where newlyweds are prohibited
from using the bathroom forthree days and nights.
This practice is believed toensure harmonious marriage,
prevent misfortune such asinfidelity or death of offspring
(10:22):
.
Okay, I don't know what studiesthey have to back this up, but
everybody out there, justconsider it, you know, don't pee
for three days or poop forwhatever.
Nothing, nothing, guys.
Is it before or after Newlyweds?
So that would be presumingafter right, I would presume.
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, okay.
So after you get married, howdo they prevent you from doing
that?
Like you know, is it physicallypossible to hold it for three
days?
I don't think that would beadvised by a physician.
I'm pretty sure it'd run downmy leg at some point, man when I
when I wake up, oh my god.
There's times when you have topull over and just pee wherever
you can find a spot.
(11:03):
My friend, you know that's partof being a guy is supposed to
be right there, but nonetheless.
In Romania, the wife is abductedbefore the marriage that's
fantastic by the best man, I'mpresuming.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's either like family or friends or hired
actors and then the groom has topay to get her back, which is
usually like a silly littleperformance or like a bottle of
booze or something, but stillit's kind of keeping with the
good old Mother's Day Serbiantradition of tying mom up.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well, yeah, serbia, romania, whatever Potato, potato
, but nonetheless I get it.
I wasn't saying that I I get it.
I wasn't saying that I know Iget it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
They steal shoes in India after marrying a tree.
The bright side of the family'smission, according to this, is
to steal shoes, while thegroom's side protects issues
from being absconded with.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh my goodness, oh my goodness, that can be
problematic.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Sticking with that.
In South Korea they beat thegroom's feet.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Okay, did they misspell that?
I don't know, anyway, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, they beat his feet with sticks or dried fish.
What it's supposed to make surethe soon-to-be husband does not
disappoint on his wedding night.
I don't know what's going onthere in South Korea, but why
fish?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Why fish?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
In China, three weeks before the wedding, the mother
and bride Daily just weeptogether and finally the
grandmother Joins in.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Why Did you say why?
Yet again, I want to know why.
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, they know what's coming.
Like the grandma Is really justlike.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay, no, I'm not.
What are they like?
I'm sorry we're women in China,is that Sorry?
I don't care, it's probably nota Anyway nonetheless, guys, no,
I won't be getting married.
Okay, yeah, let's stop it rightthere, Urch, Anyway.
So on another note, you know,bridesmaids, in the weddings
(13:17):
they usually their dresses match.
You know it's a thing, guys.
You know it's a coordinatedwedding.
They're just trying to presentsomething Easy for you to say
yeah.
In ancient times, bridesmaidsdressed identically to the bride
to confuse evil spirits andjealous ex-lovers, apparently
Because they couldn't just seewhat they looked like, I guess.
So this tactic aimed to protectthe bride by making it
(13:38):
difficult for malevolent forcesto single her out.
So that's the purpose of it.
So they all dress like twins,but I wonder if they wore face
coverings or if this was justkind of whatever.
Yet again, I wonder if this islike a thing when they mention
the jealous ex-lover.
So in If this is a thing likeif people are trying to attack
and snatch these poor women.
Jesus, we've been taking a darkturn, I know it all seems to be
(14:08):
pointing in that direction ofmen abducting women and then
marrying them Right.
Yowies, yeah, yowzers.
Where does that come from,yowzers?
What is that?
You know?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Sounds like a cartoon to me, but here's a lighter one
In Quebec, french-canadian.
Hey, they are known to.
But here's a lighter one InQuebec, french-canadian they are
known to.
It's called the silly sockdance.
They wear high colorful socksand dance about and then throw
money which seems like justcoins that could hurt, or like
throwing paper doesn't seem likeit would go very well.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
But yeah, right, but yeah.
Then the money is donated, Iguess, to the hopefully happy
couple yeah, issued intomarriage by dancing around in
silly colorful high socks.
Sounds great, sounds amazing.
Sounds very Canadian.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yes, it does.
Go Canada, elbows up Canada.
Alright, there we are.
Nonetheless, that sounds veryCanadian.
Yes, it does.
Yeah, go Canada, elbows upCanada.
All right, there we are.
Nonetheless, you know what Ididn't see and I just thought of
while you were doing that,before I get to one I have on
deck, is I didn't see like wherethe putting cans and such
behind the car as you drive away.
You know where that came from.
I imagine it's just to kind ofdraw attention to the car and
(15:21):
make noise.
Now that I think about it, but,surprising, they don't have any
sort of ritualistic like hey,this is why we do it anyway.
So now I don't know if this islike some sort of weird website
thing or if it's an actualtradition.
Tradition, but spitting on thebride apparently is a thing in
(15:46):
Kenya.
I might say this wrong guys,because who knows, I suppose on
my end of the stick, the Masaitribe in Kenya, a father's act
of spitting on his daughter'shead and chest before her
departure to her husband's homewas a profound gesture.
This ritual is believed totransfer blessings, wisdom and
good fortune, while also servingas protection against evil
(16:06):
spirits and misfortune.
So apparently he's spitting onthe poor girl.
That is how you send her off.
Get out of my house.
Why are they always doing badthings to these women?
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't know, I don't know.
I kind of like this one, though.
Hopefully you see the Mexico,the lasso.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So after the vows are spoken and friends and family
then come out and lasso thehappy couple together.
So, like, as the writer says, Iguess this is the true
definition of tying the knot.
Hey, but that's kind of cool,spitting on people or rubbing,
beating them with fish orcovering them in goop or what's
(16:50):
going on, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Some people out there need a good fish beaten, but
you know I don't understand whatit comes from.
So that's, there's a lot ofthem.
Tree planting ceremonies in thePhilippines.
In the Philippines, somecouples incorporate a tree
planting ceremony into theirwedding by planting a sapling
together.
That one's kind of cute.
All right, there we are.
That's not too bad.
It's just a testament to theirunion, apparently.
(17:14):
Huh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't mind that one .
Um, this one sounds like it.
Um, yeah, I don't mind that one.
This one sounds like it.
Yeah, I don't know.
All this French Polynesia, Allthe bride's relatives lie face
down on the ground in a linewhile the bride and groom walk
over them as if they were a rugbeneath their feet.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh, that doesn't sound very fun.
What is with this shit?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
guys, it could be somewhat dangerous, especially
if it was one of the ones thatwent to the fat camp.
Oh no, sorry, there is.
You're not supposed to smile ata Congolese wedding in the
Congo, Wow, and you know, oftenit's livestock is exchanged for
(18:02):
the wife's hand in marriage.
Yeah, this woman says well, Iwouldn't be smiling either if
someone sold me in exchange fora cow or a horse.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Good point, spot on.
Yeah, that's a thing.
That is definitely a thing.
You know, marriage really onlycame about in the way that we
know it simply for contracts.
That that's like literally theonly reason why there was there
was.
It wasn't until later on thatthey put love in the mix, and
that's just the truth of it.
(18:31):
Yeah, you know, I I didn't.
I don't have anything on handto like prove this at the moment
.
I'm not anti-marriage either,by the way, guys.
So, or commitment, all thesethings, I love it, you know, I'm
committed.
So right yeah, but uh, no,originally it was just simply
contractual, it was just to makesure nobody would mess nothing
up.
And you know it's weird, thecultures will go from like the
(18:55):
some well, when they're like thepeasants or I don't even know,
just normal lords Sometimes,like the father has to give the
dowry to marry off the daughters, and then obviously I've seen
it where it's the other wayaround.
You know, you would almostthink it'd be the guy if him and
his best man aren't out therekidnapping, you know.
So that's pretty amazing,pretty weird rituals.
(19:18):
You got any other ones?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is a good one.
They seem like they're gettingahead of themselves.
A Czech wedding.
Before the ceremony, an infantis placed on the bed Of the
soon-to-be-wed couple as a signto help fertility.
It doesn't say where they gotthis, that baby, oh, my god, I
don't know.
But yeah, have babies on handTo put on Bed.
(19:42):
It's like, yeah, again, maybeit's an they don't get married.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, they probably just grabbed An orphan baby.
Okay, you know, rent a baby,rent, rent a baby.
Yeah, why not?
I mean, shoot, it's a.
It's part of the life, I guess?
No, that's part of the life, Iguess?
No, that's pretty great.
You know, what I was thinkingabout is they need, you know, to
get them some marshmallow rootthere.
(20:06):
You go.
Yeah, that was definitely afertility thing.
That's all I was thinking.
You can check that out in ourmarshmallow plant episode,
because that's just how we rollIf you didn't know there was a
marshmallow plant, because Isure the fuck didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
No, I figured that having like a little marshmallow
growing on it, oh, is that likethe yeah, yeah, the Twinkie
shrub?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, that's exactly right, my friend, that's exactly
right.
Yeah, these weddings throughouthistory are pretty weird and I
haven't really attended thatmany in my life.
I won't lie.
I went to three as an adult andI'm 42, so yeah, I haven't been
to very many weddings.
I remember going to a few as akid, but that was about it.
(20:48):
So I'm not speaking from awhole lot of experience over
here, but, yeah, a lot of, a lotof marriage stuff.
You know, I've.
You know, if we really wantedto dig into some weird shit
which I think we did but if youwere to bring up more, just a
little bit.
Yeah, more examples of it.
That, like it would be prettyeasy, because you would just
(21:08):
look up like old unions and howthey went down from back in the
medieval and times and beforethat and whatever, and almost
every situation situation wouldhave probably been like a
kidnapping with the best man andstuff like that and some
craziness, or trading fortrading for whatever.
Who the fuck knows right.
Goats and such doesn't seemright.
(21:32):
Guys, doesn't seem right.
And women's rights have came along way, people.
That doesn't mean we shouldstop them, though, either.
Even that playing field.
I'm not anti, definitely notanti-women here.
Okay, guys Not at all.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We're advocating not to spit on them.
Yeah, I don't like that Expiredto eat items or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
What the fuck?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I'm not trying to feed anyone out of a toilet.
That one's fucking bizarre orwhatever.
Right, what the fuck?
I'm not trying to feed anyoneout of a toilet.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, that one's fucking bizarre Like yeah, no,
they came out, they came out,yeah, yeah.
On, it on that one Right.
At least with the spittingthing.
I don't know what culturalrelevance that has.
You know it's a totallydifferent thing.
They believe in way differentthings than I do, you know.
So who knows where it comesfrom and how long it's been
there, whereas, like the French,eating out of a toilet of like
(22:25):
just mixed together food andalcohol sounds terrible.
I just don't get it.
I'm going to assume the worstSacre bleu yeah yeah, sacre bleu
, I'm going to assume the worstand just think that this is
probably a normally used toiletthat they do this with.
Yeah, I didn't want to thinkabout that, but thank you.
Yeah, well, now you know.
Now you're hearing about it.
Yeah, yeah, I wonder, do theyuse forks?
(22:47):
Do they put their head in it?
What do they do?
I don't know.
It's like reverse vomitingSomething.
Okay, fuck that, never mind,sorry guys In.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Fiji, the groom-to-be , is supposed to present his
future father-in-law with awhale's tooth.
That's cool and as the writersays, nothing says I love you
like a sperm whale tooth, Iguess.
Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Dun-dun-dun.
I wonder if sperm whales haveteeth or if they're like the
ones that just have the bigbristly things.
So who knows?
Oh, I don't know Well so there,I'm not a marine biologist,
you're not George Costanza.
Okay, not George Costanza.
That's an amazing episode.
Definitely yeah, marriage ismarriage is different.
(23:34):
All the, all the things that gointo it.
And then here we got peoplespitting on people.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Don't think this hasn't been charming Perfect.
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