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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ahoy hoy.
Hello there.
Hello Ahoy to you on this verysummer day, as we are going to
talk about Tetons.
Right Indeed, we are the GrandTetons, nonetheless.
Oh yeah, you actually were justthere.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, it was actually the second day of summer,
technically.
My friend Kyle and I and thedoogs went out there, although
dogs can't get out in the park,so it wasn't much fun for them.
But well, boogs loves to just gofor the car rides.
But anyway, yeah, it was fun.
It was a lot of driving, it wasgorgeous.
We were both like, well, we'renot sorry, we did it, it was

(00:43):
beautiful, it was gorgeous.
We were both like, well, we'renot sorry, we did it.
You know, it was beautiful.
We don't need to do thatanytime soon, because we just
did it in a day.
We just drove out from my mom'scabin, that's a couple hours
away.
Right, had we stayed orsomething.
I mean, it's worth goingAbsolutely.
Yeah, we just kind of like,yeah, tried to pack it into a
day and it was, it was fine.
But it was just sort of like,yeah, we'd, um, but the thing to

(01:05):
stay, that's the other.
The average, uh, you know, ifyou're actually in the park,
it's a thousand bucks a night.
Oh wow.
So that's kind of if youactually got like a room at a
lodge.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
So yeah, it's very exclusionary um, that's very
discouraging for average joe.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Right, I mean you can camp and stuff like that, so I
don't again.
All this is my funnydisposition, but yeah absolutely
gorgeous.
You can't really even uh, youknow, kyle said he's like, well,
I took pictures, but it's just,it's kind of pointless unless
you're actually there.
Yeah, it doesn where it's likeoh, you know they say like oh, I
saw this.
It makes you feel like reallysmall and not even in a bad way,

(01:46):
but it was like yeah, whenyou're underneath I think the
Grand Teton's like 13,775 feet.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, above sea level .

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Almost a 14er I heard this guy kept referring them to
almost 14ers.
Apparently, 14,000 feet's a bigdeal and for the Grand Tetons
to have a peak that is thatclose is pretty crazy, from what
I know from a geologicalstandpoint and I don't know
anything about that really butbasically it's one of the
youngest mountain ranges in theAmericas from what I understand.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes, yeah, and in the whole world, apparently I'm
with you.
I don't know anything.
I was wondering.
If then it goes by Young T Shutup.
That's the street name.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
No please, no.
So the Grand Teton NationalPark covers 3,994994 acres boy,
I did really good at that or 484square miles, ellen, did you
know that?
I did not?

(02:54):
All right, and an average of uh3,885,000 people uh visit each
year as of 2021 is where thisnumber comes from and my uh some
of my resources that I wasreading up on here from a
website called national park iswhat I got a lot of this yeah.
So just a little quick fun facts, like I'll just do this because

(03:17):
this is kind of rinky-dink crapanyway, uh, so what are the
highest and lowest elevations inGrand Teton National Park?
You may ask.
Grand Teton's lowest point is6,310 feet at Fish Creek, and
the highest point as you justtouched on is Grand Teton,

(03:37):
13,770 feet Pretty neat, wowyeah.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, definitely All kinds of wildlife there too.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Of course, Bears, elk , all kinds of birds, Apparently
ranging from the calliopehummingbird, that's the smallest
found on the North Americancontinent, up to the trumpeter
swan, that's the largestwaterfowl found.
So for your bird fans like Ma,Teton's a great place to go

(04:05):
check out some wildlife,including the birds.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Maybe that would be extreme bird watching, perhaps?
Yeah, we touched on on theExtreme Hobbies episode.
What would extreme birdwatching be in the midst of all
these other extreme hobbies,like ironing and such, and we
weren't sure.
But I think if you wereshooting for, like, the smallest
of the small bird and thelargest of the large, that's

(04:29):
kind of extreme, I don't know.
Just a thought, sorry aboutthat.
So, yeah, it's fauna, as youwere just speaking on.
What a word that is, isn't thatamazing?
It includes 61 mammal specieselk, moose, bison, pronghorn

(04:50):
which are some of my favoriteand one of the only I think it's
the only mammal that's stillalive in North America from and
without being, like, changed inany way from the Ice Age, about
10,000, 12,000 years ago,possibly longer, I don't know,
but they've been around for awhile and they're also, like,
the fastest land animal, I feel,which is oh wow, yeah, and I

(05:13):
was just sorry.
Now I'm excited.
I was just listening tosomething not too long ago and
they're talking about saidpronghorn species and how
they're driving along a dirtroad in their car going probably
I'm guessing like 40 miles anhour, 50, I just can't quite
remember.
It was up in that range and thethe pronghorn was keeping up
with their car and then therewas a fence and it just

(05:35):
disappeared, and so the guy waslike what the hell?
Well, what happened was hispronghorns don't jump over
fences like other deer.
That's why you don't see himhanging on the side.
If you're used to being in arural area, it's not uncommon to
sometimes see a deer who diedon a fence because it got caught
trying to jump it.
Well, pronghorns slide underthem.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's amazing.
It was running as fast as a carslid under the fence, a barbed
wire fence.
I thought that was prettyimpressive.
Magic that may be happening inthe Tetons, guys.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, they can maintain speed for quite a while
too.
We see them out on the flats bythe cabin where you can see the
Grand Teton, Mount Owen and, Ithink, Mount Moran.
Just barely see them on a clearday from the deck of the cabin.
It's a rough go of it out there.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh, I bet.
Yeah, that's amazing man.
It's actually one of theshorter mountain ranges as well.
I didn't get the.
I think it's 40 miles long Like40 miles yeah.
All right, nice, I couldn'tremember.
But comparative to othermountain ranges that you know,
like the Rockies are likethousands or something, huh,
like I don't know.
But Well, it's part of theRockies, oh, is it?
Okay, see, shows how much Iknow about mountains, bro.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, I'm not well aware of those, but I'm pretty
sure.
Yeah, it's just a, it's a thing, a range in the.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Z.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Rockies, z Rockies.
And it's the only park, withnational park, with an airport.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but
I'm sure a lot of these thingsthat you're talking about,
especially like how expensive itcould be to stay there, has
something to do with itsdistance from Jackson Hole.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, it's right there.
That's like Ritz-y For one.
Wyoming's a very tax-friendlyfor the super rich.
It's a very nice place to parksome money.
Pretend that you live there andit's really just the house you
visit for a few weeks a year orsomething, and it's worth $20

(07:41):
million.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, that totally helps out locals, huh, like the
Wyoming folks.
I'm sure that just what do theycall that?
Trickle down?
There's a bunch of money in thestate it's going to, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, that didn't work out so good with
Reaganomics, no, but Meemaw'sgoing to move out of our trailer
.
Keep on hoping for people.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Right, yeah, keep on listening.
Yeah, keep on listening.
Yeah, for sure Don't.
Well, it's not like I'm rich,I'm pretty broke, I mean no.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I have butter pretzels and I'm quite Pleased
with myself.
Yeah, no, I'm content.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Those are my assets.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I've tried Tipping the the fridge and some butter
Grated pretzels, yeah Right, alittle short To Jackson money,
hey yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I, yeah Right, a little shard of Jackson money.
Hey, yeah, yeah, I gotcha man.
The Snake River, which alsoflows through the Tetons, is
known to actually be one of thecleanest, hmm.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
It kicked that pesky heroin habit, damn.
That's yeah, I suppose.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
So, tripping up a bit , one of the things I thought
was kind of fascinating thatjust made me your heroin joke
made me think of that for somereason.
But a lot of the rock formationor a lot of the rocks, the
physical rocks like you know,you got like granite, sandstone,
all that kind of stuff isactually.
They call it nice, so it's likethe Tetons are NICE.

(09:04):
I don't know, this is what Ithought.
Sorry, but it's an acronym forsome sort of thing, and I don't
know if you were able to see anyof these rocks, but apparently
they look like they have like azebra pattern but they resemble
granite.
But it's actually a rock calledNICE.
Huh, a lot of N nice Tetons, myfriend.
Awfully nice though.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Nice Tetons.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, well, hey, you know.
Speaking of that, let's justget it out of the way, because I
think anybody that's going totalk about the Tetons is going
to bring up the name, right?
Yes, do you have anywhere inyour notes that explains how
this place was named, do you?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
have anywhere in your notes that explains how this
place was named?
Not exactly, but yeah, they arenamed after breast cysts.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, that's a true fact, guys.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
There was also.
I didn't know if people weremessing with me at the cabin as
a kid, because I rememberhearing that and you never know
Adults like to.
But yeah, sure enough.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, god bless them.
Right, and it was originallylike or something like that, and
twa is actually three in french, just so you're aware.
So it's all right, yeah so it'slike three breasts, because
there's three peaks which islike the lady from total recall
yeah, apparently.
So the movie not out yet.
Guys, that's weird, I didn'teven think of that.
Good job, hey, this almostsounds like a dad joke but Sorry

(10:31):
.
High five, yeah, alright, way toget it in there, owen, alright,
anyway.
Hey, what time zone is GrandTeton National Park located?
In Mountains, ooh yeah, thatsounds like a joke, doesn't it?
I don't know, it's just a.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's not even a dad joke, that's like a fucking.
Yeah, I don't know GreatGrandpa deceased at Thanksgiving
table joke.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Okay, sorry.
Yeah, it can be, it could beconsidered as such.
So, yeah, the Tetons also,though itself could come from
the Lakota word I don't know ifI'm saying that right, I
apologize Meaning village on theprairie, french-canadian

(11:22):
trappers, who later named themountains Grand Ketons, meaning
big breasts, but originally,like I said, it was like Trois
Ketons or something, and arealso part of the region's
history.
So the and the Lakota Siouxreally have like a, a big
history.
There in that mountain range,my friend, there's a, there's
actually an animal, uh, in theirfolklore that's known to be out

(11:43):
there, and I don't want to Iprobably won't say it all the
way, right, but I'm gonna giveit a good shot.
Guys, it's the meh, meh, wahtoo.
This creature okay, owen isdescribed as a large amphibious
being, not unlike the underwaterpanther, I, I think you know,
in a weird way, uh, but it hasbuffalo like a buffalo like body

(12:04):
and red hair and a single horn,as opposed to, like you know,
the horns of a buffalo normallywould be.
So it has a buffalo like body.
I'm really interested in this,um, and then it has a notched
back like a saw.
These are the things that ittells me.
So use your imagination, people.
I don't know if that's going tohelp anybody, but apparently it
can swim very powerfully atnight, causing the water to turn

(12:28):
and glow.
Encountering one during the dayis believed to cause confusion,
vision loss, madness andultimately death.
Yeah, so that's a thing.
There is a water buffalo in theTetons that is trying to
confuse and kill you.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, so, and also I know that there's Some lore
around the Thunderbird Residingin the Tetons For these people
as well.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Thunderbird gets around.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, well, it's the Thunderbird, Bro, come on.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, it travels well .
Yeah, I did.
Well, it's the Thunderbird, bro, come on.
It travels well.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I did see that it's come back, but because of fur
trapping being such a big dealin the area, the beaver
population was almost done.
But then the mountain man erafaded away and silk hats became
more popular and fashionablethan the beaver hats, which
we'll leave that one alone.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, yeah, beaver hats.
Nonetheless.
Yeah, they did do away withthose.
It was almost full extinction,from what I understand, from how
they're trapping and stuff inthere.
One creature from the Tetonsthat has gotten away and it's
very elusive Owen, you may befamiliar with now that you've

(13:44):
been stationed in Montana for awhile.
I'm not sure if the rest of thenation is, but have you ever
heard of a jackalope?
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, it's a creature who's got.
You know, it's kind of like abunch of tails.
It's a Wyoming folklore type ofdeal.
You know, it's kind of like abunch of tales, it's a Wyoming
folklore type of deal.
But the jackalope is said to bea horned rabbit that races
across the plains, prairies,mountainsides and riverbeds of

(14:08):
Grand Teton National Park andother parts of Wyoming, and this
creature's no joke.
Apparently they sell jackalopehunting licenses in Wyoming as
well.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I ate jackalope once actually.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Really.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Really.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Really yeah.
How did that go?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, it's funny too, cause I told Brooke Friend of
the show, dear friend, and shewas like, um, owen, you know,
that's a Fictional animal right.
And I was like, yes, I do,brooke, it was.
Uh, they, it was essentiallylike a Somewhat fancy game Hot
dog, they mix Antelope meat withfucking jackrabbit.

(14:46):
Oh my God.
Yeah, it was not the highlightof the game platter, but anywho,
to say the least.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, so well.
Antelope's notoriously not thebest meat.
Right, I know I've heard thatyeah, because they really just
run, run, run, you know, andthat doesn't make for a good
meet, and neither doesJackrabbit.
From what I've heard, it'spretty stringy from some.
I think Donnie Hill folks mighthave filled me in on that.
One Friend of the show.

(15:16):
Oh, he's full of the knowledgeman, being as he's from Soldotna
, alaska, you know, and then andthen montana, you know.
So there we are, just donniehill folks.
That's all I gotta say, guys.
Uh, you know, I felt like wecovered a lot of good stuff here
about the great, uh, the grandtetons, the great tetons, uh,
you know.
But I wanted to add insomething that I think we may

(15:38):
have forgot and I I just brieflylooked into it, so this isn't
like a major point, guys, I'mgoing to do a lot of referencing
to a wakeupwyomingcom articlethat I read.
That TV show claims aliens mayinhabit Wyoming's Grand Tetons.
Have you heard anything aboutthis, owen?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I have not.
I'm very interested too here.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, okay.
So the claim was that back inthe 1930s, an explorer found a
cave that led into one of themountains in the teton range and
while exploring it, he wasgreeted by some strange
alien-like creatures.
And guess what, owen?
They gave him a tour, bro.
They were friendly, I guess.
Apparently.
Eventually, um, there was some2 000 feet or so below the
mountain and they showed him abunch of like technological

(16:23):
wonders, apparently, and a discthat possessed some sort of, uh,
wonderful abilities.
So that's uh, but wait, butwait, there's more.
Okay, um, according to, like the, the show that this was on,
which is ancient aliens by theway, this has something to do
with the Vikings as well and andit it goes on further to say

(16:52):
that, uh, the host, uh the video, that uh in the show claims
that Wyoming was selected forthe aliens because of Bigfoot,
and he's dead, fucking seriousguys.
So I don't know if there's anyvalidity to this podcast, landia
, um, but apparently he claimsthe aliens and a Bigfoot have an
unholy alliance fucking seriousguys.
So I don't know if there's anyvalidity to this podcast, landia
, but apparently he claims thealiens and Bigfoot have an
unholy alliance.
Okay, yeah, I think.
Wake Up Wyoming's ontosomething here, guys, you know

(17:14):
Bigfoot and the unholy alliance,and this is a real thing here.
Check this one out.
This is a fun thing.
That's right around there inthe area apparently there's a
green river intergalacticspaceport.
That was actually, uh, it wasstarted off by a joke, I guess
by some city council member,because of the alien stuff that

(17:34):
I'm just talking about now, guys, breaking news or something
like that and uh, basically likeit.
It got legs over years and thefaa actually put the
intergalactic spaceport on theirmap.
So it's the, the intergalacticspaceport for the people
escaping jupiter, apparently isuh recognized, uh by our

(17:55):
government.
Wow, that was involved.
Yeah, I know, right, did I getdeep?
I don't know.
You know that's.
That's when we do thishard-hitting stuff and I tell
stories, guys.
Yeah, you know, you could visitthe website at fitlocksupplycom
and, you know, pick up a shirt,uh, and or subscribe.
You know, I think we got itpretty low.

(18:16):
I think it's only like oh god,I haven't checked for a while,
sorry, subscribers out there,but uh, I think it's like the
lowest is like $3 a month orsomething like that.
But if there's a way to sendeven lower than that, I
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and we use anything we get tofund the show.
Fund it for the fun.

(18:36):
No, I don't buy weed with yourmoney.
Okay, guys, that is not whathappens.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I buy Faberge eggs and break them.
Oh my.
God, I'm unfortunate to have it.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah Well, you have to keep your string cheese
fridge stocked in order tofulfill your extreme hobby of
string cheese braiding.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
This is true?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, if you want to know more about extreme hobbies,
look back a couple episodes.
That's a pretty good oneactually.
So, nonetheless, what are theGrand Titons?
I don't even know.
Is it French?
Is it Spanish?
Like you know, there's a bunchof different.
Like French, yeah, well, that'swhat.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Initially coming into this, I thought that it was a
Spanish-style slang word orsomething.
Until we looked into it, I knowthat Montana is mountains in
Spanish, right?
I'm pretty sure.
Anyway, I know it's based onthat word.
The state of Montana's name isbased on the Spanish word for
mountains, but oh yeah, youdidn't know that.

(19:37):
I was unaware.
Must originally be fromCalifornia.
They're going to fucking runyou out on a rail, bro.
Those Montana folk.
They get feisty about thatstuff.
They're very territorial for noreason sometimes.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, this is my dirt , yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I didn't take this from the natives.
Yeah, come on people.
Anyway, everybody, loveeverybody.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You, you know you need to watch semi pro and you
still haven't have you wewatched it at the shanty one one
time, but we were in the stateof disrepair.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Whiskey was heavily involved, so I don't, I can't
really say right well, there's agreat part in that for
everybody in the locker roomsarguing.
I think woody harrelson'sinvolved and uh uh, andre 2000
is in that movie as well.
I think he's in that part too.
But anyway, they're all arguing, fighting because they're
losing or something, and jackiemoon, played by will ferrell,

(20:34):
comes in and he he just screamsat him everybody love everybody.
I mean, that's how I feelsometimes.
It's like God, you guys, whycan't you just kind of at least
sort of like each other?
I don't know Right, um bro,good episode.
Hey, I'm glad you took a tripto the Tetons.
I think, uh, some of yourexploration probably, you know,

(20:57):
got hindered by the fact of yourtimeline.
You know you didn't have enoughtime to actually enjoy being in
certain areas or something likethat.
I do not know how the nationalpark situation in the US is
looking this year.
I feel it may be dire as far asbathrooms and such.
So if you guys are planning ongoing to any national parks in
the United States, be preparedto poop in the forest guys, and

(21:20):
you can thank Donald Trump forthat sorry much, love everybody,
alright, peace.
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