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Speaker 2 (00:00):
ah boy hola, how's this day going for you, my
friend, on this very I tellstories.
Uh well, would it be afternoonthat we're recording?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I believe it is yeah we're now.
It is 1 22 in the pm mountainstandard time all right.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, now we know for sure.
Now we know you randomly foundthis, like you always do, and
it's about a town called TeninoWashington, I feel is how you
say it Tenino.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Tenino From what my friend Mika, friend of the show
I'm not sure if she's actuallylistened yet, but we'll give her
crap about that, I'll probablysee her today but I mentioned
that we were going to do thisand she said how do you know?
I think I just said, uh, Tinino, and she's like how do you know
?
It's Tinino, that's where mydad's from, I believe.
Oh, and she's like it is,there's nothing there.
(00:54):
There's nothing there.
And um, incidentally, well, alot of us learned at a young age
from Wu-Tang Cash ruleseverything.
Yeah, tenino had its owncurrency and you know we're all
familiar Cheddar, scratch,strilla, bread, paper, loot,
(01:14):
coin, the fabrics, cabbage, deadpresidents Never heard bark
tree pulp or wood chips.
No Well, in 1931 or 2020,tonight in Washington, those
terms would be more appropriate,as they had wooden currency.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Began in the Great Depression,did it not?
1931, like you said, during theGreat Depression tonight, I
know, faced a severe economicdownturn, like most the US,
obviously, at the time.
Thus the Great Depression and alocal bank collapse, leaving
(01:51):
many of his residents withoutaccess to any cash at all.
Basically, even you know, ifthey had it I'm assuming you
know this may be before the dayswhere your money was insured,
right?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's my thought yeah, I think there's something
about there was to be a payout,but who knows how long it would
take, and it was a small enoughcommunity that they could, so
they could still provide oneanother with goods and services.
This would be accepted currencyand then, when the payout did
finally go through, it wouldturn into real money.
From my understanding, yeah,that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It seems like that's the same principle they had here
in 2020, not to deviate toomuch.
But what I read was is theywere, when they reintroduced
this wooden currency during thepandemic same thing, you know,
like people are falling on hardtimes.
And this is a small community.
Uh, I think when I looked atits population, it was like 1970
, as of like 2022 or somethinglike that, so it's a pretty
(02:49):
small town, and they got a grantof sorts, or that's what they
called it, and so the shops thatapproved the currency would
just kind of turn it into thecity hall or whatnot and be
reimbursed.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, so I didn't see anything, though, where I was
interested on.
I wonder how they gave changeor what would go on there,
because I'm assuming maybe it'sone of those deals like for
those of us who are old enoughfor one and for two have ever
been in this situation wherewhen they used to give you paper
booklets for food stamps, youknow they would have different
(03:29):
denominations in there, but ifyou gave them so much they would
give you some change back, youknow, at times, so that's a
thing.
And then on the other end ofthat stick, then it would just
be what it was like.
You know, maybe some placesdidn't and you bought $19 worth
of food.
While you're out your buck theydon't have a dollar food coupon
(03:49):
for you to give back.
You know, so it's.
I don't know.
That's very interesting.
I didn't really think aboutthat.
Yeah, sorry for bringing thatup.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And then it caught on .
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No, the news spread to Seattle and soon collectors
were uh, even, you know,traveling or writing at least to
to 90, asking for pieces of theunique wooden currency.
And it's like by the end of uh19 or in the 1933, by the end of
(04:21):
them printing the word or Idon't know if printing isn't
right, it's like making thewooden money, they'd produced
10,000 worth, which again lotsof money, in fact, still a lot
of money to me, but lots ofmoney back then, especially, oh
yeah, and only $40 was everredeemed.
And so a lot of these notes,wooden notes, are still in
(04:45):
people's collections and worthquite a bit.
I remember when I first sawthis, I was looking on Amazon at
both the 2020 stuff and thenobviously it'd be way cooler to
have the original and I don'tremember exactly, but I didn't
purchase any.
Yeah, it's like market pricewhen you see that on a menu,
like generally, it means yeah,no, yeah, no, thanks, like I
(05:10):
don't know what it is, but Iknow I can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But it would be cool to have some Some currency from
Tanino.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, it makes me feel like we should print our own
Shantyplex currency For oursovereign nation of sorts.
Maybe that's something we coulddo in the future.
The wooden bills were made ofthin sheets of cedar and were
printed using a localnewspaper's printing press.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
To answer some of those questions, I guess you
didn't have to print it.
This is my first go at woodencurrency.
People Forgive me, I'm ignorant.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, you think they'd carve it in.
Is that what you're kind ofthinking?
I mean, maybe I don't know it's1931.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't know what's going on in the Pacific
Northwest.
There's a squashed stomp on ituntil it looks correct.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, well, that's how we press our coins.
Oh good, anyway, nonetheless.
Yeah, the comments from thelocal officials.
It's just kind of whatever.
These are the older ones, notfrom the 2020.
But just later on they lookback and say it was a desperate
time and the wooden money gavepeople a way to continue their
(06:21):
lives, remarked a historian fromTenino they didn't give his
name, it was in the buzzfeedarticle.
I read one of them, the otherthat I got a lot of my
information from was actually acnn one as well, so those are
okay two of my sources.
yeah, so the wooden currency waskind of a symbol of resilience
as well.
So, like you said, only fortydollars was redeemed during that
(06:43):
time as well.
So, like you said, only $40 wasredeemed during that time.
But you know, over the years,tonight knows wooden money is
just been a historic symbol ofinnovation during tough times.
You know, for those of us whohave heard of it, and now me as
well as hopefully everybody outthere who listens in podcast
landia, thanks to our friendhere on the McMichael and his
friend Tamika All right guys.
So you know, nonetheless, thisis it is it's like I like it
(07:07):
because a community cametogether and figured out a
solution in a tough time.
And it seems to me that ifyou're willing to do this with
this wooden currency, you'reputting a lot of faith in the
people around you.
I would think you know.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, so that's pretty neat.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And they could continue their way of life.
Pretty much.
It sounded like you know,rather than just having
everything taken away from youovernight almost.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, no shit.
Yeah, these Tenino folks.
What would they be?
Teninans, teninites, I don'tknow, but they're smart Teninans
.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know.
I don't know, tenino, butthey're smart I don't know yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh hey, there you go, see, I don't know.
These guys are smart, thoughNonetheless, small town
Resilience, they say Owen, ouchShit, I hit the microphone.
Sorry about that, guys.
That happens from time to timebecause we play it loose fast
and furious over here at ITSheadquarters northwest, you know
, we have our Montana branch aswell, where Mr McMichael is at
(08:12):
this point in time, and Boogie,of course, his co-host of sorts,
or his producer.
What would you call Boogie whenit comes to the show of the dog
, the pit bull, mr Lynch?
Ed Blue Dog in charge, ed BlueDog in charge, just overseer.
He's the ultimate overseer,nonetheless.
Hey, you know, tenino wasactually founded back in the
(08:32):
1800s, late 1800s, and it wasfor, well, 1850s.
They say Tenino's founding1850s to 1870s, so you pick, I
guess.
But it was actually establishedbecause of the Northern Pacific
Railway and then also it becamemore of a town of sorts because
(08:52):
they had a sandstone quarrythere.
So that's what's in, thelogging industry, of course,
being in the PNW with theSquatches and such and aliens
and serial killers of sorts,they had the logging industry
going and that's kind of whatmade this town possible before
the depression.
What happened, uh, after thedepression and in in the 50s, is
the sandstone quarry.
(09:13):
You know they didn't need it nomore.
You know people didn't need tobuild pyramids, apparently or
whatever.
They're using the sandstone forowen and, uh, they so like the
pyramids and yeah, northwestright and so now, but this has
turned into one of their mainattractions, which lots of
pyramids in the PacificNorthwest right and so now but
this has turned into one oftheir main attractions, which
they converted the sandstonequarry in the 1950s to the 9-0
(09:35):
quarry pool and it's actuallytheir public swimming pool and
it's actually really fuckingcool looking actually, actually,
guys whatever so did you get totake a look at the picture I
sent you of it?
I did.
Yeah, that looks great.
Yeah, it's really neat looking.
It's oddly square in a verybeautiful landscape.
It's kind of interesting inthat way.
(09:57):
So tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm hoping there are no plans to replicate it in the
pit in Butte, probably not,because that would go poorly,
because everybody would die.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, they actually paid you.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Sorry, people Montana .
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Right Butte is Was once the richest city In the
country.
Oh and was.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
West of the Mississippi, oh was that it?
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, fact checking.
But then once they, you know,got all the minerals they could
out of the land.
Now the Berkeley pit Is just agiant like poisonous deal.
So sorry if people don't get myMontana humor.
A few listening, I know well.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, there was a major copper mine there, and
copper in those days especiallywhen they were first first
running telephone cable andstuff and like whatever that
transatlantic cable is and stuffof that nature, that's what
made it such a boomtown.
But they used a lot of deadlychemicals to mine this out.
(10:54):
I don't know how they tried tofix it, but they ended up with a
big-ass fucking lake where alot of the shit was dug out and
it's very toxic, poisonous toeverything around it, and they,
they, they will pay people to uhshoot at the birds like the
eagles and stuff that attempt toland on the lake with like
(11:14):
plastic pellets of sorts.
So that way they because, yeah,I didn't see some of that.
Yeah, that's pretty weird.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So sorry for starting this beaut tangent.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Well, beaut is the armpit of America.
I'm pretty sure I don't know.
You know that's.
Anyway, sorry anybody who wasborn there and made it out.
You went through a lot andyou've done enough.
They should give you aretirement plan.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
MC Straight Budge God rest, god rest.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yes indeed, dang, I didn't know Straight Budge was
from Butte.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I think.
Anyway, I think he was born inAtlanta and lived in Annas,
anyway, yeah, Nonetheless,Tenino sounds like a much nicer
place to go swimming than Butte.
We'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, I like this Tenino thing.
It is a good story and, like Isaid, community is a big deal.
Guys out there, you know mostpeople have some sense of
community, but I don't know,depending on where you're at,
maybe you really don't, you know, but I wish I would have grew
up in a place that had more of asense of community.
(12:16):
Personally, sometimes, when Iget in certain situations
Because it is, it's everythingand I love, like they said, the
resilience, and building theirpool out of that sandstone
quarry, I feel, is just anotherexample of it, and that's why I
felt like.
I felt like I'd added in.
So that's it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, I hadn't seen anything about that, so yeah, I
used to go visit, and then whenthere's, like that, bug in, the
swimming hole, Right?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Um, I don't know.
Hey, well, just you know, sincewe, you know, this is the only
time I ever talk to you on thephone, I'm going to waste
everybody's time and look it upfrom see how far it is from me.
So hour and 30 minutes, bro,you come up here.
We're going to Tenino, Tell uhAll right.
Tell Tamika to get a hold of herdad.
(13:06):
If he still lives there, we'llgo have lunch, I don't know.
Nonetheless, hey, I thought youwould think this is fun, since
this is such a great story and Ido love how they brought it
back in 2020 as well, and itseemed that it worked very
similar to how they had it backin during the great depression,
(13:28):
but there's been a lot of otherthings throughout time that have
been used as currency ellen.
Did you know that, besidesmetal, and you know, yeah, okay,
so salts, one like weed, well,weed, yes, anyway, okay, yes, it
has been used.
I've used it like this as wellsalt has salt oh, and salt has
been used.
I've used it like this as wellSalt has Salt.
Oh, and salt has been used ascurrency.
(13:49):
Just get your head right, god.
I miss fucking cannabis always,yeah, but no, salt has been
famously used as a form ofcurrency since ancient times.
So Roman soldiers were paid insalt.
Isn't that kind of crazy?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, well, it was a huge thing with sharing food and
just food in general.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Life Spices were used as currency, I believe, or at
least worse, a lot more.
Oh my God, Saffron still, Ibelieve, was more my weight than
gold.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Wow, that's something I was not aware of.
By the way, no saffron, really.
I don't even know if I've hadsaffron I'm sure I have, but I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Hey, you've had risotto, I don't know, and
you've certainly had saffron.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, well, I don't know if I've had that, I don't
know if I can pronounce iteither.
My friend this one.
I felt like you'd especially.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Rice from Milan in American talk.
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Fair enough, fair enough.
So, hey, you know what?
That's funny because thisalmost connects to the next
currency I was going to read off, which is just like a side
shoot.
Guys, owen didn't know nothingabout this.
So the second one I was goingto read off is squirrel pelts,
and that seems like thatCaramelone.
(15:11):
Oh my gosh, in Finland the wordraha refers to money.
Hundreds of years ago, however,during the medieval era, the
word meant squirrel fur, whichcould be interpreted as other
things as well, I think, I don'tknow, but yeah, so the pelts
were actually the standard formof currency in Finland, and so
(15:32):
when you had to make change ifeverybody's wondering what would
happen you'd lop off a pawStuff like that.
That's pretty morbid.
No, it's a thing.
Well, I mean, they're alreadydead, I guess.
But yeah, squirrel pelts, whichis funny and it was used in
Finland and Russia Both thoseare the ones that was their
major form of currency at onepoint in time was squirrel pelts
(15:54):
.
So now you all know, I hopeeverybody feels a little bit
better.
The other one this is anotherone I want to make, michael,
that you may find interesting.
My friend right here on, I TellStories which you can buy
shirts from us atpitlocksupplycom Just letting
you know, guys.
So anyway, cheese bro yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yes, yeah, in Italy Some like cheese, but I like
cheddar.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, hey, there you go.
Thank you, nicotina, for thatline and Owen for remembering it
.
I love that line myself, myfriend.
In Italy there has been a longtradition of using large wheels
of Parmesan cheese as currency.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Did you know that I love Italy even more now?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I didn't know it was possible, but we might have to
do an episode on that.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
The practice goes.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yes, yes, the practice goes back to the Middle
Ages.
And, yeah, a single wheel ofParmesan requires around 125
gallons of milk to make.
Did you know that, owen?
I didn't, I did not.
Yeah, and the cheese maturesfor at least 12 months, so, and
then I guess some Parmesans areaged different, like up to four
years, and they are incrediblyvaluable.
(17:03):
I kind of figured that.
And after the Second World War,when Italy was experiencing a
recession, because you know,they were on the wrong side of
the tracks there, thank youStalin, they practiced.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Mussolini.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oh Mussolini.
Well, that's stupidini.
Well, either way, thank youMussolini.
No, russell is fighting on theside of the little history
lesson here I love when I getshit wrong and I love when you
fucking remember it to be honest, because it's a very obvious
one.
My head's all like I was kind ofreading my notes here as I went
, and then I'm looking at theSecond World War and just all
(17:40):
this stuff, and just anyway.
Nonetheless, my friend, whenItaly was experiencing a
recession, the practice of usingwheels of cheese eased the
financial situation, especiallyfor cheesemakers.
Yeah, today, credito EmilianoBank owns two warehouses full of
Parmesan cheese wheels.
Almost half a million wheels ofcheese are stored there, with a
(18:02):
total value of almost $200million.
All right, damn Dang.
I don't know how often I wentdang.
I thought you'd like that one,though, and I didn't even look
at some of the other stuff.
Yeah, the other stuff, the oneI'm just going to look and find
the most interesting one that Ican find before we probably call
(18:22):
it a day here, and that wouldactually be dolphin teeth.
So apparently, dolphin teethwere so yeah, oh teeth.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I thought you said dolphin pee at first.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh gross.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I would say not to have that.
And then how would you do that?
I don't know.
I was not willing to ponder onit too much.
I just thought well, that'sfucking terrible Teeth.
All right, that's much better.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, it is, depending on if you're a dolphin
or not and if you're alive, allthese things.
The use of dolphin teeth as aform of currency in the Solomon
Islands is a practice that datesback hundreds of years and is
still in use today, so that'skind of weird and this all has
to do with global recessions.
That's kind of what it toucheson down here at the bottom is
(19:18):
that they replaced theircurrency because the dollar and
the euro went down during arecession and they started using
these dolphin teeth again.
Why?
How weird are we humans?
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
How bizarre.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
How bizarre, god rest .
How bizarre guy yes, fromsomewhere I can.
How bizarre guy Yep, yes, fromuh, somewhere.
I can't remember where they'refrom now.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Fuck, I think it was like New Zealand or something.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yep, that's it.
It's the one I can neverfucking remember man, man, man
man Speaking of man.
Okay, hey, anyway.
So like yeah, this was a funepisode.
I like it Shout out to TeninoGood job guys.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Much love Tenino, yeah, Much love Planetos.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
On that note, yeah, everybody, have a good day.
So that was the much loveeverybody.
What more do you need?
ah boy hola, how's this day going for you, my
friend, on this very I tellstories.
Uh well, would it be afternoonthat we're recording?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I believe it is yeah we're now.
It is 1 22 in the pm mountainstandard time all right.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, now we know for sure.
Now we know you randomly foundthis, like you always do, and
it's about a town called TeninoWashington, I feel is how you
say it Tenino.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Tenino From what my friend Mika, friend of the show
I'm not sure if she's actuallylistened yet, but we'll give her
crap about that, I'll probablysee her today but I mentioned
that we were going to do thisand she said how do you know?
I think I just said, uh, Tinino, and she's like how do you know
?
It's Tinino, that's where mydad's from, I believe.
Oh, and she's like it is,there's nothing there.
(00:54):
There's nothing there.
And um, incidentally, well, alot of us learned at a young age
from Wu-Tang Cash ruleseverything.
Yeah, tenino had its owncurrency and you know we're all
familiar Cheddar, scratch,strilla, bread, paper, loot,
(01:14):
coin, the fabrics, cabbage, deadpresidents Never heard bark
tree pulp or wood chips.
No Well, in 1931 or 2020,tonight in Washington, those
terms would be more appropriate,as they had wooden currency.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Began in the Great Depression,did it not?
1931, like you said, during theGreat Depression tonight, I
know, faced a severe economicdownturn, like most the US,
obviously, at the time.
Thus the Great Depression and alocal bank collapse, leaving
(01:51):
many of his residents withoutaccess to any cash at all.
Basically, even you know, ifthey had it I'm assuming you
know this may be before the dayswhere your money was insured,
right?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's my thought yeah, I think there's something
about there was to be a payout,but who knows how long it would
take, and it was a small enoughcommunity that they could, so
they could still provide oneanother with goods and services.
This would be accepted currencyand then, when the payout did
finally go through, it wouldturn into real money.
From my understanding, yeah,that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It seems like that's the same principle they had here
in 2020, not to deviate toomuch.
But what I read was is theywere, when they reintroduced
this wooden currency during thepandemic same thing, you know,
like people are falling on hardtimes.
And this is a small community.
Uh, I think when I looked atits population, it was like 1970
, as of like 2022 or somethinglike that, so it's a pretty
(02:49):
small town, and they got a grantof sorts, or that's what they
called it, and so the shops thatapproved the currency would
just kind of turn it into thecity hall or whatnot and be
reimbursed.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, so I didn't see anything, though, where I was
interested on.
I wonder how they gave changeor what would go on there,
because I'm assuming maybe it'sone of those deals like for
those of us who are old enoughfor one and for two have ever
been in this situation wherewhen they used to give you paper
booklets for food stamps, youknow they would have different
(03:29):
denominations in there, but ifyou gave them so much they would
give you some change back, youknow, at times, so that's a
thing.
And then on the other end ofthat stick, then it would just
be what it was like.
You know, maybe some placesdidn't and you bought $19 worth
of food.
While you're out your buck theydon't have a dollar food coupon
(03:49):
for you to give back.
You know, so it's.
I don't know.
That's very interesting.
I didn't really think aboutthat.
Yeah, sorry for bringing thatup.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And then it caught on .
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No, the news spread to Seattle and soon collectors
were uh, even, you know,traveling or writing at least to
to 90, asking for pieces of theunique wooden currency.
And it's like by the end of uh19 or in the 1933, by the end of
(04:21):
them printing the word or Idon't know if printing isn't
right, it's like making thewooden money, they'd produced
10,000 worth, which again lotsof money, in fact, still a lot
of money to me, but lots ofmoney back then, especially, oh
yeah, and only $40 was everredeemed.
And so a lot of these notes,wooden notes, are still in
(04:45):
people's collections and worthquite a bit.
I remember when I first sawthis, I was looking on Amazon at
both the 2020 stuff and thenobviously it'd be way cooler to
have the original and I don'tremember exactly, but I didn't
purchase any.
Yeah, it's like market pricewhen you see that on a menu,
like generally, it means yeah,no, yeah, no, thanks, like I
(05:10):
don't know what it is, but Iknow I can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But it would be cool to have some Some currency from
Tanino.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, it makes me feel like we should print our own
Shantyplex currency For oursovereign nation of sorts.
Maybe that's something we coulddo in the future.
The wooden bills were made ofthin sheets of cedar and were
printed using a localnewspaper's printing press.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
To answer some of those questions, I guess you
didn't have to print it.
This is my first go at woodencurrency.
People Forgive me, I'm ignorant.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, you think they'd carve it in.
Is that what you're kind ofthinking?
I mean, maybe I don't know it's1931.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't know what's going on in the Pacific
Northwest.
There's a squashed stomp on ituntil it looks correct.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, well, that's how we press our coins.
Oh good, anyway, nonetheless.
Yeah, the comments from thelocal officials.
It's just kind of whatever.
These are the older ones, notfrom the 2020.
But just later on they lookback and say it was a desperate
time and the wooden money gavepeople a way to continue their
(06:21):
lives, remarked a historian fromTenino they didn't give his
name, it was in the buzzfeedarticle.
I read one of them, the otherthat I got a lot of my
information from was actually acnn one as well, so those are
okay two of my sources.
yeah, so the wooden currency waskind of a symbol of resilience
as well.
So, like you said, only fortydollars was redeemed during that
(06:43):
time as well.
So, like you said, only $40 wasredeemed during that time.
But you know, over the years,tonight knows wooden money is
just been a historic symbol ofinnovation during tough times.
You know, for those of us whohave heard of it, and now me as
well as hopefully everybody outthere who listens in podcast
landia, thanks to our friendhere on the McMichael and his
friend Tamika All right guys.
So you know, nonetheless, thisis it is it's like I like it
(07:07):
because a community cametogether and figured out a
solution in a tough time.
And it seems to me that ifyou're willing to do this with
this wooden currency, you'reputting a lot of faith in the
people around you.
I would think you know.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, so that's pretty neat.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And they could continue their way of life.
Pretty much.
It sounded like you know,rather than just having
everything taken away from youovernight almost.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, no shit.
Yeah, these Tenino folks.
What would they be?
Teninans, teninites, I don'tknow, but they're smart Teninans
.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know.
I don't know, tenino, butthey're smart I don't know yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh hey, there you go, see, I don't know.
These guys are smart, thoughNonetheless, small town
Resilience, they say Owen, ouchShit, I hit the microphone.
Sorry about that, guys.
That happens from time to timebecause we play it loose fast
and furious over here at ITSheadquarters northwest, you know
, we have our Montana branch aswell, where Mr McMichael is at
(08:12):
this point in time, and Boogie,of course, his co-host of sorts,
or his producer.
What would you call Boogie whenit comes to the show of the dog
, the pit bull, mr Lynch?
Ed Blue Dog in charge, ed BlueDog in charge, just overseer.
He's the ultimate overseer,nonetheless.
Hey, you know, tenino wasactually founded back in the
(08:32):
1800s, late 1800s, and it wasfor, well, 1850s.
They say Tenino's founding1850s to 1870s, so you pick, I
guess.
But it was actually establishedbecause of the Northern Pacific
Railway and then also it becamemore of a town of sorts because
(08:52):
they had a sandstone quarrythere.
So that's what's in, thelogging industry, of course,
being in the PNW with theSquatches and such and aliens
and serial killers of sorts,they had the logging industry
going and that's kind of whatmade this town possible before
the depression.
What happened, uh, after thedepression and in in the 50s, is
the sandstone quarry.
(09:13):
You know they didn't need it nomore.
You know people didn't need tobuild pyramids, apparently or
whatever.
They're using the sandstone forowen and, uh, they so like the
pyramids and yeah, northwestright and so now, but this has
turned into one of their mainattractions, which lots of
pyramids in the PacificNorthwest right and so now but
this has turned into one oftheir main attractions, which
they converted the sandstonequarry in the 1950s to the 9-0
(09:35):
quarry pool and it's actuallytheir public swimming pool and
it's actually really fuckingcool looking actually, actually,
guys whatever so did you get totake a look at the picture I
sent you of it?
I did.
Yeah, that looks great.
Yeah, it's really neat looking.
It's oddly square in a verybeautiful landscape.
It's kind of interesting inthat way.
(09:57):
So tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'm hoping there are no plans to replicate it in the
pit in Butte, probably not,because that would go poorly,
because everybody would die.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, they actually paid you.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Sorry, people Montana .
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Right Butte is Was once the richest city In the
country.
Oh and was.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
West of the Mississippi, oh was that it?
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, fact checking.
But then once they, you know,got all the minerals they could
out of the land.
Now the Berkeley pit Is just agiant like poisonous deal.
So sorry if people don't get myMontana humor.
A few listening, I know well.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, there was a major copper mine there, and
copper in those days especiallywhen they were first first
running telephone cable andstuff and like whatever that
transatlantic cable is and stuffof that nature, that's what
made it such a boomtown.
But they used a lot of deadlychemicals to mine this out.
(10:54):
I don't know how they tried tofix it, but they ended up with a
big-ass fucking lake where alot of the shit was dug out and
it's very toxic, poisonous toeverything around it, and they,
they, they will pay people to uhshoot at the birds like the
eagles and stuff that attempt toland on the lake with like
(11:14):
plastic pellets of sorts.
So that way they because, yeah,I didn't see some of that.
Yeah, that's pretty weird.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So sorry for starting this beaut tangent.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Well, beaut is the armpit of America.
I'm pretty sure I don't know.
You know that's.
Anyway, sorry anybody who wasborn there and made it out.
You went through a lot andyou've done enough.
They should give you aretirement plan.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
MC Straight Budge God rest, god rest.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yes indeed, dang, I didn't know Straight Budge was
from Butte.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I think.
Anyway, I think he was born inAtlanta and lived in Annas,
anyway, yeah, Nonetheless,Tenino sounds like a much nicer
place to go swimming than Butte.
We'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, I like this Tenino thing.
It is a good story and, like Isaid, community is a big deal.
Guys out there, you know mostpeople have some sense of
community, but I don't know,depending on where you're at,
maybe you really don't, you know, but I wish I would have grew
up in a place that had more of asense of community.
(12:16):
Personally, sometimes, when Iget in certain situations
Because it is, it's everythingand I love, like they said, the
resilience, and building theirpool out of that sandstone
quarry, I feel, is just anotherexample of it, and that's why I
felt like.
I felt like I'd added in.
So that's it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, I hadn't seen anything about that, so yeah, I
used to go visit, and then whenthere's, like that, bug in, the
swimming hole, Right?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Um, I don't know.
Hey, well, just you know, sincewe, you know, this is the only
time I ever talk to you on thephone, I'm going to waste
everybody's time and look it upfrom see how far it is from me.
So hour and 30 minutes, bro,you come up here.
We're going to Tenino, Tell uhAll right.
Tell Tamika to get a hold of herdad.
(13:06):
If he still lives there, we'llgo have lunch, I don't know.
Nonetheless, hey, I thought youwould think this is fun, since
this is such a great story and Ido love how they brought it
back in 2020 as well, and itseemed that it worked very
similar to how they had it backin during the great depression,
(13:28):
but there's been a lot of otherthings throughout time that have
been used as currency ellen.
Did you know that, besidesmetal, and you know, yeah, okay,
so salts, one like weed, well,weed, yes, anyway, okay, yes, it
has been used.
I've used it like this as wellsalt has salt oh, and salt has
been used.
I've used it like this as wellSalt has Salt.
Oh, and salt has been used ascurrency.
(13:49):
Just get your head right, god.
I miss fucking cannabis always,yeah, but no, salt has been
famously used as a form ofcurrency since ancient times.
So Roman soldiers were paid insalt.
Isn't that kind of crazy?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, well, it was a huge thing with sharing food and
just food in general.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Life Spices were used as currency, I believe, or at
least worse, a lot more.
Oh my God, Saffron still, Ibelieve, was more my weight than
gold.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Wow, that's something I was not aware of.
By the way, no saffron, really.
I don't even know if I've hadsaffron I'm sure I have, but I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Hey, you've had risotto, I don't know, and
you've certainly had saffron.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, well, I don't know if I've had that, I don't
know if I can pronounce iteither.
My friend this one.
I felt like you'd especially.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Rice from Milan in American talk.
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Fair enough, fair enough.
So, hey, you know what?
That's funny because thisalmost connects to the next
currency I was going to read off, which is just like a side
shoot.
Guys, owen didn't know nothingabout this.
So the second one I was goingto read off is squirrel pelts,
and that seems like thatCaramelone.
(15:11):
Oh my gosh, in Finland the wordraha refers to money.
Hundreds of years ago, however,during the medieval era, the
word meant squirrel fur, whichcould be interpreted as other
things as well, I think, I don'tknow, but yeah, so the pelts
were actually the standard formof currency in Finland, and so
(15:32):
when you had to make change ifeverybody's wondering what would
happen you'd lop off a pawStuff like that.
That's pretty morbid.
No, it's a thing.
Well, I mean, they're alreadydead, I guess.
But yeah, squirrel pelts, whichis funny and it was used in
Finland and Russia Both thoseare the ones that was their
major form of currency at onepoint in time was squirrel pelts
(15:54):
.
So now you all know, I hopeeverybody feels a little bit
better.
The other one this is anotherone I want to make, michael,
that you may find interesting.
My friend right here on, I TellStories which you can buy
shirts from us atpitlocksupplycom Just letting
you know, guys.
So anyway, cheese bro yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yes, yeah, in Italy Some like cheese, but I like
cheddar.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, hey, there you go.
Thank you, nicotina, for thatline and Owen for remembering it
.
I love that line myself, myfriend.
In Italy there has been a longtradition of using large wheels
of Parmesan cheese as currency.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Did you know that I love Italy even more now?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I didn't know it was possible, but we might have to
do an episode on that.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
The practice goes.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yes, yes, the practice goes back to the Middle
Ages.
And, yeah, a single wheel ofParmesan requires around 125
gallons of milk to make.
Did you know that, owen?
I didn't, I did not.
Yeah, and the cheese maturesfor at least 12 months, so, and
then I guess some Parmesans areaged different, like up to four
years, and they are incrediblyvaluable.
(17:03):
I kind of figured that.
And after the Second World War,when Italy was experiencing a
recession, because you know,they were on the wrong side of
the tracks there, thank youStalin, they practiced.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Mussolini.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oh Mussolini.
Well, that's stupidini.
Well, either way, thank youMussolini.
No, russell is fighting on theside of the little history
lesson here I love when I getshit wrong and I love when you
fucking remember it to be honest, because it's a very obvious
one.
My head's all like I was kind ofreading my notes here as I went
, and then I'm looking at theSecond World War and just all
(17:40):
this stuff, and just anyway.
Nonetheless, my friend, whenItaly was experiencing a
recession, the practice of usingwheels of cheese eased the
financial situation, especiallyfor cheesemakers.
Yeah, today, credito EmilianoBank owns two warehouses full of
Parmesan cheese wheels.
Almost half a million wheels ofcheese are stored there, with a
(18:02):
total value of almost $200million.
All right, damn Dang.
I don't know how often I wentdang.
I thought you'd like that one,though, and I didn't even look
at some of the other stuff.
Yeah, the other stuff, the oneI'm just going to look and find
the most interesting one that Ican find before we probably call
(18:22):
it a day here, and that wouldactually be dolphin teeth.
So apparently, dolphin teethwere so yeah, oh teeth.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I thought you said dolphin pee at first.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh gross.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I would say not to have that.
And then how would you do that?
I don't know.
I was not willing to ponder onit too much.
I just thought well, that'sfucking terrible Teeth.
All right, that's much better.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, it is, depending on if you're a dolphin
or not and if you're alive, allthese things.
The use of dolphin teeth as aform of currency in the Solomon
Islands is a practice that datesback hundreds of years and is
still in use today, so that'skind of weird and this all has
to do with global recessions.
That's kind of what it toucheson down here at the bottom is
(19:18):
that they replaced theircurrency because the dollar and
the euro went down during arecession and they started using
these dolphin teeth again.
Why?
How weird are we humans?
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
How bizarre.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
How bizarre, god rest .
How bizarre guy yes, fromsomewhere I can.
How bizarre guy Yep, yes, fromuh, somewhere.
I can't remember where they'refrom now.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Fuck, I think it was like New Zealand or something.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yep, that's it.
It's the one I can neverfucking remember man, man, man
man Speaking of man.
Okay, hey, anyway.
So like yeah, this was a funepisode.
I like it Shout out to TeninoGood job guys.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Much love Tenino, yeah, Much love Planetos.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
On that note, yeah, everybody, have a good day.
So that was the much loveeverybody.
What more do you need?
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