October 31, 2024 • 14 mins
Ever wondered what happens when the past refuses to stay buried? Join us for a spine-tingling journey as we unravel the mystery of Zosia, a 350-year-old alleged vampire found in Poland. With a sickle around her neck and a padlock on her toe, her burial details read like the script of a horror movie—but was it more than just superstition? We explore the cultural fears that might have sparked such a dramatic entombment, delve into her possible Scandinavian roots, and ponder if her dental quirks or mental state played a role in her chilling fate. Plus, thanks to modern technology, you’ll get to "meet" Zosia face-to-face as we reveal her reconstructed appearance in a way that blends the eerie with the educational.
But that's not all the spooky surprises we have in store! Shift into a lighter gear with us as we explore the world of vampire bats, those winged creatures from the Americas that can surprisingly sprint across land. A fun fact for your Halloween trivia arsenal, these bats add an extra layer of mystique to the season. Don't forget to catch videos of these little runners, guaranteed to leave you both entertained and a bit unsettled. As we wrap up, we send our best wishes for a Halloween filled with love, laughter, and just the right amount of fright.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Uh, hoi, hoi, hey bro , happy Halloween.
I hope that wasn't the wrongkind of creepy voice.
Uh, man, uh, we're here at ITS.
Uh, we're just letting podcastsland.
You know, real fast, sometimeswe do shit on the fly, guys, and
it doesn't mean we're prettyfly for white guys, like we
(00:20):
talked about in another episodeabout the 90s, but uh,
nonetheless it is the spookyseason.
My friend and I want to startthis episode out with saying
happy birthday to my kids.
Nevaeh, her birthday isHalloween.
So, happy birthday, nevaeh,we're recording on Halloween.
(00:42):
Happy birthday Nevaeh, yeah,and're recording on Halloween.
Happy birthday Nevaeh, yeah.
And happy birthday Adam, thespooky man himself.
We have to say that everyHalloween man we're saying so.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Happy birthday, adam.
All right, I wonder what Adamthinks of.
You know, the Dodgers just wonthe World Series, and so there's
the obligatory lighting thingson fire and looting in Los
Angeles to celebrate a sportingevent going a city's way.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh my God, yeah, yeah , let's destroy the city In the
city.
I wonder what Randy Newmanwould think about that.
We love LA, sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Anyway, yeah, there's , like nary, a mention of
looting and touching ballad byMr Newman who hates short people
.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I know Nicole does not agree.
Slytherin, I know, I knowSlytherin, slytherin, anyhow,
anyhow.
So here we are, found thispretty cool story, guys.
Well, I don't know, take it asyou wish, but it's spooky, I
feel nonetheless.
And it's about an apparentvampire named Zosia, and there
(01:49):
was a couple differentpronunciations of this.
The closest I got that I feelwould have been right was the
Polish-style one, I guess.
So it's Zosia or something likethat.
So just bear with us guys.
Anyway.
So apparently this woman orwell, barely woman, she was only
about 18, lived about 350 yearsago.
(02:10):
They discovered her corpse inPoland and she was buried with a
sickle around her head it'slike over her neck, like into
the earth, right, owen?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, and a padlock on her toe, yeah, pretty
distinct.
It was presumed she was avampire and found in a field of
vampires with around 100skeletons, I think, but
apparently she must have beenthe most feared, correct, there
are others that have restraintsand stuff like that, but it was
that if she were to try and riseafter death she'd be
(02:45):
decapitated, right?
They thought she was probablyrather well-to-do.
She was found with a silk capand there was speculation that
she might have been Scandinavianand at the time apparently the
Swedes and the Poles were notseeing eye to eye.
I don't know what the beef was,but there's a lot of wars going
(03:09):
on.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Polish beef.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, that's pretty ill Poland.
Yeah, the thing about the toepadlock thing I tried to look
more into it a bit and basicallywhat it comes down to is it
represents more like that she'snot going to be able to return.
So it must have had some magicto it.
(03:31):
I'm assuming, like if she wasto get up and survive being
beheaded by this sickle over herneck, then the padlock on her
toe must have had some magic.
That just represented hey,you're not coming back, right.
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Other skeletons were found weighed down with stones,
and a lot of them had coins intheir mouths.
Hmm, so I didn't get to lookinto, since we're doing this
kind of quickly.
I didn't get to look into thesignificance of that, but again,
probably some type of magic orsome symbolism.
For sure they weren't just likestuffing coins in vampiric
(04:14):
alleged vampiric corpses' mouths.
Bad economics.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It was a different time, okay, different time,
nonetheless, pretty scary shit.
Hey, you know, the thing aboutthe coins that I just thought is
is maybe it's very similar toputting them on your eyes,
because when I read this, too,and most of my information came
from the new york post and uhthe sun, okay, just to give them
some reference of where we'regetting all this from.
(04:41):
But when people would put thecoins on eyes, you know, to get
the other side of the bridge.
But it could have been asimilar thing, right, just a
different culture.
And also, when I read this too,she was by far the most feared
and it was very clear that thatwas the case.
I don't know how they determinedthis, but I did watch a video
real quick on like how theyremade her 3D model.
(05:03):
So if watch a video real quickon like how they remade her 3d
model, so if you do look up thisand within this, this is why
the story popped up is is thatthey actually recreated her face
and it's amazing, like they dida sculpture and everything.
So if you just look up zosiathe vampire, hopefully it comes
up and you're able to see theimages for the story.
Um, the the other thing is thatshe was by far the most feared.
(05:27):
So, although these other peoplemay have had like tendencies of
vampirism or whatever, theywere fearing their family
members probably still had hopethat they were going to get to
the other side, you know.
So to me it feels like nobodywanted this woman to return, and
I don't know how.
But they also said that theybelieve she may have had severe
(05:48):
mental illness.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And they said that she had a deformity like a
protruding tooth.
That also probably led to thespeculation that she was a
vampire.
And also people with silk capsare often very frightening, so
that's a phobia.
It's quite common.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I think, yeah, silk cap phobias are real.
I don't know what that's called, but it's a thing, guys.
Hey, you know, I listened tosome stuff on vampires recently
and you were saying that toothand it's kind of up in the air
on whether vampires and this islike people who teach college
courses on this there is such athing, no-transcript, where the
(06:30):
vampire punctures the neck andthen sucks the blood out in
those ways.
Or are these teeth used topuncture the neck and then they
kind of just suck on the neck,like you know, weird kids trying
to give each other hickeys.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's unclear.
So those are the things I tookfrom it, beyond the fact that
you know what a scary time tolive in, you know what a scary
(06:53):
time to live in throughout thelast, like you know, 1700.
So the last like 7, 8 thousandyears of Europe has been nothing
but like war, war, and we'retalking like people on
battlefield, don't forgetdisease.
That was fun too sorry yeah, no,for real, bro, I'm just yeah,
(07:13):
disease.
Like there's just so manythings that are going on.
Happy Halloween, this is thebest episode ever, so yeah, but
there's so much trauma that hasbeen passed down over time and
these people are just scaredright Like they don't know
what's going on, Like this isback in the day where, even in
this period of time, there'svery obviously a lot of magical
(07:36):
thinking going on.
You know, the church andwhoever they could see an
eclipse and determine that itmeant whatever was going on.
For this reason and maybe theythought this woman was causing
it, I don't know I'm alsowondering if they killed her.
It doesn't state that.
I don't feel.
Did you see anything on?
If, like, she had any injuriesfor her death?
(07:56):
It didn't really give me acause, I suppose, and I was kind
of interested in if it was aFrankenstein situation.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So but I didn't see.
Yeah, exactly, but I was.
Yeah, I was hoping for her sakethat she was didn't just like
lay there starving to death orsomething.
I don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Right, and you think, man, mental health though?
Yeah, we, we've made some leapsand bounds, people, you know,
we don't kill mentally illpeople and call them vampires
anymore, so that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, I think there are many children too, too, and
some like decapitated.
I mean, you have to be prettyscared of something to think
like a child's a vampire and cuttheir head off.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, that's a real thing.
Yeah, among the other remainsfound at the burial site like
you were kind of touching onthere, bro, were a pregnant
woman and a woman who had longsuffered from syphilis so these
are facts and a man with a childburied at his feet.
So a lot of different, likevariations of things, and it's
(09:04):
just amazing, like how differentwe are.
This really meant something tothese people and it's easy to
make fun of.
But I just keep back, I'llbackpedal on it sort of, but not
, and then just say, like thesepeople had to be terrified.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, that's the truth ofit.
And I don't know, man, I doenjoy talking about vampires on
(09:28):
halloween and talking aboutthings of that nature.
So it's not out of ourwheelhouse.
The burial is just probably themost fascinating thing about it
.
And then you know, pien I don'tknow how to say this, but it's
in Poland, pien, pien, I think Ifeel is where they found it,
and such discoveries led to thearea being called the Field of
(09:49):
Vampires.
So you're spot on there, myfriend.
This is a very massive vampireburial site that I did not know
existed until I looked at mynews feed, you know on my phone.
And here we are today at I TellStories, talking about vampires
.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I did just watch the remake of Stephen King's Salem's
Lot Ooh, which I will say waslike the.
I mean, I can't stand whenstuff relies on CGI Right, but
it was really cool how they didthe vampire scenes and, like
many Stephen King adaptationsthat had very little to do with
(10:29):
the Right, that actual book.
I mean, you can't reallycapture the soul of a of a book.
Uh, it's like, if you do so,it's a, it's a masterpiece, but
I still found it enjoyable.
I saw the critics just trashedit, of course.
Um, it was entertaining and Ido.
Yeah, that's probably one ofthe more interesting, other than
(10:52):
just the, like Michael Myers,psychopath vampires are more
interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, halloween yeah, it's kind of right.
It's kind of weird how theywent from like terrifying to
sexy, because that's what theypush him as right.
Totally understandable.
But that's another point thatwas made in this thing.
I was listening to trying togear up for some knowledge on
(11:19):
stuff for the show and it wasbasically he was talking about
how you know, at first it wasjust like they were just these
undead, you know, and undeadpeople aren't very appealing.
So over time is the yeah correct?
So they started, like you know,making these people wealthy and
(11:40):
whatever things, and a lot ofit they believe came from when
they would write these stories.
It was kind of like turning thenobility like into evils, like
they were.
People hated the nobility.
Okay, they wanted to talk shiton rich people, that's all there
is.
But then over time, you know,it became more of a social thing
(12:01):
where you know people thoughtthey were vampires.
That's a real deal.
They still people, still Idon't know what the fuck.
Why would you drink blood, man?
That's like it makes you sick.
Like there's got to be someside effect to these people who
feel like they're vampires thesedays, drinking blood, I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, somebody probably should have had a pet
as a child.
If they're drinking blood, yeah, or maybe they shouldn't.
What am I saying?
Yeah, something to make themtake a different path in life.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah A hobby A hobby, a couple hugs.
Hey um A puzzle.
Yeah, from Cold Smoke TobaccoBoogie's Bodega, located on
First Avenue.
North of Duke.
Yeah for sure.
Shameless plug, of course.
That's what we're all about.
Nonetheless, guys, this isgoing to be kind of a quick
(12:53):
episode.
Last fun fact that wanted toenter, just toss out there.
I found out too that vampirebats are, uh, they can run on
land really fast, which has tobe terrifying, can you imagine.
All right.
So, guys, I haven't done it yet, but look up a video of a
vampire bat running on land.
Apparently that's a thing and,uh, they are native to south
(13:15):
america, they're in the Americaspeople, for our American folks.
So be careful out there on thisHalloween night.
Was that good enough to end iton?
I don't know what do you got tosay, owen?
I don't think that should bethe end.
Should we catch them?
With much love everybody andhope they stay safe out there.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Much love everybody.
Happy Halloween.
Uh, hoi, hoi, hey bro , happy Halloween.
I hope that wasn't the wrongkind of creepy voice.
Uh, man, uh, we're here at ITS.
Uh, we're just letting podcastsland.
You know, real fast, sometimeswe do shit on the fly, guys, and
it doesn't mean we're prettyfly for white guys, like we
(00:20):
talked about in another episodeabout the 90s, but uh,
nonetheless it is the spookyseason.
My friend and I want to startthis episode out with saying
happy birthday to my kids.
Nevaeh, her birthday isHalloween.
So, happy birthday, nevaeh,we're recording on Halloween.
(00:42):
Happy birthday Nevaeh, yeah,and're recording on Halloween.
Happy birthday Nevaeh, yeah.
And happy birthday Adam, thespooky man himself.
We have to say that everyHalloween man we're saying so.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Happy birthday, adam.
All right, I wonder what Adamthinks of.
You know, the Dodgers just wonthe World Series, and so there's
the obligatory lighting thingson fire and looting in Los
Angeles to celebrate a sportingevent going a city's way.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh my God, yeah, yeah , let's destroy the city In the
city.
I wonder what Randy Newmanwould think about that.
We love LA, sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Anyway, yeah, there's , like nary, a mention of
looting and touching ballad byMr Newman who hates short people
.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I know Nicole does not agree.
Slytherin, I know, I knowSlytherin, slytherin, anyhow,
anyhow.
So here we are, found thispretty cool story, guys.
Well, I don't know, take it asyou wish, but it's spooky, I
feel nonetheless.
And it's about an apparentvampire named Zosia, and there
(01:49):
was a couple differentpronunciations of this.
The closest I got that I feelwould have been right was the
Polish-style one, I guess.
So it's Zosia or something likethat.
So just bear with us guys.
Anyway.
So apparently this woman orwell, barely woman, she was only
about 18, lived about 350 yearsago.
(02:10):
They discovered her corpse inPoland and she was buried with a
sickle around her head it'slike over her neck, like into
the earth, right, owen?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, and a padlock on her toe, yeah, pretty
distinct.
It was presumed she was avampire and found in a field of
vampires with around 100skeletons, I think, but
apparently she must have beenthe most feared, correct, there
are others that have restraintsand stuff like that, but it was
that if she were to try and riseafter death she'd be
(02:45):
decapitated, right?
They thought she was probablyrather well-to-do.
She was found with a silk capand there was speculation that
she might have been Scandinavianand at the time apparently the
Swedes and the Poles were notseeing eye to eye.
I don't know what the beef was,but there's a lot of wars going
(03:09):
on.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Polish beef.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, that's pretty ill Poland.
Yeah, the thing about the toepadlock thing I tried to look
more into it a bit and basicallywhat it comes down to is it
represents more like that she'snot going to be able to return.
So it must have had some magicto it.
(03:31):
I'm assuming, like if she wasto get up and survive being
beheaded by this sickle over herneck, then the padlock on her
toe must have had some magic.
That just represented hey,you're not coming back, right.
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Other skeletons were found weighed down with stones,
and a lot of them had coins intheir mouths.
Hmm, so I didn't get to lookinto, since we're doing this
kind of quickly.
I didn't get to look into thesignificance of that, but again,
probably some type of magic orsome symbolism.
For sure they weren't just likestuffing coins in vampiric
(04:14):
alleged vampiric corpses' mouths.
Bad economics.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It was a different time, okay, different time,
nonetheless, pretty scary shit.
Hey, you know, the thing aboutthe coins that I just thought is
is maybe it's very similar toputting them on your eyes,
because when I read this, too,and most of my information came
from the new york post and uhthe sun, okay, just to give them
some reference of where we'regetting all this from.
(04:41):
But when people would put thecoins on eyes, you know, to get
the other side of the bridge.
But it could have been asimilar thing, right, just a
different culture.
And also, when I read this too,she was by far the most feared
and it was very clear that thatwas the case.
I don't know how they determinedthis, but I did watch a video
real quick on like how theyremade her 3D model.
(05:03):
So if watch a video real quickon like how they remade her 3d
model, so if you do look up thisand within this, this is why
the story popped up is is thatthey actually recreated her face
and it's amazing, like they dida sculpture and everything.
So if you just look up zosiathe vampire, hopefully it comes
up and you're able to see theimages for the story.
Um, the the other thing is thatshe was by far the most feared.
(05:27):
So, although these other peoplemay have had like tendencies of
vampirism or whatever, theywere fearing their family
members probably still had hopethat they were going to get to
the other side, you know.
So to me it feels like nobodywanted this woman to return, and
I don't know how.
But they also said that theybelieve she may have had severe
(05:48):
mental illness.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And they said that she had a deformity like a
protruding tooth.
That also probably led to thespeculation that she was a
vampire.
And also people with silk capsare often very frightening, so
that's a phobia.
It's quite common.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I think, yeah, silk cap phobias are real.
I don't know what that's called, but it's a thing, guys.
Hey, you know, I listened tosome stuff on vampires recently
and you were saying that toothand it's kind of up in the air
on whether vampires and this islike people who teach college
courses on this there is such athing, no-transcript, where the
(06:30):
vampire punctures the neck andthen sucks the blood out in
those ways.
Or are these teeth used topuncture the neck and then they
kind of just suck on the neck,like you know, weird kids trying
to give each other hickeys.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's unclear.
So those are the things I tookfrom it, beyond the fact that
you know what a scary time tolive in, you know what a scary
(06:53):
time to live in throughout thelast, like you know, 1700.
So the last like 7, 8 thousandyears of Europe has been nothing
but like war, war, and we'retalking like people on
battlefield, don't forgetdisease.
That was fun too sorry yeah, no,for real, bro, I'm just yeah,
(07:13):
disease.
Like there's just so manythings that are going on.
Happy Halloween, this is thebest episode ever, so yeah, but
there's so much trauma that hasbeen passed down over time and
these people are just scaredright Like they don't know
what's going on, Like this isback in the day where, even in
this period of time, there'svery obviously a lot of magical
(07:36):
thinking going on.
You know, the church andwhoever they could see an
eclipse and determine that itmeant whatever was going on.
For this reason and maybe theythought this woman was causing
it, I don't know I'm alsowondering if they killed her.
It doesn't state that.
I don't feel.
Did you see anything on?
If, like, she had any injuriesfor her death?
(07:56):
It didn't really give me acause, I suppose, and I was kind
of interested in if it was aFrankenstein situation.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So but I didn't see.
Yeah, exactly, but I was.
Yeah, I was hoping for her sakethat she was didn't just like
lay there starving to death orsomething.
I don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Right, and you think, man, mental health though?
Yeah, we, we've made some leapsand bounds, people, you know,
we don't kill mentally illpeople and call them vampires
anymore, so that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, I think there are many children too, too, and
some like decapitated.
I mean, you have to be prettyscared of something to think
like a child's a vampire and cuttheir head off.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, that's a real thing.
Yeah, among the other remainsfound at the burial site like
you were kind of touching onthere, bro, were a pregnant
woman and a woman who had longsuffered from syphilis so these
are facts and a man with a childburied at his feet.
So a lot of different, likevariations of things, and it's
(09:04):
just amazing, like how differentwe are.
This really meant something tothese people and it's easy to
make fun of.
But I just keep back, I'llbackpedal on it sort of, but not
, and then just say, like thesepeople had to be terrified.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, that's the truth ofit.
And I don't know, man, I doenjoy talking about vampires on
(09:28):
halloween and talking aboutthings of that nature.
So it's not out of ourwheelhouse.
The burial is just probably themost fascinating thing about it
.
And then you know, pien I don'tknow how to say this, but it's
in Poland, pien, pien, I think Ifeel is where they found it,
and such discoveries led to thearea being called the Field of
(09:49):
Vampires.
So you're spot on there, myfriend.
This is a very massive vampireburial site that I did not know
existed until I looked at mynews feed, you know on my phone.
And here we are today at I TellStories, talking about vampires
.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I did just watch the remake of Stephen King's Salem's
Lot Ooh, which I will say waslike the.
I mean, I can't stand whenstuff relies on CGI Right, but
it was really cool how they didthe vampire scenes and, like
many Stephen King adaptationsthat had very little to do with
(10:29):
the Right, that actual book.
I mean, you can't reallycapture the soul of a of a book.
Uh, it's like, if you do so,it's a, it's a masterpiece, but
I still found it enjoyable.
I saw the critics just trashedit, of course.
Um, it was entertaining and Ido.
Yeah, that's probably one ofthe more interesting, other than
(10:52):
just the, like Michael Myers,psychopath vampires are more
interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, halloween yeah, it's kind of right.
It's kind of weird how theywent from like terrifying to
sexy, because that's what theypush him as right.
Totally understandable.
But that's another point thatwas made in this thing.
I was listening to trying togear up for some knowledge on
(11:19):
stuff for the show and it wasbasically he was talking about
how you know, at first it wasjust like they were just these
undead, you know, and undeadpeople aren't very appealing.
So over time is the yeah correct?
So they started, like you know,making these people wealthy and
(11:40):
whatever things, and a lot ofit they believe came from when
they would write these stories.
It was kind of like turning thenobility like into evils, like
they were.
People hated the nobility.
Okay, they wanted to talk shiton rich people, that's all there
is.
But then over time, you know,it became more of a social thing
(12:01):
where you know people thoughtthey were vampires.
That's a real deal.
They still people, still Idon't know what the fuck.
Why would you drink blood, man?
That's like it makes you sick.
Like there's got to be someside effect to these people who
feel like they're vampires thesedays, drinking blood, I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, somebody probably should have had a pet
as a child.
If they're drinking blood, yeah, or maybe they shouldn't.
What am I saying?
Yeah, something to make themtake a different path in life.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah A hobby A hobby, a couple hugs.
Hey um A puzzle.
Yeah, from Cold Smoke TobaccoBoogie's Bodega, located on
First Avenue.
North of Duke.
Yeah for sure.
Shameless plug, of course.
That's what we're all about.
Nonetheless, guys, this isgoing to be kind of a quick
(12:53):
episode.
Last fun fact that wanted toenter, just toss out there.
I found out too that vampirebats are, uh, they can run on
land really fast, which has tobe terrifying, can you imagine.
All right.
So, guys, I haven't done it yet, but look up a video of a
vampire bat running on land.
Apparently that's a thing and,uh, they are native to south
(13:15):
america, they're in the Americaspeople, for our American folks.
So be careful out there on thisHalloween night.
Was that good enough to end iton?
I don't know what do you got tosay, owen?
I don't think that should bethe end.
Should we catch them?
With much love everybody andhope they stay safe out there.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Much love everybody.
Happy Halloween.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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