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November 17, 2025 33 mins

“Born” in the Oval Office? Yes—NADSP’s origin story is wilder than you think.
In this episode, Joe Macbeth and Dan Hermrick from the National Alliance for Direct Support Professionals join Nate to unpack the surprising beginnings of NADSP, the national movement they’ve sparked, and why DSP credentialing is becoming one of the most effective tools for solving turnover and elevating the profession.

We talk about the Pope, policy, real outcomes, and what provider leaders need to know right now to build a more stable, high-quality workforce.

SHOW NOTES
00:00 - Intro
02:43 - The Pope story — and what it reveals about DSP competence
08:27 - Introductions: Joe & Dan and NADSP’s mission
10:32 - “Born in the Oval Office”: The surprising founding story
17:16 - What the e-Badge Academy actually is and how it works
27:41 - What changes when DSPs become credentialed

🔗 Helpful Links

Learn more about the NADSP E-Badge Academy:
https://nadsp.org/services/the-nadsp-e-badge-academy/

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