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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to the
IdeaGen Global Leadership Summit
.
I'm here today with Dr NicoleHare for a special presentation
interview.
I'm excited to be here with DrHare, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thank you for having
me.
I'm excited to be here with DrAaron, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Of course, our
pleasure.
I want to briefly just startthis interview by letting you
kind of explain what you'redoing right now with Qtosyn,
with the Cosmetic DermatologyCenter.
You know I'm well aware, butfor our audience I think it'd be
great to let us know what's new, what's new with you.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sure, a little bit of
the background.
I'm a board-certifieddermatologist.
I went to MIT, so I have astrong research background.
I worked at one point at MerckPharmaceuticals.
I've worked in the Human GenomeProject, so I love research,
and during my time running mycenter, I noticed a change in my
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patient's skin which correlatedbelieve it or not to their love
life, and so that prompted me,being the researcher that I am,
to look into oxytocin, andthat's how I developed Qtosyn,
my skincare line.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Awesome, thank you,
and I kind of want to dive into
that human genome project youdiscussed.
How did those kind ofexperiences that you had
influence?
You know your approach toskincare research and the
trajectory you've taken foundingyour own brand.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, I've always
been very proud of my work that
I've done in research and I lookback on those times fondly, my
work over at MerckPharmaceuticals.
The lead on the projectactually won the Nobel Prize and
there is a commercial that runsa lot that you'll see for Super
Beats.
I mapped the gene that they'realways talking about.
(02:06):
So my husband's always jokingthat I should be on the
commercial and the Human GenomeProject.
I mean it was an honor.
I worked under Francis Collinsand it just, you know, it's
always inspired me to keepstriving forward with my
research, no matter where thattakes me.
Yeah, we've had a couple ofpeople in here, you know it.
It's always inspired me to keepstriving forward with my
research, no matter where thattakes me yeah, we've had a
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couple people in here, you know,for advertising.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We got to make that
happen, get you there, you go
right yeah um and so talk about.
Could you talk about your pilotstudy that you that you did,
that you know, uncover thedirect link between between
oxytocin levels and the impacton your skin?
You know, I know you woulddiscuss kind of a connection
with your patients, but but howdid that kind of come to
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fruition?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
sure so it's.
It's a very interesting storybecause I've been in practice
for over 20 years 21 years nowand some of my patients have
been coming to me the entiretime, and from time to time
someone will come in and Ihaven't seen them in a little
while, and I could see somethingdifferent in their skin, and it
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wasn't that I could see thatthey were happy or sad.
I saw a difference in qualityof their skin, and then we would
get to chit-chatting and Iwould realize that it correlated
with their love life, and soyou know that typical love glow
that especially women like totalk about was true.
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I was observing that in myoffice, and vice versa, though.
I've had times when a patientcame in and I could tell
something bad had happened andthe husband had died or had left
her, and you could see it inthe skin.
The skin quality had changed,and so I said to myself well,
I'm observing these changes.
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It's not just in my head, Iknow I am.
How could this be happening?
And so I started to dig in to mytheory of oxytocin.
So oxytocin is the love hormone,and in the past we've always
kind of put it into this littlebox of you know it's involved in
sex, birthing and nursing andthat's it, and we never really
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looked at oxytocin.
But when I dug around in themedical research literature, I
found that there's bench workshowing that oxytocin is
actually produced in the skinand it binds in the skin and it
turns off an inflammatorypathway in the skin.
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So inflammation obviously isbad.
We don't like that, and so themore that the inflammation is
shut off, the more it's going toprotect your skin, and so I
decided to try to show this inmy pilot study, and I was
successful in showing that, andthat was the first time that
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anybody had published clinicalproof that oxytocin is
protecting the skin in the humanskin in real time.
So so it was actually a hugething.
I heard from people I hadn'theard from in a long time.
It was named one of the mostimportant stories in dermatology
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at the time.
You know this is revolutionaryand we don't get that many new
things in dermatology all thetime.
So I was super excited.
But it goes beyond that.
You know, this isn't just tomake you attractive, it also
makes you healthier.
Because, you know, when I waswriting up my paper I thought
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well, why would the body do this?
The body's not going to wasteenergy just to make you more
attractive, for reproduction,right?
Someone might argue that, forevolutionary purposes.
But let's face it, when we'reyounger we don't need as much of
the oxytocin protection for ourskin as when we're older.
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So I just had a hunch that thiswent deeper, and when I looked
into the medical database, I wasable to find preliminary
research showing a positiveeffect in every system in the
body.
So your neurologic, endocrine,gi, pulmonary, every system.
And that's when I had theepiphany that this is a system.
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So this is what I call theoxytocin social exchange system.
The more social you are, themore interaction you have at a
real human level right, sittingface to face, smiling at one
another, laughing, talking thehigher your oxytocin is and the
healthier you are and the moreattractive you are.
And so it's a positive feedbackloop.
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And you know people who havemore oxytocin, they tend to be
more vibrant and attract moreattention, and it feeds on
itself, and if you want to lookback again at evolution, you
could argue.
Well, you know, this is to helpyou survive, right?
Because who's going to survive?
It's the people who are socialpeople, who are working together
and communicating and stickingtogether, and the loners, who
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probably didn't have as muchoxytocin.
Well, they probably didn't doas well.
So you could see how this hasbeen with us all along.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's fascinating.
That's fascinating.
Have you thought about maybeexpanding the research that
you've done in your pilot studywith additional studies, larger
sample sizes?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, I would love to
.
It's been a little rough to tryto find carve out the time to
do an expansive study, but I doknow that people have looked at
my paper and working on top ofthat.
So because obviously it'spublished medical literature and
then other people use that as areference, so I'm just happy
that at least I got it goingsomehow.
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I do believe that this is astory that we are all going to
look back at and say, boy, howdid we miss this one for so many
years?
It is just so critical to ourhealth and well-being.
We have a lot of problems inthis society right now that are
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really because of the lack ofoxytocin.
You look at the youth of today.
They are on their devices fartoo much.
They get their little dopaminespikes from hitting buttons on
that little glowing screen, butthey're not spending time with
one another, they are notinteracting with one another in
real time, and that makes a hugedifference.
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And so when that is lacking,then they don't have oxytocin
for their neurologic development, for the rest of their
development, and they have acrazy amount of anxiety and
depression.
And so really we do need to putthe darn phones down and pay
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attention to each other.
There's even a study showingthat if a mother calls a
daughter you know old fashionedphone call, right Her oxytocin
goes up and her cortisol level,which is her stress level, goes
down.
If the mother texts thedaughter, her cortisol goes up
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and her oxytocin stays the same.
So you know, it's not justcommunication, it's how you're
communicating, it's the methodof communication.
It has to be real time.
We're actually hearing theperson's voice and interacting
and not this broken up, you know, messages on a device that
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actually increases your stressincreases your stress.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's interesting.
I know it is frustratingsometimes.
You know you just want to getsomeone on the phone.
I know the person that theyonly text, you know we all have
that one person that only texts.
They never answer the phone butit's interesting to hear you
know.
Apologies if you kind ofanswered this in a previous
question, but how does Qtosinmaybe differentiate from other
anti-aging or products of youknow maybe similar other
anti-aging?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
or products of you
know, maybe similar Sure.
So you know, when I made thesediscoveries and put this kind of
all together, you know, being adermatologist of course, I was
like oh gosh, I want to bottlethis right.
This is amazing.
You know, again, in dermatologywe haven't had much new in so
many years.
But for skincare, you know,we've been working off of
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antioxidants and retinol andpeptides and that kind of thing
hyaluronic acid and you knoweverybody's got that in their
lines and all of that.
But this works differently.
You know, if we can work off ofthe oxytocin system and help to
shut down that inflammation,wouldn't that be great?
So what I did was I found abotanical that's been used for
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centuries in midwifery and so ithas been used for its oxytocin
effects, and I was able to usethat in formulation in my line,
ketosin, and it's actuallypatented.
So it took almost three and ahalf years to get the patent,
thank you, but it is a uniqueskincare line that is patented.
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There's nothing else out therelike it and I have to say people
, they react so well to it.
Their skin looks amazing.
They get very invested if youyou will into the brand.
They love the brand and peoplejust get hooked on it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Honestly, that's
fantastic.
I mean, it sounds great, so Iunderstand why.
So your research has beenrecognized at the UN.
You've been published inleading dermatology publications
.
Could you talk about thatexperience and what those
experiences have been like andhow you see that affecting the
future of skincare science?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I again.
I'm just so proud to bring thistopic to the forefront of not
just dermatology but to society.
I really think that this issomething that we need to pay
attention to.
I am a huge proponent forpeople like spending time
together and putting the darnphones down and looking at each
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other across the table.
You know, when I see groups ofpeople together, even in a
restaurant, and they each havetheir phone in their hand and
thinking you guys are missingthe point.
That doesn't work right.
That's not how this works, andI think we need to get back to
that kind of message.
And that was like the primarymessage when I spoke at the
United Nations, which was suchan honor, and you know just
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getting that message out thereand that I'm hoping that I get
in some people's heads thatthey're like you know what.
It's time for us to just putthe phone down and pay attention
to one another and have a chat,or just spend a little extra
time with your loved one, or getan extra long hug from your
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loved one, or you know, dosomething like that because it's
good for you and it's good forthem and it boosts your oxytocin
level.
It makes you not just happierbut healthier, and I think that
our society has really been inthis kind of honestly like
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oxytocin deficit at this point,and I love getting the word out
about it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, I mean
definitely in the shift.
You know, post COVID remotejust became such a standard, you
know in all facets of life, soI can see what you mean by that.
You're a scientist, researcher,entrepreneur.
Could you maybe describe kindof where you see the future of
dermatology heading,particularly in merging like
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neuroscience and skin care,overall well-being Kind of?
Where do you see that track?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think it's a great
question.
I think that we're starting tounderstand the mind-body
connection a lot more, not justin dermatology, but in all of
medicine a lot more, not just indermatology, but in all of
medicine, even just looking atthings like probiotics.
And the gut-mind connection isso important, and that's
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something that's also related todermatology, because the more
inflammation you have in yourbody in general, the worse it is
for your skin, hair, everything, and when the gut is healthy,
you have less inflammation inyour body overall.
So I think that dermatologyfinally has some new and
exciting things kind of going on.
I think for a little while itwas, you know, a lot of same old
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, same old, but um, you knowit's, it's exciting and I I
can't wait to see what happensin the future.
Again, just total wellness andmind-body connection and even
gut health, who knows?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Who knows what
someone will come up with next.
Yeah, well, it seems to be allconnected and I share in your
excitement about what the futureholds.
Share in your excitement aboutwhat the future holds.
I think you've described a few.
You know ways that we canimprove.
You know our skincare throughyour research so far, but do you
maybe have three takeaways thatour audience could have?
Things they could start doingtoday, they could do right now
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to improve their overall youknow skin, or their you, or
their health in general?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, I would say
that you need to make an effort
every day to talk with a friendor a loved one.
If you don't have a loved oneat home, just make sure that
you're actually speaking withthem in real time, though not
texting.
Actually, it makes a bigdifference, as I was telling you
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before.
So I want people to make aneffort on a daily basis to
connect with someone who theylove, right, and then also they
can do things that makes themhappy and that will boost your
oxytocin too.
So exercise and singing canincrease your oxytocin.
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If you like to sing, orsnuggling with a pat will
increase your oxytocin, so youneed to do something like that
too.
And then I'd say, lastly, thebest thing of obviously is to
use ketocin, because it'sincredible.
So I was going to recommendthat, just for everybody you
know, you heard it here dr hairthank you very much.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
We appreciate you
stopping by and uh you know,
ketocin.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Thank you, Hayer
thank you very much.
We appreciate you stopping byand you know tosing.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Thank you Always a
pleasure.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.