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(00:00):
Welcome to our very firstepisode of, if You Want Me, do
you want me to be honest?
Where the filter is off?
The honesty is high, and theregrets?
Well, they come later.
I'm April, and this is cindy.

Cindy (00:14):
This is our very first episode of Who gave us the mic?
What idiot gave us the mic.
How did this start is thequestion, and I'll tell you that
this began.
Um, because it wasn't my idea.
Well, it's actually because youused to ask me my opinion of

(00:37):
things going on.
Mm-hmm.
And whether you should be honestor truthful with how you feel
about situations.
Mm-hmm.
And so I always said, well, ifyou want me to be honest, and
then she would.
Give you my honest truth.
Well that's just'cause it wasthe opposite of what you wanted.
Yeah.
Rude to hear.

(00:57):
Um, yeah.
It was rude a little bit.
It was, but we also think we arefunny as shit.
Okay.
Let's be honest.
We are funny.
We are, to us, we think we'refunny.
Well, what did your husbandthink of it?
Of what making this podcast.
He, he never said a word.
Right.
My kids begged me not to.

(01:18):
Mm.
My kids, in the beginning, theywere a little off actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They weren't too sure about usdoing this, but then they were
like, eh, you two are funny.
I think you could do it.
I think we're funny.
And that's all that matters.
I think we're hilarious.
Scott thinks we're funny.
Mark, not so much.
Yeah.
Uh, I think we're funny.
I don't know.

(01:39):
Um, it's just for fun.
We don't care.
We're having fun.
You like it, you like it, youlove it.
You love it.
You don't bye.
That's her honest opinion, sadlyis Well, I mean, you ain't gotta
be rude.
Just laugh or don't laugh.
I.
Yeah, that's what I do like, ordon't like.
Share or don't share.

(02:01):
Follow or don't follow, butfollow.
We prefer you to followactually, we're hoping that it
takes off.
Yeah.
Um, so what else?
Um, what happened today in ouroffice?
Trying to figure out how we'regonna set this up.
Yeah.
We're still trying to figure outthat and where we're gonna do it
and how we're gonna do it.
Um, we've been friends a long,long time.

(02:23):
It's been 33
years.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
That's why I got most of mygreys So let's talk about that.
I did want to talk, okay.
This is one thing I think peopleshould know about you and me.
Okay?
Okay, buddy.
Um, do you remember when we metthe very first time?
Oh, God.
You still harpen on that?
I do.
I do.
I remember before I met you.

(02:45):
When they, you s spillt shit allover my, like, that was not
before, that's the day I metyour ass.
Well, I, I thought they told meand I was like, who is this
bitch?
They came out and said, somebodyspilled, I bought a tablecloth
for one of our friends.
Right.
A nice white one.
Whatever trailer park.
It looks so pretty.

(03:06):
And it looked so pretty.
And then somebody spilled sodaall over.
I did.
I did.
I felt so bad.
But what was your honest opinionof me at that time?
Well, at first I was like, who'sthis bitch?
Right?
Spilling shit all over theplace.
And then you and Scott had aparty and I didn't know you, but
I knew Scott, but this was, Ilived in Daytona at the time.

(03:28):
Yeah.
And, um, people were at theparty and I was at the person's
house.
Yous spilled the tablecloth onmm-hmm.
Waiting for him to hang out withme and our friends, and they
were all at your party.
So I sat there.
You don't, you might not haveknown that you, I sat there,
which you didn't know me at thetime, so that's why I wasn't

(03:50):
invited.
But it's not a big deal.
It was like, y'all party.
I thought that I, well, you werethere when I spilled the drink.
No, I wasn't.
They told me who spilt it, and Iwas like, who is this bitch?
Oh, so when I actually saw youis when you confronted me and
said, so you're the bitch thatspilled the soda.
Oh, I said that.
Yeah.
And I thought, thank you.

(04:10):
The first thought of me was,she's a bitch.
Wow, dude.
So I said, so you're the onethat's spill the soda?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I said, well, I cleaned itup.
I felt so bad too.
It was stained.
Okay, well who buys fuckingwhite?
Okay.
I was trying to be cute forsomeone that has parties.

(04:30):
We know about it.
Yeah.
So that's how we met.
But I don't, I don't remembernot liking you.
I just remember like this bitch,so I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
I, I, no, I didn't not like you.
I did think my first, I wouldtell you this.
This is what I like The firsttime I met you, that situation,
you confronted me there at thathouse, right?

(04:50):
Yeah.
The funniest part is before.
Scott said to me, alright, soyou're gonna meet this person,
this person, this person, thisperson.
Oh, Scott ran his mouth aboutme.
He did.
He said, now Cindy on the otherhand, she has a big mouth.
Wow.
So you might get along with her.
Wow.
'cause you got a big mouth too.
Right.
Right.

(05:11):
You remember them calling us?
Big mouth bass.
Yes.
Motherfucker.
Mark used to say that so much tome.
Big mouth bass.
Big mouth bass.
He's a, I wasn't a fan of Mark'swhen I first met him.
I ain't a fan of him now, I'm behonest with you.
That's because of things.
Well, well he was a player.
Dirty bird.
Yep.
You know, I don't like dirtybirds.
Don't, it's a worm, but rememberwhen was it Mark that said to

(05:35):
Scott, your wi your girlfriend?
Yeah.
Has the biggest mouth ever girlthat I've ever met.
Yeah.
He said I would never, yes,that's what he said.
Ever date.
A girl with as big of a mouth ashe, well, guess what?
God punished him.
I forewarned him.
I remember, you know what I saidto him?
Oh, if you want me to be honest,I said to him that night that he

(06:01):
said it to me.
I can remember we were sittingin Scott's apartment at the, um,
Beachside, the beach side, atthat apartment at the table, and
I said.
You got the biggest mouth onethere is buddy.
And he said, no.
No, that ain't, I tricked himthen.
That's why I thought I trickedeverybody too.
Yeah, no, I trick.

(06:21):
I tricked him.
I even cooked him lunches andstuff.
Yeah, that was a big trick.
Ask me for a lunch today, bitch.
I'll go through by through thedrive through and get you some
lunch.
Yeah.
I ain't making that trip nomore.
So that's when we first met andthen.
Uh, you, you knew Mark andScott.

(06:42):
I knew Scott since he, I was inmiddle school.
Yeah.
Scott was in high school.
I know.
And when I first saw him, ohGod, you want me to be honest.
You gonna get stuck on this oneagain?
Well, ain't no prize now, so goahead and speak it.
Speak the truth.
Well, I was on my school bus.
Mm.
With some friends.
I'm gonna go ahead and take asip.

(07:03):
Is that alcohol?
Mm.
So we pulled up at the highschool to pick up the high
school kids and here comes acouple of my friends walking out
of the school with Scott.
And I was like, who's he?
Cute.
Um, and it was back in the daywhen all the guys that had long

(07:23):
hair, you know, guns and roses,Metallica thing, and I was like.
Who's that?
I think I asked his sister.
Oh, okay.
And she's like, that's mybrother.
I'm like, oh, sh.
And then a couple days later, Iseen him with some hoe Wasn't
me.
I was a hoe.
But it wasn't me.

(07:44):
Yeah.
I wasn't that hoe.
So that was end of that story.
Yeah.
And then, anyway, so that's whenI first saw Scott and then,
yeah.
But then you ended up hangingout with him and partying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then we all hung out and partiedand.
Yeah, did what We did beachfleas pretty much hung out at
Beachside.
Mm-hmm.
Drinking, drinking, partying,partying, having fun.

(08:04):
Not me.
I was sweet and innocent.
Maryland, are you being honestright now?
Not really.
I mean, and then you moved here.
Ruined everything.
No, you didn't ruin nothing.
I know.
'cause you found your soulmatebitch.
You're right.
You're right.
And so did Mark and Scott.

(08:25):
Yeah.
They're lucky.
I mean, thank you's.
That's how I see it.
I don't know how they ever livedwithout us.
Exactly.
Exactly.
If you want me to be honest.
Mm-hmm.
That's the truth.
So they were pretty wild, Scottand Mark.
Um, so that went on.
Anyway, so then we get married.
She got married the day after Igot married.

(08:46):
Mm-hmm.
Scott was in my wedding.
He walked.
He was he, yes.
He walked my mom down the aislewith.
A different what?
Some things called buns.
Yeah, yeah.
Cumberland Buns or somethinglike that.
Was'em called?
Say it again?
Buns.
Cumberland Buns.
Buns.
Them bun things that gounderneath the jacket.
The colored ones.
The, the, the cu Cumberland bun.

(09:07):
No, it's the vest part.
Right?
The vest.
Okay.
A different color vest.
He wore the vest, the match, mywedding.
Right.
And then for his wedding, heused the same and he just
changed the, that would be mywedding.
Yeah.
Your wedding.
He just changed the vest.
Correct.
And the reason why we weren't ineach other's weddings.
That's right.
That's right.
Is because we were planning itwas just too much for us to do
that.
Of course.
Yeah.

(09:27):
Yeah.
So then we difference, so wegot, and now it's almost 31
years later, we have someregrets.
That's for another episode.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's fine.
That'll probably be titled, oh,it's coming.
Oh, the regrets we have now,we're happily married.
She's got 55 kids.

(09:48):
I have two.
And a grandbaby.
And I do have a grandbaby.
So, alright, so we're talkingabout when we first met, right?
Yes.
Okay.
So when we first started hangingout.
Okay.
You were, we moved to HollyHill.
I was living in Holly Hill atthat time, right?
Yep.
And then you and Mark werewhere?

(10:09):
In Daytona?
Yeah.
Apartments.
Okay.
And, um, off of Ridgewood.
Yeah.
Okay.
So behind Dunking Donuts.
Yes.
Remember when we watched Scottwas into NASCAR back then?
Oh, here we go.
I know what you're gonna say.
Okay.
How do you remember this stuff?
Okay.
Because this is the kind ofstuff that like.

(10:32):
If you want me to be honest,makes me giggle so hard that I
need people to understand.
Really?
Like that I'm an idiot.
Yeah.
No, no.
You're not an idiot, but you'refunny as shit.
Okay.
When it comes to certain things.
Okay, so Scott decided to tellyou and trick you.

(10:54):
He did trick me on a 24 hourrace, dude, I think it was the
Rolex 24.
It was something.
It was a long time.
Well, I mean, you should haveknown something was up when we
were spending the night at thehad I thought y'all were staying
the night.
'cause we were friends.
We weren't friends.
No, no.
It wasn't about friendship andScott was trying to figure out
mm-hmm.
What?

(11:14):
Why didn't you watch it on yourown damn TVs?
Because Mark wouldn't shut upabout us coming over to play
cards that night.
Oh remember that's when we usedto play cards all the time.
Okay.
So anyway.
Scott got said, let's, you said,all right, buddy, let's watch
the race together.
Who am I root for and root?
That was just a joke.
I know.
I didn't really wanna watch it.
Well, but it got, it made himfeel good.

(11:35):
Okay.
Okay.
And so you, he said, all right,who's your driver and what did
you say?
You were rooting for.
You don't want to tell.
All of a sudden, Tom Petty.
That's who I knew.
I thought I knew it.
Oh, you knew his ass.

(11:56):
He just wasn't driving.
Scott said, who Richard Petty iswho you met?
Same thing.
Okay, so that was, those weregood times.
That times the first.
Trick of the day, and then Yeah.
He said It's almost over.
It's almost over.
Yeah.
Every hour.
I'm like, when is this raceover?
I know it's almost over.

(12:17):
It was a lie.
It was 24 hours.
Yeah, it was, it was the Rolex24.
Yeah.
That never happened again.
Remember?
Remember when I had to tell youthat he's lying to you?
Yes.
Finally, someone tells me.
Yeah.
Those were good times.
Yeah.
I went to bed.
Yeah.
I, I don't remember what I did.
I think I got forced to.

(12:37):
Stay up and watch that stupidshit with him.
Sorry.
It's your man, not mine.
God, I wasn't staying up.
It was around and around TomPetty.
Just going and going.
Tom Petty.
I don't even think Richard Pettywas racing back then.
He was.
I think he was retired.
Dude.
No, no, no.

(12:57):
I'm gonna check it.
I don't know.
No, Rachel.
Okay.
How long ago was that?
30.
I mean, Nathan had to have beenHow long?
How old?
Four.
Three.
Right.
Yeah.
Three or four in that area.
Okay.
So it had to have been 95, 1995, 96.
I hadn't had Brandon yet orpregnant with him.
No, you, you didn't have thatwas nine seven.

(13:18):
Nope.
No.
So Wow.
It was early.
God damn.
We're old.
The fuck.
We are old.
Damn.
Wow, dude.
Yeah.
Anyway, forget about that.
We're not that hard.
Let's talk about that, um, whereyou were working back then now,
uh, cleaning hotel rooms.
Yes, yes, yes.
I did that.
I did that as a summer job sinceI was 13 though.

(13:40):
Yeah.
That was my real life job foryears.
Okay.
Well I did it as a summer job.
Yeah.
Oh, bougie.
Yeah.
No, I worked hotels.
Hotels until we become friends.
And then you got me every job tonow.
Oh, there pretty much Yes.
Office.
Yeah.

(14:00):
The first doctor's office wasthe funniest.
Yes, it was.
That was probably the best.
It was fun.
That was the best.
One of the best.
It was a good one for me tolearn.
Yeah.
From hotels to a doctor's officethat I, that was a hard learning
lesson, and I'm sure, rememberwhen I took that text to go
card?
Can you, the patient said, doyou take Texaco cards?
And I'm like, yeah, I never knewa gas card about, but remember

(14:24):
people, this was when creditcards were first coming out, so
don't act like I'm that crazy.
You know?
They probably have, but he stillbrings that up.
That doctor still brings thatup.
Mm-hmm.
To me a lot, all the time.
So then we worked there for afew years and then.
I went to a billing company.
Billing company.
Yeah.
I loved that job.
Medical billing, company job.
It was my favorite job.

(14:45):
I know.
Ever.
So went there and then you leftme there and then Well, I had 15
kids.
Yes.
She had 15 kids, so she left methere, which is fine.
Remember when you.
Go ahead.
Say it.
What Now?

(15:05):
Why is it always so fuckingfunny to you?
Because I think it's funny.
This better be good.
Remember?
No.
Remember when you had to help meat the job?
Oh, because you in the bathroomclothed the toilet.
Yeah, it was clawed.
Oh.
And I come.
Got you.
I was like, I need help.
I remember.
I remember.

(15:26):
That's how you know you got goodfriend because I left.
You now did well.
They smell your ass.
They'll plunge your shit.
Yeah.
And not tell nobody.
It looked like I was the onewho, shit.
Yeah.
I left you doing it, bro.
By the way, everybody that usedto work there, it wasn't me.

(15:48):
Wow.
It could have been.
And then that's when you were onthat sub diet.
Sub diet.
Yeah.
Remember we just went to publicso much every day.
Babe and Chick-fil-A too though.
Chick-fil-A not No.
You did that after I was there.
Chick-fil-A.
Yeah.
After I left Oh.
Was because me used split a subevery day.
Every day, dude.

(16:08):
Every day.
You're welcome.
I know I need to do that now andlose more weight.
Yep.
Yep.
That's, that's the job I foundout I had endometriosis.
Mm-hmm.
That was.
Well, they told me that Iwouldn't be able to have a kid.
Right.
That was devastating.
Even though I didn't want morekids.
I didn't think I wanted, andthen you got the angel sent from
heaven.

(16:29):
I didn't think I wanted morekids, but So it was, it was Well
'cause you're being told thatyou, once you told that you
can't.
Yeah.
'cause we whole time beenmarried like two years by then
and we didn't want kids.
Yeah.
Or any more kids.
We had my son.
It's a whole different ball gamewhen somebody tells you you
can't have it.
Yes.
What do you mean you're notgonna tell me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was devastating.
Yeah.
But that was at that job.
So then you got me another job.

(16:53):
Um, was that this?
No, we went back.
We went back.
We went back to the same Ohyeah, doctor.
The first doctor.
Yes.
We went back to that doctor.
I was pregnant.
Dude, I was, I got pregnantwith, I think I went off and on,
worked for that doctor probablyfour times total.

(17:14):
You never learned your lesson.
It was like, you know how whenyou, like you're married, couple
young.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, when you're young, you'redating.
No, no, but you're dating theguy.
And he cheats on you and breaksyour heart.
Mm-hmm.
And you're like, but no, itreally was a good time.
And then you went back.
And then you go back.
Yeah.
And he cheats on you again.
And you're like, no, but reallyI'm that good girl, please.

(17:37):
I love you.
Yeah.
I was always like that withloser boyfriends too in the
past.
Again, they know who they are.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So I, I went back there when Iwas pregnant because, but you
went, it wasn't gonna work.
But I hadn't come back yet.
No, IL yeah, it brought me backfor that.
Yeah.
That was when, um, the twodoctors were working together

(17:58):
there.
Remember I drove with you toJacksonville to help do job
there for that one doctor.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Only once or twice I went upthere.
That was, yeah.
That was a collection account.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you got me anotherdoctor job, and then the,
another job, doctor job.
I did, I did because that doctorclosed down and moved to.

(18:20):
Somewhere because the angel wassent from Yeah.
Seems to be a theme in this,this little party.
Yes.
Sorry.
Yeah.
That's not good.
If you want me to be honest, andnow I work with your billing
company.
Mm, mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's, that's fun.

(18:42):
And then, but you also work inthe doctor's office?
Yes.
Right.
Part-time and part-time.
Part-time and part-time.
And here we are.
'cause it makes you happy.
Yes.
The people there.
Yeah.
Happy.
Of course, of course, of course,of course.
So happy.
Yes.
That's why you stay.
You're right.

(19:02):
It is.
It's partly, I think a lot of, alot of the jobs that I think
we've taken on a lot of thetimes it comes down to the
relationships you have with eachindividual and stuff like that.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's a lot harder to,um.
You know, deal with people thatslack or have issues, um, but

(19:26):
you still have some kind ofbond.
You know?
I think that's the No, for sure.
Main thing for sure is thatyou're bonded to them for Yeah.
Especially how long you workwith them.
Yeah, that's true.
And if you want me to be honest,there's a lot of people there
that got some work ethic issues.
That's for another.
That's another, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's for another, another day.
Yeah, that's for another day.
But yeah, so she's got me everyjob since I was an adult.

(19:48):
Yeah.
She talked me into doing this.
You're welcome.
They're like, damn, it's onlygonna get better.
It'll only get, it can only getbetter.
Right.
That's right.
Like this has gotta be the likethe lowest that we're gonna be.
The lowest.
Well, I mean, you know, it'snerve wracking starting up.

(20:10):
Oh, oh.
You know?
Oh yeah.
And all the new stuff.
A lot of new ghe fucking set upall our fancy stuff.
Just for fun, though.
I mean, if we get worse at corethan this, we're going downhill,
girl.
I mean, yeah.
The budget isn't that friendly.
Well, and not only that, it'sjust for fun.
I mean for you.
I'm trying to retire on thisshit for one day.

(20:31):
Oh boy.
One day, Hey, by the way, Ibought a, a scratch off.
Certainly you can't have asinging career.
I'm like, I can.
Oh, do it.
Go ahead.
Bust it out.
Let's hear it.
I went to the store the otherday.
Mm-hmm.
And you know how I never buyscratch offs or something?
Yeah.
So I bought a scratch off a$4one at a grocery store, and it's

(20:53):
still sitting on my counter.
I haven't scratched it off.
Because I'm trying to like,please Lord.
Oh, you're trying to pray on it.
I need about 500,000.
So I'm gonna give you a littleBible lesson real quick.
There was one time Jesus wentinto the church.
Mm-hmm.
I know.
So he don't like gambling.
Don't pray for it.
It, I know.
It's just a scratch off though.
If it's meant to be it's, it'smeant to be.

(21:16):
You're right.
It's not gonna change it.
I'm just, well, I'm just gonnabe pissed.
I lost my poor dollars.
That's why I'm buying Scratchoff.
Wait, hold on.
We're doing all this.
Praying over a$4.
Scratch off.
Yeah, it could be a milliondollars in that thing.
Not on the$4.
Why?
It's a lie.
No, it's a lie.
No, my son, show me the winner.

(21:38):
My son got a$50 one off a four.
I ain't spending$50.
Dude, I lose the difference.
50.
I'll be pissed.
Difference.
Could you imagine?
I can't.
$4.
There was a$4 one and a$10 one.
I didn't spend the$10 you shouldhave.
That's the no, dude, I can'twaste my money like that.
Uhuh shit.
I can go to lunch for that.

(22:00):
Know food's important.
Okay.
Oh, that's another discussiontoo.
I mean.
Mm.
Obviously food's important to metoo.
Yes.
And here we are.
So then we decided to do this,to have fun with it.
'cause we work together and welaugh all day long.

(22:21):
So we're like, this has gotta beout there.
This shit's funny.
So that's it.
And here we are, I guess.
I guess we're gonna try this anddo this.
Um.
Yeah, we're gonna talk abouteveryday things, just funny
stuff.
People that get on us, ournerves, our jobs, family at the

(22:43):
friends.
We're gonna lose a lot offriends, a lot of family.
They're gonna know who they're,we might, you all don't, our
jobs, we won't name names exceptour specific family.
But you, you, I think I gotthreatened already about that.
So from family or friends, my.
Yesh.

(23:06):
So, but this is gonna be fun.
Fun for me anyway.
Fun for me too.
Yeah, that's it.
I think that's gonna be, um, sowelcome to if you want me to,
you want me to be honest?
All right.
Well stay tuned for our nextepisode and we're gonna record
shortly, probably in the sameclothing you see us in now.

(23:27):
Um, it's gonna be called, did Isay that out loud?
It's about all the times that wesay stupid shit.
Mm mm We shouldn't say stupidshit or that's, but yeah.
But that's a everyday all daything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's become, yeah.
It's a problem.
So that's what our next episodeis, and, uh, hope y'all stay,
stick around and listen and, um,hit follow, follow, like,

(23:51):
subscribe.
Mm-hmm.
Whatever you gotta do.
Um, and, uh, yeah, check us out.
Thanks.
Bye bye.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

Ridiculous History

Ridiculous History

History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.

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