November 25, 2025 • 38 mins
Dream pop isn’t about turning everything down — it’s about tuning everything in. That’s the pulse of our talk with Mirrorball, the Los Angeles duo behind those lush, cinematic songs that somehow still feel like they’re whispering right to you. From the first late-night demo to a surprise label release, their story drifts through noisy beginnings, an obsession with sound, and the quiet confidence that comes with learning when not to play.
We get into how they write: Scott starts with grooves, guitars, and synths in Logic. Alex listens, and melodies spill out — sometimes all at once, sometimes over time. Some songs bloom in a day; others sit for months, waiting for the right mood to arrive. Recording, for them, is a kind of home — layering overdubs until the room disappears and only the song remains. Playing live, though, demands something different: less control, more trust. The goal isn’t to be louder, it’s to make people feel. Small choices, big emotion.
There’s honesty, too, about what it means to be an indie band now. Without a label, they’ve handled everything themselves — the videos, the press, the endless scroll — keeping things moving with a steady run of singles. Now they’re building toward a full LP, something that captures the whole arc of who they’ve become. With producer Chris Coady’s touch — tiny shifts in timing, arrangements that breathe — the songs pulse and shimmer instead of shout. At home, Alex tracks vocals dry, chasing raw takes; Scott trims the noise, staying closer to what feels real.
If you’re drawn to guitars that glow, vocals that drift just out of reach, and rhythms that dance a little behind the beat, this one’s for you. Press play, sink into Red Hot Dust, and stay awhile. If it hits, tell a friend — the dream gets brighter when more people are in it.
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colleyc (00:38):
So welcome back, everyone, to another episode of
fitbeyourwill Podcast.
Searching the world for amazingindie artists, and I'm reaching
across the continent.
I'm in Montreal and I'mreaching over to LA to pull in
Mirrorball.
I have Alex and I have Scottfrom the band, and we've kind of
had some tricky schedulingproblems.
(01:01):
I got a cold.
Anyway, we finally figured itout, and here we are, and I am
so excited to talk to you guys.
Now, Mirrorball out of LA,they're dream poppy, but they
have this, I don't know, I'dalmost say a 70s aesthetic a
little bit.
Like it's just very spaciousand warm and airy, just really,
(01:23):
really good.
They've got tremendous amountof singles out.
They just had a single todropped last week.
And we're gonna talk about allof their music and kind of how
they got to the state in theirlives.
So, Alex and Scott, thank youso much for joining me.
I hope you guys are doing welltoday.
(01:43):
And uh I before we hopped on,you were alluding that you had
had a show yesterday.
So those vibes are probablykind of uh probably feeling a
little drained today.
It's I'm sure it's a lot ofenergy to pour out when you're
up on stage.
Alex (02:00):
Yes, for sure.
Thanks for having us.
Yeah, we might be a little bitlike post right now, but I'm on
the same boat.
colleyc (02:09):
I have been recovering from this cold, so my head is
still a little foggy as well,but it's nice because it fits
with this music you guys make,kind of dreamy, petty.
So before we start, guys, oflike getting into the mirror
ball music, I'd really like toknow each of you kind of like I
(02:33):
know that you guys have bothbeen in music for like two
decades, right?
Like, this is not your firstatom here.
You guys have been in this anddoing music for a long time.
Scott, maybe I'll start withyou.
Like, what how where did it allstart to make sense to you that
music was something that youwere gonna have to do?
Oh well, huh?
Scott (02:54):
I guess I started a my first band with my brother and
we ended up getting another banddrum and bass drums and bass
who were brothers, and I was wejust had a lot of fun.
You know, we didn't really knowhow to play our instruments
(03:16):
that well.
We had a lot of her I I guesswe we were had a lot of passion
and we were obsessed with thepixies and we just like went for
it.
colleyc (03:33):
Was this a a band that you guys started in like high
school or was it after highschool had kind of passed?
Scott (03:42):
After high school, probably I was probably like 21,
20.
I remember because I could Iwas worried about it must have
been like what I was 20 becauseI was worried about playing in
certain clubs.
colleyc (03:53):
Right.
Right, right, right.
Like what is it about musicthat had that that poll?
I mean listening toawe-inspiring musicians
definitely uh helps open thosedoors.
But what was it about wantingto actually do that process of
songwriting and and you knowbeing and and in front of
(04:18):
people?
There's a lot of stuff thatcomes with that with that
vocation of choice.
How how did you how did youcome to kind of like figuring
that that was something that waswas gonna be important?
What were some of those salientmoments that you had?
Scott (04:37):
I guess I would say it was less about um I don't know
performing, yes, but recording,making a song, being in the
studio, recording a song, doingall the overdubs, and then at
(04:57):
the end of the night, like sortof being in the studio,
listening back to what you crwhat you recorded, what you
made, and it sounding reallygood in the studio.
Like that was that's probablylike the most uh like that's the
most fun for me.
That's the most fulfillingmoment for me is like hearing
(05:21):
something you created comingthrough the monitors and it
sounds if it isn't it's soundinggood, like that's I love that.
Yeah, totally.
colleyc (05:32):
And and what what was the style that you started kind
of playing?
Like was it similar to whatyou're doing with Mirror Ball,
or was it completely like adifferent uh stratosphere that
you were in?
Scott (05:45):
I would say it was more uh it was different.
It was more you know, Pixiesinfluenced 90s, not grunge, but
more 90s.
We were we were uh I would saylike uh Velvet Underground and
Pixies were two bands that mademe want to start playing music.
(06:07):
Right.
That's so cool.
colleyc (06:10):
Very interesting.
Now we'll come back to Scott'sum beginnings, but Alex, please,
I'd love to.
I mean, a similar kind of likewhen did music become apparent
that it had to be something thatyou did?
Alex (06:23):
Yeah, gosh, I'd have to go kind of far back, but I I
remember being in high schooland I heard I heard Leonard
Cohen, and that was when uhbecause I had kind of like
always wanted to be a writer,and I was like, well, if I just
write poems, like nobody's gonnaread them.
I was like, I'll just startsinging the like Leonard Cohen.
(06:46):
That's really what for me.
I just was like so inspired byhim.
And then the first song Ilearned was So Long Marion, like
on the guitar and the Smiths.
The Smiths were like the nextthing where I just was like,
this is the greatest thing ever.
Like, and I I kind of stoppedbeing like a good high like high
(07:06):
school student because Istarted to just care about
music, and like I cut all myhair off, and like I don't know,
I was getting into trouble alot, but yeah, that's where it
kind of changed for me at likethe Smiths.
I was just like, This is thisis it, you know.
colleyc (07:22):
Right.
And like, was it therealization too that you wanted
to be a performer?
Because I mean, I mean, you canwrite, you can record, but you
never have to perform.
You know, I spoke to a amusician last week and he's
like, I write a million songs aday, but I will never perform
them live.
Like he just it wasn't a partof something he wanted to do.
(07:45):
Was the performing alwayssomething that you were
interested in doing when youwere first kind of like coming
into it?
Alex (07:53):
Yes, I think like I I do have like a little bit of a
love-hate relationship withperforming live because I'm I
mean, just this morning I waslike, I have to lay off myself a
little bit because I'm verycritical of my live performances
and and I do feel likerecording is like where I'm more
(08:14):
natively like home.
It feels good to me.
And playing live, it's likeliterally, you never know what
you're gonna get.
It's a can of worms.
Like the sound can be great,the sound can be like bad, but
you're having a good night, orthe sound can be terrible, but
you're having a good night.
It's it's so many things.
And then there's the are yougonna be nervous?
Are you not?
(08:34):
And but I I kind of like loveit.
Like, like once I'm up there, Ilove that that feeling, even
though I will say it's veryhard.
I think the hardest thing aboutperforming for me is just
honestly the amount of work andpreparation that goes into just
the the one single performance.
colleyc (08:54):
Right.
Alex (08:55):
Because I like especially when not non-musicians don't
always totally realize likethat's a ton of work that goes
into that, you know, with likefour or five different schedules
and people and totally,totally.
colleyc (09:08):
So I look at it it totally is, you know, and those
are the kinds of things I mean,I was alluding to a little bit
before we hopped on here is thatthis is a tough business, like
it's very hard for musicians toonly rely on music.
You have to have some otherhustle, right?
It's just it's hard to do, andthe commitment-wise is is
(09:30):
insane.
And Scott, I'm gonna throw thisto you because I know you had a
single that came out just youknow recently, and and you've
been going through that youknow, the release kind of
windmill, you know, the churningof you know, we're record, we
mix, we master, we you know, allthis process has to take place.
Uh you get a single, yourelease it, uh hopefully you do
(09:54):
a few shows with it, and then itjust all starts over again.
How do you guys navigate thatas a group just with that
logistics and like because Ilooked on the Bandcamp page and
you have a lot of singles, butuh to my what I I didn't see any
LPs at this point.
Like, is it just like the thepoint just like very difficult
(10:17):
to do with all these differentschedules and yeah, for sure.
Scott (10:24):
It's really tough because we we have to make content, we
have to record.
I mean, these days it's likewe've got all these different
cameras.
Now we have a separate computernow just for like for cameras
and social media.
Like one can't one computer formusic, and then yeah, like it's
(10:49):
yeah, we're probably gonnastart working on a record
actually to how much decided tojust like rapidly Yeah, the last
couple days we're just likeokay, this is why you do a
record because you do you allthis planning and all the stuff
that you're talking about, themixing, you do it once, and
(11:09):
yeah, you know, it's our storyis kind of just unique because
we we were working on an albumand things just kind of changed
in my different directions, butbecause like pandemic stuff and
we don't really want to talkabout the pandemic and it's for
whatever reason we have a bunchof singles and now we want to
(11:30):
make a re finish a record.
Yeah, navigating that stuff isit it's too much, it's a
lot 'cause we're always all day,every day we have stuff to do.
Things that probably a labelwould be doing, but she's always
updating the bio and it's likewe don't really cut any corners.
(11:55):
We tr we try to do everythingthat a label would be doing,
take everything very seriously.
colleyc (12:05):
Totally, totally and Alex, like how did bring us
through Miraball's uhbeginnings?
Like what how did you and Scottand you also have Denny, right?
Denny Weston, who is is he alsoconsidered a part of I uh I saw
his name on he was playingdrums on some of your tracks
(12:27):
that was on bag camp.
But I mean, is it just the twoof you basically that are the
main nucleus for Mirabal?
Alex (12:35):
Yeah, basically, yeah, it's funny that you mentioned
Danny because he actually playedit with us originally in LA,
like when we very first started,and then a bunch of stuff
happened, but now he's on someof our more recent recordings
too.
But yeah, we basically juststarted out just a duo, and we
(12:56):
we kind of we had a lot ofmutual friends that were
musicians, and we but we hadnever actually met, and we were
both kind of like on a hiatusfrom our bands.
I had a band called White Dove,which was like kind of like a
DIY folk, little bit folk likerock band.
Um and he, I think you hadPrince.
(13:20):
Yeah, and so anyway, we wereboth kind of like on hiatus, and
finally we had talked aboutmeeting up to possibly work on
some music and like whatever,but it just never happened.
And then one night I was kindof like, all right, yeah.
And then um, he it was kind offunny.
I actually I remember I hadmoved back to my parents' house
(13:42):
like very briefly, anyway, for alittle bit.
And I was like, my car brokedown, like I can't leave.
And so he was in an Uber and hehad to reroute it to my
parents' house, which was up inSara Madre Canyon, and there was
like no reception, and it wasjust it was like a very funny
meeting because it was like inthe dark in the canyon, like
(14:03):
this random Uber, and then I gotthe Uber and I was like, Hi,
like nice to meet you for thefirst time in front of my
parents' house.
It's very strange, but umthat's how we met.
colleyc (14:14):
Yeah, and then it's what was your plan with that
initial meeting?
Was it to some songs?
You have some songs like whatwas your plan for that initial?
Alex (14:24):
I think we had no plan.
Like, I think we were just sortof like leaps in the wind a
little bit.
We we definitely were havingsome late nights around LA, just
kind of like going todifferent.
We were in party mode a littlebit, going to different bar
bars.
You know, I grew up rightoutside of LA and he was in LA
for like many, many years.
(14:45):
So we just have so many mutualfriends there.
So we were just kind of runningaround and we were having fun
and we were just like listeningto music a lot, but we never we
never actually like had aconversation about like this is
what we want to sound like orsomething like that.
Scott (15:01):
Like we actually let that Yeah, we didn't we definitely
didn't have a plan.
We sort of talked about doingmusic, but it was sort of a
backburner thing because shestill had hands.
But I don't mean to take over,but but we just ended up making
a song and uh and it was sort ofan accident, and I had sent it
(15:23):
to a friend of mine who I didnot know who was working at
Dangerbird Records.
I wasn't aware that he wasworking there, and then he asked
randomly asked me if I want toput this song out on Dangerbird,
and then so that's when we werelike, oh wow, now we have to we
hadn't had any plan, but it wassort of backburner plans, and
(15:46):
then we sort of had to makeplans like right away because we
were coming out, we weregetting asked to be on a label,
but okay, you can't.
Alex (15:56):
Yeah, yeah, each other like very intuitively.
I mean, there was zeropressure, like we were just
literally he made a track in thebedroom, and then I just sang
on it in the bedroom and he sentit to Dangerbird.
It was like the first you take.
Scott (16:12):
Well, I sent it to my friend and I didn't know.
Alex (16:14):
Oh, sorry, he sent it to his friend Aaron.
Scott (16:17):
No, my friend Brian.
Oh, anyway.
I had no idea he was working atthe label.
Alex (16:22):
Okay.
Oh, Brian Canning.
Okay, so he sent it to Nick, hesent it to his friend Brian
Canning, and then they heardabout Dangerbird and they liked
it.
And then we were like, oh,okay, cool.
Um yeah, but it was just verylike, I would say, intuitive.
We didn't really think aboutit, which I I've kind of like
that, I guess.
colleyc (16:39):
Um, how does this song percolate?
How does it come to be thatsomething that you would put
down on tape as opposed to we'llstore that for the future?
Because I'm not sure wherewe're going with it.
Like, how do you guys buildyour songs?
Like who like who who's kind ofdoing what amongst the two of
(17:05):
you?
Alex (17:06):
You want me to answer?
Scott (17:08):
Well, I I'll I'll make tracks and she'll kind of she
has a lot of creative input onwhat I should do.
So I try to make somethingthat's like what she's asking
for or what she but yeah, andthen we'll see what happens with
(17:29):
that track and sometimes it'llsometimes she'll write lyrics to
it right away, or like shewon't she's not really feeling
it or something, I don't know.
Alex (17:41):
And that track gets Grown out, no, actually, no, yeah,
it's oh Scott's like really goodat intuitively putting together
like drums and bass and guitar.
He's like really good at thaton logic.
And so like I'll hear it andI'll just be like, oh, I already
have like a melody and lyricsand stuff, um, pretty fast
(18:02):
usually, but every once in awhile I do still contribute some
chords, or like we have onesong that hasn't come out, like
Devil Mirror.
I think I wrote the chords andthen so I still contribute
sometimes with that, but usuallymost of the time he is he does
the track and then it'll justinspire like something in me, or
(18:22):
sometimes it won't at first,and then we'll put it aside and
a year later or something, likeI'll hear it and I'll be like,
Oh, this is like so awesome.
I don't know why I didn't likewe shelved this one or whatever.
So, yeah, we just have a lotright now that are unreleased
and shelved.
So we're going through goingthrough them again finally.
colleyc (18:40):
But yeah, that's great.
That's great to hear.
Cause I want more.
I definitely want more.
I'm glad that you guys are are.
It was one of the questions Iwanted to know is how is the
writing process going nowadays?
It seems like there's there'smusic coming out, and you guys
seem to be in a really nicegroove together.
And can you elaborate on likehow is it going now with with
(19:02):
this collaboration that you'redoing?
Scott (19:04):
I think it's going pretty good.
I think in the there were timesin the beginning where I would
get nervous, like, oh my god,how are we ever gonna write like
another good song?
And then somehow a year later,we have like a bunch more that
we're that we really like.
But I think we've gotten betterat sort of I used to make a lot
(19:28):
more tracks that didn't getused.
And now I'm the more I'm morethe ones I make.
Because I I guess I kinda havelearned or have got we've gotten
sort of like right.
Alex (19:41):
Yeah, I think that we like started out really intuitively,
and then I think I startedthinking about things like in
this weird way that I've onlyrecently come to realize that I
don't like.
Like I I prefer the moreintuitive, like when things come
together that way.
(20:01):
That's kind of just how we howwe are, and that's our kind of
way we work, like in this band.
And I think sometimes you cantry to force like, let's do like
a happy song or something, andit just doesn't, it's just not
from that that same place.
So I've sort of learned to likenot push against that and just
lean it to the direction of Iguess what we already were
(20:22):
doing.
colleyc (20:22):
So right, right, right.
I mean, if it's working too,right?
Like it's just reinforcing andtrying it, practicing it more
and more.
It seems to be like on theascent, you know.
Like I really feel thisprogression that's going on from
listening to your singlesthroughout, you know, one
listening.
I can start to pick out some.
(20:43):
But Scott, I wanted to ask youthis question is that how did
you how did you get on this kindof dream poppy?
Like you were talking about, Imean, and this is a while ago,
but you know, more of a grungy,you know, velvety underground y
like where did this come from,this style that you guys are
(21:06):
now, you know, bathing inbeautifully?
What what was the catalyst?
Or was it something that as youwere, you know, going through
your musical journey that youwere like, I want to start doing
things in a little bit of adifferent way, I want this more
vibe in it?
Like, how did you come to uhsay, okay, this is Miraball and
(21:26):
I want this kind of sound goingon with it?
Scott (21:31):
I guess I've I've definitely have always wanted to
do something more like involvedwith like synths or not like
heavy synth music, but I'vealways wanted to do something
more dreamy or yeah, it seemedkind of unattainable for some
(21:56):
reason.
Because when I was making musicin the past, it wasn't I didn't
always have access to likecomputers and like that's helped
shape, you know, uh using logicand it's kind of helped shape
and make it more possible to dodreamer music.
(22:17):
But I've always kind of uhwanted to do stuff that it's
like it's actually kind ofhilarious.
Like sometimes I want to dosomething and I'm like I
consider it dainty.
And probably the person dainty.
I love it.
Dainty have a dainty side.
colleyc (22:44):
I mean it's good to discover what you know yeah,
right.
I think too it's trickier toplay like playing loud seems
easier, you know.
It's not like where you canjust kind of thrash around, but
when you're like playing slowermusic, you have to uh focus
more, I think.
(23:04):
It's like it's not as just youknow, you know, uh pounding on
the guitar or like everything isplaced there for a reason and
you're building this kind ofmood and feeling as the song
evolves.
Not to say that you know rockand grunge and all that other
stuff isn't has its place.
I'm just saying it it's adifferent Yeah.
Scott (23:31):
I I mean some of my earlier bands that I was really
into are like Dinosaur Jr.,which are really loud.
But yeah, it's it's a biglearning experience to play a
lot softer and more sparse.
And it's I guess so you kind offind that you're hiding behind
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a big distorted guitar.
It kind of it feels reallyawkward to play soft and clean
and with like reverb.
I mean, even reverb is likesort of a crutch.
But uh the more it's definitelyawkward and it's you it takes
(24:12):
like getting used to and youhave to use we definitely have
to like use our brain a lot moreand arrange things so that
they're not so there'scaptivating and without being
loud.
And so yeah, it's I actuallywas a really sort of appreciate
(24:36):
the ascension like down involume.
It's been kind of I would sayit's definitely been a learning
experience and I actually didn'tthink it was possible to play
so soft.
I had friends who are a littlebit more like Cass McCombs, and
I was like, I just didn't knowhow they did it.
(24:57):
Now I feel like we could dothat.
Alex (25:01):
When when you're playing live, your nerves you
automatically start the volumeof air.
So it's really hard to restrainit down.
And it's actually somethingI've been trying to do for
years, and it's very hard.
And I remember like I wastalking to Nadelle Teresi, who's
like this really awesomemusician, and I just always
thought she was so great.
(25:22):
And like she we were talkingabout that and how like, you
know, like restraining, likewhen a band can really restrain
it down, like that's actuallyreally like kind of where it's
at, you know.
And so, like ever since thatconversation, I think that was
like five years ago orsomething, I was like about
that, and I agree.
I think it's kind of it is moredifficult, in my opinion.
colleyc (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And I I love your point to Alexthat you were like on stage in
particular, you know, becauseyou're just like the
adrenaline's going and there'speople talking, you're like, I'm
going over top of all that.
And it it it changes the wholemeaning of what your song might,
you know, the intent behind itanyway.
Alex (26:05):
Definitely, and it can change the genre even like a
little bit, and which is likeyou know, it happens and live is
live and whatever.
Sometimes it has that energy,but even just like the singing.
I mean, again, I try not to gettoo like on myself, but even
just that, like, I'll hear it.
I'm like, oh, I'm like yelling,like I don't like whatever.
(26:25):
But I try to just like let itroll off my back.
We actually, I think that isone way that we've grown, is
just we have gotten a lot betterat that.
And also, even our I I wouldsay our new song, our newest
song is slightly more complexand maybe a little more
restrained than our earliersongs.
And I don't know if it willkeep going into a quieter
(26:46):
direction.
We definitely have some alittle bit bigger, like
atmospheric things that we mightput out soon.
But but yeah, I would say thatis kind of one way that we've
grown probably in thatdirection.
colleyc (26:58):
I've been hearing it.
Like if you look listen throughyour singles, you can start to
the restraint and and like thenuances were so important.
Like, I just I've been reallyloving actually I stopped myself
from listening to it over andover because I don't want to
wear it out, but I've beenreally enjoying the detail of
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what you guys are doing.
And I'll I wanted to ask youtoo, like what like what what is
the future like look like foryou guys?
Like, what are your aspirationsas a group that you can share
with us?
And also what what do you seehappening the rest of this year
(27:41):
into 2026 with Murable?
Alex (27:44):
We see opening for Oasis and okay.
I don't know, like we it'sweird, as hard as it is and as
like kind of heartbreaking as itis out there sometimes.
Like, I think we just are bothwe're kind of like the energizer
bunny or whatever.
Like we just never give up, wejust go, go, go.
(28:06):
And I think that's one thingthat we have common because
we've we've both been playingmusic for so long.
And in LA, which is I would Iconsider the hardest city play.
I don't know if there is aharder city out there to play,
which I think in some weird waykind of makes you like I I'm
actually lying because I'mreally sensitive still, but I do
think it kind of makes you likestealed a little bit, which in
(28:29):
some ways is helpful.
But yeah, we just like like wesaid, I think we're just really
excited to continue like thisdirection.
We we have more songs thatChris Cody produced that we
actually haven't gotten out yet.
So we're really excited to getthose out, and then also some
newer ones and just kind ofround out the album.
colleyc (28:49):
And we're just excited to get an album out because we
want a tour and of he bring tothe recording process that was
surprising to you guys.
Alex (29:02):
I think, well, for me, I'll just answer really quick.
I think for me, like again,like with Chris, it was I almost
want to say intuitive, like weall sort of knew what it should
sound like in this weird way.
And that was interestingbecause I had not really found
anyone else like that outside ofScott, where it was like almost
(29:24):
like, yeah, like we alreadyknow, I don't know, what doing.
And I would say, like at thetime for me, it was kind of a
blur.
And then, of course, there's alittle pressure where I'm like,
am I like, you know, what if Idon't do a good job or
something?
It's like our day of recordinghere, and I don't know.
But when I look back, I golike, oh man, because he was
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always like some of the stuff,I'm not gonna lie, go over my
head, like when he was talkingabout just very technical things
that he does.
And some of it I would I catchon to.
But like one he would just dothese really little details that
were.
Really like in the momentyou're like, oh cool, but then
you realize later, like, no,that really mattered.
Like one thing that he did onlike red hot dust, I remember is
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he like I don't rememberexactly how he did it, but he
put the drums like a tiny bitbehind the beat.
Like I forget what he used.
Scott (30:17):
He he slid he he moved the bass a little bit.
Alex (30:20):
Oh yeah.
So he do stuff like that whereit was like like to try to make
him like more hypnotic.
Yeah.
It was just so cool to workwith someone that knows.
Scott (30:30):
Yeah, you talked about like a a very old logic click
that was kind of like forced thedrummer to kind of like play a
little bit.
So he did little things likethat that were like little
subtle production moves that youdon't really know you don't
really hear it or it doesn'tstick out, but it's like how the
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track moves and Yeah, totallyand I mean I imagine Scott that
experience for you as well, hadalready kind of had having
dabbled in the recording processand the mixing that like
whenever you bring another mindin, it must you know help your
mind expand.
colleyc (31:14):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Alex (31:15):
We learned a lot from recording.
Scott (31:17):
I learned a ton.
I learned everything prettymuch that we know.
Like our whole I I honestlydidn't even know how to use
logic very well.
No.
colleyc (31:29):
Okay.
But you did you did it, Scott,and you put stuff out doing it,
so you you're able to do it.
You know, yeah.
Scott (31:41):
In the beginning it was very it was very tough, but he
was actually very good aboutlike if I hit him up.
He's a very busy person andgets on a lot of big doing he's
always mixing some big band orsomething.
Alex (31:57):
Yeah, he's always busy.
Scott (31:58):
And he's totally willing to answer my dumb logic
question.
Alex (32:10):
He misses us.
Like why I gotta record vocalsa bit better after that.
Because I learned like a coupleof little tricks, just like
I'll record now my vocals athome without reverb because
because it makes you feel betterwhen you can hear reverbs while
you're recording, but youactually get better takes, I
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feel like, when you recordwithout just little things like
that that you don't really evennotice you're picking up on.
Yeah.
You kind of learned all thesenew things.
colleyc (32:39):
That's wicked.
That's wicked.
Well, and the music gets Imean, like I said, I feel like
you guys are raising and rising.
So I mean, I want to thank youguys both for putting the music
you have put out.
I've been enjoying the hell outof it.
I think it's very well done,very thoughtful and has just
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such a beautiful, complete soundto it.
I really think you guys are onto something exciting.
And that being said, I'm veryexcited about what's coming down
the pipe for you guys with withmore music.
I want to just thank you guysfor that, and also that I hope
that when you have your first LPout that we can get back
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together and and you know,dissect it and look at all the
little beauties that you guyshave created through the record.
Alex (33:35):
Definitely.
We love that.
colleyc (33:38):
And when are you guys thinking like that you might
have something that will bedropping?
Are you guys looking more to2026 for maybe an LP to be
released, or are you evenlooking further than that?
Alex (33:52):
No further.
No further than that.
colleyc (33:56):
Right.
Alex (33:56):
We were saying around like Yeah.
2026, for sure, yeah.
We were hoping March, but we'llsee.
But we're gonna see if we'regonna do any more singles.
We might do like one more.
But yeah, we're I think we'rejust gonna try to work hard on
getting the album done thismonth.
(34:16):
And then played it for we weretalking originally March, but
we'll see.
Yeah.
colleyc (34:22):
Amazing.
Well, I want my listeners outthere to go check these guys
out.
Go check a show out, pick up uma piece of merchandise, support
them.
It's really great music.
You'll love the track.
We're gonna play red hot dustat the end of this, so don't go
anywhere, people, because when Iwe stop talking, they're gonna
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start singing.
All the best, guys.
This has been a ton of fun.
I really appreciate you guyscarving a little time out to
share some of your story withus.
And I really look forward tothe next one.
Alex (34:55):
Thank you so much.
I really enjoyed your questionsand actually hearing Scott's
answers.
I didn't know so much.
colleyc (35:01):
There you go.
We learned a little bit abouteach all of each other today,
which is great.
Thanks so much, guys.
Thank you.
So welcome back, everyone, to another episode of
fitbeyourwill Podcast.
Searching the world for amazingindie artists, and I'm reaching
across the continent.
I'm in Montreal and I'mreaching over to LA to pull in
Mirrorball.
I have Alex and I have Scottfrom the band, and we've kind of
had some tricky schedulingproblems.
(01:01):
I got a cold.
Anyway, we finally figured itout, and here we are, and I am
so excited to talk to you guys.
Now, Mirrorball out of LA,they're dream poppy, but they
have this, I don't know, I'dalmost say a 70s aesthetic a
little bit.
Like it's just very spaciousand warm and airy, just really,
(01:23):
really good.
They've got tremendous amountof singles out.
They just had a single todropped last week.
And we're gonna talk about allof their music and kind of how
they got to the state in theirlives.
So, Alex and Scott, thank youso much for joining me.
I hope you guys are doing welltoday.
(01:43):
And uh I before we hopped on,you were alluding that you had
had a show yesterday.
So those vibes are probablykind of uh probably feeling a
little drained today.
It's I'm sure it's a lot ofenergy to pour out when you're
up on stage.
Alex (02:00):
Yes, for sure.
Thanks for having us.
Yeah, we might be a little bitlike post right now, but I'm on
the same boat.
colleyc (02:09):
I have been recovering from this cold, so my head is
still a little foggy as well,but it's nice because it fits
with this music you guys make,kind of dreamy, petty.
So before we start, guys, oflike getting into the mirror
ball music, I'd really like toknow each of you kind of like I
(02:33):
know that you guys have bothbeen in music for like two
decades, right?
Like, this is not your firstatom here.
You guys have been in this anddoing music for a long time.
Scott, maybe I'll start withyou.
Like, what how where did it allstart to make sense to you that
music was something that youwere gonna have to do?
Oh well, huh?
Scott (02:54):
I guess I started a my first band with my brother and
we ended up getting another banddrum and bass drums and bass
who were brothers, and I was wejust had a lot of fun.
You know, we didn't really knowhow to play our instruments
(03:16):
that well.
We had a lot of her I I guesswe we were had a lot of passion
and we were obsessed with thepixies and we just like went for
it.
colleyc (03:33):
Was this a a band that you guys started in like high
school or was it after highschool had kind of passed?
Scott (03:42):
After high school, probably I was probably like 21,
20.
I remember because I could Iwas worried about it must have
been like what I was 20 becauseI was worried about playing in
certain clubs.
colleyc (03:53):
Right.
Right, right, right.
Like what is it about musicthat had that that poll?
I mean listening toawe-inspiring musicians
definitely uh helps open thosedoors.
But what was it about wantingto actually do that process of
songwriting and and you knowbeing and and in front of
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people?
There's a lot of stuff thatcomes with that with that
vocation of choice.
How how did you how did youcome to kind of like figuring
that that was something that waswas gonna be important?
What were some of those salientmoments that you had?
Scott (04:37):
I guess I would say it was less about um I don't know
performing, yes, but recording,making a song, being in the
studio, recording a song, doingall the overdubs, and then at
(04:57):
the end of the night, like sortof being in the studio,
listening back to what you crwhat you recorded, what you
made, and it sounding reallygood in the studio.
Like that was that's probablylike the most uh like that's the
most fun for me.
That's the most fulfillingmoment for me is like hearing
(05:21):
something you created comingthrough the monitors and it
sounds if it isn't it's soundinggood, like that's I love that.
Yeah, totally.
colleyc (05:32):
And and what what was the style that you started kind
of playing?
Like was it similar to whatyou're doing with Mirror Ball,
or was it completely like adifferent uh stratosphere that
you were in?
Scott (05:45):
I would say it was more uh it was different.
It was more you know, Pixiesinfluenced 90s, not grunge, but
more 90s.
We were we were uh I would saylike uh Velvet Underground and
Pixies were two bands that mademe want to start playing music.
(06:07):
Right.
That's so cool.
colleyc (06:10):
Very interesting.
Now we'll come back to Scott'sum beginnings, but Alex, please,
I'd love to.
I mean, a similar kind of likewhen did music become apparent
that it had to be something thatyou did?
Alex (06:23):
Yeah, gosh, I'd have to go kind of far back, but I I
remember being in high schooland I heard I heard Leonard
Cohen, and that was when uhbecause I had kind of like
always wanted to be a writer,and I was like, well, if I just
write poems, like nobody's gonnaread them.
I was like, I'll just startsinging the like Leonard Cohen.
(06:46):
That's really what for me.
I just was like so inspired byhim.
And then the first song Ilearned was So Long Marion, like
on the guitar and the Smiths.
The Smiths were like the nextthing where I just was like,
this is the greatest thing ever.
Like, and I I kind of stoppedbeing like a good high like high
(07:06):
school student because Istarted to just care about
music, and like I cut all myhair off, and like I don't know,
I was getting into trouble alot, but yeah, that's where it
kind of changed for me at likethe Smiths.
I was just like, This is thisis it, you know.
colleyc (07:22):
Right.
And like, was it therealization too that you wanted
to be a performer?
Because I mean, I mean, you canwrite, you can record, but you
never have to perform.
You know, I spoke to a amusician last week and he's
like, I write a million songs aday, but I will never perform
them live.
Like he just it wasn't a partof something he wanted to do.
(07:45):
Was the performing alwayssomething that you were
interested in doing when youwere first kind of like coming
into it?
Alex (07:53):
Yes, I think like I I do have like a little bit of a
love-hate relationship withperforming live because I'm I
mean, just this morning I waslike, I have to lay off myself a
little bit because I'm verycritical of my live performances
and and I do feel likerecording is like where I'm more
(08:14):
natively like home.
It feels good to me.
And playing live, it's likeliterally, you never know what
you're gonna get.
It's a can of worms.
Like the sound can be great,the sound can be like bad, but
you're having a good night, orthe sound can be terrible, but
you're having a good night.
It's it's so many things.
And then there's the are yougonna be nervous?
Are you not?
(08:34):
And but I I kind of like loveit.
Like, like once I'm up there, Ilove that that feeling, even
though I will say it's veryhard.
I think the hardest thing aboutperforming for me is just
honestly the amount of work andpreparation that goes into just
the the one single performance.
colleyc (08:54):
Right.
Alex (08:55):
Because I like especially when not non-musicians don't
always totally realize likethat's a ton of work that goes
into that, you know, with likefour or five different schedules
and people and totally,totally.
colleyc (09:08):
So I look at it it totally is, you know, and those
are the kinds of things I mean,I was alluding to a little bit
before we hopped on here is thatthis is a tough business, like
it's very hard for musicians toonly rely on music.
You have to have some otherhustle, right?
It's just it's hard to do, andthe commitment-wise is is
(09:30):
insane.
And Scott, I'm gonna throw thisto you because I know you had a
single that came out just youknow recently, and and you've
been going through that youknow, the release kind of
windmill, you know, the churningof you know, we're record, we
mix, we master, we you know, allthis process has to take place.
Uh you get a single, yourelease it, uh hopefully you do
(09:54):
a few shows with it, and then itjust all starts over again.
How do you guys navigate thatas a group just with that
logistics and like because Ilooked on the Bandcamp page and
you have a lot of singles, butuh to my what I I didn't see any
LPs at this point.
Like, is it just like the thepoint just like very difficult
(10:17):
to do with all these differentschedules and yeah, for sure.
Scott (10:24):
It's really tough because we we have to make content, we
have to record.
I mean, these days it's likewe've got all these different
cameras.
Now we have a separate computernow just for like for cameras
and social media.
Like one can't one computer formusic, and then yeah, like it's
(10:49):
yeah, we're probably gonnastart working on a record
actually to how much decided tojust like rapidly Yeah, the last
couple days we're just likeokay, this is why you do a
record because you do you allthis planning and all the stuff
that you're talking about, themixing, you do it once, and
(11:09):
yeah, you know, it's our storyis kind of just unique because
we we were working on an albumand things just kind of changed
in my different directions, butbecause like pandemic stuff and
we don't really want to talkabout the pandemic and it's for
whatever reason we have a bunchof singles and now we want to
(11:30):
make a re finish a record.
Yeah, navigating that stuff isit it's too much, it's a
lot 'cause we're always all day,every day we have stuff to do.
Things that probably a labelwould be doing, but she's always
updating the bio and it's likewe don't really cut any corners.
(11:55):
We tr we try to do everythingthat a label would be doing,
take everything very seriously.
colleyc (12:05):
Totally, totally and Alex, like how did bring us
through Miraball's uhbeginnings?
Like what how did you and Scottand you also have Denny, right?
Denny Weston, who is is he alsoconsidered a part of I uh I saw
his name on he was playingdrums on some of your tracks
(12:27):
that was on bag camp.
But I mean, is it just the twoof you basically that are the
main nucleus for Mirabal?
Alex (12:35):
Yeah, basically, yeah, it's funny that you mentioned
Danny because he actually playedit with us originally in LA,
like when we very first started,and then a bunch of stuff
happened, but now he's on someof our more recent recordings
too.
But yeah, we basically juststarted out just a duo, and we
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we kind of we had a lot ofmutual friends that were
musicians, and we but we hadnever actually met, and we were
both kind of like on a hiatusfrom our bands.
I had a band called White Dove,which was like kind of like a
DIY folk, little bit folk likerock band.
Um and he, I think you hadPrince.
(13:20):
Yeah, and so anyway, we wereboth kind of like on hiatus, and
finally we had talked aboutmeeting up to possibly work on
some music and like whatever,but it just never happened.
And then one night I was kindof like, all right, yeah.
And then um, he it was kind offunny.
I actually I remember I hadmoved back to my parents' house
(13:42):
like very briefly, anyway, for alittle bit.
And I was like, my car brokedown, like I can't leave.
And so he was in an Uber and hehad to reroute it to my
parents' house, which was up inSara Madre Canyon, and there was
like no reception, and it wasjust it was like a very funny
meeting because it was like inthe dark in the canyon, like
(14:03):
this random Uber, and then I gotthe Uber and I was like, Hi,
like nice to meet you for thefirst time in front of my
parents' house.
It's very strange, but umthat's how we met.
colleyc (14:14):
Yeah, and then it's what was your plan with that
initial meeting?
Was it to some songs?
You have some songs like whatwas your plan for that initial?
Alex (14:24):
I think we had no plan.
Like, I think we were just sortof like leaps in the wind a
little bit.
We we definitely were havingsome late nights around LA, just
kind of like going todifferent.
We were in party mode a littlebit, going to different bar
bars.
You know, I grew up rightoutside of LA and he was in LA
for like many, many years.
(14:45):
So we just have so many mutualfriends there.
So we were just kind of runningaround and we were having fun
and we were just like listeningto music a lot, but we never we
never actually like had aconversation about like this is
what we want to sound like orsomething like that.
Scott (15:01):
Like we actually let that Yeah, we didn't we definitely
didn't have a plan.
We sort of talked about doingmusic, but it was sort of a
backburner thing because shestill had hands.
But I don't mean to take over,but but we just ended up making
a song and uh and it was sort ofan accident, and I had sent it
(15:23):
to a friend of mine who I didnot know who was working at
Dangerbird Records.
I wasn't aware that he wasworking there, and then he asked
randomly asked me if I want toput this song out on Dangerbird,
and then so that's when we werelike, oh wow, now we have to we
hadn't had any plan, but it wassort of backburner plans, and
(15:46):
then we sort of had to makeplans like right away because we
were coming out, we weregetting asked to be on a label,
but okay, you can't.
Alex (15:56):
Yeah, yeah, each other like very intuitively.
I mean, there was zeropressure, like we were just
literally he made a track in thebedroom, and then I just sang
on it in the bedroom and he sentit to Dangerbird.
It was like the first you take.
Scott (16:12):
Well, I sent it to my friend and I didn't know.
Alex (16:14):
Oh, sorry, he sent it to his friend Aaron.
Scott (16:17):
No, my friend Brian.
Oh, anyway.
I had no idea he was working atthe label.
Alex (16:22):
Okay.
Oh, Brian Canning.
Okay, so he sent it to Nick, hesent it to his friend Brian
Canning, and then they heardabout Dangerbird and they liked
it.
And then we were like, oh,okay, cool.
Um yeah, but it was just verylike, I would say, intuitive.
We didn't really think aboutit, which I I've kind of like
that, I guess.
colleyc (16:39):
Um, how does this song percolate?
How does it come to be thatsomething that you would put
down on tape as opposed to we'llstore that for the future?
Because I'm not sure wherewe're going with it.
Like, how do you guys buildyour songs?
Like who like who who's kind ofdoing what amongst the two of
(17:05):
you?
Alex (17:06):
You want me to answer?
Scott (17:08):
Well, I I'll I'll make tracks and she'll kind of she
has a lot of creative input onwhat I should do.
So I try to make somethingthat's like what she's asking
for or what she but yeah, andthen we'll see what happens with
(17:29):
that track and sometimes it'llsometimes she'll write lyrics to
it right away, or like shewon't she's not really feeling
it or something, I don't know.
Alex (17:41):
And that track gets Grown out, no, actually, no, yeah,
it's oh Scott's like really goodat intuitively putting together
like drums and bass and guitar.
He's like really good at thaton logic.
And so like I'll hear it andI'll just be like, oh, I already
have like a melody and lyricsand stuff, um, pretty fast
(18:02):
usually, but every once in awhile I do still contribute some
chords, or like we have onesong that hasn't come out, like
Devil Mirror.
I think I wrote the chords andthen so I still contribute
sometimes with that, but usuallymost of the time he is he does
the track and then it'll justinspire like something in me, or
(18:22):
sometimes it won't at first,and then we'll put it aside and
a year later or something, likeI'll hear it and I'll be like,
Oh, this is like so awesome.
I don't know why I didn't likewe shelved this one or whatever.
So, yeah, we just have a lotright now that are unreleased
and shelved.
So we're going through goingthrough them again finally.
colleyc (18:40):
But yeah, that's great.
That's great to hear.
Cause I want more.
I definitely want more.
I'm glad that you guys are are.
It was one of the questions Iwanted to know is how is the
writing process going nowadays?
It seems like there's there'smusic coming out, and you guys
seem to be in a really nicegroove together.
And can you elaborate on likehow is it going now with with
(19:02):
this collaboration that you'redoing?
Scott (19:04):
I think it's going pretty good.
I think in the there were timesin the beginning where I would
get nervous, like, oh my god,how are we ever gonna write like
another good song?
And then somehow a year later,we have like a bunch more that
we're that we really like.
But I think we've gotten betterat sort of I used to make a lot
(19:28):
more tracks that didn't getused.
And now I'm the more I'm morethe ones I make.
Because I I guess I kinda havelearned or have got we've gotten
sort of like right.
Alex (19:41):
Yeah, I think that we like started out really intuitively,
and then I think I startedthinking about things like in
this weird way that I've onlyrecently come to realize that I
don't like.
Like I I prefer the moreintuitive, like when things come
together that way.
(20:01):
That's kind of just how we howwe are, and that's our kind of
way we work, like in this band.
And I think sometimes you cantry to force like, let's do like
a happy song or something, andit just doesn't, it's just not
from that that same place.
So I've sort of learned to likenot push against that and just
lean it to the direction of Iguess what we already were
(20:22):
doing.
colleyc (20:22):
So right, right, right.
I mean, if it's working too,right?
Like it's just reinforcing andtrying it, practicing it more
and more.
It seems to be like on theascent, you know.
Like I really feel thisprogression that's going on from
listening to your singlesthroughout, you know, one
listening.
I can start to pick out some.
(20:43):
But Scott, I wanted to ask youthis question is that how did
you how did you get on this kindof dream poppy?
Like you were talking about, Imean, and this is a while ago,
but you know, more of a grungy,you know, velvety underground y
like where did this come from,this style that you guys are
(21:06):
now, you know, bathing inbeautifully?
What what was the catalyst?
Or was it something that as youwere, you know, going through
your musical journey that youwere like, I want to start doing
things in a little bit of adifferent way, I want this more
vibe in it?
Like, how did you come to uhsay, okay, this is Miraball and
(21:26):
I want this kind of sound goingon with it?
Scott (21:31):
I guess I've I've definitely have always wanted to
do something more like involvedwith like synths or not like
heavy synth music, but I'vealways wanted to do something
more dreamy or yeah, it seemedkind of unattainable for some
(21:56):
reason.
Because when I was making musicin the past, it wasn't I didn't
always have access to likecomputers and like that's helped
shape, you know, uh using logicand it's kind of helped shape
and make it more possible to dodreamer music.
(22:17):
But I've always kind of uhwanted to do stuff that it's
like it's actually kind ofhilarious.
Like sometimes I want to dosomething and I'm like I
consider it dainty.
And probably the person dainty.
I love it.
Dainty have a dainty side.
colleyc (22:44):
I mean it's good to discover what you know yeah,
right.
I think too it's trickier toplay like playing loud seems
easier, you know.
It's not like where you canjust kind of thrash around, but
when you're like playing slowermusic, you have to uh focus
more, I think.
(23:04):
It's like it's not as just youknow, you know, uh pounding on
the guitar or like everything isplaced there for a reason and
you're building this kind ofmood and feeling as the song
evolves.
Not to say that you know rockand grunge and all that other
stuff isn't has its place.
I'm just saying it it's adifferent Yeah.
Scott (23:31):
I I mean some of my earlier bands that I was really
into are like Dinosaur Jr.,which are really loud.
But yeah, it's it's a biglearning experience to play a
lot softer and more sparse.
And it's I guess so you kind offind that you're hiding behind
(23:51):
a big distorted guitar.
It kind of it feels reallyawkward to play soft and clean
and with like reverb.
I mean, even reverb is likesort of a crutch.
But uh the more it's definitelyawkward and it's you it takes
(24:12):
like getting used to and youhave to use we definitely have
to like use our brain a lot moreand arrange things so that
they're not so there'scaptivating and without being
loud.
And so yeah, it's I actuallywas a really sort of appreciate
(24:36):
the ascension like down involume.
It's been kind of I would sayit's definitely been a learning
experience and I actually didn'tthink it was possible to play
so soft.
I had friends who are a littlebit more like Cass McCombs, and
I was like, I just didn't knowhow they did it.
(24:57):
Now I feel like we could dothat.
Alex (25:01):
When when you're playing live, your nerves you
automatically start the volumeof air.
So it's really hard to restrainit down.
And it's actually somethingI've been trying to do for
years, and it's very hard.
And I remember like I wastalking to Nadelle Teresi, who's
like this really awesomemusician, and I just always
thought she was so great.
(25:22):
And like she we were talkingabout that and how like, you
know, like restraining, likewhen a band can really restrain
it down, like that's actuallyreally like kind of where it's
at, you know.
And so, like ever since thatconversation, I think that was
like five years ago orsomething, I was like about
that, and I agree.
I think it's kind of it is moredifficult, in my opinion.
colleyc (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And I I love your point to Alexthat you were like on stage in
particular, you know, becauseyou're just like the
adrenaline's going and there'speople talking, you're like, I'm
going over top of all that.
And it it it changes the wholemeaning of what your song might,
you know, the intent behind itanyway.
Alex (26:05):
Definitely, and it can change the genre even like a
little bit, and which is likeyou know, it happens and live is
live and whatever.
Sometimes it has that energy,but even just like the singing.
I mean, again, I try not to gettoo like on myself, but even
just that, like, I'll hear it.
I'm like, oh, I'm like yelling,like I don't like whatever.
(26:25):
But I try to just like let itroll off my back.
We actually, I think that isone way that we've grown, is
just we have gotten a lot betterat that.
And also, even our I I wouldsay our new song, our newest
song is slightly more complexand maybe a little more
restrained than our earliersongs.
And I don't know if it willkeep going into a quieter
(26:46):
direction.
We definitely have some alittle bit bigger, like
atmospheric things that we mightput out soon.
But but yeah, I would say thatis kind of one way that we've
grown probably in thatdirection.
colleyc (26:58):
I've been hearing it.
Like if you look listen throughyour singles, you can start to
the restraint and and like thenuances were so important.
Like, I just I've been reallyloving actually I stopped myself
from listening to it over andover because I don't want to
wear it out, but I've beenreally enjoying the detail of
(27:19):
what you guys are doing.
And I'll I wanted to ask youtoo, like what like what what is
the future like look like foryou guys?
Like, what are your aspirationsas a group that you can share
with us?
And also what what do you seehappening the rest of this year
(27:41):
into 2026 with Murable?
Alex (27:44):
We see opening for Oasis and okay.
I don't know, like we it'sweird, as hard as it is and as
like kind of heartbreaking as itis out there sometimes.
Like, I think we just are bothwe're kind of like the energizer
bunny or whatever.
Like we just never give up, wejust go, go, go.
(28:06):
And I think that's one thingthat we have common because
we've we've both been playingmusic for so long.
And in LA, which is I would Iconsider the hardest city play.
I don't know if there is aharder city out there to play,
which I think in some weird waykind of makes you like I I'm
actually lying because I'mreally sensitive still, but I do
think it kind of makes you likestealed a little bit, which in
(28:29):
some ways is helpful.
But yeah, we just like like wesaid, I think we're just really
excited to continue like thisdirection.
We we have more songs thatChris Cody produced that we
actually haven't gotten out yet.
So we're really excited to getthose out, and then also some
newer ones and just kind ofround out the album.
colleyc (28:49):
And we're just excited to get an album out because we
want a tour and of he bring tothe recording process that was
surprising to you guys.
Alex (29:02):
I think, well, for me, I'll just answer really quick.
I think for me, like again,like with Chris, it was I almost
want to say intuitive, like weall sort of knew what it should
sound like in this weird way.
And that was interestingbecause I had not really found
anyone else like that outside ofScott, where it was like almost
(29:24):
like, yeah, like we alreadyknow, I don't know, what doing.
And I would say, like at thetime for me, it was kind of a
blur.
And then, of course, there's alittle pressure where I'm like,
am I like, you know, what if Idon't do a good job or
something?
It's like our day of recordinghere, and I don't know.
But when I look back, I golike, oh man, because he was
(29:45):
always like some of the stuff,I'm not gonna lie, go over my
head, like when he was talkingabout just very technical things
that he does.
And some of it I would I catchon to.
But like one he would just dothese really little details that
were.
Really like in the momentyou're like, oh cool, but then
you realize later, like, no,that really mattered.
Like one thing that he did onlike red hot dust, I remember is
(30:09):
he like I don't rememberexactly how he did it, but he
put the drums like a tiny bitbehind the beat.
Like I forget what he used.
Scott (30:17):
He he slid he he moved the bass a little bit.
Alex (30:20):
Oh yeah.
So he do stuff like that whereit was like like to try to make
him like more hypnotic.
Yeah.
It was just so cool to workwith someone that knows.
Scott (30:30):
Yeah, you talked about like a a very old logic click
that was kind of like forced thedrummer to kind of like play a
little bit.
So he did little things likethat that were like little
subtle production moves that youdon't really know you don't
really hear it or it doesn'tstick out, but it's like how the
(30:55):
track moves and Yeah, totallyand I mean I imagine Scott that
experience for you as well, hadalready kind of had having
dabbled in the recording processand the mixing that like
whenever you bring another mindin, it must you know help your
mind expand.
colleyc (31:14):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Alex (31:15):
We learned a lot from recording.
Scott (31:17):
I learned a ton.
I learned everything prettymuch that we know.
Like our whole I I honestlydidn't even know how to use
logic very well.
No.
colleyc (31:29):
Okay.
But you did you did it, Scott,and you put stuff out doing it,
so you you're able to do it.
You know, yeah.
Scott (31:41):
In the beginning it was very it was very tough, but he
was actually very good aboutlike if I hit him up.
He's a very busy person andgets on a lot of big doing he's
always mixing some big band orsomething.
Alex (31:57):
Yeah, he's always busy.
Scott (31:58):
And he's totally willing to answer my dumb logic
question.
Alex (32:10):
He misses us.
Like why I gotta record vocalsa bit better after that.
Because I learned like a coupleof little tricks, just like
I'll record now my vocals athome without reverb because
because it makes you feel betterwhen you can hear reverbs while
you're recording, but youactually get better takes, I
(32:30):
feel like, when you recordwithout just little things like
that that you don't really evennotice you're picking up on.
Yeah.
You kind of learned all thesenew things.
colleyc (32:39):
That's wicked.
That's wicked.
Well, and the music gets Imean, like I said, I feel like
you guys are raising and rising.
So I mean, I want to thank youguys both for putting the music
you have put out.
I've been enjoying the hell outof it.
I think it's very well done,very thoughtful and has just
(33:02):
such a beautiful, complete soundto it.
I really think you guys are onto something exciting.
And that being said, I'm veryexcited about what's coming down
the pipe for you guys with withmore music.
I want to just thank you guysfor that, and also that I hope
that when you have your first LPout that we can get back
(33:25):
together and and you know,dissect it and look at all the
little beauties that you guyshave created through the record.
Alex (33:35):
Definitely.
We love that.
colleyc (33:38):
And when are you guys thinking like that you might
have something that will bedropping?
Are you guys looking more to2026 for maybe an LP to be
released, or are you evenlooking further than that?
Alex (33:52):
No further.
No further than that.
colleyc (33:56):
Right.
Alex (33:56):
We were saying around like Yeah.
2026, for sure, yeah.
We were hoping March, but we'llsee.
But we're gonna see if we'regonna do any more singles.
We might do like one more.
But yeah, we're I think we'rejust gonna try to work hard on
getting the album done thismonth.
(34:16):
And then played it for we weretalking originally March, but
we'll see.
Yeah.
colleyc (34:22):
Amazing.
Well, I want my listeners outthere to go check these guys
out.
Go check a show out, pick up uma piece of merchandise, support
them.
It's really great music.
You'll love the track.
We're gonna play red hot dustat the end of this, so don't go
anywhere, people, because when Iwe stop talking, they're gonna
(34:43):
start singing.
All the best, guys.
This has been a ton of fun.
I really appreciate you guyscarving a little time out to
share some of your story withus.
And I really look forward tothe next one.
Alex (34:55):
Thank you so much.
I really enjoyed your questionsand actually hearing Scott's
answers.
I didn't know so much.
colleyc (35:01):
There you go.
We learned a little bit abouteach all of each other today,
which is great.
Thanks so much, guys.
Thank you.
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