S2E10: Tanks, Boats, Armored Vehicles, and more

Former NSA boy genius Ted Yadlowsky joins us to discuss his passion for War boats, tanks, armored vehicles and we discuss an array of things. From the intel community, to politics, to movies his armored vehicles have been in. And of course, we go down some very interesting rabbit holes regarding #Covid, #Wuhan, #CIA, #FBI, #RussianHoax and the #Office of Net Assessment (ONA
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to igh Going Rogue. Today is Wednesday, February nineteenth.
Yesterday was my birthday, so we took the day off.
We didn't party, but we chilled all day. Did not
take one single phone call, which was great, so I
spoke to nobody except my family.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's always a.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Rare, rare thing.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
But we're back and today actually happens to be my
wife's birthday, So happy birthday. You're the best wife, sexiest
woman I've ever met. And I hope you love my
podcast too. Anyway, today we have an awesome guest, very unique,
very special, boy Genius. He was recruited to the NSA
while still in high school. Good friend of mine, and

(01:10):
well you'll you'll hear about it firsthand. But if you
like tanks, you like garment vehicles, you like spook war games, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
He's the guy. Tedy Lowski. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Ted, How you doing ivan so great?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Man? Jeez, you have your hands in just about everything.
Boy Genius recruited to the NSA in high school. Why
don't you tell us just that little part. You can
go as far or as deep as you want in
your career, or we can just dive straight into the
tanks and all the movies and cool shit that you do.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Are you to get to ask because people see the tanks,
they see the armor, they see all the you know,
the systems I've got, you know, even the World War
two vote, and they asked like, you know, did you serve?
And I said, no, I didn't serve, but I've been
around a lot of people who have served and help
support them.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
So I'm proud of that.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
And uh, you know, early age, when I was in
high school, I started working for the n s A.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I was a Sun administrator.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
So back in the day, Sun Microsystems made some pretty fancy,
uh high end Unix type systems, and I was a
Sun admin that was helping to manage and deploy and
support those systems for the agency. Left there, went to
work for Westinghouse Defense, and then they became North of Grumman.

(02:32):
I've worked for a lot of various defense companies over
the years. Worked for the uh, you know, the Navy,
the US Army mostly all it related and then.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I related but with clearance right with.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Clearance, yep, and uh basically you know, even the Office
of the White House worked that we worked for there
for some of their database systems because I got into that.
But and essentially, you know, from there created my various
I started working on the commercial.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Side as well.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
I've worked for a lot of Fortune five hundred companies
managing and basically supporting their IT infrastructure as well, and
been blessed met a lot of interesting people over the years,
and we got the privilege to work with quite.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
A few of them.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Most people say, I've never heard these names, but I mean,
if you read their bios, their past, it's it's it's
an amazing story that they have in themselves. So and
then the armor, the combat stuff that I've got, it's
all modern. It's nothing's an antique or anything, but you know,

(03:46):
it's kind of unusual to have fully modern vehicles like these.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
And then I.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Did recently acquire a World War two Korean War eighty
five foot army patrol boat.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, I've been on the mountain and it's, uh, it's fascinating, man,
It's beautiful. What an amazing what amazing vehicle. But before
we get into that, because there's a whole story behind
that and and the P five twenty dot org, I
suggest everybody but go visit that because we're gonna talk
a lot about that, but I'm gonna save that for
the second half of the show, Ted, if you don't mind,
I want to focus on all the fun ship and uh,

(04:20):
if shit hits the fan, I'm going to fucking Ted's house.
We can take over a fucking small country with the
ship you have over there. Between all the AMMO vehicles
and uh and weapons and AMMO that I have, I
think we're I think we can make it out alive.
But David, why don't you tee up one of his
one of his vehicles? Start off with the first one? Uh,

(04:41):
I love I love those, or start, you know what,
start the one with the models in it, because that's
a that's a that's a cool story. That's how me
and Ted met during COVID. Yep, there you go.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Solet so literally right before they did the Maryland lockdown,
we did this photo shoot and I have the GPV
armored eight by eight amphibious combat vehicle, the Colonel, and
then next to it is the TAN vehicle, which is
the ADVs Infantry fighting vehicle. And that's another armored eight

(05:16):
by eight. That thing's like a vault on wheels. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Right, so they go in the water.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, that's the kernel and the joint like tactical vehicle
made by eighty VS and again another really amazing vehicle.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
So and you know that.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Was from the show Lioness that we used the vehicles in.
So if anybody's watched Paramount Lioness, there's a scene where
she's at the i think basic training and vehicles are
driving around. Well, the Colonel and the joint like tactical
vehicle were there.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
So yeah, look at those things, man, I mean, go
go go through some of the vehicles, David.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, tell us about that.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
That one's cool, man, I'll take that one or you know,
or or or one of the eight by eights.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I think we can be pretty on soft.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
It's a very unique vehicle because it went through it
went through testing, It actually went through the competition down
in Mexico. They didn't go after the United States, they
went for Mexico. And that is in all these vehicles
are US made. Let me be clear, they're not. They're
not foreign vehicles. So a friend of mine developed, built

(06:30):
and engineered these vehicles and has basically sold most of
them overseas to our allies and the you know, so
they call it the rav which is that four by
four armor. It's basically a joint like tactical vehicle. But
it competed up against the Oshkosh and the other competitors
down in Mexico, and one of the big requirements was

(06:52):
fifty col resistance and it was the only one to
survive that wow, meaning pepper it and drive away.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I remember being inside of it, and it's got some
sleeves to put different layers of armor in it.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Right.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
That is actually the infantry fighting vehicle. The Chameleon was
another prior vehicle for the model shoot. That vehicle is
designed where you can actually, depending on the threat level
what you're going to engage in the theater, put different
layers of different protection inside between the armor, so it's

(07:27):
like a window a slide. You just slide it in
and then you can say, okay, this is going to
be kevlar, if it's going to be some type of
ballistic type mixed concrete and metal, you know, it's whatever.
It could be a high grade aluminum with ceramic inside.
So they have all different types of makes of armor

(07:47):
that they use, and that vehicle can just basically slide
it in to provide that extra level of protection for
your troops inside.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
So David find the picture of his two eight by eighths,
the colonel and the other one, the colonel and the chameleon. Right, yep,
colonel in the community, and see if you have both them,
the tan one and the black one. I think you've
got a couple of them.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yep, that's the that's the colonel.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, that one's fucking badass, dude.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah, that's that's always my friend's favorite. It was, Uh, that's.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
My favorite, dude, I want that fucking I want one. No,
that's not it. That was That was a six by six.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yep, that's inside the GPD it.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So stop right there, stop right there, go back, go back.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
So the cool thing about that, tell Us is you
can slide the wheel from one side to the other right.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Correct, and both vehicles. Actually the armored eight by eights,
you can actually slide the bearing.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Whale pedals and everything over to the passenger side and
vice versa. Just slide it back and forth.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
And you can also elevate right so you can raise
it and go and seek your head out right.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
It's so that you know, if the driver was to
be incapacitated, you could actually literally hit a button and
it would slide over and then you have it locked
in position and then you take over. Also that the
driver needs to do something he's involved with whatever.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Look at that amphibious other gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
The other thing is when you're going to different countries,
you know, and they drive on the other side of
the road, you could slide it over, so you don't
have your your American driving it and thinking he's driving
on the right side of the road and he's on
the wrong side.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Of the road.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
And there we see it in the water.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
So that's that is the amphibious capabilities of that vessel.
So it basically floats, you know. The US military tested
it and uh in fact, it didn't go with any
of them.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
It was supposed to happen.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
The m RAP program was funded and some kind of
shenanigans went on and they never received their funding. Uh,
so that company went under.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Basically, now we've got a doctor dog. We got to
doctor doge. Now that they're there, it is coming out
of the water, you know. And we saw the Chinese
try and create a vehicle like this, a copycat, and
it fucking sunk, right, It was a piece of shit.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah, it's sunk a lot, even even our current I mean,
I'm not trying to. You know, BAE has their vehicle
that they produced for the US Marine Corps and I'm
not sure, but I think they're right now not allowed
to swim in them because they've had some uh.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
So, if you know, you look.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
At the kernel, it's kind of an interesting design because
they do an engine that's sort of like a power pack,
and then he put a huge turbine fan that's hydraulically
driven that essentially creates this big air bubble inside the
engine compartment and there's a tornado that is formed inside
that engine compartment the system, but it also over pressurizes

(10:55):
it so if it actually was to roll over, that
bubble keeps the water out for quite a quite a
significant amount of time until the vessel will actually self
right itself back right.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So look at that.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
That's the FNSS vehicle. That's a company in Turkey that
purchased the licensing rights from GPV and they have their
new modern vehicles based on that GPV technology. So it's
a pretty bad looking vehicle. It's it's their modern special
Force Forces vehicle over there in Turkey. They sell Wow, Yeah,

(11:35):
that is the Colonel from Red Dawn. It was in
the movie for twenty twelve and down in Detroit, and
it played the enemy, which I believe was the North
Korean's not the Chinese.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah but yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Wow, So you're so the colonels being in Red don
And it was also in Predator, right, correct?

Speaker 5 (11:56):
That is I believe the Marshall and that was when
it was with the Misschigan. Uh state police, gotcha, look
at that one, that's the Predator and.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Look at the predator on the look at that Yeah,
two of them? Yep, So what predator was that? Was
that one? Two three?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
I believe that was Predator twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
And Uh.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
What's interesting is they had the original script and those
are the friendly predators that were working with the humans
to essentially fight the evil other faction of predators who
were coming to Earth to annihilate the human race. Oh wow,
it's like and that plot and that whole thing went

(12:47):
into a trash can because the executives, I believe what
I've read, did not like the fan reaction that there
were friendly predators with humans. They said that would never happen,
So they rewrote the script and the vehicle was pretty
much cut out, but the vehicle made it into the
movie posters.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's cool. Yeah, and you got paid, right, and you
got paid so that's what matters.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
And they filmed a lot with that vehicle.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's cool. Man.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I wish it had made it in the final cut.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
And they will never release the director's cut because of
just the two differences of how that had how they
made the.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Story that they made a toy, right.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, they even made a toy over it because it
was it was set to basically, you know, change the
way the Predator franchise was going to go.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So that is cool. That is really cool. So if
she hits a fan, man, where do we go. We
gotta get, we gotta get We got to get some vehicles.
Stays down here in Florida, dude. You know, if you're
in Florida, say in Florida, I would.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
Probably do a boat. But you know, it just you know,
who knows what's going to happen. But it's it's it's
I think it's uh, we should be very optimistic. We
got President Trump. I think we've got basically some accountability
starting to happen. I think, as you know, I talked
about the need to have elon day one after Trump.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Lost the election, that he is a priority.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
They have to, you know, get him on our side
because of the Republican Party doesn't really have any top billionaires.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
And we're hurting and it doesn't make any sense. It's
not because of our messaging.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
It's because we know we have an oppressive government that's
just got to be put back in check.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Did you find that video?

Speaker 5 (14:41):
We're happy with that and hopefully you know we can
we can put some safety measures in place our government
doesn't go back to this.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Hey, quick question, where can we find that video of
you running over that bus or van or that you're
driving through it?

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, that's fine if you google GPV. Ted Yulowski should come.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Up on on on YouTube, right.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, YouTube anything. I can send you a link.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
If you had a link, Senate to David. But that
thing is cool. Ship. I mean you're.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Driving with your hat out out the out the roof
and and you drive right through I think it's a
van or a school bus or something.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Right, Yeah, we well we've driven over a lot of vans.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
There is look at that playing.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
Hey there you go, full screen, go full screen.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Plaid out one more time.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, I need to get one of those. I need
one of those, man, Holy sick. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
But you also see in that is something that's very
unique with that vehicle that our current military vehicles don't have,
which is the all wheel steering. Also that airbag suspension system.
So you know, an Abrams tank has nineteen inches of
travel in their suspension, that kernel has twenty one inches

(16:41):
of travel. So it's it's quite a bit so it
can it can go over quite a bit of obstacles.
And it's also geared pretty powerfully to be able to go.
You put it up against a wall and it will
push through the wall.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's amazing, dude, h.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I mean it's it's it's uh piece of fascinating technology,
way ahead of its time. That's why f N S
S and Turkey, Dusan in South Korea and Malaysia has
def tech. They all have a similar vehicle with that technology.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
So I don't mean to get one.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
So did they make them anymore or you guys only
work by custom custom orders they do.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
It's it's basically you know, looking for somebody who in
the you know, in the United States. It's it's it's
very difficult to compete against General Dynamics or any of
the big companies. It's it's pretty much unfair practices, so
they don't even try. They're just looking at overseas market. Yeah,
it's it's you know the days of like the World

(17:45):
War two g you know, Bantam was the company that
made it and and beat everybody out.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
GPV was similar in that sense.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
There they had a vehicle that was just far superior,
and you know, it had its issues, but they were
all technically obviously worked out. FNSS figured out what they
needed to do, Dusan and Deftech and you know, they've
got a great vehicle. We just don't have it within

(18:14):
the military industrial complex. I believe that you can get
this stuff in there.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
They want guiding older vehicles, maintaining that logistics trail of
all those parts, and you know, upgrading it constantly.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
The Striker is a very old vehicle. It's not really
modern so well, and it's.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Very corrupt, right, I mean, they spent millions and millions
of dollars in lobbying.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
And look at the m RAP program and what do
we do with those We left them behind. We didn't
want them, and nobody wanted them because they were pretty
much junk uh, police departments. It was like, how do
we get rid of these things?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
And even you're talking about the ones in Afghanistan, right, Well.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
There's Afghanistan, Iraq. There's a bunch of them we built.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
You know, if you called when we first went in
the second time for the Gulf War and we took out, saidam,
we had people upgrading the hum v's and they were
overweighing the chassis on them. And then we said, okay,
we got to do the m RAP program, which was
a heavier, you know, four x four vehicle truck that
they armored up to try to survive through IEDs. And

(19:23):
you know, they brought some of them back, but most
of those vehicles we left behind. We just said, let's
get rid of these things. They just don't work well,
they break down. There was tons of issues and.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
What about the armor on them? Were they effective or
they suck too? Because we know there was a lot
a lot of injured.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
I think, you know, in my opinion that the government's
behind they're looking at Millspec armor. When you look at
the kernel, I get away with the reason I get
to own that is because it's not Millspec armor.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
It's actually better so it's a high grade steal.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
When you look at the the Chameleon, the other infantry
fighting vehicle, again, it's not Melsbeck armor.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
It's better.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
So and that's where you know it's it's actually classified
as a truck. As long as I don't mount a
weapon on it, it's a truck.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
So that's why you can drive it on the street.
And you know, there's a cool story about that.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
They also have numbers they built them with in numbers.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, and there's a cool uh, there's a cool story
that that I'd love for you to share to everybody.
You know, when when when they locked it down the
People's Republic of Maryland, the most communist fucking state in
the country with with the most fucking liberal pieces of
ship on the face of the earth, maybe second only
to California, you have to mobilize those tanks or those

(20:45):
two those two vehicles, and you took them on the street,
and everybody all social media lit up in the state
of Maryland, going, uh, Marshal war is in effect Trump
is called marshal war.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
There are fucking tanks on the street and uh, and.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
It was ted and I was laughing my ass off,
and so go ahead, you tell us the story.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
So we had the vehicles and there was a high meeting.
Basically one of my clients was involved with a meeting
with a whole bunch of officials. There were people from
the Pentagon, there were people from Homeland Security and other agencies,
and there was discussion about my vehicles and the aid

(21:28):
of those vehicles, because one of the things I'd like
to talk about is that those vehicles have been used
like in Katrina, for emergencies, and I'm always up for
allowing them to be used in that fashion to help people,
because when you have a hurricane and everything's all over
the road, you're not getting an F three fifty or

(21:48):
four fifty or any other type of around to get
into those areas that people need help. Yeah, the Kernel
and the other you know other vehicles we have can
pretty much go anywhere they want and go over that
kind of terrain because of the travel in that suspension.
So they wanted to see them, and so I said, look,

(22:12):
you're kind of given me this last minute. I can't
really just contract a semi truck and load them up
in time. And I said, they're drivable. Are you going
to give me like a pass to like drive these
on the street, because I don't want to be responsible
for the you know, panic and emergency that's going to
come when driving.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
These vehicles down the road. And I did. I got it.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
I mean, the governor said, yep, you can do this,
nobody will rash you, and you know, bring them down.
So we literally drove from Baltimore City where I had
them kept, and we moved them and drove them down
to where this meeting was GIPS near Gibson Island, and
we created a lot of panic. I mean, you know,

(22:57):
people were pulling into the parking lot. Women were crying saying,
thinking martial law had got back, somebody was badly infected
with COVID, and I had to explain that no, none
of that was the case.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
We were asked to bring.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
The via I remember seeing some posts. I remember seeing
some posts saying martial law they're going to start, you know,
rounding people up and putting us in camps.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
And I did what I could just you know, say, look,
that's not the case. The government doesn't own these these
are privately owned, and uh, you know, we were asked
to come to basically showcase what the vehicles could do
and provide in case.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Of an emergency situation.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Yeah, because the vehicles can actually be used as an ambulance.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
They've been used that way because they can.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Get into areas that, you know, travel into places where
you you can't get to.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well on the back in the back of the in
the the vehicles, you can fit how many troops how
many troops.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
The colonel, I believe that maximum is eighteen.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, it's pretty big. So it's bigger an ambulance, right,
I mean.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
You're tight, but I mean yeah, you can squeeze them
all in there. You know, the infantry fighting vehicle. I
think it's something like fourteen or sixteen, so, but yeah,
it's they're amazing vehicles.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
And you had to pull over to get gas, right,
and did.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Actually we made a mistake where I usually don't keep
a lot of fuel in them, and we always have
to travel to a diesel station because I usually you
will pump out some of the diesel fuel out of them.
This is because I don't I worry about somebody getting
in there figuring out how to operate it and going

(24:35):
on a rampage.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, they won't get very far.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
And we made it to cherry the gas station outside
of Cherry Hill and which is less than a mile
and the Chameleon basically made it into the parking lot
and we had to pull it with the kernel to
get it to the gas pump.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh it ran out of gas.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Wow, it ran out of diesel. Just took a little
too much out and then we filled it up.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
And we had a lot of people stop by and
ask questions, get pictures, and you know, everybody's asking, is
this martial law And I'm like, no, no, these are movie vehicles.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
They're they're they're this and uh, you know, even I
think it was Maryland National Guards stop by because they
were down in Baltimore City at the same time, because
this is when Baltimore riots had happened and there was
a worry of another flare up and they're like, what
unit is this And I'm like, there's no unit, I said,
these are these are private vehicles.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
So then they're pretty impressed.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Right here, here's the registration, here's the tag, you know
you can see, and they were like, that's so cool.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
So but I like helping people with them.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
I mean, that's that's It's a great feeling when you
can do something and offer up these vehicles and say, hey,
we can help people in an emergency crisis situation.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Do you have that picture of Katrina. I think he
had a couple of Katrina in there somewhere yep.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
So and you know, in Katrina was kind of interesting.
They were there.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
They you know, the Colonel could float and it actually
was floated out to many people's houses that were underwater.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
We're off the air there, you go. Just just slide
through the pictures.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Don't blank us out, all right, because I don't know
what you did, but you put a blank screen on.
So or just go through the pictures and scroll through
them and he'll tell you which one it is. Which

(26:37):
one is that?

Speaker 4 (26:38):
That was actually Harrisburg car show.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh that was a car show.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, car show and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, drove up to the capitol.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's Katrina.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
So you have to make it bigger. There you go, Wow,
that's Katrina and everything.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Look at that Humphy in the back in the back.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
I think I sent you a few extras. But you
can see the debris everywhere.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
And that's National Guard was using it. I'm sorry the
National Guard.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
You were helping the national Guard. I'm to help rescue
people also kind of also do law and order. So
the vehicle I think took a few shots. Somebody had
told me that, you know, because it was kind of
chaos in those days, and we were trying to get
people tore like, look, militaries coming in, National Guard, there's curfew,

(27:34):
stop the looting, and uh, you know people are here
to help and assist.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
You know, you're pretty protected in that vehicle.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
So but you know, I was saying, you know, you
had houses that were underwater, You had all this livestock
that were standing on the roofs, thousand horses, and if
they didn't go out and rescue them, they would have died.
And so the vehicle was actually used as a floating
barge basically to go out and rescue horses and cattle

(28:05):
and other animals off.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
The roofs bring them to shore.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
So that way they didn't die, because we didn't want
to You didn't want to have a cholera outbreak, right,
these dead animals and so forth.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
So what did you do? You put them in the back.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
No, they were on top of the vehicle.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
You remember the photo of the vehicle sits pretty low
in the water when it's floating.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's stuck it on top, so.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
You put like fucking cows and horses and shit on
top of it at.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
A time, and they would actually float back and forth.
And yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
So I don't have.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Any photos of that, but you know that's what you know,
the guys that did those missions, that's what they told
me they did.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
So that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
So how did you get into this armored vehicle stuff,
because you're pretty into it. You have a collection. Uh, David,
why don't you open up armor for rent so we
can take a look at his web page. He's got
a whole bunch of pictures of equipment and and and
things like that. I know you rent it out to cities, municipalities,
the government and uh and the people wanting to do
private events and movies.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Look at that.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah, we'll probably actually try to do movies and just
the government. I mean I get calls and say, hey,
can you bring it to uh, you know, my bachelor
party or or yeah, you know prom or something.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
I go, no, we don't really.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Do that, so, but uh, you know the vehicles, and
I don't have all the vehicles in there.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Scroll down, there's something scrolling there.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
You go it just gives a sense. It's more of
a business card thing to say. Look, if you're a
movie company and you want something different, modern, we have it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
And then you also saw the boat there.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Let's see that video. What video is that? I think
that one's running That one's running off the ground.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Right, Yeah, that's a drone flying through it and everything.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
That was a cool video of this.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Dude, I need one of these. That thing's common too, man.

(30:13):
It's going pretty fast.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yeah, it'll do sixty five. The other helions to go
one hundred.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
The world of way, so that I don't know if
you notice, that's kind of significant to do that, but
it just did.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Because it's rounding the top of a peak.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
And you did that in a pickup truck, you're just
gonna bottom out and then you're not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Dude. That thing is badass, man.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
So it'll go up a you know, sixty degree incline
and it's got a lot of capability.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
And how fast does it go top end?

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Sixty five is its top end?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, dude, I mean that thing was humming on that
fucking dirt road.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Now here's the funny part. The engine that's in there
is a Caterpillar C seven. So if you're a diesel
guy and you know what that is, you go, wait
a minute. You're telling me a school bus motor is
in this souped up school bus motor. It's a it's
a military C seven. I believe it's two to three
hundred and seventy horsepower.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
So you can actually upgrade it to one of the
new like Cummings or whatever.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Now that the engine do.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
That, I'm redesigning the vehicle inside an internal and rearranging
transfer cases and a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Look at the tires. All four tires, all eight tires
turn right? Yeah, all turn That's amazing, dude.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
My turning radius is shorter than a Corvette. I mean
it's yeah, or a portion nine to eleven. It's it's
pretty bad, dude.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
That's a fucking amazing. How do I get one? How
do we get one? We're gonna need one when we
do the Going Rogue Road Show.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Give me seven million dollars and I'll get you one billing.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Holy shit, We better get sponsors for that quickly, man,
because I can't afford seven million today, but we definitely
need that vehicle.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I need to park outside of my house.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Hopefully we won't go to Armageddon, but if she hits
a fan, you definitely want to be in one of those, right, I.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Mean, it's six ways of Sunday.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
I mean, you know, you know you're gonna be safe
if you've got to go to the Walmart and pick
up some toilet paper from the row.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, fucking crazy, dude.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
That is awesome. So how did you get involved in this?

Speaker 5 (32:41):
I mean, just because of everywhere I've worked and the
various defense companies I've worked for, I knew about this company.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
You know.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I also did some lobbying back in the day.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
I worked for a nonprofit, the United States Naval Fire
Sports Association, and proud of that.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
That's where we were reried about naval gunfire, naval surface
fire support for our Marine Corps and our troops ashore.
We don't have any today.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
The US military just doesn't seem interest in providing I
should say the US Navy has no interest in providing
that service to the other forces. And they've pretty it's
it's like the close air support game. You know, they
want to get rid of the A ten, claiming the
Joint Strike Fighter can do it all. So and you know,
I would say, now you're not going to get air

(33:29):
support to do what naval surface fire support, naval gunfire
support does, and yeah, but we're looking at dwindling.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Budgets, wasteful spending.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
I mean, it's we've lost a lot of capability and
there's a lot of probably bigger fights to fight now
to try to straighten out our military.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
So, but you've been involved in a lot of stuff.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
I got involved with armor and amphibious warfare and so forth.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
But you've also been involved in munition.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
You designed I think a hypersonic round or something about
that I.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Worked with in the United States Naval Fire Support Association.
I worked with doctor Dennis Riley and we developed a
sixteen inch hypersonic scramjet round and we worked with Pratt
and Whitney on that project as well.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
So they came to their.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Conclusions and we had around I think I gave you
the Pratt Whitney letter, but essentially around that could travel
four hundred plus miles within minutes fired from a sixteen
inch gun.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Yeah, So we were fighting to try to reactivate the
Iowa class and modernize them again, and we just dealt
with the US Navy and the Shenanigans at the leadership level,
and sadly the Iowas were retired.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
They shouldn't have been.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Retired the way it was done, because the way we
had previously written a law back in I think it
was ninety five. The law stated that the Secretary of
the Navy needed to certify to Congress that they had
a capability of naval surface firesport equal to or greater
than the Iowa class battleships. Well, instead of the Navy

(35:08):
actually doing that, they decided, well, we'll just repeal the law.
So they lobbied on their own and got Congressman Pombo
of California to advocate their removal of that law, and
the Iowa's them were delisted and no longer maintained, and
they were donated as museums. Now it's like we're shooting

(35:30):
ourselves in the foot and losing capability.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Some will argue and say, oh, those days are gone.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
For those ships, and it's like you can debate that,
but I would say and argue, no, I don't think
that's the case. Yes, they're old, but they had a
lot of capability in them, and they provided that capability
during the eighties and the nineties during.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
The First Golf War.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Remember, they were what provided a credible feint to Saddam,
and we didn't know what their capabilities were at the time,
so we fade an amphibious landing and we put the
two battleships there, and we pummeled Saddam's forces because he
put a lot of his forces down on the beach
thinking he was going to get a D day landing,

(36:11):
and the reality was we were actually coming around the
other side around Kuwait, going in and cutting them off,
and we destroyed the you know, the Republican National Guard
and so forth. But you know, it was the two
battleships there on the First Golf War were strategically needed
and necessary for schwartz cough plan to work, so and

(36:33):
he fought to keep those ships there.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
So and it was a success.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
And you've been involved in you know, not not only
on the spook side, but on the defense side as well.
And you supported a lot of these things out there too, right,
Maybe you can't talk about it, maybe a lot of them,
but you supported a lot of black op shit.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Right I did.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
I mean, I had I had people who did things
and helped support the I T wise and try to
make sure that they had capabilities and these were like
I really don't want to go into it, be honest,
but their entities working off to the side for our country.
And uh, you know when you when you talk about

(37:11):
the awakening and and and this, you know, all this
surge and so forth in Iraq during that time period.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
So how do you handle comms like that? If if
if you can't get into it, then then don't. But
how do you handle comms when you're when you have
a black ops operation going on?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
And keep it secure and keep it I guess under
the radar? Is that even a thing?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Well, I mean you could get there's ways of doing it.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
I mean, yeah, it's kind of interesting because I worked
with guys who were, you know, spies during World War Two,
and you hear about how their trade secrets were, this,
this and this and some of those secrets. You they're
still classified how they did what they did, so they
had methods of getting communications out to.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Curely, you know.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
And then you get into the Cold War aspect of
how it was done. And I worked with people who
did that so and they talked about it. You know,
you get into Vietnam and some of the syops operations.
I got to work with a lot of individuals that
were involved in the early days of Vietnam, and you know,

(38:23):
and those people were instrumental in working with me during
the time I was with the United States Naval Fire
Sport Association, the nonprofit fighting for naval gunfire for troops ashore.
So there's ways to do it. I mean in a
modern world. I mean you're looking at, Okay, what resources
do we have. I always laugh at sometimes the you know,

(38:46):
there was that one war game that was done, and
we like to do war games, and I'm trying to
remember the Marine Corps general's name, but you know, he's
saying the Navy's carrier twice in that war game, and
he he basically was Iran. And they kept saying, well, no,
you can't do this, you can't refloat them. And they say, well,

(39:08):
it's not realistic. You're you're somehow cheating because you're communicating
in some method that we can't figure out. But and
you're moving and mobilizing troop assets to attack us and
take advantage of us, and it just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
You have to be cheating. And they called the game.
But he wasn't cheating.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
He was using carrier pigeons, and he was using all
the other electronic equipment to send false messages and fake
information to us thinking they were doing this.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
It was that simple.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
So justmanship, that's it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
So, I mean there's ways to get communications out if
if you and I wasn't using carrier pigeons. But but
there's ways to do it and do it secretly and
you know in a way that they go wow, you know,
And some of that gets back to just taking advantage
of certain tech analogy that you had at the time

(40:01):
that was available to do what you were doing.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, well, let's go into the uh because that's a
special project. I know, it's very close and dear to you,
and and you've had quite quite some battles over that,
over that vessel, right.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Yeah, I mean, that's it's a story.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
It's a long story in itself, so I won't go
too long into it, but maybe just.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Maybe start with the history of what what that vessel is?

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Right, well, it is it is the last of the
eighty five foot World War two.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
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We'll be right back to We're going to our friend.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Uh, mister pillowman, sounds good.

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Speaker 5 (42:00):
So the P five is the last eighty five foot
World War two Korean War, complete World War two Korean
War US Army Air Force patrol boat, and it's pretty
historically significant because you can trace its origin or it's
you can trace Marine Special Forces back to these vessels.

(42:24):
The OSS used these vessels, a lot of them in
Burma the Indian campaign during World War two, and a
lot of things are happening with this where you had
guys who were Army guys, who were Navy guys who
were Coast Guard all put together as a unit and

(42:44):
they formed a special forces unit, and you had also
civilians and started using a lot of technologies back then
to do sabotage missions against the Japanese because in that area,
the Japanese were getting oil refineries and taking oil to
resupply their Japanese fleet, so their engine and a lot

(43:08):
of emphasis obviously was put on the Pacific to take
back the islands. So this kind of almost gets forgotten
that there was this Indian Ocean campaign as well, because
Japanese had taken over, you know, Burma, parts of India.
They were spreading out everywhere and nothing was seeming to
stop them. And these guys on eighty five foot crash

(43:29):
boats didn't seem much of a threat to the Japanese
and because the ships were sort of a known as
a rescue vessel. In fact, the gentleman who was in
charge of it, Walter mess he refused to repaint the
vessel any other colors because he wanted it to stand
out as a rescue vessel.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
So they're called crash boats, right.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Correct, And these vessels were used primarily to go out
and rescue down pilots.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
So there it is.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
They were, you know in the early days.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
That's yours, right, that, that's your that's your things.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
In Cambridge, Maryland where they actually produced and built them. Uh,
wasn't built there, but the Cambridge City built quite a
few of them.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
That's her pulled out on the rails that you know,
launched some of her sister ships. So that is a
crash boat in during the Korean War. And that's that's
another interesting tidbit because you don't see pete boats coming
back during the Korean War except for when we gave them.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Over to the Korean forces.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
We we gave some and when the Korean War was
starting and we were you know, the army intelligence was
in a panic, going we we got rid of these units.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
We we don't have these O S S. Special forces units.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
These were very highly successful doing all these clandestine missions
behind enemy lines to sabotage them.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
So they had to bring it back.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
And so they reactivated these boats to do those missions.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
And that was one of them.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Oh wow. So so where were they built.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Over the United States? So all down the East coast.
They were built in Michigan. They were built in the
West Coast, just like the PT boats were.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
They were cheap. They were made of wood, and they
were made to a certain specification that the Army had
set with the design and pretty much they were almost
all cookie cut it out with the same specs.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
So they were made out of wood. So if they
took a direct hit, they sunk.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
They took a massive hit. They were probably going to
blow up. The reason is the crash boats ran on
these uh on basically aviation fuel, which is high octane
aviation fuel, so it's very flammable. In fact, nobody smoked
on these vessels would never care, and.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
So that's what you thought me not to light a
cigarette when I was on board. There you go.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
But they had packard motors, these packered Forum twenty five hundreds,
and they roughly produced fifteen hundred horsepower, and they'd have
twin engines. Well, the crash boats were a little bit
faster than some of the p T boats because p
T boats may have had three of those engines, but
they had all the torpedo weight, they had a lot

(46:24):
more armament carrying on board, and crash boats didn't, so
they were they were slightly faster. I'm going based upon
the mission logs of Walter Mess and his guys that
were out there in Burma. But you know, when they
were basically getting light on fuel and everything, those boats
actually pretty they hauled. I mean they were they were flying.

(46:49):
I think Walter Mess said, we recorded fifty two knots.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
And that's in the Pacific, you know, Indian Ocean.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
So you know, it's kind of great to be able
to save this piece of history because I feel like
that's what I did. This vessel sadly fell into the
hands of a shady nonprofit museum group posing as veterans,
and for the most part they weren't veterans.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Only a few of them were.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
And some of them actually had dishonorable discharges. Oh wow,
So it was a bad group. They faked their way
into getting this donation donated BOTE to them. And you know,
I found this out because I said, things just don't
add up, the lies, the stories, and so I basically

(47:36):
worked with some of the victims and we recovered.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
That vessel and I now owned the vessel.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
I'm working hard to try to make it into a
museum and have it preserved so that you know, it
can tell their stories because a lot of the people
have never heard of these vessels, and it's because they
were part of the OSS and those missions have.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Been remained classified up into the nineties.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Even the missions that were done in Korea by Army
Intelligence and the CIA that use these vessels, those missions
remained classified for a long time.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
So what's the mission of the of the organization?

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Ted so P five dot org is the website I've
just started creating the nonprofit. We've applied for the I
r S paperwork for the five on one three C
and uh waiting to get that back. So I can
say all right, we can now fundraise officially.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
There you go go ahead, Ted, So hopefully.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
That'll be soon.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
I'm hoping in the next you know, hopefully next month
will have that.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
So where are we going there? So you go, you're
you're telling the story down there.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
See if you can scroll down a little bit on
the page, walk us through, David, Let's see what do
you got? So you have a video there, and I
guess it's selling the story, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Yeah, let me tell you about that video.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
So that video, I've got the rights to it from
the people who are really the last.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Remaining played on me. So ta can walk us through it, yep,
and go full screen.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
So that video if you want to turn it down.
But that video is I've got the rights to it.
It's from the veterans who served.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
On those vessels.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
And there's only I think about three alive today, one
World War two veteran and two Korean War veterans. And
basically it tells their service being on those vessels, whether
they're in the Aleutian Islands where the Japanese had attacked
and invaded, or the Pacific or the you know, Mediterranean,

(49:37):
the Atlantic, and also the Indian Indian Ocean. So and
this is this goes back into the nineties when they
had one of their reunions and they had quite a
few members back then that were still alive, but today
they're just so fuelble. So this helps tell their story
of their service, their sacrifice crash boats and what they

(50:01):
were doing on those vessels. And you know, you talk
about PTSD, you know, there was nothing more you know,
beating on you when you were a crash boat veteran.
Telling me the story is about every time they would
go out, especially in the Alaska of Waters, trying to
rescue a down airman and not getting there in time

(50:23):
and they were going as fast as they could. Yeah,
and this kind of tells their story about that, you know,
and your heartache, the pain. A lot of guys that
did it couldn't do it for very long because it
was it just it hurt your psyche to just always
be recovering bodies.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah, that's gonna be terrible, but they did their best.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
There was a cool video. Man, how long is.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
It that videos? I think about forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Wow, that's very cool.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
We'll make sure you guys go to p five dot
org and watch it and take a you know, walk
around that site. It's pretty cool. There's a lot of
resources in there. So so what are you going to
do with it? Where you going to station this vehicle
or this vessel and what's the plan?

Speaker 5 (51:10):
So right now, the plan is to get the vote repaired.
She needs to be hauled out very soon. In fact,
we'll be having her hauled out at Atlantic Yacht Basin
down in just south of Norfolk and she'll have her
repairs done, her whull survey done. Once that's all completed,
then I can properly get her insured so that I

(51:33):
can take people on board and we can do things
with her. And what I really want to do with
her is have veterans on board, guys who basically are
dealing with PTSD disabled veterans, and have companies help sponsor
those events so that we can talk about the history
of the vessel, what these members of this crew dealt

(51:55):
with back during World War Two, and that what they're
dealing with today, they're not alone and it's not new
and and and help help our veterans. As you know, Ivan,
I do a lot. I've you know, even loaned out
my vehicles for a d o d uh commercial sort
of that dealt with this PTSD and and trying to

(52:16):
prevent soldier suicide. And I'm proud of that because you know,
they needed they couldn't use the military's vehicles, so they
needed something that resembled what they had. I lent my
vehicles for free. I said, let's do this commercials. Let's
put these ads out to help let soldiers know they're
not alone, that there is people out there that can
help and try to prevent those from that from that

(52:38):
happening and making them another statistics.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
That's cool, man.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
So are you going to plan and keeping it up
in the northeastern Middleland in the Northeast.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
I think we're going to do it.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Definitely a d C trip, you know, and uh try
to bring some members of Congress on board, educate them,
and uh hopefully.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
We got to get Trump, man, we got to get
Trump on there. I'm sorry, we got to get Trump
on there. We got to get the president on there.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
In fact, uh, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Truman and a few
other used to go on a crash boat down in
Key West and uh you used to go fishing from it.
So it's been you know, the crash boats have been
you know, basically the presidential yacht at times, and we could.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Get it all the way here to have Trump.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
We could get it all the way into the Potomac, right.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Right there in the Potomac.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, so right outside what like Lincoln Memorial or something
like that, right.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Not Lincoln Memorial Gallo there, but we would probably be
somewhere near the Pentagon Fort McNair, uh, somewhere around that area.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, because I would imagine the debt.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
We like to try to keep six feet. I mean,
she's got a four and a half foot draft, but
I always try to keep a six foot rule. Yeah,
I I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, especially being out of wood.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
Right, that's absolutely because nothing's cheap these days, and everything's
gone up in price. It's not you know this this
boat has been a major project and uh cost me
financially quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
So well, let's get let's make it happen, man.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
You know, I'll you know, I'll talk to Sab and
some of the other guys and and hopefully we can
we can make that happen one way or another. I'm
pretty sure he would probably love to jump on that boat. Uh,
knowing the president, you know, he loves that ship.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
So man about the history and and the service, because
everyone goes, what's what's a crash boat? You know, and
take take for example. I mean, you know the tragedy
has just recently occurred with the helicopter and the airplane
and the Potomac.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
You know, this is the thing. This boat would have
gone out.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
And try to help and rescue, uh and provide, you know,
get survivors off those things and you know, handle wreckage
and so forth.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
That's what it was designed for. Cool man that mission today.
But you know it could dude.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
We could have we could have the president on there
and then and then once he gets off, we go
hit the George Hunt Harbor and go party. It's like khoya,
fuck it, right, So that would be a lot of fun. Hey,
changing gears. Yes, you're very close to the defense industry,
military all that shit. You've played around with it. You

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know a lot of people, you've had high clearance, You've
been proving to a lot of conversations. I'm not going
to make you break any of that confidentiality, but there's
a lot of shady shit going on, and it's really
good to see Elon.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Popping that.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
David once you put on his tweet real quick, and
then I'm gonna go into something else. So go down
expand on that, you know, because you can see Fetterman's
tweet below. Yeah, so Fetterman says, you know, I want
to say billions of your money and make our government
more efficient, and it says rummaging through your personal shit?

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Is not that? A party of chaos lose as always, right, So.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
I go back up and and look at Elon's response,
which is hilarious. He goes, Brah, if I wanted the
rummage through random personal shit, I could have done that
at PayPal.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Hello.

Speaker 9 (56:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Having tens of millions.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Of people marked as far as security as alive right
when they're definitely dead is a huge problem. Obviously, some
of these people would have been alive before America existed
as a country. Think about that for a second. I mean, dude, dude,
it's insane. I mean, anyways, I'll suck there, but David,

(56:31):
you can take that off.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
But I mean, look at that.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Somebody's three hundred and fucking sixty years old. Get the
fuck out of here. So he's uncovering all this waist
spending and all this shit we've always known that. We've
talked about that as you know, strict fiscal conservatives, right,
We've always talked about the wasting government and the bullshit
and the fucking Rhinos being you know, complicit on this crap.

(56:58):
You know, the Democrats and the fucking Republicans say fucking garbage.
You know, they're just fucking all about you know, building
wealth and building power for themselves, and they don't give
a fuck. We've talked about, you know, the cheating in elections,
especially twenty twenty. We've talked about a lot of different things.
I've had several guests talk about the deep state. There's

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an office that a lot of people want to sidestep,
and nobody wants to talk about directly.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I don't know if you're willing to. We don't have to.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
But it's the office and that assessment we saw during
the Russian collusion. Peter Stroke was going in there, I
think to take his marching orders. Senator Grassley brought it
up in his papers and his findings. What the fuck
is going on with that office? Why is that so dangerous?
And you know we hooked at Elon Musk when he
goes into the Pentagon. You know, that shit's gonna go

(57:50):
down once he goes into the Pentagon. One stage goes
into the Pentagon. I think that office is fucked.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
I mean I hope so, I mean, you know, I
will just say, you know, Andy Marshall was. He's a guy,
great guy, very intelligent. The question is is you got
to look back at what the origins of the office,
why it was created, and many have forgotten what that
reason was because it was so long ago under Richard Nixon,

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and it was to deal with the military industrial complex.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Okay, to put it in chock.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
To explain that, explain that to layman.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Meaning we're going to try to make sure that we
don't get ourselves involved in conflicts that are made up,
you know, and essentially brought into other big wars when
it's not necessary, when we could have done other things
to avoid it.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Then it got derailed.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Yeah, and I don't know, I mean, you know, you
think about this for a second. Any Marshall, you know,
basically was a point into that position back under Richard Nixon.
He didn't resign until in Barack Obama's i think first

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term in all. Okay, so he served in the Pentagon,
in that office and people will go, well, you know
what does that mean? You know what is this office?
We'll go look it up in an ORG chart. You know,
if you go back in the time and you look
up some of the ORG charts, it sat all by
itself over to the side or to the right of

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the Secretary of Defense.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
So it's still under the Secretary of Defense, or it's
at the same level, the same level, so reports for
the president, not the secretary, non sective.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
That's the next thing is you get into he advises
the president if he chooses to. I mean, because I'll
go back to what we had under Donald Trump, clearly,
and with all the things that have been publicly outed
that clearly, I don't think Obama, who picked the next

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replacement lifetime appointment for that position.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Was probably so that guy needs to mean, I think
you froze. Let's see if he comes back. He's frozen
for a second, and he's back. He's back, Well, hold on,
your image is frozen. There you go, you're back.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Sorry, I say.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Most people don't realize that Obama appointed the next lifetime
appointment to that office. So it's a lifetime appointment.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
And Obama guy and Obama guy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
No figure yeah, so this guy could serve for another
ten presidents or whatever, who knows, maybe when he's ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
I mean I think Andy retired at ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Holy shit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
So and he's got a library or museum dedicated to
him in his service, is that right? Yes, you can
find it Andy Marshall's library. So on policy, he was
highly respected. I mean, this was somebody that was like
a president if you if you do enough research on it,
and you say, wait a minute, foreign leaders, foreign you know, people, insire,

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the military, d O, d intel got all of them.
All were like sad to hear when he passed away.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
So that assessment has been involved in shady shit too,
Rightli North? Oli North was in that assessment.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Right, I'll just say the public stuff is you essentially
look at the public Yeah, where did Oliver North work? Kay?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
And then if you look at Iran contrast, then you
then you go into deeper. Right, I'll take into the
fucking weeds a little bit because I'm gonna have uh,
I'm gonna have this next person, you know, as a guest,
which is Hector bres He's a former Special Agent DA
who was was you know, let Leed Project legenda, which

(01:01:53):
was the investigation of the kidnapping, torture and murder of
d A special agent Kiki come out in by Blagua
Hada Cartel and you know, the whole findings that Hector
brings up is that that was actually and I'm gonna
have him talk about this because he talks about it
if you go to Prime Video and you can find

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it as the last an arc.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
It's a short mini series.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I think it's like four or five episodes, and he
talks about how the CIA gave up Geeky for arms
on the whole rank contra and who is a rank contra?
That was fucking Oli North? And Oli North was in
that assessment. I mean, dude, it is all fucked up
all over the place, right right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I mean, I guess some some credit.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
I mean on nine to eleven, the planning to get
all those airplanes to land immediately as quickly as possible,
that originates with Oliver North. And I believe that assessment
that's been covered on the History Channel publicly, so I'm
not giving up any secrets.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
So they do good shit, right, Yeah, But.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
I think if it was me and I was, you know,
advising Elon or the Trump, I would say, I would
go there first.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
How do you how do you lock that down?

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
I mean, they could be right now erasing hard drives
and moving ships.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
Were already reorganizing it, because that's what you do, is
you do a reorg and then you can basically break
it up and put it over here and spread it
out and then.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
No, no, I'm talking about the people.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
The people out in that assessment right now already know
that they're coming to the Pentagon, so they could have
already made pre emptive moves.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Well, do they exist even on an ORG chart? I mean,
I don't know. I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
It's a question of you know, no one's brought it up,
no one's talking about it. The only time you ever
heard it kind of brought up and mentioned was Senator
Grassley who figured out that the check that was for
Papadopolis that came from the government originates back to that assessment.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
And that's that's that's insane, right, So that assessment cuts
a check to go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Bribe or corrupt or compromise.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Go to Papadopolis so that he could use it to
buy intel on Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Right, the premise, right, but you know, the compromise money.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
We didn't tell you what to spend it on, but
we're giving you this money. And fortunately for Papadopolis, he
took that money and gave it to his attorneys in
Italy to put it in their escrow, so he had
attorney client privilege.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
And uh, and then we see that Peter Schroke was
going to the office in that assessment on a regular base.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I think it was like a couple of nimes a
week or something.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Right, you know, who knows, But I mean he was
going to the Pentagon. I'm sure he was visiting some office.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
So what is what is the counter espionage guy at
the FBI doing, you know, at that assessment pushing this
fake bullshit rush and hoax.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I mean, dude, it's it's fucking discussed.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
Well, you gotta you gotta look at Peter stroke and
you've got to look at all the things that he
was involved with. And you've had it on your show already.
You know where you go to overstock dot com. Okay,
his name, you know somebody?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
What was he doing?

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Why why is he running all these syop operations okay
against Americans? Yeah, So, and and it's looking like more
like political enemies list.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Well, that's exactly what it was. I mean, you know Peter,
Peter talked about that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
That's where I hope for our country.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Yeah, so it can heal that we can clean this up,
put some safeguards in so this doesn't happen again, and
somebody looks at the bigger picture of this, and I
think Elon Musk is somebody can do that. You know,
he's built many companies and he's a lot smarter than
me and you. So I would hope that all this

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will get put in because it all somehow the dots mad.
You know, you're not going to have a treasure man
say oh it all leads back to this. It's many
people with probably different interests that want to have power,
money and control and greed is why they've done all this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Well, Peter burn right, who you were talking about, the
the founder and CEO of overstock dot com. He he
talks about how he got pulled in, you know, by
the bureau you know too, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Know, which usually happens when you're in business you travel
a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
You know, sometimes you get tapped on the shoulder and say, hey,
you know, have you see anything or hear anything, or
we know that you have some close relationships with these people,
a can you whisper something in their ear, you know?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Or can you deliver this message?

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I mean, it's happened to everybody, you know, no different
with them, but he got really involved, and you know,
we had him on the podcast, you know, I don't
know back in I think it was November, one of
the one of the initial podcasts three months ago, and
he talks about how this group, you know, started pulling
them in more and more and more and more to

(01:07:02):
the point where they wanted him to set up an
eighteen million dollar bribe of Hillary Clinton from a specific country,
and you know how he set it up, where it happened,
how it happened, all that, and then later he found
out why because you know, they suspect that she was
gonna win. It had been green lighted and approved by
President Obama because he wanted to hold these chips over

(01:07:23):
her head so he could control her. And then you know,
when she lost all of a sudden, they said, fuck,
we need to weaponize this against Trump. And that's when
they started the other investigation. I can't remember what the
hell was called Operation whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
There needs to be real investigations into a whole lot
of issues, like, you know, why did we take out Kadafi?

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Now? Why were we arming ISIS in Syria? Why were
we doing? You know, I think I shared with you.
I know you're a gun guy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
You know when you started seeing photos of ISIS with
FS two thousands, okay, and I pointed that out to you.
I said, look, there's only one military that has f
S two thousands in massive inventory, and that was Libya.
It's amazing how we're now, you know, Libya has defeated
Kadaffi and the arms caches have become available, and somehow

(01:08:19):
we're going in and we're collecting some of this stuff
and it's now showing up over on the battlefield in
ISIS in Syria. That quickly, you know, obviously there's there's
a connection there. I don't know what it all is,
but somebody should basically do a real investigation.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Do you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Think find it out? Do you think dog should find
it out? Or are they going to are they going
to be able to cover it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
I think those is more of the accounting side.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
You're going to need something else to figure out why
were we doing these policies, Why were we doing Why
was the CIA or the FBI or in you know,
military intelligence, whoever doing all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Well, look, I think Ratliff that well was in.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
The best interest of our country and it was so
do this or this or that. But it seems like
it's all reckless and out of control.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Obviously, Yeah, but I think Radcliffe at CIA is the
right guy. I think Cash it looks like we got
the vote, so he's gonna get there from I have.

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
Full hope and Cash and all of these guys that
they will actually get basically special prosecutors to go look
at all of this stuff and see was this really
about financial gain for some people and people in those
parties or was this actually for America's best interest?

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Well, I mean, look, I think what Doja's doing is
uncovering the spend, the corruption, the fraud. But when you
uncover that, right, So they found out there's four point
seven trillion dollars out of the treasury that's unaccounted for,
not coded, so we don't know who the fuck it
went to. When he goes into the Pentagon, he's gonna
find out there's a whole fuck ton of money that's

(01:09:58):
going somewhere nobody worth, nobody knows where it is that that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Could be that assessment. That could be that assessment, right, that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
Could be because he could be going into the US Army.
He could be auditing the Navy, he could be edited
auditing the Air Force, he could be auditing whoever. All
those agencies except for that believe the Marine Corps is
have all failed audits. But I also want to you know,
I was good friends with I'm still good friends with
the guy who is a former weapons tester for the

(01:10:27):
Pentagon Top Weapons Test. And people go, oh, they paid
eight hundred dollars for hammers. What they don't understand sometimes
is or the you know, ten thousand dollars toilet seat,
would you? And I want to make sure, like Elon
needs to be careful when they hear that they see
that maybe understanding what is that item, because then you

(01:10:50):
get pulled into a trap because that eight hundred dollars hammer,
well it is a specialized eight hundred dollars hammer. Why
because they needed a hammer that can make sure doesn't
spark because it's used in a hydrogen environment or something. Okay,
they have these types of special tools that they have
to have that are very expensive because they're not you

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don't make that many of them and they're not often
The ten thousand dollars toilet seed or whatever that was
for an EP three spyplane because they wanted to give
some crew comfort to the pilots and the crew to
go to the bathroom because of all that sensitive equipment
on board.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Putting a bathroom on board was not an easy task.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
So I forget who it was at the time to
mix that plane, but they had to put the toilet
in a way so that it didn't interfere with any
of the sensitive.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Electronics on board. Hence the ten thousand dollars toilet seed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Oh and then when they got killed after that, because
it was so expensive, they put it out to bid
and it was like three.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Times the cost to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
So they got to be careful these rabbit holes that
they go down, and that they don't realize that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Okay, there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
Justification for this, but I think Elon is smart enough
to know that because he's in the rocket industry. Hey,
we produce this stuff, and we had these things where
if you look it on paper, hey we're producing a
screwdriver that costs, you know, fifteen thousand dollars. Why, well,
it's a specialized screwdriver that deals with this type of metal,
you know, whatever it could be. So as an example,

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so I think you still got the best guy to
do the job. It's just I hope that they're a
little more tight lip and factfinding of what this is
if it is truly you know, hey, we just bought
you know, eight hundred dollars hammer and at home depot
at retails for fifteen ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Yeah, we bought a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
This happened also with like, you know, guys who were
in the military to providing services to supply and maintain tanks,
and they were going to Radio Shack to buy the
parts themselves just because they wanted to get the job
done and get the thing back.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
In order and functioning. Well, they got reprimanded for that.
You can't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
You got to buy the same part because there's a
company that's backing that part to warranty that thing for
that vehicle. And that's what needs to get looked at
across the board to say, well, wait a minute, is
that out of Is it too ridiculous when we can
buy the same thing for fifteen cents at radio Shack
and you want to charge me three hundred dollars for

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that same thing. So again across the board review, you know,
we the word is cots. They love to throw that term.
The GPV is commercial off the shelf technology. It's caterpillar,
it's this, it's that. But it's done in a way that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
The cut some built is going to support it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Yeah, it's custom built. Right. So here's the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
I guess you know, when when you look at everything,
it's amazing. You know, they did they did this, you know,
comparison or this chart and they said, you know, how
many American support you know, doge like eighty seven percent,
you know, or ninety percent or whatever the hell it was.
You know, it was like eighty seven percent, you know, Republicans,

(01:14:11):
thirteen percent, Democrats, right or or no, it was country.
It was eighty ten percent of the country supports that,
thirteen percent has opposed it. Yet the Democratic Party is
in opposition. How many people support this eighty something percent
versus the other and the Democrats are on this really
small side of the argument.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Well, it's not that they're against doing the audit. I
don't think I think they are against who's doing the audit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Well, what I'm what I'm I'm gonna get to is
the following is that they're against it because.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
They're It's not they're crooks doing the audit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
It ends it because they're against it because dude, they're
corrupt and they've been stealing for fucking decades.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
You know the list had just said that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I don't know, mister producer, if you have that list
that Elon tweeted the other day. But he makes a
list of you know, all the members of Congress what
their net worth is and what their base salary is.
And you look at people like Nancy Pelosi and Schumer
and you know that fucking dick what's his name shift
and you know everybody else. You know how they've boomed

(01:15:18):
their Corey Booker, Corey Booker's not worth. And now he's saying,
oh no, no, I got paid for giving speeches. You're
not allowed to do that. That's against Senate rules, right,
So there seems to be a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
He can do all the speeches he wants, right, absolutely, But.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
You know, dude, it's you know, the uncovering all this
is an uncovered mass mass corruption. How it went out
one side and came back to the other side. And
people have been talking about this for a long time, right,
with the whole Ukraine shit, the amount of money that
was going to Ukraine, with the money that was going
to Ukraine and coming back to the DNC right and
the Democrats. So I don't know, Bro, I mean, I

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think it's going to be a shit show. I just
hope people end up in prison. You know, that would
be a very good example.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
We've talked privately.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
I mean, I would welcome Trump going in and doing
the State of the Union in March and do it
like Saddam and have a nice cigar and just start.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Calling out names.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
Damn body's sending an agents to arrest these people. Yeah,
I think it would be beautiful because we know that the
corruption's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Can you see that? Ted? Can you expand that a
little bit?

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
Dad? I'm like, they're going to give them a fair trial,
they get the right to defend themselves and their actions.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Can you see that?

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Nancy Pelosi's annual salary two hundred and twenty three thousand
net worth two hundred and two million. Mitch McConnell cocaine, Mitch,
that fucking son of a bitch. He should be in
a fucking nursing home. Annual salary two hundred thousand, networth
ninety five million, Chuck Schumer annual salary to two hundred and
ten that worth seventy five million. Elizabeth Warren annual salary

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two hundred and eighty five thousand. How is she making
more than the House and the Senate leader?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
That's weird?

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Net worth sixty seven million dollars and there's a huge,
huge list.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
Maybe she's taking staff money, you know, she's taking a
salary from a staffer.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
There's got to be something. But that's strange.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
In that position. We'll just pocket to me, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:17:13):
But it's Here's the thing. What we're seeing, though, is
we've got a massive breakdown. You know, We've got inspector
generals that don't seem to be doing their job.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
There's so much rampant corruption we've got.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
This is what I don't think the American people really
understand are gross because they I always tell friends, I'm like,
you really need to spend one day, take it off work,
go down to DC and meet with your congressman. You're
not going to get to meet with them, but you
get to walk the halls and you get to see
what the halls are filled.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
With.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
It's not average citizens. It's all lobbyists.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
And when you get inside there, they're going to be like, oh,
you're a constituent. Okay, well they're not here, but you
can meet with one of the staff and they're polite,
and but you're going to see it's all about meetings
with lobbyist.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
And it's not the American people. It's every group there is.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
It's beating on them to make them write legislation to
favor their cause.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Right, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
And it's crazy, bro, It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
I mean, we have Coressional Budget Office, we have the GAO,
we have all these agencies that basically write up thousands
and thousands of reports for nothing. It's only there to
be cherry picked to favor somebody's agenda. It's not to say, well,
we found this is all wrong and we need to
fix this and we're going to execute this.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
That's not what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
So term limits, right, we've been talking about term limits
for decades. Do you think Trump will be able to
get a pass?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
I doubt it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
I don't think Congress would ever pass term limits against themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
I think you'll have your biggest problem in the Senate.
I don't think the Senate on the Republican Rhino side
will look for it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Well right right, the rhinos will never do.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
You're going to have those that are gonna say I
ain't giving up this, and whether it's a senator that
says twelve years is not enough, I need a lifetime.
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Again, people have forgotten and you know, the voters.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
We need just better choices of who we're voting for
and better candidates, you know, because there's just so many
bad people that get into politics now and we're seeing
that at the local levels, you know, in our states
and cities, and they're bankrupting everything. Yeah, and it's because
they have no managerial experience, they have no idea what

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they're doing, and it's creating a huge mess.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Yeah, it's the government.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
Just like the federal side, just like, oh, we'll just
give you more money. Well, that'll fix it. We'll just
throw money at it. That's a fix. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
And you know, look, twenty twenty two is I mean,
twenty six is gonna be tough. You know, does he retain,
does he expand does he lose expand?

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
I think I think right now with what the Democrats
have done, you know, in their party. They've they've almost
committed suicide. I think Fetterman gets it, and he and
and look, Fetterman's somebody who's suffered a stroke. He's not
he's a liberal progressive, but he gets it, he sees it.
He's like, no, these are things you don't want to

(01:20:22):
fight over, and you better get on their bandwagon, because
that's what most of the American people agree with, you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Know, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
You know, there's some people that believe that that Satan's dead.
You know, I don't think so. I think he's he's
he's going to be the candidate for for for the UH,
for the Democrats in twenty twenty eight. I'm talking about
Gavin Newsom. You know, it's probably gonna be between him

(01:20:51):
and the governor Whitman, h Whitmer. People are like, no,
he's dad. California as a shithole. I don't think people
really give a shit about being a ship hole. You
look at the majority of people in the United States
are not really politically savvy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
They don't follow the news.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
You look at women specifically, not the bust on women,
but the majority of women do not follow and engage
in news and politics. Deep to understand it and they're
gonna look at this guy. Super articulate, very good look
and attractive guy. We saw it, you know, in this
mock that the media was trying to push that Desantas

(01:21:26):
knew from Canadacy.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
Question when he was at the White House and Biden
was out there, he with his jacket off, trying to
make itself look like he's uh you JFK or whatever exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
You know, Oh, look at him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
I still think he's dangerous. Dude. I don't know why
everybody is discounting this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
The question is is.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
He's got a few He's got obviously a few problems.
One is his railway that the funding and where it went.
He's also got the homeless funding that has disappeared. Where
did that go? He has his own house that was
gifted to him for whatever it was, three million dollar house,
you know, like there's no favors involved in that. I mean,
somebody just gives you a house and you get three million,

(01:22:07):
and then you can take a loan against the house
and borrow against the equity of it and do that
for what you want. I mean, there's enough I think
that it should spark just an investigation, not to just
say hey, we want to do targeted attack.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
No, there's there's something wrong here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
I mean, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
We can't see idle on our side and just led
him right, you know, and then and then bring all
this up, bring all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
This up at the election. Somebody needs to investigate this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
I personally think he needs to be fucking, you know,
slaughtered now now when he's done.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
You know, I don't agree with the Trump administration and
and and Pamboni dropping charges against Eric Adams in New York. Yeah,
clearly unless they have something that says, oh, he's exonerated.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
Yeah, and here's why they.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
I haven't seen that document yet, but I mean, he
was involved in some type of campaign fraud with his staff.
And that was a singer I forget her name who
did the music.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Video that figured it all out.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
You know, it's actually she didn't figure it out, but
she started it. That created the problem where the Catholic
Church was looking at this this church thing. Why is
I think it was twenty million dollars being funneled over here?

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
You know about this?

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
No, No, I haven't followed that story at all.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
So I think her name is Christina Carpenter and she
was at the award show when she won an award
and she says, well, I'm also credited with taking down
the mayor of New York, you know, for some type
of campaign fraud.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
What it was she.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
Did a music video at a church in New York
that she got authorization from this one preacher who essentially said, yeah,
you can do it here and you can give me
this kickback of whatever it was one hundred grand or
something and you can film your thing here. Well, she
did her music video there and it was very sexual.

(01:23:58):
It made over ten million hits or whatever on YouTube,
and the Catholic Church guard of getting inquiries into you
realize you let your you know, this church be used
this way. Well, those upper management in the church upset
came down on that preacher saying.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
What did you do? Why did you allow this?

Speaker 5 (01:24:17):
And they started looking into his finances of how he's
running his church, and they discovered this I think it
was twenty million that was going somewhere to another firm,
and they're like, what is this.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
We don't want to get wrapped up in this, So.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
They reported it to the FBI or the FEDS, and
they investigated it and it turned out to be some
type of campaign financing scheme.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Holyhe And yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
There's videos out there you can find it. But I mean,
and I'm in the short version, but you know, I'm
like that all needs to be really looked at and
carefully to say, hey, what's going on here? And if
he can be exonerated, great, I'm happy to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
What do you think is going to happen?

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
There's a lot of rumors going around about judges and
seeing that all these preemptive pardons by Biden, you know,
shouldn't be allowed or unconstitutional, go beyond the realm or
the the actual pardon and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
You think that's gonna have any legs or it's just
a bunch of noise and bullshit.

Speaker 5 (01:25:17):
Well, the only thing I'll say to that is the
her report, which is nobody's talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
That and having the audio released.

Speaker 5 (01:25:25):
Yeah, I wish somebody would say, hey, Pam BONDI, now
that you're there, can you release the her recordings?

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Well, I know Tom is trying to get right, Trim
is trying to get Tom is trying to get get
that uh fre Freedom of Information actor with the FO.

Speaker 5 (01:25:39):
Yeah, because to me, then the American people can see
just how bad Joe Biden was mental decline and then
cover up of the mainstream media and the Democrat Party
about his mental acuity.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
And by the way, the media should lose their fucking
licenses from the fccent.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Because they covered this up.

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
Yeah, okay, we've heard the other side, mainstream media MSNBC
mostly scream and even CNN scream that, you know, Trump,
his mental acuity is not there.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
Can he be trusted, you know with the nuclear button?

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
No? Literally, we had weekend in Bernie's. I mean the
man literally was two years on vacation during his presidency.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Yeah, yeah, this is insane.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
And he was weekend of Bernie's. Dude, I mean we
called that back in twenty twenty. He was hiding in
his basement I think like eighty something percent of the time.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
Right during the first I mean the campaign, it was like,
are you kidding me? There was so much it was
so disingenuous to the American people that, you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Know, dude, he couldn't get ten he couldn't get ten
reporters to a press conference.

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
No, this isn't just as bad as the whole COVID
thing and Anthony Fauci, because as you know, we were
together on that with a business that we did together.
And I told you early on when we first met,
I believe, well, actually right after we met, I said,
I knew back in December from friends that something was
going on, discovered that this COVID thing was manufactured.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Well, I told you my CIA buddy of mine told
me in either March or April that this came out
of a fucking lab Leaku.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
Yeah, I had friends that said they knew what came
out of Wuhan. But let me give you this sopistic
They were saying, this was this was engineer because it
had HIV in it. I had that all the way
back prior to the lockdowns and everything else in December.
So if we knew that, then officially, how the hell

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did we go through this whole lot? I mean, who's
running everything?

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
It was political, dude. It was to fucking lock everybody
down and pushing mill in dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
People lost their jobs, people lost their businesses, restaurants closed.
Got I knew people who had opened up restaurants just
then to have it closed and go bank.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
It destroyed them.

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
And where are those tiers from the Democrat Party or anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Yeah, dude, I mean I know somebody personally that that
that had bought a restaurant that fall fall of twenty
nineteen and COVID hit, and dude, he was bankrupt, lost
his fucking house, lost his business, lost the investment, lost
fucking everything, dude, and you know it's taken him years
to come back, years to come back.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
I mean, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:28:29):
I mean, I mentioned I had a friend who died
in October and he lives down in Atlanta, and this
is I kind of knew the COVID thing was starting
to pop up because I read international news and I'm
watching this and I'm like, okay, and my friend passed
away and they said he died of pneumonia.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
And I'm like, this guy was mister.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Healthy, I mean, and he goes to the gym physically fit, competed,
and I'm you know, he's former DD and I'm like,
this doesn't make any sense. I mean, he just you're
telling me he went back and forth to the hospital
multiple times, and he dies of pneumonia and he was
violently sick. No, I think he died at COVID because

(01:29:14):
he did travel and he went over to Asia. So
I'm just like, okay, I think and I told his wife,
I said, I you know, I'm not buying this. I
think this is COVID. Could you prove it?

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
Because then every death later when they said, oh, these
are all COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Deaths, right right, Yeah, I think I got COVID very early.
I think I got COVID in March. I think before
the lockdowns. So you remember, you know, I launched a
TV show early in January twenty nineteen and four weeks
and became a no War one show on Sundays and
seven it was another more show on the network. Financed
that show for five months, and then said, you know what,
fuck this, I'm gonna go do myself. Created is over

(01:29:53):
the top stuff, and then started playing around DC, different studios,
production groups, et cetera. And we launched Battleground from Form
and then a Spanish show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
And we're doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
So we were shooting three shows once a week in
airing them on Sundays, and you know, I got sick.
A whole bunch of people got sick, and we were
sick for like fucking three weeks, dude, and we're like, motherfucker,
you know, I think we got COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
We would like kid around. I think we got cold.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
We had like these big jars of fucking you know
whatever it's called, that disinfecting crap, you know in the
studios everywhere, and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Uh, you know, but we didn't die. I mean, you know,
we were fucking healthy people.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
You know, people that died had like all these kind
of health issues and complications and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
But but you get back to the lie of you know, ivermectin,
hydrochloric wan, all of these things that we're in the
reports from the military.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
And I always brought up to you, I'm like, why
is it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
We're not hearing from Fort Dietrich, Yeah, our military facility
that deals with you know, kind of viruses like this,
And I'm like, it's like they're silent.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Why why do you think I just to me, I
had a.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
Lot of question.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
I just hope that also gets investigated and not you
need almost like a nine to eleven commission, but not
have it be corrupt that investigates all this nonsense to say,
where is all the failures and breakdowns occurring in addition
to what DOJI is doing? Because there's something massively wrong
when they can lie about it, lie about it, lie

(01:31:25):
about it, and be so wrong, right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Dude, I think there was. It was totally corrupt.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
These were the answers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
It was fucking corrupt the ship, dude. That's that's that's
the reality of what happened. It was corrupt the ship.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
It was staged put us into a massive deficit.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
I mean, was this done intentionally to basically hurt America financat?

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Yeah, dude, I think it was. And you heard and
you hit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
You heard Trump talk about it, right, he said, Hey,
you know what, these motherfuckers did this shit. We're gonna
fucking send them a bill. We're gonna have China pay
for this. And then all of a sudden, he got
weaponized with the media and everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
To you know, stay home, lock down. We can't fucking
have elections.

Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
You attack China, you know, the mainstream media starts attacking back,
and it's like, Okay, what side are you guys on?

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
Are you sure you're a United States news network? I
mean it's hard to say that. You have to be one.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
Agreeable to everything the president says, but it's sort of
like we don't have a real checks and balance.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
It's everything they use that ship dude, to lock everything
down long, you know, to lock everything down and to
force that mail in ballot crap, because that's how they cheated,
that's how they wont Nobody in the right fucking mind, hey, Ted,
Nobody in the right fucking mind unless you're a fucking
lunatic moonbat and highly under the influence of some kind

(01:32:50):
of fucking benzobe, barbituate or fucking illicit drug, can believe
that that fucking walking dead zombie got eighty one million vote.
That's impossible. That's an impossibility. Nobody can believe that the
amount of fucking excitement, draw enthusiasm, everything that they were

(01:33:10):
talking about just election.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
And that's where I hope with the Dose team that
they're going to dig back far enough because we know
that obviously was it USAA money to create it, to
go to NGOs to get out the vote campaigns to
register that eighty one million to get them to vote,

(01:33:32):
and we know and and are they even legit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
It?

Speaker 5 (01:33:37):
You know, again, another group that has to go out
and look at this carefully and investigate it and see
if this is the case. We had a nine to
eleven commission. You know, I always had a friend who
was on that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
And uh, you know, there was always the what they.

Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
Recommended, and one of the big recommendations was, well, we
need to stop handing out driver's license to illegals. Yeah, oh, no,
common sense because the hijackers were able to do what
they were doing in the United States because they had
driver's license, could show the driver's license to get into
flight school to learn how to you know, take off

(01:34:13):
and uh, you know, fly a little bit. And it's like,
we have yet to see anybody do anything to stop that.
It's we're gonna make a million excuses and we're not
going to do those recommendations.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Yeah, Elon Moskin. You know when you go back to
that last post that we pulled up on how many
people were over three hundred years old or whatever, you know,
In Hisoretti goes, if you can, if you think this
is bad, you should see what we've discovered on the
Pennsylvania voter rules, and he guesses out to how many
one hundred year olds are actively registered to vote NPA

(01:34:47):
or how many people are registered to vote in the
eighteen hundreds. Yeah, that's fucked up a shit, dude. So
I think he's gonna uncover a lot of crap. Look,
you know, is.

Speaker 5 (01:34:59):
It's uncover bring it, But we don't want it to
be like another GAO or CBO where nothing is done.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Do you think anything is going to come out of
the out of the Kennedy files at Epstein's list.

Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
Well, the Epstein list I think will have more, you know,
the things that happened. I think with JFK, we're going
to find out our government or CIA or some government
agency was involved probably and that uh you know, but
again does that change anything?

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
Not really.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
I think what we got to look at the Epstein
list is well, why was our government involved? Why were
so many corporations involved with this guy Epstein and facilitating
what he was doing. That's that's the big question, is
like who was helping this man facilitate all this? He
didn't do it all by himself. You know, there are

(01:35:52):
other actors all involved. That needs that net needs to
be thrown out, captured and looked at, and look at
that client list of people who are involved in this.
You know who was who should be charged.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
But on one second, I'm trying to remember, God, that
Jewish lawyer who was a Democrat, now you know he
supported Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
I can't remember his name.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
I still voted for Biden. I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Yeah, do you remember who I'm talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
Right? Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
What's his name? David? Do you remember his name?

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
One Cap fucking retorted right now, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
My god, I can't believe I can't remember his name.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
But anyways, he was talking about the Kennedy daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
How she was like going, it'shwitz.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Yes, So he was talking about because they're asking him,
you know, you know, why is he why why why
is he you know, defending you know, RFK Junior And
you know when obviously his you know, first cousin, you know,
the center of New York, you know, Kennedy is you know,

(01:37:15):
bashing him and calling on my a woman abuser, and
this and that and the other. And he goes into
the story and just fucking destroys her. And he goes,
first of all, you know, that's bullshit. And he goes,
you know, and and and he goes and I had
my run in with her, and he starts talking about

(01:37:37):
some stories that they're at this fucking event, and all
of a sudden, she goes and sees him, and she goes,
if I would have known, you would have been here,
I wouldn't have fucking showed up, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
And he goes, why, what the hell's wrong? What do
I do to you?

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
And she goes, you defended that fucking criminal rapist Trump
and uh and he said to her, well, this is
what he claims. He said to her, He goes, well,
I also defended your uncle Ted, you know, and you
remember him. He had a car accident, he was drunk
and he fucking killed a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
You know, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Everybody deserves a good and legal, you know, solid defense,
regardless of what it is or what they're accused of.
And you know, anyway, so he said, he went back
and forth, and her phone rang, and she got up
to take a phone call. Disappeared for about twenty minutes,
and then she came back and he said, here this
for you. You know, while she was on the phone, so

(01:38:30):
grabs the phone. He goes, yes, hello, who's this Jeffrey
Epstein And he goes, this piece of shit is accusing
you know, her cousin Trump. And she's on a fucking
twenty minute phone call with Jeffrey Epstein. Is like, you know,
the hypocrisy is is fucking ridiculous. And she and you know,
and then he one else to said, you know, she
probably forgets how much of a gem her fucking dad was,

(01:38:52):
you know, and all the scandals, not just you know, affairs,
but you know also you know Shenanigan's and he had
inside the fucking White House, you know, worse ten times
worse than Bill Clinton, you know. So you know the
reason I'm going down this rabbit hole, you know, is
because of you know, I brought up the Epstein list.
There's used to be a lot of fucking worried people

(01:39:14):
out there home. Do you think do you think it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Be as explosive as everybody expects?

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
You know, it's like, what's what's that movie where Dwayne
the Rock Johnson comes back to his town or whatever,
and uh, you know there's this corrupt sheriff and a
corrupt cause. Yeah, and you know, he gets fed up
with it, so he runs for sheriff and he becomes
the sheriff, you know, and he starts to say, all right,
now they're worried, and now they think they can intimidate

(01:39:41):
the Rock and he can't, and he and he takes
them down. I think they're they're worried that they have
lost part of their control, that they don't have enough
inside two sidetrack or you know, can fuse or kind

(01:40:02):
of lead them down different wrong rabbit holes. So they
waste time like they.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Did with Trump, and like they did with Trump in
his first term, right, he was lost.

Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
He didn't for all of the shenanigans that they put
in front of him. I mean, honestly, he was that
you know, coyote chasing the road runner, and it just
it was one thing after another, and they just kept
throwing things and well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
And the other thing is that anywhere and he surrounded
himself by all the fucking rhinos, right, right, So that
that was you know, that that was kind of problem.

Speaker 5 (01:40:30):
We know that for a fact. We know McCain was
doing what he was doing. You know, McCain was involved
in going after.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
The Tea Party conservatives.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
So there's a clear disdain for people who are conservative
from elected officials who pretend to be conservatives.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
But uh, again, we just got to get better people
elected and our team needs to be better organized. I
think Trump has done a lot of that and to
his credit, and I think hopefully this time there'll be
some accountability.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
The accountability after all of.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
This and some people going away in handcuffs, then we're
not fixing anything.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
I think everybody loses credibility at that point, right, if
you don't see people in handcuffs, Right, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:41:20):
Not that you see him at handcuffs, it's actually they
get a trial and they go through the system the
way it goes to work, and that we're going to
hold people accountable.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
For doing these types of crimes.

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
I mean, you look at Menendez and he had the
gold bar, and it's like, how long have you known
that this guy was a corrupt piece of garbage. Well,
everybody forgets his whatever it was that he had on
the island with the underage girl. They had their slush fund.
The Senate and the Congress for dealing with these types
of allegations.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Well they should expose that list, se Right, that's what
mac Gates wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
We are tax dollars to pay for it.

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
And you know, I want I want sent moral people
to be running for office, and you know, people who
can't be bought and persuaded or.

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Whatever I mean, and that's hard to find those individuals.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
I hope that they expose or release that list.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
I know, Matt, you know Gates wanted to release that
list of you know, members of Congress that you know
Congress paid, you know, to silence these accusations.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
It's it's our government's our money. They should disclose that.
Why is that a fucking secret?

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
I agree?

Speaker 5 (01:42:35):
I mean, if we're paying for it with our tax dollars,
we should know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
So talking about tax dollars, I don't know if you saw,
but they're saying that the president is thinking about issuing
every American citizen or every American taxpayer a portion of
all the money that they saved through doge.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
Yeah, I agree with that. Why are we you know,
we're taxed to death?

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
I believe that would be fucking awesome, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
Imagine getting a fucking big, fucking check that the government
had fucking sole for months.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
You know they're saying, you know, abouish a fucking income
tax to that would be fucking kick ass. You know,
DeSantis is pushing to abolish the property tax here in Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
They're saying, hey, you know what, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Yeah, it's targeting two trillion dollars in total savings.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Uh, let's see the dogs did it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
And Elon muss said though just considering sending five thousand
dollars refund checks of you sex beyers. This plan would
send seventy five million dollar households more or less four
hundred billion, which is twenty percent of those projected savings.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Wow, that's so da Hey, five K is five k?

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Why not? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Thank you, miss the producer. You know, I was hoping
it'd be like a hundred k or something.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
I mean, you know we paid more than fucking that,
and you know in taxes just in one year alone, right,
So fucking hey. Anyways, Tad dude, it's always a pleasure
to have you.

Speaker 5 (01:43:59):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
We got to make get on a regular basis and
then and chase some of these rabbit holes and and
you know what, and and talk about these things and
see where the accountability is going. I think it's gonna
be very important. I know you're whispering ship. I know
I'm whispering ship. Hopefully some of these whispers, you know,
get heard. And I'd love to find out what the

(01:44:20):
fuck happens when he goes at that Pentagon and uh
and that that office gets investigated.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. I
think it'll be very telling too. I wonder if I
wonder I wonder.

Speaker 5 (01:44:31):
If they team that are there to be honest, Yeah,
but they're they're gonna need a lot higher clearance.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
But I wonder if I wonder if that would be disclosed.
I wonder if they would disclose that, because that might
be so fucking damning.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
You know, I think it's gonna but you know what,
it all falls under President Trump as president and in
charge of the military, and that that agency falls under
the military, So he could basically say, you know what,
I want a special group to go into that one
and let's audit and figure it out. Because he already

(01:45:09):
has the ties of trying to take down his presidency
tied back to that office.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Right but heg seth can't, Right, he can't.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
I don't think he can.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
That's what I thought, because that may reports the record
of the president right at the at the pleasure of
the president.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
Right. It's it's like I said, I think I've shown
you an orange chart where it's a dotted line that
basically says this thing just kind of operates over here
by itself, and it's its own thing, but it's under
it's it's it's considered under the d D.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Yeah, I've had some people and.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
It's a lifetime appointment. And what do they do.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
Well, they come up with all types of concepts to
warfare and how to fight battles and how to do whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Well, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
I've had some people on here from the from the
you know military, you know, special forces, black ops side,
and I've had spooks and whatnot, and and you know,
they all say, well, it's not a thing tank. It's
not a thing tank. Everybody says it's a thing tank. No,
there's not a thing tank. They actually run fucking operations,

(01:46:12):
you know. So that's fucked up, right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
I mean, but you know, again it's just justification.

Speaker 5 (01:46:19):
I don't have a problem if it's got to be
a black program, it runs as long as there's some
accountability to it, and it's at the direction of somebody
being held accountable, like the president of those operations that
are being performed.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Well, you know, Jim Hansen said that, you know, he's
former special ops, right, and and he said that he
goes same thing you just said. By the way, he said, hey,
we need you know, black ops. You know, we need
these black black programs. But there's got to be accountability.
We can't have one that has no accountability and answers
to nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
You know that we can't have that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
Yeah, we've all watched Gosh, which is the h I'm
thinking the spy movie where you know, the guy is
in a covert mission and he's black ops and he's
out assassinating people.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
And then Born it's not Born is born?

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
Yeah, born supremacy. So yeah, you see this and you go, oh,
what's this groups called? And they got all these code
names and supposedly that was all run.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
Under the treadstone and whatever the fuck all.

Speaker 5 (01:47:24):
This kind of stuff, you know, But you know the
question is is does it all lead back to the
CIA or does it lead back to you know, this
agency or something, and where does it all come back to?
I just know that agency has access to everything, so
I would.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
And A reports to nobody, So jesus, you know, well.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
It doesn't specify, it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:47:48):
As you just saw Senator Grassley who tried to say, hey,
I want to audit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
You, and they gave him the bird, didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
They They laughed at it and didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
You know what's interesting, Ted, is the grass we brought
it up.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
Who do they report to They don't report to the Senate,
they don't report to Congress.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
That appears.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Yeah, but you know what, Grass, we brought it up
and it was a big fussy and then he never
brought it up again ever again, it just went away
and nobody ever mentioned it. Nobody, nobody in the media
brought it up. Nobody fucking has talked about it. Somebody's
afraid of something. Hey, Like I've always said, dude, you know,

(01:48:26):
we'll talk about this in a second, but you know,
I have more fucking weapons and ammo that it would
take a fucking assault team to fucking get into my house. Besides,
everybody in the fucking house is strapped and packed and
fucking loaded, you know, so maybe somebody fucking scared them.
I don't know, bro, But uh, how do you how
do you bring this up and then not even say, hey,

(01:48:47):
by the way I brought this up.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
I was wrong. There's nothing there. It's a nothing burger.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
But just to just not even mention it ever again,
it's kind of kind of stranger.

Speaker 5 (01:48:55):
Exactly what I said. You could have all the congressional gaos, CBO, CRN,
all these agencies that were all federal investigate this group. Okay,
come up with a whole bunch of recommendations. But if
nobody's going to take those recommendations and do anything with
them to reform it, to fix it, and to make
sure things don't happen again, that are bad again. That's bureaucracy.

(01:49:19):
And that's what we have in our federal government. It's
just so much bureaucracy. It's all about these individuals, private
agendas that seem that get accomplished.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Yeah, you know what Must Must said something that was
really uh, that was so true. Right, you said, we're
not a democracy, We're a bureaucracy, you know, and that's
why we need to clean this shit up because this
is not that's not that's not who we are.

Speaker 5 (01:49:42):
Start holding these career affected you know, lifetime appointed whatever
people accountable. Right, but when the agencies are broke or
doing things they shouldn't be doing or we're not tasked
to do. But they said, Okay, we're going to create
this little side thing over here, and we're going to
do this, but we're going to label it this with
this wonderful name, you know, like our politicians do.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
We give everything wonderful names.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Hey, you still got time, right, are you so good
with time?

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
I'm fine, Yeah, you know, like the Children's Act or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
Yeah, So if you're good, man, let's let's go down.

Speaker 4 (01:50:16):
This fucking rabbit like. Oh no, we're feeding children rat poisons.

Speaker 5 (01:50:20):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's it's whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Let's go down this rabbit hole.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
Ted, I'm gonna ask what these things are.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
I'm gonna say something and and and I know you
know this answer because I know you play in that
fucking world. You know a lot of fucking spooks like
I do, and a lot of fucking people that have
done really nasty ship out there.

Speaker 5 (01:50:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
The people that fucking give the clearance are the people
that are going to be investigated. So they're not going
to clear the guys who investigate them. That's gonna be
the problem. And im and I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
Tell you, dude, the president can issue those clearances.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Yeah, but each agency has to clear the people that
want so they can delay the clearance. The president can't
just say, hey, Ted, you have clearance tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:51:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
The president can't just do that. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:51:07):
Take someone like Elon probably who has a top secret
sci or whatever. Ye, and we need to get you
a three steps to prove. All it has to happen
is I believe President Trump can sign a little piece
of paper it says, hey, fast track him, find any
reason why not to deny him, and if there's no reasons,

(01:51:27):
make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
Right, But can the President say, hey, you know what,
I'm gonna give Ted the top fucking level secret you know,
clearance and you get it immediately. No, there's going to
be a process, he says, I'm going to give it
to Ted, but the agency has to extend it to
you and approve it and give it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
Right. That's that's going to be the challenge.

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
Right, different levels and there's different departments and agencies and
so on.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
But so that's what I'm saying. That's that's where we're
going to find a stall.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
Elon Musk is going to have a need to know.
That's why he needs this clearance because he wants to
go in and do this audit and he's going to
have to have his people clear But that agency can say, look,
we want to make sure it's investigated. You know, we
have our own group inside that does that. Well, we've
we found a conflict, you know, and we can't give

(01:52:19):
him that clearance because of this conflict, we you know,
to deal with this or we got this issue. They
could they could delay it, but essentially, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
That's what a CIA buddy of mine was telling me.
He's like, dude, at the end, you know, the president
can say, hey, you know, I wanted to have you know, clearance,
but you know the CIA has to clear you. So
they're going to delay it. They're gonna drag it out.
They're gonna bread ship, you know, on.

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
That guy every day because he's going to get nasty letters.
It says, Okay, do we need to replace you because
you're obviously not efficient at your job?

Speaker 4 (01:52:51):
You know, how long does this take?

Speaker 5 (01:52:53):
Now the guy can answer back and say, look, I
haven't had enough adequate time.

Speaker 4 (01:52:57):
I've now prioritized this.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
I'm going to look at it and we've got to
do a bunch of you know, investigating, of discussions, talks.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
It does take some time. It may take a month, yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
I mean just your basic your basic first level takes
about seven months.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
So hopefully they started this process already a month ago.

Speaker 5 (01:53:20):
And that's why he's able to say, Okay, it's been
over a month. You've you've fact checked everybody I put
on my on that answer list, and everything's come back.
You've seen my financials, you've seen this, you've seen that.
Now there's no issues. Make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
So so we talked about depending on being a big
fucking problem, and you know, we've been talking about this
for several years now, and how to clean that up.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
You know, somebody like Pete, you know, heck Seth.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
I think it is probably a good thing, But doesn't
he neither go fucking clean house and get rid of
a lot of fucking generals and colonels and and people
that are fucking part of this military complex like you
call them.

Speaker 5 (01:53:59):
Well, a friend of mine, Douglas McGregor, who wrote a
book about all that and basically reshaping our military to
streamline it more efficiently because it has gotten so bloated.
But I think we've also taken on new missions that
weren't existing during World War Two that we have that
you know, we've got a space force now that's needed.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
Okay, I think there.

Speaker 5 (01:54:23):
Should be also guys that need to deal with economic warfare.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Well, you have a buddy, you have a buddy that
I'm on the department.

Speaker 5 (01:54:32):
I think we also need a better cyber security, you know,
something that is looking at the fact that you know,
take take for our example, our electric grid. We found
out that all these you know, transformers have been purchased
that have electronics in them that can be shut that
basically either blow up or shut down the transformer.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
From China, you know, and goes we need that that
to me needs to fall under D O D.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
This gets back to so let me pause you right there.
Let me pause you right there, because that's super important.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
So that's why when I was, you know, we get
around about armageddon or you know, doomsay or not doomsay,
but if shit hits a fan, the reality of shit
heating the fan is not being invaded the reality yet
night there. Yeah, so the reality of shit hits a
fan is what people like Sean Ryan former seals a
lot of those people talk about e MPs, you know,

(01:55:24):
the loss of the grid. If we lose our grid,
we're fucked, right, So how real is that? You just
brought up exactly what Sean and plenty of other people
are talking about right now, and plenty of people that
we both know and you know in the black ops side.

Speaker 5 (01:55:38):
You know, That's my question is like, okay, so we
bought these transformers from China. Why isn't DOE, which is
the agency looking into this, doing anything about it? Or
do they just not care? It's like, oh, well, you
know it's you turn it on and it's still supplying power.
Somebody should be held accountable. They say, whoa, this shouldn't happen.

(01:55:59):
This gets back to bureaucracy, all right, that famous word.
And you know, I'll go back to the Clinton era,
you know, and one of the bigger mistakes that was
made and I'd love to see Trump maybe fossilly fix
this is who decides what we as America decides as
legal for export. It needs to be the Pentagon office

(01:56:22):
that would decide and say, okay, you know what, I
don't think selling rocket technology to China is a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
Well that was right with itar and ear Right, which
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
Commerce Department Ron Brown.

Speaker 5 (01:56:35):
Okay, the guy ended up with a bullet in his head.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
In the back of his head suicide by plane crash. Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (01:56:45):
You know, so anyway they made that switch to that
Commerce Department basically says okay, we're going to be the
deciders on what can we we allow for export out
to other countries and so forth, because it's going to
help America get cheaper goods from overseas. This is when
we allowed five access milling machines to be sold to China. Well,

(01:57:08):
that's how China has now built its industrial capability. We
are we've shot ourselves in the foot and and unnecessarily
that all needs to go back under a Department of
Defense to say, look, you know, I like Microsoft Windows,
but should America have a certain version of Windows? And
maybe some of our allies and that's it, and everybody

(01:57:30):
else gets a different version of Windows, okay, like you
know one that that can't do the type of encryption
that we need here in the States versus what we
want to give them.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
And if they want.

Speaker 5 (01:57:43):
Computer capability, they choose to use that. If they want
to develop their own, go for it, Go go get
a make your own version of Unix or whatever. Otherwise
we're using this and we're going to stay ahead. That's
how we that's how we keep our edge. And it's
like we've opened the Pandora's box. We allowed everything, we

(01:58:03):
got cheaper goods for Walmart, and our and our economy
boom for a short time. But we've seen all of
our manufacturing get sucked out and go overseas because of it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
Well, we're seeing something, you know, so going down all
kinds of you know, we're down the rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
So fuck it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
So we see that Joe Biden killed over a billion
fucking you know, or a hundred million, one hundred million chickens,
so we don't have chicken, we don't have eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
Everything's going through the fucking roof, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
I was, you know, I had a guest on the
other day who's who's overseas actually trying to solve some
of these issues, and and we were talking about it,
and he said, you know, if you look at it,
if you cut off the food supply, the.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Country goes a hell in three days. Yeah. Yeah, you know,
if you if you shot up the energy grid.

Speaker 5 (01:58:51):
Our grid failure in New York, right, you know, when
it was a I think it was the I Love
You virus or something back then that cut down and
down the power of the East Coast or whatever, and
people were wondering like, well, what if the power doesn't
come back up, when does social anarchy break out? We
actually saw that all occur in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

(01:59:12):
You saw police officers who basically said, Yep, I'm a
swarm police officer, but I'm in this Walmart stealing as
much as I can because I.

Speaker 4 (01:59:21):
Don't know when we're going to get rescued. There was
no law in order. It was vigilanta.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
It was just and and that's why you need to
have those eight by eights right, And I mean getting aside,
but you know, everybody talks about what's that window. Everybody
talks about a three day window. You know what happens
after the three days? You're kind of on your own, right,
and what do you what do you need to have.

Speaker 5 (01:59:42):
Either waiting for the government to come in and rescue you,
like with FEMA or something, or you know, when you're
not seeing it, like you know some of those people
in North Carolina, you know, and they're not seeing FEMA
for almost a week, You're thinking, we've been abandoned.

Speaker 4 (01:59:58):
We're on our own.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
Howergy grid goes down, there's no communications because not even
shortwave right, not even handheld radios, nothing would work.

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
If the grid goes down, most people who.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
Hold on you're frozen gold on, he just froze. Communicate
all right, you froze if I don't know if you
can repeat that. If the grid goes down.

Speaker 5 (02:00:20):
Oh there you go, you back, I said, if the
grid goes down, those people with shortwave radio who are
HAM radio operators probably have generators.

Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
They're going to communicate.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Okay, they're going to.

Speaker 5 (02:00:30):
Be on air, your your your radio stations are going
to broadcast and so on. They'll be on generators or
emergency power or whatever. I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:00:39):
When there was a flooding down there and I think
it was.

Speaker 5 (02:00:42):
Florida, we got contacted by actually I got contacted by
a company that refuels the cell.

Speaker 4 (02:00:48):
Towers for their generators, and they're very important.

Speaker 5 (02:00:52):
But they wanted to know, like how much fuel could
I put inside my vehicle and still float and get
it to where they needed it at the cell tower site.
And I was like, this looks too dangerous. I said,
I can't strap that to the top of it. It'll
be too top heavy. It's not going to work that way.
It'd either be something I tow behind me that has

(02:01:13):
to float and then steal wheel up and then we
could do it. But there was just you know, they
found another way to do it, and they did it
with helicopters, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
And I know there are Katrina AT and T and
Verizon the other guys. They all sent you know, what's
called cows right cell site on wheels. In order in
order to to bring comms over.

Speaker 5 (02:01:32):
From a hurricane that towers down, they got to put
another one up and have those mobile ones that they'll
erect quickly from emmergency situations. So and that gets back
to maybe FEMA having a better prepared plan to help
with all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:48):
So what's your everyday carry? What's your everyday carry? You're
a nine guy? Are you a nine milometer?

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
Guys? I know a lot of people talk about different calibers.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
I know a lot of these special ops guys and
spooks always talk about go with the nine because that
round is going to be available no.

Speaker 2 (02:02:02):
Matter where you go.

Speaker 4 (02:02:03):
I'm a forty five.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Yeah, I'm a ten mil. You know I'm a ten mil.
But you know, I don't know. I mean, nine seem
to be pretty cheap and everywhere, right, I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:02:16):
Old school, and I just you hit somebody with it,
they're not getting up.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
Yeah, same thing with a ten. I mean that's the
only thing that'll put down a line or a grizzly,
so fuck it. Oh, I need to do a shoot
him once, you know, or hit him once. Right, I
can miss, I can miss several times. But if I
hit them once, they're down. And the same thing with.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
A forty five, you're gonna fucking open a wall of them.
So you have you have some cool toys. You have
a Barrett. Yeah, I do you know? That'll split a
person in half? Right?

Speaker 4 (02:02:43):
Yeah, I actually have one of the original Barons.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
So tell us about that, because that's a fun gun.
I got to see it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:49):
Actually, I would show some of the pictures that I have,
but they're probably not suitable for work.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
When when you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
Had that photo shoot, you have some of these models
with with the with the Barrett, which was very cool.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
Yeah. That that's actually an M eight two.

Speaker 5 (02:03:06):
Was manufactured in Barrett's garage back in the day when
he was just starting out. Very low serial number. I
forget the number off the top of my head, but
it's very low. And it also has a twelve round magazine.
Oh wow, so, which is also very rare and unique

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having a twelve round because.

Speaker 4 (02:03:30):
What was used in the First Golf War for special forces.

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
Oh wow?

Speaker 4 (02:03:34):
Yeh, so I have and.

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
You have a bunch of other fun memorabilia stuff. I
don't know how much you want to share about that
or not.

Speaker 4 (02:03:42):
Yeah, I've got.

Speaker 5 (02:03:43):
My house is like a museum, So I've got just
because I met so many very interesting people over the
years and got the chance to work with them.

Speaker 4 (02:03:52):
You know, I'll highlight a few of them. You know.

Speaker 5 (02:03:55):
IRV Rifkin is an amazing individual. He's passed away since,
but he was in OSS one of our first American spies.
Go to Camp X in Canada, and before we can tell.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Us about that, what is CAMPEX? A lot of people
don't know what that is.

Speaker 5 (02:04:10):
AMPEX was a training facility for spies for the Canadian
and British in Canada, and IRV, who was in the
army US Army, was sent there to be specialized and
trained because he was going to come back with that
training and be able to train other.

Speaker 4 (02:04:30):
People back in the US.

Speaker 5 (02:04:32):
Well, he actually ended up getting put on an airplane,
sent over to Great Britain, then put on another airplane
and parachuted into Nazi occupied France.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (02:04:44):
And he started working with agents there doing sabotage missions
and intelligence gathering. And it was basically all going back
to the British and one day the US Armies like,
we haven't heard from IRV. Hey where is he Canada? Uh,
let's let's let us get back to you. And then

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they realized ERV was already in Nazi occupied France before
the US declared war with Germany.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:05:14):
So he was doing.

Speaker 5 (02:05:16):
Things, all types of clan distant missions. One of the
one of the ones I always find amazing is he literally,
uh broke into the Fewer's headquarters in France. They had
one there, Yeah, and he killed the guy to get
his armband who worked there. And uh, he went in

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as a corporal and started cleaning.

Speaker 4 (02:05:43):
He was going around emptying trash cans.

Speaker 5 (02:05:46):
And he then stole a SS safe out of one
of their offices and opened it, photographed everything, closed it up,
and then he put it back inside their facility so
they would not miss it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:06:04):
Yeah, pretty the guy, the guy was, he was, you know,
a badass and uh, you know, he talked about a
lot of the things he did, some of the missions,
and uh, you know he received I think two Bronze
stars and a few quite a few Purple Hearts for
different missions. You know, he talked about you know, one

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time he gave intelligent report saying, look, the Nazi's got
a brigade protecting this windmill, and they said, can you
draw the windmill?

Speaker 4 (02:06:34):
So he draws it, sends it over, it comes back
weeks later.

Speaker 5 (02:06:38):
Okay, we need you to immediately take that thing out immediately,
it's got to go.

Speaker 4 (02:06:44):
He's like, you gotta be kidding me. These are my orders.

Speaker 5 (02:06:47):
So him and a few guys from the French resistance
went in and he was dressed as a Nazi in uniform,
got inside and they blew it up. Everybody was killed.
He was shot twice. He was able to escape in
the woods, lying under a rotten log and laid there
for three.

Speaker 4 (02:07:06):
Days wow, and did not get found.

Speaker 5 (02:07:11):
Was bleeding, made it back to their waypoint and you know,
got his wounds healed and everything, and you.

Speaker 4 (02:07:18):
Know, he to that. He was waiting till. You know,
he didn't know what the hell this thing was. He
was pissed.

Speaker 5 (02:07:23):
He was like, we lost everybody. What the hell was
so important that we had to take this thing out immediately?
And it was a radar station because he didn't know
what the hell radar was.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
That's crazy, dude.

Speaker 4 (02:07:36):
Yeah, So he.

Speaker 5 (02:07:36):
Had a lot of very interesting stories and missions that
he did.

Speaker 4 (02:07:41):
IRV was a great guy.

Speaker 5 (02:07:42):
Created a when he got back after the war, created
a ship repair business over in the West Coast. It
was very successful, repaired navy and coast Guard, you know,
steel hauled chips and uh, you know, finally he got
admitted in the OSS Museum and uh you know, received
a big award. I forget what they call it, but

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from the OSS Society. It comes I believe from the
CIA director so for his for his part and his
missions that he did in his service. But you know,
he was a Russian jew who his parents had immigrated
from Russia during I guess the White Revolution and came
to America. So, and he was Jewish, but he spoke

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fluent German wow. And he knew Germany well so from
his family and so forth. So he played it off
very well.

Speaker 2 (02:08:35):
That's fantastic man.

Speaker 4 (02:08:36):
So his mementos that he gave me, and they're pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
And you have memorabilia like stuff. I don't know if
you can share some of the stuff that you have
in your possession.

Speaker 4 (02:08:50):
I mean I've got I've got all types of trinkets.

Speaker 5 (02:08:52):
I mean I've got an A K forty seven signed
by Kalashnikoff that was signed during the Cold War.

Speaker 4 (02:08:58):
You know, pretty cool things that, you know, all talking pieces.

Speaker 5 (02:09:01):
I have a you know you've seen it, model of
an Iowa class battleship that's fully modernized. It's pretty big.
But that was on display at the skiff at the
Rayburn building because I was doing naval gunfire and it
was on display at the Capitol. So it's a pretty
end the Pentagon.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
That's very cool man.

Speaker 4 (02:09:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:09:23):
So I have that and a few other trinkets of
things I've been involved with and done and or people
I met that, you know, felt hey, I want to
give you this. So that are very unique pieces of history,
you know, have a story to themselves.

Speaker 2 (02:09:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
Yeah, very cool man. Hey, buddy, I appreciate it. Man,
We've covered so much ground. We've had a kick ass show.
We got to do this again. We gotta we gotta
find we've got to find a day in the week
that works and we can just go a long form
and just keep on going.

Speaker 9 (02:09:52):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
I think there's you know, and you've turned me on
to some interesting people as well, then I'm going to
have on the show. So this kind of teas up
as well.

Speaker 5 (02:10:02):
Ye and yeah, definitely get involved in the economic warfare side, yep,
because that that's a that's a big, serious threat to
this country.

Speaker 2 (02:10:12):
I think that's where it ends up, man, you know,
I think that's where it ends up.

Speaker 5 (02:10:15):
But you know, I think that's not going to be
a major conflict of some sort.

Speaker 4 (02:10:18):
You know that we're thinking of.

Speaker 5 (02:10:20):
They're going to hit us in another asymmetrical way to
disable us, make us powerless, and and then you know, cripple.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
Us the grid, the grid and the food and the supplies.

Speaker 4 (02:10:32):
Well you got you got China has bought up. I
forget who the company is.

Speaker 5 (02:10:35):
It's got all the pork factories now from hogs And
it's like, you know who who who is asleep at
the wheel to let this happen.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
It's crazy, Well, who's who's the sleep of the wheel?

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
Letting China buy all this fucking farmland next a fucking military.

Speaker 5 (02:10:48):
Basis absolutely and this is all our members of Congress.

Speaker 4 (02:10:51):
And nobody wants to do their job.

Speaker 5 (02:10:54):
Nobody wants to say whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, we
got a red flag this we can't, we can't let
you do this. And it just seems like nobody does,
and it just happens, and then we bitch about it
and complain about it and go, well, nothing's done. Yeah,
that's why we can have a spy balloon fly over
us multiple times over our country.

Speaker 4 (02:11:11):
You know, and what have we done?

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
Incredible?

Speaker 1 (02:11:18):
All right, Ted, I appreciate you, buddy. Ill We'll save
it until next time and then and there will be
a next time for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:11:24):
All right, sounds good man, awesome?

Speaker 2 (02:11:26):
Take care yea.

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
All right, guys. I hope you guys had a u
a great show, a great time. So much knowledge. Ted
is Uh is one of those guys that you know,
me and him go back and we can and we
can talk for hours, you know, and if we're having
a drink, it can go for fuck for four or
five hours. So there's just so much there to talk about,

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digest and uh and pick apart, but hopefully enjoyed it.
We're gonna continue doing those and we'll see you tomorrow.

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