S2E11: Law Enforcement Fridays!!

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're up to igh going road.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Today's Friday, February twenty first Law Enforcement Fridays for those
of you they used to follow us back on Battleground.
And to make it official, we have Jeff Queen, the
co host of Law Enforcement Fridays twenty year law Enforcement
Vet all kinds of degrees, military, homeland, security, intelligence, business continuity.

(00:50):
I don't even know, bro, but you got them covered
in every single way. Welcome officially kicking off Law Enforcement
Fridays again.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Thanks having great to be here. As always, this is
good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah man, And let's let's let's start fucking with some
fireworks cash motel man.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, yeah, gonna get grown folks back in in charge
of the Department of Justice. Maybe we can put some
actual bad guys back in jail instead of weaponizing it
for for going after political opponents.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, man, this is gonna be epic. It's gonna be
fucking epic, dude. And and and I can't wait to
see Adam Shift in handcuffs, man, because that guy's a
fucking piece of shit weasel.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
What a smarmy little dude, condescending and lied to lied
to Congress, right, I mean, you know that's a that's
a felony. And he committed a felony in trying to
to you know, create and fabricate this this investigation. Uh
uh and and uh, you know, initiate the impeachment proceedings
against sitting president. I mean, what how else, how do

(01:51):
you how do you explain that other than he weaponized
it to go after the Democratic parties political opponent, chief
political dude.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
That was a coup. You remember, I always said it.
This is a fucking coup a type.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
This is you know, yeah, go over on a while
back talking about soft coups. You know, this was a
soft coup. You know, this was an attempt at a
soft coup uh to uh to uh usurp power from
a sitting president.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I mean I do.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's gonna if if nothing else happens from that standpoint,
and it's only Adam shifted, I'll fucking be so.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Happy that that that's a win. You know, that's a win.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's that's a home run, brother, that's a home run,
big time win. It would be nice to go get
the rest of the pieces of ship.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
But you know, and and let's let's let's let's remember
this now, all right, this is not you know, political payback.
This is a guy who actually committed multiple felonies. Uh,
as a sitting member of Congress who needs to go
to prison. He has tried to use his public office
for personal and political game and he needs to go

(03:00):
to prison.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
And the political gain can definitely be demonstrated, right because
he was in the house.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I was the center.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
So yeah, you know, a true piece of ship. There's
so many of them, man, the Democratic Party is full
of them right now. It was funny the other day.
I don't know, I don't think we have the clip,
but on CNN you had Van Jones, you had a carvil,
you had a whole bunch of people and they were all,

(03:31):
you know, talking, I think it was carved. And she said,
you know the problem with the Democrats that we have
no fucking men. We become, you know, the party of
no men. And you know, some some chick goes, what
do you mean we have plenty of men, and blah
blah blah. And then you know, the Republican guy goes, yeah,
like who like boota edge? And uh and she's like,

(03:53):
was that a gay bashing joke? And he goes, no,
I mean who else you have? I mean what what
men do you guys have? And it so funny because
even Van Jones said, yeah, you know, we we we've
turned into a party where we feminize our men. I mean,
who do we have that that's strong? I mean, look
at Trump seventy eight years old. He gets shot, gets

(04:13):
up and screams, fight, fight fight. Yeah, who the fuck
do we have on the Democratic Party? Does that?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
You know we're we're you won't have anybody on the
Democrats that takes a bullet and gets back up and
keep going.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Nah fucking out, dude, they're fucking arguing about about fucking
tampons and boys bathrooms and fucking trainings and.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Fucking girls bathrooms. You know, it's fucking up.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Maybe maybe maybe now you know, little boys, you know,
can can just start looking down to see what gender
they are.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Exactly exactly versus fucking trying to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
It's, uh, it's bizarre because there was this whole argument
and I saw this great fucking comeback, you know, on
as they're sitting there, you know, saying, you know, Elon's
got these twenty something year old kids, and you know,
how are they gonna have good judgment? And blah blah blah,
and somebody came back and I can't remember who was
it tweeted that out some liberal and one of these

(05:04):
liberal hacks, and somebody responded to him, and he goes right,
a twenty five year old PhD and aerospace engineering is
not smart enough, doesn't have good judgment, can't make the
right decisions. But a fucking twelve year old can make
a decision and cut off their fucking genitals.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Good.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
That's exactly right. Good one, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Now.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I mean, the hypocrisy is just off the charts. I
mean it's been bad, but now, I mean they just
keep doubling down these ridiculous they're fucking idiots that don't
matter to anybody except them.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, they're fucking retards, dude, I'm sorry, but but they
just are you know.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Real people, real issues. Nobody cares about this. They care
about making their mortgage payment, right, they care about making
their insurance payments, They care about putting food on their table, right. Yeah,
I mean, you know what was what was that we
saw the other day where you know, the dims we're
trying to talk about being at the grocery store and
they didn't even know what anything costs, had no idea

(06:05):
what anything actually costs.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's fucking insane, bro. So you know, obviously
you're still plugged in with a yell community. You know,
you have a lot of dear friends. I know you've
lost many throughout the years, you know, which is which
is pretty horrible. I was actually you know, you shared
one of them when it happened several years ago in

(06:27):
his family and all that just just horrible situation.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
How do they feel about Trump being back?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I think everybody that I know and have talked to
is just excited to try and come back, you know,
to to some sort of sense of order, right. I
mean we talked about law and order, but you've got
to have some sense of order in the universe, uh,
you know, and and and you know, getting away from

(06:57):
all of these made up you know, I guess, you know,
liberal constructs. You know, let let's let's get back to
real you know, real crime and putting real bad guys
in jail.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
But I'm pretty sure they got to feel relieved, you know,
they got to feel that they're that they're somebody's got
their back again. They're not doing this, uh, cancel the
police or defund the police bullshit, right.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, yeah, no, we're we're you know, we we I
think there's a general sense of improved morale, you know,
but you know, again, you you've got to make sure
that that your leadership is on board with that too,
because what's happened is you've got a lot of law
enforcement leaders who were uh, you know, part of that

(07:41):
liberal woke you know, wokeness, you know, places like Portland
and Seattle, yeah, you know, and and officers on the
street they they've got to feel supported. And so I
think I think there's some slight sense of of improved morale,
but we we've got to have a you know, a
change in in law enforcement leadership.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
You how do you how do you start that change?
How does that work? When the sheriff election of sheriffs
or what well, I mean yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Sheriff's elected, but you know, I mean the mayor's elected too,
and the mayor appoints the chief of police, and the
chief of police serves at the mayor's pleasure. So you know,
you've got you've got to have you know this, this
you know linear order uh that uh, you have good
police management and you have good civilian oversight. Uh. You

(08:30):
know in the municipal government now, the sheriff he can
do anything he wants because he's elected, just like the
mayor's elected. And so you know that's uh, that's a
whole other thing altogether. You know, you've seen uh uh,
I can't think of his name now, a guy down
in Broward, you know, you know, and uh you know,
so uh, you've got to have leadership that uh that's strong,

(08:53):
that's all about law and order and not about you know,
all of these you know, progressive issues, and uh that
trickles down. Yeah, you know, it trickled It trickles down
to the line guy. Because nobody's more important in your
organization than the cop on the beat.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
So I guess it must really suck to be in
law enforcement in the liberal city.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Probably, yeah, yeah, you know. Thankfully, down here in Alabama
we got you know, some pretty much. Look, we got
a da that is so pro Second Amendment down here.
If you don't have a gun, he'll find a way
the issue you want.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean, yeah, it sounds like the sheriff up in
Central fl WARDA Yeah, yeah, he says, if you know,
if you want to get shot, we're gonna shoot you.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
We're gonna shoot you.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, and we're gonna shoot you a lot, right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Why why why did you shoot him fifteen times? Because
that was all it was in the magazine, you know,
I mean we had to reload if we want to
shoot him more than fifteen.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
That's right. That was hilarious man.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And you know, and when all the riots are happening,
he's like, don't don't come over here, don't come to
our county. You come to our county, you're gonna get shot.
He goes I and you know, and not only do
we support our citizens to have a gun, we support
them to have multiple guns and know how to use them.
And if somebody break somebody breaks into your house.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
In ball Mount, yeah, you want to have the train.
If you're going to have the gun, you want to
have the training. Go get some training you find. I
don't care where you are, even in a liberal city.
If you know, if you've got a gun, you can
go find a place to get some train.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Talking about that our own our old uh, not necessarily
stomping ground because we're from Potomac.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
But in Bethesda. I don't know if you.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Saw the clips, but there is a there is a
like a brawl. You know, probably ten fifteen kids in
Bethesda right next to the CVS by Rex's house, Roy
REXA Kelly's That that neighborhood downtown Bethesda, right right like
two blocks away from BCC High School.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And it keep holes out of gun and shoots.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah. And I'm like, holy crap, dude, I mean, and
this is, you know, the bluest of bluest counties. And
I heard that all the people were going crazy and
they're talking about gun control. And I was like, book,
gun control. The kid's a minor, yeah, you know, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
But then here's the thing. You know, they'll probably try
to go after the parents.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, well the problem is this, dude, is that then
in Montgomery County. And I'm glad you know Jesse and
you know David. When we moved up there, David had
already graduated high school. We went to Catholic hence hence
the hence the mug, you know, And and Jesse ended
up graduating like us, from Churchill. But she was telling me, man,

(11:41):
it was so woke. It was so freaking liberal. They
had all these like trans and gay groups and you know,
all this uh diversity, uh and equity and bullshit training
and all this stuff, you know, and you think about it,
and you know, Ptgomery County, the public school Board, they

(12:02):
did something where they said they were gonna bus kids.
They're gonna start moving kids from you know, like let's
say Potomac and taking them them to you know, Montgomery
Village or Gaysburg or Silver Spring and grabbing kids, you know,
mixing them around because they said, you know, we need
we needed to have you know, the kids needed to have,
you know, that kind of experience.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And you know.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
That's up to the parents to decide what kind of
experience the kids are gonna have. If you move to
a neighborhood where a school is, then then that's the
neighborhood where you go and.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
THEO and that's and that's why you pay when you pay, right,
you pay what you pay because you know, there's certain
schools that are better than others.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I mean it's not that's.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
What that's why you move to those those areas is
to to get better opportunities for your kids.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, So they're trying to do this whole equity crap,
and that's what happens. You you bust in kids from
gang areas, and what the fuck is going to happen.
They're gonna fucking shoot each other, dude, You're gonna start
gang wars and fucking in the heart of fucking suburbia,
you know.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
And you know, the astounding thing is how surprised they
are when things go off the rails, right, you know,
because all the rest of us can see just a
bad idea.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Super bad, super bad idea.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
There's so many there's so many bad things that can
adds like the old you know, football thing. You know,
there's three things that can happen when you throw a
forward pass, and two of them are bad, right, same
thing when you start trying to play with these demographics
and things, and and you know, you're you're you're bringing uh,

(13:37):
you know, a group of people who uh don't have
the same kind of upbringing, the same kind of education,
the same kinds of of things, and and and they're
coming from areas that are riddled with crime. And you
suddenly think that because they they sat down in a
different school, that that uh, you know, they're gonna change

(14:02):
their behavior.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Dude. It's like, you know, dude, liberals, Democrats, they're very
very stupid people, right, I mean, that that's beyond a
proven fact at this point, right, They think that they
can go hug and kiss everybody and sink.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, like that guy.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Pearlman who went over to fucking meet with fucking Al
Kaden got his head cut off live stream, you know,
because he thought he was gonna go talk to them
and reason with him. These fucking people cannot be reasoned
with us bad people. The only way to soop a
bad person, Jeff, is how.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
A strong good person with a gun if there's a gun.
But if there's not a gun, then just somebody who
who who can stand up and say enough? And that's
what we've got back with with President Trump. Yeah right,
I mean, we we have somebody who's gonna say enough
of this ship. You know, we we we've been through
all of your bullshit. We've been through all of this

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stuff that that doesn't work. And that's the craziest thing.
None of this has worked, and they just keep doubling
down on it. Oh, we just got to do more
woke stuff. We got to do more wook stuff. We're
not doing enough woke stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, I think it's backfired. I think it's dead right
right now. I don't think it's gonna I don't think
it's gonna revive. I think these guys are gonna double
down in the midterms and give it another shot. Even
though you hear voices of reason within the Democrat Party
saying we got to get away from this messaging, you know,
but there's a big group that says, no fucking way.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
We didn't do it enough, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
And what we should have done is we should have
canceled on them, and we shouldn't have we we can't
let them speak. And you know, they're really doubling and
trippling down on this cancel culture, on this fucking you know,
repression of the First Amendment, And I think and I
think they're gonna lose their ass, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
And uh and maybe maybe then, you know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Know, something will happen, But I truly believe Jeff that
right now the Democrat Party, for the most part, is
the party of the waste of society.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, well, I mean you look at that, you know
what you're talking about and doubling down and we got
a suppress. Isn't it interesting that one of the biggest
defeats they've suffered in history is because they were trying
to suppress what is a guaranteed right. Yeah, you know,
we're not gonna let you speak. You can't speak. We

(16:18):
got a can. And you know, again, it's gone too far.
It's gone too far, and the American people are tired
of it. They're tired of being preached. And I think
what you're seeing with all of these discoveries of the
doge waste, people are gonna be even more and more sick.
They're gonna start jumping on board. Let's get rid of
these things that waste this money. Department, Education, IRS, you know,

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all of these different organizations that are doing nothing but
throwing American tax dollars away. And people are finally really
I think, waking up to that a little bit and going,
holy crap, man, was that really where my money went?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I don't know. If you saw Elon's sweet yesterdaybody said
there's fact, there's there's hard facts now that proved that
most of the money that went to Ukraine came back
to the Democrat Party, the politicians.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I'm not surprised. I mean Joe, that is, Joe Biden
was the leader of that Ukrainian pack, right of course,
you know pac K not PAC although it's both. But
you know we've seen all of his how many of
his family members are involved in you know, business deals
in Ukraine, right, and how many? How much of that

(17:40):
trickles back then? I mean again, anybody with any kind
of common sense looks at a legislature legislator and says,
all right, you're making two hundred grand a year and
you had a net worth of you know, four million
dollars when you got into office. Your two terms in
and you're worth one hundred million bucks. I'd like to
have that investment advice.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, yeah, Well, Corey Booker.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Said, you can think that anybody made honest deals, you know,
out of that kind of an investment.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Look, Corey Booker.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Came out and said, well, the reason you know I
amassed all this money is because you know, I charged
two million dollars a speech. But you know, by saying that,
but by saying that, he just he just admitted to
breaking Senate rules. Would say, you know, I don't know
if that's a crime or it's just a rule, but

(18:35):
you know, I know Senate rules say that you cannot
charge for giving speech you know as part of you
know your your you know your your office so I
don't know, bro, there's gonna be so much ship that's
gonna be uncovered on these people. And I bet there's
there's a ton on the right too.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Oh, I'm sure there are. I mean, let's let's let's
let's not you know, kid ourselves that it's everybody, you know,
get into the public offer. But you go back and
you look at you remember the old post office scam, right, yeah, scandal.
You know, we we were you know, kite and checks, right,
you know, I mean, we we've we've had all kinds

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of congressional scandals that involved both parties, you know, and
huge sums of money.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah. And I read this morning that the uncovered that
there are I can't remember, like over one hundred government
credit cards in the hands of bureaucrats with a balance
of over forty billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I'm not stray I believe that. Yeah, I'm not surprised
at all. You look at what had you know, Miller said, uh,
you know, Stephen Miller said the other day, you know,
talking about you know, we've we've created this culture. You know,
the president has the right to issue executive orders. Bureaucrats

(19:55):
do not right, right, and yet we we we've got
all of these these organsizations that are being run by
career bureaucrats that think that the buck stops with them
and that whatever their ideology is, you know, in that
organization is how things are going to be run. And
now they're outraged, you know, because President Trump is is

(20:18):
you know, slashing their jobs and saying, you know, get out,
you don't matter that much, you know. And that's that's
the thing, is that there their little their little individual
kingdoms are coming tumbling down.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah. And look, it's what's what's amazing, right, is how
they've been able to convince their sheep right that what
you know, Doge is doing is wrong.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
They're like, no, dude, these guys are bad. These are
bad people, Dude. In any normal situation, you know, if somebody,
if somebody tells you hate you know, we're investigating your
bank because we think they sow all your money, you'd
be like, fucking lutely, I want to get my money back. Yeah,
I want to know where it is. You would never

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hear somebody go no, no, no, don't investigate. I'm good with
all the money.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Somebody said, don't, I don't. I don't need that money back.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
You just take that fucking bizarre, dude. It is.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
It's nuts, it's insanity. It is to be this off
the rails because it's now again. If this was the
left that was doing this, Yeah, you know, they would
call us crazy, you know, they they they would not
not only be calling us crazy, they would try and
be trying to institutionalize all of us, you know. I mean,

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and and it's just because there's an R or a
D next to to to somebody's name who based on
the statement that they're making when all of us should
be outraged. This is not all of this money didn't
just go to waste in the last four years of
Joe Biden. It has been going on for decades, and
all of us should be pissed.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, and look, you know they and they did, they
did try and institutionalize us right up through cancel culture.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
I mean people everybody else against us.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, dude, they you know, they try to cancel everybody.
They try to shut you down. They try you know,
they investigated you, They freaking called you crazy. They you know,
even got people fired from jobs, all kinds of shit.
I mean, look, you know, I'll say this, I guess
for the first time on the air live because I've
never told this story, so I'm gonna do it right now.
And you remember, you know, when when we launched Americano Media,

(22:31):
you know, we launched on Sirious XM. You know, once
we started getting traction and started getting headlines you know
from like Newsweek and NBC and you know, Washington Post
and all these huge coverage, you know, call on us,
you know, Fox News and Spanish spot, Fox News and Spanish.
You know, on LinkedIn you can see who's looking at

(22:52):
your profile, and you know, the DEMOCRATICUS Fan of Caucus
had called for the DJ and Homeland Secure in the
FBI to investigate conservative Hispanics and conservative Hispanic media. And
you know, one day I check on LinkedIn, you know
who's viewed you, and it says attorney at the Department

(23:13):
of Justice. And I said, oh, fuck, here they come.
They're going to fucking cancel us. Yeah, and you know,
kept my eyes on it. You know, about a month
and a half later, I see an attorney for the
subcommittee in the House that was investigating this miss and disinformation.
I said, okay, it's coming, it's coming. So you know,

(23:35):
we started working pretty pretty aggressively you know, with with
the launch of our app, so we could get people
on our app, and you know, the opportunity to syndicate
our content through Odyssey, through a local radio station in
Miami happened. And and as we you know, as we're
you know, finalizing that deal, all of a sudden, I see,

(23:59):
you know, attorney office, a general counsel, serious eccent that
had looked at the profile. I said, fuck it, here
they come. They're gonna cancel us. And long and behold.
Two weeks later, we get a letter saying, you know,
we're gonna cancel you on this date. And uh and
and you know, and that's what they did. Bro, you know,
thank god, you know, we you know, we had already
planned our our you know, our off ramp onto Odyssey.

(24:20):
So that's that's what we did. But I've never told
that story, you know, publicly, and I'm telling it now
because I didn't want to get you know, in trouble,
right and uh and you know, and it was the
worst time. Everybody was trying to cancel you, and advertising
didn't want to touch us.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I mean, there's a whole bunch of shit. Now.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Advertisers, you know, are like, hey, you know, when are
you guys back what's going on? You know, and everybody's
noways looking for that contents, especially since his fanics had
moved to.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Almost, you know, virtually fifty percent of the country.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
So yeah, and you need to ramp that back up
because that's a much needed voice. That's that's got to
be heard.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, but it takes money, and you know that that's
been that that was the hardest challenge, right is you know,
we were able to raise the money that we raised
through friends and family, you know, never never got any
institutional money, you know v C or or you know
funds or whatever family offices.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
They just you know, didn't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
But it is what it is. Brother, it's in the past.
But you know, it's very clear on on you know,
on what's going on. Hey, mister producer, want you to
show us some of those slides we got through there
so we can walk through them. I got no no,
no go go to law enforcement ones there. There are

(25:41):
some on the ones that Jeff sent me because he
wanted to. He wanted to go through those and I
think there's some important issues to to discuss on those.
So while we wait for the producer Jeff, what do
you think do you think the president is going to

(26:01):
be able to get any traction on on t A
on constitutional carry on federal level?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
You know nationwise, well, you're still going to have state
resistance to that, you know, places like Illinois, California, New York.
You know you're still going to have that resistance. But
it's important to remember, I think you know, when voters
are thinking about this, no matter how you feel about
guns at all. Yeah, the Second Amendment is the only

(26:29):
amendment in the entire Constitution that specifically directs the government
to leave it alone. Yeah, you can't touch it. Shall
not be infringed is unambiguous.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, right, it's very clear. I mean, give me one second.
We got to go to commercial break real quick, and
we'll come back with that thought. Cannot be infringed, just
like our friend Mike Lindell.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
That's right, tee it up.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I guess we're having technicals. Maybe maybe Mike Lindell is
being infringed, So that is subro. It's very specific. So
I don't understand how liberals can argue that it's not
a guaranteed amendments or right.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
I mean, you know, we've always thought that the First Amendment.
The right to free speech right is the most sacred
of rights. But the Constitution does not say that the
right to freedom of speech shall not be infringed. It
just doesn't do it.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Well, that's why, that's why there's that argument, right, that's
why there's that argument that the second Amendments backs the
First Amendment.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Right, that's exactly right, that's exactly right. When you see
where your force comes from and your projection of power,
that's how you know which one is the most important,
because it allows you to continue to project that project
that force for the protection of all the other amendments
in that Constitution.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
But I finally curious the order, and it was, you know,
the right to free speech, and then boom, the right
to bear arms. So yeah, it directly backs up.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
The first It's not it's I mean, there's no doubt.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
But somehow, you know, they think that there is I
know that we're going to do something with automatic weapons, right,
I know that's on the table about making them legal again, right, well.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
And and the whole the thing about suppressors, you know
that that's going to come back, and the bump stocks
and and and all of these things that are you
know fall under the NFA rules. Uh, you know, short
barrel rifles and shotguns. You know, all of this should
be uh should be uh on the table for uh deregulation.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, freaking crazy bro. All right, do we have micros?
Mike might being infringed. All right, let's go with Mike.

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Speaker 2 (29:52):
All right, Just sending Mike a screenshot of is Ad
running on our show. A lot of that stuff. Man,
he's a he's a true patriot. He's a good friend,
just just a good guy man. And what they did
to him is just horrible, horrible.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
And and and it shows you they can do it
to anybody.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, yeah, but you know what, the good Lord is
on his side, and actually his business exploded because of.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
That, you know. So you know, you can't go against God. No,
you just can't, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
But hey, you know, but but but they try, I mean,
liberals try it and they believe it.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
And you know, it's funny. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
If you watch Sean Ryan show, the former Seal, and
you know he had an exorcist on. I've talked about
this in the past, you know, and you know this
exorcist is talking about you know, demons and angels and
all this, and you know, Sean just celebrated his three
years alcohol free, and you know, was saying how he's

(30:53):
found you know, God and faith and all this stuff
and you know, really an important piece of his life.
And he was asking the priests about, you know, demons
and angels and he goes, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
You know they exist.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
He goes, right now, we probably have at least two angels,
one one a piece, and there's probably three or four
demons in the room, you know. And the look on
Son's face, he was like horrific, you know, because say,
because he was talking about you know, like going to
those tarot card readers and all those people, and he goes,

(31:28):
you should never do that. You should never try and
contact the dead, because the only dead that you're going
to be able to contact are demons, because the good
guys they cross over and they go to heaven, they
don't come back, they don't come back.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
And he goes and.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
People that say that, no, no, no, you know, I
was talking to my mom or my grandmother, you know,
and they said very specific things that only she would
know or he would know. And he goes, that's because demons.
Demons are present, and they hear the same thing we hear,
you know, so you you know, they found the demon
that knew your grandmother and heard all these conversations, and

(32:03):
now he's coming across like your grandmother, and that's how
possession begins. I was like, holy fuck, dude, like the
hair on my arms, on my head, I mean, everything
was standing.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I got goosebumps. And he goes you know, you never
you know, in the past. So this is you know,
really key. In the past, Satan and his demons were hiding.
Right now they're wide open. They're out in the open
there they're you know, and and and you look at people,

(32:33):
you know, and you're like, that's got to be a
fucking demon.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean, there's another way.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Well, we know from Scripture Satan is the ruler of
this world. Yeah, right, so why would you be surprised
that he has his little minions running around, you know,
sticking their fingers and every little thing that comes along,
you know. I mean, and and you know, Scripture also
tells us, you know that that our ears are going
to hear what they want to hear. We're gonna have
false teachers that are tickling our ears to tell us

(32:59):
what we want to hear. That all comes straight from Satan. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's that's straight evil.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
And and you know, and using that as a preamble
to my next question. You know, when they say, well,
look at you know, how many shootings, and look at
how many of this, and look at how many of that?
You know, it's not the gun, it's the individual. And
most of these individuals are mentally disturbed, right, they're creating well.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
You know, otherwise evil, you know, for for for evil's sake,
you know, I mean, you know, I've carried a gun,
uh for you know, thirty plus years and it's never
gone off and done anything of its own accord.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It didn't shoot itself.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
It's never it's never walked into the mall and started
just randomly shooting, you know. I mean, it doesn't happen.
It doesn't happen. This is a This is about the
heart of man, which is you know, inherently evil, all
of us. I mean, that's why we were born with
the nature. You know, we're all inherently evil, and we
have to find something that that stands in for us,

(34:05):
which is Jesus Christ. Uh, you know, to to atone
for that evil that's in our lives.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
And that's a good point that you bring up. I
think if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord
and savior.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I think you're in trouble, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But so many but there's so many that don't, and
so many that actually attack that and attack those like
us that do.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Accept right, yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Then they wonder why the fucking place is all fucked up? Right?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
I mean that's that's that's it, that's the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
All right, mister producer, do you have your uh, do
you have your stuff?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Ready?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Let's see there we go, walk us through this. Jeff
or Play, the video.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Chief, did not mince words. He is angry about a
witness who appeared in one of our stories last night
who claimed that he's all flow with police shoot suspect
in the back who was trying to surrender. Today, he
gave us a look at those dash cam images and
an inside look at what he says really happened. A
hail of bullets on Lakeland Drive at Treetops Boulevard Sunday
just before four pm. Authorities say Flowood Police made a

(35:15):
traffic stop. Flowood Police released body and dash cam images
of the incident to sixteen WAPT According to police, eighteen
year old Jalen Robinson booked just last month on a
credit card fraud charge, jumped from the passenger side of
that vehicle and took off running before turning to shoot
a Flowood Police officer.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
Arfer attempting to taze him, only one of the prong
stuck in him, so it doesn't lock him up like
it normally would. And the suspect turned around and shot
our officer and the stomach.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
But a witness who didn't give his name.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
A right, Jeff, All right, yeah, yeah, there's several problems
with this.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
First of all, witnesses lie. They lie all the time,
and you know, so that's why I mean, what if
what if that witness had been on on camera somewhere,
you know, and and does a you know, ten second
video of I saw these officers shoot that man in
the back when he was trying to surrender, you know,
And you've got a huge uproar. But you can go
and look and see, uh that that picture right there.

(36:17):
Uh the officer, uh is clearly at a disadvantage. He's
standing basically over top of the guy, and and the
guy's got a gun out. If you're going to use
a taser, then your backup had better be right there, ready,
to use deadly force. And this guy's back up, as
you can see, was a long way off. Yeah, and
you know, so you can't you can't assume that you

(36:39):
can deploy a non lethal weapon. Uh. You know, you
you've got to have some control over the situation before
you can say, all right, we we we have we
have this situation contained. Now, we don't have to use
deadly force.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
Right.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
We have options once we've contained it, We've got options.
But when it's not contained, a taser is not your primary,
uh defense weapon here. You know, you've got to have
your you've got to have your handgun out ready to
engage this suspect until you get him contained and can
step down your level of force. You know, thank god

(37:15):
that officer was wearing a bulletproof vest and and took around,
you know, to the torso that that you know, the
vest stopped. But uh, you know that that's the second time, uh,
that you know an officer trying to, you know, engage
with a suspect used a taser instead of his duty weapon.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
And uh, I think there was another there was another
story of a guy trying to clear a house with
a taser. You don't clear a house with a taser.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Why why, why? Why is this going on?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Is it is it's a mandate from above, like you
were saying, right.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I think I think there's you know, this this history
of you know, Monday morning quarterbacking every law enforcement decision
that's ever made. Uh, there's a problem with you know,
everything being on on video now that can be misconstrued
because you only show ten seconds of it rather than
the full clip of what's going on, you know, and

(38:11):
and you're letting you know, these these liberal groups, these
anti police groups, control the narrative, and law enforcements got
to do a better job of controlling the narrative. Now.
I do applaud the flow Wood Police chief of you
know immediately you know, getting back and saying no, no, no, no,
we didn't shoot him in the back. Here he is,

(38:32):
you know, with his weapon pointed at our officer, you know. So,
so kudos to uh to the flow Wood Police chief
for that. But you got to train your guys better,
you know, you don't you don't run a guy down
that you you don't have control of yet with a taser.
You just don't do it.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Dude. That's that's that's insane.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Dude, I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
You know, maybe I'm not you know, the right guy
to to to to be in law enforce from you know,
so maybe thank God why I didn't end up there,
because I would have never used a fucking tasterer, Dude.
I would have probably shot more fucking people. My sol
probably would have been more like fucking Harry Callahan than
than one of these guys, and I probably would have
end up ended up blocked up.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I'm sure you know.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
You have to You have to start when when there's
active resistance. You have to start with a level above
what whatever's going on. I mean if the US Force
Continuum says that. You know, if if I'm an officer
and I'm engaged with you and you throw a punch,
then throwing a punch back at you is not my option.
You know, That's when I escalate. All right? Am I

(39:37):
going to use my baton? Am I gonna use uh
you know, my firearm? What what am I going to use?
But it's not gonna be my fist, just like you're
using your fist, right.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
But you can't just draw and fucking shoot them in
the leg.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Well, no, you're always shooting center mass to neutral, right,
but you know what I mean, you know, if the
guys to shoot somebody in the leg or the hand,
or shoot the gun out of their hand or anything
like you shoot in mass now.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But if the guy the guy's unarmed, right, if he
doesn't have a gun, but he's this big fucking dude
and he's coming out, well that yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
That then you can't. You can use deadly force if
you feel like what you're you're what his skill level
is plus his size and strength versus your skill level.
Now you should be well trained in you know, hand
to hand tactics, but you know, I mean at some point,
you know, natural law takes over, right, and and if

(40:27):
especially if say you're a you know, five ft five
inch female who weighs one hundred and twenty pounds, uh,
and you're dealing with a six foot five inch, three
hundred pound suspect, you're not going to go hands on
with that guy, no, you know. And so you know,
depending on what his intent is, if he's aggressively coming
at you, then that becomes a lethal force situation, yeah,

(40:48):
because he can take your gun or some other weapon,
and you know he's a threat to public safety, so
you take him out.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, yeah, totally, mister producer.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
What else do you uh, all right, let's see you
walk us through this.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
This uh you know this, this gets me more than
anything because this is you know, people who have public trust,
who have sworn an oath, who are in just their
own little you know, blue badge mafia. Right. I mean,
you've got it. You see this where it says dispatch

(41:30):
your death. The reason that dispatcher died was because he
had access to the evidence room and was uh uh
taking drugs while he was on duty. Died in his office.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Right, And and and this story. And I don't know
if the pictures in the in this story or not,
but you can see the evidence room and there's a
hole in the wall and they are reaching through with
a broom handle to open the door from the ends
of the hole in the wall. They're taking this broom
handle you can see in the corner there, and opening

(42:02):
the door to the evidence room so that they can
just walk in and access narcotics or anything else that
they want access. I mean, you want to talk about
not being able to present a case in court. Every
piece of evidence that's in that room is tainted.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
They compromise. Now I wonder how many, how many? How
many cases are going to be thrown out? How many?
Did you say? Five hundred?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Oh? I don't I don't really know. I don't know
how you know what their what their caseload is. I
don't have any any idea. I mean, they're a small town,
you know. But you have five indictments that come down there,
and you have the district attorney uh and and others
saying now that this police department needs to be abolished.

(42:46):
And so you abolish that police apartment.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
What happens? What happens? They get abolished, the sheriff's office.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Some Yeah, the sheriff's office takes over. So now you've
just doubled the load on the sheriff's office because they've
got to not only patrol their county, but now you're
as well, you know, and you know, so you're creating
an undue burden on the public. And this goes back
to oversight. This goes back to oversight. This is what

(43:12):
we're talking about. All right, let's go back to George Floyd. Right,
it doesn't matter how you feel about George Floyd, does
not matter, But you had nineteen excessive force complaints against
that officer whose name escapes me right now, Chauvin, Derek S. Chauvin.
You've got nineteen excessive force complaints. I guess that guy,

(43:34):
all right, You've got a police chief, you've got a mayor,
and you've got a district attorney who the district attorney,
by the way, was Amy Klobeashar not following up and
doing their job. You know what if they had done
their job in any one of those nineteen excessive force complaints,
George Floyd be alive today. What I mean, that's just

(43:57):
that's the truth of the matter. And and so you've
got oversight.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
If you have.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
You know, we were talking earlier about training, proper training
for law enforcement. Right, Well, if you're not doing proper training,
then what happens is you've got these guys who are
not well trained, who are there for a long time
and eventually get promoted up the ranks, right, and all
of a sudden, now an untrained officer is your chief administrator. Right,

(44:24):
So he's not holding anybody accountable because nobody ever held
him accountable. And now you've created an entire culture of
a department all the way from the top down, that
doesn't follow any rules and that's what happens when when
you wind up with a situation like Hansville, because the
chief of police was one of those who was indicted.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
So question, what's the difference between a shriff's office and.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I guess police.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Well, the sheriff is an elected official.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Well, s sheriff's office has county wide, right versus.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah, yeah, And the primary function of the sheriff's office
is not law enforcement. It's to serve the courts. They
they they administer the jail, they administer the courts, They
provide court security, They serve the court's papers. So if
you've got a civil paper somebody's suing somebody, or somebody's
getting evicted, or you know, you've got a bench warrant
that comes out from the judge, then the sheriff's office, Uh,

(45:19):
their mandate is to go and handle those papers and
serve serve the court. Right. But most sheriff's office offices
have a law enforcement function as well, and they patrol
the unincorporated areas of the county and uh and and
handle that.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Well, down here in Miami Dade, you know, it was uh,
it was you know, a sheriff's office and they they
were sued for years and paid a fine not to
be not to use sheriff's office, right, And it was
always you know, Miami Dad PD and and and recently
starting this year and now they're Miami Dade Sheriff's Office.

(45:55):
But I don't think there their scope has changed because
they have you know, Compsons, narcotics, have investigation.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, I mean, they've got all of that most and
especially in a place as big as Miami. Uh, you know,
they're they're going to have all of those things. Los Angeles, uh,
you know, the l A Sheriff's office, I mean, Los
Angeles a big place, right, and they've got their own
tag team and specialized units.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
All all of these places generally have both a sheriff's
office and a municipal police department. Interesting, you know, but
the police mandate is is the law enforcement function.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
It's not a beer.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
It's not a beer. It's not three o'clock yet, it's
not a beer.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
And this is not bourbon, it's it's actually ginger ale.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Oh nice. So but yeah, I like this PEPSI dude,
because it doesn't have the the fake sugar. It's got
real sugar. Yeah, you know, like the Mexican Coca cola. Yeah,
but yeah, we you know even though.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Straight from look straight from the sugar cane.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
That's right, that's right, which is which is awesome. But
but anyways, mister producer, can we go to the next
slide or are we having technical glitches?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Still?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
All right? All right, let's go.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
This is really impressive.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
This is a long video.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
It was about ten minutes, so you don't need to
play it.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
But do you want to play the beginning or something
or is there a shot?

Speaker 2 (47:24):
No?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
No, nothing, Well you play you played first couple of
minutes here. What you're going to see is, uh officers
responded to to to a call here if somebody mentally disturbed.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
All right, welcome through, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Yeah, so you're seeing you're seeing this, uh that these
officers have have uh uh gathered up to go find
a guy who is who is having some kind of
mental health crisis. And they're they're you know, getting there, uh,
getting organized about how they're gonna find and approach this guy,
and all of a sudden they see him and then
make their approach and uh, so you're gonna see him.

(48:03):
There's a you know, a couple officers here. I think
about three officers and they go up and they they
go up here to make contact with this with this guy.
And you're gonna see him in a minute. As they're
talking to him, Uh, he pulls a weapon and opens fire.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Holy crop.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Now all right, so you got the sergeant, he's looking around,
he's checking things out, and he's got you know, two
other officers. Maybe there's another guy back there in the back. Now, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this this the sergeant takes around to the leg. He's
shot in the left hip, kill it in the exchange
of gunfire. What's impressive here is that in the suspect,

(48:47):
because all three of the officers return fire. They killed
the suspect on the scene. But what you have here
is very impressive is this sergeant maintained his situational awareness
and in his composure to the point that he directs
did other officers to get a tourniquet on him, uh,
stance the bleeding. You know, he's he's directing them how
to continue to cover the suspect and give the suspect,

(49:09):
try and give him commands, you know, hands out, you know,
let us see your hands, let us let us get
up there and make an approach. So that we can
take care of you. And so he's doing that while
he's tending his own wound, uh and and guiding his
his subordinates.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, I mean that's that guy was outstanding. Kudos to
Albuquerque Police Apartment Sergeant Brandon Watts.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
All right, big shout out from Jeffrey Queen.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, that big shout out to uh to Sergeant Watts there, uh,
you know, and maintain radio conversation. He was able to tell,
you know, dispatch, I'm hit, we're tending my wound. Suspect
is down, We've got we're setting up a perimeter. Uh
you know, here you go, here, you go here, uh,
you know, just maintain complete control of the scene.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Really uh, really impressive work by Sergeant Watts. That's that's
a good training program. I'm there in Albuquerque.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
All right, cool? Are you ready for Mike Lindell? Ok,
all right, let's see them up.

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Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, uh you know that's you know again we talk
about training. Yeah, that's that. That department clearly is doing
a good job training their supervisors and just making it
clear that they know what they're doing. They're able to
maintain a scene. They've got great bearing, you know that.

(51:48):
I mean, that's so important to maintain your bearing. You know,
when when things are going bad and because right, that's
when if you don't maintain your bearing, then that's when
you get excessive force. That's when you get those those
complaints that you know law enforcement is acting inappropriately. There's
not a thing in the world you can say watching
that video about them doing anything inappropriately. They killed a

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suspect right there on the scene and it was all done,
you know, as textbook as you can do it. During
the gunfight. The officers wounded and still manages to do
everything right. That's impressive.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, you know, going back to a concealed Carrie. You
see so many videos of this famous punch out where
these kids are walking down the street and they just
fucking hammer somebody cold cock them, or you know on
metro rides where they come up and snatch purses and
ship from people. If criminals knew that everybody was packing,

(52:53):
don't you think crime would go down?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I do? I mean, you go back to the Old West, right,
I mean, everybody's wearing a gun. You couldn't call a
man a liar. You couldn't call a man a coward
because everybody had to depend on on those guys. You know,
you spoke politely because you knew if what you said,
let alone what you did, you know, uh, creates a

(53:17):
problem that means that nobody trusts you anymore. Then they're
not gonna you know, again, we talked about the countries
founded on bold individuals. But you know, at some point,
you know, one bold individual can't hold off a tribal hostiles, right,
and so you have to depend on each other to
create that that basis of security. And you know, that's

(53:40):
what we need to go back to today. That's why
the Second Amendment was created. It is so that we
can band together as citizens to protect ourselves from you know,
just overwhelming evil. And that's what the whole entire Second
Amendment is about. It's not about arms are on for militias.

(54:01):
The whole point of that is that because and organized
militia is necessary for the security of the free state,
that same militia organized can do whatever they want to
the individual people in that free state, and they are
become the rule of law. So that's why it's important
for individual citizens to be able to keep in bear arms.

(54:24):
It's about being able to have the same ability to
defend yourself as the government has to attack you, correct,
That's what the Second Amendment is about.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
So we saw something happening in Mexico yesterday. I wanted
to bring this up because it's right up your alley
on the law enforcement things and especially dealing with the cartels.
So the president naming six organizations cartels eight, yeah, eight
of them to the terrorist list, which changes the game
because that means now, if they're international terrorists, we can

(54:56):
go and take them out directly. The Mexican president has
put and is pushing to pass the legislation you know,
limiting or or to try and block the United States
from engaging the cartels, which you know, we've talked about
this for years with our friend Robert or Robert Arse

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as well, who was very.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Familiar with the cartels.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
And there you go. And you know, there's been a
long standing rumor that every cabinet of every administration in
the Mexican government, you know, for at least a couple
of decades have have had somebody that is connected to
one of the cartels.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Yeah, I don't know why that would be surprising I
mean you see Bose Parliament's got people that are connected
to Islamic terrorism.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Mean why why why would that be a surprise.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
But the thing is the thing with this, though, is
I don't think Trump is gonna give a ship what
mech he Goo does with their legislation. You know, the
cartels attack you know, our border or a border patrol
or one of our troops, I think Trump is going
to drop the fucking hammering and just blow them to smithereens.
I mean, you've heard home and clearly say that. You've

(56:15):
heard going or know them say that. And you know,
I mean the President hasn't come out and said it,
but I think, you know, maybe even Jade vans Er
I think, uh, I think even Marco Rubio has said that. Right.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
So well, you know, let's let's go back to this week.
We talked about this last time, and and you know,
terrorism is nothing but criminal enterprise writ large. Yeah right,
And so if you're committing a crime, then we're going
to stop you from committing a crime, as it would
it would be the same thing as anybody anywhere saying,
uh you know, oh well, you know we're we're going

(56:47):
to commit this crime and you don't have the right
to stop us. Well, yeah, we we do. And and
so if your government is not going to take care
of the problem, and we've seen this, we saw in Afghanistan, right, yeah,
you know we we we went in there without any
any qualms about knocking over a hostile government, right you know.

(57:08):
So if you're gonna be right on our border, on
our doorstep, and you're not gonna cull your own nuts,
then we're gonna do that for you.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah. How how easy or how complicated do you think
that would be to take out a cartel? A lot
of people are like, oh, E would walk in there,
you know, doing jumping Jackson high. Well, I don't know
if that be that easy, dude, because they hire.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Mers and they have a whole we've we've had this
conversation offline, you know, and and they do they hire mercenaries.
The difference is that, you know, you go into Afghanistan,
it's much harder get right because those people are ideologically motivated.
You know, you hire mercenaries, they're just guns for hire,
and when the heat gets gets on them, they're gonna

(57:48):
go find an easier way to make a paycheck, right, that's.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
What I think. I think they're gonna scram if they see,
you know, a couple a couple, a couple of sealed
teams show up.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Right Fully, We're not gonna have to send but tallions
in like we did in Afghanistan. You're gonna send some
special op guys across the border who are already, by
the way, monitoring these cartels. You know, they know where
they are. They just got the leashes on them right now.
You let the leash go, and the guard dog goes
out and does what the guard dog's supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
And we got some good dogs too, by the way,
and they like to fight, you.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Know, Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know this is this
is not their first rodeo. They've been there and done
things that you've never heard of, you've never seen. It
doesn't get publicized. So when all of a sudden, you see,
you know, a cartel compound that's just up in smoke
and nobody knows anything. Yeah, I think you pretty well
all the family happened.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
By calling that out, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
And there's been a lot of a lot of a
lot of conversation about this, you know, is this Trump
setting up the annihilation of the cartels, because we know
he's super anti drugs, you know, is right his older brother.
I think it was Fred to alcoholic drugs, and he's very,

(59:06):
very very anti drugs. He hates drugs and passion. Do
you think this is him signaling I'm fucking going to
kill them?

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I think it very well could be, you know, because.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
He's got four years, He's got four years and that
is over. So this is his only shot to get
rid of them and exterminate him forever.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Right, And you know, we know how Trump operates. He's
a negotiator. He will make a deal with you, you know,
to to get it done, you know. I mean he's
a businessman, right, and he knows how to do this.
But he also is no nonsense. And he says, all right, well,
if you're not gonna deal, if you're not gonna do it,
then we are gonna go ahead and do what's the
right thing to do. And that's the way to protect

(59:46):
the art.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
But do you really think the fucking Mexicans do they
are going to take out the fucking cartels and fucking
all no, no.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
And so we're gonna have to And so that's what
I say I think, I think that very well. This
could be a lead up to to doing that. And
he's gonna tell them, look, you can do this this
way or you can do it that way, and you
have a choice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
So you think he's gonna he's gonna give him, He's
gonna give.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Him an option. Stop sending shit over here, and I'll
leave you fucking alone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, that's that's it, you know. I mean, and we
do that in law enforcement too. We give everybody an option,
you know, and if you're if you're in a vehicle
pursuit and you set up a roadblock, you know, you
give them the option of passing through. You don't just
block the road completely where their only choice is to
ram your cars. Now, hopefully, if you've done it right,
you've got stopsticks set up, and so when they go

(01:00:33):
through the gap, they glow the tires and you know,
and you can de escalate the situation. But you always
give them an option, uh, for de escalation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
And Donald Trump is no different than anybody else. You know,
the difference between Donald Trump and the Democrats is the
Democrats never gave them any option for escalation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Yeah. Yeah, that's true too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
So give us no more story man, one of your favorites.
I know, we always we always like to ask for
a war Swarry. Uh, I forgot to ask you to
have one ready, So I'm putting you on the spot. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
So let's let's let's go back and talk about tasers. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
And uh so we had a call. Uh uh one
of the guys on the shift with me went to
a house and uh supposedly this this woman was outside
with a twenty two shooting into the end of the
air over the neighbor's house. And uh so he goes
up and talks, finds out what's going on, and and

(01:01:32):
he goes next door to talk to this lady. And
when he knocks on the door, she shows up in
the window with a couple of butcher knives. Holy shit, Now,
I mean there's no no lethal force there. I mean
she's inside behind the window, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
So he's trying to get a hold of her and
and and talk to her, and she's not engaging, and
so I go up there to back him up. And
you know, it's not long before another deputy shows up,
and then the sergeant shows up, and the sergeant says, well,
let's go and see apparently we've got we've got a
committal order on this lady. She's got a mental health
committal order. Oh okay, well good, let's let's let's go

(01:02:09):
in here and uh and do it. So I walk
around the house and uh, I have what I call
my my handy dandy entry tool, which is basically a
pride bar, and uh. So I walk around. I find
a window that's unlocked in the back, and so I
pop the window, and so uh I go inside and uh,

(01:02:29):
I've got my weapon out right, I'm clearing I'm clearing
the house as much as I can to go from
this room back to the front door. Yeah, with my weapon,
I get the front door open, and everybody else comes in.
So we're announcing. We've been announcing ourselves. I announced when
I went through the window. Hey, Sheriff's office. We work
our way in. We get everybody else in, and now

(01:02:53):
I'm the only one with a taser, So I said,
all right, I got the taser, but immediately beside me
was another officer with his pistol out. Yeah right, I
mean we're we're going through in tandem, and we're clearing
it in tandem, and we get all the way through
the house. Everything's clear. We get all the way to
the back bedroom, and when you when you stand in

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the bedroom door, the bed's kind of across from you
on the left a little bit. Immediately on the wall
to the left is a closet. Immediately on the wall
in the back corner to the right is what looks
like a walk in closet. But immediately inside there it's
a slightly open door that looks like a bathroom. So
we clear the room. We've checked on the bed, we've
checked the closet, and then we start towards the big

(01:03:36):
walk in closet, and here she comes out of the
bathroom door and she's got her two butcher knyves raised up.
Now she's not running at us, she's standing there and
she's screaming at us. And I'm telling her, all right,
drop drop the knives, you know, or I'm gonna tase you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
We got we got this situation contained, right, She's not
going she can't go anywhere. We've got her covered with
both lethal and non lethal force. We've got four deputies
to her. One person with two butcher knives. Just dropped
the knivest We got this contained and and she takes
another step and I said, ma'am, if you take one
more step, I'm gonna tase you. Well, she took another

(01:04:11):
step and I fired, and the taser hit dead center
and each taser prown went in her boobs. I shot
her in the tits with a taser.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Oh my god, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
And she dropped both knives and she kind of fell
back against the wall and I told her, I said,
get down on the ground, just get down on the ground. Well,
she didn't do that. She tried to pick the knives
back up. So I pulled the trigger on the taser
because the probes were still attached. So when I did that,
she fell over on the bed. And when she fell

(01:04:47):
over on the bed, one of the other deputies that
didn't have his weapon out ran over there and threw
him on top of her in her bed. And the
sergeant turned and looked at me and he said, boy,
he got up there so fastest, like you've been in
bed with her before.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
That is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
And uh and and there you go, an other successful
arrests with no uh, nobody dead, right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
So no no nobody dead. We you know, we we
took her and we we we got her, you know,
the the down to the mental health uh facility, and
we got her some help. And you know, I don't
I don't know whatever happened, you know, what the disposition
of it was after that? Uh you know, but uh
but yeah, I mean, the taser works when when used properly, right,

(01:05:37):
but you you've got to contain the scene, and you've
got to have lethal force coverage and then the taser works,
and other than shooting her in the boobs, you know,
I mean, it worked a perfection.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Absolutely absolutely. Hey, So we've seen videos, everybody's seen them
a hundred times where there's a deputy with a gun
and there's somebody coming after him and he's like, you know,
don't take any more status, back up, back up, back up,
and they never back up, and the deputy keeps on
back and I'm keeps back and I'm keeps on back
and I'm keeps backing them and then he ends up

(01:06:12):
fucking stabbed or killed. What the fuck, dude, I mean,
at what point do you do that? Or what point
do you just shoot the guy?

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Right? But if I tell you, if I tell you
to stop, and you don't stop, and I tell you
to stop again, and you don't stop, You're gonna catch
a bullet.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I mean, I mean you legally you can do that, right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Bigger Yeah, it becomes a bigger public safety issue. You
know what if he backs you into a crowd and
then he starts stabbing everybody?

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
So what point? So when it? When does it become
legal for you to shoot the guy with the knife
when he's coming at me? Okay, so you don't even
have to tell him to stop, you can just shoot him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Yeah, I mean, if you're coming at me with a knife,
I'm gonna shoot you. But I you know, for me
and hopefully for you know, again a training issue. You
tell him to drop the knife, but you know, if
they don't, there's nothing, there's no nothing anywhere that says
you have to, you know, go through a certain number
of thresholds before you're actually allowed to shoot somebody. If

(01:07:10):
you're in a lethal forced situation, you shoot somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
And that's what I don't understand about the liberal left.
You know that says, oh, the guy had a gun,
he had a you know, and and and the purb
had a knife. You know, he didn't have to kill
him and I was like, what the fuck are you
talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
If you have a deadly weapon in your hand, it's
a deadly weapon no matter what anybody else has. You know,
I can have a freaking bazooka if you got a knife,
and you can use it, right, you still get me?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, and you can shoot that bazook at him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Yeah, if you If you if you've got a deadly
force instrument, then you are initiating deadly force and that
you respond to deadly force with deadly force.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
All right, some two questions. What is it the Castle
Act or Castle.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Laws doctrine standing ground?

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Yeah? Right, so tell us about that. What does that
mean for for for regular folks?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Well, you, if you're in a place you have the
right to be, then you don't have to back down
before you use lethal force. If somebody's coming in your house,
you don't know why they're there and they don't have
a right to be there, and you tell them, hey,
get out, and they start coming at you and say no,
I'm I'm not getting out, you can shoot them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
And that only applies to your home or it applies
to well, no business, etcetera.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Public If you're in a public place and you have
the right to be there, and and somebody is a
threat to public safety and is endangering your life or
the life of other people around you, then you have
the right to use deadly force.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
And Okay, so here's another question. If there is a
situation like that, right, and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
You draw.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Like the senior ground law, how how exactly does senior
ground work? Because because I because you know, I understand
and that once you have or or or the person
knows that you're armed, you have to protect the weapon.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Right, But I mean hopefully you you if you're going
to train, then you don't need to just train it
putting holes in paper. You need to train on weapon retention. Uh.
You need to be able to deflect, you know, if
you've got your if you got your weapon out and
the suspect comes right up on you to engage, you know,
if you don't have a clear safe shot. You know,

(01:09:24):
if you're in the middle of a big crowd, Uh,
all of a sudden that runs up on you to
look and see and everybody's got their phone out. Well,
you don't want to be just firing rounds, you know, randomly.
So you've got to practice weapon retention. You've got to
practice offhand, uh, combatives where you can put your hand
up and try to manipulate the suspect away from you

(01:09:45):
to get yourself a clear shot. Right. But there's nothing
that says you have to put your gun up and flee,
you know, if you're in a stand your ground situation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
And pulsinger ground is also defending the weapon, right, you
can't have to defend the weapon.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Yeah, but that that's that that should be you know,
standard for anybody that's going to carry a weapon anywhere.
You know that you've got to defend you even if
you got to defend your weapon, even if you don't
draw it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Correct. And that's what I was trying to get at, right,
So if somebody's coming for your weapon, you can use
deadly force to protect the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Weapon absolutely because you don't want them to have your gun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Right right?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yeah, and if you got to shoot where you shoot
center mass? Okay, what does that mean for people?

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Torso area? You know up here, biggest part, the biggest
target you got.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
So you don't sit there and pretend you're doing a
video game and go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
For headshots right right now?

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
You don't. You don't unless you've been trained to shoot
headshots regularly. In a combat situation, you know, military sniper
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
You know, I mean, no, you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Shoot, you shoot it the biggest part of the target
that's coming at you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
And how many shots?

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
How many it takes to neutralize the threat?

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
OKAYO one, You don't shoot once and wait to see
what happens.

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
If if you've got a fifteen round magazine and you
shoot seven times and the guy's still coming at you,
then shoot eight, shoot nine, shoot ten, whatever it takes
to stop this guy, you know, from from coming at
you or other people.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
That's why that sheriff is like, you know, if you
want to be shot, we're gonna shoot you, and we're
gonna shoot y'all lt you know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Yeah, And I've.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Always believed that that's the way. You know, I got
trained as well as you. You don't stop until the
person's down right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Right, yeah, and they neutralize Even if they're down and
they've still got their weapon and there's still a threat,
you know, they're trying to engage you with their weapon,
then you shoot again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Down is not the out of the qualifier. It's whether
they're capable of carrying out a threat or not. That's
the qualifier.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Interesting. That's that's very important too for people to understand that, right,
because yeah, I mean, you know you see it in movies.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
You know, even it's a movie, but you know they
shoot the guy once the person falls down and you know,
still with the gun, and they go hug each other
and oh my god, we're safe, and then the fucking
guy turns around and fucking kills him. You know, it's like, ah,
what the fuck did you just do? Why don't you
just empty the whole fucking mag You should have an
extra mag anyways, at least one, right, but you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Might want to go get that. If the guy goes
down and the gun's laying beside him, go get the gun. Yeah,
you know, if he still has the capacity to pick
that gun up, your threat's not neutralized.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Now if you go get the gun while he's down,
you don't come back over there and he's still alive. Oh,
let me put one between his eyes. No, then you
start rendering eight.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
So realistically, that's why you have bigger caliber. Right, But
you know, people can survive nine, and they can survive
several nines. Can they survive a point blank from a
forty A forty five?

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
A ten mil Yeah, the people people.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
People don't die because of the caliber they've been been shot.
They die because of the amount of blood loss, right,
you know that that happens. And so if I shoot
you with one forty five or three nines, you know, uh,
you're you're you're still gonna be losing blood. Now does
one forty five put out more blood than three nines?
Maybe maybe not, you know, but it's a bigger hole,

(01:13:25):
you know. But but that's that's that's what kills you
in a gunfight, is is blood loss?

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Yeah, Well, I think if you shoot somebody squaring the chest,
you're gonna blow up their hearts.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
So they're that anyways, right, Yeah, if you if if
if if you hit a major organ, you know, major
blood vessel, you know, you hit thumberal artery, you know,
and and and they bleed out faster, you know, Uh,
shoot him in the neck, hit the carotid, you know,
something like that. You know, people, people are gonna bleed out.
But uh, you know, caliber doesn't really have anything to
do with that. It's it's bullet placement and uh and

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the amount of damage that's done.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
That's interesting to know. So why why the differentiator in
the caliber. I mean, I know the story on why
the FBI moved from uh from thirty eights to I
think the forties are forty.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Five nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
So so if caliber is not a difference, then why
did they do that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Well, because most of them had thirty eight caliber revolvers
that only had six shots.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
And you know, people, people tell us about that story
because not a lot of people know that story.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
People people who don't know about guns maybe don't understand.
They think of thirty eight is much bigger than a
nine millimeters. The bullet diameter is actually identical. Yeah, you know,
a nine millimeter is essentially a thirty eight caliber bullet,
just loaded differently in a different cartridge. And uh, you
know part of that was so.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Tell us the story. Tell us a story. You remember
the story.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
I don't remember all of these. It was a bank
robber and all that, right, bank robbers. They were actually
out looking for them. They they were actively looking for
these guys and expecting them to hit a certain location,
and they they actually found him at a little bit
different location, I think. And uh, and so everybody had
to try and scramble from one spot to the other,

(01:15:16):
and they wound up with uh, with a couple of
agents following the guys trying to to uh, you know,
get to him, and and the guys recognized that that,
you know, they were being followed him, and so a
shootout escalated.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
But uh, and it was close. It was like car
to car, right, Yeah, which is crazy. I'm seeing if
the producer miss a producer can find a video clip
on it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
It was all it was insane, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Yeah, But what you had was one guy who was
responding had already taken his gun out of his holster
and had it in his lap, and when he came
up on the scene and and got you know, hit
with the vehicle, his gun flies out of his lap
and lands in the floorboard. Now he's unarmed in the
center of the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
So you know, you had guys that were just under armed, right,
they were not well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Armed, and the other guys were using high fucking you know,
hys semi automatic rifles.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
You know, one guy had a shotgun in his trunk
and managed to go and get that and put rounds
down range with a shotgun, but at that point he
was already wounded too, you know, And if I'm not mistaken.
One of the bank robbers took a fatal round that
did not incapacitate him, and so he continued to shoot
until he bled out. That's amazing, you know, that's exactly

(01:16:37):
what we're talking about here. The guy takes a fatal round,
but it does not incapacitating. All right, why keep shooting?

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Question for you? Do you prefer a shotgun or you
prefer a semi automatic not not handgun but rifle?

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Well, they their functions are different, right right, But if
if you're in your house, if I'm in if I'm
in my house, I got it locked and loaded.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
They are so that you would that would be your
go to versus a shotgun or.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Something's right beside my bed.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you've got more rounds in it,
right yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
And and today's gun of choice, Oh the sick the Legion,
that's that's the three tacops.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Nice. Nice, This is mine right here, Yes, sir, we
got the same uh, the same light on it tool one. Yeah, yeah,
they make the best something. I like this one because
this one, this one gives me a laser. So it
gives me a light, and it gives me a laser
you know, right, yep, So you know I can use both,

(01:17:47):
which is really cool. And this one, you know this
one just you know this this has got a.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Laser that's in the grip.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Yeah, in the grip. I like this one. Crimson trace, yes,
Crimson yep, yep, like those.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
But yeah, man, I always forget that you're a sig
guy too, you know, yeah, you've always You've always.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Liked sig, right, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
I've got a three sixty five as well.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Oh that's the h Is that your concealed carry.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
That's the little micron? Yeah, depending and depending on you know,
where I am and what I'm doing. I changed magazines
because it's got a twelve round magazine. He's got an
extended ten round magazine, and it's got a flush fit
ten round magazine. So if I want deep covered, then
I put the flush fit ten in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Wow, mister producer, did you find a video on that Slayer?

Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
All right, whatever, And that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
So quick question before we go, because I know we
got to wrap it up. Gun manufacturers, how would you
rate them? How would you see them? I know glocks
are very popular. I have a couple I have, you know, uh,
Smith and Wesson you got, you know, obviously your SIGs,
you got your you know, there's there's all kinds, right, yeah, yeah,
there's there's a ton of reputable companies out there, and

(01:18:57):
you've named all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
And you know Colt is owned by c Z now,
you know, and they make good, good guns. I don't
have any experience with the Colts that are manufactured under
the CZ brand, you know. But but you can get
a quality firearm from any of those manufacturers. And I
and I tell people all the time, you know, no,
there's there's not anyone that's better than any of the others. Now,

(01:19:21):
until you find the one that's best for you. I mean,
if you're you know, SIG has a certain grip, you know,
uh uh, you know, the Smith and West and the
Shields and things have a certain grip. FN's got a
certain grip.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
All of these guns have different grips. If you can't
find one that fits your hand, then I can tell
you all day that SIG is the best gun manufacturer
out there. Right, I can tell you that Smith and
Wesson is the best gun manufacturer out there. But if
that gun doesn't fit your hand so that you can
safely and accurately manipulate that weapon, then it's useless to you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
I have a I have a I have a Smith
and Wesson m m P two dot O ten mil.
It's uh, dude, the grip on that thing is amazing.
You could have mud, slime, vasoline on your hands or whatever,
and dude, you cannot lose grip of that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Yeah. F N is the same way those Yeah, d
f Those f FN Tactical's got a fantastic grip on them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah. That's that's that's that's SAME's everyday Carrie too. Yeah,
look at that grip.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
All right, this has been stippled. Yeah, I mean this
is very aggressively textured.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Yeah, and uh, you know, so you want something that's
that's comfortable in your hand, that you can hang on
to in the middle of a firefight, you know, whatever's
going on. And so if I take you, and in
fact I had her. Just a little while ago, a
friend of mine texted me and said, hey, I want

(01:20:50):
to talk to you this evening about going and getting
a new gun. I said, absolutely, you know, so you
want what works for you. You know, you got big,
you got small. I mean I'm not a tall guy,
but I got big hands, right, so I like a
bigger grip gun.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Yeah, that's why I could never I could never get
into the g nineteen, right, the glock nineteen it was
just just too small. My you know, my pinky was
always in the air, you know, right, Yeah, and I
felt like I didn't have a good grip on the gun, you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Know, right. So that's why I always that's why I
go with the twenty, with the full size.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Well, you know, I had a had a Kimber Ultra
carry too, you know, the little three inch nineteen eleven
forty five caliber, but the grip was too short on it. Yeah,
And so I went and got an extended Maguell I
won't say who from, but they make really quality aftermarket Magwells,
and so I had Magwell. It added you know, almost

(01:21:44):
half an inch you know to the overall grip on
the gun. And now I love, I absolutely love that
little nineteen eleven. It's it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Yeah, this is what I have here in this clock
for this. So the nineteen X is actually it's got
the frame of a seven team, so full size, but
it's got the barrel of nineteen. And if I put
this mag in that's extended. Look how many gets extended,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Right, and now you extend So it used to be
used to be guys would put.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
You know OVERI yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Like first Block first came out, you'd have a thirty
round magazine and it was just a magazine hanging out
the bottle. And then Block started adding the grip extensions
and the magazine uh extensions that that fit flush up
into the grip. So it just becomes an extension of
the grip. And you know that was that was really
smart manufacturing by gun manufacturers.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Dad.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Allow you to have extra rounds in your weapon and
not lose any of the grip you know of handling
and manipulating the weapon. And again it doesn't matter how
good I shoot with my sig. If you can't use
it to put rounds on target down range, then you
need a different gun.

Speaker 6 (01:22:52):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
So now this this is the last question. I keep
on saying, you know, one more question before we go in.
And here we are going on an hour and a half.
I think, uh, people train when you go to the
range and they're like, oh, I can shoot two hundred yards,
three hundred yards, you know, what's a real I'm this
is this is what I do personally.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
I practiced from five to twenty that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Yeah, most gunfights are going to no button. But nobody
is getting in a gunfight with their neighbor and their
neighbors hiding behind their house half a block away, shooting
at you while you're hiding behind your house. Yeah, gun
fights happened in very close. I mean, look, you saw
the video. You saw the video of the Albuquerque sergeant
getting shot. That gunfight took place.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
We feed.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
It started you know, maybe three or four feet, and
it extended, you know, as they're retreating and he's retreating.
You know, it eventually goes to probably twenty feet.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
What did you practice? What you what did you practice
at range? What do you practice at today? What do
you recommend, you know, civilians to practice at a real range.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
I think I think civilians, anything beyond seven yards is
going to be each twenty one feet is going to
be you know, detrimental to you. You know, until you
get comfortable with your weapon, and you know, the twenty
with the weapon is you can hit targets you know
that are right in front of you. You know, then
you can start expanding out and building your skill.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Set so start short five to twenty feet.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Yeah, I would say no. You know, when when I
take somebody to the range and you know, you say,
you send the target out there and they've got you know,
lines on the floor that delineate various things, I always
put it out there to the to the closest.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Line to fight out.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
That may be a little bit, a little bit closer
than five feet, you know, probably generally closer to ten
maybe ten feet, But I think that's plenty to get started.
You can you can get a good site picture, you
can put rounds on target, and you can find out,
you know, what sort of what sort of errors you've
got right and and and then work on correcting those.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Like if it goes to the left, what is that
mean a lot of people don't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
If it goes to the left, you got to you know,
you're pushing too far, you know, and uh, you don't
have enough finger on the trigger because you're pushing pushing
in too far. If it's going to the right, you
got too much finger on the trigger. You just want
to have that tip of your finger, uh right there
on the trigger.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
And so you shoot with the with the finger, not
with I mean with the tip, not with the finger.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Right, Yeah, the thing the finger is just a mechanism,
you know, to pull the tip back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Yeah, that's it. There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
You just heard it from the man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Law Enforcement Fridays is back. You want to comment, You
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You want him to bring up any issues at all.
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Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Make sure you put in your questions. You got a
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Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Know, yep, we'll answer them. Always a pleasure to be
with you, Ivan, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
It's glad to have Law Enforcement Fridays back. What a bet?
What a better way to finish a week then to
talking about security, talking about protecting ourselves, our family, our
loved ones and uh and protecting our country.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Jeff Thank you very much, man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
I appreciate you, brother, Yeah, appreciate it, buddy. See you say, take.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Care, Hi guys. Hopefully you had a great time. You
learned some things, and like we said, you know, we
wanted to kick this off again. Back when we had Battleground.
We used to do it every Friday. Law Enforcement Fridays
me and Jeff would kind of have these conversations, open dialogues,
and we would bring in guests too. You know, he
would bring in you know, former law enforcement partners or

(01:26:32):
people or you know, narcotics guys or gang guys or
you know, bring other other other fellows and and and
make it a really fun conversation. So you know, we're
bringing that back. Law Enforcement Fridays is back and it's
here to stay. Now under Ig is going rogue. We'll
see you next week. We got a fucking hell of
a fucking lineup next week, including the UH, including the

(01:26:53):
pot lobbyists, including the doctor who is considered anti vaxxer,
but now I guess she was so right about so
many things.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
So we'll see you next week. Get ready,

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