February 24, 2025 • 64 mins
Ron Aledo, former intelligence officer joins us to discuss the impact of Dan Bongino joining Kash at the FBI. We also discuss Russia - Ukraine war, Romania, Germany and the disaster in Europe.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to I jhe going rogue. Today is Monday, February
twenty fourth, and what a Sunday. Amazing Sunday, great news,
probably one of the best news.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I mean, this is going to be epic.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Dan Pontinio, Deputy director for the FBI, let's just cut
to the chase, go directly with Ronald Later, who's joining
us today. Hey, Ronde, was that bad ass?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Or was that badass?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Man?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Holy shay, amazing, it's amazing, great, great news. I mean
then our deputy director cash as a number one of
the director. That's a dream team for the FBI. That
means that means that all the bs that have been
in the FBI for the last at least for years,
(01:11):
but maybe for a lot more.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, I think since before twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, from before all this culture over there, left wing
rhino culture, I mean politically correct culture is going away.
I mean they're going to clean the house over there.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah. Man, I think it's epic. I think it's going
to be epic.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And we have Pambandi at DOJ so she she is
a no bullshit kind of woman and there needs to
be a lot of clean up over that f PI.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think we know this.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know, when we go back to the fifteen sixteen
election and we know the whole Russian collusion crap, the
whole Russian hoax, it all starts there and from.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Before James coming. James Coming is the essence of the
deep state is the essence. I mean, nobody represented what
the deep state is more than former director of the
FBI Comedy because he from the day one, I mean
from the very start, he was against Trump and he
wanted to use his power, his authority inside the FBI,
(02:11):
and all the FBI agents that were with him over
there in the top floor of the FBI, they were all,
that's gonna go to war against trum that's gonna destroy Trump.
Let's gonna sabotage he. That's gonna put it on jail.
That's gonna put in jail everybody with Trump, I mean coming,
he said, immediately the first week, I sent agents to
(02:36):
set up and to trap Lieutenant General Flynn. Yeah, I mean,
so it was amazing for they are the deep state.
That is the classic by the book definition of the
deep state.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, and Camy McCay, Peter Stroke, all those guys.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But they didn't act alone.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Obviously, I think they came, you know, with with orders
wrecking from the White House from President Obama and who
knows who else. But I gotta tell you, you know, talking
to friends in d C. And talking to people I'm
sure you have as well, you know, at the Bureau
and some of the other agencies, especially the Bureau, they're
very excited. I think the general consent is at least
(03:19):
a third, if not half, of Washington, DC's political class
is running all over town through every CVS looking for
emodium A D because they're shitting themselves right now. They're
in a lot of trouble. There's gonna be people in
a lot of trouble, Ronnie, and and you know, I'm
gonna go back to your background and your experience in
(03:41):
the Intel community and serving government. You take an oath, right,
You take an oath when you serve, and when you break.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That oath, you know that that you know a crime
or treason.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Some people say what happened to President Trump during his
first administration was treason or treason.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Us because that was a saw cool attempt.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Everything they did in the four years after from twenty
twenty to twenty or twenty twenty one to twenty twenty
four was political persecution.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Talk to those I mean, is this is this prison?
Do people? Are people going to go to prison?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It is very hard unless there is direct Unless there
is direct evidence email, text messages like that, they get
in orders from Obama, who was most likely the power
(04:39):
behind the shadows, I mean, the pop up master of Biden.
Unless I was going to get this guy because we
hate him. Unless there is something like that, it's unlikely
that they will go. They will go to jail. As such,
this is what happened. Let me tell you my theory here.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Because that's what that so your background, that's what you do, right,
you theorize.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I mean, I was in in DC for twelve years
and many more years before that than the military, and
I was over there. I was in the agency as
a contractor, as a as a staff person. I went
many times to the as Howard Building, to the National
Security Council Building over there for inter agency meetings. I
(05:31):
was many years of the Pentagon on holand security. I
was a contractor at the CIA, contractor at I know
the environment, and this is what I think it happened.
What I think happened is from wins the election. In
twenty sixteen and the whole establishment of d C that
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had become completely center left, completely leftist, completely proa. Remember
eight years of Obama, and during those eight years, Obama
solidified his base, his foundation. He promotes special agents in
the FBI, he promote people and DJ in the Pentagon.
He promoted I mean the whole culture. I mean Obama
(06:17):
was eight years promoting this leftist culture in a city
that voted like ninety two percent for so tell me.
So what happened is November twenty sixteen comes from wins
the elections and they are in shock. They are like,
(06:38):
what the heck happened? That the whole foundation of the
whole establishment is shaking. I mean, they don't know what
to do. And this is what I believe it happened.
Obama calls everybody he's loyalists, I mean from the CIA, Brandon,
and he calls Commy, and he called his Pentagon people
and hey, let's do something.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
By the way, Brennan is the ultimate piece of shit, right,
I mean, I'm sorry, brother, but man, that's the kind
of guy you would love the punch right in the
fucking face, right, I mean, what a piece of shit.
I'm sorry. Maybe he was your former boss. I doubt
you have a special place in your art for him.
I think you know, But U man, I gotta call
(07:21):
it like it is, my friend, I gotta call it
like you know.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I tell you that there are snakes and backstubvers and
and again. For eight years, Obama was solidified in this
left wing culture, this politically correct culture, this uh inclusion
and diversity inclusion culture, this I mean cultural Marxist culture
into all of d C. And in that November Obama
(07:48):
calls an emergency meeting the day after, a couple of
days after the election, and let's do something. I think
there are sources that say it was almost like this
or like this. He calls his team of of of
the swamp, I mean, the owners of the swamp at
the time. Let's do something to stop trum. These are
(08:10):
my orders. We need to sabb attention, we need to
backstab him, we need to to do something. Let's want
to use your power now and in the future. Those
of you who will remain, like call me, those of
you that will remain to destroy Trump. I think Obama,
this is my opinion. Obama gave them the order to
(08:31):
destroy Trump immediately came this report and Russian interference, the
Russia gabs, all the conspiracy theories, all these are trong
one because of Rosia, Russia, Rossia. All these BS hosts
this nonsense. And the people who stay after Obama leave
office like call me and all these backstarvers in d
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o J in the top, in the top echelons.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Of the vis a, right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, the Italiens community, they all begin go to work
to destroy Trump.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So so back to my question, how can you not
find evidence to put some of these people in prison?
And Okay, and let's say this, so if we find
evidence that would be treason, wouldn't it or no?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
This is the deal. I mean, you know, I know
every honest journalist in the United States that is honest
and actually everybody in the United States with a normal
intelligence that is over five years old, knows that these
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snakes they went after Tromp because of political reasons, because
they hate Trump, because of their left wing ideology. We
all know that Smith, the Russia, Gay, the paper game,
the rating model, all that nonsense. We all know that
the problem is that is very hard to prove in
(10:08):
a core because what they are gonna say, no, I
was just doing my duty. I was just followed an
investigative leave. I was following the lead of it because
of the law. And if they see that they are
that is not I mean that that's not flying. Then
I was just following orders. I was following orders. I'm
following orders and uh, the president order and the best
(10:32):
president order. And you see, they will blame each other
and they will say that they were just doing their job.
But yes, it's got to stop somewhere.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I mean, somebody's got to be responsible for it, right
or you think you think that's.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
The White House? By then Obama, who is the most
likely who was the force behind Biden that the real
the real president was h okay. But but all these
people will they will defend themselves, say no, you don't
have everything that I was acting with political like Jack's meath.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I mean, you've been You've been in the Intel committy
for a long time, including the c I, A and
and and others.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You know how that game is played.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You know it's very very difficult, and you're confirming that
right now that's going to be very difficult to put
somebody in prison. But with that said, Cash and Dan
are going to be able to clean it up.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Oh yes, yes, Because one thing is to prove something
in court. That's the hard part. To prove intention unless
there is a what's up or a message or a test.
Hey yeah, let's going to f this this son of
a kid. Okay, unless there is something like that or
(11:44):
or or a message. And these people is not stupid.
I mean sometimes they are, but they're not really stupid.
Every day they're not going to put it on app
or a text or anything like that, or an email
that that that is like that. They're going to have
a secret meeting with all the cellphones off in the
y house and the skiff where where they can talk freely.
That's what they're going to do. So it's be very hard.
(12:06):
But one thing is to prove something in court the
real intention of that investigation of Russia Gate, of paper gate,
of the mad Lago raid. Another thing is common sense.
And what Cashpitel have to do is okay, you agent,
So so you participated on this uh made Lago team
(12:32):
and you were the right hand of Jack Smith, right, yes, sir,
right what and you wrote this declarations where you think
that those documents were like illegal, right, and you suggested
here in this email to take it over and to
and to the charges and right, yes, sir, okay, good,
thank you for your for telling letting me know. Fire
(12:53):
you're out of here, and actually you're a band from
the federal government for for your clearance is revoke. That
is something that Trump can do. That's something that Cash
Battel can do. That's something that we all know that
that's the truth. We will know why they did it
because they are all part of this swam.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So is it is it considered a win? Ron?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Is it considered a win if we can't put anybody
in prison, but at least we get them fired and
out of the system.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Oh yes, And he can always come back with another
administration though, right.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
No, I mean you can take away the clearance, you
can ban them from the federal government, you can fire them.
I mean there are many things. It will take a
lot of effort. It's not impossible, but it will take
a lot of effort. God forbid that four years for
now I left win news or somebody wins that. It
(13:51):
might take some effort, but they can put them back.
But right now Trump can fire them and band them
and take a where the clearances and hopefully bands will
win in twenty twenty four, sorry, twenty three eight, and
this will continue and continue because this guy doesn't desert.
These people don't deserve to be there. They were part
(14:14):
of this swamp machine, these deep state machine swamp that
is very powerful, and they were in the middle of it,
rolling with it, going with the floor.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And the other thing is, you know, I'm going through
Twitter right now because there's so much happening. But is
it considered a win? Is it considered a win to
clean it up and not be able to arrest anybody?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Of course it's a win. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So Trump did pull the clearance off of Branding and
all those guys the whatever it was forty one intelligence
officers or analysts or whatever that sign that letter about
Hunter Biden's laptop.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Right, so he killed their clearance.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
They should not be able to be working for a
defense contractor or anybody else right.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Now, right without the clearance. Not it's impossible, not, I mean,
I mean, uh, once there lost their clearance, they cannot
work in any of those national security uh. Tron also
banned them from the federal government in the whole for life, right,
I mean, they banned He banned them from from the
(15:28):
federal government, so they are not I mean, I understand
I heard a rumor. I don't know if it's true
or not. He banned them from entering federal buildings. So
you can tell me that is a very powerful win.
All these appointees that Biden left over there, including the
work Chief of Staff, Chairman of the Chairman of the
(15:54):
Joint Chief Millie, he also banned him, including all of
these upper and he cleaned house listen troum. The first
time he came into power back in January twenty seventeen,
he was very chy. He was very chy in the
sense they know the system, he was learning it. He
(16:19):
was just paying attention, getting ad bys and the people
he was getting a bye. Some were good and some
were not good, and some were even part of the.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, there are a whole bunch of establishment Republicans, right,
part of that zep sake crap. Right.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yes, So that was the first time. That's why he
didn't do But now he had four years of watching
whatever disaster was happening in the sea. All his enemies
came forward to try to destroy him with ax Meith
and all this nonsense, and the course in George in
(17:00):
New York and all this d O J. So he
paid attention and he took note. This is the guy
who take people. This is the FBI people, This is
the Pentagon people who are talking BS now, who are uh,
who are appointments based on their gender and whatever? This
(17:21):
is the people who is talking about me. He paid
attention for four long years. Note and now in those
four years he created a team of loyalists, no ship,
no BS, people that will go straight to the point.
And that's why we have seen this last month furious
from going straight to the point with a list of
(17:44):
to do, do don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, And
that's why we have seen this social aggressivity. I mean,
he just fired the top military person of the United
States just a few days ago.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Hey, what do you think about Rapus?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I think he was okay because he was loyal in
the first in the first in the first administration, his
first term, so he was loyal. I don't know how
good he is as far as the energy, the power
of say Cash Patel or or TRUSI gowered that I
(18:22):
haven't seen that kind of energy on him, or that
kind of extreme assertive personality but loyal, and he knows,
he knew he learned something about intelligence because.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He was a house Yeah, he was a chair for
the House.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
And so now he's going to be to do what
Cashpitel is doing in the FBI. He's going to do
at the c I, and hopefully he will do because
the CI is also up to the neck, and I
can tell you it's up to the neck in the
same technology sense, mentality mentality. The Trauma and his supporter
(18:58):
are Walmart bad smelling a Walmart customer. It's the same, uh,
the same depicable mentality towards Tromp and his supporters. And
I don't know if you saw Tom Hanks in Saturn
My life is that that's what the earl it Is
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think of us. That's what the earl it Is think
of Trauma and his supporters. That that's the how the
depies us, I mean, how they look at us.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They're they you know, they're they're discussing people, man, that's
what they are. And a lot of the c I,
which turns the worse CIA or the Bureau, I'm sorry,
which turns worse and worse shape the bureau or the agency.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
The FBI, because the FBI. Let me tell you what happened.
People need to understand this, right.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's why having you on this show, my friend, is
so important.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yes, listen.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
If I am in the FBI, actually I work in
the field, Okay, I wore in one of the field offices,
a special agent in charge, a sack is charge. Okay,
the field office in Miami, the field office in Philadelphia,
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the field office in San Francisco, whatever. But I don't
want to stay there. I want to become a sack myself.
Most important, I want to go to d C. This
is where the big boys are. This is where the
big headquarters are. This is the national command. I don't
want to be mobile anymore, a little rock anymore. I
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want to go to d C. So I pay attention
to the political leaning of the White House. What makes
the White House smiling? What likes the White House? And
d O J. Well, I'm going to align myself with them. Oh,
and they're looking for our three means right wing, extreme
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means and white suprema season whatever. And if I am
in Richmond, I don't want to be in Richmond. If
I in the NBI, so what I do to get
my promotion? Oh, there are Catholic Latin mass people here
in Richmond. I target them. I'm going to open an
investigation on that. Why, because they are right? We next
(21:26):
remiss because I.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Was watching the I was I was watching the hearing
yesterday Ronnie where they had Mary Garland in there, and
he says, you guys had swat teams, swat teams for these,
you know, Catholic parents, you know, and you know rated them.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You brought in charges, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Those areies and.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And the case was dismissed by a grand jury in
under an hour, in under an hour.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So do you think that kind kind of use of.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Resources, power, fire power was necessary to grab some Catholic parents.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Absolutely not, This is nonsense.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
But that was that That was to scare the ship
out of people and intimidate people right against the government.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
This is what they will do that those FBI agents
will do to get promoted, to get invited to a position,
a promotion in Washington, d C. I'm gonna kneel to
the White House, to the buy the White House and
do investigations and actions in accordance with the White House ideology.
So these guys are very conservative, This guy are very
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I mean very conservative, betty social conservative. I'm gonna target
them because that is going to that's gonna be a
good uh deed to the White House.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Right, So now I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So now I'm gonna go back and the parents that
that go to the school board to say, I don't
want these kind of books in my key. I don't
want that kind of book. Oh those are again why souprenacists?
They are terrorists, not because they are not, because of
course not, that's nonsense. But that would make happy the
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people indja, that would make happy the people at the
White House. And I want to be promoted. I don't
want to be at Yes thirteen anymore. Now I want
to be at Yes fourteen. If I'm at y S fifteen,
I want to be an sees. I want to buy
me to d C. And when they say that I
persecute many terrorist parents because they don't like this book
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or that book in their kindergarten class, they would say, oh,
that's one of ours. He is one of ours. We
need to promote him. We need to bring him to Washington,
d C. So that is the big problem of the
FBI that they were for eight years under Obama and
four years underbiding pledging too the political ideology of the
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White House. They were pleasing the political ideology.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Okay, but you know, going back to that then then
it's pretty obvious what they were doing, right, It's very obvious.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
It's obvious.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
That's what everybody, And like you said, okay, maybe we
don't have text message it says, okay, let's go fuck
with these people, you know, because it's going to get
me a promotion.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But to anybody that has you know, basic common sense
can figure it out.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
But I said that, you know, I know every honest
person knows. Everybody Louise five years old, knows the truth.
It's hard to prove in court the intention, the intent
of the person, but we all know what the this
is is about. They want to kneel to Biden.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And the intelligence community is very smart and that's what
they do. They play in shadows, cloak and dagger games
and they know how to not get caught.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So it's going to be very different, difficult to get
these guys at least, you know, to prosecute.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
But they can be clean. They can be clean, and
that's why Cashell is over there to clean house.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, but I think You know, a lot of people
are gonna be very disappointed tonight when they hear this podcast, Ronnie,
because I think the base, the MAGA base, the make
them you know, America first policy base. Uh really would
like to see Adam shift and pieces of ship like
that call me McCabe's stroke, you know, put in prison
or at least handcuffed for a fucking hour, you know.
(25:29):
And uh and and what you're telling us is that
it's probably not gonna happen. And that's disappointing to everybody.
But I guess you got to look at it on
the bright side. We're gonna get rid of that guardment.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Right. The chances are small, they're they're not big, but
if they are smart and is very very smart, it
can be done. For example, or even though that people
that that buy them gave them.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We gotta get in there, brother, we got to get
in there. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Well, let's see. But even that people that by then
gave them a pre emptive pardon because he knew that
that that by that throng cashpitel will go after them.
They also can't go down. One example, let's say that
you do an investigation and you get all the emails,
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all the text messages or all the grasspps or all
that Okay, testimony people that terms. I mean again, I
give testimony and you bring she or you could bring
whatever on their oath. You so pat at them. You
bring them on their oath, okay, and and you ask
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them on their oath? Did you do this because of that?
Why did you do that was the reason you did it? Oh?
I did it because I was doing the law. I
was following the law I was doing. You didn't do
it because any other reason. No, of course, not just
because I was in the law. Well, we have here
three of you Davids, four emails and four texted what
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you said. You did it because you hate the guy,
because he's a depicable, because he's a whatever, and because
he's a Trump supporter. Then you got them. You got
them for lying on their oath, so you have for
evidence against their their testimony. So, yes, there are ways.
(27:25):
They are not easy ways, but it's possible. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I was hoping that, you know, they would start issuing
the rest warrants and uh and all kinds of fun
stuff tomorrow morning and we'd see Adam Shift and Nancy
Pelosi and you know, call me and McCabe, you know,
being operated and handcuffed. But I guess you're telling me
it's not going to happen tomorrow at least, right, they
don't take some time.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Maybe that easy, but it can't happen. It can't happen.
That's why they are there to clean house and bring
the truth. And all those secret documents of Jack Smith
and those text messages and internal emails from the agency,
they will come out. They will come out, and people
will see the corruption. Even if they don't go to jail,
(28:10):
they will see their corruption from the inside.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And we saw that with Peter Stroke right and his
text messages with his girlfriend, right, with his with with
the woman he had, Melly.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
That's Melly Walmart Throm supporters of course.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
And you know they didn't go to prison. On the contrary,
they just want a major payout. I don't know how
many millions of dollars because they got supposedly wrongfully terminated,
you know, and and they walked away with I can't remember,
it was like three or five million bucks apiece or something,
which is it's just ridiculous, man, David. Were we on
commercial Do we have to take a commercial break?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
All right, let's go. We'll be right back, Ronnie. We
got to go give Mike Lindell his due.
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promo code? Igh those big discounts, Ronnie. So we gotta
get you into the FBI. I think cash and uh
and Dan would love to have you. I'm gonna make
sure that uh that uh that that that Dan has
your resume after after we get off of the air.
(30:18):
But you gotta promise me one thing, man, you gotta
go clean house and fucking arrests under the son of
a bitches man because uh, come on, everybody's excited and
now you're like pouring cold water on our party telling
us that nobody's gonna go to prison.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Come on, listen, listen, I am excited, okay, because uh
we see what what trup have done in a month
is more that than that that we can imagine any
president will do in in a year. Okay, In this month,
he put everybody on on place. I mean he put
(30:53):
Lucy Garvern, an amazing woman, extraordinary woman, courageous, smart, beautiful
lieutenant in the US Army Reserve deployments to Iraq. He
put her over there in a d n I. He
put Cash Partel that is a firebrand on the on
the FBI. And now Dan also in the FBI. He
(31:15):
put all his people over there and head in the
o D. So it's amazing what he's doing. And these
people are real firebrands, all of them. They are extraordinary people,
extraordinary talented, and we need to support that action. I mean,
but what he have done is amazing in just one
(31:36):
short month, and we're all excited. What these people is
going to do during the next year, during the next
two years, three years, I'm sure it's going to be
nothing but amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't think we've had a president do as much
as Donald Trump has done in a month, let alone,
you know, four years. I mean, it's it's fantastic. You know,
we we We've talked about Russia.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And Ukraine a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I think a lot of people don't really understand the
dynamics of Russian Ukraine. I know that's an area of
expertise for you. Can you explain it to people? Because
people are anti the Ukraine thing because of the money.
Well let's not give them money, but really, what's behind
the war and why is Trump pretty much telling Zelenski
(32:19):
to go fuck himself?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
And you know it's I'll let you.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Why don't you give a dissertation here because I don't
think people really understand the whole thing outside of Russian
invented in Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You know, it is complex. The war in Ukraine, you know,
that is the issue. It's not the white and black situation.
I mean scenario that we have been hearing from the
Biden administration. And this is the deal. I'm not going
into detailing through the whole thing, but this is the
deal of people who who knows for sure that the
(33:00):
Biden administration and all the minions of the Biden administration
bill said nonsense during years about Trump and all the
media that said fake news and nonsense about Trump, that
(33:22):
same people suddenly said that everything that Biden was saying
about Ukraine and everything that the media was saying about
Ukraine was the truth. There was like a suddenly miraculous conversion.
(33:43):
I mean, whenever this fake media left with media talk
about Trump is nonsense, his face news, fake news. But
when they talk about that's the truth, it's the gospel.
That is what happened. When Biden said propaganda against Trump,
the laptop whatever, Russia Gate, the white supremacist all that stuff,
(34:06):
oh that's fake news, that's nonsense. But when Biden says
something about Ukraine. Oh, that is the truth. Of course,
President Biden is saying the truth about Ukraine. So that
is the great contradiction in which many Republicans felt, and
they don't even realize that they are following a great contradiction. Okay,
(34:28):
that is the party. Listen, basically, just to go very
to the basics. This war is a very complex war.
It's not white and black like the press, like the media,
like the Biden regime. I've been telling us for the
last four years, Okay, for the last three years. It's
not as simple as that. In Ukraine, what we have
(34:51):
is a civil war. Basically, it's a civil war between
the Ukrainians from the south and the east and the
Ukrainian on the north and the west. They are completely
different people, completely different ideology, ethnic group, religion, language, everything
(35:12):
is completely different. You have and this is the reason why.
Because Ukraine is a Frankenstein country. It's a country created
of pieces of many countries, of Hungary, of Romania, of
Poland that link. I mean there was placed into one
(35:32):
big country. But in reality it is a Frankenstein country.
The people from the north and the west of Ukraine
there are mostly Polish people. They hate Russia. They don't
speak Russia, they do not belong to the Russian Orthodox Church.
They see themselves as Polish, they see themselves as Hungarians.
(35:53):
They want to be with Europe, they want to be
with the European Union. They don't have family in Russia.
They don't have anyone in Russia. They don't care about Russia.
The people from the south and the east, they are Ukrainians,
but they speak Russian, they have family in Russia. They
see themselves as Russians. They belong to the Russian Orthodox Church,
(36:16):
I mean loyal to to Moscow. So they is a
completely different two countries piece on one. And the administration
have been doing is supporting strictly the people from the
north and the west against the people from the south
and the east. And what Rossia have been doing is
supporting the people from the south and they is that
(36:37):
are the Ukrainians. So you have a very big civil
war that began actually in twenty fourteen, that took over,
I mean it took process in twenty twenty two. And
this is what the people don't understand. You cannot and
let me be very clear about this, you cannot defeat
a nuclear super power with thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons.
(37:03):
Who is fighting a critical existential war? How do you
do that? You don't, You can't. And the people that
on the globalist they don't understand that. Okay, it's true.
The United States left Vietnam nineteen seventy five, and the
(37:23):
United States is a nuclear superpower. True, but Vietnam was
not a critical existential war for the United States. The
Soviet Union left Afghanistan, that's true in the nineteen eighty nine,
but Afghanistan was not a critical existential war for the
(37:45):
Soviet Union. Germany lost an existential critical war World War Two,
the Nazi regime. They lost, Okay, but they were not
a nuclear superpower. And you are a nuclear superpower with
thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons and hypersonic missiles and
(38:07):
space glider that go fifteen times the speed of sound,
and you are fighting existential critical war. You cannot lose.
That's what the neoplans don't understand. But Donald Trump understands that.
That is why Donald Trump is speaking to Putting and
bringing the Russian to Saudi Arabia to react Marco and
(38:31):
sending Marco Ruy over there to talk to them. Because
he understands that these war the only way to solve
this thing is by negotiation, and the escalating is this
thing is escalating, escalating, escalating, and escalating then is going
to be terrible for the work. We were not about
to back down in nineteen sixty two when the Soviet
(38:54):
Union put missiles in Cuba because that was an existential,
critical thread to the United States. Well, it's the same
thing with Rossia. Now, they are not going to back down. Now.
It's impossible to defeat and nuclear superpower when they are
fighting a critical existential war. Trump knows that. And now
(39:15):
Trump is trying to escalate and is trying to get
to a deal to get a negotiation stease of this war.
And after that, Trump wants to engage Rossia and the
economic development, gas, tenium rare airs, rod mineral et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. But then Neoncans are trying to
sabotage that an all the Democratic Party, one hundred percent
(39:38):
of the Democratic Party is trying to sabotage and stop that.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Wow, that was amazing, Uh, dude, That's why we need
you on the show to explain it that way, because
not everybody understands, right.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
And and you know the other thing is, you know,
trying to.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Include Ukraine and NATO that that was an agreement that
was already on the table, right, Also trying to put
fucking nukes, you know, right up on the border on
on on on on Russia. There's like you said, there
is no way they're going to allow that to happen.
Like there is no way we're going to allow nuclear
warheads to be in Cuba.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
It's the same crap.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Right, What are we gonna do? What did the United
States is gonna do? If Mexico signs a pack, a
military pack with Russia and China and they agree to
have a mutual defense packed with Russia and China and
deploy hundreds of thousands of soldiers in northern Mexico in
(40:37):
the border with California, San Diego, very close to San
Diego or very close to Texas over there, what are
we gonna do? And by the way, they're gonna put
missiles over there, pointing to the United States, what are
we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
We're gonna invade them.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
You need to understand the world. You need to put
yourself in the choice of your foes to put yourself
in the choice of your opponent, so you can understand
what's going on from their viewpoint, from their perspective. And
this is what the neocons don't understand. That what the
Democrats don't do not understand, and this is what the
globalists don't understand. Trump knows it. And that's why Trump
(41:14):
is completely turning around the Biden are nonsensical globalist, neoconists policies,
and he's trying to get Rochia to sit down and
end this war with a negotiational agreement before it's too late.
Because if it's too late, brother, not even you are mere.
We're not going to be here anymore. I'm telling you,
(41:35):
if it's so late.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
So what do the neo cons want? I mean, they
can't want, they can't want to stand off right what
they want?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Listen? Listen again, so people understand this war was about
to end. One month after Rosia invaded Ukraine in March
of twenty twenty two, okay, about four weeks, four weeks
after the one began. There was a document to end
(42:10):
the war that Ukraine and Russia signed already in the draft,
the first draft was already signed in Turkey. They were
negotiating in Turkey, in Istanbul. They were over there and
they were negotiating the end of the war. In March
of twenty twenty two. Then suddenly Boris Johnson, a New Yorkon,
(42:37):
completely globalist New Orkon equivalent of what we call him
a rhino Seuto conservative. I means the conservative, he I
mean he's a any given Mitt Robney. Let's call it away.
So Bodis Johnson, Prime Minister of the UK, flies to Kiev,
(43:02):
meet with Selenski that already signed the draft, and say, hey,
stop it, no more negotiations. Get your team out of Turkey,
get them out of Stumbul, get them out. People were
already signed the first draft. No no, no, no, no, no
first draft, no second draft, nothing. Get out of there,
Get out of Turkey. Continue with the war. We're gonna
(43:24):
give you hundreds of thousands of billions of dollars. We're
gonna give you everything, intelligence, missile planes, submarines, whatever, We're
gonna give you everything. You you have to fight until
the last Ukrainian and you will see that you will.
We will defeat Rosa together and Celenski bought that. And
(43:44):
after that we know what we have been more than
a million people is dead and Ukraine is destroyed, the
plan of Boddis Johnson, the New York globalist right now,
the equivalent of the uk and obviously the plan of Biden,
who was his boss organizing everything. The plan was, let's
(44:04):
gonna inflict damage and Russia. Let's gonna kill hundreds of
thousands of Russian soldiers, and let's gonna destroy the Russian
economy with the sanctions. And then the people of Russia
will raise against Pudding and they will take him over.
And once they take him out by the revolution, a coup, whatever,
(44:26):
then we can break Russia into little countries, into twelve, fourteen,
thirteen little countries, and then those little countries we will
be able to control, We will be able to do
be the pupet master of those little countries. So that
is the secret plan of buy them of Boris Johnson,
(44:46):
mccron et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And they're using
celens Ki. They decided in twenty twenty two to use
a Lenki and the Ukrainian people with the one that
is offering the most for a company, that plant. That
is the plan of the New yorkos. That's the plan
of the global that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
We got to go to a commercial break real quick,
and we're gonna be right back.
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to believe that that would work?
Speaker 4 (46:26):
I mean that the thing is when when you are
ideology blinds your logic, and when your ideology your fanaticism
blinds your critical thinking, they can't believe anything. I mean, remember,
we live in the world of the insane. Yeah. If
I want to declare myself whatever, giff, Yeah, if I
(46:51):
declare myself a dog, I'm a dog, I mean whatever.
So we live in in the time of complete insanity
and in the mentality of these news of this global
is Oh, that sounds like a good plan to be
I mean, it's absurd. It goes against reality, it goes
against the facts, it goes against history, it goes against
military science, it goes against political science. But the people
(47:13):
don't believe in any of that. They just go by
there by by by their feeling. By the way, it's just.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Gotting to be a lot of money involved. Run. I mean,
you played in that, in that realm and that environment.
It's not just ideology. I think it's ideology to some
dream backs.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Right, of course. I mean they wanted the power. They
want to see Rocha destroyed. They want to see Russia
breaking down and then do what many Oli guards and
many people did in the nighting that it was stealing
all the gas, all the oil that Russia has, all
the meaning, and all the titanium. Because right now Putting
controls that. But in their mind, if they destroy Putting,
(47:51):
they break down Russia into twelve different little countries republics, uh,
then they can go and steal it again. So yeah,
it's a lot of money and a lot of power.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yes, of course, that's crazy, bro.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I mean, so we're going through all this shit, We're
spending hundreds of millions of dollars or billions.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Everything will have been stopped in March of twenty twenty
two in Turkey.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
That's crazy, and all because of the Rhinos, the neocons,
the establishment on both sides are more interested in accumulating
power and accumulating wealth than what's the right thing to do.
I hope man that the cash and Ratcliffe and and
and and Bongino and and we'll see and Pam Bondi right,
(48:41):
and Tulsi right, all those that entire team because the
dream Team can come in and kind of fix this,
you know, when we can't, you know, say enough about
Marco as well. I think Marco is in his natural
role as Secretary of State.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
He's doing a very good job. Let me tell you,
let me tell you he's doing took me by surprise.
He's doing a very good job. He's doing he's following
the marching orders of Trump. He's doing well. Marco is
doing very well.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah. I think everybody's pretty impressed with him.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I haven't heard anybody, not even the left, you know,
criticize Rubio. And when uh and and when Marco goes
out there and he's talking on the media. You know,
he was always articulate, he's always smart. I mean, he
was Speaker of the House here in Florida. He's a lawyer,
you know, ran for you a Senate, et cetera. So
he's you know, he's sharp, so very well.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
He's following trump directive. He's understanding what Trump wants to
to to achieve. So so I think Marco Ruby is
doing very well. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
How do you see this thing coming to an end?
The Russia Ukraine situation? Because I saw the so look
before we do that. I'm sorry Germany what happened in Germany.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
It's a complete disaster.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Right, but the conservatives one, right, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
It's a complete disaster. Mid Drobbney one, Mid Robney one.
I mean so what uh? The old guy in the Senator,
the old guy that that is both in against Tuli.
What's his name? The guy from Kentucky, McConnell, McConnell, mcconnough one.
(50:23):
What okay Mith Robney one, mcconne one. So what okay? Listen,
it's a complete disaster for two reasons. Number one, First
of all, alternative for Doglin that is a is not
a right wing or no Nazi party as bs. They
are now nazi like like drum is white supremacy and
(50:49):
it's nonsense. Okay, it's absolutely nons The press is a
creation of the media, okay. The leader is actually is
a libertarian self declared libertan lesbian, I mean Alice Window,
she's a self declared libertarian lesbian.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
They're not a right wingers national and that, but they're yes,
they're right wing libertarians, let's call it that way. They
got twenty percent of the boat and they become the numbers.
The number two party. So it's great. But the thing is,
at the same time they led the CityU win. So
(51:30):
that's terrible, and and and and the and the CDU
have lost every single inch of conservative they had in
the last ten fifteen years. They have lost everything. The
CD government counselor Angela America who opened the gates of
(51:52):
Europe two million immigrants, have nothing to do with European culture,
have nothing to do with European headed and with European
uh mentality. They left them in I mean uh. And
and among those a lot of extremists, a lot of radicals,
(52:12):
a lot of terrories, a lot of people with the
ghetto mentality that doesn't want to integrate themselves into the society.
Nothing to do like, for example, with the Indian doctor
that we have here in the United States, that they
come from India and suddenly they integrate in the society
and they become doctors and they become I mean very productive.
(52:34):
Part of the nothing to do with that. He opened
the gate, I mean not opened the gates to two
million people. And that was Artherer America from the CDU,
and they everything that conservative the city.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
You sided with the socials. That's what are anxiety.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
That's what I'm telling you. Rodney won the president. I
mean Rodney won the counselor of Germany. Okay, that's not
a good idea.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah, he's a fucking no, no backbone piece of ship. Rightly,
and you heard and you heard his commentary right that
he said, you know, against Trump, we have to figure
out that we have to separate ourselves from the United
States of America going forward, and.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
That Trump is an extremist radical and that trum is
uh doing business with with victor dictators, and he bought
all the BS propaganda bs of the left wing media.
There is no difference between the socialists and the so
(53:41):
called c d U. There is no difference. There is
only the letters of the party's the ideology, the objectives
are the same. And they hate the Alternative for Torsal party,
and they hate Trump, and they hate all of us,
all of sup borders, and they are going to continue
(54:01):
with the buy the agenda. They're going to continue with
the stories agenda. They're going to continue with the globalist agenda.
And this guy is even worse than Shows, because Shows
at least knew that if you poke a bear very hard,
the bear is going to slap you back. Okay, this
(54:22):
guy doesn't understand this thing. He is a furious niokon,
a furious globalist, and he's already talking about continuing to
the end to the last Ukrainian They were in Ukraine
without the United States.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, good luck with that. I mean, don't get smashed.
I mean, don't get smashed.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
But that's his mentality, that's his promise, his campaign promise.
So he's a complete disaster in Germany. And I'm very
sorry because I love Germany. I live over there for
five years. I have many friends in Germany, and I
love the beauty of the country, I love the people.
But I'm very sorry for this tragic for Germany. That
the alternative for doors and only got twenty person is
(55:04):
a good result for them, but obviously it's far, far,
far in from being the great result that we wanted.
And now this guy Mers is coming to destroy the
country and even worse. Not only he will continue with
the war, not only he will attack Trump and attack
the United States, but he also will continue destroying the
(55:26):
economy of Germany because it's the gas, the lack of
Russian gas, and the sanctions against Russia. But he's destroying
the German economy and that's why they are completely I
mean they're in a paralysis for the last two three years.
The German economy is going down, and this guy is
going to continue to say self inflicted terrible policies in other.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
Words, are in the toilet. During the share Romania? What's
going on? What's going on in Romania? They canceled an election.
What's going to happen over there?
Speaker 4 (56:00):
That's in Romania?
Speaker 2 (56:01):
Is that even more complicated? It is?
Speaker 4 (56:04):
Uh, it's very simple. The the guy that the European Union,
the global did not like. They don't want it. They
want he won, so they canceled the elections.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Mhmm.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
You don't like who wins, just canceled the elections. Problems solved,
you don't have to deal. I mean they try to
do something like that with the with Trump. Remember, we
don't like him, he don't want we don't want him
to win the election. I want to be in jail.
Very similar, right, But are they.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Gonna are they calling for new elections or what's gonna
happen over there?
Speaker 4 (56:40):
They are deciding to do new elections. Yes, they're gonna
hopefully do an elections. There are some good people over
there in Romania. There is some some some people that
will try again. But but again, this is the power
of the speech that Vice President Banks gave in Munich.
I mean, that is the beauty. That is the power,
(57:01):
that is the amazing power. Vice President goes over there
to Munich and tell them, listen, I'm not really worried
about Russia. I'm not really worried about China. I'm worried
about you. You are the problem. How dare you put
in England put put this guy on jail because he
was quietly praying outside the clinic. How dare you an
(57:23):
army meat? Shame on you? How dare you put people
around on jail because of a mean TWI? How dare you?
I mean, how dare you you cancel an action because
the guy who won't because you don't like him. That
is a slab on the face. I mean, he's pit
on their face over there, and that's why they're so desperate.
(57:44):
And that's the beauty of that speech of JD. Bands
is a beautiful, amazing speech because basically, when Trump I
mean trum, the candidate says that, oh that that's all
right wing extreming, that we canceled you. We find you.
With any patriotic party in Europe say that, all right,
(58:04):
with the extreme we canceled you. We find you five
thousand dollars fine, actually one month of jail for hate
crank whatever. But now the Vice President of the United
States and the honor guests goes over there and tell
them the same thing in their faces. What are they
gonna do is an egg on the face moment.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah they got they got hammered, so wrapping up, I
know you got to go. Is how does this Ukraine
Russia situation get resolved? Does it get resolved? Can't Trump
do it? We're hearing Zelenski pushing back and attacking Trump,
and Marco Rubio coming out saying, you know, I don't
know what this guy's thinking, but attacking Trump in public
(58:48):
is not a good strategy. And then he's saying that
he's not gonna do this deal for minerals for the
US to pay us back, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Is this so this guy has no intention of peace?
Speaker 1 (59:01):
It's that clear. He wants to fight. He's trying to
engage in the United States against Russia. Since that's not
gonna happen. Now he's telling the United States, fuck you,
I'm gonna continue fighting.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
I have the EU to support me. Take a high,
see you later.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
Listen, the pigeon needs to understand that he's the pigeon
and he cannot attack the child gun. Okay, that's and
that's something that said. So let's still don't understand he's
the pigeon. Okay, he cannot attack the shot gunyah, and
the United States is a shot gun. Okay, he has
(59:37):
the roles inverted. Okay, listen, everything is going to be solved.
Most of it is going to be solved when putting
meats Trump face to face. No, I mean, the ninety
minute fund via phone was great. But once they can
talk to face to face and get to a negotiation
and get to you get this, but please don't get that.
(01:00:00):
I want this, but maybe you cannot get that. When
they get to that point, a lot will be solved,
and then Trump will need to force that agreement into
praying the most likely siless he would say, no, he
still has the ear I mean of macrum or now
Mars in Germany. That is going to be a lot
(01:00:22):
worse than shows as former starmer in in the UK. Okay,
so what is going to happen. Trum most likely will
get to an agreement with Trump, I mean with a pudding.
They will put this piece plan. Celeski will believe these
three globalists, and he will continue the war without Trump
(01:00:45):
until reality explodes in his face and he finds out
that he cannot do it without Trump and with the
United States, and after six months of bitters with UH
suffering and an egg on his face, it will come
back to drave Okay, you were right. Let's got to
implement the piece plan, because yeah, you do a we
(01:01:06):
from the.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
You don't think there's more there right about, you know,
the whole bide and corruption. You saw Elon Musk say
that there is evidence that a lot of the money
that went to Ukraine came back to politicians in the US.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
You don't think.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
That's why they're fighting to keep protecting and defending and
supporting Ukraine and zolen Skin.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Oh yes, as part of it, of course, the military
industrial complex got a lot of money. Of this money, Okay,
most of the weapons were already made and sent and
then the military gave the order to the military industrial
(01:01:49):
complex to create more weapons for most billions and billions
and billions of dollars to replace the weapons that were
set and obviously the military industrial complex. Out of those
one hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions
of dollars, he knew how to feed some pockets of politicians,
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of course, packs and advertisements and and different ways and g.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Os and whatnot, right, right, right, of course.
Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
I mean they're not going to do directly, but they
find way, they find ways in which some big chunk
of that thousands of billions of dollars will will we'll
make it back to the politicians that authorize that in
the first place.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
That's amazing Ronaldo, Ladies and gentlemen, he's a stud fall
him on x Ronlado four and that's where we pre
play ball right on x or you on other platforms and.
Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
In YouTube, Ronal Edosa contractor and in x Ronal edoxa contractor,
So please follow me over there, of course.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Fantastic, ron Thank you very much for coming on. It's
always an educational day. When Ronal later was on the show,
thank you very much, my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
We'll see you next week. Yep, all right, excellent, Ahi, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
I hope any kind of doubts on anything from from
Pam Boondi to Cash and Dan Bongino to the FBI
to Ratcliffe and c i A too. Jesus, we've covered
so much. We went into you know, Russia, Ukraine, into Germany, Romania,
back to UK and and and others that are supporting
(01:03:31):
Zelenski and why it's not going to be as easy
as it'll be done tomorrow. But you heard it from
directly from the expert. Uh, there will be a deal.
It will get done, maybe six months, but you know,
it is what it is. Anyways, we'll see tomorrow guys.
Hopefully you enjoyed the show.
Welcome to I jhe going rogue. Today is Monday, February
twenty fourth, and what a Sunday. Amazing Sunday, great news,
probably one of the best news.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I mean, this is going to be epic.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Dan Pontinio, Deputy director for the FBI, let's just cut
to the chase, go directly with Ronald Later, who's joining
us today. Hey, Ronde, was that bad ass?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Or was that badass?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Man?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Holy shay, amazing, it's amazing, great, great news. I mean
then our deputy director cash as a number one of
the director. That's a dream team for the FBI. That
means that means that all the bs that have been
in the FBI for the last at least for years,
(01:11):
but maybe for a lot more.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, I think since before twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, from before all this culture over there, left wing
rhino culture, I mean politically correct culture is going away.
I mean they're going to clean the house over there.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah. Man, I think it's epic. I think it's going
to be epic.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And we have Pambandi at DOJ so she she is
a no bullshit kind of woman and there needs to
be a lot of clean up over that f PI.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think we know this.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know, when we go back to the fifteen sixteen
election and we know the whole Russian collusion crap, the
whole Russian hoax, it all starts there and from.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Before James coming. James Coming is the essence of the
deep state is the essence. I mean, nobody represented what
the deep state is more than former director of the
FBI Comedy because he from the day one, I mean
from the very start, he was against Trump and he
wanted to use his power, his authority inside the FBI,
(02:11):
and all the FBI agents that were with him over
there in the top floor of the FBI, they were all,
that's gonna go to war against trum that's gonna destroy Trump.
Let's gonna sabotage he. That's gonna put it on jail.
That's gonna put in jail everybody with Trump, I mean coming,
he said, immediately the first week, I sent agents to
(02:36):
set up and to trap Lieutenant General Flynn. Yeah, I mean,
so it was amazing for they are the deep state.
That is the classic by the book definition of the
deep state.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, and Camy McCay, Peter Stroke, all those guys.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But they didn't act alone.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Obviously, I think they came, you know, with with orders
wrecking from the White House from President Obama and who
knows who else. But I gotta tell you, you know, talking
to friends in d C. And talking to people I'm
sure you have as well, you know, at the Bureau
and some of the other agencies, especially the Bureau, they're
very excited. I think the general consent is at least
(03:19):
a third, if not half, of Washington, DC's political class
is running all over town through every CVS looking for
emodium A D because they're shitting themselves right now. They're
in a lot of trouble. There's gonna be people in
a lot of trouble, Ronnie, and and you know, I'm
gonna go back to your background and your experience in
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the Intel community and serving government. You take an oath, right,
You take an oath when you serve, and when you break.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That oath, you know that that you know a crime
or treason.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Some people say what happened to President Trump during his
first administration was treason or treason.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Us because that was a saw cool attempt.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Everything they did in the four years after from twenty
twenty to twenty or twenty twenty one to twenty twenty
four was political persecution.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Talk to those I mean, is this is this prison?
Do people? Are people going to go to prison?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
It is very hard unless there is direct Unless there
is direct evidence email, text messages like that, they get
in orders from Obama, who was most likely the power
(04:39):
behind the shadows, I mean, the pop up master of Biden.
Unless I was going to get this guy because we
hate him. Unless there is something like that, it's unlikely
that they will go. They will go to jail. As such,
this is what happened. Let me tell you my theory here.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Because that's what that so your background, that's what you do, right,
you theorize.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I mean, I was in in DC for twelve years
and many more years before that than the military, and
I was over there. I was in the agency as
a contractor, as a as a staff person. I went
many times to the as Howard Building, to the National
Security Council Building over there for inter agency meetings. I
(05:31):
was many years of the Pentagon on holand security. I
was a contractor at the CIA, contractor at I know
the environment, and this is what I think it happened.
What I think happened is from wins the election. In
twenty sixteen and the whole establishment of d C that
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had become completely center left, completely leftist, completely proa. Remember
eight years of Obama, and during those eight years, Obama
solidified his base, his foundation. He promotes special agents in
the FBI, he promote people and DJ in the Pentagon.
He promoted I mean the whole culture. I mean Obama
(06:17):
was eight years promoting this leftist culture in a city
that voted like ninety two percent for so tell me.
So what happened is November twenty sixteen comes from wins
the elections and they are in shock. They are like,
(06:38):
what the heck happened? That the whole foundation of the
whole establishment is shaking. I mean, they don't know what
to do. And this is what I believe it happened.
Obama calls everybody he's loyalists, I mean from the CIA, Brandon,
and he calls Commy, and he called his Pentagon people
and hey, let's do something.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
By the way, Brennan is the ultimate piece of shit, right,
I mean, I'm sorry, brother, but man, that's the kind
of guy you would love the punch right in the
fucking face, right, I mean, what a piece of shit.
I'm sorry. Maybe he was your former boss. I doubt
you have a special place in your art for him.
I think you know, But U man, I gotta call
(07:21):
it like it is, my friend, I gotta call it
like you know.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I tell you that there are snakes and backstubvers and
and again. For eight years, Obama was solidified in this
left wing culture, this politically correct culture, this uh inclusion
and diversity inclusion culture, this I mean cultural Marxist culture
into all of d C. And in that November Obama
(07:48):
calls an emergency meeting the day after, a couple of
days after the election, and let's do something. I think
there are sources that say it was almost like this
or like this. He calls his team of of of
the swamp, I mean, the owners of the swamp at
the time. Let's do something to stop trum. These are
(08:10):
my orders. We need to sabb attention, we need to
backstab him, we need to to do something. Let's want
to use your power now and in the future. Those
of you who will remain, like call me, those of
you that will remain to destroy Trump. I think Obama,
this is my opinion. Obama gave them the order to
(08:31):
destroy Trump immediately came this report and Russian interference, the
Russia gabs, all the conspiracy theories, all these are trong
one because of Rosia, Russia, Rossia. All these BS hosts
this nonsense. And the people who stay after Obama leave
office like call me and all these backstarvers in d
(08:55):
o J in the top, in the top echelons.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Of the vis a, right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, the Italiens community, they all begin go to work
to destroy Trump.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So so back to my question, how can you not
find evidence to put some of these people in prison?
And Okay, and let's say this, so if we find
evidence that would be treason, wouldn't it or no?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
This is the deal. I mean, you know, I know
every honest journalist in the United States that is honest
and actually everybody in the United States with a normal
intelligence that is over five years old, knows that these
(09:44):
snakes they went after Tromp because of political reasons, because
they hate Trump, because of their left wing ideology. We
all know that Smith, the Russia, Gay, the paper game,
the rating model, all that nonsense. We all know that
the problem is that is very hard to prove in
(10:08):
a core because what they are gonna say, no, I
was just doing my duty. I was just followed an
investigative leave. I was following the lead of it because
of the law. And if they see that they are
that is not I mean that that's not flying. Then
I was just following orders. I was following orders. I'm
following orders and uh, the president order and the best
(10:32):
president order. And you see, they will blame each other
and they will say that they were just doing their job.
But yes, it's got to stop somewhere.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I mean, somebody's got to be responsible for it, right
or you think you think that's.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
The White House? By then Obama, who is the most
likely who was the force behind Biden that the real
the real president was h okay. But but all these
people will they will defend themselves, say no, you don't
have everything that I was acting with political like Jack's meath.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I mean, you've been You've been in the Intel committy
for a long time, including the c I, A and
and and others.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You know how that game is played.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You know it's very very difficult, and you're confirming that
right now that's going to be very difficult to put
somebody in prison. But with that said, Cash and Dan
are going to be able to clean it up.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Oh yes, yes, Because one thing is to prove something
in court. That's the hard part. To prove intention unless
there is a what's up or a message or a test.
Hey yeah, let's going to f this this son of
a kid. Okay, unless there is something like that or
(11:44):
or or a message. And these people is not stupid.
I mean sometimes they are, but they're not really stupid.
Every day they're not going to put it on app
or a text or anything like that, or an email
that that that is like that. They're going to have
a secret meeting with all the cellphones off in the
y house and the skiff where where they can talk freely.
That's what they're going to do. So it's be very hard.
(12:06):
But one thing is to prove something in court the
real intention of that investigation of Russia Gate, of paper gate,
of the mad Lago raid. Another thing is common sense.
And what Cashpitel have to do is okay, you agent,
So so you participated on this uh made Lago team
(12:32):
and you were the right hand of Jack Smith, right, yes, sir,
right what and you wrote this declarations where you think
that those documents were like illegal, right, and you suggested
here in this email to take it over and to
and to the charges and right, yes, sir, okay, good,
thank you for your for telling letting me know. Fire
(12:53):
you're out of here, and actually you're a band from
the federal government for for your clearance is revoke. That
is something that Trump can do. That's something that Cash
Battel can do. That's something that we all know that
that's the truth. We will know why they did it
because they are all part of this swam.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So is it is it considered a win? Ron?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Is it considered a win if we can't put anybody
in prison, but at least we get them fired and
out of the system.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Oh yes, And he can always come back with another
administration though, right.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
No, I mean you can take away the clearance, you
can ban them from the federal government, you can fire them.
I mean there are many things. It will take a
lot of effort. It's not impossible, but it will take
a lot of effort. God forbid that four years for
now I left win news or somebody wins that. It
(13:51):
might take some effort, but they can put them back.
But right now Trump can fire them and band them
and take a where the clearances and hopefully bands will
win in twenty twenty four, sorry, twenty three eight, and
this will continue and continue because this guy doesn't desert.
These people don't deserve to be there. They were part
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of this swamp machine, these deep state machine swamp that
is very powerful, and they were in the middle of it,
rolling with it, going with the floor.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And the other thing is, you know, I'm going through
Twitter right now because there's so much happening. But is
it considered a win? Is it considered a win to
clean it up and not be able to arrest anybody?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Of course it's a win. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So Trump did pull the clearance off of Branding and
all those guys the whatever it was forty one intelligence
officers or analysts or whatever that sign that letter about
Hunter Biden's laptop.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Right, so he killed their clearance.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
They should not be able to be working for a
defense contractor or anybody else right.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Now, right without the clearance. Not it's impossible, not, I mean,
I mean, uh, once there lost their clearance, they cannot
work in any of those national security uh. Tron also
banned them from the federal government in the whole for life, right,
I mean, they banned He banned them from from the
(15:28):
federal government, so they are not I mean, I understand
I heard a rumor. I don't know if it's true
or not. He banned them from entering federal buildings. So
you can tell me that is a very powerful win.
All these appointees that Biden left over there, including the
work Chief of Staff, Chairman of the Chairman of the
(15:54):
Joint Chief Millie, he also banned him, including all of
these upper and he cleaned house listen troum. The first
time he came into power back in January twenty seventeen,
he was very chy. He was very chy in the
sense they know the system, he was learning it. He
(16:19):
was just paying attention, getting ad bys and the people
he was getting a bye. Some were good and some
were not good, and some were even part of the.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, there are a whole bunch of establishment Republicans, right,
part of that zep sake crap. Right.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yes, So that was the first time. That's why he
didn't do But now he had four years of watching
whatever disaster was happening in the sea. All his enemies
came forward to try to destroy him with ax Meith
and all this nonsense, and the course in George in
(17:00):
New York and all this d O J. So he
paid attention and he took note. This is the guy
who take people. This is the FBI people, This is
the Pentagon people who are talking BS now, who are uh,
who are appointments based on their gender and whatever? This
(17:21):
is the people who is talking about me. He paid
attention for four long years. Note and now in those
four years he created a team of loyalists, no ship,
no BS, people that will go straight to the point.
And that's why we have seen this last month furious
from going straight to the point with a list of
(17:44):
to do, do don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, And
that's why we have seen this social aggressivity. I mean,
he just fired the top military person of the United
States just a few days ago.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Hey, what do you think about Rapus?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I think he was okay because he was loyal in
the first in the first in the first administration, his
first term, so he was loyal. I don't know how
good he is as far as the energy, the power
of say Cash Patel or or TRUSI gowered that I
(18:22):
haven't seen that kind of energy on him, or that
kind of extreme assertive personality but loyal, and he knows,
he knew he learned something about intelligence because.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He was a house Yeah, he was a chair for
the House.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
And so now he's going to be to do what
Cashpitel is doing in the FBI. He's going to do
at the c I, and hopefully he will do because
the CI is also up to the neck, and I
can tell you it's up to the neck in the
same technology sense, mentality mentality. The Trauma and his supporter
(18:58):
are Walmart bad smelling a Walmart customer. It's the same, uh,
the same depicable mentality towards Tromp and his supporters. And
I don't know if you saw Tom Hanks in Saturn
My life is that that's what the earl it Is
(19:18):
think of us. That's what the earl it Is think
of Trauma and his supporters. That that's the how the
depies us, I mean, how they look at us.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They're they you know, they're they're discussing people, man, that's
what they are. And a lot of the c I,
which turns the worse CIA or the Bureau, I'm sorry,
which turns worse and worse shape the bureau or the agency.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
The FBI, because the FBI. Let me tell you what happened.
People need to understand this, right.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's why having you on this show, my friend, is
so important.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yes, listen.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
If I am in the FBI, actually I work in
the field, Okay, I wore in one of the field offices,
a special agent in charge, a sack is charge. Okay,
the field office in Miami, the field office in Philadelphia,
(20:16):
the field office in San Francisco, whatever. But I don't
want to stay there. I want to become a sack myself.
Most important, I want to go to d C. This
is where the big boys are. This is where the
big headquarters are. This is the national command. I don't
want to be mobile anymore, a little rock anymore. I
(20:41):
want to go to d C. So I pay attention
to the political leaning of the White House. What makes
the White House smiling? What likes the White House? And
d O J. Well, I'm going to align myself with them. Oh,
and they're looking for our three means right wing, extreme
(21:05):
means and white suprema season whatever. And if I am
in Richmond, I don't want to be in Richmond. If
I in the NBI, so what I do to get
my promotion? Oh, there are Catholic Latin mass people here
in Richmond. I target them. I'm going to open an
investigation on that. Why, because they are right? We next
(21:26):
remiss because I.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Was watching the I was I was watching the hearing
yesterday Ronnie where they had Mary Garland in there, and
he says, you guys had swat teams, swat teams for these,
you know, Catholic parents, you know, and you know rated them.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You brought in charges, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Those areies and.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And the case was dismissed by a grand jury in
under an hour, in under an hour.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So do you think that kind kind of use of.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Resources, power, fire power was necessary to grab some Catholic parents.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Absolutely not, This is nonsense.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
But that was that That was to scare the ship
out of people and intimidate people right against the government.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
This is what they will do that those FBI agents
will do to get promoted, to get invited to a position,
a promotion in Washington, d C. I'm gonna kneel to
the White House, to the buy the White House and
do investigations and actions in accordance with the White House ideology.
So these guys are very conservative, This guy are very
(22:40):
I mean very conservative, betty social conservative. I'm gonna target
them because that is going to that's gonna be a
good uh deed to the White House.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Right, So now I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So now I'm gonna go back and the parents that
that go to the school board to say, I don't
want these kind of books in my key. I don't
want that kind of book. Oh those are again why souprenacists?
They are terrorists, not because they are not, because of
course not, that's nonsense. But that would make happy the
(23:14):
people indja, that would make happy the people at the
White House. And I want to be promoted. I don't
want to be at Yes thirteen anymore. Now I want
to be at Yes fourteen. If I'm at y S fifteen,
I want to be an sees. I want to buy
me to d C. And when they say that I
persecute many terrorist parents because they don't like this book
(23:35):
or that book in their kindergarten class, they would say, oh,
that's one of ours. He is one of ours. We
need to promote him. We need to bring him to Washington,
d C. So that is the big problem of the
FBI that they were for eight years under Obama and
four years underbiding pledging too the political ideology of the
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White House. They were pleasing the political ideology.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Okay, but you know, going back to that then then
it's pretty obvious what they were doing, right, It's very obvious.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
It's obvious.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
That's what everybody, And like you said, okay, maybe we
don't have text message it says, okay, let's go fuck
with these people, you know, because it's going to get
me a promotion.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But to anybody that has you know, basic common sense
can figure it out.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
But I said that, you know, I know every honest
person knows. Everybody Louise five years old, knows the truth.
It's hard to prove in court the intention, the intent
of the person, but we all know what the this
is is about. They want to kneel to Biden.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And the intelligence community is very smart and that's what
they do. They play in shadows, cloak and dagger games
and they know how to not get caught.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So it's going to be very different, difficult to get
these guys at least, you know, to prosecute.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
But they can be clean. They can be clean, and
that's why Cashell is over there to clean house.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, but I think You know, a lot of people
are gonna be very disappointed tonight when they hear this podcast, Ronnie,
because I think the base, the MAGA base, the make
them you know, America first policy base. Uh really would
like to see Adam shift and pieces of ship like
that call me McCabe's stroke, you know, put in prison
or at least handcuffed for a fucking hour, you know.
(25:29):
And uh and and what you're telling us is that
it's probably not gonna happen. And that's disappointing to everybody.
But I guess you got to look at it on
the bright side. We're gonna get rid of that guardment.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Right. The chances are small, they're they're not big, but
if they are smart and is very very smart, it
can be done. For example, or even though that people
that that buy them gave them.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We gotta get in there, brother, we got to get
in there. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Well, let's see. But even that people that by then
gave them a pre emptive pardon because he knew that
that that by that throng cashpitel will go after them.
They also can't go down. One example, let's say that
you do an investigation and you get all the emails,
(26:23):
all the text messages or all the grasspps or all
that Okay, testimony people that terms. I mean again, I
give testimony and you bring she or you could bring
whatever on their oath. You so pat at them. You
bring them on their oath, okay, and and you ask
(26:45):
them on their oath? Did you do this because of that?
Why did you do that was the reason you did it? Oh?
I did it because I was doing the law. I
was following the law I was doing. You didn't do
it because any other reason. No, of course, not just
because I was in the law. Well, we have here
three of you Davids, four emails and four texted what
(27:05):
you said. You did it because you hate the guy,
because he's a depicable, because he's a whatever, and because
he's a Trump supporter. Then you got them. You got
them for lying on their oath, so you have for
evidence against their their testimony. So, yes, there are ways.
(27:25):
They are not easy ways, but it's possible. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I was hoping that, you know, they would start issuing
the rest warrants and uh and all kinds of fun
stuff tomorrow morning and we'd see Adam Shift and Nancy
Pelosi and you know, call me and McCabe, you know,
being operated and handcuffed. But I guess you're telling me
it's not going to happen tomorrow at least, right, they
don't take some time.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Maybe that easy, but it can't happen. It can't happen.
That's why they are there to clean house and bring
the truth. And all those secret documents of Jack Smith
and those text messages and internal emails from the agency,
they will come out. They will come out, and people
will see the corruption. Even if they don't go to jail,
(28:10):
they will see their corruption from the inside.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And we saw that with Peter Stroke right and his
text messages with his girlfriend, right, with his with with
the woman he had, Melly.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
That's Melly Walmart Throm supporters of course.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
And you know they didn't go to prison. On the contrary,
they just want a major payout. I don't know how
many millions of dollars because they got supposedly wrongfully terminated,
you know, and and they walked away with I can't remember,
it was like three or five million bucks apiece or something,
which is it's just ridiculous, man, David. Were we on
commercial Do we have to take a commercial break?
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and Dan would love to have you. I'm gonna make
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your resume after after we get off of the air.
(30:18):
But you gotta promise me one thing, man, you gotta
go clean house and fucking arrests under the son of
a bitches man because uh, come on, everybody's excited and
now you're like pouring cold water on our party telling
us that nobody's gonna go to prison.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Come on, listen, listen, I am excited, okay, because uh
we see what what trup have done in a month
is more that than that that we can imagine any
president will do in in a year. Okay, In this month,
he put everybody on on place. I mean he put
(30:53):
Lucy Garvern, an amazing woman, extraordinary woman, courageous, smart, beautiful
lieutenant in the US Army Reserve deployments to Iraq. He
put her over there in a d n I. He
put Cash Partel that is a firebrand on the on
the FBI. And now Dan also in the FBI. He
(31:15):
put all his people over there and head in the
o D. So it's amazing what he's doing. And these
people are real firebrands, all of them. They are extraordinary people,
extraordinary talented, and we need to support that action. I mean,
but what he have done is amazing in just one
(31:36):
short month, and we're all excited. What these people is
going to do during the next year, during the next
two years, three years, I'm sure it's going to be
nothing but amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't think we've had a president do as much
as Donald Trump has done in a month, let alone,
you know, four years. I mean, it's it's fantastic. You know,
we we We've talked about Russia.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And Ukraine a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I think a lot of people don't really understand the
dynamics of Russian Ukraine. I know that's an area of
expertise for you. Can you explain it to people? Because
people are anti the Ukraine thing because of the money.
Well let's not give them money, but really, what's behind
the war and why is Trump pretty much telling Zelenski
(32:19):
to go fuck himself?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
And you know it's I'll let you.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Why don't you give a dissertation here because I don't
think people really understand the whole thing outside of Russian
invented in Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You know, it is complex. The war in Ukraine, you know,
that is the issue. It's not the white and black situation.
I mean scenario that we have been hearing from the
Biden administration. And this is the deal. I'm not going
into detailing through the whole thing, but this is the
deal of people who who knows for sure that the
(33:00):
Biden administration and all the minions of the Biden administration
bill said nonsense during years about Trump and all the
media that said fake news and nonsense about Trump, that
(33:22):
same people suddenly said that everything that Biden was saying
about Ukraine and everything that the media was saying about
Ukraine was the truth. There was like a suddenly miraculous conversion.
(33:43):
I mean, whenever this fake media left with media talk
about Trump is nonsense, his face news, fake news. But
when they talk about that's the truth, it's the gospel.
That is what happened. When Biden said propaganda against Trump,
the laptop whatever, Russia Gate, the white supremacist all that stuff,
(34:06):
oh that's fake news, that's nonsense. But when Biden says
something about Ukraine. Oh, that is the truth. Of course,
President Biden is saying the truth about Ukraine. So that
is the great contradiction in which many Republicans felt, and
they don't even realize that they are following a great contradiction. Okay,
(34:28):
that is the party. Listen, basically, just to go very
to the basics. This war is a very complex war.
It's not white and black like the press, like the media,
like the Biden regime. I've been telling us for the
last four years, Okay, for the last three years. It's
not as simple as that. In Ukraine, what we have
(34:51):
is a civil war. Basically, it's a civil war between
the Ukrainians from the south and the east and the
Ukrainian on the north and the west. They are completely
different people, completely different ideology, ethnic group, religion, language, everything
(35:12):
is completely different. You have and this is the reason why.
Because Ukraine is a Frankenstein country. It's a country created
of pieces of many countries, of Hungary, of Romania, of
Poland that link. I mean there was placed into one
(35:32):
big country. But in reality it is a Frankenstein country.
The people from the north and the west of Ukraine
there are mostly Polish people. They hate Russia. They don't
speak Russia, they do not belong to the Russian Orthodox Church.
They see themselves as Polish, they see themselves as Hungarians.
(35:53):
They want to be with Europe, they want to be
with the European Union. They don't have family in Russia.
They don't have anyone in Russia. They don't care about Russia.
The people from the south and the east, they are Ukrainians,
but they speak Russian, they have family in Russia. They
see themselves as Russians. They belong to the Russian Orthodox Church,
(36:16):
I mean loyal to to Moscow. So they is a
completely different two countries piece on one. And the administration
have been doing is supporting strictly the people from the
north and the west against the people from the south
and the east. And what Rossia have been doing is
supporting the people from the south and they is that
(36:37):
are the Ukrainians. So you have a very big civil
war that began actually in twenty fourteen, that took over,
I mean it took process in twenty twenty two. And
this is what the people don't understand. You cannot and
let me be very clear about this, you cannot defeat
a nuclear super power with thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons.
(37:03):
Who is fighting a critical existential war? How do you
do that? You don't, You can't. And the people that
on the globalist they don't understand that. Okay, it's true.
The United States left Vietnam nineteen seventy five, and the
(37:23):
United States is a nuclear superpower. True, but Vietnam was
not a critical existential war for the United States. The
Soviet Union left Afghanistan, that's true in the nineteen eighty nine,
but Afghanistan was not a critical existential war for the
(37:45):
Soviet Union. Germany lost an existential critical war World War Two,
the Nazi regime. They lost, Okay, but they were not
a nuclear superpower. And you are a nuclear superpower with
thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons and hypersonic missiles and
(38:07):
space glider that go fifteen times the speed of sound,
and you are fighting existential critical war. You cannot lose.
That's what the neoplans don't understand. But Donald Trump understands that.
That is why Donald Trump is speaking to Putting and
bringing the Russian to Saudi Arabia to react Marco and
(38:31):
sending Marco Ruy over there to talk to them. Because
he understands that these war the only way to solve
this thing is by negotiation, and the escalating is this
thing is escalating, escalating, escalating, and escalating then is going
to be terrible for the work. We were not about
to back down in nineteen sixty two when the Soviet
(38:54):
Union put missiles in Cuba because that was an existential,
critical thread to the United States. Well, it's the same
thing with Rossia. Now, they are not going to back down. Now.
It's impossible to defeat and nuclear superpower when they are
fighting a critical existential war. Trump knows that. And now
(39:15):
Trump is trying to escalate and is trying to get
to a deal to get a negotiation stease of this war.
And after that, Trump wants to engage Rossia and the
economic development, gas, tenium rare airs, rod mineral et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. But then Neoncans are trying to
sabotage that an all the Democratic Party, one hundred percent
(39:38):
of the Democratic Party is trying to sabotage and stop that.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Wow, that was amazing, Uh, dude, That's why we need
you on the show to explain it that way, because
not everybody understands, right.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
And and you know the other thing is, you know,
trying to.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Include Ukraine and NATO that that was an agreement that
was already on the table, right, Also trying to put
fucking nukes, you know, right up on the border on
on on on on Russia. There's like you said, there
is no way they're going to allow that to happen.
Like there is no way we're going to allow nuclear
warheads to be in Cuba.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
It's the same crap.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Right, What are we gonna do? What did the United
States is gonna do? If Mexico signs a pack, a
military pack with Russia and China and they agree to
have a mutual defense packed with Russia and China and
deploy hundreds of thousands of soldiers in northern Mexico in
(40:37):
the border with California, San Diego, very close to San
Diego or very close to Texas over there, what are
we gonna do? And by the way, they're gonna put
missiles over there, pointing to the United States, what are
we gonna do?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
We're gonna invade them.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
You need to understand the world. You need to put
yourself in the choice of your foes to put yourself
in the choice of your opponent, so you can understand
what's going on from their viewpoint, from their perspective. And
this is what the neocons don't understand. That what the
Democrats don't do not understand, and this is what the
globalists don't understand. Trump knows it. And that's why Trump
(41:14):
is completely turning around the Biden are nonsensical globalist, neoconists policies,
and he's trying to get Rochia to sit down and
end this war with a negotiational agreement before it's too late.
Because if it's too late, brother, not even you are mere.
We're not going to be here anymore. I'm telling you,
(41:35):
if it's so late.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
So what do the neo cons want? I mean, they
can't want, they can't want to stand off right what
they want?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Listen? Listen again, so people understand this war was about
to end. One month after Rosia invaded Ukraine in March
of twenty twenty two, okay, about four weeks, four weeks
after the one began. There was a document to end
(42:10):
the war that Ukraine and Russia signed already in the draft,
the first draft was already signed in Turkey. They were
negotiating in Turkey, in Istanbul. They were over there and
they were negotiating the end of the war. In March
of twenty twenty two. Then suddenly Boris Johnson, a New Yorkon,
(42:37):
completely globalist New Orkon equivalent of what we call him
a rhino Seuto conservative. I means the conservative, he I
mean he's a any given Mitt Robney. Let's call it away.
So Bodis Johnson, Prime Minister of the UK, flies to Kiev,
(43:02):
meet with Selenski that already signed the draft, and say, hey,
stop it, no more negotiations. Get your team out of Turkey,
get them out of Stumbul, get them out. People were
already signed the first draft. No no, no, no, no, no
first draft, no second draft, nothing. Get out of there,
Get out of Turkey. Continue with the war. We're gonna
(43:24):
give you hundreds of thousands of billions of dollars. We're
gonna give you everything, intelligence, missile planes, submarines, whatever, We're
gonna give you everything. You you have to fight until
the last Ukrainian and you will see that you will.
We will defeat Rosa together and Celenski bought that. And
(43:44):
after that we know what we have been more than
a million people is dead and Ukraine is destroyed, the
plan of Boddis Johnson, the New York globalist right now,
the equivalent of the uk and obviously the plan of Biden,
who was his boss organizing everything. The plan was, let's
(44:04):
gonna inflict damage and Russia. Let's gonna kill hundreds of
thousands of Russian soldiers, and let's gonna destroy the Russian
economy with the sanctions. And then the people of Russia
will raise against Pudding and they will take him over.
And once they take him out by the revolution, a coup, whatever,
(44:26):
then we can break Russia into little countries, into twelve, fourteen,
thirteen little countries, and then those little countries we will
be able to control, We will be able to do
be the pupet master of those little countries. So that
is the secret plan of buy them of Boris Johnson,
(44:46):
mccron et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And they're using
celens Ki. They decided in twenty twenty two to use
a Lenki and the Ukrainian people with the one that
is offering the most for a company, that plant. That
is the plan of the New yorkos. That's the plan
of the global that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
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Speaker 2 (46:17):
And I gotta ask you a question, are they crazy
to believe that that would work?
Speaker 4 (46:26):
I mean that the thing is when when you are
ideology blinds your logic, and when your ideology your fanaticism
blinds your critical thinking, they can't believe anything. I mean, remember,
we live in the world of the insane. Yeah. If
I want to declare myself whatever, giff, Yeah, if I
(46:51):
declare myself a dog, I'm a dog, I mean whatever.
So we live in in the time of complete insanity
and in the mentality of these news of this global
is Oh, that sounds like a good plan to be
I mean, it's absurd. It goes against reality, it goes
against the facts, it goes against history, it goes against
military science, it goes against political science. But the people
(47:13):
don't believe in any of that. They just go by
there by by by their feeling. By the way, it's just.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Gotting to be a lot of money involved. Run. I mean,
you played in that, in that realm and that environment.
It's not just ideology. I think it's ideology to some
dream backs.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Right, of course. I mean they wanted the power. They
want to see Rocha destroyed. They want to see Russia
breaking down and then do what many Oli guards and
many people did in the nighting that it was stealing
all the gas, all the oil that Russia has, all
the meaning, and all the titanium. Because right now Putting
controls that. But in their mind, if they destroy Putting,
(47:51):
they break down Russia into twelve different little countries republics, uh,
then they can go and steal it again. So yeah,
it's a lot of money and a lot of power.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yes, of course, that's crazy, bro.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I mean, so we're going through all this shit, We're
spending hundreds of millions of dollars or billions.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Everything will have been stopped in March of twenty twenty
two in Turkey.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
That's crazy, and all because of the Rhinos, the neocons,
the establishment on both sides are more interested in accumulating
power and accumulating wealth than what's the right thing to do.
I hope man that the cash and Ratcliffe and and
and and Bongino and and we'll see and Pam Bondi right,
(48:41):
and Tulsi right, all those that entire team because the
dream Team can come in and kind of fix this,
you know, when we can't, you know, say enough about
Marco as well. I think Marco is in his natural
role as Secretary of State.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
He's doing a very good job. Let me tell you,
let me tell you he's doing took me by surprise.
He's doing a very good job. He's doing he's following
the marching orders of Trump. He's doing well. Marco is
doing very well.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah. I think everybody's pretty impressed with him.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I haven't heard anybody, not even the left, you know,
criticize Rubio. And when uh and and when Marco goes
out there and he's talking on the media. You know,
he was always articulate, he's always smart. I mean, he
was Speaker of the House here in Florida. He's a lawyer,
you know, ran for you a Senate, et cetera. So
he's you know, he's sharp, so very well.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
He's following trump directive. He's understanding what Trump wants to
to to achieve. So so I think Marco Ruby is
doing very well. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
How do you see this thing coming to an end?
The Russia Ukraine situation? Because I saw the so look
before we do that. I'm sorry Germany what happened in Germany.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
It's a complete disaster.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Right, but the conservatives one, right, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
It's a complete disaster. Mid Drobbney one, Mid Robney one.
I mean so what uh? The old guy in the Senator,
the old guy that that is both in against Tuli.
What's his name? The guy from Kentucky, McConnell, McConnell, mcconnough one.
(50:23):
What okay Mith Robney one, mcconne one. So what okay? Listen,
it's a complete disaster for two reasons. Number one, First
of all, alternative for Doglin that is a is not
a right wing or no Nazi party as bs. They
are now nazi like like drum is white supremacy and
(50:49):
it's nonsense. Okay, it's absolutely nons The press is a
creation of the media, okay. The leader is actually is
a libertarian self declared libertan lesbian, I mean Alice Window,
she's a self declared libertarian lesbian.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
They're not a right wingers national and that, but they're yes,
they're right wing libertarians, let's call it that way. They
got twenty percent of the boat and they become the numbers.
The number two party. So it's great. But the thing is,
at the same time they led the CityU win. So
(51:30):
that's terrible, and and and and the and the CDU
have lost every single inch of conservative they had in
the last ten fifteen years. They have lost everything. The
CD government counselor Angela America who opened the gates of
(51:52):
Europe two million immigrants, have nothing to do with European culture,
have nothing to do with European headed and with European
uh mentality. They left them in I mean uh. And
and among those a lot of extremists, a lot of radicals,
(52:12):
a lot of terrories, a lot of people with the
ghetto mentality that doesn't want to integrate themselves into the society.
Nothing to do like, for example, with the Indian doctor
that we have here in the United States, that they
come from India and suddenly they integrate in the society
and they become doctors and they become I mean very productive.
(52:34):
Part of the nothing to do with that. He opened
the gate, I mean not opened the gates to two
million people. And that was Artherer America from the CDU,
and they everything that conservative the city.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
You sided with the socials. That's what are anxiety.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
That's what I'm telling you. Rodney won the president. I
mean Rodney won the counselor of Germany. Okay, that's not
a good idea.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah, he's a fucking no, no backbone piece of ship. Rightly,
and you heard and you heard his commentary right that
he said, you know, against Trump, we have to figure
out that we have to separate ourselves from the United
States of America going forward, and.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
That Trump is an extremist radical and that trum is
uh doing business with with victor dictators, and he bought
all the BS propaganda bs of the left wing media.
There is no difference between the socialists and the so
(53:41):
called c d U. There is no difference. There is
only the letters of the party's the ideology, the objectives
are the same. And they hate the Alternative for Torsal party,
and they hate Trump, and they hate all of us,
all of sup borders, and they are going to continue
(54:01):
with the buy the agenda. They're going to continue with
the stories agenda. They're going to continue with the globalist agenda.
And this guy is even worse than Shows, because Shows
at least knew that if you poke a bear very hard,
the bear is going to slap you back. Okay, this
(54:22):
guy doesn't understand this thing. He is a furious niokon,
a furious globalist, and he's already talking about continuing to
the end to the last Ukrainian They were in Ukraine
without the United States.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, good luck with that. I mean, don't get smashed.
I mean, don't get smashed.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
But that's his mentality, that's his promise, his campaign promise.
So he's a complete disaster in Germany. And I'm very
sorry because I love Germany. I live over there for
five years. I have many friends in Germany, and I
love the beauty of the country, I love the people.
But I'm very sorry for this tragic for Germany. That
the alternative for doors and only got twenty person is
(55:04):
a good result for them, but obviously it's far, far,
far in from being the great result that we wanted.
And now this guy Mers is coming to destroy the
country and even worse. Not only he will continue with
the war, not only he will attack Trump and attack
the United States, but he also will continue destroying the
(55:26):
economy of Germany because it's the gas, the lack of
Russian gas, and the sanctions against Russia. But he's destroying
the German economy and that's why they are completely I
mean they're in a paralysis for the last two three years.
The German economy is going down, and this guy is
going to continue to say self inflicted terrible policies in other.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
Words, are in the toilet. During the share Romania? What's
going on? What's going on in Romania? They canceled an election.
What's going to happen over there?
Speaker 4 (56:00):
That's in Romania?
Speaker 2 (56:01):
Is that even more complicated? It is?
Speaker 4 (56:04):
Uh, it's very simple. The the guy that the European Union,
the global did not like. They don't want it. They
want he won, so they canceled the elections.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Mhmm.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
You don't like who wins, just canceled the elections. Problems solved,
you don't have to deal. I mean they try to
do something like that with the with Trump. Remember, we
don't like him, he don't want we don't want him
to win the election. I want to be in jail.
Very similar, right, But are they.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Gonna are they calling for new elections or what's gonna
happen over there?
Speaker 4 (56:40):
They are deciding to do new elections. Yes, they're gonna
hopefully do an elections. There are some good people over
there in Romania. There is some some some people that
will try again. But but again, this is the power
of the speech that Vice President Banks gave in Munich.
I mean, that is the beauty. That is the power,
(57:01):
that is the amazing power. Vice President goes over there
to Munich and tell them, listen, I'm not really worried
about Russia. I'm not really worried about China. I'm worried
about you. You are the problem. How dare you put
in England put put this guy on jail because he
was quietly praying outside the clinic. How dare you an
(57:23):
army meat? Shame on you? How dare you put people
around on jail because of a mean TWI? How dare you?
I mean, how dare you you cancel an action because
the guy who won't because you don't like him. That
is a slab on the face. I mean, he's pit
on their face over there, and that's why they're so desperate.
(57:44):
And that's the beauty of that speech of JD. Bands
is a beautiful, amazing speech because basically, when Trump I
mean trum, the candidate says that, oh that that's all
right wing extreming, that we canceled you. We find you.
With any patriotic party in Europe say that, all right,
(58:04):
with the extreme we canceled you. We find you five
thousand dollars fine, actually one month of jail for hate
crank whatever. But now the Vice President of the United
States and the honor guests goes over there and tell
them the same thing in their faces. What are they
gonna do is an egg on the face moment.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah they got they got hammered, so wrapping up, I
know you got to go. Is how does this Ukraine
Russia situation get resolved? Does it get resolved? Can't Trump
do it? We're hearing Zelenski pushing back and attacking Trump,
and Marco Rubio coming out saying, you know, I don't
know what this guy's thinking, but attacking Trump in public
(58:48):
is not a good strategy. And then he's saying that
he's not gonna do this deal for minerals for the
US to pay us back, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Is this so this guy has no intention of peace?
Speaker 1 (59:01):
It's that clear. He wants to fight. He's trying to
engage in the United States against Russia. Since that's not
gonna happen. Now he's telling the United States, fuck you,
I'm gonna continue fighting.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
I have the EU to support me. Take a high,
see you later.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
Listen, the pigeon needs to understand that he's the pigeon
and he cannot attack the child gun. Okay, that's and
that's something that said. So let's still don't understand he's
the pigeon. Okay, he cannot attack the shot gunyah, and
the United States is a shot gun. Okay, he has
(59:37):
the roles inverted. Okay, listen, everything is going to be solved.
Most of it is going to be solved when putting
meats Trump face to face. No, I mean, the ninety
minute fund via phone was great. But once they can
talk to face to face and get to a negotiation
and get to you get this, but please don't get that.
(01:00:00):
I want this, but maybe you cannot get that. When
they get to that point, a lot will be solved,
and then Trump will need to force that agreement into
praying the most likely siless he would say, no, he
still has the ear I mean of macrum or now
Mars in Germany. That is going to be a lot
(01:00:22):
worse than shows as former starmer in in the UK. Okay,
so what is going to happen. Trum most likely will
get to an agreement with Trump, I mean with a pudding.
They will put this piece plan. Celeski will believe these
three globalists, and he will continue the war without Trump
(01:00:45):
until reality explodes in his face and he finds out
that he cannot do it without Trump and with the
United States, and after six months of bitters with UH
suffering and an egg on his face, it will come
back to drave Okay, you were right. Let's got to
implement the piece plan, because yeah, you do a we
(01:01:06):
from the.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
You don't think there's more there right about, you know,
the whole bide and corruption. You saw Elon Musk say
that there is evidence that a lot of the money
that went to Ukraine came back to politicians in the US.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
You don't think.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
That's why they're fighting to keep protecting and defending and
supporting Ukraine and zolen Skin.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Oh yes, as part of it, of course, the military
industrial complex got a lot of money. Of this money, Okay,
most of the weapons were already made and sent and
then the military gave the order to the military industrial
(01:01:49):
complex to create more weapons for most billions and billions
and billions of dollars to replace the weapons that were
set and obviously the military industrial complex. Out of those
one hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions
of dollars, he knew how to feed some pockets of politicians,
(01:02:10):
of course, packs and advertisements and and different ways and g.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Os and whatnot, right, right, right, of course.
Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
I mean they're not going to do directly, but they
find way, they find ways in which some big chunk
of that thousands of billions of dollars will will we'll
make it back to the politicians that authorize that in
the first place.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
That's amazing Ronaldo, Ladies and gentlemen, he's a stud fall
him on x Ronlado four and that's where we pre
play ball right on x or you on other platforms and.
Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
In YouTube, Ronal Edosa contractor and in x Ronal edoxa contractor,
So please follow me over there, of course.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Fantastic, ron Thank you very much for coming on. It's
always an educational day. When Ronal later was on the show,
thank you very much, my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
We'll see you next week. Yep, all right, excellent, Ahi, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
I hope any kind of doubts on anything from from
Pam Boondi to Cash and Dan Bongino to the FBI
to Ratcliffe and c i A too. Jesus, we've covered
so much. We went into you know, Russia, Ukraine, into Germany, Romania,
back to UK and and and others that are supporting
(01:03:31):
Zelenski and why it's not going to be as easy
as it'll be done tomorrow. But you heard it from
directly from the expert. Uh, there will be a deal.
It will get done, maybe six months, but you know,
it is what it is. Anyways, we'll see tomorrow guys.
Hopefully you enjoyed the show.
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