S2E15: The truth about Ukraine - Russia / Also remembering Rep Lincoln Diaz-Balart - IGH Going Rogue

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H m, We're gonna die jage, Going Rogue. Today's Monday,

(00:30):
March the third, and what a weekend man, Uh, I
guess Friday Friday was incredible. We saw fireworks, uh, an
entire spectacle, debacle. Zelenski uh proved I think to everybody
in the world that he is not seeking peace. That
like everybody has been saying for a long time, that

(00:51):
that is a probably the most corrupt country in the world,
and probably a lot of the money is being stolen.
That seems to be the general and sent as well
as a fact that there's a lot of rumors about
the weapons that we have been giving them going out
the back door for twenty cents on the dollars. So,
you know, in order to talk about this it makes

(01:11):
sense all this we have Ronaldliedo ron welcome to Going Rogue.
Runs background. As everybody knows, he's a former you know,
intelligence officer with the Army, has been with the I, A, CIA,
A whole bunch of the agencies knows this part of
the world very very closely. What a disaster, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, it was a fornsky but it was it was
actually a good outcome for the United States. So the
United States can see how different and how opposite the
war view of President Truma and Vice President's Banks is
in opposition to the war view of Selenski and what

(01:54):
the globally. But the New Yorkans are trying to do
and the whole war, I mean the United States and
the whole war. They could see the great difference the
two oppose abuse wor abuse on what to do, where
we are, who we are, where are we going to go?
So the whole world view uh diverse on live TV.

(02:16):
So that is not a disaster. That was good. Actually
it was a disaster for the globalist It was a
disaster for the neocos. It was a disaster for the godless, secularist,
post Christian Europe. Yeah, for the news of Europe, the
no noding of Europe, it was a disaster. But for us,
we actually could see the truth in front of our faces.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Amazing. Hey, mister producer, want to show us that video
so we can laugh through it and uh and talk
through it as well till now. But you will feel
it in the future. God, bless God bless You're blessed.
You're not. Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're
trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're

(02:58):
going to feel, and not telling you because you're in
no position to dictate that. Remember this, you're in no
position to dictate what we're going to feel.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
We're gonna feel very good, feel influenced. We're going to.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Feel very good and very strong.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
It will feel influenced. You're right now, not in a
very good position.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You've allowed you to be in a very bad position.
That he happens to be right about the very beginning
of the war.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Not in a good position.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
You don't have the cards right now.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
All right, Well, I think everybody's seen that probably one
hundred times. One more time is not going to be bad,
but amazing. So walk us through. I mean, all he
really had to do was come in sign this mineral deal.
It was the first step to really resolve some issues.
But he didn't. I think that clearly proves ron that
he's not seeking peace, that he is wants to stay

(03:49):
in control, and he's probably making a lot of money
off of this war.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Listen, I saw the whole video of the whole fifty minute.
I saw several times the whole thing, Not only that
the five minutes, the five minutes, the last five minutes
where they are actually in an hited argument. That is
just the culmination of fifty minutes of confrontation. It was

(04:17):
a soft poken confrontation, but it was a direct confrontation
of two different world views, of two very different objectives,
two different missions. And this is basically what happened from
the start. From the very start, Donald Trump, you just
came with one objective. We are going to seek peace.

(04:37):
We're going to seek a compromise, We're going to seek negotiations.
That's it. Just you're here signed the minute also agreement.
So the United States we have some kind of let's
call it a economical interest in helping you, in supporting you.
So so this is not for free, so we have

(04:59):
some benefit it for the American people. So let's do that.
Let's going to seek peace, They're gonna see negotiations, they're
gonna see a compromise, or here as a peacemaker. I'm
here as a to break a peace. I mean to
help you establish piece between Rossia and your country. That
was President Ron from the very beginning. Selensky, in the

(05:20):
other hand, had a completely different agenda, a completely different mission,
completely different object and what Selensky was looking for for
the last fifth, for the whole fifty minutes, what he
had been looking for, and the same speech that he
had been saying hundreds and hundreds is not thousands of
times all around the world, in Europe, in the United States,

(05:42):
in Canada and Australia, everywhere, a world that is white
and black Rossia. But but we good, good, give us
a lot of money, give us a lot of weapons.
That's it. That that's the what what Selensky was looking for.
That was Selenski were objectives, and that is what created

(06:04):
at tension because every time that tron saying something in
his war view, in his mission, we need to a compromise,
we need to make a deal. We need to have
the dead stop. A lot of job people are dying,
we need to stop. Clenski immediately came with a counter,

(06:28):
with the counter to the American people, to the press,
to the president. I don't want his fire. I can
never accept this fire. Uh look the pig through the
pic to how bad Russia is, and Putting is a terrorist,
and Pudding is a killer and a terrorist, an assassin,
and and and I don't want to see his fire.
And I have a very low air defenses. I need

(06:49):
more air defenses. Give me more air defense and more.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Just more and more and more, give me, give me,
gimme right.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
The same automatic, robotic speech of the last three year
years that he have said a thousand times in Europe,
in London, in Paris, with Biden, in Congress, everywhere he
have been in Berlin, Ah, roches bad, we are good.

(07:15):
I need more weapons and more money. Please come on,
that's it. But he fail to read the room he felt.
I mean, maybe he knows the room, but he was
trying to put pressure on through He was trying to
put pressure in front of the cameras, in front of
the media.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
And that's the wrong thing to do it Trump anyways, right.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So nobody can do that. Nobody, I mean no, no,
nobody in this war can do that, but most less Lensky.
Come on, and he was trying to put pressure in
front of the media, in front of the camera. Look
how bad Trump he looked at pictures. He's very bad,
very bad. We are very good, very good. Now the
war is white and I'm black. Very simple. Now give

(07:56):
me more money, give me your defenses. I'm not going
to take any seas fire, and every time for fifty minutes,
the tension was growing and growing and growing because he
was contradicting then, but every everything that Trump was saying,
we need to I cannot call Putting horrible names, terrible names,
because then I cannot call him, hey, blood, how's it going,

(08:18):
Let's go to the world. Doesn't work like that. And
every time that Trump says something like that, then immediately
Selenski came to contract, oh, Putting is terrible. This, we
need more air defenses, we need more weapons. And that's
what increased the tension until by President Bands was there.
He was listening to this tension. Marco Rubio was listening

(08:40):
to this tension growing, called this conflict of world views
of objective and then by President said, okay, we need
diplomacy for three years. By then, what was just talking
and talking and insulting Putting and declaring war. Listen Russell,
where we are a million and a half people dead.
We need to stop this. And then Seleski with the

(09:02):
final nello on the coffin when he began to challenge
Bands uh Vice Presidents A uh Bands, he said, uh,
what kind of the promise are you talking about? What
kind of the promise. Hey have you been in Ukraine
and that Trump could not take it anymore. Listen. Uh,
you have been contradicting me, talking over me, contradicting my objective,

(09:27):
coming here with a propaganda tour, with the pictures and stuff.
That's perfect, Okay. The propaganda is what all you have
been doing for the last three years, brainwashing dozens of
millions of people around the world. That's not gonna work
with me, that's not We're not gonna work with with
vice presidents a band Jad advanced. So shut up, okay,

(09:47):
shut up. You have been messing with me for since
the very star of this conference, for the last fifty minutes,
contradicting me, saying stuff against me, praying the tough guy
I see, and he could not handle it anymore because
the guy was just in his own war view. He
thought that Trunk was Biden. Yeah, and by then that

(10:10):
these were for Biden and all the ocles, all the
globalist and these were for our shoals in Germany and
for now the merge in Germany, for mccron putting back,
we goold. Uh, the war is white and black. Give
me more money.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's it, and that didn't work with true.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, and and there's also some tension there right because
jad Vans brought it up and he said, you went
out there and you campaign for for our opponent, you know,
in October, and you know, and and and he's coosing
up with the Democrats in Congress and everybody, everybody's everybody,

(10:48):
and I'm betting the fire and yeah, everybody's everybody. Everybody's
drifting and making money off of this. And he thinks that,
you know, Trump is going to be the same, that
he's gonna also, you know, get money or getting paid
from this, and that's not Trump's game. And it was
very very clear. I think you know, you saw Bessent

(11:08):
yesterday on Face the Nation say you know that deal
is no longer on the table. This morning, Zelenski is
saying that, you know, he's ready to sign the deal
right now. What's gonna happened? I don't know. I mean,
what do you think happens? I think you know Trump
Trump told him, he goes, okay, well, you know you
don't want peace. You're on your own. You're gonna have
to fight it out. It's gonna be your problem, but

(11:30):
not with our help and not with our weapons, not
with our money.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Listen, Zelensky, He's in a state of denial. He's in
his own bubble. Okay. I mean it's a bubble that
he shares with many people, but still is a bubble. Okay.
A lot of people saying that the moon is made
of cheese doesn't make the moon made of cheese.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
He's steal in his imaginary bubble, his alternative reality. Yes,
all the New Organs, all the globalists of Europe are
with him in the same bubble, in the same denial
of reality. But that doesn't make it right. Because a
lot of people is wrong. That doesn't make it right.
And this is what happened. Lenski is desperate, yeah, and

(12:17):
that desperation is what we saw Friday at the White House.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Desperately right way, desperately what way? That's losing power?

Speaker 2 (12:27):
He well, he's losing the war. He's he's having terrible,
horrific casualties and everything. And this is the desperation. Everything
that Biden told him, he says that it's not true,
everything that by Biden told him that will happen. We
have seen that it is not happening. Let me explain you.

(12:51):
The war I mean this path of the war. The
actual war began in twenty fourteen with the Maidan who
with the usaid US said the USA USA that the
Trump is now cutting. During years, they gave up to
five billion dollars in anti Russian propaganda and Ukraine what

(13:15):
they called democratic education. It basically propaganda programs. That's it
to turn the Ukrainian people against Russia. And then finally
in February twenty fourteen, just two months after Roasia signs
a peace agreement with Ukraine with jan Ukovich the president,
the true president, democratically elected president of Ukraine. They signed

(13:40):
on seventeen December twenty thirteen. Then in February twenty fourteen,
Victoria Nouland usaid your sorrows, Obama. They all create these
cool and that is what really started this work. They
wanted to create make Ukraine a pubet, a marionette of
Obama and the West. But the face, the real hot

(14:04):
phase of this war started on twenty twenty two, On
a twenty fourth Ferruary twenty twenty two. What happened in
March twenty twenty two, four weeks four weeks after the
war started. This war was about to end. So Leski
has a diplomatic delegation and putting half a very strong

(14:28):
diplomatic delegation in Istanbul in Turkey in March of twenty
twenty two, just four weeks after the war started, and
they already have a draft a peace agreement, a draft
peace agreement that was very soft, very moderate. The Craine

(14:49):
should not become part of NATO. Should become neutral because
we need a buffer between Rossia and NATA. So stay neutral.
And number two, give freedom to the Ukrainians of the
South and the East. Ukrainian of the South, of the East,
of the Dombasque. They don't want anything to do with

(15:09):
your regime. They see themselves as Russian, they speak Russian,
they belong to the Rossian Orthodo Church. They see that
part of Ukraine as historic part of Russia for centuries
and century, not just the Soviet Union, but the Roussian
Empire for centuries. Give them freedom and stay neutral. Do

(15:30):
not become part of nature. That's it, and that was
very close to be signed in March of twenty twenty
two in Istanbul. Thirty what happened Joseph Biden, whoever his
handlers are, and Bodis Johnson from the at that time,

(15:51):
the Prime Minister of the Riti you know, go directly
to to Celenski. Biden sends bodies Johnson to fly in
a desperation, desperate fly to Kiev and they tell him
over there, do not sign the piece. And so let's kie.
I'm sure, he said, what are you talking about? And
we're very close to spend the piece and then the war.

(16:13):
No no, no, no, no no, do not sign the piece.
We're going to give you one hundreds and hundreds of
millions of dollars, thousands of millions of dollars until the end.
We're gonna give you all kinds of weapons and intelligence
and pictures and satellite spy and drawns and whatever. You
are going to defeat Russia. You will see, you're going
to kick out Russia, fight until the last Ukrainian. Are

(16:36):
you sure? Yeah, you have the word cross my heart
of the United States and cross my heart the world
of the United Kingdom and all of the European Union.
Not sign the piece, Okay, guys, I'm very the farm
on you, okay, whatever. So he tells his people to
get out of example of Turkey, and they do not

(16:58):
sign a greem. They do not sign the peace agreement
that was this close to end the war after only
four weeks.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Now we are three years after that, three years after that,
and now Zelenski is seeing that the promise that Biden
gave him and the promise that what is Johnson gave him,
by the way, both gone.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
It's not materializing. You haven't been able to defeat Russia,
to kick out the Russians. Putting still in power. They
haven't break out Russia in nineteen different sixteen different little countries.
They haven't. They haven't been a coup in Moscow against Putting.
They haven't taken over the country. That guys, you promised me.

(17:44):
You promised me, Biden, You promised me, Bodi Is Johnson.
You promised me that I will win this thing, and
I am not winning. So he came here with the
idea of making Trump accountable for that, of buy them.
That's why you the war again is very black and white.

(18:05):
Russia is back. I'm good, give me money, give me
web And then he found he found the world of Trump.
What are you talking about? Listen that that promise is over.
Biden was an idiot. He gave you three hundred and
fifty billion dollars. That's it, no more. I'm not buy them.
What are you talking about? And that is the desperation

(18:27):
that moved Ae Lensky from the very beginning to contradict Trump,
to contradict and challenge bands to to to go against them.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
And he does it in front of the media, right
to try and pressure them, you know, in the public
in the public forum, like that's gonna make any difference
with this president or this administration. It's not. And I
think that back that backfire tremendously because he should have
done it behind behind closed doors, down in the front

(18:56):
of cameras, you know. And uh, and he miscalculated dearly.
I don't know where this is going to go. I
suspected let him back to the table, and you.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Know, I have been in diplomatic meetings and when the
doors are closed, then we talked back and forward. I
did it with with with the Mexican government. Okay, we
talked back and forward and we change blonde views and whatever.
But you don't do that in front of the cameras.
But he was trying to do first of all, and

(19:26):
you can see because many of the questions came to
Trump and Trump. But then before going to the next question.
Uh so, let's can I say something? Can I say something?
He injected himself in the conversation that nobody was asking him.
Putting is so bad, we need more weapons. Putting bad.

(19:46):
I don't want to seisfire.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
That's it. He was desperate, he was trying to put
the pressure. And then he came with the propaganda pictures
and showing picture, look how bad putting in. I don't
know who the pictures are. I don't know. It works
perfectly in Europe, where most of the people, even for
the right hand and the left are neocons and globalist.
In Berlin, it works perfectly in parties, work perfectly. But

(20:10):
that is not gonna work with Donald Trump. It's not
gonna work with a true part of your conservative America
first president like Donald Trump, and that he was trying
to put the pressure on the media and on Trump
and bringing his case. We cannot make peace, we cannot
make a deal, we cannot negotiate with putting. Putting is bad.

(20:30):
I'm good, give me money, give me air defenses. Does it?
And that backfire terrible? And the person who broke the
day this is not gonna work was yad Banks. God
bless him because he was over there observing the whole
chain for fifteen minutes. My president is saying, A is
the way to go, and this dude dressed like bring

(20:55):
Bobblin over there, he's saying contradicting here for fifteen minutes, no,
b wait to go, a b abe, listen stop it,
show your mouth. We're trying to sell your country. Enough enough,
just quit, just quit.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
And that basically, it was amazing to see Marco's face
and expressions during the whole thing. He didn't get a
word in, but but you could tell he was pissed.
He was pissed because, you know, realistically by the State
Department and that whole situation. And he said, yeah, they're ready,

(21:31):
he's coming, we're gonna sign. It's going to be protocol, bullshit,
a picture op. And then it turns into a freaking circus.
You know. So he couldn't have been uh, he couldn't
have been too happy, that's for sure. He didn't look
like he was happy. And then you know later in
the press, you know he he expects his views pretty clearly,
and and I think he said, you know that deal, nos,

(21:53):
that deal is no longer on the table. You know
that deal.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, No, he's gone. He's gone. That's Aleski's gone. For
forget about Solenski at the United States of America is gone,
is concerned. He's gone. Listen, Marco. Because he's the Secretary
of State, he had the responsibility of the United States
the promise. So I'm sure it was his office and

(22:19):
and and ambassadors and all the diplomats arranged his behind
working furiously on all the details, the protocols, uh in
coordination or your li with that, with the White House
Executive Office on the deal, et cetera, and and and
Marco knew, even though he's very new to to the job.
He he knows, he knows how these things go. You

(22:43):
sit down over there, you smile, say thank you, mister President,
in order to be here. Yeah we're gonna talk. Yeah
we're gonna discause and thank you to be here. And
that's it. You show your mouth, say anything.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
That's what you had to do. You just had to
show up, shut the fuck up, say thank you very much,
sign the fucking deal, and can get the fuck out
of the fucking town.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Right now. He is a fucking He thought that this
green goblin this is poopet comes over there, that the
comedian comes over there and begins to talk and challenge
for fifty minutes. What Trump is saying challenge on his face.
What the Vice president is saying Marco like, oh my god,
this guy is just ruining everything. How can you be

(23:25):
so stupid? How can you be so stupid? Just show
your mouth, just smile and say thank you. And that's it.
So that that that that face is a statement on
the face of Marco Rubio and the statement of Lindsey Graham,
Senator Lindsey Graham after the meeting. That's also an amazing
power of statement.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Listen, what does that mean? What does that mean? Because
Lindsey Graham was a huge, huge supporter of Zelensky this
entire time. When when Lindsey Graham breaks what is that?
What is that? What is he signaling there? I mean that.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
That means that the rather are abandoning. Okay, listen with respect,
but it's true. Listen, we have the the neocom party
in Congress. Okay, the neocons, I mean mostly all of
the left, all of the Democratic Party, and then we
have the neocom Globalist Party uh in Congress on the

(24:27):
right too. On the central right. I mean, and we
have Lindsa Traham, lindsent Raham, we have gotten, we have
Joe Wilson, we have so many neocons. Are furious neocons, Okay,
they are usophobic, and we need to conquer the war
and work here and work there, and bomb everywhere and
bomb there and declare more words or whatever. And obviously

(24:49):
that faction is in opposition to the more audio conservatives,
a triotic faction in Congress. I'm talking about majorly terror Green.
I'm talking about Mazy, Representative Mazy, and I'm talking about
another round pole, round pole. I'm sorry, I'm talking about

(25:10):
this Valio conservative voices, but priotic mega voices inside the party, okay,
that are confronting the neocons inside the Republican Party. And
and basically they know that one thing is what they
want and the ideology and and and they're black and
white ideology of the word good versus evil, and that's it.

(25:33):
And and there is no middle ground. There is nothing
to analyze. There is no root cause of the war,
there is nothing like that. They don't they don't know
what the dombas is. They have no idea, but they
don't know anything like that. They only don't uh they
they bad, were good, that's it, just excellence. So when
when they see that the cheap is sinking, they see

(25:56):
that now it's Trum's game. There is a new cheer
even town and it is so what Troum and Advanced
Vance was strong. I mean, I was very impressed with
the performance brand, so I was stirt so confident. So
in his viewpoint, you know, his work view, when they
saw the president and the vice president are here, it's

(26:17):
going to be political suicide for me to insist in
a lost cause Okay, I'm not a Japanese camise, yeah,
or that I'm not going to do the kity to myself.
So I finally see that my sheep is sinking. I
need to jump from this from this boat because if not,

(26:37):
I'm going to sync with it. And that's basically that's
what it means that Lindsay Radham speech just immediately after
the incident.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, that's that's that's amazing. We gotta go to a
break real quick, Brannie. We'll be right back. Let's see it.
I'm as a producer, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well, dude, we just found out is that confirmed? David? Yeah,
Lincoln disbel Arch has died. See if you can pull
that story up. Oh my god, what did he die from?
What does it say?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's that shop for Flodia.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, he's's uh, he's standing on behlf of the
family Colin hold On. It doesn't say what he died
from though, right, Wow, Bro, that's that's that's big news.

(28:36):
That is big news. Lincoln was a long time fixture
and in Congress and represented obviously the Cuban American exile
community here and and a defender of peace and freedom,
you know, one of the ardent figures in Congress fighting
against communism and and the left and amazing.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Great love for Florida for the last say, of course, yes.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, yeah, amazing. I guess going back to Lindsey Graham
and the sinker shipping. So you think Lensky's done.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well as far as the United States, He's done. Okay, listen, Trump,
I don't want to help Selenki anymore because he's very right.
He told Lensky several times, two times, three times. You
are gambling with World War three. You are gambling with

(29:33):
World War three hundreds of You're gambling with the life
of hundreds of millions of people. So that's what Trump Toldlesky.
So he doesn't want, he doesn't have any interest in
keeping this war. Is playing with fire, with nuclear fire,
thing going on. Now. What Trump wanted is listen, we
have already invested I don't know one hundred billion dollars,

(29:58):
two hundred billion, three the billion. I don't know how
many billions and billions and billions of dollars in this
stupid war. Okay. So now we need to get something back.
And if you want me to keep working with you,
you want me to keep considering you as a partner
or something, sign this minieral deal. Okay, so we have something,

(30:21):
at least something. So we're not giving you preevies. Okay,
we're not here the erectional army. We're not giving you
thing for free. Okay, So give us something. Sign this
deal and Celenski Okay, I'm going to sign the deal,
but I'm not going to sign it here in Kief
like from one from send over there. His representatives of

(30:42):
Selenski signed the deal over there in the trade. No, no, no,
no no. I need to go to the White House.
I want a ceremony with the President. Then I'm going
to sign it. Why because he wanted to use the opportunity,
that's it, to do his propaganda tour, to do his
brainwashing propaganda tour. He have been doing a hundred times,

(31:03):
three hundred times for the last three years, the same
propaganda tour he had been doing in the United States,
in Berlin, in Frankfurt, in Paris, in London, one hundred
times in Poland. So I need to sign it. But
I didn't need to sign it over there when all
the cameras are on me, so I can't do my
propaganda tour. But basically, he did not want to sign

(31:25):
the deal neither. He just wanted to do the propaganda tour.
That's it. And and Trot said, listen, this is the
first step for a deal. You don't want to do
a deal. You have the wrong attitude. You have the
tough guy attitude. You're a tough guy because of me.
That's what Trump told him. I enabled you to be
a tough guy. If no were for the United States weapons,

(31:47):
this war will have been over in two weeks. Okay,
so you're a tough guy because of me, But you
have the wrong attitude. I am not in the war
party anymore. Now. I am in the peace party. You
are in the war party. You're something in your mind
doesn't compute, doesn't.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
There's some rumors about a possible coup or or replacement
of the Lenski in Ukraine. What do you think about that?
When I know you know that that reason pretty well possible.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Everything is possible, especially when when he keeps sending more
Ukrainians to die for a for a useless cause right now,
for a I mean a course that everybody knows that
it's not going to win at all. Okay, so it's
possible that the general get tired of sending the kids
over there to die for nothing. Okay, that's possible. But again,

(32:34):
Selenski's in a bubble. He's in his brainwash bubble, his reality,
in his fake reality, and all the neocon globalists, brainless
people from Europe, they are with him. Macron is with him,
star Mars with him, the sources with him, now, the

(32:54):
the new New yorkong guy who's coming to Berlin, Mars,
it's a thousand times with him. All these guys are
enabling Selenski to leave and to reaffirm his alternative reality,
fake reality, his bubble, and they're going to keep giving
him billions, billions and billions of dollars. Yesterday the UK

(33:17):
gave him three billion dollars, I mean three billion pounds and.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Well, you saw I think you saw the You probably
saw the UK's Prime minister yesterday and the media tried
to corner him to say that the alliance between the
United States and UK was was damaged or it was
dead and you know, blah blah blah, and there's a
new world order without the United States. And even though

(33:44):
this prime minister is no friend of Trump, he didn't
he didn't go there. He said very clearly the alliance
and the ties within between the United States and Great
Britain are as strong as ever and they will always
continue to remain strong. Our intelligence are intertwined, our relationships
are intertwined. We are we are partners for life, and

(34:08):
that will never change. And I think that was very telling. Man,
that was very telling because they said, you know that
that that meeting in UK with all the heads of Europe,
what they were talking about was and he said, you know,
the meeting was not about doing this without the United States.

(34:29):
It was about how do we help the United States
reach a peace agreement, so clearly signaling that that Trump
in the United States is leading in this. And I
thought that was very important because I don't think any
of them want to take on the United States right now,
I don't think they they need the United States. They
don't have the muscle, they don't have the they don't

(34:51):
have the armies, they don't have the military strength to
defend themselves. I think Germany has cut their forces to nothing.
Uk has virtually no army, the same with everybody else.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Right listen, uh, you're you're absolutely right. They can extend
these for our six seven, eight more months, nine months depending. Okay, uh,
but but but but without the United States. This is
a lot of costs. Okay, this is a lot of costs.
We're not only giving hundreds of billions of dollars, we're

(35:22):
giving him real time intelligence, yes, intelligence, survivance and reconnaissance.
We have a satellite spy, we have drawn spy drones.
We're giving him Jay WICKSA the plane, the spice planes
tracking in real time all the movements of the Russian
Air Force. Everything that that we go from the from

(35:44):
the in a row, from the space. We give them
immediately to Selenski. We have hundreds is not thousands of
civilians from the intelligence community over there in Ukraine helping, supporting.
Once that is over, the weapons, the money we're paying
for the salaries of the Ukrainian soldiers. We're paying for

(36:04):
the salaries of the Ukrainian civil servants in the government.
One that is out and that intelligence is out. The
Europeans can extend this for six, seven, eight, nine months,
ten months, whatever, but it's going to be a point
where everything is going to crow. The whole house of
cars is going to come down. Now. I want people

(36:24):
to understand this very clear. The war is divided. And
when I said the war, I mean the West is
divided into the United States. There is a value of
conservative nations now tend to from a Christian civilization nation,
and the global is New yorkons of the post Christian

(36:48):
Europe with the sception of urban, with the exception of
urban from Hernary, rest the center right and the central
left of Europe, they are lost. Okay, And let me
so people underst here in Florida, people understanding here in
the United States what I mean with that. Let's suppose
that Kamala Harris or Joe Biden are the president of

(37:10):
France and the president of the Prime Minister of the
United Kingdom. And let's suppose that the most Rhino guy
that you can come come with Romney is the president
or the councilor of Germany. That is the situation we
have now. The center left of Europe. They hate Trump

(37:34):
just as Biden hate Trump, job as Kamala Harris hate Trumps,
just as all these as Pocahontas are hate Trum just
a tumor hate Trump just like that. And they have
the same exact ideology, world view values. These people from Europe,
from the center left in London schools right now in Germany,

(37:59):
they all have the same values of this by then
Kamala Harris, uh Sumer Nonsypelosi people they hate, throw to
the balls. The only different is that they are not
in the US Congress. They are president or Prime minister
of countries in Europe.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
And it's funny because they don't hate them because Trump
Trump isn't giving giving them money, right, I mean that's
the reality. Uh, you know Trumps in America. First policy, we.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
See the twitters, the tweets of these people. When when
Trump was a candidate, we need to oppose trong. Trump
is a racist, Trum is a cenophobic. True, we need
to the war united against TROMP. Now they want to
hide those tweets, but twists are there. That's what they
really think about Tromp. That's their position about Trump. They

(38:46):
depy trom They dislike Trump, they completely. The only thing
is that they cannot cancel him. Somebody in their own
country say something like that, we support Trump. Celeski is
a clowns a the globally. They immediately censored them, They
mediately canceled them. They find them, They might even put
them in jail in their country.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
But they can be they and they and they do
arrest people for social media posts. You know, so you know,
anything possible, everything, I mean, anything is possible from these guys.
We saw David I say, you uh uh a Tucker
Carlson tweet or posts. I don't know if you can

(39:31):
pull that up somewhere, but it's interesting because he reads
and he says one of the most striking I don't
know if you can find it, but it says one
of the most striking things about yesterday's a Lindsay press conference.
Was Lindsey graham reaction to it, the two our old friends.
But Graham disavowed him within the hour. Oh you have

(39:53):
it all right, put it up, put it up, let's
hear it.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
So would I think complete utter disaster. I've been to
Ukraine eight or nine times since the war started. I
understand the consequences of Putin's actions against Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I appreciate what the.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Ukrainian people have done. They fought like tigers. At the
end of the day, I was hoping that this mineral deeal,
which would be transformative in the relationship, would go overwhelm.
I talked to Zelenski this morning, don't take the bait.
President Trump was in a very good mood.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Last night.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Somebody asked me, Am I embarrassed about Trump. I have
never been more proud of the president. I was very
proud of Jdvans standing up for our country. We want
to be helpful. What I saw in the Oval office
was disrespectful, and I don't know if we can ever
do business with Zolenski again. I think most Americans saw

(40:59):
a guy that they would not want to go on
business with. The way you handle the baiting, the way
he confronted the President was just over the top.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
There you go, we're back. I mean, Senator Graham just
said the same thing. He said Ronaldo, Holy crap, dude.
So he just pretty much killed I think at this
point Lanski's a dead man walking right. He just said,
we can never go into business with him, we can
never go back with him. He's done. He's done. It's

(41:30):
over right, that's it.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I mean, without the United States, the European New Orkans,
the meat Romneys of Europe, and the Nancy Pelosis of
Europe and the all the neocons of Europe, the bidence
of Europe can keep him on life support zombi for months. Now.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I think you think they can do that that long?
They can keep him alive that long?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
You think they can they can keep him for six, seven,
eight months? Baby?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Do you think so?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Money and unders they can extend the warfare for some time.
But it's basically useless. It's like artificial life support. I mean, uh,
basically as some bee walking.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Okay, here's the Here's a tweet by the Post by
Tucker and he says, one of the most striking things
about yesterday is a Lynsky press conference was Lindsey Graham's
reaction to it. That we that we just saw the
two year old friends, but Graham this about him within
the hour. This was more than just transactional disloyalty. This
was scapegoating Lindsey Graham knows what's coming. Over the past

(42:35):
three years, with a tacit support of his Western patriots,
the Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes.
The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons on the
international black market at twenty cents on the dollar. These
weapons are now in the hands of armed groups around
the world, including hamas the Mexican Drug Card tells, and

(42:56):
forces now controlling Syria. God knows what do you gradients
have done with the pathogens in American biolabs in their country.
Even US intelligence agencies aren't sure. The Ukrainians have often
murdered a number of people in various countries and political assassinations,
and try to murder others, including American journalists and European

(43:18):
head of state. This is all true, and it's all
going to come out at some point. Better start blaming
it on Zelenski, now, dude, those are fucking damaging words. Man.
That is a hell of an accusation. We have known
about the armstin going out the back door for a
long time and especially going to the cartels, because everybody
has known that for a long time. Because somehow the

(43:41):
cartels always find themselves in the middle of sweet deals. Right,
what do you think about that? That post by Tucker.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
And no, no, listen, it's absolutely possible, is possible. I
only comment on the things I see from the open sources.
I don't have access to classify information right now. I
only see from what I see in the open press,
on the classified open sources, that's what I see. But
for what I see on the open sources and the

(44:13):
classified media, that can be absolutely right. Maybe doctor knows
more than me. He have some kind of sort that
I don't have. But from the open sources, strictly, this
is absolutely possible. Listen. People need to understand. Ukraine is
a very poor country, very very poor country, uh and very.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Corrupt and very corrupt. There's not the most corrupt country.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
That makes it extremely corrupt, one of the most corrupt
countries in Europe for many, many, many years, for decades. Okay,
people over there, if you want me to do something,
give me the money, then I might think about that's
how they work, and they are corruption. One on one.
I know corruption. I saw it in Afghanistan. Okay, I
saw it in Afghanistan. Sometimes we send them boots. Three

(45:02):
hundred thousand, five hundred thousand dollars in boots to the
Afghan army, and those boots disappear. Suddenly some Chinese, very
poor quality boots appear instead. The people took the American
boots they saw them in the market, they replaced with
very cheap Chinese boots for example. This is an example.

(45:25):
So you have an extremely corrupt country, very poor country
that now is receiving hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds
of thousands of millions of dollars coming in coming, in
coming in and I'm sure there are many generals and
government officials and ministers that, oh, this is a good
way for me to do money now. And you have

(45:47):
this powerful, super rich cartels in Mexico, in Colombia, in
Mexico that they're willing to pay a good, good money
for all these weapons. So it makes absolutely good sense
that these corrupt people in Ukraine are selling the most
powerful weapons, the most military, great kind of weapons for
good money to the cartel. It made absolute sense. And

(46:11):
that is the people who is bringing the fent and eel,
and those are the people who are facilitating the people traffic,
I mean the human traffic and the drug traffic in
the United States and the corrupt people in Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
So it sounds like and all the signing that we've
heard from this administration. We heard Lindsay Graham say it
as well. You've said it. I said it last week.
I said on Friday, I said, you know, I think
I posted dead man walking. He's done. You know, he's
fucking done. So what happens. So you're saying, Okay, Europe

(46:47):
can maybe prop them up another you know, three six months.
Who knows. There's some rumors about Europe trying to grab
the two hundred and eighteen billion dollars of Russian assets
and banks and all that using that to fun Ukraine.
I think that would be a huge sake because I
think Russia would take that as a direct attack on them.

(47:08):
They're not gonna put it.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
That's very unlikely. I mean, the fanaticism and desperation of
these people is absolute. They know that they are losing
and they're getting desperate. So there might be some people,
especially in the Baltic countries Betwenia, Latvia, Estonia and Poland.
Those are the four most Rusophobic countries in Europe and

(47:31):
in the world. Those three Baltics and Poland, so they
might push for that, maybe they have some voices we
will support them from the UK, but I see as
a whole that that is extremely unlikely because that's basically
a declaration of war. I mean, when you take those
assets that are the national assets of a country, it's

(47:54):
like somebody taking the American assets for not goal or something.
So it's a declaration of what and nobody wants to
get into that level, especially without the backing of the
United States. The United States is out. The United States
is doing a ponchous pilot. I wash my hands. So
without the backing of the United State, without the intelligence

(48:15):
of the United State, without the logistic support of the
United States, I don't really think it's I mean it's possible,
everything is possible. It's possible, but I see it highly
unlikely because that will be a direct confrontation with Russia.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, I agree with that. We got to go to
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can people find you? Ronnie? I know you you have
a very good article out there on this issue, and
you did a good puss on it.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Right Actually, I I ee article come back in January
of twenty twenty three, two years ago, where I said
Biden is risky and gambling is gambling with the World
War three, with nuclear war. Yeah, and that's basically the
same words, I mean, almost the same words that Tron

(50:18):
told Selenski on Friday, like two times, three times you
were gambling with World War three.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Well, you've been saying it since day one, since the
since the war started. You were very public, very very
public against Ukraine. And everybody was like, whoa, what is
he doing? Why why is he siding with Russia? Why
is he taking a side with Russia? And nobody really
understood why.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I was siding with Trump, I was siding with Banks,
I was siding with Toker Carcer, that was I was
siding with the Tulsi Gabner. That what people understand from
the very beginning, Listen, there is people that.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
They just don't know, says me.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
This is what amazes me very much. There are some
patriots in this country, a lot of them, many patriots. Okay,
we want the election by a lot, but many of
these patriots, many of these patriots, mega people. They were
very smart in understanding that everything that the left wing
propaganda media said about Trump is bs okay, so that's BS,

(51:25):
and Trump marked the the disabled guy, and Trump is
colluding with Russia, and Trump wants to fire uh Liz
Cheney in the squad, and Trump said that he's going
to be a blot bad in the streets of America.
He loses. All that was propaganda, was yes, and a

(51:45):
lot of patriots in this country they knew that that
was propaganda and BS, Okay, everything that the CNN and
these people said, it just it's just garbage, fake news.
The sad part is that the same piece people, the
same people every time that Biden says something about Crenald Russia,
and the same reporters of CNN and CBS and whatever

(52:08):
says something about Rosia. Oh, that is true. That is
one hundred percent true. The problem, that is the problem.
They were very smart in figuring out the anti Trump
propaganda from the fake media and by but then they
were very naive in believing one hundred percent, like the gospel,

(52:29):
every nonsense that came out of Biden and Kamala Harris
and Nancy Pelosi and over everybody about Trump. Listen, understanding
the root cause of this war is not being with putting,
it's being with true it's being with Balans, it's being
with Talker Carcon That what you think. They attacked so
much and they hated so much when Plussy Gab, an extraordinary, beautiful,

(52:51):
amazing woman was nominated to take the ODN. I because
she has the same position I have about and Ukraine
from the very beginning, from the verty start. That's why
the Democrats hate her today. That's why they tried to
block her, because we all all she govern Goger Carson

(53:12):
from Balance, myself, humbling included, we all have the same
basion and the same policy about this. And this is
why the Democrats and the Liver are so furious and
so angry with with those nominations.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
No, and you're you're you're very early right at the
be anyone that started. I remember people saying, dude, what
is wrong with Ron? Why is he Why is he
siding with with Putin? He's siding with Putin? And I said,
I don't. I don't think he's siding with Putin. I
think he's calling out Ukraine for what it is a
very corrupt country and a very you know, fucked up

(53:45):
situation over there, and he's just called he's just called
balls and strikes. That's all he's doing. He's not siding
with Putin, you know. But there's a there's a lot
of history back there right between Ukraine and Russia.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
It's a long history. Again, whateople need to understand. And
I don't want to to to make a I mean,
we have short time. I don't want to deep into this.
This is basically a civil war. This is basically a
civil war. Okay, just like the United States have a
civil war the northern South, this is a civil war

(54:19):
between Ukrainians. Because the people from the north and West
Ukraine that people they hate Russia. They dislike Russia. They
don't speak Russian, they do not belong to the Russian
Orthodox Church, they don't have family in Russia. They see
themselves as Europeans. They want to be members of the
blob of European Union, of the Global East of Poland,

(54:42):
and many of them have Polish heritage and Hungarian heritage.
They don't want to see anything. They don't want anything
to do with Russia. But the problem is that just
like there are millions and millions of Ukrainians in the
North and the West, there are millions and millions and
millions of Ukrainians in the south and the east of
the country, that see themselves as Russian, that speak Russian,

(55:06):
that have family in Russia, that they belong to the
Russian Orthodox Church. And that's the problem. You have two
sides that are I mean, is that they are completely
opposite big war views of what Ukraine is, what the
prince should be. And you haven't with the only thing
that the United People is the passport the same past.

(55:27):
But other than that, they have a completely different, opposite
war view. And I then and Obama before him in
twenty fourteen and all the globalism of Europe, they were
supporting the Ukrainians of the north and the west, and
Russia was supporting from the very early the Ukrainians of
the east and the south.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
So that country is going to split. That country is
gonna break up, right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yes, I mean that's it. I mean, according to what
Russia wants.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
And again, all these would have been prevented in March
of twenty twenty two in Istanbul Turkey. Amazing if if
Selenski would have signed that peace agreement on March of
twenty twenty two in Istanbul Turkey. You got that post
again by no, no, no, no, do not sign, do

(56:17):
not sign final to the LASU Trainian. He said Buddy
Johnson in a desperate flight to Kiev to persuade him
not to sign the agreement.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
And here's a here's the truth from Donald Trump. He says,
he's the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenski,
and America will not put up with it for much longer.
It is, it is what I was saying. This guy
doesn't want there to be peace as long as he
has America's backing and Europe in the meeting they had
was Zelenski stated flatly that they could not do the

(56:49):
job without the US. Probably not a great statement to
have made that have been made in terms of a
show strength against Russia. What are they thinking? Right? And
it's and you know, you go underneath there and it says,
you know, Ukraine. Selenski says, the end of war with
Russia is very very far away. So this guy doesn't
want piece. This guy doesn't want piece.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
That's the cause of the fight. You know that we
saw on the White House two completely opposite views thrown
one piece Tron one to stop Tron want to be
a piecemaker, a mediator, and this guy just came with
his saying bs that he had been spreading the war
for the last three years. Russia back mean good, white

(57:28):
and black war. Give me more money. That's it. That's
what caused this fight on the White House a few
days ago. Two completely opposite view of Trump and Selenski.
And now again the Europeans are going to give him
on life support or I don't know, six seven, eight months,
night months, maybe whatever. But he's basically a dead one walking.

(57:50):
He's as zombie walking, okay, and very soon in five, six, seven,
eight months, the corpse is going to be for everybody
to see, okay, and then your train is going to
be breaking down, and Roach is going to come with
a lot harsher measures, a lot lot harsher measures than
the one Rocher requested on March of twenty twenty two

(58:12):
in Istanbul, Turkey.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Hey, Ronnie, it's always a pleasure to have you man.
You're an encyclopedia, You're the professor when it comes to
foreign policy and intelligence. We need you know, keep coming back, brother,
We love you on the show. Nobody calls balls and
strikes better than you do. And where can they find you?
Where can they follow you? I know you have a
YouTube channel as well.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
We can follow me in x in Twitter, run a
Little XCI contractor also in YouTube, run a Little XA Contractor.
So you can follow me in Twitter or in YouTube
run a Little XA Contractor. And as always, thank you
very much for the opportunity that you give me here
to talk to to everybody who listened to the show
that I know is a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean we just got the rankings,
were you know, in the top two hundred one twenty seven.
Hopefully we're gonna break the top one hundred this month,
so we're excited with awesome guests like yourself of course,
so I appreciate it. Ronnie. We'll talk offline. I'll send
you the link later. Take care, Thank you, We'll see
you all right, guys. Hopefully you got a better view

(59:17):
of of of the the Russia Ukraine situation. It looks
like Lincey's gonna be dead. I'm not saying somebody's gonna
kill him, but you know, he's dead. He's done. I mean,
he just he committed harcury himself. You know, it doesn't
it doesn't appear like, uh like there is a path

(59:38):
to recovery for him. Okay, we're waiting for we're waiting
on a guest real quick. But let me see what
he says. So yeah, so you know that that that
that situation is is is uh ongoing. I don't know
how he's gonna recover. There have been some room is

(01:00:00):
about regime change and maybe even a coup in Ukraine.
And uh, there you go, there you go, so that
that you know that that that situation isn't a isn't
a unravel itself and and and come to conclusion. We

(01:00:22):
talked a little bit about earlier about the death of
a congressman, former Congressman Lincoln his Billard here in Florida.
I'm mister producer. I don't know if you have any
pictures over that. You know, a dear dear man, congressman father. Uh,
he was a leader. He you know, really stepped up
along with his brother Mario, who now serves in his

(01:00:45):
seat actually in Congress. But they started in the Florida
Legislature and and then Lincoln followed into the US House
of Representatives and he became the chairman of the of
the Rules Committee, which has most people know it's a
very very powerful committee. But you know, he was a
very strong supporter of freedom and democracy, especially in Latin

(01:01:07):
America when there was a big wave of communism into
the left, and you know, supported a lot of a
lot of the free trade agreements that you know, helped
you know, push you know, in the early two thousands
and in the past, you know, with with the government
of Peru in Colombia, with Blan Colombia, and with Peru

(01:01:28):
something called ATPA, which was the Indian Trade Promotion Act
and then it became the ad t PA DA, which
was the Ndian Trade Promotion Drug Eradication Act and pretty
much giving you know, Peru free trade status or the
US and with Blan Colombia the same thing with Columbia
in order to help these economies, you know, pull out

(01:01:50):
of misery and disaster in order to try and fight
not only drugs but also the terrorism and violence it
was going on in those countries. And you know, he
passed away and and and it's a shame. We're trying
to get somebody who knew Lincoln very very well. Is

(01:02:10):
he is he on yet? Okay, so you know, we
can talk about a little bit about his history, how
he started, some of the important things that he did
and you know, this gentleman is a Cuban American good friend.

(01:02:32):
He's you know, been in Florida politics for a long
long time. And uh, let's see if he let's see
if he joins. He said he's trying to join. He
is technically challenged, as I always tell him him and
technology are like oil and water. But let's see if
we can get him on. So anyways, as we figure

(01:03:05):
that out, we'll give him a minute. If not, we'll
just cut this off. And you know, and and and
it is what it is. But uh, but yeah, Lincoln
Lincoln was a great guy. He served along alongside with
Eleana Ross Layton and who was a chair for ever
over twenty years in Congress. And I think Lincoln retired
with eighteen years in Congress and then went off to

(01:03:27):
put an organization together to really promote you know, democracy
and freedom throughout the hemisphere. And just a good guy.
But you know, his father was also involved. I mean
his brother. Some of you guys probably know his other
brother whose ideas Belar, which is on MSNBC. But you know,
they they've been active in public and political life for

(01:03:50):
a long time. And it's the shame to see you know,
Lincoln pass away. Let's see he says he's joining. You

(01:04:13):
see him coming in all. I think we're gonna have
to call it a day here. But anyways, so like
we always say, you can find us on Rumble, you
can find us down on YouTube as well. We decided
to open up YouTube now that it's no longer cancel
culture and and censoring. They had put us with two

(01:04:35):
strikes because we happened to talk about the election in
twenty twenty. But obviously Trump winning that's changed. So we've
opened YouTube up again. You know, we had a tremendous
following and they killed it. Same thing at Facebook we
had put him on. We had over you know, one
hundred and fifty thousand you know, followers on a daily

(01:04:55):
basis over there, and they killed it. So you know,
who knows, but there he is to the great one.
Uh hoard, Hey, welcome to the show, Peal.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Thank you so much. I was having some technical difficulties
coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I was telling the audience, man, I was telling our
buddies that you're like oil and water when it comes
to technology, that I always give you shit about that,
and uh, I know you were gonna find a I
was gonna make you grin in in this very sad
moment because our friend Lincoln des Milord passed away. I
don't know how much you know about it, man, it

(01:05:30):
caught us totally unexpected. I didn't know he was sick
or it doesn't say the cause of death or anything.
But but uh, you know, a shame. You know. I
was hoping that you could share with us, you know,
your your relationship with him, your experience with him. He
was a longtime Florida guy like you. You guys have
been together in so many battles and so many fights.

(01:05:51):
You know. I got to know him, you know, in
the early two thousands, very very closely, Uh, when we
were negotiating the free trade agreements with Peru and Colombia
and all that. And he was very much involved, like
I said earlier, with at PA, with the Indian Trade
Promotion Act and then the at p DA, which was
the Indian Trade Promotion Drug or Redication Act. And he

(01:06:14):
was a you know, one of the main one of
the main fighters and defenders of pushing that ft A
with with Peru in the US and and and so
many other things that he's done. Uh, hopefully you can
shed some light on his on his background, some history,
and uh it's sages all yours bell.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Yeah, thank you Ivan. Uh it is indeed a sad,
sad day. Uh as I understand it. Lincoln, I probably
had lunch with him. Uh actually on uh you might
recall this on on our project at Americano Media. Uh
probably been now a year and a half, maybe a

(01:06:52):
little bit more than a year and a half. It
was a lunch I had with him and I Leanna Congress,
former congresswoman in ross Layton. And uh I I uh,
I felt that he was slowing down a little bit.
All I could say. Uh, I just just got got
that feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Maybe actually maybe it was two years ago, because it
was right at the beginning of our process. But anyway,
and uh and I understand he died from cancer, but
I thought he also had had Parkinson, So I think
he got pretty sick there towards the end of his life,
which is a shame.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
I guy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
So so, uh, you know, such a patriot, such a
strong uh force, and such a strong voice for freedom
and democracy and all the things that uh you could
have expected would be represented by a member of this
incredible family. But Lincoln must have not been more than

(01:07:53):
mid seventies, if I were to guess, I haven't looked
at at the exact date, but you know today for
today it's it's it's way too young. So it's a
real loss, it's a real shame. He was a second,
you know, most important member of Congress to come into
you know, power if you will, from that era. So
the first was Eleana Ross Layton, who, as you recall,

(01:08:14):
was the first uh Cuban American woman.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
And Lincoln joined her not much uh not much after that,
uh and uh it was an incredible partner to her,
a much needed partner to her, and a phenomenal uh
source of of Iliana's success and minted by her all

(01:08:39):
the way through uh the time that she becomes Chair
of the Foreign Relations and then obviously the many years
she had as a very successful Chair of Foreign Relations
was with Lincoln as her her wingman, incredible partner. And
you know, what really was important to Lincoln was freedom
and democracy, as I mentioned for needless to say, his

(01:09:00):
his homeland, Cuba, and and and you know, and the
rest of the countries in the hemisphere who have fallen
under this regretful uh situation. But he was always uh
uh you know, an early advocate for for doing the

(01:09:21):
right thing as it related to immigration. I don't remember that,
especially when it wasn't popular, right, because this this is
these immigration issue has taken a very interesting you know
evolution has all issues do. Especially when they don't get resolved,
they get to keep getting tossed down the road.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
But Lincoln thought for this issue, uh during a time
where the issue immigration was a very different, uh issue
than it is today.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Uh you know, and I think he.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Deserves an enormous amount of gratitude and and credit for
having done the right thing during all that time. Needless
to say, you mentioned free trade, and and he was
among our strongest partners during the Florida FTA effort that
we led for Governor Bush uh and needless to say,

(01:10:15):
the strongest member as it related to the bilateral free
trade agreements, whether it was Peru or Columbia or any KAFTA.
Uh back to NAFTA if you will.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
So that was when free trade was not a curse
word like it is today, right, when free trade was
a very popular, uh you know kind of objective.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Well, it served this purpose at the time, right, And
I still think it serves its purpose. Now, I think
what Trump is trying to do is just trying to
make it a little bit more balanced. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
But yeah, it's just a different time because the ality
of of some of these free trade agreements, uh was
that they were a great agreement for America and Americans,
and somehow because of the Union opposition, they got perceived
to be anti American and that was the greatest shame

(01:11:14):
because they were not. They were actually there are not
bad agreements for America, Americans and American business people. Uh,
you know, could have been better. Sure, they can always
be better. I've always believed. I think I've told you
this one hundred times, and I don't know that we
could have done a worst thing to call free trade
free trade because the only thing that it's not it's free,

(01:11:35):
and I think it gets everybody on defensive mode because
you're defending and protecting your own and free trade is
I think a total misnomer. Should have been called in
hands trade or who knows what it should have been called.
But free, it's just it isn't free, and never's free.
Nothing's free. But anyway, you know, back to Lincoln, I I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
You know exactly, I wanted to kind of bring you
back to Lincoln on the on the democracy thing is.
I remember he would hold rallies here in Miami with
the Hispanic community, the exile communities of Cuba and Venezuela, Peru, Colombia, whoever,
whenever they were facing you know, presidential elections in their
countries and they had a left wing or a communist candidate,

(01:12:22):
and he would come out and be very very vocal.
I remember him, and you know Fitt in the nineties
and the two thousands, you know, with the different different countries,
you know, really really being vocal and president and rallying,
you know, the the communities that were here, you know,
to make sure that they understood the difference and and

(01:12:44):
and voted correctly. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Yeah, there's no doubt, you know, Lincoln was you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
And consequently it became, after so many years he served
almost thirty years in the in the US House, UH,
came a uh you know, the father of all things
uh freedom and democracy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
In his help towards leadership, no matter what leadership of
the time. Uh, you know, no matter who was speaker
of the time, there was a constant reliance on Lincoln.
Diaz Balart, who was the stalwart whould actually you know,
uh always carried the banner, lead the effort uh and
and paved the way and fight to fight, like you're saying,

(01:13:27):
fight the good fight when nobody else was willing to
fight it uh against communism, against any any hint of
of communism or any iteration, any version of it under
a fancy new name.

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
He was very clearing and uh unequivocal.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
About his.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
His his fight for was all what was always right.
And again it's it's different, very different political times. Not
that that issues teams at all, uh, but it was
a much lonelier fight back then when he started this,
and I guess what I'm trying to say, there wasn't
the amount of uh of universal support, uh even bipartisan

(01:14:12):
support that you sometimes see on this issue, sometimes not always,
but sometimes. So he was a pioneer of sorts uh
and uh and really a as a result of patriot
for always pushing back and having zero tolerance towards any

(01:14:34):
anything that got you know, tried to be inserted by
calling it something else, and he would always uh you know,
call call call bullshit on it, if you will. And
for that he developed a great reputation, was the phenomenal
leader and uh, you know he he to a degree.
It's interesting because he almost sacrifices leadership roles, uh for

(01:15:01):
his deep ideological belief and commitment. Because it's not that
he was just a one issue guy, but he was
so committed to this issue that he probably was so
obsessively supportive and loyal to it that some would argue

(01:15:22):
along the way that if you would actually dedicate a
little bit more time to pick an issue transportation, infrastructure,
maybe he would get you greater opportunities to rise in leadership.
And he never ever waivered on this because he was
so committed to the issue. And and some would argue,
you know, depending on how you view this, that he

(01:15:43):
gave up, you know, very significantly powerful roles in Congress
for being so dedicated to this issue.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Yeah. Yeah, And he was a powerful speaker. Man. I'm
trying to get our producer here to see if you
can pull up any speeches on the House floor on
the democracy or freedom or anything like that. But he
was he brought passion, remember how he used to talk,
and you know, he was he was a man. He
was one of those guys.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Man the expression of the banging of the podium. Yes,
it was absolutely unequivocally instituted by ideas of a light.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
If it wasn't Lincoln, it was his father, his late father,
who was, as you know, another institution eminence in Cuba's
political process. Uh, he was actually speaker of the Cuban.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Did we lose him? Well, see if you got a
video of Lincoln, just put it up, all right, put
it up so people can see him. A speaker from Florida,
A speaker to what purposes, gentleman Florida was I asked,
what those guys who.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Will take a minute, a second minute of the speech.
By the third minute of the speech, boy, you know
he he's going for broke.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yeah, look at him. We got a speech right now.
Put it up there. Put it up there, let's see it,
mister speaker.

Speaker 7 (01:17:08):
In recent weeks, we have seen the issue of the
Western Sahara receive a great deal of coverage in the
world press. Unfortunately, the press coverage has often been biased.
In fact, I've seen cynical attempts at purposeful disinformation. I
think it's important that we remember history. Let's not forget

(01:17:29):
that while the Sahara was under Spanish colonial rule. Only
Morocco laid claim to that territory as its own. The
Kingdom of Morocco repeatedly claimed the Western Sahara and demanded
the end of Spanish colonial rule. It was only when
Morocco's efforts at recovering the Sahara from Spanish colonialism under

(01:17:50):
the leadership of King Hassan the Second began to be
seen as making serious progress in the early nineteen seventies
that the so called Satio Front came into being.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Yeah, that was a Lincoln. That's a Lincoln, I remember, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Maybe that's not the most fiery of them all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that reminds me of an.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Incredibly important attribute that we should not oversee. Uh and
and and really you know, and and and walking through
if you will, Lincoln's political life, public life is he
was an incredibly articulate man, incredibly incredibly well read.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Uh, super smart man, super.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Incredibly smart uh not to mention incredibly politically savvy. But
but but just just a historian as ever ever was
one to make of world history. Well, not a living
as a Latin America or Cuba, but really of world history.
And and and that tidbit just reminded me of that,
which I'm so glad we didn't forget mentioning because he

(01:18:52):
deserved a lot of credit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Yeah, he was always even when he was in the
Florida Legislature, I remember him giving the he's incredibly articular
speeches that half of the room was lost. I hate
to say, uh, just because they were not equal historians
like to the level he was. But he he just
carried on and incredible just really uh a rare uh

(01:19:16):
sort of a rarity and and and and and and
politics uh down here and and really among the reasons
why he made such a great team member with Congresswoman
Chairwoman Leana Ross Layden just because that was not Ileana
style and I was just really rais I'm sorry, an
incredibly good politicians, great operative, great people person Uh so

(01:19:42):
they would really balance each other so so well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Uh put that first one up there, mister Bruser. Yeah.
The Ladies and White, that was a passionate one.

Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
Objection the speaker of The Ladies and White are a
group of wives, mothers, sisters, and daughters of Cuban political prisoners.
The group came together after the arrests of seventy five
Cuban dissidents. In April two thousand and three, seventy five
Cuban political prisoners who seven years ago joined the thousands

(01:20:13):
of others who are in prison in Cuba because of
their political beliefs or for crimes that are only crimes
in a country brutally oppressed by a tatalitarian regime of gangsters,
by gangsters, and four gangsters, because that is what the
Castro brothers are gangsters. Fidel Castro has been a gangster

(01:20:34):
ever since he was a juvenile delinquent. He became a
Communist to give ideological clothing to his gangsterism. Raoul Castro
came to gangsterism via Marxism Leninism after his brother sent
him as an almost illiterate adolescent to then Czechoslovakia, where
he received a rigorous indoctrination in Marxism Leninism. So the

(01:20:57):
brothers arrived at gangsterism via separate path. Yes, but they
are both experienced and ruthless practitioners in the most violent
and brutal forms of gangsterism. The ladies in white experienced
the tactics of the Castros gangsterism every single day. The
Castros state security apparatus pays and trains thugs to strike

(01:21:18):
fear in the hearts of all Cubans.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Next up, you got another video in there, teat up right.
He was great, wasn't he.

Speaker 7 (01:21:27):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Dude? I love the Lincoln man. I remember when I
was a President of the Chamber back in two thousand
and three, two thousand and five, we gave him an
award for his uh, for his undeniable friendship and UH
and fighting side by side for you know, those free
trade agreements, and especially for the fight you know, anti

(01:21:50):
anti drugs, the anti drug fights, you know in the regent.
Tee it up. Let's see which one we got here
to make a statement. Here we go, enough is it enough?

Speaker 8 (01:22:01):
Enough of these bailouts so that millionaires can become billionaires
and billionaires can give their crownies uh bonuses with taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 7 (01:22:14):
Enough is enough and we can vote on it right now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
That's Lincoln, bro, that is Lincoln deals right there. He
was a fucking badass, dude. What was the what was
the issue there that was on the bailouts, on the
bailouts of the banks and all that crap. Remember when
when the collapse happened and he was anti the bailout
I remember, like so many of us were, you know,
but they bailed them out the whole you know package

(01:22:41):
at the end of Bush that that that Obama Bush right,
the stimulus, the Portculus bill, the Porculous Bills bill. I
can't remember how fucking it was. Insane. It was like
almost a trillion dollars and then they fucking rammed his
omnibus bill right behind it for other three hundred or
four hundred billion. It was insane, dude, it was. And

(01:23:04):
it was all laced with pork for Democrats. I don't
know how that fucking shit went through, man. But Lincoln
was right. He was right on. He was right then,
and he was you know, he.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Was always like good sausage making. That's the way it happens,
right yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
What a shame, bro, What a shame. His brother Mario
obviously sits in a seat. I think he's doing a
good job, right yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
He and he is a little different style. But but
as far as uh unequivocal behavior, clarity, he's no different.
I mean, he's really been a member who's really uh
you know, you know, delivered.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
First of all, I've been loyal, no different than his
brother was his community never has waivered. Yeah, and and uh,
you know, interestingly enough, has had a role in leadership
outside of the traditional issues. Let's say it's call those
for lack of a better word, like he is a
chair of Infrastructure under in Transportation, which is an incredibly

(01:24:06):
powerful role. If he chairs the budgetary aspect of all that,
it's an incredibly powerful role. And it's almost like he
decided to go a route a little different because he
didn't want to be the one issue guy, but rather
be a much more effective member and a much more
powerful member. And that's what he's done. Mar's done a

(01:24:27):
phenomenal job, and all things mean equal, he'll be in
that seat, so he wishes, and currently is in the
probably the most powerful role he's ever been in the
committee that he's serving in. And it's just by taking
the same commitm maybe well to the core issues, but

(01:24:48):
just varying, you know, dedicating a little bit of time
outside of the traditional issue, which I think is this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
And I think we lost him. Yep, we lost them. Well,
we'll call it a day here, We'll call it a day. Hopefully.
You guys learned a lot on the Russian Ukraine, and
you know, we try to do this, you know, off
the cuff, on the fly, finding out that you know,
our old friend Lincoln had passed away, trying to at

(01:25:19):
least memorialize a little bit about him. There he is,
he's back. We're about to shut it down, or any
last words on on on Lincoln. I saw Jose just
posted something on X. I think everybody's kind of it's
gonna be uh, it's gonna be interesting several days, I
think the rest of the week here in Miami. Right,
it's it's gonna be all about Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's a great it's a
great family. It's a great siblings. Uh, Rapha being the oldest,
who's a businessman, if you will, Uh Jose being next
in line, having been uh the career news guy and
and been very very successful at it, you know, which

(01:26:01):
is not an easy challenge based on his ideology.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
And finally we've had Mario, which is the youngest, who
has followed lincoln footsteps and done an extraordinary job. So
I'm sure the three of them this week are gonna
be uh quite busy paying your tribute memory of his brother,
their brother who really you know, left such an amazing
legacy for for the rest of the family, for and

(01:26:29):
for the and for the community, uh, for for forever.
So it's it's a sad moment. It's also it's also
a great celebration of a great life, uh, dedicated to
the cause of freedom and democracy that we should you know, uh,
you know we're gonna miss eternally, but again we should

(01:26:50):
just you know, take the opportunity to celebrate it, because uh,
we owe him a hell of a debt of gratitude
for all everything he did.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
I think the entire hemisphere does without a doubt out.
I don't think anybody can debate that. The other thing
Jorge is, you know, he fought so hard for to
see a freak Cuba, and you know, I think we're
real close. I think with this administration, I could boss
what happen. It's a shame he's not gonna get to
see it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Amen from your mouth a guy's ears. Oh amen, All.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Right, brother, I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
It's always a pleasure. We got to sit down and
uh and talk politics. Uh. We haven't done that in
in in in a little while. So you know, I'll
talk to you offline. We'll get you scheduled, and there's
so much to talk about, man, and uh and going
back to uh, make make America Florida. Wow was that? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Has that come to fruition or what? Jesus, Oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Lord, it's uh, it's uh, it's happened. It really is happening,
that's for sure. It's incredible. I mean, no surprise, but
never thought it would have been to this magnitude. Yeah,
it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Well, we got to seek, we got to set it up,
we got to talk about that. Make America Florida has happened,
and what does that mean? How do you see the
next four years and all that. Let's let's get you
let's get your book hopefully this week if we can.
You got it. We got it done, Ali, brother, I
appreciate you. Take care of it. All right, guys, there
it is man, that's the show. It's a wrap. You

(01:28:19):
know where to find us Rumble, YouTube and on every
single podcast platform Spotify, Apple, iHeart, Spriaker, Stitcher, Pandora, Amazon Music, Audible.
I don't know, there's a million podcasts Podbean. I don't know,
there's like a bazillion of these. But we'll see you tomorrow.

(01:28:41):
By the way, I have been talking to you guys
about having the pot lobbyists. He is scheduled for this Friday,
So we're going to talk about what is going on
with the cannabis marijuana lobby in Congress. Is it going through,
is it not going through, is it ever going to
go through? Is it good? Is it bad? What are
the pros, what are the cons. We'll have an open,

(01:29:01):
like all of our conversation, very open dialogue. If you
guys have any questions, shoot him over and we'll see
you tomorrow.

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