S2E5: Free Speech, Media, USAID, Trump, immigration.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to igh going rogue today. It's Friday, February the seventh,
and what a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's been. What a week.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
This has been absolutely spectacular with so much newsbreaking. And
I gotta break something up because I think it's fucking hilarious.
Is I saw a tweet by Trump that said he
is signing an executive order next week to end paper
straws and bring him back to plastic draws. I think
everybody's going to welcome that. But holy shit, the fucking

(00:54):
barometer on that guy goes from zero to sixty in
about a second, from one one one one extreme to
the other. We're here with with a good friend of ours,
Rick Sanchez. Everybody knows them, uh Peabody and he's Golden
Gloves Grammys. Who knows. He's a legend in his own
right a myth. Hey, if anybody's from South Florida, you

(01:19):
know Rick. He started this whole boom breaking crap when
nobody was doing it. It was really cool. It's fascinating. I
think everybody was hooked, especially your hurricane coverages. They lasted
for like a week and a half. They're fantastic. WSVN
could just reel you in, suck you in, and keep

(01:39):
you in. You get you know, on the market.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
One of the coolest things in my career was when
President Bush Senior came to South Florida and presented me.
You know, you remember you got to be old to
remember this ship. But I'm gonna tell you about it. Anyway,
those those of you who are millennials watching us right
now probably don't even know what the hell this is.
So President Bush started this thing called President Bush Senior.

(02:05):
He started this thing called the Thousand Points of Light,
and every month he would choose one American and give
them the one thousand Points of Light Award. And after
I did the coverage I did of Hurricane Andrew, where
I think I moved like two hundred million pounds of
supplies into an area that had been hit by what

(02:27):
was at the time the worst hurricane in the history
of the United States, Hurricane Andrew, Bush came down and
he anointed me the one thousand Points of Light Award,
and I was chosen for it. And I was also
given the distinction of the United States Broadcaster of the Year,
an award presented to me by Dan Rather by the way,

(02:47):
So in that same week. I had Dan Rather come
down and George Bush come down, and they both gave
me different awards, two guys who, by the way, did
not get along.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, no, no, not at all. And for what it's worth,
that was a crazy hurricane. By the way, holy crap
and totally wiped out, totally wiped out. Home said, I
mean it was crazy. Hey, so it's been a crazy week.
I know you're a.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Fair fire hose.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well, yes, so you're a fair guy. You're a journalist.
You're not a partisan hack like me.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Hey man, I call it like it is.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, I'm a fucking dick. I don't care, and
you know I'm gonna fucking smash him.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know. But but here's the reality. You see both sides.
You know, if you're a Fox, you're an OI n Newsmax.
You know whoever you watch, you know, have you know,
see Bannon, whoever you're gonna hear about this disgusting corruption
waste uh machine that is being uncovered daily, you know

(03:51):
by Doge and and and that whole operation.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Let's but what you just said.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Is very interesting because I completely and this is one
of the things I've been thinking about lately, and I'm
glad you're giving me an opportunity to do it. All
these guys on the on the right who are saying
this are full of shit in many ways because they're
associating what Trump's doing to a right wing or Republican movement. Bullshit.

(04:19):
What Trump is doing is Trump. What Trump is doing
has nothing to do with the left because the people
he's taking down are Republicans and Democrats. Let me finish
because I'm pissed off about this. There is no difference
in my mind between Nancy Pelosi and McConnell. None. Zer.
You're both corrupts, they both take money, they both do
illicit wars, they both do all the same shit. So

(04:41):
when every time I hear these people on the right
going are, yeah, Trump's getting rid of the libtards, No,
Trump's getting rid of all the shit that's wrong, and
it's been created and still being manifested by both Republicans
and Democrats.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Exactly, it's a political class. Is the establishment on both
sides that are fucking corrupt to the And I was
gonna and I was gonna bring up the other the
other piece of the argument is, you know, you listen
to morning, Joe. You listen to Joe and Mika and whoever,
Rachel and anybody you want, and they're going not saying
this is on constitutional They're destroying the poor kids in
Sudan and the you know, farmers in Mozambique and what

(05:19):
the fuck ever.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And You're like, dude, I mean, are we living in? What?
What kind of world are we living on? I was like,
there's got to be a reality somewhere.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
They're protecting the turf. I mean, you know these are
people who've I mean, Nika, you know where father is.
Oh yeah, I mean, are you kidding talking about deep state?
I mean, you you want to talk about US a
i D. The very thing which mister Trump just said,
I'm tired of us a i D. They're going back
in the fold and they're not going to be told
what to do. They're not going to tell us what

(05:50):
to do. There's no question that US a i D
was essentially acting as if it was the CIA, and anyways,
in many ways it was the CIA, and it acts
outside the orders, command and manifestations of the President of
the United States and even the Congress, the Senate, and
the State Department. They were just doing their own thing.
They were cowboying it. Man, they were freelancing, and mister

(06:12):
Trump just came in and said, uh uh, the gig
is up.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So now we're.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Learning this agency, which they were using my tax money
and your tax money, was out there doing all kinds
of nefarious thing. They're supposed to be a quote humanitarian
developmental agency. To me, that means you go around the
world singing Kumbaya, opening churches, making peace with people, helping

(06:38):
people establish new ways of maybe keeping their water clean,
that kind of thing. Bullshit. USAID was just as involved
with NGOs, non governmental agencies which were not in any
way non governmental by the way, in coudatas in taking
down democratically elected leaders, in starting different conflagrations all over

(07:02):
the world. The hell do you think got us into
this disaster of a situation we're in right now in Ukraine?
Who the hell do you think got us into the
Iraq War? So why do you think Mika Brazinski and
Joe and Liz Cheney and a gentleman I had on
my podcast yesterday who used to be the director of
USA I D who says it's a great organization that's

(07:25):
done nothing good. It helps children and you know, it's
peace loving, and I say, and apparently mister Trump and
mister Rubio are saying, they're calling bullshit because what we're
finding out is that they've done all kinds of nefarious thing,
not including paying journalists. Can you imagine we've just learned,

(07:46):
as I'm sure you're caught up on this as well, Ivan,
that usai D was paying different journalistic entities. Most noteworthy
is the Politico, so I checked yesterday. I'll just say
one more thing, because I think this is interesting. Being
a reporter, I spend my life gathering information and looking

(08:10):
and looking for sources and stuff. So yesterday when I
read that USAID had apparently given upwards of millions of
dollars eight million dollars or something like that to Politico,
which they're saying they were just subscriptions, Well, who gives
a shit. Could you imagine if you and I and
you and I have talked about, you know, starting a
startup to create something like political but for Hispanics. Could

(08:33):
you imagine if all we had to do is call
somebody in the government of mister Trump or mister Biden
or mister whatever, mister Obama and say, hey, if you
could just spot us eight million dollars to start our company. Man,
we would be off and running. And you don't have
to like write a check. Just make your employees enough

(08:54):
of them buy subscriptions so we can total eight million
and then our startup is going to be.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
So by the way, it was eight million, it was
eight million last year.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Is twenty six million total, and you know it's it's
it's crazy there it is twenty nine million. Look at that,
Thank you lord, And it tells you every agency that
bought it, not just it's one million.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
It's wrong. So when you give money. And by the way,
and here's what's really wrong. And I'm going to tell
you from a journalistic standpoint, Yeah, it's okay to have
a relationship with a government entity as long as it's disclosed,
right if I if before I start my podcast, I
tell you, hey, hi, everybody, welcome to journalistically speaking. This

(09:37):
is a podcast I like to do every week. You know,
I love to talk about geopolitics, and I should let
you know that, you know, this podcast has a business
or a fiduciary relationship with X. You know, maybe it's
a coffee company, maybe it's you, maybe it's you know,
I should disclose that I have a relationship with you know,
with Tucker Carlson or with you know, don Donald Trump Junior.

(10:01):
Disclose it now everybody knows, okay, So just in case,
you should know that me and Donald Trump Junior are
friends and I've gotten to know him over the years.
So maybe that might color some of the things that
I do and say. But if you don't disclose it
and then I find out that you were getting this
money from Donald, I'm just making this suff Donald Trump
Junior is not sending me money, but then you find

(10:22):
out setting what a great guy he is. So you know,
that's what Political has been doing. I went and checked yesterday.
So this is this thing I was trying to tell
you Ivan yesterday. When I read this story, the first
thing I did, journalistically speaking, is I went and checked
to see what kind of stories Political was writing about

(10:43):
certain things. I checked Ukraine for example. Every story they've
written is pro Zelenski, anti Russia for example. Where do
they get that narrative that's the official narrative of the
US State Department Department under Anthony Blincoln. So what are
they pushing? The people who are paying them are getting
the result of the story they paid for positive stories

(11:04):
about their particular policies. That's bullshit and that's not what
journalism is supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
And you know, look this week we had a former
CIA guy and he came out straight up and he said, look,
the you know usai e is is a CIA outfit. Yeah, sure,
they do some charity work.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
You're in there, but.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's really it's really to do exactly what you said
to do soft coups, you know, because.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
For those of you who don't know this, So here's
what happened when Evan and I are going to give
you a little history because we're both Latinos and we
both know the history of what happened with the CIA
during the nineteen fifties and the nineteen sixties. And the
CIA got caught, right, they got caught with their hands
in the cookie jar. They got caught trying to assassinate Allende.
Actually they kind of did assassinate Agenda. So they interfered

(11:47):
in elections and the policies and the governments in Panama, Guatemala,
Dominican Republic, Iran, and you know, in Guatemala they basically
went in the Dulles brothers and using the CIA and
marines and stuff. They did a coup, took out a
democratically elected president, put in another guy, started the Civil War.

(12:08):
Two hundred thousand people died. So you know when and
I don't even like to say we did this. Certain
corrupt assholes in our government did this. Who run those
kind of establishments. So what happened was they had these
things called the Church Committee. The Church Committee was a
committee that was held in the US Congress where they
looked at the CIA and they basically told to say,
what are you guys doing. You can't just cool around

(12:30):
willy nilly on your own assassinating leaders around the world,
killing people, starting revolutions and civil wars and changing elections.
You got to stop this shit. It's too much. You
were out of control, which they were, and we as
Americans all realized that they needed to be at least
held back or measured. So they needed another way to
continue to do this later on, and that's where usaid

(12:53):
was poor. There you go little history lists.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, but it's true.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's absolutely true, you know, and it's a shame. And
look if you even go further, you know, I I
bring this story up. You know, all the time projectly
in the you know, the kidnapping, torture and assassination of
DA special agent Gee come out in a in Mexico
by the Cartels. I mean, we know the person who

(13:17):
hector by ares accused in the CIA of turning over Kiki.
You know, he's a long time cute American guy. We
we you know here in Miami, we know who he is.
He's much older now, you know, in his eighties or
close to ninety. Uh So I'm not you know, you
can do your own research and figure out who it is.
I'm not gonna throw this this gentleman over the under

(13:38):
the bus right now.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
But that's real ship, dude.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
And they use that for arms with the with with
the whole round contrast stuff, you know, with all Ali
North and dude, it's the CIA has always been out
of control. I don't think it's ever going to stop.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I mean, do you know, listen, I'm an American and
I want what works for my country, and if there's
some muscle that needs to be used from time to
time because we're up against a terrorist organization or something
that is truly nefarious and a danger to me, my family,
my children, and my country I'm all for it, but

(14:16):
as long as and it's funny, it's taken Donald Trump,
of all people, to step into the White House. Reagan
didn't do it, Clinton didn't do it, Bush didn't do it.
Bush didn't do it. Obama didn't do it, and the
old the other Donald Trump apparently wasn't able to do it.
It's taking Donald Trump to step in there and say,
wait a minute, why are we electing a president and

(14:38):
then having agencies acting outside the purview of the president
telling the president what to do. Shouldn't it be the
other way around. Shouldn't the president, elected by the people
be deciding if we're going to change a government somewhere
in the world or start a coup or send in
the Marines to the CIA, or you know, not that

(14:59):
we need to nick take everything they do, but there
should be a certain you know, accountability. Agree. That's what
I think mister Trump is doing.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I don't agree with everything he's doing. I definitely agree
with all he's doing, much of what the DOSEE efforts
and other efforts are doing, because, as I see it,
it's just accountability. It's making the people who work in
our government accountable to us because we didn't vote for them,
and those sons of bitches have been there for thirty
forty years doing whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
The famous the famous deep set right, the famous deep
Saint that everybody said, oh that's bullshit. Those are conspiracy
theory as well, you know, fuck it, it seems pretty
real now, right.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
So exactly, it's interesting that you bring.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Up Trump because and you know, and you made those
comments earlier about the right and the left and everybody's
full shit is I think people don't understand that Trump
is not an ideologue. He's not a conservative, he's not
this right wing guy. He's not this, you know, whatever
they want to call him. You know, he's a pragmatic

(16:01):
business guy that's using common sense. And he and he
keeps on bringing it up. He's like, you know, I'm
just bringing common sense to government, That's all I'm doing,
you know, and back to and back to America where
it belongs, because we've lost it a long time ago.
And you know, people get caught up in these labels
and then don't realize, dude.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
He's not this.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
He's not Bush, he's not he's not he's not Reagan
on the on the ideological ideological spectrum, you know, he's
a very pragmatic guy, and he says, dude, this is
fucked up.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I don't you know what.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I think he can't help himself. I think it's either
because deep down he's just an asshole and that's a
good thing, ye, Or maybe he's just a pragmatist, as
you say, or maybe he just has this uh desire
that he can't seem to in any way control, which

(16:54):
I have too. My wife always says, man, you just
you can't control yourself when you when you know, I'll
be Susanna and I will be out, you know, at
dinner and somebody at the other table will say something
really stupid and I'll literally just, you know, correct them,
and she goes, what are you doing there? So what
you don't have to make everything right in the world. Well,

(17:17):
I think maybe to a certain extent, mister Trump has
that that same characteristic that to a fault, you know,
where sometimes I come off as an asshole and my
wife tells me, you know, that was stupid. You were
in a restaurant having a nice dinner. Who gives a
shit what they think? Why did you have to correct them?
But Trump has that tendency too, and the other presidents didn't.

(17:37):
So there's a wonderful conversations. When Tucker went and talked
to Putin, there was one thing I took out of
that conversation. I talked to Tucker about this, and I
talked to some of my sources in Moscow about this
as well, which I thought was fascinating. So this short story,
but it proves the point that we're trying to make here.
So mister Putin, says Tucker. He says, look, I said

(18:00):
to Condolleza Rice, and I'll show you the date, and
he did. We had a meeting on such and such
a date. You know how Putin is very specific about this.
He's a kind of nerdy, pragmatist kind of way. And
he says, on such and such a date, I met
with missus, you know, Condoleeza Rice, and I told her
exactly this, this and this, and I suggested to her,
I said, look, would you go back and have a
conversation with mister with your president? And she said no,

(18:21):
I'll talk to him right now. Let's get him on
the phone. Has a conversation with President Bush and he says, look,
let's do this. You and I should start creating something.
We have seven thousand nuclear warheads. You guys have six
five hundred nuclear warheads. Let's put them together together. We, Russia, you,
the United States will protect the world from all these
nefarious actors and all these terrorists, and we will create

(18:44):
one kind of dome, one shield to make sure we
don't have to be opposed to each other. We will
never attack you, you will never attack us, and we
will protect the world. Condolleza says, great idea. George Bush says,
great idea. They take it back to whoever these people
at usaid for all I know, these people in the

(19:04):
Deep State. They go back and they go nope. So
the President of the United States tells mister Putin, sorry,
we brought it up back in Washington, and they don't
want to do that. Another example Putin apparently was meeting
with Clinton. He says to Clinton, why do you guys
not let me be a part of NATO. We officially
we want to join NATO. Why have us as an

(19:24):
enemy when you can have us as a part of
the group. I mean, you're gonna save money. I don't
I'm not gonna attack you guys. You guys don't attack
me that way, we can be a part of the group,
and then we got meetings that we can work things out.
Mister Clinton says to mister Putin, this is all true.
By the way, you can look at it and look
at the interview you did with Tucker. Uh. Mister Clinton says,
you know what, I think that's a bad idea. I'm

(19:45):
gonna go take that back. Mister Clinton takes it back.
Then they call Moscow or whoever the hell these Russian
dudes are over there. Sorry, we can't do it. We
prefer to have you as an enemy. Now, do you
whose decision was that? Was that mister Clinton's decision, in
mister Bush's decision of miss Company's a red decision or
was that somebody else making that decision? And that's my point,

(20:06):
mister Trump is different from those guys because those agencies
that you and I are talking about, that's in the
news that on this day they controlled Obama. Look what
he did in Syria and Libya. They controlled Clinton, no question.
Look what they did in Sarajevo and other parts of
the Baltics, which is again an act of aggression on
the part of NATO, which is supposed to be a

(20:27):
defensive force. They controlled mister, mister Carter, everybody. They basically
told those guys what to do, and along comes this dude,
you know, Trump, of all people, and he's the one
telling him the gig is up, the party's over. From
now on. We don't take orders from you. We give

(20:47):
orders to you. I find that fascinating, the story of
our time.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I think it's healthy.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think it's good for transparency, and I think it'll
level the playing field for a little bit. But Trump's
not gonna be around for everybody forever, right, He's only
got four years and then you know, look, the deep
state is like a cancer. It's never gonna go away.
You know, it can go into remission.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I hate to be negative like that, but man, it's
an animal that's been around for a long, long fucking time,
you know, and I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
You can tame it.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
So you sent me, you know, this commentary that that
that you posted, and I'm gonna read it if you
don't mind, So for full disclosure, everybody knows, you know, Fox, MSNBC, CNN,
And then you did a stint at RT and then
Biden shut that down and shut you down. So your

(21:42):
your comment is restoring my First Amendment rights as a journalist. Today,
I call on the Trump administration to reinstate my first
Amendment right to practice journalism, or right unjustly stripped from
me by the previous administration and politically motivated continuation of
a debunk Russia Gate narrative which we all know is
the Russian hoax.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well, I am not partisan, which is true. You are
far from partisan. Some people even claim you are lefty
by the way. As you know, I share the belief
of President Trump, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Ambassador
Richard Gurnell that engagement with Russia is a more productive
path than avoidance. As an award winning journalist, managing editor
and host on RT, I have dedicated years to fostering

(22:25):
a deeper understanding between Americans and Russians, administrating that we
have far more in common than our governments would have
us believe. Truthful reporting Foster's Dialogue promotes understanding and paves
the way of peace. I urge you this administration to
restore my ability to continue this crucial work and help
rebuild the bridge that the binding administrations will reculas you destroyed.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
So talk to us about that.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Well, for starters. I do truly believe that there are
no issues more important in our lifetime and for our
children and grandchildren than more in peace. And I also
believe that very few administrations have handled worse the issues
of war and peace than the Biden administration have. I
also believe that the Biden administration has a vendetta against Russia,

(23:12):
not necessarily because of anything Russia has done, but because
they fear that somehow Russia has a relationship with Donald
Trump and the Republicans, which is not true. By the way,
there is no special relationship between Donald Trump and Russian
and Russia. Yet factions within the Democratic Party and certainly

(23:36):
mister Biden, are like a dog with a bone, and
they're just not going to let that go, even though
we all know it's been disproven. In their minds, it
still has. So all those three things I think we
can all stipulate.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Right, That's right.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
So here I go, and after working, as you said,
on all these other places, I'm offered a job at RTE.
Larry King, an old friend of mine who used to
work in CNN since past God bless him. Good guy,
called me one day and said, Ricky, let me tell
you something you know, they don't interfere with my narrative.
They don't tell me what to say. We have an agreement.
I pick my own guests, I do my own stories,

(24:12):
and they've hired me to do this, and I'm happy
with it. I said, well, you know, Larry, I trust you.
You and I worked together for many years. We've known it.
We're both Miami guys. And at the time I thought
it was a good idea. I started working for them.
I thought, well, it turns out I experienced more journalistic freedom,

(24:33):
more less control over my narrative there than I did
when I worked at CNN, and oftentimes when it came
to push or shove at RT and there were issues where,
you know, we had disagreements about editorial issues, I won
seventy five percent of the time when I'd say no, no, guys,

(24:53):
I'm sorry, I'll give you. I'll give you an example.
They wanted me to not call mister Biden after he
beat mister Trump four years ago, the president elect. He said,
don't use the term president elect. I said, that's the
term we use in the United States right now. I mean,
I know this can go to the courts. And maybe

(25:14):
there was something and maybe it'll change, but right now,
because the votes have been canvassed officially, journalistically speaking, we
call him the president elector I said, you can't call
the president. I said, look, if I can't call the
president elect, I'm leaving and you can find somebody else
to do your newscast tonight, because that's what we do. Sorry,
you're right, and we're going to respect. I mean, it
was that kind of thing where we would have disagreements.

(25:36):
They once wanted me to interview one of their ambassadors,
and I said, and they send me questions. I said,
I don't accept questions. I don't accept questions. That's unethical
and it's irresponsible, and that's not why journals and practice.
I'll do the interview with him, and I can't give
him my questions ahead of time. We can have a conversation.
I'm not an idiot. We can have a conversation about
what we're going to be talking about, so he knows

(25:57):
and can prepare. But I'm not sending him questions and
I'm fucking accepting his question right, Okay, Sorry, we made
a mistake, you know. So let me tell you something. Man,
When I worked in corporate media in the United States,
the CNNs and the MSNBC's talk about getting questions, they're
written for you. They were prepared, The guests were screened.

(26:19):
Certain people were allowed to be on the air. Other
people were not allowed to be on the air. Certain
people were kept off the air unless they knew they
were going to say something friendly to them. So my
general point is, I journalistically had the right to work,
first of all, for whoever the hell I want to
even if it's Satan, if Satan tomorrow decided to start

(26:39):
a corporate network or whatever, I should have the right
to work for. You know, obviously I'm kidding. I'm a
Christian worshi of Catholics. You know, your mother and my
mother taught us to hate it. So I'm just making
the point. It's not the government's place to pick winners
and losers. So, knowing that mister Rubio and mister Trump
have said that they're going to effort to try and

(27:01):
create better relations with Russia, knowing that I have already
experienced many, many years of working with the Russians and
have done sound journalism where I've criticized mister Trump and
criticized both Biden and uh god, I forgot her name. Anyway, Hillary, No,
the lady who ran for pres.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Oh my god, Jesus, you believe I just forgot her days?
And because I always had that. All I'm saying is,
with all that set, Sorry, I went around a long
way to say it, I'm asking the Trump administration to
get it to get rid of a specific sanction. Not
to get rid of the sanction, but to give me permission,
to give me an exception, a license to simply practice

(27:43):
my craft as a journalist, which because of those crazy
sanctions the Biden administration did, I'm being disallowed right now,
as a real authentic American journalist from practicing my craft
as a journalist.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
But only with art, that's right, But only with art,
that's what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, yeah, or any other section, minnity, I think I'm
not allowed to like you know, I'm not saying I
want to work for the Chinese or for the Iranians
and for the art. But I should be able to
work for whoever the hell I want to work for.
Because going back to start saying you can't work for
our tea, tomorrow they'll say you can't work for Fox.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well, and going back to our T. I mean, dude,
like you said, Larry King was there. They have Scottie there,
I mean Scotty.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Is, Dennis, Dennis Miller, they had me, they had that
Ed there. Well, some of the people that mister Trump
is now named Ed Martin, who's now mister Trump's budget
director is uh was It was on our te, was
on my show every day, you were on my show

(28:42):
on RTE.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I mean yeah, I was on your show. I was
on Scotty's, I was on Ed Schultz's show, and.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
And we disagreed. On your show, you were going way
out to the right, and I had to bring you
back because that's not okay. You're acting like a maniac.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, but it was fine, man, That's that's that's the
whole point, you know that America.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, you know, you gotta you gotta have a you
gotta have a good time.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
And you Now I look back, and I think it
turns out you were right. I was. I was full
of shit. I mean I was here. I was trying
to defend the damn saying nah, and you were going no, Rick,
these guys are going too far and they're crazy, and
I was saying no, no, no, don't name Calit.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm going to tell you something you should have named caled.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
You were right.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I'm gonna tell you something back in twenty ten. I'm
not going to say who I said this to, but
you know I brought it up to, you know, a
former assistant secretary of State, and I said, Obama's using.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
The I R S.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
He's like, dude, you're fucking crazy. He's like, you're now
now you're weighing the fucking end zones. You're in crazy land.
The moment the government weaponizes against his own people is
the moment we ceased to exist as America. You're fucking bananas, dude,
whatever you're fucking drinking or taking, Dude, wean off of it.

(29:59):
You know, you don't want to fucking be, you know,
one of those fucking crazies, you know. Blah blah blah.
Two years later, when the story broke, the first fucking
call on my cell phone was this ambassador and he goes, dude,
I owe you an apology. Holy shit, that is fucked up.
I said, dude, I told you man, I mean. And
it's funny because I was talking to SEEIA guy the

(30:19):
other day this week and I said isn't it funny
that all these people that were labeled conspiracy theorists, how
a lot of that has come to be true. And
he goes, well, not all of it, but a lot
of it. You know, there are still some fucking crazy
people out there. And I said, yeah, but you know
a lot of it. And he was telling me about

(30:40):
this red cell at the Agency. I don't know if
you know what that is, but it's it's a team
that chases down these conspiracy theories to find out if
it's true. And he was telling me, He's like, you know,
because usually when you have these conspiracy theories, there's some
truth about it. They're just way off to the fucking
way out there on it.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
But no, listen, there's no question in my mind.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Like this whole thing about comic Peach, like comic comic
like not talk about that, but like comic Pet's in
DC and Tonnel's under the Clinton's home with you know,
trafficking miners and drinking baby blood and that's bullshit. All
this crap was crap. But was there a pedophilia in Hollywood?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
So they take one thing, but to your point, but
to your point, yes, I will admit that I gave
much more credit and room to the Democratic Party than
I should have, because I I didn't think they were
capable of some of the things they have since done.

(31:42):
And if ever it got if ever that was shown
to me was during this last administration, was also.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Republicans, Rick, like you said earlier, Yeah, I think it's
a political class in general. Dude, they are corrupt and
discussing and heinous and look, like I said, Trump's not
four years. You know what happens after that? Do we
go back to the same crap or did he change
a Republican party? Because a lot of people have voted

(32:09):
for Trump seventy whatever million, They're not all Republicans, you know,
I have friends, there were lifelong Democrats that voted for Trump.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
And let's talk for a minute about what Trump is doing,
because I do believe here's I'm gonna I'm kind of
I'm kind of in the middle about this. I haven't
really formulated at all. I don't agree with some of
his measures in the way he's going about it, but
I'm liking the results. So I'm kind of going back

(32:41):
to the theory that you can't make an omelet without
breaking some eggs. It's just impossible. And I think he
may be breaking some rules, maybe he's doing some non
standard things that may or may not be legal or

(33:02):
correct based on whatever the measure of that is. I'm
not the one to decide. Those who disagree should take
it to the court. And if they prove that he
can't do that because he's taking powers that don't belong
to him, then fine, prove it and we'll find a
way to do it. But what I'm saying to my
friends and all who will hear me, is you can't

(33:26):
argue with the man's intentions, and you can't argue with
the majority or most of the results that we're getting
from these actions. And thank god, somebody's actually finally taking
actions on some of these issues which have been festering
for decades in our country. So on the one hand,

(33:48):
I'm thinking, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't you
can't just go in there and fire people milly willy
in an agency. And on the other hand, I'm going.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
God, Doug it, maybe they should be fired. I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Don't know, We're we're going through an interesting time right now.
I think, well, I think we're great people in a
great country. And right now, I think we've got the
right guy at the helm, and I think we'll figure
it out. But we should all check him just as
much as we check anybody else, and not fall in
love with any one human being, because the only person

(34:22):
we should love is up in heaven and yeah, here
among us.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
And on that point, he's cutting you know, they're cutting
usaid from ten thousand boys a T ninety six.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I mean that's a fucking cut, Holy shit.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Right, and again you all numbers have deserved.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
I mean, look at their history, you know. Now, Now,
should he throw out every Aulita because who's been in
this United States for eighteen years and she goes to
church every Sunday and she teaches Bible school and you know,
and and and should that person be man handled out
just because we want to make sure we control our border.

(35:01):
There's where we get into the.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, how do you make sense?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
So I'm glad you got into that. I'm gonna I'm
glad you got into that. So I'm gonna bring something
up when when New Gingrich was running for president, I
was his Hispanic communications director, and you know, and you know,
I brought up a bunch of stuff with newt you know,
on you know, Mexico City, bile see whatever, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
But on immigration, he had something that was very.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Interesting that he said. He said, look, we can't fucking
deport everybody. What we need to do is deport the
fucking criminals. And the people are fucked up. But he goes,
you know, we got to find a way. And he
had a great idea, Rick, that I think you're gonna
take communion with because we've had some conversations, some sidebark
conversations on this and you just brought it up. And
he goes, look, if there's somebody here that's been here

(35:47):
for years, they're a contribution to our community. They go
to church, they're on the school boards. They you know,
their their their neighbors love them, and they're friends with neighbors.
You know, they work, and they pay taxes. He goes,
why why would we want to uproot these people and
throw them out?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
He goes, you know, so we have to find a way.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Maybe it's some way to vouch where you can bring
in you know, your pastor your employer, you know, members
of your community that know you, that are willing a
voucher you and say this is a good standing member
of my community. Then you know what, we find a
way to put them in line, at least get them
some papers so they can work legally, and then you know,
we give them some penalty. You'll never become a US edition,

(36:26):
but maybe after ten years we'll give you a.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Green card or something like that, you know, and find
the way.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
It's two steps that we have to take to make
these correct. I think if I was in charge of this,
at least, not that I'd be able to come up
with the operational details to make it work, but I
think I would be able to figure out that at
least the mission should be two full. Hey, as far
as the people who are here, exactly what you and
Gingrich alluded to make sure, you can find a screening

(36:55):
process that allows the people who've been contributing and who
are really who love this country, have contributed to this country,
have fought in our wars, Our pastors in our church
are going to church, have risen, have taken care of
their children, their children, have become good citizens of good standing.
They don't have a criminal record, and yet, for some reason,
because the stupid legal process we have for immigration. They've

(37:17):
been in this country for thirteen years and they can't
get their papers signed by somebody, you know, because it's
just so stupid the way we do this thing.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
But at the same time, we got to close the border.
We got to close the border. We got to close
the border. We got to close the border, and we
got to stop letting people come in.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Now, I got a better suggestion, I got a better suggestion.
In the old days, this used to work, and somehow
we got away from it. And I don't know why
we got away from it. I agree with those who
say that we because our population is aged, and it
certainly has. The average white Anglo Saxon in the United
States is in his late forties or something like that.
The average African American is in their thirties, while the

(37:55):
average Latino in the United States is in his twenties.
So we are by far Latinos, people like you and I.
Hispanic Americans are by far the youngest.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Twenty zero average age group.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
In the United States. Right, So that's that's great, But
we don't so we need people to do some of
the work that many many Latinos do. And I'm not
going to say it's all far because there's just as
many nurses and doctors and lawyers who are Latino too.
But there is a certain amount of you know, starting work,
you know for people where they begin their careers, which
is you know a little more.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Manual manual labor.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, not exactly manual, manual and not necessarily you know,
blue skilled jobs or anything. So what used to work
in the old days was something called the but Isato program.
There are people, by the way, a lot of these
people they don't want to live in the United States,
but they do need to work. Bring them in, give
them a permission for two months, you know, put a

(38:54):
tag on them. If you have to do whatever you've got.
They're probably not going to stay. They want to go back.
The only reason they stay is because they have to
stay because if they leave, they can't come back in.
Let them leave and come back in. Give them a
work visa for two months, let them work and go home.
Give them one for four months, depending on what they
do and bus had the product of your moment, and
then they'll go back. All they want to do is

(39:14):
put money on the table for their family. They won't
bring their wife or the rawailita or anybody they're gonna
leave them in Honduras or in Guatemala or wherever they're
gonna come here, do the job, go home with ten
or twelve or fifteen thousand dollars, which in their country
is like forty fifty thousand dollars. And they're good. And
why don't we go back to that? I know?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
And I was talking to somebody like that exactly about that.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Because W forty three had that guess worker visa program.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Why aren't we fucking using that more? I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
So we're bringing allowing all these people to fucking cross
the border illegally, we don't know who the.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Fuck they are.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Why don't we bring them in? If we need ranch
hands and we need, you know, whatever it is, get
a work guess worker visa, you know, a seasonal, a
seasonal fucking visa, you know, and they dude, a lot
of these.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
People will come in.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
And I've heard stories bro about people that they already
know how to come in and out and they've been
doing it for years.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
And they when my.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Parents came to the United States, they didn't come from
Cuba because they hated Cuba and loved the United States
so much that they needed to chubtly change everything about
their lives and come to the United States. They came
to the United States out of necessity. Your family came
to the United States out of necessity. You know, Honduran's
Guatemalans and the story I told earlier about Guatemala. So
whate where the kills two hundred thosand people? Where the

(40:32):
Guatemalas go? They came here? Do they want to come here? No?
They love saying in Guatemala, Yeah, but they love the
place they're from.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
But there's a difference, right, is legal versus illegal immigration?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Right? And I think we need to correct that because
we can't.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Force them to be illegal because of our policy where
we make them sneak in though we wink because our workers,
pardon me, are our labor.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Our employers need them, so they get them into the country,
and then we have a system that doesn't allow them
to leave because if they leave, they're not going to
be able to come back in. So then they have
to stay here and send money to their family over there.
So we should change that whole anthemime around, turn it
on its head and say you can work here, but
you can't stay here, and we'll tell you for how

(41:19):
long you can stay. And if you stay over, stay
by one day, you're going to prison for the rest
of your life. Whatever the hell I'm exaggerating.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, yeah, but you've got to have some real penalties
and something in a real solution. And you know, everybody's
been talking about this immigration reform for a while, you know,
and and Trump offered to fix it last time, remember,
and and Pelosian Schumer said no, he said, fuck it,
let's put let's put total comprehensive immigration reform on the table,
give me the fucking wall, and let's do it. And

(41:47):
the Democrats didn't do it because they want to use
that as a pond right, and they use that as
a wedge issue, you know, with voters. But the reality
is this, if you look at every single poll right now,
the vast majority of Americans are against what happened in
the last four years where you had an obscene amount
of illegal immigration. And you know, and the problem is
that you have you know, MS thirteen, you have to.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Din that AOA.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
You have a lot of violent crime that has happened
and has been out of control. And look, I've talked
to CBP people and they told me at one point
in Sunny Celto you had between fifteen one hundred Russians
coming in every day. You know, the same thing with Chinese.
And you know down here in Miami, you know what
do we see the last two weeks vans of Chinese
illegals that were shipped over from Bahamas that came over

(42:29):
and dropped off, you know, down by pine Crush or whatever. Right,
So it's it's dude, it's fucked up, right, I mean, but.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
In the end we have to make I agree. But
here's what we can't do. We can't just say there's
a bunch of strange people in our country, let's get
them all out, because that doesn't work. What we have
to do and is have a cogent, intelligent, comprehensive, even
complex answer to what is a comprehensive and complex problem.

(43:00):
And we can do that. There's enough of us who
understand the complexities without thumping our chest from the right
ideological point or the left ideological point, both of which
I think to a certain extent are full of shit
on this sete.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, that's why I think Trump is gonna be able
to fix it. I mean, he's pretty pragmatic and He
said it openly. He's like, look, we're not gonna be
able to fucking deport thirty million people. Let's get rid
of all the criminal elements and then figure out a path, right, correct,
But you can't continue to, let you know, millions of
people bust oud order.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I mean, that's fucked up. Here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
You have about six hundred and eighty thousand people that
have either detainers or some kind.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Of criminal record.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
You're not gonna be able to deport ten million, if
that's the number that came through in the last four years.
But even to the port six hundred, let's say six
hundred thousand, right, six hundred and eighty thousand, I said, millions,
So sorry about that, but yeah, six hundred and eighty thousand.
You know, if we're capturing a thousand a day, isn't
it take fucking years exactly? So you know, you know,

(44:07):
everybody's got to, you know, figure out that this problem
needs to be resolved.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Some other way. You're not going to be able. How
are we going to do about anything? Right?

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, I told you the other day. I mean I'm
hearing it here, you know, in South Florida. You know,
I'm hearing my friends and people I know who are
coming to me and saying, oh my god. I tried
to you know, I have workers here at my ranch
who've been here for years, and they're and they're perfectly legal,
and they have you know, they're they're in the United States,

(44:36):
they're documented or whatever it's called. But from time to time,
when there's a project that needs to be done on
my ranch, and I'll say, you know, listen, can you
whatever you know I need to resad my you know,
a certain part of the of the ranch, or I
need a new stable made for some of the horses
or something. He goes, yeah, I can do that. And

(44:57):
I'll notice that when I go out in the yard
out on the ranch to see the work being done,
I'll notice that there are different people in the property
that I think he will get or recruit right. And
recently I asked him to do a project on like
some of the papers that we have out here, and
I said, listen, can you try and see if you
can get that done for a certain event my wife

(45:17):
wants taken care of. And he says, I can't get
anybody to come here and work. I said, what do
you mean you can't get anybody to come here at work.
He goes, No, none of the Latinos are leaving their
houses because they're all afraid they're going to be picked
up on the streets. They're literally cowering and hiding in
their homes.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Yeah, it's like, damn really, Yeah I heard I've heard
about that in construction sites as well.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, they can't get people to work. So you know,
there's there's kind of a yng and a yang, and.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
There's also some fear mongering Rick because Holman is not
doing that. He's not rounding up people walking down the
street or going into construction sites. They're going after people
that have warrants, that have detainers, that have you know,
a criminal record that they they know who they are.
And I've spoken to people at the FBI, you know,
the deals in this area, and they say, we know

(46:05):
exactly where they are, we know exactly who they are,
we are their names at a birth, we know everything.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
We were just prevented from making arrests, you know. So look,
you know that's going to keep them busy for a while.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
But yeah, like we said, this is not this is
not it's not something that's going to be done overnight.
It's not simple. There might be some there might be unfortunately,
some collateral damage, and there might be good people who
might be sent back who we wish would have stayed
because they are literally very good people. And you know them,
and I know them, and I think all Americans know them.
We've all met people that come to this country who
may not have the correct documents, but they have the

(46:38):
correct attitude and they have the correct love for America. Unfortunately,
some of those people may end up being, you know,
caught up in this thing. And that's just the way
it has to be done, you know.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I think it's what the governor of I can't remember
if it was Minnesota or one of these places that said,
you know, he's housing and protecting and illegal which people
suspect us is, you know, house cleaning people.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Or or or whatever we all we all have. Okay,
let's not be hypocritical.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Man.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
You've you've had people work for you and you probably
didn't even know we're in the country illegal. So are
you harboring? No? Man, I had to figure.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Out I had people that were that worked for Saban
working for us that we didn't know until later that
they're a part of Sabine. So, I mean, you know,
it's it's impossible, man, it's and by the.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Way, it's not it's it's not the job of the
average American to go around checking people's papers. You know,
when when when somebody comes to mow your lawn, you know,
Heaven forbid. And I know that may not sound right.
I'm just using that as an example. If somebody comes
to mow your lawn or paint your house, and you
recruit them and somebody brings them over, you're not going
to go out there and say, you know, I want

(47:46):
to see your papers, and I want to see who
your name and we we we don't do that in America.
That's a big estoppo also, so you know, it really is.
It's a complex issue. But like I said before, and
I think maybe this is where we could kind of
wrap up the conversation. What Trump is doing is necessary
because you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. There's
a certain amount of stuff that's going to be broken

(48:08):
in the process of making things right. Hopefully it will done.
It will be done in such a way so that
it's not severe and not too hurtful to too many people.
But sometimes these things happen.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
So you got three minutes, right, I know, we got
three minutes with you real quick. What's going to happen
in media now that they don't have government funding.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Well, there is one thing that they still have, and
unfortunately it exists in this country and we got at
some point get rid of it, and that is the
corruption in politics and the money that people literally are
allowed to buy politicians in the United States of America.
Willy nilly. You literally you want to own a guy,

(48:50):
You want to own a McConnell, You can own him
because McConnell went from being a poor dude making one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, he's now worth
thirty some minutes. You want to own Pelosi, you just
pay her money and she'll do the shit you want
her to do, so you give her the money. So
there's there's there's literally one point five billion dollars that
was spent during the presidential election last year by donors.

(49:12):
At one point five billion dollars came mostly not from
regular Americans, but from like less than one or two
percent of Americas. So what am I saying? Where does
that money go? It goes to CNN goes to Fox,
it goes to MSNBC, it goes to the media. So
do you think our media in this country is going
to go out tomorrow on a crusade to get rid

(49:34):
of corruption in politics. No, the media lives off of
the corruption in the politics. So CNN does not do stories.
Every once in a while, they'll bust a politician. Menendez
and Blagoyevitch. Those are the two I can think of. Right,
they got They got two guys who, as far as
I'm concerned, were no different than the rest of them.

(49:55):
Not that they're great guys or anything. I'm not saying
Menendez is a great guy. I'm just saying, when you
really look at it, he took he took one hundred
thousand and gold bars, and they bought them a Mercedes
that's one hundred and fifty and sixty thousand dollars. There
are out there people out there doing a lot worse.
So to fix the media, you have to fix the
thing that feeds the media. And there are many things

(50:16):
that fix feed the media, among them our corrupt political system.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Awesome, brother, Well, hey, I appreciate you, man. You're always
fun to have. And uh, we're going to continue our conversations.
I know you'll be like a brother man, A right man.
I appreciate it. Have a great weekend, man about it
all right? Take care, all right, guys. I hope you
uh had had a little fun with Rick today. And
I know there's gonna be a whole bunch of comments

(50:44):
on the throw them all out and you know, zero
tolerance on on illegal immigration. I agree, we got to
close the border. We can't let people come into this
country illegally. There's got to be a like Rick was saying,
you know, a formal and legal process to get these
folks into the country legally.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
You know, if it's.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Temporary worker visas or whatever it is, you know, have
them come in, have them go out, take you know whatever,
contribute to whatever it is. And then for people that
want to come in on a permanent level, you know,
there is a process for that. And you know, I
think if you come into the country and you break
the law and you came here illegally, then I think

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you wave that right, you wave that right for you know,
a permanent residency and citizenship. So you know it's gonna
be tough. The problem is that we have so many
people in here. You know, I just use an example.
If you do the math. I mean, I'll do the
math right now with you guys here. You know, it's
it's fucked up because if we grab let's say six

(51:45):
hundred and eighty thousand, right, that's how many criminals we have,
you know, and we're grabbing about one thousand a day,
that's six hundred and eighty. That's six hundred and eighty. No,
that's Jesus Christ. I can't even do my fucking math.
That's three hundred and sixty five. So that's like two years.
It would take us two years just to get rid

(52:06):
of the criminal element in this country. And what about
the millions that poured through during Biden. You know, some
people are saying, dude, it was eight. Some people were
saying it was twelve. Some people are saying it's fifteen.
You know, those are astronomical numbers. We got to find
a way to fix that problem. We got to find
a way to at least stop that problem. And I

(52:28):
think President Trump is the only guy that has, you know,
the character to do that. And we've seen how he's
forced Mexico to put ten thousand troops on the border.
He's moved troops down to the border. I don't think
anybody's gonna get through there now, but we got to
finish that wall.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
We got to do something. I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Anyways, I hope you guys enjoyed going rogue this week.
We're gonna have a very awesome week coming up with
some law enforcement people talking about some of these threats
with possible terrorists inside the country. We're gonna talk to
a lobbyist who is actually on the cannabis issue on

(53:07):
trying to get marijuana legalized. I want to hear his
thoughts and why he thinks that should happen and why
it shouldn't happen. I think it's Uh, it's legal in
a lot of places right now for medicinal purposes. I
don't I don't know if I I agree on on
having it be a recreational drug or something legal like alcohol.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
But you know, there's a lot of data out there
on both both sides.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Uh, And I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge him on that
because we know that there's enough data out there on
marijuana that that destroys your brain. It makes you slow,
it makes you lethargic, you know, and and has many
many other problems. So let's see what he says. You know,
he's the h the pot lobbyist, So hopefully he'll have
a come prepare with a lot of data and take

(53:52):
some tough questions. But you know, we're also going to
bring in a doctor who is very much anti vaccine,
has written a bunch of books and is very well known,
and we're gonna have her on the show to explain us,
explain to us why she's so anti vaccines.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
You know, I think everybody.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Is at least anti COVID vaccine because we all know
this is full of shit and it didn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
But I don't know what about the rest of them.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
I think there is a lot of questioning about ship
like Gardasil, you know, for HPV, why would you need
to get a child an HPV vaccination? You know, you know,
there's some bizarre shit out there, and and we're gonna
enjoy having a conversation with her, And then we're bringing
in some specialists, you know, to talk about the deep state,
and obviously we're gonna be following what's going on with

(54:45):
all these things. Cash Bettell's supposed to be you know,
confirmed next week. We know he's got a very very
heart agenda starting day one, and we're gonna follow what
Pam Bondi's doing because you know, we think she's she's
a rocks Or and it'll be very very fun to
see the changes she's doing.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
She's already making a bunch. So anyways, you.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Can watch us on Rumble if you are watching us now,
or you can follow us on any podcast platform that
you like.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
We're on screech or we're.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
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we're on Audible, we're on Amazon Music, pide.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Mean, you name it, all of them.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Any podcast platform you want, you're gonna find us there.
You know, download us, listen to us, share us with
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see it. And we'll see it next week. Guys, have
a great weekend. Cheers