S2E6: FEMA, USAID, RINOs, Elections 2026

We are joined by DC insider, "The Professor", Jim Dornan to discuss a multitude of things. From Gulf of America, Cabinets picks, Legislative agenda, waste at USAID and FEMA, and of course, the 2026 Elections and what will the RINOs do!
We also discuss dems, their bench and their continued double and triple down on their radical agendas. You dont want to miss it!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to igh Going Rogue.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Today's Tuesday, February eleventh, and uh, for those of you
that are still recovering from the Super.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Bowl, I feel your pain. I do.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I actually wanted Philly to win, so I was very
happy with that result and it was a great game.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
By the way. Going back to politics, so that's what
we do.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
We have finally been able to get on my good
friend Jim dorn in schedule, the man, the myth, the legend,
the ultimate political insider. And there he is Jim joining Hey, Jim,
thanks for joining us, pallets about time.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
How was that Super Bowl game? Were you rooting for anybody?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Kind of sort, I guess I was rooting for my
daughter's favorite team, the the Eagles. She's a Philly girl,
but I'm a Cowboys fan so much it didn't much
matter either way to me. Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Hey,
so I'll be rooting for a long time for a
Cowboys Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
What we haven't been able to talk since since, you know,
since the election happened, the inaugural. I mean there's been
so many theatrics and so much I would say, good stuff,
and so much distractions. But that's typical right, very true.
It's so typical, you know, mister producer, won't you put
that first slide up? And I'll start with a distraction

(01:47):
just to make us laugh for a little bit, you know, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
For fucking real, I get that out of there. Holy shit.
I mean, I don't know, dude.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, there's some people that are very culty and
whatever Trump does, they'll applaud and dance and you know,
almost like it's almost like the Obama crowd. Remember, they
would just applaud anything that Obama would do.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
It was crazy. We have a lot of people on
our side that are like that with Trump. And what's
the fucking purpose of renaming it the Gulf of America?
I mean, is there a rate de greason?

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, what difference does it fucking make?

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Well, he's playing to his base, obviously, but I agree
with you, and all it does is wound up ticking
off and pissing off our neighbors. You know, it's it's
foolish to me. It's unneeded drama internationally and unnecessary well,
and we need we need Mexico to do things for us.
We want him to help us cut down on the border,

(02:48):
which we need badly help with. We need the Cartels
to go away, which we badly need help with. And
I mean, what is Trump going to do if they
come over? And if the Cartels come over and and
you know, hurt us or bomb us in some way,
We're going to go in and drop a bomb on
a foreign country. I mean, we just got I mean,
you got to be diplomatic. It's part of the deal

(03:09):
of being president of the United States. And you know,
play to your base as much as you want, but
I mean we're going to need them at some point
and they're going to say, you know, what the hell
with you?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
And you know what, it's interesting that you bring that
up because you know, he designated the cartels as terrorist organizations,
which you know, according to US policy or law, maybe
it's policy, you know, gives us the authority to going
and fucking bomb the shit at them, right, even if
they're in a foreign country. So you know that that
is ah man, that that that's a shot over the

(03:41):
bow from Mexico.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, there are a lot of people that think,
you know, oh, we're gonna go in there.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, let's let's grave a whole bunch of rednecks and
drive over and we'll slaughter the cartels. Dude, these guys
are you know, all mercenaries. They hire merks. They're professional,
you know fighters and warriors that have been fighting consistently
for that gids around the world and all kinds of
tribal wars and real wars. And you know, it's not
going to be an easy takedown. They have the an

(04:09):
obscene amount of money, unlimited amount of money. They have
the best weapons. The only thing they don't have is
probably you know planes like we do in aircraft carriers.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
But you know, aside from from that, they have you know,
ground air missiles.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
They have everything right, So it wouldn't be a walk
in the park, and it would be very complicated because
you know, we're going to go into Mexico and go
slaughter these people.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I mean, I think if we have to, we probably will,
but I don't think that's something that anybody's hoping will
happen anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
But you're right, it's that whole Gulf of America thing.
I just don't understand.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
The man, it's it's needless and and I guess you
could argue that, hey, we're not going to help save
the Ukrainians from communism. But we're gonna go into Mexico.
I mean, give me a break. I mean, it's it's unneeded,
it's unneeded, unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
And what about Canada and Greenland?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I mean, you know, it's all it's all part of
his style of negotiation. But you know, it's a president
of the United States, Saints right.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
And I don't know if you know many Canadians I
happened to that fifty first state deal is a it's
a very sensitive subject, to say the least.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, dude, When I was at AT and T, we
had offices in Toronto, so I used to go up
there all the time. And and uh, first of all,
it's cold as shit the time of the time of year.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
And uh.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And I will never ever go to Canada and February
ever again in my life. They they tricked me once
and never again. It was cold as balls. And I
remember I got stuck in his bar, in his restaurant bar,
and the bartender had to give me a ride of
my hotel because dude.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
The snow piled up, no cabs were coming out. Nobody, dude.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
The bartender was actually doing like an uber for all
the tourists and everybody that got stranded.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
She was she had this big four by form.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
She was giving rides four at a time, you know,
dropping people off at hotels.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I was like, I'm never coming to this fucking hell
hole again.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
But you think about it also, is that Canada is
not a conservative place. The western provinces are, but that's
not where the population is, right, So all you would
be doing is adding a bunch of blue congressmen Canada
to the House of Representatives. And I mean it would
be defeat, exactly defeat the purpose Trump supposedly wants.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Right, It would it would.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I was about to say, why why do you think
we don't do that with Puerto Rico over the DC
because riding blues, you.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Know or not.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Puerto Rico would believe it or not, Puerto Rico would
not be that way. They they are more much more conservative.
People get a credit for DC, you're spot on, yeah,
but Puerto Rico would probably be half three and three.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's a split. Usually it goes back and forth, kind
of like the country.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know, so just look just look at their the ovens.
They've had everything mostly on our side.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Now on the other side, Yeah, moderate guys, But but yeah.
But but the Republicans nonetheless, you know, and I agree
with you. You know, look, he's had a lot of success.
You know, he's he's he's been successful in controlling the narrative.
Jim and me and you always talk about that he
who controls the narrative wins this thing. And uh man,

(07:23):
I mean there's that video and and and and Elon
Musk is the ultimate trol. I thought Trump was the
ultimate trol. Elon Musk is the ultimate trol. He changes
his fucking handle on Twitter on x that says Harry
Balls and and he has fucking CNN go on the
air and say Elon Musk who now goes by Harry
Balls here that it's it's just pure comedy. I mean,

(07:46):
they're just having fun with the media. But going back
to something that you mentioned, that you mentioned before we
got on on the area is the U.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
S C. I. D. Thing. It's still hot. It's things
still keep on coming out.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I had to see I guy on last week and
you know he pretty much said, yeah, dude, it's a
CIA outfit. That's what we found a lot of money
and do soft coups and do a lot of shit.
There is humanitarian work in there. But there's a lot
of corruption, right, There's a ton a ton of corruption.
Harry Balls is tweeting today all day, laughing that, you know,
I don't know how much money we were paying for
circumcisions in Africa at an outrageous price, like outrageous price,

(08:23):
He goes, dude, the price was so outrageous, I decided
to get in the game and offer a fifty percent discount.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
You know that. That was his tweet, and CNN went
on the air with that, you know, and I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Talk to us about your experience. You were talking to
me about that, and you know it's it's too many
hands right.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Well, back in my swampy days, I was a lobbyist
and I represented the I guess you could say I
represented a charity here in the States that was helping
out the Sierra Leone people to get get back on
their feet after the Blood Diamonds War. And so we

(09:02):
went to the Senate and we were able to get
a two million dollar grant to help build rebuild this
healthcare system in Sierra Leone. And a lot of people said, well,
why are we helping Africa? Well, we listen, We're we
are the world's leader. We need to be out there otherwise,

(09:22):
believe it or not, the Chinese are going to freaking
take over everything, and so we have got to be
active as as the leader of the free world in democracy.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, and the issue with Africa is everyone's like, fuck,
that place is fucking, you know, forsaken by God. But
you know what it's got the it's got a ton
of minerals in the Chinese really does.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
And you know what I mean, we you're supposed to
be friends to your friends, right, and so they were
having a tough time obviously. So we got we got
two million dollars appropriated to help rebuild it. And so
I brought the client into the USA I D toor
nail down. You know, how are we going to get
this money? How is it going to be distributed? Blah
blah blah blah blah. And it was a nightmare. I mean,

(10:04):
we had had the money approved that they made us
jump through hoop after hoop after hoop and bring on
consultants that were guess what, former usai D staffers. So
there's this kind of Beltway Bandit episode going on between
I mean they literally back, they go back and forth
between USAID and private sector and they give each other

(10:26):
business every step of the way. So after a year
we finally got a million, not two like we were
supposed to. And I mean it's been successful. I mean
the country's back on its feet slowly. It's rough. I
mean it's their rural country. But with the help of
the Catholic church over there, we were able to to

(10:46):
help out. But I mean going through the nightmare of
dealing with US I d it was exactly that. It
was a nightmare. And you saw that that's what I expected.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
And you saw the list of the all the money
has been thrown out and just random crazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Man, right, And and Rubio is right, I mean they
are they have their own agenda and has nothing to
do with whoever is in the White House.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
And it needed to be dismantled.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, exactly, torn apart and rebuilt.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah. Yeah, so that's crazy, man.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
And I'm happy to see that.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
And now we're seeing something with FEMA, right, David, do
you have that slide with FEMA, because that's been breaking
today like crazy as well.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
You know, why don't you play that?

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Also, learning that millions of your taxpayer dollars went to
house illegal migrants in New York City. DOGE leader Elon
Musk wrote, the Dose team just discovered that FEMA sent
fifty nine million dollars last week to luxury hotels in
New York City to house illegal migrants. Sending this money
violated the law and is in gross insubordination to the

(11:53):
President's executive order. That money is meant for American disaster
relief and instead is being spent on high end tell
us for illegals. A clawback demand will be made to
recoup those finds.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
All right, cool, So you know we we heard that.
We heard that a lot during the Biden administration. The
illegals are being shocked up in hotels.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
They were getting room service, they were getting a card
for like an EBD card for whatever expenses, and and
they were getting medicaid and do that. That's insane, it
really is.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
And frankly is you know the major reason that Biden
Law or the Harris lost because of those policies of
Biden administration. I mean that that way, you can actually
say that is FEMA carrying out the policies of the
Biden administration. Yeah, but as wrong as it is.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's also an incentive, right, it's an incentive for these
people to come over. They're like, dude, let's go over there.
They're giving us hotels.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Or you know. I mean these people are dirt poor,
living on the street or maybe homeless or in shacks,
you know, and if we can get over there, they're
gonna put us in, you know, at the Ritz or
at the Marquee, you know, with service and housekeeping and
you know, health insurance and cash. I mean, it's pretty ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I mean, you can I live, I can see the
Capital from my balcony and you can see homeless encampments
right underneath the New Jersey Street Bridge, New Jersey Avenue
Bridge rather and it's ridiculous that we have to deal
with that. And it's a result of Biden basically encouraging
illegals to come to this country. Now, I think Trump
has definitely got the right idea. I do get a

(13:24):
little concerned about what's going to go on with farm
workers because I will tell you, I know, folks that
own farms out west, and they are regular Americans are
not picking apples and and oranges, you know, from the fields.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, and also on the.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Cattle side, right you know, I've talked to a whole
bunch of them. But there is something there, Jim. And
you know, you remember there's during the.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Bush years forty three the guest worker visa program. You know,
why aren't these people using the guest worker visa program
to bring in migrant workers versus, you know, incentivizing illegal workers.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Well, in some cases they are. The guys I know
that are using the H one B program absolutely because
they know that. I mean, they've been rated by bys
and you know what, all the guys had papers and
they were all legit. But there are a lot of
guys out there that are not using because it's easy.

(14:23):
They get paid under the table, you know, et cetera,
et cetera. And I agree we ought to punish the
bad guys and reward the good guys.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, how do you feel about Homen Homan?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Homan has said that we have about six hundred and
eighty thousand criminal illegals. If we're capturing about a thousand
a day, that's over two years to get just the
criminal element out. So the ten million plus they came
in during the Biden administration, we're never gonna get out.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, not in four years, that's for sure. But I
mean I think Homan' is probably doing a pretty good job.
He's doing what Trump wants. He knows what he's talking about.
I feel comfortable listening to him and interviews. And I
agree we got to get rid of the criminals. I
don't know if we need to be shipping our criminals
down to l Salvador, but that's a whole different subject.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, hey, I'm kind of all for it, but
I wonder if there's some kind of constitutional uhsion, you
know that you can't just fucking, you know, export your
fucking people to another country, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I'm pretty sure that's gonna be challenged pretty pretty severely.
And the and the a c l U will be
first in line with the first complaints probably right, you know.
But but it is a fun it is a fun
fact of this administration of thinking outside.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Of the box. But look.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Before before Biden, you know, and and and this is
the laughable number that for decades we talked about the
eleven million illegals, the eleven million illegals, but for you know,
we know that numbers probably was probably around twenty.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
We know.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
More or less that somewhere between eight and twelve million
illegals have come in during the past administration.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
You have a very large number of people.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
That you know, everyone's like, throw them out out, throw
them out, great, But how how many buses would that take?
How many airplanes would that take? You know, it's and
you got to go catch them, you know. So I
heard something that they're asking Treasury to, you know, deputize
I N S officer, I mean I R S officers

(16:41):
and people like that to help. You know, Ice DeSantis
has said, you know, let's deputize you know, Floridians or
whatever down here. Does it become a witch hunt if
we start deputizing civilians that have concealed carry or previous

(17:04):
law enforcement and all of a sudden people start fucking
being lone rangers out there.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Well yeah, I mean I think there's definitely that possibility.
I mean, look at what happened in World War Two
with the Japanese. You know, we had internment camps for
God's sakes. Yeah, I mean I would hope we never
go back to that again. And most of those folks
who they were Americans, not enemies of this country. So yeah,
I think that the rhetoric has to be toned down

(17:33):
a little bit on this, and let's get on a
realistic way in which to deal with it. Get rid
of the bad guys, let the good guys stay. If
there's a way to get them here legally or to
keep them here legally.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Great.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
They're not taking jobs from Americans, I don't care what
anybody says. They're not. And you know what, frankly they
a fair amount.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Ok, here's the reality. And you know, I'm always very
clear about this, and I get shipped from doing this
all all the fucking time, but I say it like
it is, bro. And you know this.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know the people that are fucking trekking a thousand
kilometers barefoot, you know, across you know, dirt roads, jumping
on fucking on on on the beasts. Yeah, the fucking
train on top of the trains and all that shit
to get to the fucking border and crossing through a desert.
Those people are not taking anybody's fucking job. Those people
barely know how to speak their own language. They do

(18:26):
not know how to read write. They're the most unqualified
labor that this country can possibly receive. You know, So
you know, not to be a Dick, But we want
to import people that have qualifications, that are skilled, that
you know, can can contribute to society other than just
pick you know, vegetables and clean and you know, take

(18:49):
care of cattle. And I think for those jobs, there's
that guessworker visa program and the employers should be penalized,
should be fined, and even should face jail time for
hiring illegals. That that's that's one way to stop that,
because that type of labor is not going to go
get a job at IBM. They're not going to go
get a job at Tesla. Right, So all of a

(19:12):
sudden that that's gonna limit a lot of the things.
But that that's a reality, right, And.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
I agree with you. But the MAGA folks are are
saying we don't want the smart engineers coming into this
country either, which is completely addine.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean, well, Trump said that. Trump said that.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I remember you said, why are we educating these guys
in our country and then setting them back to Pakistan
in India?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Why don't we keep them here at least intuition for one? Yeah, right, but.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Two, they're smart people. I mean Musk wants them.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Want Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
That also said the same thing, and they they did.
They went after both of them on Twitter like crazy, right.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I know, I remember.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
And frankly, you know what, I think it speaks volumes
about our education system that these folks want to come over,
graduate with an American degree and get hired by somebody
who wants them in this country.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, it's it's a focus on STEM programs, right, there's
a lot more focus in STEM, you know, science, technology, engineering, math,
you know, in in in in India and other places
than here in the US, where, unfortunately, there was a
lot of focus on the liberal arts, right and and
and you know, and then all of a sudden, people
graduate with hundreds of thousand dollars of debt, you know,

(20:26):
and and can't get a job, and you know, then
they're fucking out there marching and protesting.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
With AOC you know.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
But I don't know, man, it's it's it's uh, it's
I think Trump is very determined. He's got a very
good agenda on what he wants to accomplish. I don't
think he's gonna be able to do it in four years.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
And what happens then, you know, because here's a question.
You know, you're very.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You're a DC insider, you have been for a long
long time. Nobody knows. I mean, you know Die Bars,
you know alleyways that people haven't even heard of. Brother,
you know, And what is the establishment saying? They've been
awfully quiet except for you know, our friend Mitch McConnell.
You know, we'll get into him in a minute. But

(21:14):
what's going on with the establishment?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, there's a lot of a lot of anger and
not a lot of understanding about where the electorate is
right now. I like to use this statistic. In twenty sixteen,
Trump was able to win two hundred and thirty one
counties in this country electorally that had voted for Obama twice.

(21:39):
So what does that tell you? They're going from Obama
to Trump. So it's not an ideological thing. What it
is is a loss of respect and of confidence in
our institutions. So people were voting for the two guys
they thought would mess up the system and you know,
hit the establish where it hurts, et cetera, et cetera.

(22:02):
The establishment, finally, I mean, after twelve years, is finally
beginning to learn that people are angry and they hate Trump,
but they can't do anything to get rid of Trump,
and as long as they still offer up people like
Hillary or Jeb Bush, God bless him. I love him,
but he's he's the establishment. Until and in fact, the

(22:27):
Democrats did it. Even going from Biden to Harris, it
was still establishment. I mean black woman, yes, but she
was part of an old guard, that is that has
been here for decades, and so until this, until the establishment.
If you will understands that, then we're going to continue
to have people who are willing to take on the system.

(22:47):
And frankly, I think that's healthy for democracy. I mean,
do I disagree with stuff Trump does? Yeah, of course
we all.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do, but we disagree with you know. I mean what
O Reagan say, if you agree with some many seventy
five percent of the time, they're not your enemy, right.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
So right exactly, they're your friends. I'd rather have somebody
seventy five percent than zero percent.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
So there needs to be an understanding of what has
failed and why it has failed, and what we can
do about it, because I mean, right now, both members
of both parties and the legislature and Congress they are
they seem to be looking just what can save me
to get another re election, you know, and as long

(23:28):
as that is the frame of mind of those people
in power, then then nothing's going to change. And that's
the one thing Trump is doing. He's saying, we're going
to do it my way. Does he overreach, no question.
I mean, I'm not sure I want that strong an
executive because I don't want to go to a dictatorship.
But the Congress is not standing up for themselves, and

(23:49):
they're saying, well, they're lying down and saying, okay, whatever
you say. And they they they're doing it for Trump
and the Democrats did it for for Biden. And so
we that's got to change. And I don't know how
soon or when, but I mean until they realize that.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
We talked about this a lot in fifteen and sixteen,
you know, the the rise of Trump and the reason
right behind it, Like you were talking about. The professor,
by the way, is one of the most sound people
and can take us historically through everything in politics for
a long long time. And we love his dissertations and
having him on the show, and we talked about this

(24:28):
right that, you know, the American people felt betrayed by
the political class. Right, they felt betrayed by the political class.
Everybody running on promises, never delivering, but only getting stronger,
accumulating wealth and accumulating power for themselves, you know, and
and the American people, the electorate, the voter was completely ignored.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Think about that.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
We're gonna go to a commercial break, and once we
come back, we're gonna listen to the professor walk us
through exactly what's going on in politics.

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Speaker 1 (26:10):
Let's go to the professor there you go.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, yes, sir, what do you got? Bring it on?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, you know, like I was asking you, you know
what what uh? What's it happened? You know what happens?
You know?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I mean Trump is here for four years? You know,
we we know the rise of Trump was because the
people were totally pissed off at the political class.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
The political class has done nothing to change, Jim.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
And that's why you've got Trump back, you know, because
they had we had some good candidates and desandas and others,
you know, but the base just said, fuck you, I'm
not giving you guys another chance.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
And how does that change?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Is a political class willing to change, That's that's what
as as the electorate has clearly sent a message saying
we don't trust you, we don't believe you.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So well.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Answer one is they're going to have to answer to
is So. I found Trump's answer to the question about JD.
Vance in the Super Bowl interview very interesting. He basically said, no,
he's not the air apparent because I think he wants
Trump Junior to be the air apparent because Vance is

(27:22):
only there because of Trump Junior. Correct, and they have
a very strong friendship. What I what I have predicted
in the last week or so is that Vance gets
the vite gets the presidential nomination, and Don Junior gets
the vice presidential nomination. So the problem is neither one
of them are Trumps Senior. And that's He's got the charisma,

(27:45):
He's got the appeal much more so than the other two.
The question is, can the establishment come up with somebody
who can make their case reasonably with that amount of charisma.
I'm not seeing anybody right now. I mean, the people
that are mentioning are all good politicians and good establishment

(28:06):
people Brian Camp you know, etc.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Etc.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Down the line, but I'm not I think it's going
to be a horse race. Frankly, in the Republican Party,
the Democrats are going through what I think is even
worse than the post Trump period, where they can't decide
whether they're going to stay exceedingly far left, and with

(28:31):
things like transgender and prisoners getting transcender operations.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
They've doubled down. What's that they've doubled and tripled down
on that I know they have.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
And I don't know if a lot of people know this.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I know you do.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
But that interview with Harris, it was obviously done in
the primary where she said I support, you know, taxpayer
funded of transgender operations for prisoners. That commercial was run
after every single NFL this past season, and those voters
are not supporting that whatsoever. And so I mean they

(29:08):
the far left cost him that election. And if they don't,
some of them are starting to speak in the right
way about it. This guy Fez, who's used to be
Bernie's guy and who I've been on a number of
panels with TV panels within the past, he's the only
guy who's saying stop the identifying the identity politics, for

(29:29):
God's sakes, And unless you get a bunch of other
people on the other side saying that they're going to
continue to lose and lose big, so it'll be interesting
to see.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I agree with you by the way that it is
by far the best thing that can happen is if
they stay away the hell out there in the end zones,
because no matter who we run, we should probably win.
But do we stick with the MAGA brand moving forward?
Does a Republican party reform and find.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know his legs? Or or here here's a here's
a wild card? You know are both parties? Dad? And
is really just now about personalities?

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, that's a that's an extremely good question, and the
answer may be yes to that. I don't see anybody
on either side right now. It's got Trump's charisma or personality.
I mean, somebody will rise to the top, know what
they normally do. Will it be enough?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
I mean I don't I don't say vance with that
kind of appeal, frankly, And so I think it'll it'll
be a full out establishment versus Maga war on the
right side. And I think you'll see the same thing
on the left side, with the hardcore gen zs going
over the edge on the transition, transgender and and other

(30:47):
issues climate except Israel versus Pales sign And.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I don't know who can cover that gap on that
side either. Frankly, I mean there are a couple of
they have. The Democrats have a fairly good bench. The
problem is they're not using it.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
What do you think about Gavin Newsom?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
I think his days are long past. He's yeah, I mean,
he's very well spoken. Crap, he's he's in charge of California.
California is a disaster. Frankly, in San Francisco and l
A good God, you couldn't pay me to live out there.

(31:30):
I think I think the Democrats best bet are people
like Gretchen Whitmer up in Michigan. She's well spoken, she's smart,
she's not a nut job. On the left, and and
they've got a couple other governors and I think that's
where we got to go on the right, is we
need to go to a governor who's got executive experience
and stay out of the freaking House and Senate.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
And I would love to see and we talked about this,
you know, either Governor Ynkin.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Or or or or or Abbot in Texas.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
I think I think Youngkin. I don't know how old
Abbot is, but Youngkin would be phenomenal. I mean his
name is all and he and he's handled Virginia incredibly
well so former Carlisle guy.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I mean, you know, he's he's he's solid, all around.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Completely well liked, a good fundraiser. I mean, he's he's
and he's not a whack job. I mean he's a
very reasonable human being. And frankly, he's they're running again
on bringing down those car taxes in Virginia.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
So, I mean, that's those are the right issues. Those
are people every day, you know, get up in the morning.
I got to deal with this car tax you know,
issues that people want to get rid of, not transgender schools.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
For God's sakes, dude, how did they go that crazy? Man?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
I don't, I don't know. I mean, I I thought
I was watching closely, and apparently I wasn't. They just
I mean, they went from zero to sixty over there,
and I mean it's I mean, I mean there are
a lot of reasons. I mean, Biden would way too
long to get out, Harris did not have any time
to take up any normal positions or get back to

(33:12):
the center at all. I mean, there are a ton
of things they did wrong on that side. And frankly,
they're not doing anything to fix it.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
And you know it's bizarre because you look at where
you know, when they're looking, they're they're they're voting to
pick their new DNC chair.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
You know, raise your hand if you think Kamala Harris
lost because of misogyny and racism and everybody, and you're like, dude,
that you just got the ass kicking of a lifetime
and you're tripling down on this crap.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
She was a horrible candidate. She was fucking stupid and
probably drunk. And talk about drunk and stupid, the hypocrisy
on our side, because we have a ton of it, right,
we haven't on a hypocrisy. We talked about Joe Biden
being a walking zombie, didn't know where he was, who
he was, and we have McConnell. Why isn't anybody calling

(34:13):
for a fucking cocaine minche to go to a fucking
nursing home.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
I agree, I agree that's ypocrisy at least at least
we moved him out of leadership and so in Tune
Tune will be a very good leader. I think Corny
would have been a good leader too, or Braso so,
but yeah, You're right, You're exactly right. I mean, these
older guys, I mean, I hate to say it because
I love Chuck Grassley, but he's getting there too. Yeah,

(34:38):
you know, I mean we've got to be persistent or
consistent rather in our in our views on this. And
I mean Biden had no business being in the White House,
no business money.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
We talked last year, talked about that in twenty twenty,
that guy was hiding his basement. He was just you know,
you called it too, you said, dude, Biden's running the
perfect campaign. Is not not campaigning, is Lett is just
letting Trump be Trump and and and beat himself and
h you know, and that was the most disappointing fucking election,
I think, second to Romney, you know, because Romney should

(35:12):
have won that election. And you know, he just didn't answer,
didn't respond, He let the whole binders of women, you know,
draw this character of him and et cetera.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
What do you think is going to happen from now
to the midterms.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
I think Trump's gonna be able to if the Republican
infighting is pulled in a little bit. I don't know
Johnson's quite the guy to do it, but we have
to depend on him. He's the only guy to do it,
unless Trump decides to get day to day involved, which
I don't think would be a great idea for the
President to be dealing with legislation other than laying it
out saying this is what I want, go do it.

(35:50):
So the problem is, with those tiny, tiny margins in
both houses, it's going to be really hard. I mean,
you're already going through reconciliation, you know, Johnson and Lindsey
Graham or our button heads right now over process, not
even talking about what's in the bill. We're talking about process,
for God's sakes. So if they can get beyond this,

(36:14):
and you know, you've got guys like Mike Lawler on
one on the middle, who's got to hold his seat
and has to be reasonable and moderate to win that
New York seat. And then you got Chip Roy who
doesn't have to be reasonable and moderate out in Texas,
and they're gonna they're the ones who are going to
butt heads over what's going on with the salt tax
i e. The state and local taxes in the in

(36:36):
the Blue states, and and versus spending cuts. So I mean,
can we come to I mean, everyone thought, oh God,
we got the triple threat now or whatever they call it,
the the sweep, And no, it's not going to be
that easy because there are there are disparate ideal ideologies
in each house and each each house, the House and

(37:00):
the Senate rather within our party, and so I know
reconciliation is set up to avoid that, but with a
one or two votes, I'm not sure if they're gonna
be able to do it. They've got to, they've got
to compromise among themselves, even before they start compromising with
the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
How does our bench look?

Speaker 4 (37:21):
God, that's a great question because it's something I've been
thinking about a lot over the.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Last Yeah, and you're involved in a lot of races
all the time, right for House and Senate.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
What does our bench look like? Man?

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Honestly, honestly, do we have the up and coming Marco
Rubios somewhere out there?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
The JD. Vans is maybe because J. E. Vance.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know, if you look at them, he's smart, articulate,
you know, maybe not as charismatic, but you know, like.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Drum but you sharp. No, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
I I haven't seen anybody rise to the surface yet.
And on the geop side, that's going to be tough
with Trump at the top of the surface. But there
are gonna be guys who who find that what I
call a happy medium between supporting Trump and looking not
looking too much like Trump, Because I mean, we were

(38:13):
going off the air, we were going through the numbers
on on Trump's numbers with women, and there's no way
women if we don't do something with women, that we're
ever gonna win again.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
So if you look at that pole, I mean, that's
crazy overall. You know, he's got a fifty three approval
and a fort disapproval, so it's it's tight, man, It's
not this massive, you know, approval.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Exactly and one false move and I mean, yep, that
could be beyond anyone's control of a foreign policy snafoo
or a war that we didn't want to get involved
with or anything. The tariffs completely backfire and inflation goes
through the roof. I mean, all of that stuff goes
out there, All that stuff has effect, and then the

(39:02):
status quo goes out the window as far as who
can win and who can lose.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
And look at the numbers there on the gender right,
so sixty percent of men approved versus forty percent, but
You go to the women and forty seven percent approved
and fifty three percent disapproved. So that's really tight. But
he wins on every other demographic. You look at the
under thirty, he's at fifty five. You look at thirty
or forty four, he's a fifty two. You look at

(39:27):
forty five to sixty four, he's a fifty six sixty
five plus, that is fifty to fifty. That's interesting number
right there.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, well, that's because the Democrats have been very effective
in calling this the Project twenty twenty. Stuff is eliminating
Medicare and Social Security because that's what that's in response
to right now. And hopefully that goes away very quickly
as soon as this reconciliation process comes suits at the
bitter end and we get the tax cuts back, we

(39:57):
get some border control, and we get the main things
that Trump ran on and uh and so those that
you know, that will hopefully solve itself. But you know,
again it's wait and see.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
You don't know how much time do we have? Jim,
I know, I know you're limited time. Have you got time?
I got some more questions?

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Go ahead, Okay, cool, So we don't know about our bench.
What about the Democrats bench, you said that you thought
they had a deep bench.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
I think there are are people that are in the
center of their ideal ideology that would would appeal to
the American voter. Again, rerection Whitmer. I think Amy Klobash
are to a certain extent. But if they continue this
this launch or this lurch to the far left, then

(40:48):
forget about it. It's not going to happen. So that's
why we need to be watching incredibly closely and making
sure we don't do the same thing and going off
the you know, over the top, over ski tips, if
you will. On ideology. I mean, this country is a
moderately conservative country where we're probably around fifty five or

(41:08):
sixty percent conservative, and that's not a huge majority, but
it's enough to win and we need to govern like that,
all right.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
So with that said, how do you explain Tulsi, how
do you explain RFK? How do you explain others like that?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
That's strictly Trumps Joe Rogan. I mean, it's all personality
with Trump. It's like who Trump likes. I mean I
was in that office for three months and I saw
him up close and personal. I know how he reacts
to people and and how his when it comes, it's loyalty, frankly,
and those guys have professed forever loyalty to him, and

(41:44):
that's what he wants.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
But these are former Democrats that have moved away from
the Democrat Party.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Well, Tulsi was never a hardcore d She was always
kind of I mean, Hillary was making fun of her
during during that campaign and then Okay, I don't know
if anybody's ever gonna be able to figure that out.
But but no, I think I think ideology to a
certain extent doesn't play a role with Trump when it

(42:11):
comes to people close to him.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Boom, You're exactly right, because that's what I That's what
I keep on telling everybody. You know, everybody says, you know,
he's a conservative, and the conservative movements alive.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Trump is not a conservative. Trump. Trump is a pragmatic
business guy. That's exactly what he is.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
And he's gonna go and pick pragmatic issues that make
sense and he's gonna use common sense.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Right, He's not. He's not an ideologue, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So all these hard right ideologues that are you know,
anti gay marriage and anti and they're gay bashing and
anti abortion and all that. And look, I get that,
I get you know, the pro life movement and all that,
but it should not be front and center in the elections.
You know, those type of wedge issues always end up
getting in trouble. I mean, I saw a poll. I

(42:59):
saw a poll in the last election that said that
a lot of the women that voted for Kamala was
because of reproduction reasons or rights as they call it.
They didn't care about anything else, which is amazing right,
it is it is.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
And it's true too. And they misused it as an
issue during the campaign, to be honest with you, I mean, hell,
they had a statewide referendum in Kansas, one of the
most conservative countries the states in the country, and the
pro abortion side won.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Why you know why? Because they presented it to the
farmers as a libertarian issue. Do you want the government
making these kinds of decisions for you? Nothing about unborn,
nothing about abortion, none of that. It was a liberty issue.
Do you want the government making these decisions for you?
And the farmers are like, hell no, And they supported

(43:53):
the abortion side.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
And I know you're a pro lifer, you know, down
to the core, and with amazing beautiful story behind that too,
you know, which is just it just validates why pro life,
you know, if you want to talk about it, feel free.
But you know, I still think that, you know, on
our side, we should not be leading the charge with

(44:16):
that like the left leads on abortional abortional bard.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
I agree completely, and we're you know, we're a friend
of my daughter. We made the right decision on putting
her up for adoption when there was somebody out there
who could take better care of her than I could
when I was in college. And the fact that she
and I are close now and have found each other,
and you know what, I made the right decision and
I will talk about that until the day I die.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
And you have beautiful granddaughters too, right, thank you?

Speaker 4 (44:47):
And one grandson, one grand new grandson. Wow.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Congratulations, that's amazing. That is amazing. That is amazing. Yeah, man,
you know, it's you know, it's issues like that. But
here's the other question, right, is why do we take
these hard stands on.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Especially like gays, you know, and then we have members
of Congress tapping bathroom floors at O'Hare looking for blowjobs, right,
or these other guys molesting underage pages in Congress where
they have to fucking get rid of pages. You know,

(45:29):
is you take these hard lines of anti gays and
then you end up being in the closet these guys
that go to church, you know, every day and take
confession once a week, and you know, and are pounding
their chests and then you know they're off.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Doing some other stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Right, you know, realistically, what people do in their life
is their fucking private business.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Who gives a shit, right, if you know? I remember
growing up.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
You know, I said this numerous times. Is you know,
we used to kid around and be like, fuck it, dude.
You know, there's more gays. I mean, you know, more
chicks for us.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
You don't get the fuck you don't let them all
be fucking gay? You know. But but what how did that?

Speaker 3 (46:10):
How did that.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Start in the party? When did that? It wasn't Reagan?

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Right, well, actually, I mean that's Reagan was the first
guy voted for president. That's the first time I noticed
the pro life issue being so prevalent in a party orthodoxy.
I mean it was probably there before, but you know,
I mean Reagan was the first true conservative to run

(46:36):
on our side, you know, for a really long, long
time back when, and social issues came into the being
with you know, with Ralph Reid and Christian Coalition and
those folks and you know what's his name from Lynchburg,
Jerry F.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Folwell.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
I mean, they became part of the Republican coalition and
so that's why it took such a big role.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Camp and you had a newt with you know, contract
with America and all that stuff they kept on falling through.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
But look, I don't agree with all this LGBTQ plus
whatever it is, and you know, the d I stuff,
and I think that's all fucked up.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
You know, it's fucked up. But dude, let people do
whatever the fuck they want, right, But yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Shouldn't give them special fucking uh treatment, right or special status,
you know. And I think that's where where where it
all sorted to go crazy. And the big criticism Jim,
from the base to the establishment Republicans has been that
the establishment never stood up against that, never fought, and

(47:46):
they just bowed their head and went along with it,
especially with the whole cancel culture that happened the last
four years. Why is it because deeply down inside they
take communion with that bullshit. They say that again, is
it because deep down inside they take communion with that,
they believe in that, they agree with that.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I think that.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
The traditional conservatives beliefs and beliefs are in less government,
lower taxes, et cetera, et cetera, and that social issues
are secondary. Reagan recognized it differently, as did his staff obviously,
but I think that I think we're in some senses

(48:32):
almost going back to that that traditional conservatism, because I mean,
Trump's doing a lot of that stuff, lower taxes and whatnot.
And again, if the Democrats don't get it, then I
think they're going to wind up paying the price of
the polland places.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yet again, no, I agree. But the the the the argument,
and I hate to use the word hate, but the anger,
how about that anger? The anger from the towards the
establishment of Republicans is that why don't they stand up?
Why didn't they stand up to Biden? Why did they
allow this cancel culture to happen? Why did they allow

(49:11):
people to be you know, doxed and canceled, ridiculed, destroyed financially,
you know all of that, and nobody stood up and
nobody said anything. It was only Trump And the only
reason that's dead is because Trump won, Because if Trump
would have lost it, they would have tripled down, and
right now, you know we'd probably freaking, you know, in

(49:31):
home arrest.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
You know well, and you just answered your own question.
Is because we didn't win. We were losing, and we
didn't have anybody who was who was leading the way
at the time, and now Trump is on those very issues.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Well, okay, so Trump's got four years and he's old.
What happens next?

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, somebody else is going to have to step up.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
And there's nobody here. I mean, you really think don Junior, No,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I don't you know gonna be You think it's going
to be all out open abboit Ynkin, diant Is, Vans, everybody.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
I think de sands is his ship has sailed, unfortunately
for him. I just don't think he can make a
legitimate comeback. I think you're gonna see some new folks
or semi new folks, which is what I would call Yngkin.
He's semi news. He's playing his cards right, Yeah, I
mean he's waiting, he's in wait and see mode. And
I think there are some other folks out there doing
exactly the same thing. He's gonna probably run right off

(50:31):
the top of my head. There's gonna be others like that.
Rick Scott, Uh, his ship may have sailed as well. Yeah,
he lost his senatorial leadership right, yep, what even close?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah? Yeah, but that was That was McConnell too though.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Well, yeah, that's what you don't mess with, Mitch.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah, I know somebody's even an old Mitch. Send them
to a nursing home. Man. So we got two years.
We've seen a cabinet that clearly.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Tells you that Trump is on a mission. He is
not the same Trump of twenty seventeen. No, I mean,
this guy is sound, He gets it.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
He knows where the bodies are, he knows who the
good guys are, who the bad guys are, and he
knows what needs to be done. His cabinet clearly reflects
on it. Who do you like? Who do you not like?
Who are you're concerned about?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Good question.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
I like the Rubio pick I think it's a natural
for him. The other guys I don't know much about him. Worried.
I'm worried about cash Bettel, I'm worried about hag Seth.
I'm worried about Tulsea. I'm worried about RFK Junior. I
think Linda McMahon is probably a great choice for education.

(51:50):
Pam BONDI I think is a great pick as well. Yes,
who else is out there? I mean, I don't know
anything about the commerce guy or I mean Bergham is
probably good for interre here.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I think the rest are pretty pretty safe and pretty stable.
I think I think the ones you mentioned are the
ones where.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
There is.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
You know, but the verdict is out right right there.
I think a lot of people are excited about cash.
The ones that want to see cash go in there
and and just crush the FBI and get rid of
or identify if there really was any wrongdoing it. If
there wasn't, then say so right.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yeah, I worry about long term effects. I mean, I
think that we need to be real careful right now
as far as as far as terrorism is concerned. I mean,
Isis and the Taliban ain't going away, you know, one
of them is now in charge of Syria as bad
as a sod was. We've got somebody in there worse.
I mean, my Middle Eastern contacts, so like Turkey is

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not helping us out over there at all. Syria is
even worse than it was before, and we need to
be really careful about I mean, the Iranians completely aside.
There are other folks we need to be worried about,
need to pay attention to, and we don't want to
we don't want to toss aside those that can keep
their eye on that or who know who know how

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to keep our eye on that.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
You just for this, that's a great point.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Yeah, he's a great pick.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, I agree, that's solid, solid, right.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yep, yep. He's a smart guy. I think Waltz will
be a smart guy too, you know. I mean, there's
some good guys in there.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
So going back to RFK, I don't want to say
he's a koup or an anti vatch er, you know.
I think he's got a lot of good positions, especially
on the food, right. I think health is very important

(53:53):
and he brings it up a lot, and and and
has demonstrated why. And and we look at examples on
food and stuff that's.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Allowed here and not allowed in the rest of the
world because it's hamming it and bad.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I don't know, man, I guess you know, let's see
what happens with him.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Yeah, the vaccine stuff is concerning. I mean, what Trump
did at the end of his term with COVID, I
think is proof the vaccines work. And so and you
know there's nobody I'm an old don I'm as listener,
and you know he was. He had a bunch of
people on that show about with the autism and the immunizations,

(54:32):
it's never been proven. And it's it's I mean, I
get that these people are concerned and worried about their kids.
That I understand that, but let's not making making blanket
conclusions based on one or two or three cases.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Well, you know what, it's interesting bring that up because
I'm gonna have a doctor Susanne Humphreys on my show.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I think it's later this week or next week.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
She's a world renowned the prologist, and you know, she's questioned,
you know, the validity of vaccines and you know, has
done a lot of studies on them, and and and
goes back, you know, listen to our audiobook, which is fantastic,
and he goes, well, you know, is it really the
vaccine or is it the conditions have changed?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
And goes and talks about you know, early nineteen hundreds,
you know, they're sewage in the streets, yep, you know,
and it flowed into the rivers where everybody drank their
water from, right, and you know, so there's a lot
of components and and look, I think there's going to
be some truth, like in everything we always talk about,

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there's multiple sizes in the truth of somewhere in the middle.
And yeah, one I think, you know, Big Pharma plays
a huge role in in pushing and making dollars because
that's what their responsibility is is, you know, profitability to
their shareholders. But you know, let's see, let's see what
RK does. Tulsie, I don't know, man, A lot of

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people like her. I'm I was never a fan of dos.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I was never a fan of th Olcie when she
was a Democrat. I haven't been a fan of hers,
you know. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
I mean the snowed and stuff is what gets me
with her. I mean, he's a trader, and she needs
to call him a trader. I mean, who knews what
kind of damage. We may never know what kind of
damage he did, but I mean he needs to be
in jail and stay there forever. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Look, you know, if we wouldn't know a lot of
stuff if it wasn't for him. But he should have
done it another way. You're not going to Russia, you know,
so right, that's kind of a problem, you know, you know,
But I don't know, bro, I don't know. I'm really
excited about Marco. I hope that the administration can can

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can take off from where it was trying to leave
in twenty twenty, which is to try and get American
companies out of China and bring them over to the
Western hemisphere where we have free trade agreements. You know,
that wouldn't make the America's a really strong trading block
and and and in a safe trading block and a
lot less illegal immigration, for sure.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
You know, reed, But you know, I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
You know, I'm an optimist, brother, But four years, as
we know, is sometimes an eternity when it comes to
an election cycle, but it's short when it comes to
an administration.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Isn't that weird?

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Very true? Very true? It be It'll be interesting to.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Watch, all right, brother, I'm gonna let you go.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
What's your predictions for the next I don't know, rest
of the year, six months, I guess the rest of
the years impossible with Trump.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
But how about how about the next ninety days? What
do you see happening?

Speaker 4 (57:41):
I think we get a significant border control legislation and
significant tax cuts.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Oh, I hope, So, I hope. So you think we
can get a tax bill past?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
I do? I do. I think you're going to see
some Democrats jump on board as well.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (57:58):
I do.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Well, you got your finger on the horse man every
day you're running the hill. You're the DC insider, the Professor,
the one and only Jim Dorn And thank you, Jim.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
We gotta get you on the show more often, man
like we used to. We gotta serve, We gotta curve
out a day of the week where it's the Professor's class.
You gotta get me that walk on music.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Let's do it, man, we'll get it. We'll get it.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
I can't remember what song was that Everybody wants to
rule the world.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
But there you go, mister producer. Next time we get
the Professor on, we gotta walk them on with that one.
All right, Thank you, Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I appreciate it, buddy, No problem, all right, take care
all right, guys. I hope you had fun I hope
he learned.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Like I said, Jim Dornan is a true, true DC insider.
He is a true professor, academically sound Catholic University as well,
poly Side major. Has worked on the hill, been a lobbyist.
You know, he was with President Trump at Trump Tower
when he walked down the escalators. He's been in so
many campaigns that it'll make your head spin. And maybe

(59:04):
next time or one of these signs when we come on,
we'll have him walk us through some of his most
renowned campaigns, some of the funny anecdotes that have happened.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
And and oh and I forgot to bring up with
Jim the twenty ten election and that that girl up
in I.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Think it was Pennsylvania O'Donnell when she had to come
out and say I'm not a witch. Hopefully we're not
going to get crazies like that anymore, and we'll continue winning.
But until then, till tomorrow, maga keep kicking ass, work it,
push it, never give up, and don't take shit from anybody.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
We'll see you tomorrow. Take care