February 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Emilio Gonzalez, former US Army Colonel, Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security, and National Security Council Advisor joins us.
We discuss the current problem with criminal illegals, FEMA payments to luxury Pakistani Hotel in NYC, Cartels, Trump response if they attack US forces, and of course the amazing job Tom Homan is doing as border Czar!
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We discuss the current problem with criminal illegals, FEMA payments to luxury Pakistani Hotel in NYC, Cartels, Trump response if they attack US forces, and of course the amazing job Tom Homan is doing as border Czar!
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to Diegge Going Rogue. Today is Wednesday, February the twelfth,
and we have a great guest today, so we're gonna
jump right into it. He's on limited time and Million
Gonzalez and Milio Welcome, Die Jge Going Rogue.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hey, thanks for the invitation, and I'm glad to see
you back on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I appreciate it. It's always it's always a pleasure talking to you.
Why don't you walk us through your background, since I
don't want to mess it up. I know you have
a long distinguished record. And by the way, my buddy's
over at the Navy, say go Navy.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So all right, we're all God's children. That's okay, that's right,
that's right. A twenty six years in the Army, retired
as a colonel Army Intelligence, did a tour at the
White House on the National Security Council. Then I was
the Immigration director for two years under President Bush. And
(01:16):
since then I've been doing a lot of consulting. I'm
in the financial services industry now, very active on the
Trump campaigns as a surrogate, but also operated under veterans
for Trump and national security professionals for Trump, and I
was fortunate enough to be on his transition team.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Awesome, well welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So, you know, just going back into the whole intel
background and immigration backgrounds, I mean, Homan.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hey, Tom Holman is one of a kind man. Let
me tell you, one of a kind. He calls him
like he sees him. He's a cops cop. Yeah, he's
got he's got a mission and he's going to accomplish
that mission. And we're all rooting for him.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
What do you think about the job he's on, Well, listen,
I think he's doing a great job because he's he's
just telling it like it is and and he is
making sure that you don't get lost in the fluff
or the or the noise.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
He is.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I think his official title is uh W Chief of
Staff for Enforcement.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, I don't think. I know they call the borders
are but uh.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I mean, but he's taking that to heart. He has
he's basically the voice and the face of border security.
People respect that, people respect him. He's he's he's not
anybody's full and I think he's going to do great things.
He's only been on the job maybe a month and
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uh and he's not going to leave a stone unturned
until we fix this this border issue that we have so.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Quick rush and so you know, we've heard numbers about
six hundred and six hundred and eighty thousand illegal criminals
in the country. You know, I bring this number up
a lot just because of the simple math. If we're
picking up a thousand people a day, that's over two
years before we can get this, you know, this garbage
out of here.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, but you know I haven't. You've got to start somewhere, right, Yeah.
And they are going to be people that you pick
up and deport. They're going to be people that are
going to deport themselves, and they're not going to wait
around it to be deported, I guess. So you know,
there's almost I would say an embarrassment of riches of
what you can do with the deportation of illegal immigrants.
(03:41):
But that just goes to show you how how just
totally chaotic the Biden administration left the board. It was
just it was no man's land. It was to do
whatever you want. There were the police Department, the Border
Patrol was turned into a social service agency. CBP wasn't
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allowed to do its job. I mean, it was just
a total disaster, and now this administration is gonna have
to pick up the pieces and we're gonna start somewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, yeah, and you know what, I've said this before.
I talked to people at the Bureau and they tell me, hey,
you know, we knew where all these people were, we
just weren't allowed to go execute and pick them up.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Didn't up.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And then you had ICE that had operational orders, so
that if ICE was gonna go pick up one person
and that person was in a room with ten other
illegal immigrants, they were not allowed to pick up the
other ten people. They were only allowed to pick up
whoever it was that they had an order for.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And that's and that's gonna change, right because we heard
Tom say, hey, you know what if we go pick
up a guy and he's standing around with a couple
other a couple other people that have thirteen tattooed on
their forehead, on their face, you know, they're.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
God, man, They're God, They're they're they're gonna be They're
gonna be put in a bag somewhere and they're going
to be thrown out of the country. And and now
the seriousness of this you have the administration is wanting
to reactivate Guantanamo as sort of a holding pen for
all of these folks until we can get them out
of the country. So has a capacity of about thirty
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thousand beds. I guess. And we're not going to wait around.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
If you pick up a bad guy, we're not going
to wait around for their home country to take them.
We're gonna ship them to Guantanamo. How's them there, Get
them out of our streets, out of our communities, and
then start working on repatriations.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
What about the So you know there's probably twenty million
illegals at least.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
That's about right. That's about right.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, how do we get rid of all these people?
Where is it impossible?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, listen, if you if you sit back and figure out,
you know, how long it'll take you and how many
seven forty sevens or how many triple sevens you have
to fill to get all these people out. You won't
get sleep at night. But you have to start, and
you have to send a message. Okay, this is no
longer the wild West, this is no longer a free
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for all. We're a serious country. We have laws. Those
laws have to be enforced. You know, times have changed,
new sheriff in town. I mean it's a you know,
I gets kind of old, but there is a new
sheriff in town. And you may not get to all
twenty million, granted, but you start a process and you
keep to that process, and all of a sudden, I'm
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a believer in self deportation. You're here. If you're here
and you can't find a job and you have nowhere
to live, you may very well want to go home
or where you have a family structure that can help
you out. But we have to start somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I agree with you. I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I was like, it's impossible to get rid of all
these people, but if they know we're coming after them,
they might self the port right.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Not only that, but you know, and I listen, I'm
not one for bureaucracy, but you know, I'll give you
a perfect exam. Well, everybody is scared of the I
R S. Whether you're an individual or a corporation. The
last thing you need is the IRS down your throat.
It may take that kind of a regiment with immigration
laws where businesses are going to be very scared of
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a business ICE or CBP to the tune that they
may be shut down, so you may lose your business
because you're employing illegals. Once that starts to happen, the
jobs go away, the incentives to come here go away,
if you don't have a work permit, if you're not
authorized to go into a medical facility, if your kids
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can no longer attend school, and most recently, you know,
the president is really tackling this whole issue of birthright citizenship.
So I think there are a lot of angles that
you could you could use, but you've got to start somewhere.
You can't just raise your hands and say, oh man,
there's too many of them. Forget it, We'll deal with
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it some other time. Now. I think this is one
of the few elections, probably the only election where a
president of the United States was elected on an immigration platform.
I mean that never even made the top five for
this uh, And that's what people elected him to do.
And he's going to do it, or at least he's
going to make a good faith effort to get it done.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, And I think it starts with the border. You
got to lock down on that border, like he was
doing in this first term. And once you seal that off,
I think the majority of problems get resolved, right, especially
with drugs, criminals and more people coming in. And like
you said, people that are in that all of a
sudden feels surrounded are going to want to leave.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
They're going to want to leave. I mean, if you're
if you're here by yourself, even if you're a twenty
something young man and life is really tough for you,
you may just say, you know what, you know, maybe
things weren't so bad in Honduras, or I'll solve it door.
I'm just going to go back, and who knows but
the fact.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But with that said, Emilio, what we saw at FEMA
fifty nine million dollars going to hotels, luxury hotels, are
getting EBT cards, are getting medicaid, they're getting room service
and and you know, and uh and and and and housekeeping.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's that's that's right.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
One of the best things that's happened in this country
has been DOGE Okay, the Department of Government Efficiency. These
guys are going in and they're peeling back the onion
and and what's happened traditionally, And as you know, the
budgets of these agencies are so big that you can
hide anything anywhere, and and if you're an activist administration,
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like the Bidens were where they put in leftist progressives,
whatever you want to call it. Throughout the administration, they
were sending checks everywhere, Catholic charities and Lutheran World Services
and Hebrew Immigration Society, all of these relocation NGO's made billions.
(09:53):
By the way, that hotel in New York is owned
by the government of Pakistan. Right, so we're sending fIF
the eight million dollars to Pakistan. We're putting people who
are illegal in hotels with room service and laundry service.
We're giving them all sorts of medical benefits, employment benefits.
Yet we can't do that for folks who lost their
homes in North Carolina or California.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, the worst thing about that is, you know a
lot of these people come from very dire straits in
their own country, right sure, very very dirt poor, And
all of a sudden, it's like, wait a minute, if
I can just get across the border, I get to
live in a hotel, I get room service, I get housekeeping,
and I get an EBT curt in health insurance.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Holy crap, that really is the American dream?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Right, Well, let me tell you, Governor Abbit, you know,
the guy is a political genius because he took what
was essentially a border issue that nobody cared about, and
he nationalized that issue. And you know, you hear that term,
you know, immigrate. Every state is a border state. It's true. Well,
you can talk a good game, but when somebody drops
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fifty thousand illegal migrants in your city, you have to
deal with it, and then all of a sudden your
story changes. Yeah, and by the way, speaking speaking of that,
that's one of the things that Homan wants to tackle.
He wants to tackle the sanctuary city is the sanctuary states.
If you want to be a sanctuary city, fine, don't
count on any US government financing, support, logistics, whatever. And oh,
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by the way, if you purposely hide an illegal immigrant,
you're running a fout of federal law and we're coming
after you. The minute you see a big city mayor
and handcuffs being prosecuted at the federal level, you're going
to see people's tunes changing considerably.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's going to be really interesting. I wanted to go
back to something that you mentioned because I brought it
up yesterday on yesterday's show. Is and you are part
of the Bush administration, part of forty three, he had
something very specific, the guest worker visa program.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Why are we not doing that?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Why why are employers this whole bullshit about farmers and
agro and cattle and you know, they need they need workers.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Always did that well, always had those types of visas, okay,
and and for the better part they worked.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
The problem is is that the people that are coming
across the border, they're not coming across the border to
work agg They're coming across the border to do anything. Hey,
they're going to want to work construction. They're going to
want to sit back and maybe catch catch a government check.
Why would I work if if the US government is
sending me, however little they're sending me, that's a lot
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of money, considering I just came from a country where
the minimum wages three bucks a day or something. So,
you know, we the volume of people that the Biden
administration let through. And by the way, Ivan, this is
something that I challenge my friends on the on the
Democratic side. Nobody has ever been able to explain what
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the strategy was in opening the US border. The administration
has never ever explained other than any anybody should be
allowed to apply for asylum. I agree, But if you
have to cross a other national borders to get to
the US to apply for asylum, you're really not applying
for ASTR. You're using our asylum laws as a way
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to get into the country and staying here, which was
another you know, another issue is that the perversion of
our asylum laws, the perversion of TPS, which you're hearing
a lot about now, and so again, this administration is
going to have a full plate when it comes to
immigration when it's and it's all connected, immigration, border security, crime,
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it's all interconnected, and this administration is going to have
to work on several fronts to get this done.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Do you think this administration has a real appetite to
enforce laws like you were mentioning to penalize employers, maybe
take their business fine and put them in jail like
I said yesterday, You.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Know, yeah, I think there are many There are many avenues.
Look e verify. I don't know if you've heard of
e verify, which is an electronic app that businesses can
people's social security and.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
We've been talking about you verified for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We have, by the way, and it works. The problem
is that people don't want to use it. You know
why businesses don't want to use it. Why because if
they want to hire Ivan Garcia and he goes through
everify and it turns out that Ivan is illegal, they
now have they have a quandary right they have to
probably not only not offer from a job, but probably
turn them in. Nobody wants to do that, but Everify works.
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The error rate is less than one tenth of one percent. Again,
you're going to have site visits. All of these things
are part of the greater whole. You've got a lot
of illegal immigrants right now that are in prison. Okay,
as soon as they finish their prison sentence, they go
directly to an aircraft. They don't no appeal, know nothing.
And as you mentioned, we have hundreds of thousands of
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people here that have criminal records. We know where most
of them are. Why because that's where they get their
welfare check center, their Social Security check cent. So again,
if this is going to be more than anything else,
it's not going to be because they don't want to
do it. It's going to be a scale. Where do
you start In the military, we call this a target
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rich environment. Where do you start and then you just
keep on going and going and going, and and at
some point people will notice the difference.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I mean, you're in the Cyclopaedia of Wealth and Information,
and I appreciate you being here. I want to I
want to pick your brain on a couple issues that
are related to the border that that are very specific
for national security. Right up your realm, right down your valley. Cartels,
How are you going to deal with the cartels with
a president just just just c of classified them as terrorists,
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so officially now we could go into Mexico and crush them.
That's not going to be that easy.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Either, right.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
The Cartels have now been classified as a transnational organization
of the criminal organizations, And what that does is it
allows the federal government to actually use a lot of
tools enforcement tools, economic and financial enforcement tools. But it
does keep a military option on the table. If you
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know that there is a location that the cartel is using,
you then have a right to take it out. Now,
do we want to launch a cruise missile across the
Mexican borders. No, that having been said, you can always
go to the Mexican government and say we know this
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is happening here and we expect you to do something,
and if you don't do something, our options are open.
And when you saw President Shinbaum all of a sudden
changing her tune from absolutely not, we're not going to
cooperate with the US government on immigration, now all of
a sudden she wants to be cooperative. She wants to
send ten thousand troops to the border. Well, or were
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they five years ago? Okay, you know, I've got a
real problem with all of the countries in Central America,
particularly Mexican. All these caravans, if you remember we see
on TV coming through, none of those people were destitute
or poor, because every one of them was sponsored by
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some relative. They were coming across the border. They were
buying water, they were buying food, they were buying transportation,
they were buying hotel rooms, and every single government was
giving them transit visas, not permanent visas. And as they
crossed country by country, they were dropping huge amounts of
dollars until they got to Mexico, which is a very
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large country, and they dropped an inordinate amount of money
into Mexico.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well and and along the way, right, so it helps
every country's economy as well.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And they had thousands of people through no interest, and
that's that's just an economic example. Then you get the
national security example. During the Biden administration, sixty five thousand
Chinese military aged men crossed into the US, primarily into
California from Mexico. That's about the equivalent of I don't know,
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seven infantry divisions. The Chinese control everybody that comes in
and out of their country. And by the way, the
Mexicans do too. They have a very good internal I know.
I was the army at Ache in Mexico. I know
how they operate. So you need to tell me. You
get these planeloads of Chinese flying into Mexico City and
you're not asking yourself, gee, why is that? Why do
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these people not have luggage? They all have backpacks? Why
is it that? Another example, why is it that Turkish
Airways has a daily flight from miss dan Bul to
Bougata and that flight is filled with African men from
Mauritania and in Guinea. Okay, nobody asked that question. Nobody
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goes to the Mexican government and say, gee, we'd like
to learn more about your tourism marketing in West Africa.
Another example, nobody flies in the nickel because there's nothing there.
Nicaragua is a beggar state. So where do people fly into.
They fly into El Salvador, that has a very very
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vast international transport system. All of a sudden, latime, Airways
that flies right here into Miami quadruples the number of
its flights from San Salvador to Managua. Why because there's
money there. They're transporting illegals. And oh, by the way,
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speaking of our friends in El Salvador, they saw the
business aspect of this as well, and they figure, well,
if they're not going to come through El Salvador, we'll
just charge every single one of them thirteen hundred euros
for a transit viza. And that's exactly what they did.
So all these people that are now going to they're
going back to Nicaragua to come back across. Each one
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of those has dropped thirteen hundred euros collectible at the
airport so that you can get on a plane and
go in Nicaragua and be trafficked into Texas. Huge business opportunity.
There was an instance where all of a sudden, the charter,
the charter airline business between Haiti and Nicaragua was off
the charts. Twenty thirty flights a day, charter flights a
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day flying into Nicaragua. Why is that? Why did nobody
call them out on this? Again? This is a business
the cartels went from. They didn't exchange fentanol for migrants.
They added migrants to their menu of offerings. So they
not only pushed drugs across the border. Now they were
making a killing on migrants. That's an amazing and one
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last item I have been All of this started. All
of this started when Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela got together.
They saw the opportunity when Biden opened the borders. So
what do you get? Cuba needs a safety valve. They
then allow people to travel on vacation to Managua. You
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have to buy a round trip ticket even though you
only go one way. The tickets cost four thousand dollars. Okay,
So then you go into Managua. But you know what,
Cuba has no airlift. So Venezuela decides to loan them
or at least lease them aircraft. And then when you
get to Managua, you have all of the coyotas there
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with science saying, you know, Ivan Garcia, Emilio Monsalez. Because
it's all pre paid and pre programmed. So you do
the math back of the napkin stuff. Cuba has trafficked
over five hundred thousand people during the Biden administration. That's
five percent of their population just on airfare alone. Five
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hundred thousand times four thousand is two billion. So there's
two billion dollars right there, just in that little segment.
And then when you get to Managua, you're going to
pay anywhere between six and twelve thousand dollars to get
traffic to the border. The low end you're going to walk,
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the high end, you'll get transit, and everybody makes money
along the way, and the Mexican government makes money by
looking the other way, maybe even facilitating this and sty't
not staying. So it has become a business. And I
was doing a lot of social media and I always
used to end my tweets by saying, it's a business.
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Follow the money. When you follow the money, you'll understand.
And then recently we've all been seeing following the money
internally right who made money off of illegal immigration. Regional governments,
the cartels, and the NGOs. Usngos made billions billions transporting
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you name it. So it became a business where the
only person that did not really play in this was
the ux taxpayer. We didn't play. We paid, Yeah, we
didn't play.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We paid.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's right, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So it's been said, Well, I guess it's more of
them been said. Has been confirmed that for a long
long time there's always been a member of the cartel
in the Mexican cabinet.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
If that's the case, and we don't have to be.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Fact, how are you going to hold them accountable to
do something against the cartels.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I don't listen. I don't think they may have an
individual cartel member in the cabinet, but I do think,
I do think the Mexican cabinets, written large, tend to
be like rent a minister. And it's been proven right
not long ago. I think I think the guy's last
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name was Luna. The attorney general or something was indicted.
It happen all the time. The cartels owned about thirty
to forty percent of Mexico. I served as the army
out of Shane, Mexico many years ago. Back then we
were worried about cartels. I can imagine now and the
Mexican government has gone through different iterations. They've abolished police departments.
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They created the National Guard, which is a parallel army.
They've used the army, which they didn't use before. And
the army was always very I'll tell you institutionally, the
army was always very hesitant to be involved in the
drug war because of corruption. They feared that because they
pay so little, that their soldiers and officers would be corrupted.
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And we're seeing that now so across all of Mexico,
whether it's at the national level or at the state level.
The cartels have their claws into everything. Can the Mexican
government do something, absolutely, but they won't do it of
their own evolution. They have to be forced into do it.
It has to be painful and then they can take action.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Then you think, you think Trump will, I think he's starting.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I think he's starting all of a sudden. You know,
we could never, in our wildest dreams, would have gotten
the Mexican government to commit ten thousand soldiers to patrol
their side of the border. Now what they do with
it is another matter. But up until Trump took office,
you had millions of people staging on the Mexican side
of the border, and they didn't do squat In fact,
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they were there selling them water and food and you know,
tortillas and papers for the kids. It was a business
for them. Now they're going to be held accountable. We're
going to put ten thousand soldiers, that's the equivalent of
a division and a half of infantry, and we're going
to see what you do and then we'll take it
from there.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So the other question that everybody's wondering and has been
said reported widely, is that the cartels have threatened to
use drones to attack US troops.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
What would happen?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I think I think that would be a huge strategic
mistake with this administration. I think the minute they launch
a drone across the US border, all bets are off.
You think, so all bets, absolutely, all bets are And
what does that mean, Well, that that means. It could
mean any number of things. It could be insertion of
special forces. It could mean firing back our own our
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own weaponry. By the way, our our heavy artillery has
a range of about thirty kilometers, so.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
We get there.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I genuinely think that whatever cartel member decides this is
a good idea, his colleagues should probably take him out
because that would be the end that would absolutely be
the end.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And you're convinced about that right.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Absolutely, an attack across the US border under this administration
would be an unforgivable act. And I think this admitted.
If this administration did not act, I think it would
lose all credibility all around the world.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I agree with you. I agree with you, Amelia. We're
way past your twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Man. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Hopefully we can get you back again and for a
long form, for a good forty five to sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know so much. There's so much to explain.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I know, we have learned so much in a short
thirty minute span, and we have to do it again.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Hey, it'd be my pleasure having It's a lot of fun. Listen.
I wish you well. I'm glad you're back on the air,
and I look forward to doing this again.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Absolutely. Thanks, somebody take care.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Thank you, sir, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
All right, Hopefully everybody had a good time to Amelia
Gonzales Man. That guy is so knowledgeable. He's an encyclopedia.
He just knows so much. And we've heard from him
real tangible factual stuff, information, data numbers, how it really works,
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who's making money, how are people making money through this
trafficking of humans.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
The card tells that go out is the countries, the
immigration systems of different countries, and obviously what would happen
if the if the cartels were just to decide to
uh attack our troops across the border. Coming from from
an army officer intelligence guy, uh, National Security Council, that's
(28:23):
very very assuring.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's good to hear. Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I think everybody would love to see the Trump administration
crush the cartels. I think it's easier said than done,
but you know, without a doubt that would probably happen.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Mister producer, what do we have teed up over there?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I know we we we have some things seed up
that we're going to talk about today.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Uh yeah, let's start.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
With Okay, let's go so Auten.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Politicians make promises, and we know a promise is made
to your mother. How does it make you feel that
two weeks in they followed through with the promise that
they made.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
He was Truda's word.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
I'm I'm it's it's amazing.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
That's just such a different relationship and I'm just so
incredibly grateful to the president.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So Auten politicians boom that's that.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That is an accomplishment, huge accomplishment from President Trump to
get a US citizen out of Russia. Huge news yesterday.
But I just sent you a tweet right now if
you can throw it up there. Big big news. Toulsi
gets confirmed as d and I. So that is big,
big news. We talked about it yesterday on the show.
(29:52):
You know, did she have the votes where we're gonna
be able to do that? And let's see what happens
with RFK. There she is, look at that. She's a sideman,
so I'll see new DN. I come on, you think
that's Ai.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Because I could.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Totally read the legible white on her place.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So anyway, so there's a there's another tweet that we
had up there or video clip from Elon that they
talk about that he saved I think a billion dollars
out of spending out of the Department of Education so far,
which is insane and mostly there it is, Yeah, there
(30:41):
it is there it is. Elon Ztoge just saved taxpayers
nine hundred and eighty two million dollars by cutting wasteful
spending out of the Department of Education. Look eight hundred
and eighty one million was asked from eighty to nine
bloated contracts, so that means overinflated.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
That means there are over valued.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Somebody was probably skimming and getting getting a side piece,
you know. And look, one hundred and one million dollars
for fucking d and I DEI. I'm sorry for DEI
training grants.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
This whole thing has been a racket and a scam.
And there's a video of Elon saying that they're going
to go after everybody that has made money, that has
become rich. I don't know if you have that video, misproducer.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
All right, well throw them up there. Let's see what
you got.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
There is big num was overou one hundred hundred million
dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Serious, bunny, missus must.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
You said on X that an example of the fruit
that you have cited was fifty million dollars of condoms
was sent to Gazo. But after fact check, this apparently
Gaza in Mozambique and the program was to protect them
against HIV. So can you correct these statements?
Speaker 7 (32:04):
It wasn't sent to Hamas, actually to as into Musambik,
which makes sense why condoms was sent there? And how
can make we make sure that all the statements that
you said were correct, so we can't trust what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Well, first of all, some of the things that I
say will be incorrect and should be corrected. So nobody
can a pad of thousands, I mean any you know,
we will make mistakes, but we'll not quickly to correct
any mistakes.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
So by the way, we've we've fact checked it first.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Uh, mister producer over here, fact check that on on
on Monday, right or was it last week? Yeah, you said, uh,
it's not Gaza Gaza, the Gaza strip, it's gas in Mozambique.
So we'll take we'll take credit for that. Thank you
very much, Thank you, mister producer, your stud Hi, what
do you got?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
One of the things is like what we're all trying
to sort of right size the federal bureaucracy, just make
sure that this Obviously they need to get a lot
of people working for the federal government, not as many
as currently. So we're saying, well, okay, well, let's if
people can retire, you know, with full benefit benefits and everything.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
That would be good.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
They can retire, get their retirement payments, everything, and then
we're told This is actually, I think a great anecdote
because we're told the most number of people that could
retire possibly in a month is ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
We're like, whoa, why why is that?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Well, because all the retirement paperwork is manual on paper.
It's manually calculated being written down on a piece of paper.
Then it goes down to mine, like, what do you
mean a mine? Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine where
we stole all the retirement paperwork. That look and you
look at picture of a picture of this mine. We'll
post the pictures afterwards. And this is this mine looks
(33:49):
like something out of the fifties because it was started
in nineteen fifty five, so it looks like it's.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Like a time warp.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
And then the speed, then the limiting factor is the
speed at which the mine, the sheft elevator can move,
determines how many people who can retire from the federal
from federal government.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And that's that's pretty pathetic, man, that is pretty pathetic.
So everything is actually manual.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's why we need dog.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So I say you a tweet about the judge, the
famous or infamous judge. Now, guess what, guys, this piece
of shit is actually married to look at that, the
swamp is deep. One of the activist judges blocking Trump's agenda,
Judge John Bates, is married to the former the founder
(34:41):
of a USAI defunded n g O. Carol Rees, is
a Democrat lawyer who started Hope for Children in Ethiopia,
a long time USAID grant recipient.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
So he's blocking Trump.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
From stopping you know, the bleed and the payouts of
all these scam funds. Why because it directly affects his wife.
That's a conflict of interest. This guy should be this barred,
thrown out and locked up. What a piece of shit,
like all these fucking Democrats are. Anyways, guys, there's so
much to talk about. Stay tuned tomorrow. We have a
(35:16):
kick as day. Tomorrow is Friday, right, Oh tomorrow's Thursday?
Oh shit, all right, so maybe we'll move it to Friday.
And now we have a scheduled tomorrow, maybe we'll just
keep it on Thursday. But we had something that was
real fun back in Battleground. We had law enforcement Fridays.
I made a mistake. I scheduled it for tomorrow. So
(35:36):
we'll keep it for tomorrow, and we're gonna talk about
we're gonna be talking about situational awareness, what they'll be
looking out for. We know there's criminal elements everywhere. We
know there are terrorists out here lurking about.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
We know there are.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Gangs like Trindadauwise, the MS thirteen, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. How do you protect yourself? How do you
protect your family? How do you become aware and not
become a victim? You do not want to miss some
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Welcome to Diegge Going Rogue. Today is Wednesday, February the twelfth,
and we have a great guest today, so we're gonna
jump right into it. He's on limited time and Million
Gonzalez and Milio Welcome, Die Jge Going Rogue.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hey, thanks for the invitation, and I'm glad to see
you back on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I appreciate it. It's always it's always a pleasure talking to you.
Why don't you walk us through your background, since I
don't want to mess it up. I know you have
a long distinguished record. And by the way, my buddy's
over at the Navy, say go Navy.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So all right, we're all God's children. That's okay, that's right,
that's right. A twenty six years in the Army, retired
as a colonel Army Intelligence, did a tour at the
White House on the National Security Council. Then I was
the Immigration director for two years under President Bush. And
(01:16):
since then I've been doing a lot of consulting. I'm
in the financial services industry now, very active on the
Trump campaigns as a surrogate, but also operated under veterans
for Trump and national security professionals for Trump, and I
was fortunate enough to be on his transition team.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Awesome, well welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So, you know, just going back into the whole intel
background and immigration backgrounds, I mean, Homan.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hey, Tom Holman is one of a kind man. Let
me tell you, one of a kind. He calls him
like he sees him. He's a cops cop. Yeah, he's
got he's got a mission and he's going to accomplish
that mission. And we're all rooting for him.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
What do you think about the job he's on, Well, listen,
I think he's doing a great job because he's he's
just telling it like it is and and he is
making sure that you don't get lost in the fluff
or the or the noise.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
He is.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I think his official title is uh W Chief of
Staff for Enforcement.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, I don't think. I know they call the borders
are but uh.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I mean, but he's taking that to heart. He has
he's basically the voice and the face of border security.
People respect that, people respect him. He's he's he's not
anybody's full and I think he's going to do great things.
He's only been on the job maybe a month and
(02:53):
uh and he's not going to leave a stone unturned
until we fix this this border issue that we have so.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Quick rush and so you know, we've heard numbers about
six hundred and six hundred and eighty thousand illegal criminals
in the country. You know, I bring this number up
a lot just because of the simple math. If we're
picking up a thousand people a day, that's over two
years before we can get this, you know, this garbage
out of here.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, but you know I haven't. You've got to start somewhere, right, Yeah.
And they are going to be people that you pick
up and deport. They're going to be people that are
going to deport themselves, and they're not going to wait
around it to be deported, I guess. So you know,
there's almost I would say an embarrassment of riches of
what you can do with the deportation of illegal immigrants.
(03:41):
But that just goes to show you how how just
totally chaotic the Biden administration left the board. It was
just it was no man's land. It was to do
whatever you want. There were the police Department, the Border
Patrol was turned into a social service agency. CBP wasn't
(04:03):
allowed to do its job. I mean, it was just
a total disaster, and now this administration is gonna have
to pick up the pieces and we're gonna start somewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, yeah, and you know what, I've said this before.
I talked to people at the Bureau and they tell me, hey,
you know, we knew where all these people were, we
just weren't allowed to go execute and pick them up.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Didn't up.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And then you had ICE that had operational orders, so
that if ICE was gonna go pick up one person
and that person was in a room with ten other
illegal immigrants, they were not allowed to pick up the
other ten people. They were only allowed to pick up
whoever it was that they had an order for.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And that's and that's gonna change, right because we heard
Tom say, hey, you know what if we go pick
up a guy and he's standing around with a couple
other a couple other people that have thirteen tattooed on
their forehead, on their face, you know, they're.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
God, man, They're God, They're they're they're gonna be They're
gonna be put in a bag somewhere and they're going
to be thrown out of the country. And and now
the seriousness of this you have the administration is wanting
to reactivate Guantanamo as sort of a holding pen for
all of these folks until we can get them out
of the country. So has a capacity of about thirty
(05:13):
thousand beds. I guess. And we're not going to wait around.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
If you pick up a bad guy, we're not going
to wait around for their home country to take them.
We're gonna ship them to Guantanamo. How's them there, Get
them out of our streets, out of our communities, and
then start working on repatriations.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
What about the So you know there's probably twenty million
illegals at least.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
That's about right. That's about right.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, how do we get rid of all these people?
Where is it impossible?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, listen, if you if you sit back and figure out,
you know, how long it'll take you and how many
seven forty sevens or how many triple sevens you have
to fill to get all these people out. You won't
get sleep at night. But you have to start, and
you have to send a message. Okay, this is no
longer the wild West, this is no longer a free
(06:06):
for all. We're a serious country. We have laws. Those
laws have to be enforced. You know, times have changed,
new sheriff in town. I mean it's a you know,
I gets kind of old, but there is a new
sheriff in town. And you may not get to all
twenty million, granted, but you start a process and you
keep to that process, and all of a sudden, I'm
(06:28):
a believer in self deportation. You're here. If you're here
and you can't find a job and you have nowhere
to live, you may very well want to go home
or where you have a family structure that can help
you out. But we have to start somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I agree with you. I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I was like, it's impossible to get rid of all
these people, but if they know we're coming after them,
they might self the port right.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Not only that, but you know, and I listen, I'm
not one for bureaucracy, but you know, I'll give you
a perfect exam. Well, everybody is scared of the I
R S. Whether you're an individual or a corporation. The
last thing you need is the IRS down your throat.
It may take that kind of a regiment with immigration
laws where businesses are going to be very scared of
(07:16):
a business ICE or CBP to the tune that they
may be shut down, so you may lose your business
because you're employing illegals. Once that starts to happen, the
jobs go away, the incentives to come here go away,
if you don't have a work permit, if you're not
authorized to go into a medical facility, if your kids
(07:38):
can no longer attend school, and most recently, you know,
the president is really tackling this whole issue of birthright citizenship.
So I think there are a lot of angles that
you could you could use, but you've got to start somewhere.
You can't just raise your hands and say, oh man,
there's too many of them. Forget it, We'll deal with
(07:58):
it some other time. Now. I think this is one
of the few elections, probably the only election where a
president of the United States was elected on an immigration platform.
I mean that never even made the top five for
this uh, And that's what people elected him to do.
And he's going to do it, or at least he's
going to make a good faith effort to get it done.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, And I think it starts with the border. You
got to lock down on that border, like he was
doing in this first term. And once you seal that off,
I think the majority of problems get resolved, right, especially
with drugs, criminals and more people coming in. And like
you said, people that are in that all of a
sudden feels surrounded are going to want to leave.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
They're going to want to leave. I mean, if you're
if you're here by yourself, even if you're a twenty
something young man and life is really tough for you,
you may just say, you know what, you know, maybe
things weren't so bad in Honduras, or I'll solve it door.
I'm just going to go back, and who knows but
the fact.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But with that said, Emilio, what we saw at FEMA
fifty nine million dollars going to hotels, luxury hotels, are
getting EBT cards, are getting medicaid, they're getting room service
and and you know, and uh and and and and housekeeping.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's that's that's right.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
One of the best things that's happened in this country
has been DOGE Okay, the Department of Government Efficiency. These
guys are going in and they're peeling back the onion
and and what's happened traditionally, And as you know, the
budgets of these agencies are so big that you can
hide anything anywhere, and and if you're an activist administration,
(09:32):
like the Bidens were where they put in leftist progressives,
whatever you want to call it. Throughout the administration, they
were sending checks everywhere, Catholic charities and Lutheran World Services
and Hebrew Immigration Society, all of these relocation NGO's made billions.
(09:53):
By the way, that hotel in New York is owned
by the government of Pakistan. Right, so we're sending fIF
the eight million dollars to Pakistan. We're putting people who
are illegal in hotels with room service and laundry service.
We're giving them all sorts of medical benefits, employment benefits.
Yet we can't do that for folks who lost their
homes in North Carolina or California.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, the worst thing about that is, you know a
lot of these people come from very dire straits in
their own country, right sure, very very dirt poor, And
all of a sudden, it's like, wait a minute, if
I can just get across the border, I get to
live in a hotel, I get room service, I get housekeeping,
and I get an EBT curt in health insurance.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Holy crap, that really is the American dream?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Right, Well, let me tell you, Governor Abbit, you know,
the guy is a political genius because he took what
was essentially a border issue that nobody cared about, and
he nationalized that issue. And you know, you hear that term,
you know, immigrate. Every state is a border state. It's true. Well,
you can talk a good game, but when somebody drops
(10:55):
fifty thousand illegal migrants in your city, you have to
deal with it, and then all of a sudden your
story changes. Yeah, and by the way, speaking speaking of that,
that's one of the things that Homan wants to tackle.
He wants to tackle the sanctuary city is the sanctuary states.
If you want to be a sanctuary city, fine, don't
count on any US government financing, support, logistics, whatever. And oh,
(11:18):
by the way, if you purposely hide an illegal immigrant,
you're running a fout of federal law and we're coming
after you. The minute you see a big city mayor
and handcuffs being prosecuted at the federal level, you're going
to see people's tunes changing considerably.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's going to be really interesting. I wanted to go
back to something that you mentioned because I brought it
up yesterday on yesterday's show. Is and you are part
of the Bush administration, part of forty three, he had
something very specific, the guest worker visa program.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Why are we not doing that?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Why why are employers this whole bullshit about farmers and
agro and cattle and you know, they need they need workers.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Always did that well, always had those types of visas, okay,
and and for the better part they worked.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
The problem is is that the people that are coming
across the border, they're not coming across the border to
work agg They're coming across the border to do anything. Hey,
they're going to want to work construction. They're going to
want to sit back and maybe catch catch a government check.
Why would I work if if the US government is
sending me, however little they're sending me, that's a lot
(12:26):
of money, considering I just came from a country where
the minimum wages three bucks a day or something. So,
you know, we the volume of people that the Biden
administration let through. And by the way, Ivan, this is
something that I challenge my friends on the on the
Democratic side. Nobody has ever been able to explain what
(12:46):
the strategy was in opening the US border. The administration
has never ever explained other than any anybody should be
allowed to apply for asylum. I agree, But if you
have to cross a other national borders to get to
the US to apply for asylum, you're really not applying
for ASTR. You're using our asylum laws as a way
(13:07):
to get into the country and staying here, which was
another you know, another issue is that the perversion of
our asylum laws, the perversion of TPS, which you're hearing
a lot about now, and so again, this administration is
going to have a full plate when it comes to
immigration when it's and it's all connected, immigration, border security, crime,
(13:32):
it's all interconnected, and this administration is going to have
to work on several fronts to get this done.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Do you think this administration has a real appetite to
enforce laws like you were mentioning to penalize employers, maybe
take their business fine and put them in jail like
I said yesterday, You.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Know, yeah, I think there are many There are many avenues.
Look e verify. I don't know if you've heard of
e verify, which is an electronic app that businesses can
people's social security and.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
We've been talking about you verified for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We have, by the way, and it works. The problem
is that people don't want to use it. You know
why businesses don't want to use it. Why because if
they want to hire Ivan Garcia and he goes through
everify and it turns out that Ivan is illegal, they
now have they have a quandary right they have to
probably not only not offer from a job, but probably
turn them in. Nobody wants to do that, but Everify works.
(14:25):
The error rate is less than one tenth of one percent. Again,
you're going to have site visits. All of these things
are part of the greater whole. You've got a lot
of illegal immigrants right now that are in prison. Okay,
as soon as they finish their prison sentence, they go
directly to an aircraft. They don't no appeal, know nothing.
And as you mentioned, we have hundreds of thousands of
(14:46):
people here that have criminal records. We know where most
of them are. Why because that's where they get their
welfare check center, their Social Security check cent. So again,
if this is going to be more than anything else,
it's not going to be because they don't want to
do it. It's going to be a scale. Where do
you start In the military, we call this a target
(15:08):
rich environment. Where do you start and then you just
keep on going and going and going, and and at
some point people will notice the difference.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I mean, you're in the Cyclopaedia of Wealth and Information,
and I appreciate you being here. I want to I
want to pick your brain on a couple issues that
are related to the border that that are very specific
for national security. Right up your realm, right down your valley. Cartels,
How are you going to deal with the cartels with
a president just just just c of classified them as terrorists,
(15:40):
so officially now we could go into Mexico and crush them.
That's not going to be that easy.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Either, right.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
The Cartels have now been classified as a transnational organization
of the criminal organizations, And what that does is it
allows the federal government to actually use a lot of
tools enforcement tools, economic and financial enforcement tools. But it
does keep a military option on the table. If you
(16:07):
know that there is a location that the cartel is using,
you then have a right to take it out. Now,
do we want to launch a cruise missile across the
Mexican borders. No, that having been said, you can always
go to the Mexican government and say we know this
(16:28):
is happening here and we expect you to do something,
and if you don't do something, our options are open.
And when you saw President Shinbaum all of a sudden
changing her tune from absolutely not, we're not going to
cooperate with the US government on immigration, now all of
a sudden she wants to be cooperative. She wants to
send ten thousand troops to the border. Well, or were
(16:49):
they five years ago? Okay, you know, I've got a
real problem with all of the countries in Central America,
particularly Mexican. All these caravans, if you remember we see
on TV coming through, none of those people were destitute
or poor, because every one of them was sponsored by
(17:11):
some relative. They were coming across the border. They were
buying water, they were buying food, they were buying transportation,
they were buying hotel rooms, and every single government was
giving them transit visas, not permanent visas. And as they
crossed country by country, they were dropping huge amounts of
dollars until they got to Mexico, which is a very
(17:32):
large country, and they dropped an inordinate amount of money
into Mexico.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well and and along the way, right, so it helps
every country's economy as well.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And they had thousands of people through no interest, and
that's that's just an economic example. Then you get the
national security example. During the Biden administration, sixty five thousand
Chinese military aged men crossed into the US, primarily into
California from Mexico. That's about the equivalent of I don't know,
(18:04):
seven infantry divisions. The Chinese control everybody that comes in
and out of their country. And by the way, the
Mexicans do too. They have a very good internal I know.
I was the army at Ache in Mexico. I know
how they operate. So you need to tell me. You
get these planeloads of Chinese flying into Mexico City and
you're not asking yourself, gee, why is that? Why do
(18:27):
these people not have luggage? They all have backpacks? Why
is it that? Another example, why is it that Turkish
Airways has a daily flight from miss dan Bul to
Bougata and that flight is filled with African men from
Mauritania and in Guinea. Okay, nobody asked that question. Nobody
(18:49):
goes to the Mexican government and say, gee, we'd like
to learn more about your tourism marketing in West Africa.
Another example, nobody flies in the nickel because there's nothing there.
Nicaragua is a beggar state. So where do people fly into.
They fly into El Salvador, that has a very very
(19:11):
vast international transport system. All of a sudden, latime, Airways
that flies right here into Miami quadruples the number of
its flights from San Salvador to Managua. Why because there's
money there. They're transporting illegals. And oh, by the way,
(19:31):
speaking of our friends in El Salvador, they saw the
business aspect of this as well, and they figure, well,
if they're not going to come through El Salvador, we'll
just charge every single one of them thirteen hundred euros
for a transit viza. And that's exactly what they did.
So all these people that are now going to they're
going back to Nicaragua to come back across. Each one
(19:53):
of those has dropped thirteen hundred euros collectible at the
airport so that you can get on a plane and
go in Nicaragua and be trafficked into Texas. Huge business opportunity.
There was an instance where all of a sudden, the charter,
the charter airline business between Haiti and Nicaragua was off
the charts. Twenty thirty flights a day, charter flights a
(20:16):
day flying into Nicaragua. Why is that? Why did nobody
call them out on this? Again? This is a business
the cartels went from. They didn't exchange fentanol for migrants.
They added migrants to their menu of offerings. So they
not only pushed drugs across the border. Now they were
making a killing on migrants. That's an amazing and one
(20:42):
last item I have been All of this started. All
of this started when Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela got together.
They saw the opportunity when Biden opened the borders. So
what do you get? Cuba needs a safety valve. They
then allow people to travel on vacation to Managua. You
(21:08):
have to buy a round trip ticket even though you
only go one way. The tickets cost four thousand dollars. Okay,
So then you go into Managua. But you know what,
Cuba has no airlift. So Venezuela decides to loan them
or at least lease them aircraft. And then when you
get to Managua, you have all of the coyotas there
(21:30):
with science saying, you know, Ivan Garcia, Emilio Monsalez. Because
it's all pre paid and pre programmed. So you do
the math back of the napkin stuff. Cuba has trafficked
over five hundred thousand people during the Biden administration. That's
five percent of their population just on airfare alone. Five
(21:52):
hundred thousand times four thousand is two billion. So there's
two billion dollars right there, just in that little segment.
And then when you get to Managua, you're going to
pay anywhere between six and twelve thousand dollars to get
traffic to the border. The low end you're going to walk,
(22:14):
the high end, you'll get transit, and everybody makes money
along the way, and the Mexican government makes money by
looking the other way, maybe even facilitating this and sty't
not staying. So it has become a business. And I
was doing a lot of social media and I always
used to end my tweets by saying, it's a business.
(22:35):
Follow the money. When you follow the money, you'll understand.
And then recently we've all been seeing following the money
internally right who made money off of illegal immigration. Regional governments,
the cartels, and the NGOs. Usngos made billions billions transporting
(23:01):
you name it. So it became a business where the
only person that did not really play in this was
the ux taxpayer. We didn't play. We paid, Yeah, we
didn't play.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We paid.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's right, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So it's been said, Well, I guess it's more of
them been said. Has been confirmed that for a long
long time there's always been a member of the cartel
in the Mexican cabinet.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
If that's the case, and we don't have to be.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Fact, how are you going to hold them accountable to
do something against the cartels.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I don't listen. I don't think they may have an
individual cartel member in the cabinet, but I do think,
I do think the Mexican cabinets, written large, tend to
be like rent a minister. And it's been proven right
not long ago. I think I think the guy's last
(23:55):
name was Luna. The attorney general or something was indicted.
It happen all the time. The cartels owned about thirty
to forty percent of Mexico. I served as the army
out of Shane, Mexico many years ago. Back then we
were worried about cartels. I can imagine now and the
Mexican government has gone through different iterations. They've abolished police departments.
(24:19):
They created the National Guard, which is a parallel army.
They've used the army, which they didn't use before. And
the army was always very I'll tell you institutionally, the
army was always very hesitant to be involved in the
drug war because of corruption. They feared that because they
pay so little, that their soldiers and officers would be corrupted.
(24:41):
And we're seeing that now so across all of Mexico,
whether it's at the national level or at the state level.
The cartels have their claws into everything. Can the Mexican
government do something, absolutely, but they won't do it of
their own evolution. They have to be forced into do it.
It has to be painful and then they can take action.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Then you think, you think Trump will, I think he's starting.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I think he's starting all of a sudden. You know,
we could never, in our wildest dreams, would have gotten
the Mexican government to commit ten thousand soldiers to patrol
their side of the border. Now what they do with
it is another matter. But up until Trump took office,
you had millions of people staging on the Mexican side
of the border, and they didn't do squat In fact,
(25:31):
they were there selling them water and food and you know,
tortillas and papers for the kids. It was a business
for them. Now they're going to be held accountable. We're
going to put ten thousand soldiers, that's the equivalent of
a division and a half of infantry, and we're going
to see what you do and then we'll take it
from there.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So the other question that everybody's wondering and has been
said reported widely, is that the cartels have threatened to
use drones to attack US troops.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
What would happen?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I think I think that would be a huge strategic
mistake with this administration. I think the minute they launch
a drone across the US border, all bets are off.
You think, so all bets, absolutely, all bets are And
what does that mean, Well, that that means. It could
mean any number of things. It could be insertion of
special forces. It could mean firing back our own our
(26:22):
own weaponry. By the way, our our heavy artillery has
a range of about thirty kilometers, so.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
We get there.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I genuinely think that whatever cartel member decides this is
a good idea, his colleagues should probably take him out
because that would be the end that would absolutely be
the end.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And you're convinced about that right.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Absolutely, an attack across the US border under this administration
would be an unforgivable act. And I think this admitted.
If this administration did not act, I think it would
lose all credibility all around the world.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I agree with you. I agree with you, Amelia. We're
way past your twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Man. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Hopefully we can get you back again and for a
long form, for a good forty five to sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know so much. There's so much to explain.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I know, we have learned so much in a short
thirty minute span, and we have to do it again.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Hey, it'd be my pleasure having It's a lot of fun. Listen.
I wish you well. I'm glad you're back on the air,
and I look forward to doing this again.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Absolutely. Thanks, somebody take care.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Thank you, sir, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
All right, Hopefully everybody had a good time to Amelia
Gonzales Man. That guy is so knowledgeable. He's an encyclopedia.
He just knows so much. And we've heard from him
real tangible factual stuff, information, data numbers, how it really works,
(27:53):
who's making money, how are people making money through this
trafficking of humans.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
The card tells that go out is the countries, the
immigration systems of different countries, and obviously what would happen
if the if the cartels were just to decide to
uh attack our troops across the border. Coming from from
an army officer intelligence guy, uh, National Security Council, that's
(28:23):
very very assuring.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's good to hear. Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I think everybody would love to see the Trump administration
crush the cartels. I think it's easier said than done,
but you know, without a doubt that would probably happen.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Mister producer, what do we have teed up over there?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I know we we we have some things seed up
that we're going to talk about today.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Uh yeah, let's start.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
With Okay, let's go so Auten.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Politicians make promises, and we know a promise is made
to your mother. How does it make you feel that
two weeks in they followed through with the promise that
they made.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
He was Truda's word.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
I'm I'm it's it's amazing.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
That's just such a different relationship and I'm just so
incredibly grateful to the president.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So Auten politicians boom that's that.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That is an accomplishment, huge accomplishment from President Trump to
get a US citizen out of Russia. Huge news yesterday.
But I just sent you a tweet right now if
you can throw it up there. Big big news. Toulsi
gets confirmed as d and I. So that is big,
big news. We talked about it yesterday on the show.
(29:52):
You know, did she have the votes where we're gonna
be able to do that? And let's see what happens
with RFK. There she is, look at that. She's a sideman,
so I'll see new DN. I come on, you think
that's Ai.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Because I could.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Totally read the legible white on her place.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So anyway, so there's a there's another tweet that we
had up there or video clip from Elon that they
talk about that he saved I think a billion dollars
out of spending out of the Department of Education so far,
which is insane and mostly there it is, Yeah, there
(30:41):
it is there it is. Elon Ztoge just saved taxpayers
nine hundred and eighty two million dollars by cutting wasteful
spending out of the Department of Education. Look eight hundred
and eighty one million was asked from eighty to nine
bloated contracts, so that means overinflated.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
That means there are over valued.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Somebody was probably skimming and getting getting a side piece,
you know. And look, one hundred and one million dollars
for fucking d and I DEI. I'm sorry for DEI
training grants.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
This whole thing has been a racket and a scam.
And there's a video of Elon saying that they're going
to go after everybody that has made money, that has
become rich. I don't know if you have that video, misproducer.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
All right, well throw them up there. Let's see what
you got.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
There is big num was overou one hundred hundred million
dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Serious, bunny, missus must.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
You said on X that an example of the fruit
that you have cited was fifty million dollars of condoms
was sent to Gazo. But after fact check, this apparently
Gaza in Mozambique and the program was to protect them
against HIV. So can you correct these statements?
Speaker 7 (32:04):
It wasn't sent to Hamas, actually to as into Musambik,
which makes sense why condoms was sent there? And how
can make we make sure that all the statements that
you said were correct, so we can't trust what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Well, first of all, some of the things that I
say will be incorrect and should be corrected. So nobody
can a pad of thousands, I mean any you know,
we will make mistakes, but we'll not quickly to correct
any mistakes.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
So by the way, we've we've fact checked it first.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Uh, mister producer over here, fact check that on on
on Monday, right or was it last week? Yeah, you said, uh,
it's not Gaza Gaza, the Gaza strip, it's gas in Mozambique.
So we'll take we'll take credit for that. Thank you
very much, Thank you, mister producer, your stud Hi, what
do you got?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
One of the things is like what we're all trying
to sort of right size the federal bureaucracy, just make
sure that this Obviously they need to get a lot
of people working for the federal government, not as many
as currently. So we're saying, well, okay, well, let's if
people can retire, you know, with full benefit benefits and everything.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
That would be good.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
They can retire, get their retirement payments, everything, and then
we're told This is actually, I think a great anecdote
because we're told the most number of people that could
retire possibly in a month is ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
We're like, whoa, why why is that?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Well, because all the retirement paperwork is manual on paper.
It's manually calculated being written down on a piece of paper.
Then it goes down to mine, like, what do you
mean a mine? Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine where
we stole all the retirement paperwork. That look and you
look at picture of a picture of this mine. We'll
post the pictures afterwards. And this is this mine looks
(33:49):
like something out of the fifties because it was started
in nineteen fifty five, so it looks like it's.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Like a time warp.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
And then the speed, then the limiting factor is the
speed at which the mine, the sheft elevator can move,
determines how many people who can retire from the federal
from federal government.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And that's that's pretty pathetic, man, that is pretty pathetic.
So everything is actually manual.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's why we need dog.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So I say you a tweet about the judge, the
famous or infamous judge. Now, guess what, guys, this piece
of shit is actually married to look at that, the
swamp is deep. One of the activist judges blocking Trump's agenda,
Judge John Bates, is married to the former the founder
(34:41):
of a USAI defunded n g O. Carol Rees, is
a Democrat lawyer who started Hope for Children in Ethiopia,
a long time USAID grant recipient.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
So he's blocking Trump.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
From stopping you know, the bleed and the payouts of
all these scam funds. Why because it directly affects his wife.
That's a conflict of interest. This guy should be this barred,
thrown out and locked up. What a piece of shit,
like all these fucking Democrats are. Anyways, guys, there's so
much to talk about. Stay tuned tomorrow. We have a
(35:16):
kick as day. Tomorrow is Friday, right, Oh tomorrow's Thursday?
Oh shit, all right, so maybe we'll move it to Friday.
And now we have a scheduled tomorrow, maybe we'll just
keep it on Thursday. But we had something that was
real fun back in Battleground. We had law enforcement Fridays.
I made a mistake. I scheduled it for tomorrow. So
(35:36):
we'll keep it for tomorrow, and we're gonna talk about
we're gonna be talking about situational awareness, what they'll be
looking out for. We know there's criminal elements everywhere. We
know there are terrorists out here lurking about.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
We know there are.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Gangs like Trindadauwise, the MS thirteen, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. How do you protect yourself? How do you
protect your family? How do you become aware and not
become a victim? You do not want to miss some
tomorrow's show. Uh as always I J's going rogue. You
can find us on Rumble, Spotify, Speaker, Apple, Amazon, Audible,
(36:12):
who else, iHeart Jesus, Pandora.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
We're everywhere. Do not miss us.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Follow us on We're on Acts, We're on Facebook, We're
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and we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
We're gonna kick ass tomorrow. Take care,
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