S2E9: Funding, Startups, Entertainment, Media.

We are joined by serial entrepenuer Dave Drever.

Dave Drever founded his first company at the age of 17 and has been a serial entrepreneur ever since. After being recruited to Los Angeles in his senior year of college, he became an EVP for filmmaker Mark Brown (Barbershop) who is responsible for generating $400m at the box office. In 2007, Dave had the #1 viral video of the year and was recruited by a Washington D.C. based VC to setup the digital export arm of the Chinese government in Beijing. During this time, Dave setup the Hulu Channel for China, built their English language mobile apps and became a soft power expert reaching over 1bn people globally.​Today, Dave rosters various multi-national organizations, ESG companies and celebrity talent.  Upon being challenged by his mentor who asked him "to what end?", Dave created and is launching the Freely Movement in 2023 to train up 10m Freely Ambassadors to do 1bn acts of God's love. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to igh Going Rogue. Today's Monday, February seventeenth, and
we have a kick ass guest today, old friend David Driver.
You've probably heard of him. Serial entrepreneur, business guy, entertainment, media,
you name it.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
He's done it.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
All across all industries, all every aspect of business. He's
had his hands on at one point or another. Hey Dave,
welcome to Going Rogue. And there's nobody more rogue than you,
right buddy, wait to help you.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
What there you go.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Running around the world.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
You gotta be rogue or you don't play in that game.
So thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure
being your friend and watching you build a network from
scratch and just have the most respect for you.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, I appreciate it, man. And you know shit, I
mean we've been talking about this for way back to
way back to right right after Trump's first first administration. Man, God,
it's been so long, So walk us through. Man, you've
had your hands on everything.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Endeavor's a partner of yours and one of your businesses.
I mean, you can't get any bigger than that. They
bought the UFC several years ago for four billion dollars.
So what a partner to have? How did you start?
How did you get into this? What are you doing now?
I know you're in Brazil right now with your hands
on a lot of crucial stuff. Kind of walk us
through the beginning you've been on Larry King. Jeez, I

(01:54):
don't even why don't you just walk us through? And
so let me trying to ask you questions.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, I'll give you a kind kind of the quick
story of it was grew up in the media, kind
of the genesis of media. So I had a handheld
camera in my hands and started my own business at seventeen.
By the time I was coming out of college, I
got a call from a big producer in Hollywood named
Mark Brown. Mark had just written and produced a Barbershop

(02:22):
and that became the largest grossing urban film.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Of all time at that time.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
And so I had this idea that video was going
to go on to the internet. So we're talking two
thousand and three, two thousand and four, and I started
tinkering around with how to stream video over the internet
number one, but then number two had to monetize it.
And by two thousand and five, two thousand and six,
we had figured out a way to put a PayPal

(02:47):
wall in front of a video that we were creating,
and I went to bed one night and I posted
a link on a message board because we didn't have
social media at the time, and I woke up the
next morning and one hundred and fifty one hundred and
sixty people had paid ninety nine cents to download the video,
and that was kind of the day. I said, we

(03:09):
can make money while we sleep if we create really
good content. We have international distribution through the Internet, and
we can monetize it through whatever paywall paypaler.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Today there's one.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Hundred of them that you could really be a player.
So we started. By seven, we had the number one
viral video of the year.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
I was about to ask you about that. So you
had the number one viral video way back then?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
What was it? How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:36):
So we were doing one hundred and ninety five episodes
and one of them just happened to be a runway
fashion show in Hollywood over I think was called the Skybar.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
And before the celebrity fashion.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Show started, there was a kind of a martial artist
group that came out and the guy tried to do
a flip and he landed on his back and it
put a hole in the runway about the size of
a model.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
And sure enough, the first model walks out on the
catwalk with.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Her head up and she falls through the hole into
the pool below. And I wound up licensing that to
letterman Leno, I think South Korea all over the world overnight,
and Yahoo wound up claiming that to be the number
one viral video of O seven. It went to twelve
million hits on YouTube within the first few hours.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
The lady that actually fell through that that hole was
the runner up on The Bachelor att or on The Bachelor,
so she had a little bit of celebrity going for
Sarah Welsh was her name. But the ironic part was
that video got a call from Senator Conrad Berne's office

(04:54):
to me, and he was running the telecommunications division of
Senate I believe at the time, and they flew a
guy out named Leo Jackometo, who wound up becoming my
mentor with my best friends, and they said, hey, we're
doing this thing with Google.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
It's called thirty under thirty.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
We're going to give a million dollars to thirty kids
under thirty and you're going to be the first one.
And this was in a hotel lobby in San Diego.
After that, I got an email from them saying you
can never mention Google's involved in this. That became what's
known as the Founder's Fund, which a lot Luke Nosek

(05:34):
and Brian Singerman, all of Elon's kind of the pays.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, they went on to do that, and I got
sent to Bethesda to Washington, d C. With the Venture
Group and we went to China and I got trained
on being a soft power expert and set up the
digital export arm for the Chinese government. So that was
in two thousand and eight, right before right around the
Beijing Olympic. So I was there during that time and

(06:04):
and learned and saw so much.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
But we we wound up cutting a deal with the.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Government to do to export the English language for shin
wanhus Agency, Shanghai Media Group, and CCTV, so all the
state owned media. And that's when I was when I
realized it was a war strategy by the Chinese government.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Dude, that's amazing, that's an amazing story. So what a
way to get capital, huh? Because a viral video so you.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Were involved with the founder's fund way at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Huh yeah, but yeah, way they were going to make
me the first. So there was some I saw the email.
I'll send it to you off record, but for your validation.
But yeah, they had some board issues with Peter and
I think Sean were looking and thinking about how this
would look for Google and all that. But yeah, they

(06:53):
I got sent to to Beijing. So I was in
Beijing and then in Tokyo and that was really the
start of me to an international business. And I was, gosh,
I don't know, I was a young I was a
young kid, maybe twenty four.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And what did you go to school for business?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (07:10):
I saw?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I started uh an accounting and realized that my skill
set was more in strategic management.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
So I moved over to the business school.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
And in strategic management and uh sax State is where
I graduated from, so or where I went to school at.
But that strategic management is where I was focused on.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Damn. That is so that that's that's an amazing story man.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
And so you've created several companies along the way. One
of your companies you have Endeavor as a partner. How
did that happen. What does that company do and does
that does that partner some so ongoing or Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
So that company was called Freely Okay and it kind
of changed. But it started as just a Christian media
a cool, hit Christian media company that I'd want to
work for. And I went into one of the board
members pitched it and they said, I had a dream
about this last night, and I don't know why nobody's
doing this, and this is like ten years ago. Yeah,

(08:18):
and so that started this process. I was raising millions
of dollars and we were, you know, out securing riots
and doing big events and and.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
So that it's changed.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
It's more of a social impact company now, but it's
you know, it's still alive and well and I'm still
working it all over the globe. So yeah, they've always
been a great partner.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I see your videos on h on social man. If
I ever need to get motivated, I just love for dream.
And I see him somewhere, man, somewhere around the world, Ukraine,
you're Brazil, Somewhere He's walking down the street and saying.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Get up, Get the fuck up, Yeah, move it. It's
a beautiful day. What are you doing? It's uh it's it's.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's just a blessing.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I'm still alive because you know, part of the Freely journeys,
I went to the most dangerous places in the world.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know, where the cartels are at I went.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I was in at this time last year, I was
in Ukraine during the war. Had had my life, I've
had hits on me, I've had multiple things, but I
had this vision of what I knew I really wanted
to do, and that was to help and serve people.
And so I just kept going and trying to figure out,
like before I ask anybody else to do it, let

(09:32):
me go do it first. And so that's, uh, that's
why I've been. I've been around the world and I
love international business. So like I'm in Brazil as as
we were talking, I'm doing agriculture down here, and uh,
you know, not in Brazil, but exporting agriculture, and you know,
I just love finding cool deals that help people.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
So dude, it's it's amazing because you never know where
the hell Dreamer is, right and you just go go
on social and you look him up and it's like,
wait a minute, wasn't he like in La last week,
or wasn't he in Texas last week, and you know,
across the world and and and always doing something and

(10:13):
and you're right because I remember seeing you in some
of these shady places going, dude, this is a fucking gringo. Dude,
he's gonna get fun, He's gonna get fucking slaughtered.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Does he even know what the fuck he's doing? Holy shit?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
And lo and behold you're here. You didn't get killed,
you know, so, so it's a blessing. And you're a
Christian man. I know that you have a lot of faith,
so I'm sure the Good Lord has kept you safe.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
He has, but you have to have some street smarts.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
In Brazil, my nickname is Gringo local.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
In Maico, my name is Primo Locale.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
And so I've been able to kind of navigate it.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
And that was only because I was from California, where
there's a lot of gangs and you know, shady stuff
going on. So I was I was aware of my
surroundings and knew what not to do.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
But that I think there's a guardian angel.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Probably watch it a lot of doubt, brother, But you know,
last week we had a law enforcement expert and UH
security expert and uh and and and we had another
guy who's you know, working narcotics and cartels and all that,
and and telling us about the dangers of the cartels
and how they operate and everything, and uh and and
I could just keep on thinking. I was like, how

(11:28):
the hell did Dream survive that crap man? What a
crazy son of a bitch, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
And I've been talking to one of our senators about
this because I have a little bit of an angst
about spring break coming up, yeah, and some retaliation, because
I know we're going we're going really hard after it.
But and Homan came out and he said, it's you know,
the cartels are like a Fortune five hundred company, and
they're so sophisticated, it's like beyond your imagination. Oh yeah, dude,

(11:55):
like Bamboo Union. They might be, you know, manipulating commodities here.
And then you've got you know, arms dealers over in
Europe somewhere doing something.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
And then you've got the l Salvadorian gang bangers.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
So when when you look at when you put all
that together, it's, you know, you can't go after the
onesies and twosies. You kind of got start looking at
the head of the snake. And then that's when I
think it starts getting dangerous for our law enforcement and
our military. So praying, praying that, you know, and I
think a lot of it comes from poverty, man, like
do you people want anything to live for? And and

(12:31):
but first hand, I'm just I'm glad that I'm safe.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
And you know, yeah, I had uh you know this
U D a guy that I've known for a couple
of decades. He was telling me, he was like, dude,
we all know who the Cortel guys are. I mean,
they exactly what you said. They're like a fortune five
hundred company. If we want to meet it with them,
we call their office, talk to their secretary and book
an appointment because and their offices are in you know,

(12:56):
high rises, real you know office buildings. You know, they're
not like down some path, you know, in the dark.
And so it's pretty crazy. Organized crime is is really
really bad. And like you said, you know, when you
get into the weeds, that's where it's really violent and
dangerous and all that.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
But the guys at the top their business.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, young guys are the dangerous ones.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
And you can go to any strip club or nightclub
and find them but when you the higher levels where
it's hard to navigate, that's when it's it looks more
like a corporation. Yeah, and you will never know who
those people are. They go by like in Mexico, the
Gobbo is the guy's name. Gobbo means no name, so
it's like I got I gotta find Gobbo. So it's

(13:39):
you know, it's it's all based on trust and you
can't be a gringo and try to navigate that.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So you guys represent talent, you move stuff socially, digitally.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
What's your sweet spot.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like I love, like, I truly love like celebrity management
and the issue with celebrity management, Like I have one main.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Client right now. Her name is Kelly ben Simone.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
She's Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, but she's really a
real estate agent Luxury of real Estate agent at New
York and just built a tremendous brand. And Kelly and
I have a really good relationship where we I just
put on iHeart doing a podcast, and we're doing.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Our book and some other things.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
But the problem with celebrity management is there's lawyers, agents, managers,
family members, and you have to start carrying like four phones.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Just to manage everybody's requests.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
So you just don't have like enough manpower, enough like
hours in a day to maybe like service a lot
of clients by yourself.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
So I'm a small shop.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
So I actually I actually love serving celebrities and helping
them change the world, like for the better. Where my
sweet spot is is probably international relations, international business.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I just I know how to navigate the world.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I've been on more trains, buses, taxis, you know, play
like Lake Lugano, Switzerland, where the all the Russian oligarks
went to hang out. That's it would have been one
of my favorite trips I've ever taken.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
And how I got there.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
You have to go through a lot and get on
a train, and you had to get on a bus,
and then you got to go to this little Italian
restaurant to get a taxi and then and then it
takes you over the mountains into Lake Lugano, and and
it's like, these adventures are what drives what drives kind
of my my passion to keep doing this.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's great, man.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
So you were you were saying that you were I
mean off the air, you were saying, you know what
you were involved in Brazil.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Did you want to talk about that a little bit
or is.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
That you know, yeah, no, I think this is something
you know, as you know, I know you're a firm
Trump supporter, and uh, you know, as we both are.
And I think what what he's doing with international trade
is like pulling up a tree stump and there the
roots are so deep in international trade. So you know,
I'm here sourcing agricultural products for temporary pain points.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I won't speak specifically about what agricultural.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Products just because you know there's vultures and there's market.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, competitive advantage, right, so.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah, exactly exactly, so, but you know we're here doing
ag and in the disruption, I think they can come
from tariffs in the trade stuff. Is is something that
I'm monitoring very closely. When your shelves don't have certain
products on, you know, where the prices are skyrocketing, the

(16:45):
general public or population gets restless pretty quick. One of
my mentors, Leo, who I talked about earlier, he said,
we're only nine meals away from total chaos. If you
if you miss yeah, if you missed breakfast, lunch, and
dinner for three days straight, there would be the whole

(17:06):
world would go chaotic. And this is why g and communism.
That is their number food safety or food security is
the number one threat to communism.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
They're nine meals away from destruction.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
But that that's that's true here in the US too, right,
I mean, yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yeah, I mean the last time I was in the US,
or one of the last times I was in Columbus Circle,
I was living in New York, in Columbus Circle, yeah,
and I went to CVS in a box of cheerios
was twelve dollars.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Holy shit, are you serious?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
And I was like, this isn't sustainable, man. And now
they're starting to shut down CBS is and all this.
But I was like, I can't live like this. And
oddly enough, I was going back to Ukraine and I
found a last minute cruise for sixteen hundred dollars sixteen days,
and it turned so it was one hundred dollars a day,
all inclusive, room board for everything, and I jumped on

(17:59):
that and was headed back to Ukraine because I couldn't.
I couldn't, like, it's not sustainable to pay for hotels
and taxis and twelve dollars boxes of teerios in New York.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Don't know how you guys are doing it, but God
bless you, and you know, I'm watching as Elon and
Trump kind of training the swamp or the home prices
and how that's you know, what do you think about
that home going on sale and the mortgage call downs
and all that?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
So it's it's a fascinating time.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
I almost feel like part of me just wants to
be like sit on the sidelines and just wait for
like six months until all this stuff shuffles out, and
then get in so they don't lose your ass.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I think I think, especially on
real estate right now, is you got to sit back
right there's I wouldn't buy a fucking door right now,
There's no way, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, what do you think? Do you think?

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Is it a six month window, is it a twelve month,
eighteen month window?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
What do you see in real shit? I know you're
pre active and know a lot of players in there.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
So depending on the market, I mean, I haven't really
tracked us too tightly, but I think your market by market,
I really feel like it's market by market, and you know,
like Maryland's prices are going up because everybody's leaving DC.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
So see, I don't.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Think you can make a blank a blanket statement of hey,
real estate's bad. I think it's almost like sit back,
let the dust settle, and then see if you want
to move on something.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, Florida, I'll tell you about Florida. The condo market
is like is dropping. There's so much inventory because they
passed a law that you know, starting January versus year,
all the associations needed to have infrastructure reserves, and that
accounts right because of that surf side building to collapse.

(19:51):
So all of a sudden, they got hit with all
these assessments you know in some cases like one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars you know versus you know, four
HU a month, and people are like, holy shit, I
need to sell and get out of here. So there
was this mass thing. But now the Santas is talking
about removing the property tax in Florida. You're saying, you know,

(20:11):
tax should be transactional and pay it once when you
buy it, you shouldn't pay.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It every year.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So I can imagine if that happens, that's gonna be
a way to offset it, and you're gonna get another
boom again in real.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Estate, probably in Florida.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
It'll just spike prices that are already high and already crazy.
I mean, you look at South Florida, Miami, Fort Lauderdale,
all the way.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Up to Palm Beach.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
You know, they used to be cheap compared to DC,
and now DC is cheap as shit. You know, it's
like the freaking ghetto compared to the price that's down here.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, it's any investment is based on legislation. Yeah, it
makes me hyper nervous because they can change it back right,
You're waiting for the votes to come down, and it's
it's almost a little bit of gambling in that regard.
You Now and then how long does the legislation takes pass?
How long does it take to be put in place?
Can it be reversed if the new administration comes in

(21:05):
or a new leadership comes in, And so legislation based investing,
it just makes me a little bit hesitant because most
investments are hard enough because you have but you have
controlled like costs. When the variable costs start coming in,
you know, pandemics, weather legislation, then you get a little

(21:29):
bit in the weeds.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Talking about weeds, what about weed? I mean that's a
crazy investment. I mean a lot of people invest in
big time in weed thinking it was gonna blow up,
and you look at the weed socks and they're like
almost delisted.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Right, many did this?

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah who I was reading.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
One celebrity just lost their ass on that somewhere I
can't remember, but yeah, you're right. Yeah, those were you know,
supposed to be red hot. And I think drudges as drudges.
Running an article today about cannabis drinks now replace an
alcohol and yeah, like I said, legislation based investing, it

(22:06):
just it gets a little tricky.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Hey, So when you were with me, because I'm not
a lobby if I was a lobbyist and a deep
lobbying and pockeys or relationships, yeah I might have some
intel on that.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
But yeah, I always wanted to be a lobbyst.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'm gonna have the pot lobbyist on next week. Yeah. Yeah,
this guy Don Murphy, he does a lobbying for the
cannabis industry. So I'm gonna have him on and I'm
gonna ask him some tough questions like uh, well, first,
first of all, I'm gonna ask him, you know, how
is that going? Where does he see that happening, and
then uh, then some tough questions. Right, there's a lot

(22:41):
of information and doctors coming out there saying that, hey,
marijuana is not that safe, that it can call psychosis,
and you know, people under twenty six should not use
marijuana because the brain is still developing and.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
And you know what kind of safeguards are they thinking
about in legislation, because is just taking it out of
the controls lists and making it a uh, recreational drug
like alcohol.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I don't know if that that's gonna work, you know, but.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, the prohibition of it, I'm not sure. I also
know that like in California, there's there's some laws and
you know, regulations about how the cash gets deposited and
how we're taxing it and making sure that it's it's
all it's kind of kind of be a free for
all and if you can't tax it, it kind of
like has no benefit to the state.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
It's just kind of.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Like, well, yeah, that's a taxing spence state. Right, that's
a taxing spence state. You are you ran off and
you abandoned California a while ago, right, And uh, and uh,
but you were a long time California guy, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
And I was born and raised there, and you know,
I still have family there and I hope to be
back one day.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
But yeah, I was down in Texas.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
You know, I think you knew this, But I was
working with the American sniper family, Taya and the kids,
and I did that for.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Years and years and years. And then I got.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
An opportunity to by a football team in Czech Republic
in Prague, and I went to do that, and then
was looking to buy a basketball team in India with
Kurt Warner, the former NFL he's the chairman of the league.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
And then I got the opportunity to buy the.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
League of Ukraine, the Football League of Ukraine, sixteen teams.
So we're just waiting to see. I think all eyes
are on Saudi Arabia this week. Not to timestamp this,
but I think tomorrow is the start of the meetings.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
I don't know if Kiev was invited.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
I don't know if if Keev's getting to with ten,
but I think all eyes around Saudi Arabia for the
peace negotiations so it doesn't become another Afghanistan. And then
once that deal struck. Then we can start looking at
doing business in Ukraine. But right now it's a little
too Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I wouldn't go do business or Ukraine today though, right,
I mean that's so yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Now, I was looking at agriculture deals there, but I
you know, one of the things because they have you know,
it's the bread basket of Europe or the world. And
one of the things I said is what if Putin
uses the tactical nuke is that dirt?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
How long does this? Is the dirt going to be
bad for you?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
All the water?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
So these were these were things we've been looking at.
And it's not just me.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I have a whole team of people, but we're looking
at real estate and Palma dem Arca.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
All of the deals are popping up all over the place.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
And you you you've been involved in this agrosoft cattle
stuff for a while, right, I remember, you know, we
talked about some cattle people.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I can't remember what state, friends you.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Will, yeah, yeah, yeah, No.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
So I was a part of a deal called Agra Energy,
and their their concept was to take the methane gas,
the slip stream that comes out of the methane digesters
cattle farms. So the feces that they gets digested in
a methane digester, there's a slip stream that comes out.
You run that into a pyrolysis process and then can

(25:55):
kick out clean diesel fuel and clean jet fuel.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
So and this was all based on carbon credits, state
tax credits. So it's it's very legislation driven investment. And
so yeah, so I was.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Traveling all over the place looking at farms in Wisconsin
and and still to this day, we're still looking at
at the cattle business in Brazil, at sports a lot.
There's one in South Africa we're looking.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
At right now that I love brazil Man. When I
was at AT and T, we had an office in
in Sal Paul, and I used to go there all
the time. My office was in moden b right next
to the Hilton. Yeah, so we had a lot of fun,
especially for Formula one races because you know eighteens.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
He had a team.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
So I used to have to host that and you know,
we would have the CEOs and CFOs for you know,
most of our global companies, most of our global clients,
and we would host the breakfast at the Hilton and
then you know, go up to the heliport up on
the roof and we'd fly them all.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Out to the out to the track.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Because of safety, right yeah, you know, because imagine if
we would have had anybody kidnapped or something, it would
have been a global scandal. So the safest way to
move that many execs would be by helicopter. So we'd
have to fly everybody out through helicopter out to the track,
spend all day at the tracks, bitrow it was. It
was a blast, but I love, I love Brazil. Salt

(27:28):
was awesome. The cashas of bars. Uh, that was where
I went to my first fog with the chaw and
I'll still continue to going there. It's a great place, man.
I love, I love Brazil. I love Sportal.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah, no, it's it's amazing. I fell in love with it,
you know there. Like I said, there's multiple reasons. One
of the reasons is I get to wake up every
morning and check the exchange ring. So, uh, you know,
what is a dollar to the REI And I think,
what a guy here is five to two, five point
two or five point four to one, and now up
to like six point three or six point four to one.

(28:02):
I think it's back down at five point seven to day,
but it's uh so it's cost effective. The people are respectful,
They're like the people I've engaged with now.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I did see a headline earlier today that said you would.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Have to take the homicides from the United States, Canada, Rush, Europe,
Australia put them all together to equal the homicides in Brazil.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I only I've been arrested twice there. It was, yeah,
but for fighting, but it was it was it was
all fine, it was it was all elementary stuff. So
it was fun.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
But you know, I'm here, I'm living here, I'm a gringo,
and I'm doing business here. So I wanted to know
the area and make sure that I wasn't gonna get
in real trouble and make sure I respect respect of
the people in my community which we built in.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
So I'm excited about it.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
So any involvement in the MMA being close to endeavoring
those guys.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, I mean so, you know, because I was living
in Sacramento at the time when it happened and flying
back and forth. So we had Cody Garbrant was one
of our fighters. So Cody and I became really good friends.
He actually go to church with me. And my family.
And you know, I remember going to lunch with Cody

(29:26):
one time and I'm like, Hey, are you gonna beat
this certain guy? I won't say his name, you meant
a certain guy. And He's like, if I don't knock
him out in round one or two or like in
the first round, I'm gonna lose because he's juicing, right.
But yeah, But and then it wound up being true.
The guy got caught.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
It was TJ.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Dylan Shaw to say it.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
So. But you know, you start seeing kind of these
behind the scenes stories of the industry. But my my
mma pass goes way back. I actually Science. Do you
remember this company Science? It was a it was energy
drink company. They're like the first like center of the
ring sponsor for UFC.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah yeah, but are you talking about the original UFC?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, UFC, Yeah, like the Fighting Championship the before before
Dana and the Fertida brothers.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Well, Dana was I was actually with the Fertiga. I
went to the Fertidas.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
I was in Vegas and when the Fertinas were trying
to get their gaming license, I was in court with them.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
I was sitting in the back.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Watching it all.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
But I was falling this very closely, and I would
drive out to Vegas all the time, and the siants
Dana and Russ Pike, the guy that owned Science, they
had a kickback program.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
This is how UFC was started.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
So Dana would would sell Russ the the Center of
the Octagon sponsorship for Science for a million dollars, and
then Dana would give Russ half a million dollars back.
So it was it was this Vegas mentality of like
kind of this underworld.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Then it became mainstream. I actually did the e commerce.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Site for for Science, so I was helping sell and
then in one time they gave me these UFC gave
me these pills, or it was maybe Science. It's actually
Science gave me these pills and they said, if you
want a good workout, take three of these. It's our
brand new workout supplement. So I go work out, I

(31:26):
take three of them. I go to the grocery store
and I pass out and I cracked my head. I
cracked my head open, and I woke up in the
hospital getting my head stapled shut together. So I went
down to Laguna Beach with Russ. I said Russ, what happened?
And he said, uh, oh, we gave you the wrong formula.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
That that was.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
That was actually two pills per one, so you have
took six pills. But those were the early those were
the early days of UFC. It was it was very wild,
wild West on a gun. You know, they've done a
phenomenal job building a new sport. And now I think
what Connor's in the Bare Knuckle League, And and.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Dana really loves his uh power slap.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And that thing is crazy when he talks about it,
he's so emotional about it. So it's for Tia, right, Lorenzo.
They absolutely love the whole power slap and and like
they're saying, it's like, man, we get to do it
all over again, like from zero and uh, and I
can't believe it's got that much audience and and it's dude,
the fans are crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean, have you have you watched that at all? Yeah? No,
I haven't.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
I think I saw a clip by Dana saying something
like the way he found it was by accident.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I forget the guy's name, year or something like that.
They introduced him to it.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
But but yeah, I think it's if he's a guy
like me as an entrepreneur, the excitement of building something
from scratch is he needs that juice. He needs that
excitement to keep him going because he's on top of
the mountain right now.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
With dude he's got I mean, talk about fuck you money.
That guy's got fuck you money, right, I mean he
he gambles like a million dollars every day, which is insane,
you know, And.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
He's got Trump showing up at his events.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
And so let's let's talk politics a little bit. I
know you're not a big fan of the president, or
at least a style. I don't know if you're a
Democrat or Republican. You don't have to say either one,
it doesn't matter. But what do you think about Doge?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
So I'm a far right republican nature, yeah, but I
also I don't know, man, I haven't probably said this
out loud my head.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Hey, you know, the tagline here is truth bombs f
bomb's no bullshit.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
So let's fucking go right. So, you know, if you
can say whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I'll say Trump and Elon make me nervous for the
main reason of chaos, and they were the only choice
by far.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
And let me pose it right there, because it's interesting
that you say that, because they are the master of chaos. Right,
So if any if you've read anything for anybody watching,
and if you've never read any of the books or
audio books or whatever on Elon and how he builds
his business, he's fucking chaotic. Dude's he's the master of chaos. Right,

(34:28):
And so it's Trump, right.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah, So I think you have you have world markets,
you have the public. Everybody's trying to respond to this
unnatural setting of chaos, this environment of chaos. And it
makes me nervous that, you know, things that people thought
were going smooth, they're you know, a little rocky, but
now they're going like this, and it's going to disrupt

(34:54):
so much. And my fear is that the average American.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Is not ready for that amount of chaos.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
I'm used because I deal with it, and I deal
with people yelling and screaming and f bombs and lawsuits
and all the threats and all that.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I don't know if the average American is ready.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
The regular person is not used to being rattled, right,
They're pretty stable. They get up in the morning, they
go to work and do their job, come back, you know,
have dinner with their wife, kids, watch some TV, maybe
go to sleep right and do it all over again.
They're not used to chaos, right, They're not used to
being rattled. They're not used to, like you said, lawsuits

(35:37):
and fuck you's and threats and you know and all
that crap. There's something you used to maybe remind me
of something. Some a guy named Paul Stoltz. I don't
know if you remember him Peak Learning. He's the guy
that created a Q adversity quotient like intellectual quotient. Then
you know, telling somebody last night about it that you know,

(35:58):
I scored really really really high, I like off the charts,
and he like pulled me in, you know, at a
global summit that I was with when I was a tycho,
and he said, hey, you know, your score on this
z a Q test was the highest ever we've ever
seen in the world. You know, we've seen highest scores
like that from you know, very troubled individuals like like

(36:19):
kid soldiers.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
You know, I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
He goes, you know, from my kid soldiers or you know,
rape or abuse abuse victims that have you know, overcome
this and blah blah, I mean, what's up with you?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And I was like, dude, I've never been raped. I'm
not a kid soldier, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
But but you know, but I did uh say it
a howday and express one night, you know, but I said, dude, look,
I've been doing Latin America for fucking you know, thirty years.
You want to talk about chaos and shit like that,
that's adversity, like you were talking about. You know, Hey,
you know you're in Kingston or in New Kingston. You
got to know where fuck where you're going or you're
gonna get fucking killed.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Uh, you're in Boada, You're in Lima, You're in you know, uh,
anywhere in Latin American and and make goal any of
those places. If you go down the wrong street, you know,
somebody can cut you open, right, so we'll shoot you.
So so that's that's you know, that that's being aware
of your surroundings. But I can't remember what the hell

(37:17):
I was talking about and I cut you off. Oh
the chaos. So people are not used to that, But
I think people really welcome what's happening and uncovering all
this waste and fraud, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Agree with that, And I would say this, I am
so impressed with their ability, their energy level.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, for them to grind as hard as they're grinding.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
I mean there you think you think looking at my
socials is like where's Drever at today?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Those guys are ten times worse than me.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I don't know how they're pulled, where the energy is
coming from, but they're always on.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Elon's doing Drop three tonight at a pm Pacific, you know.
And so you start you start seeing these guys Trumps
at Daytona.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
You know, Saudi Arabia is happening tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
So it's how do they have them with this much
energy and and time to do something? I can do
one thing, yeah, okay, they're doing ten things.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
At a high level.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I mean they have obviously have unlimited resources.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
But it takes genius to do that.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
They have energy that seems supernatural, and it also.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Takes genius, right, you know, I think both those guys
are geniuses.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Uh processing power.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, but you're right.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I mean, look, Trump is seventy eight, and look at
the energy he's got. He's got more energy than you know,
eleves four hours a day. Yeah, and he's you know,
he's he never stops. And so you're a Republican. Yeah,
what do you think about the cabinet? Who do you like?
Who do you not like? Who you're worried about? Who's
who's got questions?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Right, I don't know if I don't I don't know
if I have any takes yet. I think.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
I think I like I like Vans and Rubio. I
think I think those guys are working hard. Did I
lose you or are.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
We just going full screen on me?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
We're full screen on you? Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
So so so I like Vans and Rubio. I Rubio
has got a tough job.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
I think Marco, Marco would be the one to keep
my eyes on, you know, on on the heels of
Lincoln that you know, they're giving him a tall task
to unline the Biden you know, the bacle so well.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
And and also he's got to articulate what Trump says
into in the in the language that people understand. Right,
So that's gonna be tough. But yeah, you're right, I mean,
trying to unwind the whole four years of Biden. It's
gonna be tough for Marco, you know. And and and
really impose this this new Trump agenda.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
But we'll see I think, you know, McMahon and education,
I think that's kind of an that's kind of a
nothing burger because I think they're just going to try
to wind wind that down, the rf K Junior thing.
I love change, so I'm supportive of that. I know
there's a lot of people in the medical community on
both sides of that.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I'm not a doctor, so I don't know. I was
one of the biggest conspiracy theorists on the vaccines, and.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
I go, all right, man, and come on, but you
know what, most of those conspiracy theories turned out to
be true, right.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
I was the one saying we should have bombed the
three gorgeous damn because a fentanyl on covid.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
They fucked us.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
So you know, let's end it and get this thing
over with instead of dragging it over you want you
don't want.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Forever wars, That's how you do it.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Right there, the PLC is all down that river fucking
flooded out.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
And don't it.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
From my un sources, they're telling me China once this
is your kind of your drum, your your bomb drop
for me.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
They want to put eight hundred million people in the
Mississippi Valley and the Mississippi Valley mirrors the Yanxi River
in China, so they know how to harvest it, transport it,
things like.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
This, So I think that's that's one to watch.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
They were these are the same people tell me we
got to send actoms to Ukraine. Actoms to put them
on an eight thousand pound truck, drive into the border,
shoot one hundred and sixty miles into into Russia and
that would speed things up.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
And then also dw's direct energy weapons was going to
be one of the next things. So but yeah, the
China and.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
The Yancey River and the Mississippi Valley, putting eight hundred
million people there is kind of their long term plan.
So that's that's one to watch. But I don't think
that's going to happen in this administration. But like I said, COVID,
what they told me is, oh, we're worried about killing
innocent people. Well, I talked to the Senator this week.

(41:47):
They said fentanyl's killing seventy six thousand people per year.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
COVID killed how many people?

Speaker 4 (41:53):
So they can kill our innocent people, but we can't
respond and say, hey, knock it off.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Stop. And you know, there's only one way to do that.
Everybody is a professional liar, especially in China.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, so yeah, oh yeah, we want we want to
do this and diplomatically and then they just do something else.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
So yeah, and you've done plenty of business in China,
you know how they operate. Man, they're full of ship
and their liars and oh you know, they're the worst.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
We had to yell we actually we weren't a meeting
once and he's passed away now.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
But my mentor in soft Powers and it was Jack
Fencer Stock and Fence their stock.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
They lied to us and they were they were slow
playing the contract and and he he yelled at them
so bad. He was like eighty years old. He yelled
at them so bad.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I'm like, Jack, I don't know if we're gonna get
out of here.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I'm like twenty three, twenty four, Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Don't know if I'm gonna be doing naked push ups
and the Beijing le tonight.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Jack, But you got to call right.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
But yeah, they were just they turned out they were
professional liars and they have this long term string.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Thereabout you know anybody in that process.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
So that's great.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Hold on, I think your your your signals, buffering your
signals buffering. Yeah, I think you're back now now you're frozen.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
There he is, he's back, He's back. Okay, we got
him back.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
We got him back, all right. So you know, so
so we talked about that. What do you think about
Cash over at the FBI?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Gosh, I wish I wasn't frozen. I think Cash deserves it.
I think Cash deserves a shot.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
I think cash a shot just even for the Epstein longs.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
But when you talk chaos, there could be the level
of chaos that comes with that.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
So I think I would give Cash a shot.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, hell yeah, I hope he gets infirmed. I think
Radcliffe over at c I A was was sharp. I
think you know, there's a lot of people that love TOLSI.
I'm one of those guys that I'm very suspect about her,
you know, just because I don't know. She was a Democrat, dude,
and you know, I don't know. I guess we're gonna

(44:20):
find I guess we're gonna find out.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Right too early to tell on.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
A lot, but I think you have him a shot.
What is Trump having the ability to have by his
side to execute and the results.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
You you're freezing up, You're freezing up pretty hard, man.
You're freezing up pretty bad. Yeah, can you? Can you
try and reconnect and uh and and see if that works.
We'll go to a commercial break real quick while you
reconnect and and and we'll see on the other side
of the end.

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Speaker 2 (46:06):
All right? Did uh? Did they've come back? There?

Speaker 4 (46:11):
He is?

Speaker 3 (46:13):
We're still slow.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, we're buffering still. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
That's a shame because it was like perfect earlier. Maybe
there's a lot of bandwidth consumption in South Boulo right now. Yeah, Ok, hey,
but I think it works. Let's see. I mean, you know,
you're a little a little, a little shady anyways, so
you know, the audience.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I liked.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
I actually liked the blurred effect.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
But what I.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Was saying is I would give Trump when he wants
to try to do the job he wants to do
and see the results and then edit accordingly.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Hey, Dave, so what what drives you? What motive?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
You You're you're you're a ball of energy yourself. You know,
we see your social media posts every day, walking down
the street talking sometimes very very early at uh at sunrise.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I mean you're out there every day, bro, like NonStop.
You never rest.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I think I think you also have an elon in
Trump syndrome, and you probably sleep four or five hours
a day. Maybe sometimes you don't sleep. I don't know,
because depending on depending on the time of day, sometimes
you're posting at all hours. Right, So you really love
what you do. It's that's very clear. You're very passionate
about your work and and the work that you guys

(47:39):
are doing. Talk to you know, for entrumpreneurs, people that
want to start a business, for younger younger generation that
are thinking about, you know, what they want to do
or their dreams, or they want to start a company.
You've done it all, man, What do you what do
you recommend? What do you suggest? What's your advice to them?

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:58):
So working with government celebrities like the Jackson family, see
as I kind of went in reverse, and I really
I have a community here in South Polo kids.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
You don't talk about it publicly.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Much, but I have a community of kids that I
go feed every few days. Wow, that's what That's what
drives me. I just love helping on my street, in
my community.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
And uh, they were helping them until God calls me
somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Gotcha, mister producer? Did you find the Larry King video? All?

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Let's see, let's put it on Jackson. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
So he was involved with a documentary on Joe Jackson, right,
Michael Jackson's father, So I think.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, yeah, put it on. There you go. King Live.

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an unreleased TV reality show about the Jackson family patriarch.
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Speaker 2 (49:24):
What what's the show all about? Why have we seen it?

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Dave? Well, the show is about Joe and we wanted
to bring balance to what the media is always presented
about Joe.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Get to know who he is. How long you have been
shooting it about here?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
So in two thousand and eight roughly we show him.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Lisa, why haven't we seen it?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Well, you haven't seen it yet because we didn't turn
up the volume on the player. Can this great footage
when we found out that?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
All right? What people knew, but that was that was
pretty cool?

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Man.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
You made Larry King look at him. He's back.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
The bandwidth came back. Yeah, you're back like full four
k U A G man. I don't know what you did.
Maybe it was the Larry King effect, dude. How fucking
awesome was that being on Larry King?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
And that guy was like the boss too when you
were on there. It wasn't like the washed up Larry
King when he was on RT at the end, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
No, you know what to speaking of RT, one of
my first interviews I gave to China was hit RT
in d C. But I wound up going on to
represent Larry King and I put you back on the radio, so,
you know, being that was my first experience with Larry
and you know, that was during the height of the

(50:40):
Michael Jackson death, so it was you know, the phones
were ringing in the you know, they were everybody's trying
to get tickets to the to the funeral at Staples Center,
and it was just it was.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
A wild time.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
And we had owned we owned like a forty hour
library of footage and so ABC had gotten some of
that and there was big drama around that.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
It was it was a very.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Fascinating time for me to live through, just because Michael
was such a big star and then here I am
on the largest international broadcast and.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
I'll know it will. It changed my life forever, just
to see the power of media, the power of entertainment.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
I remember landing in uh an Lax Airport and people
were like on the ground crying. They're wearing white gloves
like Michael wore. He was just such an icon so
to be around the family at that time. Jafar, who's
in our show Ja'far is now going to replay Michael
and the new biopics.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
So you you.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Guys did a documentary right or a series or reality series?
What did it end up being? I forgot to ask
and how did you get involved in that?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Did it air? And where.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Air? ABC?

Speaker 4 (51:58):
And we got involved in it through uh the security team.
We knew the security guards and this was before Michael
announced he was going back on the tour with AG
so there was nothing really going on with the Jackson's
at the time, and they said, hey, we think you
should follow the family and so we'd go to Havenhurst

(52:19):
and we filmed in the bedroom and we filmed Joe
and Catherine and all the grandkids and we just started
collecting footage with no.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Idea Michael was going back on tour and with.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
No idea that he was going to pass away. So
when he died, we just had all this footage and
then we still haven't released it yet.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Day.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Yeah, we got into bidding awards with multiple networks and
we got side doored by one of the brothers and
it kind of paused it. And so we've just been waiting.
We've been sitting on it, and one day I think
we'll release it.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
So that's amazing, dude, that is a gem right there
that you're holding on too many.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
That's got to be a multi million dollar ticket that
you're holding, easy, easy.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
And I you know, every time you know, something significant
happens with the family, there's always calls going like.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Hey, you guys want to sell it as Joe died,
do you want to sell it or you know, whatever
it is.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
So I think at the right time, whatever God has
for that, it will, it will be aired. And like
I said, it's forty hours, it's got to be one of,
if not the largest library of footage.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Hey, So you've also you've also produced shows or documentaries
that have been on on Prime, on Netflix, on on
other platforms. All right, talk to us about that. How
did how did you How did you make that happen?

Speaker 2 (53:41):
How did that?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I mean, how easy or how hearted is it to
get something on Prime or Netflix?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I would assume impossible?

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Right, Very hard. Yeah, it's very hard.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
It's increasingly hard because there's a lot of people that
will debt finance project so and then and then they
go to Netflix or Prime and expect like they may
like overproduce and spend four million dollars to produce a
movie and then go to Netflix and go, oh, they're
easily going to pay me ten million dollars because it's

(54:14):
so great. And Netflix is like two hundred and fifty
yrand it's okay. So a lot of projects just from
the beginning get upside down. So if you don't have
like a distribution commitment from the beginning, it's like almost
ridiculous to spend money on production. Otherwise you wind up
with a really expensive hard drive.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
But I've been able to mount a few projects. You know.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
One of the first projects I did in Hollywood was
the first Netflix original, and then I just did a
Netflix original recently within the last few years, and about
my client Amberley Snyder and Amberley was paralyzed barrel racer
and Rodeo that's called the Walk Ride Road. So I
negotiated that deal directly with the lawyers in Netflix and

(55:07):
and did a good.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Job for Ambly on that. So but I put this
stuff on Prime quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
I've actually been looking at setting up my own distribution company.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
It would be with Amazon Prime.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
So well, we got to talk, man, We got to
talk because there's, uh, there's something out there that that
I think is right up your alley and we can
definitely use your help with.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
So yeah, yeah, broker brokering content distribution is easier like
owning a distribution company. There's there's it's way more work
than anybody knows because of all the territories and the
cost captioning and the rights and the chain of title
and the insurance and the it's the list they give

(55:50):
you of deliverables is you know, take you a week
to deliver something.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
So but yeah, I'm happy. I'm happy to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Man.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I'll definitely reach out to you after, you know, after
the show and we can talk about it. I think
you're I think lovely the concept and the idea. I
know you will. It's right up your alley too, So
you know, we'll talk about it. But dude, it's been
a pleasure man having you. Uh, we've been all over

(56:22):
the map. You have so much information. We haven't even
scratched a surface. Hopefully you'll come back and and and
keep us posted on your adventures. And where can people
follow you? Where can they wake up and get those
motivational videos from Dreaver at four o'clock in the morning
with the sunrise and South Paulo or wherever in the

(56:42):
world he is.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
So my Instagram is the best place to follow me
Underscore at or at Underscore, Dreeve, my emails, davit freely
dot com. But I would say Instagram is probably if
you want those global early morning video it would be Instagram,
that's that's my or or WhatsApp two one three two

(57:05):
six four four seven nine four.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
That would that would you can find me? I'm not
hard to find.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
I always kind of joke about it because if somebody
wants to get me, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Literally, you get him the address, bro, you give him
the address where you are.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I mean, I'm saying on the corner of so and so.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I was like, dude, somebody's gonna pick up.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
This last Tuesday and I saw time released it, so
now I'm in a whole different country.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
There you go, a whole different times. So absolutely, Hey dude,
it's been a pleasure. Man, I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Man.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Well, well, I'll reach out to you afterwards. All right, perfect, awesome,
thanks Bud. Alright, all right, take care, all right, guys,
Hope hopefully you guys had a good time with Dreever.
The guys, Uh, jeez, I mean he's been everywhere, done everything,
accomplished so much. He was the original recipient of funding

(57:58):
from the founders for fund Peter Theo those guys. That's
that's an amazing story. Been on Larry King Live. He's
you know, one of his partners is Endeavor, the largest
entertainment company in.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
The world, travels around the world.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
He's uh, and he's a regular guy. Man, He's just
a regular guy with so much success. Like you said,
he's put out so many things on Netflix, on Prime.
He's done it all, man, He's done it all, and
especially in business now Ton Agro and man, we're gonna
have him back. He's got so much to talk about.
Hopefully you guys enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Follow him.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
I'm not kidding when I say that his videos on
Instagram are they're a lot of fun. Uh, you can
just earmark that or get notifications when he pops them in.
And and if it doesn't put a smile on your face,
it'll make you laugh or you know what, or it'll
it'll pick you up, you know, because he he throws
in a lot of motivation stuff in there as well.

(58:52):
So anyways, guys, tomorrow, do not miss tomorrow. We have
the amazing Sarah Carter. Uh, she's gonna join us tomorrow.
As you guys know, she's a contributor on Fox for
a long long time. She also has her own podcast
and radio show, The Sarah Carter Show former Breitbart right,

(59:13):
she's one of the first reporting from the border.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
We're gonna talk to her about.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
That and the job that Holman's doing, and she's gonna
share a lot of shit. So do not miss it.
Remember you can find us on Rumble, Spotify, Apple, Screecher, Stitcher, Bandora,
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(59:38):
watch us.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
We'll see you tomorrow. Guys. Take care