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March 19, 2025 85 mins

In this episode of Ignite Podcast, host Brian Bell welcomes Simon Wu, a partner at Cathay Innovation, a global venture capital firm managing billions in assets. Simon shares his journey from his early days building computers as a teenager to working in M&A at VMware and UBS before transitioning into venture capital. He reflects on how his background shaped his investment philosophy and discusses the unique approach Cathay Innovation takes in working with startups globally. With a strong focus on fintech, digital healthcare, and consumer investments, Simon provides insights into how the venture landscape has evolved, particularly in the wake of the 2021 funding boom and the current AI-driven innovation wave.


The conversation dives into Cathay Innovation's global investment strategy, highlighting their ability to leverage corporate LPs across various industries, including retail, pharma, and finance, to provide startups with strategic partnerships beyond just capital. Simon explains how their geographic funds in Africa, LatAm, and other regions serve as feeders to their main fund, allowing them to identify promising companies early and scale them through their global network. He also touches on the challenges of securing deals in a highly competitive VC landscape and the importance of understanding founder dynamics when making investment decisions.


As the discussion shifts to the current state of venture capital, Simon and Brian explore the impact of AI on startup formation and investment trends. They discuss how the barriers to software development and distribution are dropping, leading to an explosion of new startups in niche verticals. Simon shares insights into the rapid fundraising cycles of AI companies, the shift in growth expectations, and the increasing importance of distribution over pure technological moats. The conversation also covers venture capital’s evolving secondary market, the challenges of timing exits, and how funds should approach portfolio management in today’s dynamic environment.


Closing out the episode, Simon offers advice on fund strategy and LP relations, particularly for emerging managers looking to scale their funds. He emphasizes the importance of building strong relationships with institutional LPs, understanding their risk profiles, and ensuring clear differentiation in an increasingly crowded VC market. With deep insights into venture capital cycles, global investment strategies, and the role of AI in shaping the next wave of innovation, this episode is a must-listen for founders and investors alike.


Chapters:

Welcome & Guest Introduction (00:00 – 00:40)

Simon Wu’s Background & Path to Venture Capital (00:41 – 02:15)

From M&A to VC: Lessons from Corporate Development (02:16 – 04:25)

Early Days at Cathay Innovation & Building a Global Firm (04:26 – 07:09)

The Role of Corporate LPs in Venture Capital (07:10 – 09:46)

Investment Strategy: Sectors & Geographic Focus (09:47 – 12:37)

Scaling Startups: Key Challenges from Series A to Growth (12:38 – 16:57)

AI’s Impact on Venture Capital & Startup Moats (16:58 – 21:26)

The Market Cycle Shift & The Return of Fintech (21:27 – 25:41)

Evaluating Growth Startups & The Importance of Distribution (25:42 – 28:25)

How Secondary Sales Help Funds Manage Risk (28:26 – 32:11)

Lessons from Managing a $2.5B Venture Portfolio (32:12 – 35:54)

Fundraising & LP Strategy for Growth-Stage Firms (35:55 – 40:21)

Navigating Competitive Deals & Winning Founder Trust (40:22 – 44:23)

The Future of AI, Venture, and the Startup Ecosystem (44:24 – 50:15)

Final Thoughts & Advice for Founders & Investors (50:16 – 51:25)

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