January 16, 2025 • 39 mins
Kyle Goodknight delves into the crucial connection between gut health and the entrepreneurial journey with guest Dale L'Ecuyer. Dale shares her expertise in network marketing and health and wellness, focusing on the gut-brain axis's role in mental wellness. The discussion highlights the importance of probiotics, understanding gut dysbiosis, and recognizing compromised gut health signs. Dale offers strategies with Amari Global, while Kyle provides insights on mental health from a first responder perspective. They explore the science behind gut health, starting protocols, and community support. The episode concludes with resources on gut health, the impact of diet and probiotics on cravings, and gratitude to Dale.
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When they think of gut health, they think ofdigestive health.
I mean, and they or they think of immunesystem.
Like, I was aware that, 80% of our immune cellsare in the gut.
The gut controls the brain.
Welcome back to the Ignition Path Podcast.
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I'm your host, Kyle Goodnight.
And before we get to our amazing guest, I justwanna make sure that you like, subscribe, and
share as you're listening to this and, theinformation that's gonna be flowing from both
of our mouths.
If something resonates with you, please, pleasedon't hesitate to leave a comment, ask us
questions, get a hold of both myself and myguests.
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So from that, I'm gonna introduce you to myamazing, guest today who is Dale loss Lacey
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Lacher.
Right?
Lacher.
Liqueur.
Dale Liqueur.
I had problems with that the first time we met,and so that's just I have problems with, with
pronunciation of of names that I don't hearvery often.
You should hear see your hair.
I butcher people's names when I'm in the backof the medic.
So oh, well.
It it you know, I digress.
So, Dale Lecure is is my guest today.
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She is Amari Global, has is a representative ofAmari Global, has an amaze has several amazing,
communities that I've actually been a part of.
And I think we got introduced, by Michelle,someone that I was in a networking event for.
And she introduced me to about, I don't know,1800 people in, like, a 3 minute period.
It was crazy.
But she was awesome.
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We had our first call, and, we found thatthere's a lot of stuff that Dale and I, want to
help people with and get out to the world.
And, of course, Ignition Path podcast is allabout, talking about Dale's path, and then
we'll go into her business a little bit later.
But tell us, who you are, Dale, and what youdo, where you came from, how you became an
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entrepreneur, what you did prior to that, andall that good stuff.
Alright.
Well, thank you, Kyle.
I appreciate you having me and giving me theopportunity to share my passion and what I will
do to the day I leave the planet, I always say.
So I've been, in the past, a mom basically.
I have 5 kids, I have 4 grandbabies.
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I was pretty much a stay at home mom.
I would work on the weekends in catering andwhatnot in between babies.
But really my, my heart was to not have toreport to someone.
I always wanted to be my own boss.
So it was about, oh boy, I can't re I think itwas, it was like 16 years ago.
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I found myself at my job in the, on the weekendand me and my boss didn't get along so great.
So there was this one incident where heactually, actually, you know, threw a $5 bill
at me.
I was like What?
What does that even mean?
That was kind of the straw that broke thecamel's back.
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Through a I can't even imagine what was behindthat.
Only 1 of them.
I mean, I was working in a catering hall.
They didn't want us to like put tip money out,blah, blah.
Yeah.
So anyway, I remember, like, it was so clear,like it was yesterday.
I ran around the back of the building.
I called my husband.
I was like, I am so done with this.
Like, and I had just been introduced to theindustry of network marketing.
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And I was like, I can't do this anymore.
And I wanted to be home.
I missed everything.
I was always working every single weekend,especially in that industry.
So my husband was like, go for it.
You know?
And so, like I said, I was had just beenintroduced to the industry actually by my
chiropractor.
I've always been into health and wellness andhe was, you know, promoting this health and
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wellness cleansing product at the time.
I got had phenomenal results and I decided I'mgoing to do this.
Like I've always been passionate about healthand wellness.
Kind of to go back a little bit in my story,but I think it's interesting.
When I was 10 years old, my dad was diagnosedwith cancer.
He was given a year to live.
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My at the time, you know, I'm, I'm the youngestof 7 and my mother never worked.
So it was quite devastating.
But my dad sought out alternative treatmentsand he ended up finding a doctor who was doing
alternative stuff, actually in the upstate NewYork area.
And he got on the protocol and lived another 40years.
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So at that point, I was 10 years old and itmade a huge impact on me.
And so I always raised my kids, like, allholistic.
I used acupuncture and chiropractors andsupplements and all of the things.
You know, I guess you could call me a crunchymom, but I've always really believed in in
that.
I believe in nature.
I believe in our body's ability to heal itself.
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And so I was really, really excited about theindustry and the opportunity to not only share
what I love health and wellness, but to also beable to make income from home.
And the network marketing industry is anincredible industry for that.
In fact, like the 2% of women that earn 6figures do it in this industry.
Wow.
Yeah.
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So it's, it's pretty incredible industry.
Yeah.
I've been a I've been a part of it sprinkledout through my whole entire adult life.
I've, you know, my mom and dad, they were partof the Amway days.
I mean, I I got it.
I got it.
I got into my entrepreneurialism,entrepreneurialism, very honestly because of
mom and dad.
They were they, they were they had AM Way.
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They did a couple other things, you know, I andI was a kid during then, so I didn't really get
it.
But I guess once I got to be a teenager, Iremember my dad being a part of a group.
I think it was called Initech or something, butit had all these big, huge, big name speakers
coming into Columbus, and I was got I got to goto the airport and drive them to the convention
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center and be kinda like a help behind thescenes helper.
So it all came very natural to me.
It never felt weird to me to be a part of someform of network marketing throughout my whole
life.
My wife and I sold Scentsy for for many years.
We've done doTERRA.
Like, we've done those things that thatinterest us and never really did a bunch of,
like, pounding the pavement at it.
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We just kinda did it very for our purposes.
And then if when people asked us about it, wewould we would, you know, share the
information.
We never did a lot of crazy stuff.
But 100%, both of us believe in chiropractory.
You know, I wouldn't call myself well, what didyou call yourself?
The the crunchy mom?
I wouldn't call myself a crunchy dad, but, youknow, I remember I remember my mom and dad
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being more health conscious, and my wife and Iare very health conscious.
Doesn't mean that we don't eat like crap attimes, but but, we do our best to try to be as
healthy as possible.
You know, supplements is probably the one areathat we both, she's getting better at them,
for, obvious reasons that we've spoke of in thein the past because of our age, but, her and
I's age.
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And, but I've never really been one to do muchon supplements.
I don't know why, but, you know, I'm alwaysopen to hear more about the different things
that are out there.
And, but yeah.
So I I come it comes that's another reason whyyou and I get along real well is we both come
from some of the same background and understandeach other's world a little bit.
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Yeah.
The industry has changed a lot.
It really has.
I mean, it I think people unfortunately have animage of like that hard sell, that push, push,
push, you know, and we really, and there, Iguess there are some network marketers that
still do that, but I feel like we're more aboutsharing value, and sharing information and
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being educators.
I mean, that's how I see it.
I mean, it's just such important information.
Like I said, I'll do this till the day I leavethe planet.
So I was with another company for 10 yearsprior to being with Omari.
Okay.
And I was at a marketing conference to learnhow to build more online.
And I met a woman there who was, had just leftanother company to join with the mental
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wellness company, Amari, you know, which hadjust launched.
And when I heard about it, I was like themental wellness company, tell me more.
And so I was hounding her at the conference.
I was like, you gotta tell me more about thisbecause at the time my daughter was struggling.
She was having panic attacks.
She was really, really depressed.
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She was just full of anxiety.
She was in college and things went crazy.
Right.
So I was just blown away by the informationthat she was giving me.
I was like, I've never heard of this before.
Yeah.
In the industry, my whole life, Never heard ofmental wellness and the gut brain access.
Like, what the heck is this?
So I just like went all in, just learn andlearn and learn, and actually went out to meet
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the company.
And I ended up like hearing other stories,listening to the, you know, the formulator,
like just learning.
And I was just like, wow, this feels more likean op more of a responsibility to me to share
this information.
And I ended up, leaving my other company, andjust jumping in with this brand new company,
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which was over 6 years ago now.
Right.
Right.
Well, and so much more information is so easyto gather compared to back in the day.
You know?
And and I say back in the day, I know I lookyoung and Sprite, but I'm, you know, I'm I'm
52.
I mean, I remember I remember no Internet.
I remember phones on the wall.
I don't you know, I I've lived through that.
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I'm sure there's a name.
I mean, I know they they call us Gen x for me.
But, you know, that we live through all ofthat.
We remember the the clicker that you actuallythe reason why the TV changed is because it was
a loud click and not because of a a radiosignal.
So, like, I remember all that stuff and andit's just so much different.
Like, the information now that we can get onmultiple different areas of not only our mental
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health, but our mental wellness, our selfwellness, our self awareness, you know, you
know, medical alternative medical thoughts andalternative and and studies and, like, used to
have to go to a library to pull up an articleto read a study about the statins, and now you
can you can go to a YouTube channel or awebpage and read the entire study about what
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they found about statins and and whatnot.
So, you know, it's just one of those thingswhere I think part of it is we are living in a
world that is so much more information, andsometimes that can be a little too much too.
You know?
Like, wow.
Which one do I choose?
So, you know, you mentioned you you kindasprinkled it in there and it was actually where
I wanna take this conversation for now is thethe gut health.
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That's one thing that I feel that myself and somany people, even though I know it's important,
I've never I don't know what the what thereason is.
I haven't had the dire, oh my gosh, I've gottado this for myself need to understand what that
means.
So talk a little bit more about, you know, whatit is to be gut healthy, why it's important,
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and then we'll go from there.
Great.
Yeah.
I think, you're right in that people don't whenthey think of gut health, they think of
digestive health.
Mhmm.
I mean and they or they think of immune system.
Like, I was aware that, 80% of our immune cellsare in the gut, but I was not aware that the
gut controls the brain.
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So it's, it's just fascinating.
So for example, 90% of serotonin, which is ourfeel good neurotransmitter is created in the
gut.
70% of dopamine, which is anotherneurotransmitter that helps us to feel
motivated is also created in the gut.
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And there's many others, hormones as well.
So it just makes sense that if the gut is notgetting what it needs, it's not able to produce
those neurotransmitters.
So for example, if someone is consuming a tonof sugar, it that will create a lot of bad
bacteria in the gut.
So you're not going to produce those othersignals.
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You're going to produce sugar, which is veryaddictive.
You what your body is saying, give me more,give me more.
It's like, the signal is give me more.
Yeah.
And I think I think sugar is either number 1 or2 right behind caffeine of the most addictive
product out there.
So I don't wanna call it a drug, but, I mean,it's essentially what it is.
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Right.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it's just the gut is just way more.
It it it rules our entire body, you know, ourour physical wellness and our emotional
wellness.
So that's why, you know, with my daughter, whenshe got on the protocol, it was like this light
bulb went off, you know, and all of a suddenshe was like, I feel really different.
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Like, within a few days, but then the rollercoaster ride started just to be upfront here.
It wasn't a straight, I feel great now.
It was, I feel great.
Oh, crap.
I don't feel great.
Like it was like a roller coaster ride.
And then I went and met and listened to theformulator, went to see him do a presentation.
I was like, what is going on with my daughter?
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Like, why is she having ups and downs duringthis rebuilding of the gut?
And he was like, because she's having like,basically like the peeling of an onion was it's
kind of like an emotional detox in a sense.
So it sounds really, really crazy and kind oflike out there.
But she said to me, my daughter, when I thinkabout because she had some PTSD as well.
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And she said to me, when I think of whathappened to me, I don't feel the same.
It was like, it's like, woah, that is so likethat just proved to me that
Like it just packaged, it's packageddifferently or something.
Yeah.
You know, like our bodies hold on to
The trauma.
Yes.
And trauma.
Yep.
Separate the body and the mind.
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Right.
So it was just a clear signal to me.
And then in our group that I would, you know,that I mentioned to you and you have seen,
you'll see a lot of stories like that.
Like especially moms that had like postpartumrage or, you know, people with PTSD and just
all sorts of imbalances that not necessarilyshow themselves in terms of like a digestive
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imbalance.
Although we put that in there as well, but willshow up in, you know, just different emotional
imbalances or dysregulation.
Right.
So it's, it's just fascinating to me.
I mean, I learn more and more.
I've got certified as a, mental wellness coach.
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So I studied, you know, for, with Mariettacollege and our formulator.
So I'm learning more.
I mean, it's just endless the informationthat's coming forth in terms of, you know, the
gut microbiome and what it, how important itis.
Important.
It is when, what something you mentioned, earlyon when it comes to gut health and how people
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think of it as being digestive health.
And then you see products that are out therelike a probiotic, and they're like, oh, easier
I digest.
And so then you just so some of the marketingalready puts people in the thought process that
that gut health means digestive health.
So when it comes to, like, a probiotic, youknow, my wife's always on me.
Here, take a probiotic.
Like, I I was I was a little under the weatherover the weekend.
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I think I had some bad coleslaw from arestaurant because everybody else was fine.
I'm the only one that ate the coleslaw, and Ispent 24 plus hours not feeling well.
And we won't go into detail as we all you know,everybody every you know, as long as you, you I
I always live by this this rule that somebodytold me way back when in the hospital when all
of a sudden the conversation seemed to turn to,you know, poop.
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Every as long eventually, every conversationturns to poop.
But, I digress on that, but I didn't feel greatfor a while.
And she's like, here, have a probiotic.
I'm like, what's one probiotic gonna do?
And in general, talk about, like, a probioticand what that does for you and and the the I
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don't know.
This what I feel, one probiotic in the middleof a sickness is like spitting into a
hurricane, in my opinion.
But I took it nonetheless because at the time,I don't care.
I wanna feel better.
So talk about probiotics compared to, like, guthealth and what role they play, if any.
Okay.
So that is probiotics is, like, you see iteverywhere now.
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Right?
You see it everywhere.
And like you
said It's in yeah.
It's in yogurt.
Yeah.
A probiotics and yogurt.
Yeah.
I mean, we all know that yogurt has goodcultures, blah, blah, blah.
So so probiotics, that's what our productscontain, but the difference is there are many,
many strains and species of probiotics.
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Okay.
So there are probiotics that are specific fordigestive health.
So the goal and what makes a happy gut is tohave a diversity of different strains and
species of probiotics.
So probiotics, you can't you don't just go to astore and pick out a probiotic.
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You need to know what you're looking for thatprobiotic to do in the body.
So the strains and species that we use in themental wellness company have been clinically
studied to target mental wellness.
So, you know, study to decrease anxiety, toincrease, you know, serotonin, to decrease,
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cortisol, you know, so there are specific onesthat do specific things and our bodies need a
lot of different ones.
So that's the idea is to get a diverse plane,in, you know, in your gut.
Right.
Right.
So, so a question that I did not answer thatyou asked me, I apologize.
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No worries.
Was was, you know, what creates this dysbiosisor imbalance in the gut?
So so basically like high stress levels willput your body into a very, very high state of
cortisol, like too much cortisol, like fight orflight state.
When you're in that state, your body produces alot of the bad bacteria, and it will not
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produce a lot of serotonin.
So the cortisol is like fighting for you,fighting to, to produce the serotonin.
You know what I'm saying?
So you can't have really high stress levels andproduce a lot of serotonin.
So what our products do will lower thatcortisol level, which will then increase more
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serotonin.
Does that make sense?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I mean, it balanced.
I mean, once again, it's a gut balance.
So Right.
Like high stress levels, like medications, likeantibiotics that are destroying not only the
bad bacteria, but the good bacteria.
So that's why they say take a probiotic afteryou've taken an antibiotic.
You want to,
oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I knew that.
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I knew.
I knew like we, my daughter got real sick whenshe was younger and she was on some heavy
antibiotics.
They thought she had thought she was septic andhad blood, blood infection.
It ended up being something different, but theyflooded her with all these antibiotics.
And, of course, 30 days later, she had she hadthe, the issue of stripping all of her, you
know, all of the the the gut biome away, whichcaused its own problems with how they make you
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get on a different antibiotic to try to buildthat back.
So, Yeah.
So I I do, you know, my my wife and I are bothmedicals.
We have some knowledge of that kind of stuff ingeneral, and the stuff that does that.
Now when it comes to, gut health and the biome,you know, what are some common signs or
symptoms that that one may be able to, to beable to do a self assessment to see if they're
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compromised?
I mean, most likely nobody's gut health is justautomatically good unless you're focused on it.
But what are some signs of when you need to dosomething about it?
And some Yeah.
That's a great question.
So, many things are a sign of gut dysbiosis.
Some of which will be very you know, probablyyou'll be surprised to hear.
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Skin issues are definitely a sign of gutdysbiosis.
Allergy Like like eczema?
Yes.
Eczema, any kind of skin issue.
I've never had eczema in my life.
Eczema is a big one.
I've just I don't know why they're but I'mlike, that looks like eczema.
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That's not a scratch or like, I wear abracelet.
Yeah.
But that didn't scrape that.
I'm like, what is going on?
Anything that's on the skin is a reflection ofwhat's going on on the inside.
Gotcha.
So skin is a huge one.
Allergies is another one.
Huge.
So many people.
It's it's basically like the gut is out ofbalance.
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The immune system is on hyper alert, which isnot it's not supposed to be that way.
So that's also autoimmune.
Like when the when the body's on like hyper
Right.
Hypersensitive.
That shows us that's a sign of gut dysbiosis,not sleeping well, anxiety, depression.
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Yeah.
This just it really everything and that andthat's the thing what's so fascinating when you
go in the group, you see like all thesedifferent things like
Oh, yeah.
And it's like, this is all the same protocol.
Like, it's all going back to the root cause.
Right.
It's the gut, which I'm all about.
Get to the root cause.
Yeah.
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And that'll be very interesting.
I cannot wait to, you know, before we hitrecord, you mentioned that there's someone that
I introduce you to that you're going to bemeeting with later today.
Matter of fact, matter of fact, because hehelped me tremendously.
I I purchased his program.
He's my sponsor now.
I have an affiliate sponsorship with him for myshow, and he focuses on, you know, anxiety,
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procrastination, self, you know, you know, thatif you don't feel like you're good enough,
people pleasing.
Like, he focuses on that through, I don't it'snot through nutrition, but I know he doesn't
think nutrition isn't an important you know, Iknow he feels that's important, but that's not
his major role with it.
So it'll be very interesting for the 2 of you.
And that's why I got the 2 of you togetherbecause I really think that the 2 of you could
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have some sort of super pack when it comes tookay.
You've got the nutrition side of it and guthealth side of it, and he's got the other side
of it that you have to do some work inside ofyour own thought processes and some of your own
understanding of where you come from and whereyou came from and how you address those old
thoughts and feelings.
And so it'll be very interesting to hear howyou guys, come up with, with, you know, how you
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can help each other out.
But with that being said, once I I did say thathe's my sponsor, I'm gonna go ahead and break
to him, the commercial that I've made for himfor for this session.
Then we're gonna come back, and, I've got acouple other questions for you, and we'll go
from there.
So we're right now, we'll hear from my sponsor.
Let me ask you a question.
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It's those oh so familiar struggles.
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I call the big a, anxiety.
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Okay.
And we're back with Dale Lecure.
Once again, Dale Daniel Packard is an amazinggentleman.
He's helped me so much, with with everythingthat his program does.
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Don't hesitate to give him a call.
Get that free 90 minute session from him.
It could be life changing for you.
And, of course, you know, that may be somethingthat that Dale and him can come up with later
here.
And it's like it's like it's kinda weird thatthe the crossroads are now coming in one
episode.
But nonetheless, we're back with Dale LaCureand, talking about, Amari Global and and gut
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health and how important it is.
And I did have another question about guthealth that I wanted to make sure I asked.
Can I just respond to, David Packard?
Absolutely.
Really looking forward to meeting him, but Ialways say, you know, it's never one thing.
Right.
But that's a huge that's I'm glad you saidthat.
Yeah.
I agree.
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I agree.
I mean, you can't just, you know, takesupplements and
Think that everything is fine.
Yep.
Right.
Yeah.
And But what I love about starting with, youknow, protocol is that we'll give you the
strength and the stress resilience to do thedeeper work.
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And that's what we see.
And that's what exactly what happened.
Yeah.
And there is some deep yeah.
With his program, there's definitely some deepwork, but if you're not feeling I mean, there
were times when, and he does address it inthere.
I know that one point in time, he's like, youknow what?
If you don't do a couple of things that you'resupposed to do on a daily basis, just get back
into it.
Don't don't beat yourself up.
Just just jump back in, you know, and that kindof thing.
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So that roller coaster that you're talkingabout.
Anytime you're trying to transform yourself Imean and I face this with some mental health
issues from my first responder days.
Not days.
I'm still a first responder.
My first responder mental health crisis that Ifaced is, yes, the day that I felt as low as I
felt ever, I got help.
I raised my hand, never been shy about it.
I'm like, I need to talk to my mentor.
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I don't know what's going on.
I don't feel like I'm gonna hurt myself, but Idon't feel right, so let me let me reach out to
them.
That through that conversation was a very biglow that at the end of the conversation was,
okay, there's hope.
And then I got ahold of the people that shesuggests I get ahold of.
But between that period of time, there wasanother dip, and then I got help.
And then there's you know, and then as you it'salmost like this this wave that comes up and up
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and up until you get to the point where you'relike, okay.
I'm I'm actually dealing with things better.
I actually can deal with this situation again.
I actually understand it better now.
I understand the reason why it affected me.
That's another thing that a professional thatcan help you sort through things that are
bugging you and things that are that aremessing with you.
You can they can help you find the root cause.
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And when I found my root cause, it was a gamechanger.
I see it because everybody everybody knows whatmy trigger is now.
Carbon monoxide poisoning is a trigger for myand I run on carbon monoxide, people.
I do, and I will in my career.
The next time I have one, I don't know how it'sgonna affect me.
I think I know it's gonna how it's gonna affectme.
I'm going to feel horrible about it, but I'mnot gonna have that deep low.
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I'm gonna be able to understand why I feelhorrible about it, and it was all stemmed on
something that happened to a friend of minewhen I was a child that scarred me for life
that I didn't even know scarred me.
It was subconscious.
And it and that's the kind of thing.
Like like, if you can focus on the gut and getthat in balance, then if that has the serotonin
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levels to level things out, it makes so muchsense because all that stuff you're talking
about is real.
Like, that is not that that is not voodoomedicine or, like, you call the crunchy med
like, you're not the crunchy mom when you say,well, hold on a second.
Serotonin and, you know, and cortisol and yourand other things that affect your mood and
affect your heart rate and affect yourwell-being.
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Like, we know darn well that breath work canhelp you regulate your your heartbeat because
it's science.
That stuff is science that you're now usingyou're using, you know, you know, probiotics of
whatever genre to help level that out.
All that stuff is science, and it can beproven.
Yeah.
The body does keep the score.
If you've never read the book, people that arelistening, you've never read the book, the body
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keeps score.
Read that book because that but that is thetruth.
And when you said something earlier that thatthe body remembers, it made me think of that
book, and and it keeps the score.
And if you're not if you don't have your wholebody in check, you know, it's gonna remember.
And even when your brain doesn't until it'stime.
Right.
Right.
I mean, you just can't deny the physiologicalpiece of it.
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And if you're in a better state of health, youknow, your nutrition is on point.
Your sleep is on point.
You got your, your gut stuff working better.
Like, you're just going to be more inclined to,to have the resilience to deal with going deep.
Right.
And and finding those pieces that you need toheal on Yeah.
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You know, and now you're aware.
Right?
That's where it starts.
You gotta be aware of it.
So sounds like, you know, he's gonna he doesthat work where he's identifying.
This is where this this is when this eventhappened that's triggering you.
So that that is just
Good to know.
So Yeah.
Part of it.
Yeah.
That's good work.
Yep.
Yep.
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And that's, you know and and luckily, I knewsaw a lot of that stuff going in, but I didn't
know how to organize it, you know, and that'swhat helped me was the organization of that.
When it comes to, like, let's say someone'slistening to this and they're like, man, you
know, it makes sense, this gut health thing.
I've heard about it before, and there's aprotocol out there because I don't know where
to turn to.
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Like, tell tell us how someone were to getstarted to start either one, learning the right
things.
Don't not just go into TikTok and finding guthealth videos.
Don't get me wrong.
I know darn well because you've you've turnedme on to a couple of your, your group members
that run amazing TikToks, and they've got goodinformation.
But when it comes to try how do they how doessomeone that wants to start diving into this,
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what is you what is your suggestion for theirfirst start?
Like, a 1 on 1 with you or go look this or goread this book.
Like like, something that is that would wheredo you tell people to get started?
So I love to do 1 on ones, but I feel like Ikind of have to build the trust first in order
for people to want to do that.
And I think that people need to hear and seeother stories, like other, you know,
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experiences that people have had when they'vegotten their gut back and balanced with our
protocols.
So I like to invite people into our communityon Facebook.
I think there's, like, almost 60,000 people inthere, which goes to show me that people are
looking for natural solutions.
They're looking for ways to feel betteremotionally.
I mean, it goes without saying there's a lot ofstress, unfortunately, in this world right now.
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But and we have to just keep ourselves strongto be able to deal with it.
Right?
So I like to invite people into the community.
I'll tag them in a few of the posts thatregard, you know, that have to do with kind of
the, what they're looking for or what they'reexperiencing.
And then I love to just hop on a zoom and justbe like, Hey, tell me more.
Like, what are your top priorities right now?
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Because you gotta start somewhere.
And then I'll recommend a protocol and we getgoing.
I keep in touch with everybody.
And that's how we do it.
Great.
Great.
And where do they find that out?
Like, where do they find that community?
Is it a is it a is it closed or is it public ordo they have to answer questions like
Closed.
It's a private group because people are sharingtheir, you know, their ability and their
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intimate stories.
So I would invite you invite them in
once.
Okay.
So it's not somewhere.
If I, if I put a link to the Facebook groupthat that doesn't automatically get them in
there, can they at least, if so, like what'sthe best way for someone to start the process
of getting into that group to hear the stories?
Right.
So the best way would be to reach out to me inmessenger.
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And then I would send, you know, we wouldconnect friend requests kind of thing, and then
I can invite them into the community.
Okay.
Great.
Great.
Alright.
Real quick, if there's anything else that youwanna share with us that's coming up for you, I
was you know, the Ignition Path podcast is notonly to hear about your your path through
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entrepreneurialism, entrepreneurialism, but Iand your business right now, but to talk about
what's coming up so people can, you know, maybelearn more on their own time, in their own
pace, maybe they're not comfortable going intoa group yet, but they wanna hear more.
A YouTube page or or a podcast that you mayhave that they that they can go start just
getting that information or more informationthat's longer than the the 30 minute
(34:19):
conversation that that Kyle and Dale are doingright now.
Yes.
So I do have a YouTube page, channel, and Ishare testimonials, live interviews that I've
done, as well as just information that I'mbringing forth about products and the industry
as well.
Okay.
Alright.
Well, we'll put that all in the show notes, ofcourse.
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So Dale, tell me about when when it comes tosomeone that may want to do something good for
themselves by getting on a probiotic or asystem or a protocol, but they're not quite
ready to change their diet.
You know, like like someone like, let's takefor example, my son, 23 years old, who doesn't
feel that, you know, drinking 3 sodas a day isa big deal.
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You know, like, I didn't when I was 23.
I mean, I drank soda, all the way up untilabout, I don't know, early 2000, and then I
stopped having it in the house, period.
And that doesn't mean that I don't drink soda,but I just don't it's just not there to
constantly call me back.
But, like, talk to me a little bit about, like,someone who is in that stage.
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Like like, they're not in crisis.
They're not you know, they they don'tunderstand.
Their brain's not fully developed, and youmentioned something right before we started
talking about this.
You said something about teenagers and I mean,of course, he's not a teenager, but it's still
it's not fully developed yet up there.
I mean, like like any male is ever.
But but, when it comes to what do you do aboutpeople that are like, man, I don't wanna change
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what I do.
I love this question.
I love this question because what is sofascinating is once you start to give the gut
those strains that are gonna produce theneurotransmitters, people have different ideas
of what they wanna eat.
Interesting.
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It's amazing.
Like I've had moms that have said, like, Ican't get my kids to eat vegetables.
They get on the protocol and they're likeasking for vegetables.
Crazy.
But it's true.
Same thing, because it's gonna, it's gonnareduce the cravings for sugar because it's
bringing in good bacteria.
And people are like, I don't have the cravingsfor sugar anymore.
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Like, this is so weird.
Like the gut talks to the brain.
Yeah.
You know?
So so the beauty of it is, you know, of coursewe want everyone to pay attention to their diet
and all that stuff.
But if they're not going to do that and they'lldo this, like, it's a great starting point.
Wow.
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And then just see how it all unfolds.
Because when someone feels better, they havemore energy, they have more mental clarity.
They instinctively know, like, that can of ofsoda doesn't make me feel good.
So they're, like, more in touch with theirbody, but they're also getting different
signals from the gut.
So is it something where they don't reallyyou're not really forcing them to change their
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diet cold turkey?
You just say, hey.
Add this in.
And then as you add this in, things willchange.
You'll start you'll stop craving the sugars.
You'll stop craving, you know, the the need forall the this other stuff.
So okay.
That makes sense.
I didn't realize that that's what it does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because your energy is going up.
Right?
When people are really low energy and they justdon't feel good mentally, they have, like,
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brain fog, which is typically from a lot like apoor diet kind of thing.
Once they start feeling better, they're like, Idon't really want that.
Great.
Great.
Interesting.
Awesome.
Well, I'm so glad I asked that question.
So, I appreciate that.
Okay.
It's a great question.
Yes.
And I just wanna thank everybody for tuning intonight.
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Today, tonight, whenever you're listening tothis, middle of the morning.
I know I've listened to plenty of podcasts andwhen I can't sleep.
But, Dale, thank you so much for coming on.
I appreciate it.
It's been a pure pleasure to get to know youover the last couple of weeks.
Actually, it's been about a month now since Ithink I first met you and how we had our first
introductory call.
So I know that you're gonna be doing greatthings.
I wanna be a part of that to be help you growyour business, you know, and you know that you
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know what I do and want you to help me in anyway that you can.
I just like this collaboration, and health andwellness is is a big part of of my background
in general.
I'm a I'm a server at heart.
When it comes to being a paramedic and arespiratory therapist, that's just my DNA.
So when I'm done and retired in 8 years, I needto be able to do something that still serves.
(38:49):
So doing something like this and having apodcast that brings information to people as we
start building this community and this podcast,it'll be it'll be great for people to have this
and be able to listen to it for years to come.
So appreciate you so much for coming on.
Everybody, don't forget to like, subscribe,share.
Share this with someone that you may feel thatneeds to hear this information or, or, or give
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myself a call or an email.
All my information along with Dale's will be inthe show notes.
Don't hesitate to reach out and, touch basewith us.
Dale, thanks so much.
Appreciate you coming on.
So much, and thank you for all you do.
I appreciate it.
Take care.
Thank you for listening to Ignition Pack,fueling the entrepreneurial fire.
When they think of gut health, they think ofdigestive health.
I mean, and they or they think of immunesystem.
Like, I was aware that, 80% of our immune cellsare in the gut.
The gut controls the brain.
Welcome back to the Ignition Path Podcast.
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I'm your host, Kyle Goodnight.
And before we get to our amazing guest, I justwanna make sure that you like, subscribe, and
share as you're listening to this and, theinformation that's gonna be flowing from both
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If something resonates with you, please, pleasedon't hesitate to leave a comment, ask us
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Hit the share button, push it to them so theycan get the same information.
So from that, I'm gonna introduce you to myamazing, guest today who is Dale loss Lacey
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Lacher.
Right?
Lacher.
Liqueur.
Dale Liqueur.
I had problems with that the first time we met,and so that's just I have problems with, with
pronunciation of of names that I don't hearvery often.
You should hear see your hair.
I butcher people's names when I'm in the backof the medic.
So oh, well.
It it you know, I digress.
So, Dale Lecure is is my guest today.
(01:25):
She is Amari Global, has is a representative ofAmari Global, has an amaze has several amazing,
communities that I've actually been a part of.
And I think we got introduced, by Michelle,someone that I was in a networking event for.
And she introduced me to about, I don't know,1800 people in, like, a 3 minute period.
It was crazy.
But she was awesome.
(01:45):
We had our first call, and, we found thatthere's a lot of stuff that Dale and I, want to
help people with and get out to the world.
And, of course, Ignition Path podcast is allabout, talking about Dale's path, and then
we'll go into her business a little bit later.
But tell us, who you are, Dale, and what youdo, where you came from, how you became an
(02:06):
entrepreneur, what you did prior to that, andall that good stuff.
Alright.
Well, thank you, Kyle.
I appreciate you having me and giving me theopportunity to share my passion and what I will
do to the day I leave the planet, I always say.
So I've been, in the past, a mom basically.
I have 5 kids, I have 4 grandbabies.
(02:27):
I was pretty much a stay at home mom.
I would work on the weekends in catering andwhatnot in between babies.
But really my, my heart was to not have toreport to someone.
I always wanted to be my own boss.
So it was about, oh boy, I can't re I think itwas, it was like 16 years ago.
(02:48):
I found myself at my job in the, on the weekendand me and my boss didn't get along so great.
So there was this one incident where heactually, actually, you know, threw a $5 bill
at me.
I was like What?
What does that even mean?
That was kind of the straw that broke thecamel's back.
(03:10):
Through a I can't even imagine what was behindthat.
Only 1 of them.
I mean, I was working in a catering hall.
They didn't want us to like put tip money out,blah, blah.
Yeah.
So anyway, I remember, like, it was so clear,like it was yesterday.
I ran around the back of the building.
I called my husband.
I was like, I am so done with this.
Like, and I had just been introduced to theindustry of network marketing.
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And I was like, I can't do this anymore.
And I wanted to be home.
I missed everything.
I was always working every single weekend,especially in that industry.
So my husband was like, go for it.
You know?
And so, like I said, I was had just beenintroduced to the industry actually by my
chiropractor.
I've always been into health and wellness andhe was, you know, promoting this health and
(03:53):
wellness cleansing product at the time.
I got had phenomenal results and I decided I'mgoing to do this.
Like I've always been passionate about healthand wellness.
Kind of to go back a little bit in my story,but I think it's interesting.
When I was 10 years old, my dad was diagnosedwith cancer.
He was given a year to live.
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My at the time, you know, I'm, I'm the youngestof 7 and my mother never worked.
So it was quite devastating.
But my dad sought out alternative treatmentsand he ended up finding a doctor who was doing
alternative stuff, actually in the upstate NewYork area.
And he got on the protocol and lived another 40years.
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So at that point, I was 10 years old and itmade a huge impact on me.
And so I always raised my kids, like, allholistic.
I used acupuncture and chiropractors andsupplements and all of the things.
You know, I guess you could call me a crunchymom, but I've always really believed in in
that.
I believe in nature.
I believe in our body's ability to heal itself.
(04:58):
And so I was really, really excited about theindustry and the opportunity to not only share
what I love health and wellness, but to also beable to make income from home.
And the network marketing industry is anincredible industry for that.
In fact, like the 2% of women that earn 6figures do it in this industry.
Wow.
Yeah.
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So it's, it's pretty incredible industry.
Yeah.
I've been a I've been a part of it sprinkledout through my whole entire adult life.
I've, you know, my mom and dad, they were partof the Amway days.
I mean, I I got it.
I got it.
I got into my entrepreneurialism,entrepreneurialism, very honestly because of
mom and dad.
They were they, they were they had AM Way.
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They did a couple other things, you know, I andI was a kid during then, so I didn't really get
it.
But I guess once I got to be a teenager, Iremember my dad being a part of a group.
I think it was called Initech or something, butit had all these big, huge, big name speakers
coming into Columbus, and I was got I got to goto the airport and drive them to the convention
(06:03):
center and be kinda like a help behind thescenes helper.
So it all came very natural to me.
It never felt weird to me to be a part of someform of network marketing throughout my whole
life.
My wife and I sold Scentsy for for many years.
We've done doTERRA.
Like, we've done those things that thatinterest us and never really did a bunch of,
like, pounding the pavement at it.
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We just kinda did it very for our purposes.
And then if when people asked us about it, wewould we would, you know, share the
information.
We never did a lot of crazy stuff.
But 100%, both of us believe in chiropractory.
You know, I wouldn't call myself well, what didyou call yourself?
The the crunchy mom?
I wouldn't call myself a crunchy dad, but, youknow, I remember I remember my mom and dad
(06:44):
being more health conscious, and my wife and Iare very health conscious.
Doesn't mean that we don't eat like crap attimes, but but, we do our best to try to be as
healthy as possible.
You know, supplements is probably the one areathat we both, she's getting better at them,
for, obvious reasons that we've spoke of in thein the past because of our age, but, her and
I's age.
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And, but I've never really been one to do muchon supplements.
I don't know why, but, you know, I'm alwaysopen to hear more about the different things
that are out there.
And, but yeah.
So I I come it comes that's another reason whyyou and I get along real well is we both come
from some of the same background and understandeach other's world a little bit.
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Yeah.
The industry has changed a lot.
It really has.
I mean, it I think people unfortunately have animage of like that hard sell, that push, push,
push, you know, and we really, and there, Iguess there are some network marketers that
still do that, but I feel like we're more aboutsharing value, and sharing information and
(07:49):
being educators.
I mean, that's how I see it.
I mean, it's just such important information.
Like I said, I'll do this till the day I leavethe planet.
So I was with another company for 10 yearsprior to being with Omari.
Okay.
And I was at a marketing conference to learnhow to build more online.
And I met a woman there who was, had just leftanother company to join with the mental
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wellness company, Amari, you know, which hadjust launched.
And when I heard about it, I was like themental wellness company, tell me more.
And so I was hounding her at the conference.
I was like, you gotta tell me more about thisbecause at the time my daughter was struggling.
She was having panic attacks.
She was really, really depressed.
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She was just full of anxiety.
She was in college and things went crazy.
Right.
So I was just blown away by the informationthat she was giving me.
I was like, I've never heard of this before.
Yeah.
In the industry, my whole life, Never heard ofmental wellness and the gut brain access.
Like, what the heck is this?
So I just like went all in, just learn andlearn and learn, and actually went out to meet
(09:02):
the company.
And I ended up like hearing other stories,listening to the, you know, the formulator,
like just learning.
And I was just like, wow, this feels more likean op more of a responsibility to me to share
this information.
And I ended up, leaving my other company, andjust jumping in with this brand new company,
(09:24):
which was over 6 years ago now.
Right.
Right.
Well, and so much more information is so easyto gather compared to back in the day.
You know?
And and I say back in the day, I know I lookyoung and Sprite, but I'm, you know, I'm I'm
52.
I mean, I remember I remember no Internet.
I remember phones on the wall.
I don't you know, I I've lived through that.
(09:45):
I'm sure there's a name.
I mean, I know they they call us Gen x for me.
But, you know, that we live through all ofthat.
We remember the the clicker that you actuallythe reason why the TV changed is because it was
a loud click and not because of a a radiosignal.
So, like, I remember all that stuff and andit's just so much different.
Like, the information now that we can get onmultiple different areas of not only our mental
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health, but our mental wellness, our selfwellness, our self awareness, you know, you
know, medical alternative medical thoughts andalternative and and studies and, like, used to
have to go to a library to pull up an articleto read a study about the statins, and now you
can you can go to a YouTube channel or awebpage and read the entire study about what
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they found about statins and and whatnot.
So, you know, it's just one of those thingswhere I think part of it is we are living in a
world that is so much more information, andsometimes that can be a little too much too.
You know?
Like, wow.
Which one do I choose?
So, you know, you mentioned you you kindasprinkled it in there and it was actually where
I wanna take this conversation for now is thethe gut health.
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That's one thing that I feel that myself and somany people, even though I know it's important,
I've never I don't know what the what thereason is.
I haven't had the dire, oh my gosh, I've gottado this for myself need to understand what that
means.
So talk a little bit more about, you know, whatit is to be gut healthy, why it's important,
(11:12):
and then we'll go from there.
Great.
Yeah.
I think, you're right in that people don't whenthey think of gut health, they think of
digestive health.
Mhmm.
I mean and they or they think of immune system.
Like, I was aware that, 80% of our immune cellsare in the gut, but I was not aware that the
gut controls the brain.
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So it's, it's just fascinating.
So for example, 90% of serotonin, which is ourfeel good neurotransmitter is created in the
gut.
70% of dopamine, which is anotherneurotransmitter that helps us to feel
motivated is also created in the gut.
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And there's many others, hormones as well.
So it just makes sense that if the gut is notgetting what it needs, it's not able to produce
those neurotransmitters.
So for example, if someone is consuming a tonof sugar, it that will create a lot of bad
bacteria in the gut.
So you're not going to produce those othersignals.
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You're going to produce sugar, which is veryaddictive.
You what your body is saying, give me more,give me more.
It's like, the signal is give me more.
Yeah.
And I think I think sugar is either number 1 or2 right behind caffeine of the most addictive
product out there.
So I don't wanna call it a drug, but, I mean,it's essentially what it is.
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Right.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it's just the gut is just way more.
It it it rules our entire body, you know, ourour physical wellness and our emotional
wellness.
So that's why, you know, with my daughter, whenshe got on the protocol, it was like this light
bulb went off, you know, and all of a suddenshe was like, I feel really different.
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Like, within a few days, but then the rollercoaster ride started just to be upfront here.
It wasn't a straight, I feel great now.
It was, I feel great.
Oh, crap.
I don't feel great.
Like it was like a roller coaster ride.
And then I went and met and listened to theformulator, went to see him do a presentation.
I was like, what is going on with my daughter?
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Like, why is she having ups and downs duringthis rebuilding of the gut?
And he was like, because she's having like,basically like the peeling of an onion was it's
kind of like an emotional detox in a sense.
So it sounds really, really crazy and kind oflike out there.
But she said to me, my daughter, when I thinkabout because she had some PTSD as well.
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And she said to me, when I think of whathappened to me, I don't feel the same.
It was like, it's like, woah, that is so likethat just proved to me that
Like it just packaged, it's packageddifferently or something.
Yeah.
You know, like our bodies hold on to
The trauma.
Yes.
And trauma.
Yep.
Separate the body and the mind.
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Right.
So it was just a clear signal to me.
And then in our group that I would, you know,that I mentioned to you and you have seen,
you'll see a lot of stories like that.
Like especially moms that had like postpartumrage or, you know, people with PTSD and just
all sorts of imbalances that not necessarilyshow themselves in terms of like a digestive
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imbalance.
Although we put that in there as well, but willshow up in, you know, just different emotional
imbalances or dysregulation.
Right.
So it's, it's just fascinating to me.
I mean, I learn more and more.
I've got certified as a, mental wellness coach.
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So I studied, you know, for, with Mariettacollege and our formulator.
So I'm learning more.
I mean, it's just endless the informationthat's coming forth in terms of, you know, the
gut microbiome and what it, how important itis.
Important.
It is when, what something you mentioned, earlyon when it comes to gut health and how people
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think of it as being digestive health.
And then you see products that are out therelike a probiotic, and they're like, oh, easier
I digest.
And so then you just so some of the marketingalready puts people in the thought process that
that gut health means digestive health.
So when it comes to, like, a probiotic, youknow, my wife's always on me.
Here, take a probiotic.
Like, I I was I was a little under the weatherover the weekend.
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I think I had some bad coleslaw from arestaurant because everybody else was fine.
I'm the only one that ate the coleslaw, and Ispent 24 plus hours not feeling well.
And we won't go into detail as we all you know,everybody every you know, as long as you, you I
I always live by this this rule that somebodytold me way back when in the hospital when all
of a sudden the conversation seemed to turn to,you know, poop.
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Every as long eventually, every conversationturns to poop.
But, I digress on that, but I didn't feel greatfor a while.
And she's like, here, have a probiotic.
I'm like, what's one probiotic gonna do?
And in general, talk about, like, a probioticand what that does for you and and the the I
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don't know.
This what I feel, one probiotic in the middleof a sickness is like spitting into a
hurricane, in my opinion.
But I took it nonetheless because at the time,I don't care.
I wanna feel better.
So talk about probiotics compared to, like, guthealth and what role they play, if any.
Okay.
So that is probiotics is, like, you see iteverywhere now.
(16:53):
Right?
You see it everywhere.
And like you
said It's in yeah.
It's in yogurt.
Yeah.
A probiotics and yogurt.
Yeah.
I mean, we all know that yogurt has goodcultures, blah, blah, blah.
So so probiotics, that's what our productscontain, but the difference is there are many,
many strains and species of probiotics.
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Okay.
So there are probiotics that are specific fordigestive health.
So the goal and what makes a happy gut is tohave a diversity of different strains and
species of probiotics.
So probiotics, you can't you don't just go to astore and pick out a probiotic.
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You need to know what you're looking for thatprobiotic to do in the body.
So the strains and species that we use in themental wellness company have been clinically
studied to target mental wellness.
So, you know, study to decrease anxiety, toincrease, you know, serotonin, to decrease,
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cortisol, you know, so there are specific onesthat do specific things and our bodies need a
lot of different ones.
So that's the idea is to get a diverse plane,in, you know, in your gut.
Right.
Right.
So, so a question that I did not answer thatyou asked me, I apologize.
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No worries.
Was was, you know, what creates this dysbiosisor imbalance in the gut?
So so basically like high stress levels willput your body into a very, very high state of
cortisol, like too much cortisol, like fight orflight state.
When you're in that state, your body produces alot of the bad bacteria, and it will not
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produce a lot of serotonin.
So the cortisol is like fighting for you,fighting to, to produce the serotonin.
You know what I'm saying?
So you can't have really high stress levels andproduce a lot of serotonin.
So what our products do will lower thatcortisol level, which will then increase more
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serotonin.
Does that make sense?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I mean, it balanced.
I mean, once again, it's a gut balance.
So Right.
Like high stress levels, like medications, likeantibiotics that are destroying not only the
bad bacteria, but the good bacteria.
So that's why they say take a probiotic afteryou've taken an antibiotic.
You want to,
oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I knew that.
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I knew.
I knew like we, my daughter got real sick whenshe was younger and she was on some heavy
antibiotics.
They thought she had thought she was septic andhad blood, blood infection.
It ended up being something different, but theyflooded her with all these antibiotics.
And, of course, 30 days later, she had she hadthe, the issue of stripping all of her, you
know, all of the the the gut biome away, whichcaused its own problems with how they make you
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get on a different antibiotic to try to buildthat back.
So, Yeah.
So I I do, you know, my my wife and I are bothmedicals.
We have some knowledge of that kind of stuff ingeneral, and the stuff that does that.
Now when it comes to, gut health and the biome,you know, what are some common signs or
symptoms that that one may be able to, to beable to do a self assessment to see if they're
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compromised?
I mean, most likely nobody's gut health is justautomatically good unless you're focused on it.
But what are some signs of when you need to dosomething about it?
And some Yeah.
That's a great question.
So, many things are a sign of gut dysbiosis.
Some of which will be very you know, probablyyou'll be surprised to hear.
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Skin issues are definitely a sign of gutdysbiosis.
Allergy Like like eczema?
Yes.
Eczema, any kind of skin issue.
I've never had eczema in my life.
Eczema is a big one.
I've just I don't know why they're but I'mlike, that looks like eczema.
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That's not a scratch or like, I wear abracelet.
Yeah.
But that didn't scrape that.
I'm like, what is going on?
Anything that's on the skin is a reflection ofwhat's going on on the inside.
Gotcha.
So skin is a huge one.
Allergies is another one.
Huge.
So many people.
It's it's basically like the gut is out ofbalance.
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The immune system is on hyper alert, which isnot it's not supposed to be that way.
So that's also autoimmune.
Like when the when the body's on like hyper
Right.
Hypersensitive.
That shows us that's a sign of gut dysbiosis,not sleeping well, anxiety, depression.
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Yeah.
This just it really everything and that andthat's the thing what's so fascinating when you
go in the group, you see like all thesedifferent things like
Oh, yeah.
And it's like, this is all the same protocol.
Like, it's all going back to the root cause.
Right.
It's the gut, which I'm all about.
Get to the root cause.
Yeah.
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And that'll be very interesting.
I cannot wait to, you know, before we hitrecord, you mentioned that there's someone that
I introduce you to that you're going to bemeeting with later today.
Matter of fact, matter of fact, because hehelped me tremendously.
I I purchased his program.
He's my sponsor now.
I have an affiliate sponsorship with him for myshow, and he focuses on, you know, anxiety,
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procrastination, self, you know, you know, thatif you don't feel like you're good enough,
people pleasing.
Like, he focuses on that through, I don't it'snot through nutrition, but I know he doesn't
think nutrition isn't an important you know, Iknow he feels that's important, but that's not
his major role with it.
So it'll be very interesting for the 2 of you.
And that's why I got the 2 of you togetherbecause I really think that the 2 of you could
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have some sort of super pack when it comes tookay.
You've got the nutrition side of it and guthealth side of it, and he's got the other side
of it that you have to do some work inside ofyour own thought processes and some of your own
understanding of where you come from and whereyou came from and how you address those old
thoughts and feelings.
And so it'll be very interesting to hear howyou guys, come up with, with, you know, how you
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can help each other out.
But with that being said, once I I did say thathe's my sponsor, I'm gonna go ahead and break
to him, the commercial that I've made for himfor for this session.
Then we're gonna come back, and, I've got acouple other questions for you, and we'll go
from there.
So we're right now, we'll hear from my sponsor.
Let me ask you a question.
Would your life be better if whatever you'restruggling with, you could finally break free
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of?
So what am I talking about?
The funky five.
What's the funky 5 you ask?
It's those oh so familiar struggles.
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I call the big a, anxiety.
For years I struggled to manage my own version,I call them my funky 3.
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I had 3 of these funky 5 weighing me down.
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Truly gone.
I was so amazed.
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Okay.
And we're back with Dale Lecure.
Once again, Dale Daniel Packard is an amazinggentleman.
He's helped me so much, with with everythingthat his program does.
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Don't hesitate to give him a call.
Get that free 90 minute session from him.
It could be life changing for you.
And, of course, you know, that may be somethingthat that Dale and him can come up with later
here.
And it's like it's like it's kinda weird thatthe the crossroads are now coming in one
episode.
But nonetheless, we're back with Dale LaCureand, talking about, Amari Global and and gut
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health and how important it is.
And I did have another question about guthealth that I wanted to make sure I asked.
Can I just respond to, David Packard?
Absolutely.
Really looking forward to meeting him, but Ialways say, you know, it's never one thing.
Right.
But that's a huge that's I'm glad you saidthat.
Yeah.
I agree.
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I agree.
I mean, you can't just, you know, takesupplements and
Think that everything is fine.
Yep.
Right.
Yeah.
And But what I love about starting with, youknow, protocol is that we'll give you the
strength and the stress resilience to do thedeeper work.
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And that's what we see.
And that's what exactly what happened.
Yeah.
And there is some deep yeah.
With his program, there's definitely some deepwork, but if you're not feeling I mean, there
were times when, and he does address it inthere.
I know that one point in time, he's like, youknow what?
If you don't do a couple of things that you'resupposed to do on a daily basis, just get back
into it.
Don't don't beat yourself up.
Just just jump back in, you know, and that kindof thing.
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So that roller coaster that you're talkingabout.
Anytime you're trying to transform yourself Imean and I face this with some mental health
issues from my first responder days.
Not days.
I'm still a first responder.
My first responder mental health crisis that Ifaced is, yes, the day that I felt as low as I
felt ever, I got help.
I raised my hand, never been shy about it.
I'm like, I need to talk to my mentor.
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I don't know what's going on.
I don't feel like I'm gonna hurt myself, but Idon't feel right, so let me let me reach out to
them.
That through that conversation was a very biglow that at the end of the conversation was,
okay, there's hope.
And then I got ahold of the people that shesuggests I get ahold of.
But between that period of time, there wasanother dip, and then I got help.
And then there's you know, and then as you it'salmost like this this wave that comes up and up
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and up until you get to the point where you'relike, okay.
I'm I'm actually dealing with things better.
I actually can deal with this situation again.
I actually understand it better now.
I understand the reason why it affected me.
That's another thing that a professional thatcan help you sort through things that are
bugging you and things that are that aremessing with you.
You can they can help you find the root cause.
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And when I found my root cause, it was a gamechanger.
I see it because everybody everybody knows whatmy trigger is now.
Carbon monoxide poisoning is a trigger for myand I run on carbon monoxide, people.
I do, and I will in my career.
The next time I have one, I don't know how it'sgonna affect me.
I think I know it's gonna how it's gonna affectme.
I'm going to feel horrible about it, but I'mnot gonna have that deep low.
(28:50):
I'm gonna be able to understand why I feelhorrible about it, and it was all stemmed on
something that happened to a friend of minewhen I was a child that scarred me for life
that I didn't even know scarred me.
It was subconscious.
And it and that's the kind of thing.
Like like, if you can focus on the gut and getthat in balance, then if that has the serotonin
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levels to level things out, it makes so muchsense because all that stuff you're talking
about is real.
Like, that is not that that is not voodoomedicine or, like, you call the crunchy med
like, you're not the crunchy mom when you say,well, hold on a second.
Serotonin and, you know, and cortisol and yourand other things that affect your mood and
affect your heart rate and affect yourwell-being.
(29:32):
Like, we know darn well that breath work canhelp you regulate your your heartbeat because
it's science.
That stuff is science that you're now usingyou're using, you know, you know, probiotics of
whatever genre to help level that out.
All that stuff is science, and it can beproven.
Yeah.
The body does keep the score.
If you've never read the book, people that arelistening, you've never read the book, the body
(29:54):
keeps score.
Read that book because that but that is thetruth.
And when you said something earlier that thatthe body remembers, it made me think of that
book, and and it keeps the score.
And if you're not if you don't have your wholebody in check, you know, it's gonna remember.
And even when your brain doesn't until it'stime.
Right.
Right.
I mean, you just can't deny the physiologicalpiece of it.
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And if you're in a better state of health, youknow, your nutrition is on point.
Your sleep is on point.
You got your, your gut stuff working better.
Like, you're just going to be more inclined to,to have the resilience to deal with going deep.
Right.
And and finding those pieces that you need toheal on Yeah.
(30:37):
You know, and now you're aware.
Right?
That's where it starts.
You gotta be aware of it.
So sounds like, you know, he's gonna he doesthat work where he's identifying.
This is where this this is when this eventhappened that's triggering you.
So that that is just
Good to know.
So Yeah.
Part of it.
Yeah.
That's good work.
Yep.
Yep.
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And that's, you know and and luckily, I knewsaw a lot of that stuff going in, but I didn't
know how to organize it, you know, and that'swhat helped me was the organization of that.
When it comes to, like, let's say someone'slistening to this and they're like, man, you
know, it makes sense, this gut health thing.
I've heard about it before, and there's aprotocol out there because I don't know where
to turn to.
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Like, tell tell us how someone were to getstarted to start either one, learning the right
things.
Don't not just go into TikTok and finding guthealth videos.
Don't get me wrong.
I know darn well because you've you've turnedme on to a couple of your, your group members
that run amazing TikToks, and they've got goodinformation.
But when it comes to try how do they how doessomeone that wants to start diving into this,
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what is you what is your suggestion for theirfirst start?
Like, a 1 on 1 with you or go look this or goread this book.
Like like, something that is that would wheredo you tell people to get started?
So I love to do 1 on ones, but I feel like Ikind of have to build the trust first in order
for people to want to do that.
And I think that people need to hear and seeother stories, like other, you know,
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experiences that people have had when they'vegotten their gut back and balanced with our
protocols.
So I like to invite people into our communityon Facebook.
I think there's, like, almost 60,000 people inthere, which goes to show me that people are
looking for natural solutions.
They're looking for ways to feel betteremotionally.
I mean, it goes without saying there's a lot ofstress, unfortunately, in this world right now.
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But and we have to just keep ourselves strongto be able to deal with it.
Right?
So I like to invite people into the community.
I'll tag them in a few of the posts thatregard, you know, that have to do with kind of
the, what they're looking for or what they'reexperiencing.
And then I love to just hop on a zoom and justbe like, Hey, tell me more.
Like, what are your top priorities right now?
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Because you gotta start somewhere.
And then I'll recommend a protocol and we getgoing.
I keep in touch with everybody.
And that's how we do it.
Great.
Great.
And where do they find that out?
Like, where do they find that community?
Is it a is it a is it closed or is it public ordo they have to answer questions like
Closed.
It's a private group because people are sharingtheir, you know, their ability and their
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intimate stories.
So I would invite you invite them in
once.
Okay.
So it's not somewhere.
If I, if I put a link to the Facebook groupthat that doesn't automatically get them in
there, can they at least, if so, like what'sthe best way for someone to start the process
of getting into that group to hear the stories?
Right.
So the best way would be to reach out to me inmessenger.
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And then I would send, you know, we wouldconnect friend requests kind of thing, and then
I can invite them into the community.
Okay.
Great.
Great.
Alright.
Real quick, if there's anything else that youwanna share with us that's coming up for you, I
was you know, the Ignition Path podcast is notonly to hear about your your path through
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entrepreneurialism, entrepreneurialism, but Iand your business right now, but to talk about
what's coming up so people can, you know, maybelearn more on their own time, in their own
pace, maybe they're not comfortable going intoa group yet, but they wanna hear more.
A YouTube page or or a podcast that you mayhave that they that they can go start just
getting that information or more informationthat's longer than the the 30 minute
(34:19):
conversation that that Kyle and Dale are doingright now.
Yes.
So I do have a YouTube page, channel, and Ishare testimonials, live interviews that I've
done, as well as just information that I'mbringing forth about products and the industry
as well.
Okay.
Alright.
Well, we'll put that all in the show notes, ofcourse.
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So Dale, tell me about when when it comes tosomeone that may want to do something good for
themselves by getting on a probiotic or asystem or a protocol, but they're not quite
ready to change their diet.
You know, like like someone like, let's takefor example, my son, 23 years old, who doesn't
feel that, you know, drinking 3 sodas a day isa big deal.
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You know, like, I didn't when I was 23.
I mean, I drank soda, all the way up untilabout, I don't know, early 2000, and then I
stopped having it in the house, period.
And that doesn't mean that I don't drink soda,but I just don't it's just not there to
constantly call me back.
But, like, talk to me a little bit about, like,someone who is in that stage.
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Like like, they're not in crisis.
They're not you know, they they don'tunderstand.
Their brain's not fully developed, and youmentioned something right before we started
talking about this.
You said something about teenagers and I mean,of course, he's not a teenager, but it's still
it's not fully developed yet up there.
I mean, like like any male is ever.
But but, when it comes to what do you do aboutpeople that are like, man, I don't wanna change
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what I do.
I love this question.
I love this question because what is sofascinating is once you start to give the gut
those strains that are gonna produce theneurotransmitters, people have different ideas
of what they wanna eat.
Interesting.
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It's amazing.
Like I've had moms that have said, like, Ican't get my kids to eat vegetables.
They get on the protocol and they're likeasking for vegetables.
Crazy.
But it's true.
Same thing, because it's gonna, it's gonnareduce the cravings for sugar because it's
bringing in good bacteria.
And people are like, I don't have the cravingsfor sugar anymore.
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Like, this is so weird.
Like the gut talks to the brain.
Yeah.
You know?
So so the beauty of it is, you know, of coursewe want everyone to pay attention to their diet
and all that stuff.
But if they're not going to do that and they'lldo this, like, it's a great starting point.
Wow.
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And then just see how it all unfolds.
Because when someone feels better, they havemore energy, they have more mental clarity.
They instinctively know, like, that can of ofsoda doesn't make me feel good.
So they're, like, more in touch with theirbody, but they're also getting different
signals from the gut.
So is it something where they don't reallyyou're not really forcing them to change their
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diet cold turkey?
You just say, hey.
Add this in.
And then as you add this in, things willchange.
You'll start you'll stop craving the sugars.
You'll stop craving, you know, the the need forall the this other stuff.
So okay.
That makes sense.
I didn't realize that that's what it does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because your energy is going up.
Right?
When people are really low energy and they justdon't feel good mentally, they have, like,
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brain fog, which is typically from a lot like apoor diet kind of thing.
Once they start feeling better, they're like, Idon't really want that.
Great.
Great.
Interesting.
Awesome.
Well, I'm so glad I asked that question.
So, I appreciate that.
Okay.
It's a great question.
Yes.
And I just wanna thank everybody for tuning intonight.
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Today, tonight, whenever you're listening tothis, middle of the morning.
I know I've listened to plenty of podcasts andwhen I can't sleep.
But, Dale, thank you so much for coming on.
I appreciate it.
It's been a pure pleasure to get to know youover the last couple of weeks.
Actually, it's been about a month now since Ithink I first met you and how we had our first
introductory call.
So I know that you're gonna be doing greatthings.
I wanna be a part of that to be help you growyour business, you know, and you know that you
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know what I do and want you to help me in anyway that you can.
I just like this collaboration, and health andwellness is is a big part of of my background
in general.
I'm a I'm a server at heart.
When it comes to being a paramedic and arespiratory therapist, that's just my DNA.
So when I'm done and retired in 8 years, I needto be able to do something that still serves.
(38:49):
So doing something like this and having apodcast that brings information to people as we
start building this community and this podcast,it'll be it'll be great for people to have this
and be able to listen to it for years to come.
So appreciate you so much for coming on.
Everybody, don't forget to like, subscribe,share.
Share this with someone that you may feel thatneeds to hear this information or, or, or give
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myself a call or an email.
All my information along with Dale's will be inthe show notes.
Don't hesitate to reach out and, touch basewith us.
Dale, thanks so much.
Appreciate you coming on.
So much, and thank you for all you do.
I appreciate it.
Take care.
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