December 17, 2024 • 33 mins
Kyle Goodknight engages with Channae Haller, delving into her nonprofit journey and the complexities of establishing such an organization. Channae shares insights on the critical role legal assistance plays in starting a nonprofit and the importance of community partnerships and resources. The discussion covers the services her organization offers, addressing misconceptions about nonprofit funding and operations. Success stories illustrate the impact of peer support specialists. The conversation also touches on self-care in emotionally demanding roles. Kyle shares his voice-over actor experience, and they discuss advocating for the wrongly convicted. The episode concludes with ways to support Channae's charity and a call to action.
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The services that we offer are peer support,family peer support services, and then
advocacy, case management, transportation, andwe provide that to anyone that is experiencing
the criminal justice system.
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Hello, and welcome back to the Ignition Pathpodcast.
I'm your host, Kyle Goodnight.
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So today, I have Shanae Holler.
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So, her and I've had a a couple of premeetings, and we go, Shanae, holler.
And she goes She's a holler back.
Holler back, yo.
So with names like ours, we always have tolike, we just have to have fun with them.
Right?
Kyle, good night.
Is it morning yet?
What was the one I got yesterday?
It was a, hey, bad night.
Bad morning is what they called me.
Hey, bad morning.
You know, the 2 opposites.
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So not good, but bad.
Not morning, but not yet.
So yeah.
So, you know, it it's, you know, par for thecourse.
We're used to it.
Right?
Yes.
Very much so.
Well, Shanae, thank you so much for coming onthe Ignition Path podcast and, getting ready to
talk about your 501c3 and and how you gotthrough that process and what the
entrepreneurial path that you took during that.
So go ahead, introduce yourself, talk aboutyour background a little bit, what you did
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before you were an entrepreneur or if thatstarted at birth, you know, just explain the
path through entrepreneurship, and then we'llget into, specifics about your about your
charity a little bit later.
Okay.
Sounds good.
So my name is Shanae, and I kinda have alwaysbeen, like, in the entrepreneurial kind of
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area.
I was in the salon industry and was anaesthetician.
And then after that and so I had an LLC withthat.
And then after that, I started a jewelrybusiness that I did resin art and made jewelry
and kinda did both at the same time, but, youknow, had some some things and things happen.
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And I started, diving into the nonprofit aspectof things because I, started helping
individuals that were experiencing somethingthat I had gone through and I just, it was a
whole different world, the non profit world.
So that's been a really eye opening process forsure compared to the LLC or, you know, the sole
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proprietorship, you know, sole proprietorship,you know, anything like that.
So it's been a little bit.
Yeah.
And, you know, I've I'm I'm an LLC personally.
You know, Goodnight Goodnight Voiceovers is aLLC, and then I've got it doing business as GPS
Podcasting Services.
So I've, you know, I've got 2 LLCs, if youwill.
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But yeah.
So I don't know much about the nonprofit world.
I wanted to get to know more.
You know, I wanna know if there's, you know,possibly somewhere down the line where I could
make a nonprofit for my, you know, my my firstresponder mental health stuff.
That would be a cool way to, like, be able toprovide it for free once you got, you know,
funding and whatnot.
So tell us a little bit more about your 501c3and, and what it what it is and what it does
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and and how, how it how it ties into yourentrepreneur, background.
Yeah.
No.
For sure.
The process was really complicated, actually.
Like, I mean, I wish that I had someone tokinda navigate through that.
I ended up hiring an attorney.
I ended up just because of some of the stuff,especially filing the paperwork with the 501c3
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accreditation.
I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't doinganything wrong.
So I found out an amazing agency that, or a lawfirm that specializes in nonprofit, and so they
helped tremendously, because at first, I justdidn't know how to really set up everything,
like, oh, what's the process?
What what do I go through first?
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Which paperwork, you know, business aspects,like, do I, become, incorporated?
Do I do this?
And so it was the navigation that they they'vehelped tremendously through that process.
And then we became 501c3 credited thisFebruary.
And when did you start that process?
So I started it.
I mean, I really didn't like I was doing all ofthe kind of volunteer aspect of things and,
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like, all the the work, but not getting paidfor it like a nonprofit does.
But I wasn't actually looking into thepaperwork until a lot of people were advising
me when I was doing when I started the nonprofit and just kind of helping the
incarcerated individuals to, like, I was, like,oh, maybe this should be a business, you know,
and that's when I started being, like, oh, it'sa non profit, I guess, essentially.
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And and then a couple people kinda navigated meand was, like, oh, you should look into this.
And I started asking other organizations, like,what they did or suggested.
And some people, it was just reallyoverwhelming for them and so that's why, like,
I ended up, just doing the attorney attorneyangle, you know, because it was just I didn't
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wanna mess up anything especially
Right.
With it with it being a nonprofit and, with,you know, dealing with a lot of these different
clients, I just didn't wanna mess anything upor do anything that and and especially because
I have dealt with the criminal justice system,I don't wanna do anything illegal.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't wanna do anything.
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Dotted and t's are crossed.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I have people that I have not made super happy.
So I just always keep my ducks in a row, makesure everything is, you know, dotted sign good.
So
And it and it provides a layer of protection toyou personally too, doesn't it?
Yeah.
It does.
More so than an LLC.
I
Correct.
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Correct.
The LLC is such an easy process.
But, yeah, I did mine online and had my numberthat same night.
And yeah.
I was like, sweet.
A $100 done.
Got a company.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No.
Exactly.
And then you get that, and then you're all setup.
You know?
And then you just pay on it and and keep thatconsistent.
But with the nonprofit, there's so manydifferent angles.
We gotta have a board
and board.
Yeah.
Exactly.
The board Now
were you on the board as well?
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Or are you okay.
So you can be you can be a board member, butyou can't be, like, the president of the board
since you were the one that initiated it.
Right?
Like
so there's different states have differentlaws.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Every state has a different law, so you wouldjust have to look into and that's why it was
better to have an attorney as well.
Right.
Right.
They could suggest uh-huh.
Suggest Well, I thought it was all
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heard that, like, you can open an a nonprofitin a different state even though you dwell in
another state.
Correct.
That the nonprofit is built in Nevada per se,but I'm in Ohio.
Yep.
So Yeah.
You can do that too.
Yes.
Yeah.
There's so many different things, but I learneda lot because certain states, you can be the
executive director and the president.
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Oh, okay.
So it's just it's they Get
a lawyer.
Yeah.
Get a get a firm that specializes in it.
That's that's the common theme.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just because then they can advise you tothe correct roles and, like, responsibilities
for everyone too, you know, and just makingsure that you are doing everything that isn't
gonna harm harm anything in the process,especially because, obviously, it's it's gonna
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be your baby.
Like, you want it to be, you know, somethingthat's gonna be good at the end of the day.
So
Well and, you know, podcasting as much as I'vebeen podcasting, I, you know, I I have 2
podcasts on my own, and I help, you know, 7others do their podcast.
So it's one of those things where I never knewthat podcasting would get me into wanting to
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know more about 501c threes and nonprofits.
But there's quite a bit out there, and it'sactually a fairly smart way to run a business
if there's, you know, if there's a certainpopulation that can't really pay for the
services that you provide.
So talk a little bit about what you provideinside of your 501c3 that you what is the
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specialty that you do to help a a client thatcomes into the comes into the
Okay.
Yeah.
So, all of our services are free.
So and what the services that we offer are peersupport, family peer support services, and then
advocacy, case management, transportation, andwe provide that to anyone that is experiencing
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the criminal justice system.
So whether you're incarcerated, whether you'rethe family member, whether you are, you know,
whether you just got a ticket and you don'tknow what to go through.
Just anything with justice related that you areexperiencing, we help navigate.
Housing, we help with too, but that's, I mean,extension of case management.
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But, just help set them up for success throughthe process.
Wow.
That's cool.
Yeah.
I just met somebody yesterday, the day before,that has a nonprofit.
Actually, I think she's I had a call with heryesterday, and she's gonna come on my podcast
Friday.
And she's a nonprofit, and what she does is shegets vehicles for single mothers.
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So I need to hook
you guys up.
I need to, like, introduce you.
Yeah.
Need that for a lot.
I mean,
my name is
really awesome.
Right here on my calendar.
Cindy well, I won't yeah.
I'll Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
That I mean,
I gotta make sure I mean, I guarantee you, sheI'm oh, I don't I shouldn't say guarantee you.
I am sure that she'll want people to know hername, but
No.
But I yeah.
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I would love to have that because that would bea really great
All of it.
I'll put you
guys up.
And that's that's another reason why I podcast.
I would have Yeah.
You know, I would have never been able to putthese 2 together unless I met you a week or 2
ago, and I met her yesterday.
Yeah.
And you're both nonprofits, and and nonprofitsneed other nonprofits sometimes to be inside of
them.
And there's, you know, there's or to be withinthe, you know, the network of them so they can,
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like, oh, you know what?
We really need to help you get a car so you canget to your job, and we've helped you get your
job and helped give you a house.
But, man, we just we can't afford the car now.
But wait a second.
There's a car person I know that we can gothrough their service.
So yeah.
That's sources are the best and, like, wealways we we address them as community
partners.
You know, anyone that's gonna help help ourindividuals through the process is is the best
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extension.
So any resource, we're like, please, that youknow, I snatch that up and add that to our list
because it takes a village.
It takes, you know, a whole village to helpsome of these, you know, some of these
individuals.
And what is the name of your nonprofit again?
I I I don't know if we say Justice
by objectives.
Yeah.
Justice by objectives is the name of yournonprofit.
Fantastic.
And all those links for that will be in the inthe notes and stuff where people can go to your
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website and read all about it and maybe evendonate, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Always open for donations right now becausethat supports you.
Now, now, you know, when it comes to thebusiness side of a nonprofit, you know, people
people get paid for their services inside ofit.
Talk a little bit about that.
Like like, how do you know, because I've alwaysfelt before I've learned about nonprofits,
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there has been some people that have said thatnonprofits are there to kinda hide money or to
pay the wrong like, talk a little bit aboutthat and debunk that for, anybody listening
that says that, you know, nonprofits are justthere to to line the pockets of the people that
are running it.
So, of course, you know, I mean, I I save livesfor a living.
You know?
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I'm a paramedic.
I get paid to do that.
I don't get paid extra.
I don't somebody doesn't pay me more to savetheir life compared to someone else, but but
it's just one of those things where I'm a firmbeliever that, you know you know, my business,
my voice over business, my podcasting business,I provide a service that is top notch, and and,
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you know, I get paid for my services.
When I don't get paid for my services, it's notas top notch because there's just not as much.
You may push it off.
It's not as it's not as upfront.
So talk a little bit about when it comes to,you know, having an income from a 501c3 that
you set up and and how that works and what didthey explain to you?
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Did you have any questions about that when youfirst started it or or any any, what's the word
I'm looking for?
Not regrets.
Any, reservations of of having that be a partof your income?
So the it really all depends on the grant.
So we're grant funded.
We do donations as well, but really, like, thethe most money that we get is from grants.
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And so typically, how we employ an individualor or do anything with within that money is
from whatever is implicated inside of thegrant.
So we can't you know, because we have to extendit all out to that foundation after, a lot of
the times, And it has to be itemized in everysingle detail.
So there is, like,
checks and balances that you report to back tothe IRS every year.
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Correct.
Quarterly, what have you.
What is it quarterly or
So, we just started we're we just became 5 1 c3 accredited.
We don't have to end do a 9 90 until thisJanuary.
So this January, we will.
And then after that, yes, quarterly.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Yeah.
So tell us a story about someone that that was,you know, that truly benefited from your
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service that may have been, you know, don't ofcourse, don't say I don't know how HIPAA I'm
I'm involved with HIPAA with medical stuff, soI can tell generalities like, oh, we had a a 22
year old male who overdosed, but I can't sayanything more than that.
You know
what I mean?
I can't say where it was, who he was.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I can't even say if it's amale or female.
But it's one of those things where, you know, Ican use it for training purposes if it's going
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to better my profession and my, you know, mycoworkers, but I can't come home and be like,
hey, listen to this, you know, and tell thewhole story and and give names and and
specifics.
It's all the HIPAA stuff.
So are you bound by some sort of HIPAA thingwhen it comes or some form of HIPAA when it
comes to be able to tell a story about someoneinside of your service that could demonstrate
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exactly what you know, how valuable it is tohave this kind of service out there for for
that individual?
We just can't do we can't discuss names.
And so we also have all of our clients sign,usually some, you know, confidentiality
agreements and just, like, saying, like, we,you know, we might discuss certain things,
like, on our website or we might have this.
If if you're okay with it, Sign this document,you know, and just making sure that they're
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okay with everything.
So, yeah, that's how just because we are nottechnically, like, HIPAA with because we're not
medical professionals.
Gotcha.
But there's still, like, a moral
code in
the company.
Okay.
100%.
Gotcha.
And we
still are we still are, I mean, ourcertification is still with the Department of
Health and Human Services.
Okay.
Okay.
Do you
know what I mean?
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It's through the state.
So Yeah.
We're still attached.
There's still a technically HIPAA, but it's,like, different, verbiage, you know?
Okay.
And just making sure that we're not discussingnames, but we can successfully like, their
success stories, especially if they relay thosesuccess stories and give those to us to explain
to them.
But we just leave names out of it, andobviously, we don't attach pictures if they
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don't want to be Right.
On anything.
So but, yeah.
Well, tell us one of your success stories thenif
Mhmm.
As as much as you can say, you know, publicly,because this is a public podcast, but Yeah.
And YouTube channel.
But, you know, tell tell us something that thatwas a service that you guys provided, your
501c3s provided, for an individual and and howthat affected their life as a whole.
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Do you have any any any back stories like that?
Yeah.
There's one right now.
He just, I'm super proud of him.
He is just doing phenomenal.
You know, he was really struggling and he had asevere mental health condition as well.
He was also experiencing a lot of of theimperfections in the criminal justice system,
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and he also felt like, his race had to dealwith it.
Mhmm.
And it was and I saw a lot of the things thathe was saying.
You know, at first, I thought it could havebeen angle of his schizophrenia.
Just having the paranoia, but just saw a lot ofthings that he was seeing as well.
And so I just, you know, advocated for him andwas there any of his court appointments, going
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to housing appointments.
Like, we ended up like, he was homeless.
He had nothing, and but he had an amazing past,like, amazing, like, football scholarship,
like, amazing, amazing things, butschizophrenia kinda took effect on him.
Anyways, he the the help and the support thatwe we provided him, got him housing, as you
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know, set up with housing.
So he was, living in an apartment, and then he,you know, got a really good job.
He's now has a job.
He's, you know, taking his medicationsactively.
He's consistently, like, doing therapy.
He's consistently taking on and, like, actuallyverbalizing about, like, the past that, kind of
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maybe sent him into some of the psychosis.
You know?
And he's just really understanding who he is asa person, and it's just really cool to see
because he's, like, so proud of himself.
Like, he's, like because he went from beingpart time and now he's, like, guess what?
And calling, you know, and, you know, I havefull time.
You know?
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And it's just really cool to see now, like, hehas a life.
He has a purpose.
He before, like, you could see it in his eyes,like, he's just, like, what's the point?
Like, I'm just gonna go to jail and I'm justgonna do this, but now he's like, I don't want
that to happen.
Like, let's advocate for this.
Like, let's let's oh, I now have a place tolive.
Okay.
Oh, cool.
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Now I have a job that's giving me money and andI can actually go out to eat.
I can go do this.
I can hang out with friends.
You can be in person.
I exact you know what?
Exactly.
And it's just so cool because we're the onethat he calls and, you know, when he's having
that good positive thing and it's just thecoolest because he, you can see just a big
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light that goes, goes off on him, especiallywhen he hears those words.
Like, I tried to always extend that out tothat.
Like, I'm so proud of you because some of thesepeople have 0 support.
They don't have a mom or dad that they'retalking to.
They don't have
That's you.
Brother, sister.
They don't have anything.
So you need to give them that They don't
have that.
You
know?
Unit.
Yep.
Nope.
So even when they're doing good, who are theygonna relay it to?
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You know?
So it's really cool to see that we're the onesthat he extends out.
And he's like, you know, wants the high fiveand wants the, you know, kudos because he is.
He's doing fabulous.
He's doing
fantastic work.
Like a you're you're you're kinda like a lifecoach, but you're also like a a facilitator.
So you facilitate things, but is there lifecoaching involved with that as well, or how
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does that work?
So peer support
I mean, you said mental health stuff.
So you're not a mental health expert, but youcan guide them to the mental health.
Yeah.
Mental health resources.
So what a peer support is, a peer supportspecialist is someone that, you know, gets
certification.
They do a 40 hour training.
It's all trauma informed.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So they specifically, you know, help with theextending out of the mental health resources.
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With us, We get proper education on, attorneyresources, anything law related resources,
extending that out, but we educate ourselves onthat, but you learn that through your training.
And these, peer support specialists have livedexperience so they have actually gone through
those experiences well.
They just are now in recovery from thoseangles, whether it be a mental health
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condition, whether it be, substance abuse, orcriminal justice involved.
Majority actually have probably all 3, andthen, and then, like, pretty much the people
that we have employed and everything havesimilar, all 3.
You know?
And so so then they can help with any angle ofthat process too.
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Awesome.
Awesome.
Well, that's actually a good segue with talkingabout the mental health stuff.
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They help keep this, this going becauseeverything is, a time and effort.
And like we were talking earlier with Shanaehere that that we do get funded certain ways,
and one of them is a sponsorship for me.
For you, it's donations and grants.
And, someday, maybe, hopefully, with my mentalhealth for, first responders, I run a podcast
on that.
I can maybe tap into Shanae's Shanae'sexpertise and maybe then her get me connected
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to her lawyer too, see how I can do a nonprofitso my first responders can get some stuff that
are because a lot of times, first responders,when their when their back's up against the
wall, they may have already lost their job.
They already may have lost their marriage andall that stuff.
So it's, it it I bring people on my podcastthat have connections in multiple different
webs of stuff and and, learning about a 501c3tonight and and hearing more about it, you
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know, just gets my wheels a turn.
It like, okay.
How can this, you know, this possiblyeventually down the line help me and my goals
and my mission that I'm that I'm I'm strivingfor.
So so, Shanae, real quick, when it comes to,when it comes to the the fact that, how much
time?
I'm like, how do you take a vacation from this?
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Like like, when do you have your time?
Like, because we because we know that we Imean, everybody like, the the self work that
I've gone through and and when I hit my walland I needed I learned self care and and how
important that is.
What do you do for your own self care inside ofa 501c3 that that is so emotionally draining at
times and physically draining?
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I'm sure.
It sounds like you just you give all ofyourself to these folks that come into the
system.
Like, what do you do for yourself?
Like like, talk me through a little bit aboutabout how you do your own self care.
I know you're pretty new.
February, you know, it's we're we're looking atend of November now, so you're still in that,
probably, that honeymoon phase, but, you know,what what do you do for your self care to make
sure that you are still sharp?
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So I, I love yoga.
I love music.
Music helps me so much.
If I put on a good song, I can kind of tuneout.
I used to run a lot, but running really helpedget my mind kind of cleared and focused.
And, I've been doing kind of different classes,like, going to sound bowl classes.
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Bowl
the balloon.
So that it sound bath birthday.
While they're
doing a sound bath.
Birthday?
And then that guy?
No.
No.
No.
Oh, I thought you meant I The sound bowl.
Oh, the That oh.
Yes.
That oh.
I thought you meant, like, the guy that playsthe happy birthday song on the little on the
little metal thing.
It's your birthday.
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Your happy birthday.
Have you seen that guy?
That guy's amazing.
I just said, I'm just so entranced.
I was just like, it's your birthday.
I just I don't ever shut whenever I'm flippingthrough, if I'm TikTok ing or if I'm reeling
Yeah.
Or I'm short I'm going through shorts and hecomes across, I'm just like, nope.
I'm a listen
to him.
I listened to
his whole thing as you because he just makes mehappy.
You know?
Yeah.
But I get it.
The I've seen seen the sound bowl at thedifferent Well,
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they're so good.
I think, like, I just get to, like, lay thereand yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yep.
He sounds just like that.
Well, some people say I have per perfect pitch,but yeah.
So
No.
He was good because but it, like, I can justtune out everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's good.
Well, it helps that I have a really nicemicrophone to get that sound out too.
So I'm also someone that so one of the reasonswhy I'm a voice over actor I became a voice
(26:02):
over actor is I'm a mimicker.
I can mimic what I hear.
So, like, when it comes that's why I don't Idon't have perfect pitch in a way that that I
can say that who is c minus or c major.
I don't know that.
I don't I haven't memorized that yet.
However, if I hear it, I can mimic it.
So Cool.
Yeah.
It's really cool when it comes to, like, doingvoices for video games or, you know, character
(26:26):
quizzes.
My first national commercial, I mimicked littlePenny Hardaway from the 19 nineties basketball
commercials.
That was Chris Rock.
So white guy from Ohio mimicking Chris Rock fora commercial for Yahoo, and I got the job.
I'm like, whatever.
But That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
So it it's it's fun.
I love being a voice over actor and and gettingsome of those fun characters and and fun jobs.
(26:49):
But yeah.
So so, yeah, totally.
Back to the bowl thing.
But, yeah, that so oh, what what about, oh mygosh.
I used to do the harmony balls.
Have you ever heard of those or metal?
Yeah.
Oh, that was
a good one.
Yeah.
And they go, those are pretty cool.
Those are pretty cool.
I used to keep them at my bedside, and I'd sitthere and I'd sit there and I'd go to and
because they're so melodic, you know, and andthey had a melody to them.
(27:12):
And you could buy different tones and differentthings.
And it was so I used to do that all the time,plus it helped with dexterity.
So yeah.
So it's it's very similar to that, you know,with the the harmony.
I've wanted to get one of those harmony bowls.
I go to the beach every year.
And one of the stores my my daughter loves togo into, we call it the hippie store.
And it smells like incense when you walk in.
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It's got all these crystals, and I'm like,yeah.
This is cool.
And, and every time on one of their shelves,they have these bowls with the little with the
with the thing.
Yeah.
And I and I'll play with it, and I'm like, man,I wanna I should get one of these.
They're pretty soothing.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's really cool, but I just do a lot ofthat.
I'm like and I like to read.
I like to study a lot of stuff.
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I'm actually back in school right now, sothat's actually, like yeah.
So yeah.
So that's
Well, we're always learning.
Yeah.
The way another key thing for anybody that's inbusiness and and entrepreneurs is Mhmm.
To be an entrepreneur, you have to be aconstant learner.
Mhmm.
You know,
you I mean, I'm back into a sales learning, asales learning program that I've, you know,
(28:14):
I've I've gone through plenty.
I've gone through a couple even, you know, butlike about every 2 years, I'll find a different
system and I'll be like,
oh, you know, $50.
Okay.
I'll listen to what they
have to say.
And so I'll get it, and every time I do one, Iget another little nugget of information that I
can pass on to my own coaching.
You know what I mean?
And through my own, you know, my own business.
So Yeah.
Well, fantastic.
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Yes.
Real quick.
Tell us how to find you.
Tell us how to find your your charity ifanybody wants to donate.
A little bit more maybe about, like, the typeof people that, that like to donate or have
donated in the past and what the you know, Iknow what you I know you mentioned the name of
it, but specifically, if someone has a softspot for, from you know, for supporting that,
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you know, what would you tell someone to, whatyour what your 501c3 supports and whatnot.
Okay.
Thank you.
So we are justice by objectives, and you ifanyone needs any help and assistance through
the criminal justice process, you can give us acall at 435-565 5229, or our website is justice
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dash bidashobjectives.org.
And then, we've had, you know, we've had,grants and, like, different opportunities from
Larry h Miller.
He gave us a wonderful grant.
Then also, you know, Walmart has.
We've had also, couple other other smallersmaller, you know, attorneys have extended out
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donations.
Couple from Idaho, a couple differentorganizations, and those are kind of the people
that have kind of reached out and helped us inthis process.
Well, and I've got somebody else I'm gonnaconnect you with, the the car gal, but also,
one of my previous podcasts, I had someone onthat was falsely imprisoned for 16 years, 17
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years, and he's a 501c3 now, and he's a lawyer.
So I'm gonna connect you.
And I may have actually sent you somethingmaybe early on.
Did.
Yeah.
I think you might have.
So so
that too.
Send out to him.
I gotta Yeah.
No.
I have
to He's he's a great guest, you know, or just,you know, just a good guy to talk to and
whatnot to to see where you could maybepossibly have some synergy because Yeah.
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That's his big thing.
And I just I thought I saw on his Facebook pagein the last month or so, they found they they
he was able to utilize his services and gotsomebody that was falsely accused and got him
free.
So
That's incredible.
Yeah.
That's so incredible.
You know
what I mean?
Our system I definitely you know, I I I believewholly in our system when it comes to the
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people that are convicted to make sure thatthey, you know, pay their debt and whatnot.
But when you're falsely, you know, and andthere's DNA or all that stuff, you know, I, you
know, that's just as justified as the peoplethat actually were guilty, and it's just as
important to make sure that we get it right.
You know?
And, unfortunately, now with technology, we canmaybe go back.
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Like, this gentleman was actually, you know,found not guilty after DNA stuff came about,
and he was, you know, but he lost 16 years ofhis life.
You know?
Mhmm.
And he went in as a 16 year old.
He was coerced.
Yeah.
He's a great oh, great story.
Just a just a I mean, I'm like he almost had mein tears talking about
how Exactly.
Yeah.
Just incredible story and super easy guy totalk to.
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A super nice guy.
I think I can't remember what.
I think he's in Jersey area.
But yeah.
Okay.
Awesome.
Yeah.
I'll definitely reach
out to him.
Connected with him.
I know we've talked about a couple, but yeah.
Yeah.
Like I said, you know, when when you when youwhen you meet as many people as I do when I'm
podcasting, it's like, man, this person'sperfect to talk to this person.
And I don't know where it's gonna go fromthere, but I gotta get it introduced.
So
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No.
I love it.
Alright, Shanae.
Hala.
Hala.
Holla, Beck.
Thank you so much for coming on the IgnitionPath podcast.
I hope it was fun for you.
It was for me to get to know you a little bitbetter and hear about what wonderful things
you're doing for the people that need theservices so bad.
And, you know, just keep up the good work, youknow, and take that self care.
You know, like I said, you know, I've gonethrough my own non self care years.
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And now that I know what self care is, I'veI've definitely, in a much better place.
So don't forget about that for your you know, Iknow you can probably give so much of yourself
in the in inside of this system.
But thanks so much for coming on the UnitionPath Podcast and explaining your 501c3 and
explaining your path through that and theentrepreneurial aspect of it.
And, anything else you'd like to say to say toour listeners?
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Yeah.
Just thank you.
Thank you for having me on here.
It was so much fun.
I I just love chit chatting.
You have a lot of knowledge yourself, and Ijust appreciate it.
And, if anyone yeah.
If anyone even if you're not in the state sowe're in the state of Utah.
If anyone needs help or assistance or resourcesto help navigate peer support, you know, in
other states, we are more than happy to help aswell.
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Okay.
That that's a great that's actually a greatthing to cover is the that you do help other
people from different states.
We do.
So We've been getting a lot from, like, like,Alabama and different places, actually.
So, yeah.
Interesting.
Alright.
Alright, Shanae.
Thank you so much for coming on the MissionPath podcast.
Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share.
And if anything that that you heard during thispodcast, whether it came out of my mouth or her
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mouth, that that resonates with you and someoneelse needs to hear it, don't forget to hit that
little share button.
It's a really easy one on your phone or on yourcomputer.
Just push that off and and share it with them.
So thanks a lot, and talk to you later.
Thank you for listening to Ignition Path,fueling the entrepreneurial fire.
The services that we offer are peer support,family peer support services, and then
advocacy, case management, transportation, andwe provide that to anyone that is experiencing
the criminal justice system.
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Hello, and welcome back to the Ignition Pathpodcast.
I'm your host, Kyle Goodnight.
Before we get too far into it, just make surethat you like, subscribe, and share.
If you hear something during this during thisepisode that really makes you, wanna send to a
friend, don't hesitate.
Hit that share button and, let other peopleknow about this, about this episode.
So today, I have Shanae Holler.
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So, her and I've had a a couple of premeetings, and we go, Shanae, holler.
And she goes She's a holler back.
Holler back, yo.
So with names like ours, we always have tolike, we just have to have fun with them.
Right?
Kyle, good night.
Is it morning yet?
What was the one I got yesterday?
It was a, hey, bad night.
Bad morning is what they called me.
Hey, bad morning.
You know, the 2 opposites.
(01:02):
So not good, but bad.
Not morning, but not yet.
So yeah.
So, you know, it it's, you know, par for thecourse.
We're used to it.
Right?
Yes.
Very much so.
Well, Shanae, thank you so much for coming onthe Ignition Path podcast and, getting ready to
talk about your 501c3 and and how you gotthrough that process and what the
entrepreneurial path that you took during that.
So go ahead, introduce yourself, talk aboutyour background a little bit, what you did
(01:26):
before you were an entrepreneur or if thatstarted at birth, you know, just explain the
path through entrepreneurship, and then we'llget into, specifics about your about your
charity a little bit later.
Okay.
Sounds good.
So my name is Shanae, and I kinda have alwaysbeen, like, in the entrepreneurial kind of
(01:46):
area.
I was in the salon industry and was anaesthetician.
And then after that and so I had an LLC withthat.
And then after that, I started a jewelrybusiness that I did resin art and made jewelry
and kinda did both at the same time, but, youknow, had some some things and things happen.
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And I started, diving into the nonprofit aspectof things because I, started helping
individuals that were experiencing somethingthat I had gone through and I just, it was a
whole different world, the non profit world.
So that's been a really eye opening process forsure compared to the LLC or, you know, the sole
(02:29):
proprietorship, you know, sole proprietorship,you know, anything like that.
So it's been a little bit.
Yeah.
And, you know, I've I'm I'm an LLC personally.
You know, Goodnight Goodnight Voiceovers is aLLC, and then I've got it doing business as GPS
Podcasting Services.
So I've, you know, I've got 2 LLCs, if youwill.
(02:49):
But yeah.
So I don't know much about the nonprofit world.
I wanted to get to know more.
You know, I wanna know if there's, you know,possibly somewhere down the line where I could
make a nonprofit for my, you know, my my firstresponder mental health stuff.
That would be a cool way to, like, be able toprovide it for free once you got, you know,
funding and whatnot.
So tell us a little bit more about your 501c3and, and what it what it is and what it does
(03:13):
and and how, how it how it ties into yourentrepreneur, background.
Yeah.
No.
For sure.
The process was really complicated, actually.
Like, I mean, I wish that I had someone tokinda navigate through that.
I ended up hiring an attorney.
I ended up just because of some of the stuff,especially filing the paperwork with the 501c3
(03:36):
accreditation.
I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't doinganything wrong.
So I found out an amazing agency that, or a lawfirm that specializes in nonprofit, and so they
helped tremendously, because at first, I justdidn't know how to really set up everything,
like, oh, what's the process?
What what do I go through first?
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Which paperwork, you know, business aspects,like, do I, become, incorporated?
Do I do this?
And so it was the navigation that they they'vehelped tremendously through that process.
And then we became 501c3 credited thisFebruary.
And when did you start that process?
So I started it.
I mean, I really didn't like I was doing all ofthe kind of volunteer aspect of things and,
(04:24):
like, all the the work, but not getting paidfor it like a nonprofit does.
But I wasn't actually looking into thepaperwork until a lot of people were advising
me when I was doing when I started the nonprofit and just kind of helping the
incarcerated individuals to, like, I was, like,oh, maybe this should be a business, you know,
and that's when I started being, like, oh, it'sa non profit, I guess, essentially.
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And and then a couple people kinda navigated meand was, like, oh, you should look into this.
And I started asking other organizations, like,what they did or suggested.
And some people, it was just reallyoverwhelming for them and so that's why, like,
I ended up, just doing the attorney attorneyangle, you know, because it was just I didn't
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wanna mess up anything especially
Right.
With it with it being a nonprofit and, with,you know, dealing with a lot of these different
clients, I just didn't wanna mess anything upor do anything that and and especially because
I have dealt with the criminal justice system,I don't wanna do anything illegal.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't wanna do anything.
(05:28):
Dotted and t's are crossed.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I have people that I have not made super happy.
So I just always keep my ducks in a row, makesure everything is, you know, dotted sign good.
So
And it and it provides a layer of protection toyou personally too, doesn't it?
Yeah.
It does.
More so than an LLC.
I
Correct.
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Correct.
The LLC is such an easy process.
But, yeah, I did mine online and had my numberthat same night.
And yeah.
I was like, sweet.
A $100 done.
Got a company.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No.
Exactly.
And then you get that, and then you're all setup.
You know?
And then you just pay on it and and keep thatconsistent.
But with the nonprofit, there's so manydifferent angles.
We gotta have a board
and board.
Yeah.
Exactly.
The board Now
were you on the board as well?
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Or are you okay.
So you can be you can be a board member, butyou can't be, like, the president of the board
since you were the one that initiated it.
Right?
Like
so there's different states have differentlaws.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Every state has a different law, so you wouldjust have to look into and that's why it was
better to have an attorney as well.
Right.
Right.
They could suggest uh-huh.
Suggest Well, I thought it was all
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heard that, like, you can open an a nonprofitin a different state even though you dwell in
another state.
Correct.
That the nonprofit is built in Nevada per se,but I'm in Ohio.
Yep.
So Yeah.
You can do that too.
Yes.
Yeah.
There's so many different things, but I learneda lot because certain states, you can be the
executive director and the president.
(06:50):
Oh, okay.
So it's just it's they Get
a lawyer.
Yeah.
Get a get a firm that specializes in it.
That's that's the common theme.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just because then they can advise you tothe correct roles and, like, responsibilities
for everyone too, you know, and just makingsure that you are doing everything that isn't
gonna harm harm anything in the process,especially because, obviously, it's it's gonna
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be your baby.
Like, you want it to be, you know, somethingthat's gonna be good at the end of the day.
So
Well and, you know, podcasting as much as I'vebeen podcasting, I, you know, I I have 2
podcasts on my own, and I help, you know, 7others do their podcast.
So it's one of those things where I never knewthat podcasting would get me into wanting to
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know more about 501c threes and nonprofits.
But there's quite a bit out there, and it'sactually a fairly smart way to run a business
if there's, you know, if there's a certainpopulation that can't really pay for the
services that you provide.
So talk a little bit about what you provideinside of your 501c3 that you what is the
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specialty that you do to help a a client thatcomes into the comes into the
Okay.
Yeah.
So, all of our services are free.
So and what the services that we offer are peersupport, family peer support services, and then
advocacy, case management, transportation, andwe provide that to anyone that is experiencing
(08:18):
the criminal justice system.
So whether you're incarcerated, whether you'rethe family member, whether you are, you know,
whether you just got a ticket and you don'tknow what to go through.
Just anything with justice related that you areexperiencing, we help navigate.
Housing, we help with too, but that's, I mean,extension of case management.
(08:40):
But, just help set them up for success throughthe process.
Wow.
That's cool.
Yeah.
I just met somebody yesterday, the day before,that has a nonprofit.
Actually, I think she's I had a call with heryesterday, and she's gonna come on my podcast
Friday.
And she's a nonprofit, and what she does is shegets vehicles for single mothers.
(09:04):
So I need to hook
you guys up.
I need to, like, introduce you.
Yeah.
Need that for a lot.
I mean,
my name is
really awesome.
Right here on my calendar.
Cindy well, I won't yeah.
I'll Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
That I mean,
I gotta make sure I mean, I guarantee you, sheI'm oh, I don't I shouldn't say guarantee you.
I am sure that she'll want people to know hername, but
No.
But I yeah.
(09:24):
I would love to have that because that would bea really great
All of it.
I'll put you
guys up.
And that's that's another reason why I podcast.
I would have Yeah.
You know, I would have never been able to putthese 2 together unless I met you a week or 2
ago, and I met her yesterday.
Yeah.
And you're both nonprofits, and and nonprofitsneed other nonprofits sometimes to be inside of
them.
And there's, you know, there's or to be withinthe, you know, the network of them so they can,
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like, oh, you know what?
We really need to help you get a car so you canget to your job, and we've helped you get your
job and helped give you a house.
But, man, we just we can't afford the car now.
But wait a second.
There's a car person I know that we can gothrough their service.
So yeah.
That's sources are the best and, like, wealways we we address them as community
partners.
You know, anyone that's gonna help help ourindividuals through the process is is the best
(10:11):
extension.
So any resource, we're like, please, that youknow, I snatch that up and add that to our list
because it takes a village.
It takes, you know, a whole village to helpsome of these, you know, some of these
individuals.
And what is the name of your nonprofit again?
I I I don't know if we say Justice
by objectives.
Yeah.
Justice by objectives is the name of yournonprofit.
Fantastic.
And all those links for that will be in the inthe notes and stuff where people can go to your
(10:36):
website and read all about it and maybe evendonate, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Always open for donations right now becausethat supports you.
Now, now, you know, when it comes to thebusiness side of a nonprofit, you know, people
people get paid for their services inside ofit.
Talk a little bit about that.
Like like, how do you know, because I've alwaysfelt before I've learned about nonprofits,
(10:59):
there has been some people that have said thatnonprofits are there to kinda hide money or to
pay the wrong like, talk a little bit aboutthat and debunk that for, anybody listening
that says that, you know, nonprofits are justthere to to line the pockets of the people that
are running it.
So, of course, you know, I mean, I I save livesfor a living.
You know?
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I'm a paramedic.
I get paid to do that.
I don't get paid extra.
I don't somebody doesn't pay me more to savetheir life compared to someone else, but but
it's just one of those things where I'm a firmbeliever that, you know you know, my business,
my voice over business, my podcasting business,I provide a service that is top notch, and and,
(11:39):
you know, I get paid for my services.
When I don't get paid for my services, it's notas top notch because there's just not as much.
You may push it off.
It's not as it's not as upfront.
So talk a little bit about when it comes to,you know, having an income from a 501c3 that
you set up and and how that works and what didthey explain to you?
(11:59):
Did you have any questions about that when youfirst started it or or any any, what's the word
I'm looking for?
Not regrets.
Any, reservations of of having that be a partof your income?
So the it really all depends on the grant.
So we're grant funded.
We do donations as well, but really, like, thethe most money that we get is from grants.
(12:23):
And so typically, how we employ an individualor or do anything with within that money is
from whatever is implicated inside of thegrant.
So we can't you know, because we have to extendit all out to that foundation after, a lot of
the times, And it has to be itemized in everysingle detail.
So there is, like,
checks and balances that you report to back tothe IRS every year.
(12:46):
Correct.
Quarterly, what have you.
What is it quarterly or
So, we just started we're we just became 5 1 c3 accredited.
We don't have to end do a 9 90 until thisJanuary.
So this January, we will.
And then after that, yes, quarterly.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Yeah.
So tell us a story about someone that that was,you know, that truly benefited from your
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service that may have been, you know, don't ofcourse, don't say I don't know how HIPAA I'm
I'm involved with HIPAA with medical stuff, soI can tell generalities like, oh, we had a a 22
year old male who overdosed, but I can't sayanything more than that.
You know
what I mean?
I can't say where it was, who he was.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I can't even say if it's amale or female.
But it's one of those things where, you know, Ican use it for training purposes if it's going
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to better my profession and my, you know, mycoworkers, but I can't come home and be like,
hey, listen to this, you know, and tell thewhole story and and give names and and
specifics.
It's all the HIPAA stuff.
So are you bound by some sort of HIPAA thingwhen it comes or some form of HIPAA when it
comes to be able to tell a story about someoneinside of your service that could demonstrate
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exactly what you know, how valuable it is tohave this kind of service out there for for
that individual?
We just can't do we can't discuss names.
And so we also have all of our clients sign,usually some, you know, confidentiality
agreements and just, like, saying, like, we,you know, we might discuss certain things,
like, on our website or we might have this.
If if you're okay with it, Sign this document,you know, and just making sure that they're
(14:18):
okay with everything.
So, yeah, that's how just because we are nottechnically, like, HIPAA with because we're not
medical professionals.
Gotcha.
But there's still, like, a moral
code in
the company.
Okay.
100%.
Gotcha.
And we
still are we still are, I mean, ourcertification is still with the Department of
Health and Human Services.
Okay.
Okay.
Do you
know what I mean?
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It's through the state.
So Yeah.
We're still attached.
There's still a technically HIPAA, but it's,like, different, verbiage, you know?
Okay.
And just making sure that we're not discussingnames, but we can successfully like, their
success stories, especially if they relay thosesuccess stories and give those to us to explain
to them.
But we just leave names out of it, andobviously, we don't attach pictures if they
(15:00):
don't want to be Right.
On anything.
So but, yeah.
Well, tell us one of your success stories thenif
Mhmm.
As as much as you can say, you know, publicly,because this is a public podcast, but Yeah.
And YouTube channel.
But, you know, tell tell us something that thatwas a service that you guys provided, your
501c3s provided, for an individual and and howthat affected their life as a whole.
(15:22):
Do you have any any any back stories like that?
Yeah.
There's one right now.
He just, I'm super proud of him.
He is just doing phenomenal.
You know, he was really struggling and he had asevere mental health condition as well.
He was also experiencing a lot of of theimperfections in the criminal justice system,
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and he also felt like, his race had to dealwith it.
Mhmm.
And it was and I saw a lot of the things thathe was saying.
You know, at first, I thought it could havebeen angle of his schizophrenia.
Just having the paranoia, but just saw a lot ofthings that he was seeing as well.
And so I just, you know, advocated for him andwas there any of his court appointments, going
(16:07):
to housing appointments.
Like, we ended up like, he was homeless.
He had nothing, and but he had an amazing past,like, amazing, like, football scholarship,
like, amazing, amazing things, butschizophrenia kinda took effect on him.
Anyways, he the the help and the support thatwe we provided him, got him housing, as you
(16:32):
know, set up with housing.
So he was, living in an apartment, and then he,you know, got a really good job.
He's now has a job.
He's, you know, taking his medicationsactively.
He's consistently, like, doing therapy.
He's consistently taking on and, like, actuallyverbalizing about, like, the past that, kind of
(16:52):
maybe sent him into some of the psychosis.
You know?
And he's just really understanding who he is asa person, and it's just really cool to see
because he's, like, so proud of himself.
Like, he's, like because he went from beingpart time and now he's, like, guess what?
And calling, you know, and, you know, I havefull time.
You know?
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And it's just really cool to see now, like, hehas a life.
He has a purpose.
He before, like, you could see it in his eyes,like, he's just, like, what's the point?
Like, I'm just gonna go to jail and I'm justgonna do this, but now he's like, I don't want
that to happen.
Like, let's advocate for this.
Like, let's let's oh, I now have a place tolive.
Okay.
Oh, cool.
(17:34):
Now I have a job that's giving me money and andI can actually go out to eat.
I can go do this.
I can hang out with friends.
You can be in person.
I exact you know what?
Exactly.
And it's just so cool because we're the onethat he calls and, you know, when he's having
that good positive thing and it's just thecoolest because he, you can see just a big
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light that goes, goes off on him, especiallywhen he hears those words.
Like, I tried to always extend that out tothat.
Like, I'm so proud of you because some of thesepeople have 0 support.
They don't have a mom or dad that they'retalking to.
They don't have
That's you.
Brother, sister.
They don't have anything.
So you need to give them that They don't
have that.
You
know?
Unit.
Yep.
Nope.
So even when they're doing good, who are theygonna relay it to?
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You know?
So it's really cool to see that we're the onesthat he extends out.
And he's like, you know, wants the high fiveand wants the, you know, kudos because he is.
He's doing fabulous.
He's doing
fantastic work.
Like a you're you're you're kinda like a lifecoach, but you're also like a a facilitator.
So you facilitate things, but is there lifecoaching involved with that as well, or how
(18:39):
does that work?
So peer support
I mean, you said mental health stuff.
So you're not a mental health expert, but youcan guide them to the mental health.
Yeah.
Mental health resources.
So what a peer support is, a peer supportspecialist is someone that, you know, gets
certification.
They do a 40 hour training.
It's all trauma informed.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So they specifically, you know, help with theextending out of the mental health resources.
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With us, We get proper education on, attorneyresources, anything law related resources,
extending that out, but we educate ourselves onthat, but you learn that through your training.
And these, peer support specialists have livedexperience so they have actually gone through
those experiences well.
They just are now in recovery from thoseangles, whether it be a mental health
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condition, whether it be, substance abuse, orcriminal justice involved.
Majority actually have probably all 3, andthen, and then, like, pretty much the people
that we have employed and everything havesimilar, all 3.
You know?
And so so then they can help with any angle ofthat process too.
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Awesome.
Awesome.
Well, that's actually a good segue with talkingabout the mental health stuff.
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They help keep this, this going becauseeverything is, a time and effort.
And like we were talking earlier with Shanaehere that that we do get funded certain ways,
and one of them is a sponsorship for me.
For you, it's donations and grants.
And, someday, maybe, hopefully, with my mentalhealth for, first responders, I run a podcast
on that.
I can maybe tap into Shanae's Shanae'sexpertise and maybe then her get me connected
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to her lawyer too, see how I can do a nonprofitso my first responders can get some stuff that
are because a lot of times, first responders,when their when their back's up against the
wall, they may have already lost their job.
They already may have lost their marriage andall that stuff.
So it's, it it I bring people on my podcastthat have connections in multiple different
webs of stuff and and, learning about a 501c3tonight and and hearing more about it, you
(23:30):
know, just gets my wheels a turn.
It like, okay.
How can this, you know, this possiblyeventually down the line help me and my goals
and my mission that I'm that I'm I'm strivingfor.
So so, Shanae, real quick, when it comes to,when it comes to the the fact that, how much
time?
I'm like, how do you take a vacation from this?
(23:51):
Like like, when do you have your time?
Like, because we because we know that we Imean, everybody like, the the self work that
I've gone through and and when I hit my walland I needed I learned self care and and how
important that is.
What do you do for your own self care inside ofa 501c3 that that is so emotionally draining at
times and physically draining?
(24:12):
I'm sure.
It sounds like you just you give all ofyourself to these folks that come into the
system.
Like, what do you do for yourself?
Like like, talk me through a little bit aboutabout how you do your own self care.
I know you're pretty new.
February, you know, it's we're we're looking atend of November now, so you're still in that,
probably, that honeymoon phase, but, you know,what what do you do for your self care to make
sure that you are still sharp?
(24:34):
So I, I love yoga.
I love music.
Music helps me so much.
If I put on a good song, I can kind of tuneout.
I used to run a lot, but running really helpedget my mind kind of cleared and focused.
And, I've been doing kind of different classes,like, going to sound bowl classes.
(24:54):
Bowl
the balloon.
So that it sound bath birthday.
While they're
doing a sound bath.
Birthday?
And then that guy?
No.
No.
No.
Oh, I thought you meant I The sound bowl.
Oh, the That oh.
Yes.
That oh.
I thought you meant, like, the guy that playsthe happy birthday song on the little on the
little metal thing.
It's your birthday.
(25:14):
Your happy birthday.
Have you seen that guy?
That guy's amazing.
I just said, I'm just so entranced.
I was just like, it's your birthday.
I just I don't ever shut whenever I'm flippingthrough, if I'm TikTok ing or if I'm reeling
Yeah.
Or I'm short I'm going through shorts and hecomes across, I'm just like, nope.
I'm a listen
to him.
I listened to
his whole thing as you because he just makes mehappy.
You know?
Yeah.
But I get it.
The I've seen seen the sound bowl at thedifferent Well,
(25:36):
they're so good.
I think, like, I just get to, like, lay thereand yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yep.
He sounds just like that.
Well, some people say I have per perfect pitch,but yeah.
So
No.
He was good because but it, like, I can justtune out everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's good.
Well, it helps that I have a really nicemicrophone to get that sound out too.
So I'm also someone that so one of the reasonswhy I'm a voice over actor I became a voice
(26:02):
over actor is I'm a mimicker.
I can mimic what I hear.
So, like, when it comes that's why I don't Idon't have perfect pitch in a way that that I
can say that who is c minus or c major.
I don't know that.
I don't I haven't memorized that yet.
However, if I hear it, I can mimic it.
So Cool.
Yeah.
It's really cool when it comes to, like, doingvoices for video games or, you know, character
(26:26):
quizzes.
My first national commercial, I mimicked littlePenny Hardaway from the 19 nineties basketball
commercials.
That was Chris Rock.
So white guy from Ohio mimicking Chris Rock fora commercial for Yahoo, and I got the job.
I'm like, whatever.
But That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
So it it's it's fun.
I love being a voice over actor and and gettingsome of those fun characters and and fun jobs.
(26:49):
But yeah.
So so, yeah, totally.
Back to the bowl thing.
But, yeah, that so oh, what what about, oh mygosh.
I used to do the harmony balls.
Have you ever heard of those or metal?
Yeah.
Oh, that was
a good one.
Yeah.
And they go, those are pretty cool.
Those are pretty cool.
I used to keep them at my bedside, and I'd sitthere and I'd sit there and I'd go to and
because they're so melodic, you know, and andthey had a melody to them.
(27:12):
And you could buy different tones and differentthings.
And it was so I used to do that all the time,plus it helped with dexterity.
So yeah.
So it's it's very similar to that, you know,with the the harmony.
I've wanted to get one of those harmony bowls.
I go to the beach every year.
And one of the stores my my daughter loves togo into, we call it the hippie store.
And it smells like incense when you walk in.
(27:32):
It's got all these crystals, and I'm like,yeah.
This is cool.
And, and every time on one of their shelves,they have these bowls with the little with the
with the thing.
Yeah.
And I and I'll play with it, and I'm like, man,I wanna I should get one of these.
They're pretty soothing.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's really cool, but I just do a lot ofthat.
I'm like and I like to read.
I like to study a lot of stuff.
(27:53):
I'm actually back in school right now, sothat's actually, like yeah.
So yeah.
So that's
Well, we're always learning.
Yeah.
The way another key thing for anybody that's inbusiness and and entrepreneurs is Mhmm.
To be an entrepreneur, you have to be aconstant learner.
Mhmm.
You know,
you I mean, I'm back into a sales learning, asales learning program that I've, you know,
(28:14):
I've I've gone through plenty.
I've gone through a couple even, you know, butlike about every 2 years, I'll find a different
system and I'll be like,
oh, you know, $50.
Okay.
I'll listen to what they
have to say.
And so I'll get it, and every time I do one, Iget another little nugget of information that I
can pass on to my own coaching.
You know what I mean?
And through my own, you know, my own business.
So Yeah.
Well, fantastic.
(28:35):
Yes.
Real quick.
Tell us how to find you.
Tell us how to find your your charity ifanybody wants to donate.
A little bit more maybe about, like, the typeof people that, that like to donate or have
donated in the past and what the you know, Iknow what you I know you mentioned the name of
it, but specifically, if someone has a softspot for, from you know, for supporting that,
(28:57):
you know, what would you tell someone to, whatyour what your 501c3 supports and whatnot.
Okay.
Thank you.
So we are justice by objectives, and you ifanyone needs any help and assistance through
the criminal justice process, you can give us acall at 435-565 5229, or our website is justice
(29:22):
dash bidashobjectives.org.
And then, we've had, you know, we've had,grants and, like, different opportunities from
Larry h Miller.
He gave us a wonderful grant.
Then also, you know, Walmart has.
We've had also, couple other other smallersmaller, you know, attorneys have extended out
(29:46):
donations.
Couple from Idaho, a couple differentorganizations, and those are kind of the people
that have kind of reached out and helped us inthis process.
Well, and I've got somebody else I'm gonnaconnect you with, the the car gal, but also,
one of my previous podcasts, I had someone onthat was falsely imprisoned for 16 years, 17
(30:08):
years, and he's a 501c3 now, and he's a lawyer.
So I'm gonna connect you.
And I may have actually sent you somethingmaybe early on.
Did.
Yeah.
I think you might have.
So so
that too.
Send out to him.
I gotta Yeah.
No.
I have
to He's he's a great guest, you know, or just,you know, just a good guy to talk to and
whatnot to to see where you could maybepossibly have some synergy because Yeah.
(30:29):
That's his big thing.
And I just I thought I saw on his Facebook pagein the last month or so, they found they they
he was able to utilize his services and gotsomebody that was falsely accused and got him
free.
So
That's incredible.
Yeah.
That's so incredible.
You know
what I mean?
Our system I definitely you know, I I I believewholly in our system when it comes to the
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people that are convicted to make sure thatthey, you know, pay their debt and whatnot.
But when you're falsely, you know, and andthere's DNA or all that stuff, you know, I, you
know, that's just as justified as the peoplethat actually were guilty, and it's just as
important to make sure that we get it right.
You know?
And, unfortunately, now with technology, we canmaybe go back.
(31:12):
Like, this gentleman was actually, you know,found not guilty after DNA stuff came about,
and he was, you know, but he lost 16 years ofhis life.
You know?
Mhmm.
And he went in as a 16 year old.
He was coerced.
Yeah.
He's a great oh, great story.
Just a just a I mean, I'm like he almost had mein tears talking about
how Exactly.
Yeah.
Just incredible story and super easy guy totalk to.
(31:35):
A super nice guy.
I think I can't remember what.
I think he's in Jersey area.
But yeah.
Okay.
Awesome.
Yeah.
I'll definitely reach
out to him.
Connected with him.
I know we've talked about a couple, but yeah.
Yeah.
Like I said, you know, when when you when youwhen you meet as many people as I do when I'm
podcasting, it's like, man, this person'sperfect to talk to this person.
And I don't know where it's gonna go fromthere, but I gotta get it introduced.
So
(31:55):
No.
I love it.
Alright, Shanae.
Hala.
Hala.
Holla, Beck.
Thank you so much for coming on the IgnitionPath podcast.
I hope it was fun for you.
It was for me to get to know you a little bitbetter and hear about what wonderful things
you're doing for the people that need theservices so bad.
And, you know, just keep up the good work, youknow, and take that self care.
You know, like I said, you know, I've gonethrough my own non self care years.
(32:18):
And now that I know what self care is, I'veI've definitely, in a much better place.
So don't forget about that for your you know, Iknow you can probably give so much of yourself
in the in inside of this system.
But thanks so much for coming on the UnitionPath Podcast and explaining your 501c3 and
explaining your path through that and theentrepreneurial aspect of it.
And, anything else you'd like to say to say toour listeners?
(32:41):
Yeah.
Just thank you.
Thank you for having me on here.
It was so much fun.
I I just love chit chatting.
You have a lot of knowledge yourself, and Ijust appreciate it.
And, if anyone yeah.
If anyone even if you're not in the state sowe're in the state of Utah.
If anyone needs help or assistance or resourcesto help navigate peer support, you know, in
other states, we are more than happy to help aswell.
(33:03):
Okay.
That that's a great that's actually a greatthing to cover is the that you do help other
people from different states.
We do.
So We've been getting a lot from, like, like,Alabama and different places, actually.
So, yeah.
Interesting.
Alright.
Alright, Shanae.
Thank you so much for coming on the MissionPath podcast.
Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share.
And if anything that that you heard during thispodcast, whether it came out of my mouth or her
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Thank you for listening to Ignition Path,fueling the entrepreneurial fire.
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