Resilience and Reinvention: Dwayne Morton's Journey Through Challenges to Empowerment

Kyle Goodknight introduces Dwayne Morton, who shares his compelling journey from a misdiagnosis to entrepreneurship. Dwayne discusses his transition to becoming a speaker and the role podcasting played in his personal growth and networking. The conversation explores Dwayne's passion for baseball, the mental resilience required during his misdiagnosis, and his experiences with judgment and disability. Dwayne delves into the impact of a shooting incident, legal challenges, and mentorship. He reflects on self-discovery through the 7 layers deep exercise, missed opportunities, and his basketball career. The episode concludes with insights into Dwayne's new perspective on life, his focus on business and relationship building, and his Show Up To Win program.

Episode Transcript

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You've asked if I was, like, in jubilation ornot.
I was, like, I didn't understand.
You know, that was the only thing
this 18 years.
Like
Exactly.
I was, like, are you sure?
That was my first question to the doctor was,are you sure?
It wasn't like, oh, hallelujah.
I'm I'm saved.
No.
I was like, are you sure?
Like, I've been doing this for all this time.

(00:22):
Yeah.
Are you really sure?
Alright.
We are live.
At least that's what it's saying.
It's my first time live.
Welcome to Ignition Path Podcast.
My name is Kyle Goodnight, and, this is myfirst live for Ignition Path.
I'm trying to see where it's at in the world.

(00:45):
I don't know if it's, posting to anywhere yet.
I'm kind of keeping track of it on my otherscreen here.
But I've got Dwayne Morton with me tonight to,come on and test out this live.
It did say, Dwayne, when I when I clicked onlive, it said one of them was not available,
and I believe it's my Instagram.
I don't think I have my Instagram set upproperly.

(01:07):
But that's okay.
That's why we're doing this.
We're just try we're messing around and tryingto figure it out.
Dwayne, what's going on, man?
Man, a lot of really cool stuff.
A lot of cool projects I have.
Most of them, I cannot speak about.
Right.
I know.
We've we've been talking about them offline.
We're not gonna go flick with it.

(01:27):
First of all, tell everybody who you are, whatyou do, and, and, what you're you know, I see
down here on your your name here, Show Up toWin.
We talked about that.
What a great name for, potentially your podcastthat we're talking about.
Oh, was I allowed to say
that?
Yeah.
You can go ahead and say that part.
I mean,
yeah.
It it was kinda supposed to be kept in wraps,but we'll we'll let it go.

(01:48):
We'll see.
We he's not settled on a name yet and or a or atime frame, but it's coming.
Right.
Absolutely.
It's definitely coming.
So I'm Dwayne Wharton.
I'm a former international basketball playerwho has been through a couple of really tough
challenges.
And so, I've been able to overcome them.

(02:09):
And so that's how I came up with the programShow Up To Win.
And so the two challenges were a policeshooting that I was a bystander that happened 3
years ago.
And then, being diagnosed for 18 years and thensuddenly find out, March of last year that,
hey, just kidding.
You're just misdiagnosed and you have sleepapnea.

(02:32):
So just kinda get my life back together andyeah.
Exactly.
How long
how long were you diagnosed with blood cancer?
Oh, man.
It was 18 years.
18 years.
18 years.
Yeah.
There's a lot of lot of life, man.
A lot of life that, but here you know, here'sthe thing, Kyle, is that I'm in such a good

(02:53):
place.
I'm not really as worried about it as like howyou would think I would be.
I'm really just into this spot where I'm justtrying to worry about thriving rather than just
surviving.
And so for those 18 years, I was justsurviving.
But now I'm really looking yeah.
So now I'm looking to thrive.
Like, I'm looking for business deals andsponsorships for podcast.

(03:15):
There you go.
I mentioned a podcast again.
Now it's now it's not all on me.
Yeah.
Right.
It's not all on you this time.
And then, my signature program show up to win.
Like, it's gonna be my it's my blood, sweat,tears, man.
That's awesome.
If if I had to go through all of this to havethis program and to make the impact I believe

(03:37):
I'll be able to make, it's all gonna be worthit.
I was, one thing I'll tell you that I don'tthink I've told you before is, I've been told I
was a really good speaker when I was younger.
Like, 19, 20 years old.
Like, hey.
You should be a speaker.
I was like, I don't wanna speak.

(03:57):
Why would I do that?
What do I got to say?
Exactly.
I was just just real quiet person.
Just didn't have like, I didn't I had a lot tosay, but I would only say it to my friends.
Like and I the other thing is I didn't believethere would be anyone that would be wanting to
listen.
And so yeah.
And You know,

(04:17):
and that's that was a little bit of mychallenge when I first started podcasting.
I started podcasting originally for with withsomeone who hired me to do voice over work.
Right?
And for their intros and outros, and then he'slike, hey.
You need to come on and be a guest.
You know?
You you got a lot of good insights, and, youknow, let's let's create a new podcast for
sports.
And I was like, no.

(04:38):
I don't wanna be a I don't wanna be a host.
And and and this was, like, 5 years ago.
We were doing video podcast even back thenbefore, like, they're really getting popular
now.
And so I always felt that video is even 5 yearsago, video is king.
I mean, YouTube proves that.
But, it was one of those things where they gotme on as a cohost.

(04:59):
We started having fun, and then I learned moreand more, and then I helped somebody else with
the podcast and was a cohost with them andlearned a little bit more.
And then, you know, eventually, I got to thepoint where my podcasting, days were pretty
much, I thought, over, and I was creating acourse for mental health with the first
responders.
And I I kind of something at the back of me wassaying I wasn't doing enough.

(05:24):
And and so I was like, crap.
I can start a podcast about this and invitepeople on to talk about first responders, talk
about, you know, mental health, talk aboutprocedures, talk about talk about,
you know,
anything that would help not in therapies, forlack of better terms, and or different options
to deal with our mental health as firstresponders, and it took off.

(05:46):
And there's, you know we're we're possiblygetting ready to rebrand that one soon.
More more news to come on that.
And then, and then the Ignition Path podcastto, you know, to spread my wings for my
business, which is podcast production and voiceover work, and I've been doing that now.
And I met you through a networking event withsomeone else that introduced us.

(06:08):
I think it was Michelle, who introduced me to,I think, 85 people that night.
And that was all online through FacebookMessenger, not at a real place, not at 1 on 1
with each other.
But, nonetheless, you and I met and hit it off.
We got a a good sports background.
There's somebody I need to introduce you to.
I think it'd be he would be a great guest onhis podcast, dude, to talk about sports.

(06:30):
It's my buddy Paul, or my cousin-in-law, Ishould say.
My my wife's cousin, his her husband, he runs aparanormal podcast, which is really cool.
And it's a he goes live, like, 2 times a weekon that, and he just kicked back up his sports,
live podcast that goes live every Monday night.
It was live a couple hours ago.
So I'll definitely hook you up with him and getyou on there because Absolutely.

(06:53):
Yeah.
I mean, he doesn't he he's not a big basketballfan, but you know what?
That's why you would come on.
You'd be a specialist.
You know?
Absolutely.
Well, that's the thing is, like, I also I'm areally big baseball fan.
Oh, really?
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I'm just kidding.
I But I'm just saying, like, I've always been areally big baseball fan.
Honestly, Kyle, that's actually where it got memore into the mental part of the game.

(07:15):
Right.
Was the baseball and the pitching.
The pitching and catching part.
There's such a big chess game every time.
Oh, I bet.
Every batter and stuff like that.
And so I think that's actually part of where Istarted picking up on the mental part.
Right.
That's yeah.
I mean, I loved playing softball back in theday.

(07:37):
I you know, I was a decent baseball fan back inhigh school and college, but, you know, it
wasn't one of those things where, baseball wasanything that I died for, you know.
And Right.
I probably should have started playing baseballwhen I was younger because I was really good at
batting for softball, at least.
I know it's a different speed and whatnot, butI always had good and and I can hit a golf ball

(08:00):
pretty far too.
I've got that good, hand speed or that thatclub speed as they call it or bat speed.
I've always had good bat speed and club speed.
I had, you know, home run power when it came tosoftball, and I'm not a very big guy.
I'm like 5:10, you know.
I mean, I'm not muscular.
I just had good, you know.
And then I think it came from throwing discusas a track, track guy in high school.

(08:21):
That that that actually makes sense because ofyou using Yep.
The flexibility and stuff like that.
So I played you modest off.
Your body up.
I mean, I knew how to wind my body up, andthat's all it is when it comes and and and how
to explode.
You know, like when you're throwing a discus,you wind your body up and then you explode.
And that whole golfing is an explosion, andthat all those those muscles have that

(08:44):
explosion power.
And when it came to softball and and and golf,I've I mean, if I can hit my with my ball if I
can hit my golf ball straight, I can I canpretty much outdrive anybody any one of my
friends, including those that are, like, 6 4and have clubs that are ginormous?
Yeah.
Well, you you the whole thing is is you knowhow to use your core.

(09:05):
Yeah.
That's that's the thing with that sport.
So with softball, Kyle, I actually know a lotof really good softball players.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I mean, like people that actually played likeupper level, like professional.
Yes.
Wow.
There's a lot of people in Kentucky that inTennessee that play a lot of that, you know,
get flown around and stuff like that.

(09:26):
I don't know how it works anymore.
Oh, yeah.
I don't either.
There's a lot of that stuff here in Ohio too,but I'm not that level at all.
No.
No.
No.
But my friends are.
That's the thing.
I was just saying that my friends are.
And then we played in a a city league where wedestroyed everybody.
Shout out to the misfits softball.
So
My my my softball team was called Da Boyz, d ab o y z.

(09:51):
That was my college my college softball teamthat I put together in my local town.
Yeah.
That was we gosh.
There was so much we had so much fun doingthat.
So much fun.
Oh, yeah.
That's I miss it.
I can't throw.
I can't throw now.
I ever since my shoulder surgeries, I can'tthrow.
So I'd have to be, like, I'd have to, like Icould probably pitch, but if a ball was hit
back to me, I'd have to underhand throw it to1st base.

(10:13):
I couldn't I couldn't like, I used to be ableto throw people out from, you know, outfield,
but I can't do that anymore.
Right.
So how's our live going?
It's going.
I'm just that's what I'm looking at.
We're finally live over here.
It's it it had a little bit of a lag until itgot shown, but it's on YouTube.
Cool.
It is not on Facebook.

(10:34):
That's not connected.
So yeah.
Congratulations
on your first live going.
Woo hoo.
Yeah.
I got I think I've got one watching, which Ithink is me, on my other monitor.
Nice.
Doesn't matter.
You gotta start somewhere.
Right?
You can't climb to the top if you don't startat the bottom.
Right.
Yeah.
No.
Like, I think what's beautiful about podcastingis just being able to have a conversation from

(10:58):
anywhere in the world with someone.
And meet people, like, that you would have notnormally met.
You know?
I met this lady today out in LA.
Oh my god.
It's supposed to be a half an hour meeting.
We talked for, like, almost 2 hours.
We just had so much in common.
She's 70 years old.
She was so sharp.
I'm like, she's gonna start podcasting.
It's so great.
You know?
And I'm sitting there talking.
We're just we're we're sharing ideas and comingup with things and creating, and I'm like, this

(11:22):
is so cool.
I can't wait to have her come on my podcast.
Yeah.
So for me, it's like I've been having I've I'veguested on a couple of people from, like,
overseas and stuff.
And Mhmm.
It's just like sitting in the living room andhaving a conversation with them.
It's it's amazing, like, what technology isable to do now.
Yeah.

(11:42):
Exactly.
Well, too, you know, and someone for someonelike yourself who's kinda and and, like, you
know, not to get too personal here because, youknow, definitely stop me if we start to.
But, you know, when I first met you, we kindashared each other's stories.
You kinda know my backstory and kinda know alittle bit of your backstory.
Yeah.
And just, you know, to know what you wentthrough with with the, you know, the blood

(12:02):
cancer and and the well, blood cancer or blooddisease.
Which one?
No.
So it was a blood disease that turns into ablood cancer.
Okay.
I'm like,
it never just got classified.
Right.
And that makes sense.
They never classified it.
Right.
Right.
But all all everybody that I was around waslike, it's a blood cancer.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Well, when you first told me that story andthen you told me, you're like, oh, that's

(12:24):
horrible.
But then you were like, yeah.
I was misdiagnosed for 18 years.
I'm like, oh my god.
That's that's horrible.
And then and and and where that can take you,not only through the process of knowing that
you have a, you know, impending doom bloodcancer, that I can't even imagine, you know, I
can't even imagine what mental state you werein during all of that, and then to come find
out that you're misdiagnosed, then what kind ofmental status that had on you.

(12:49):
You know what I mean?
And for you to podcast and get out there and dowhat you're doing and wanna help others, that
just you know, is that part of what you'redoing for, like, healing yourself, is to share
with others?
Or, like like, talk a little bit about that.
That's a really good question.
And, Kyle, I don't think I've been asked thatquestion either.
That's kinda funny.
Well, I'm pretty good at interviews.

(13:10):
No.
I'm just Right.
No.
But so I think it has been therapeutic, But Ifeel like it's also given me a chance to let
people know where my mindset was even in myworst spot.
And like, I've had people who were like, youdidn't seem like you had that mindset.
And I was like, no.
Because you didn't understand.
I was planning for a future without having afuture.

(13:33):
Like, but I was planning for a legacy.
Yeah.
Because I knew that I was going to pass away.
I wanted something for other people to takeaway.
Mhmm.
And that was a struggle.
The struggle wasn't the struggle wasn't justthat part.
The struggle was I had to get a handicapparking tech.
Like, I I had struggles going and gettinggroceries.

(13:57):
Like, these are real struggles that likeeveryday people.
I I can I I will share this one story?
I, I went to Kroger one time.
Parked at a handicap parking tag, but put theput the tag up, got up, got out of the car, and
the lady threw a Campbell's can at me.

(14:18):
And was like
But you threw it at you.
What do you mean?
Yeah.
No.
Like, she out of her buggy, took a Campbell oflike a a can of like Campbell's Soup and threw
it at me.
Like chunked it at me.
Fuck.
Yes.
But that's because I look dude, I was athleticlooking still for like Okay.
The whole time.

(14:38):
Like that's the whole thing.
I did not look unhealthy.
But dude, I could not go I couldn't walk aroundthe grocery store by myself, like, without
just, like, losing my breath.
Like, that's the thing is, like,
breathing like So what was it make thatmisdiagnosed as then?
So it was it was just so the name of what I waswas polycythemia.

(15:01):
But they were going to say that I was gonnahave it very quickly because of the way by so
my blood cells were extremely, they wereextremely big.
I can't think of the other word for it, butthey were enlarged.
They were extremely enlarged.
They would keep asking me if I had donesteroids.

(15:22):
And I was
like, no.
I'm looking it up right now.
It's abnormally high number of red blood cells.
I'm medical, so, you know, I've never heard ofthat before.
So but I understand, like, medical terminologyfor the most part.
So yeah.
So it's a abnormally high number of red bloodcells, which probably could lead to clotting
disorders and so many other things.
Exactly.
So here's the other part.
This is the way it was

(15:43):
the blood.
Yeah.
This is the way it was described to me is thinkabout a barge down the river.
If there's, like, 2 or 3 wide, it can stillflow pretty well.
But mine was, like, 10 wide.
Yeah.
So it like
Clank clank clank clank clank clank.
Right.
But also, here's another thing.
At 29 years old, I was starting to, like, havememory lapses.

(16:03):
Mhmm.
Because
the oxygen wasn't getting into my butt into mybrain.
Yeah.
Fatigue, headache, dizziness, shortness ofbreath, redness of skin.
Did you have that?
A little bit.
Itchy.
But it was mostly, like, in my chest.
I didn't get the itching as much,
but no.
There was a clot easily.
Okay.
Yep.
So I was diagnosed with that where all I hadwas sleep apnea.

(16:24):
You know?
Think about that.
So okay.
So so this wasn't actually happening to you,but this is what they pegged you as.
So did you have to get, like, blood work allthe time and all that good stuff?
So so I did go get blood work.
My my treatment, thank God, was not anypharmaceuticals.
It was, phlebotomies and just basically bloodbloodletting.

(16:47):
But it was very frequently.
Like, I was gonna say like, but you can likesee the scar like right now.
Probably not on camera.
But like Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It looked like I was like a junkie.
Like I had someone like, hey man, you look likeyou just shot up.
I was like, no.
I just had blood, like, drawn, like, yesterday,and I just had it, like, 2 like, a week ago.

(17:09):
So but that's that's the thing, man.
It's like, Kyle, we just don't really know.
We we judge so much.
As humans?
Is that what you're saying?
It's just humans in general.
And so that's the thing is, man, there's somuch like, so many people were thinking like,
oh, you're like but I wasn't.
I was just the other thing is too is this isthe this is the other part.

(17:32):
When people talk about, like responsibility andownership of it.
Like I take responsibility, ownership of all ofmy stuff.
But like everything that's happened to me hasnever been my fault.
I mean, so that is very difficult when you'renot able to say, okay, I chose this.

(17:56):
Right.
Right.
I didn't choose I didn't choose it.
I didn't choose the other shooting either.
So that was the other part.
And so I get asked that all the all the time.
Yeah.
We'll we'll get into that.
I that's dude.
And you didn't tell me that story the firsttime I met either.
And then I like you're like you said somethingabout when you were going on podcast and that
you were talking about the shooting.

(18:16):
I'm like, you never say anything aboutshooting.
That'd be a pretty important thing to talkabout.
So Yeah.
So
Yeah.
We'll we'll get into that.
We'll get into that.
We can dive into that too, but, like, so that'sthe thing is I was dealing with that, and then
that happened.
Yeah.
Oh, you were dealing with the misdiagnosis andthen that happened.
I was still dealing with the diagnosis.

(18:37):
With their diagnosis.
I was just misdiagnosed in, it's, 11 monthsago.
Wow.
It
hasn't even been a full year yet.
So Yes.
Okay.
I've got I mean, my medical doctors won't likethis question.
But so are you suing anybody?
I mean, are you, like, the word So the Is thereany miss is there any malpractice involved with

(19:00):
this?
Dude, I have talked to attorneys and they'relike, I would be suing and I would be taking
$10 to get 6 or $8 back.
It doesn't make sense financially.
Okay.
But also guess what?
Here's the other aspect of it is the, theperson who would get paid first is the
insurance company because they did, falsifiedclaims.

(19:23):
They did?
No.
I mean, like I'm just saying the insurancecompanies would get first dibs on the money if
I sue.
They get first part of the money because theypaid
falsified claims.
Because they paid for all that stuff with thefalsified claims from the other people.
I gotcha.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Wow.
Interesting.
Crazy.

(19:43):
You know, I was dude, I was I was extremelylucky.
I've I've had some really good mentors thatreally helped me kinda keep my stuff together.
But like Yeah.
No.
If it wasn't for mentors, I wouldn't be whereI'm at.
No.
So so, Kyle, I've ever I don't know if I'veever told you, but, like, my mentor in
Louisville was mentored by Jim Rohn.

(20:04):
Nice.
Yes.
Yeah.
I think you mentioned that one of the firsttimes we talked, but that's that's really cool
because, you know, you know, we all learn stufffrom different people, and and I was even I was
held I was on a call earlier tonight, and I wasthis this lady's trying to get, you know, her
business slash passion off the ground at 70years old.

(20:24):
I mentioned that earlier.
And we started diving deep into because shecouldn't find her niche.
And I'm like she was, I wanna help everybody.
I'm like, no no no no no.
You yes.
That's the goal, but you gotta start somewhere.
You gotta you gotta start someplace small, andyou have to think of who is that finite niche.
You have to have that, like, dive deep intoyour whys.

(20:45):
And I put her through, what they call the 7steps of I can't it was from from Tony Robbins
or something, but there's there's a path thatyou can ask questions, like, up to 7 times.
Oh, the 7 steps.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you're like, the 7 degrees.
7 degrees.
7 degrees.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So and it's really honestly, all it is is afteryou ask the first question and they start

(21:07):
talking, once they're done with that thatthought, it's, well, why?
Essentially, like, okay, and then you takesomething out of that why and say, okay, dive
deeper on this word, and then they dive deeperon that word.
And by the typically by the time you get donewith the 5th or 6th step, you're in tears.
And when you get to 7 or 8, you know, sometimesit goes longer than 8, but by the time you get

(21:29):
to those lower levels where you've really foundout your why and your passion, you're like
you're just you're just like, oh my god.
I gotta do this.
You know?
It's like I mean, I know that they put methrough it when I was going through their
program, and and it's just like, man, I know mywhy now.
You know?
And and it's and sometimes you find find outyour why, and then you go produce you go you
go, you know, start to strive for it, and thenyou've then you get someone that says, well,

(21:53):
let's let's do the 7 layers again.
And you're like, I've already done the severallayers.
Like, but let's do it again.
And you do it again and you find out thatthere's even a deeper passion lower, and then
that really drives you.
So
Yeah.
No.
The so I believe that that is a really greatmodality for just anything.

(22:15):
Mhmm.
It's just take it 7 layers deep.
Anything.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean think about it because the number 7 ispretty powerful anyway.
Oh, huge.
Yeah.
Right.
Very powerful.
Right.
And and you take
that I've got a neurologist that came on one ofmy shows and I said, tell me more about the
number 7.
She's like, you don't have enough time.
No.

(22:35):
Right.
But but also here's the thing, Kyle, is thatyou're you're doing it so many times that
you're breaking it down and you're having tobreak it down to even more complex.
And then it's like turns into more complex.
Because you're like, oh, that's also thereason.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's like a snowball.
I mean, it's it's with anything.
Right?
Snowball effect.
Yeah.

(22:56):
It's it's what they think.
So if someone asked me why I love basketball,well, I played as a kid.
Okay.
Cool.
Well, why'd you play as a kid?
Why'd you really do?
I was by myself.
Right?
Yeah.
Well, why were you by yourself?
Well, mom and dad worked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you go deeper, deeper.
I was
at my grandparents.
Yeah.
See, it just keeps on rolling.
And so that's the thing is when you really canget into those type of conversations, that's
where it gets very deep.
Yeah.
It gets it gets more intense too.

(23:18):
And that you know, when you mentioned Jim Rohn,your mentors Jim Rohn was a mentor of Jim
Rohn's.
You know, this lady who I was talking with,she's like, oh my god, Kyle.
You're so you're so amazing.
I've never you know, I've I've had so manypeople that I've talked to, and and they've,
you know, they've you just got so much informI'm like, this is not my information.
I'm just regurgitating it.
But that's what our mentors do.
You know?
That's that's the point I'm trying to get to isis we take what we learn from our mentors and

(23:43):
we put it into our own life, and then weregurgitate it in a way that someone can, you
know, feel like, you if you if you trulylearned what your mentor taught you, when you
try to teach it or explain it to someone new,they think it's yours.
And you're, like, no.
Hold on.
It's not mine.
Like, maybe a little aspect of or a story ismine, but the concept is not mine.

(24:05):
And and that's what's great about mentors is iswe learn from some such great mentors, and we
just take a piece of them, and then we givemore pieces to other people when we pass on
what we learned.
Yep.
So the thing is, is the lesson is, when you'reable to teach it, that's when you truly learn
it.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Yep.
Well, we got we got our first chat.
We got Nicholas Comstock is on the chat.
What's up?
Fantastic.
So Nicholas is a another client of mine,becoming a very good friend of mine locally
here in Columbus.
And, he's a disabled individual who was toldthat he would never live on his own, never have

(24:46):
a relationship, and never hold a job.
So, he met me and we started talking aboutstuff, and I said, hey, you have a really cool
story.
Would you wanna do a podcast?
He's like, oh my gosh.
I've been told so many times, but I don't knowhow to do it.
He's legally blind.
This is all stuff that Nicholas and I havetalked about.
We he's he's one of those guys that he doesn'twant anybody to feel pity for him.

(25:11):
He is a funny motherfucker.
He really is.
He cracks me up every time I talk to him.
He has such a great sense of humor and justjust just we just hit it off the first time we
ever met.
And he's a great guy.
I love him to death.
And, and, you're gonna everybody's gonna beseeing more about Nicholas soon.
He's gonna come on my podcast probably I'vetold him that I don't want him to come on a

(25:32):
normal podcast.
I want him to come on as a live like we'redoing now, Dwayne.
So so we will have Nicholas on as a livesomeday, and you'll everybody will get to meet
him.
So I understand a lot what what Nicholas issaying.
Like, he doesn't want people to, like, to pityhim.
Like, all those type of things are what I wasdoing.
I mean so I think it's very important tounderstand why these people are like that.

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Why we're like that.
Yeah.
And so for him to have a podcast is actually areally
Oh, it's given him so I mean, he'll tell you.
It's given him so much.
He feels worthy.
He that's one of the words he used with me onetime.
He's like, I'm doing this he was like onlymaybe 2 or 3 episodes in.
He's like, you don't understand, Kyle, howempowering this is.

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That's the word, empowering.
He's like, this is so he feels like, I feellike I finally have a voice.
And, you know, he his big claim is he he stateswhat does he state in his podcast?
He says he he's a mentally, or physicallydisabled, but mentally enabled.
And that's exactly what he is.
And, you know, family members have written himoff.

(26:35):
Luckily, he has one family member that's verysupportive.
But, you know, it's one of those things wherejust the stories that he tells me of
caregivers, of their some some some caregivers,their neglect, and then teaching caregivers how
to care give better.
Like he actually did a class on that, and heactually has a he he wants to write an ebook on

(26:56):
on caregiving, and I'm like, yeah, let's do it,you know.
So it should we've got so many ideas for him.
He's he's he's gonna be in a book, He's gonnahave a chapter in a in a conglomerate book
that's gonna be, out there in the world, sowe'll be able to talk about that.
I'll probably have him on a couple times,especially when that that book gets to be
stuff, promoted.
Yeah.
But but yeah.
So, great.

(27:16):
Great.
Thanks, Nick, for coming on and and stopping inthe chat.
Like I said, we'll get you on live here soon.
But back to Dwayne here.
So now let's pivot away.
So you went through this time of mixeddiagnosis for 18 years of a of an impending
doom of cancer.
So I didn't I didn't go through it until March.
But like, if you're gonna ask about theshooting, think about it.

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I was dealing with 2 things at the same time.
Yeah.
Like, that's the whole thing is like, whenwhenever people ask me, they're like, well,
you're misdiagnosed.
So like but during that time period, I didn'tknow that.
Gotcha.
So you didn't realize you're you didn't realizeyou're misdiagnosed.
You were just going through the process of theblood cancer, and then then the shooting

(27:59):
happened, and then it was a little bit afterthat that you found out you were misdiagnosed.
So you're still dealing with the It
was it was it was it was 2 years.
It was 2 years ago.
Still a very short period of time in in thegrand scheme of things of dealing with trauma,
you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So let's talk about the shooting.
So this is this is one of those you're you'remeant for greatness because of what happened to

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you.
You weren't taken off this earth that day, andthat had to be something that inside of you
eventually, once once you had the, you know,why did this happen to me questions probably.
But but go ahead and tell the story, and thenwe'll get into those questions.
So I I have to, like, preface this.

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There was an officer who is a friend of a bunchof my friends who was murdered that day.
So like I I never wanna lose sight of that.
Okay.
What happened was me and my niece went to goget ice cream.
Okay.

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And I I I had I had had some medical issues notrelated to either.
I just I had taken some time where I was likeeating very healthy.
I wanted to take her to get ice cream.
And we went to the bank for for my dad.

(29:24):
Again, here's the thing about ownership.
I had two choices.
I made a decision.
I could've went to the bank for, second or gotthe ice cream first.
I decided to get the ice cream last.
So I just wanna let you know, like, I feelownership of how some of these things trans
happened.

(29:44):
The chain of events.
Right?
The chain of events.
Yes.
Thank you.
So we left the bank.
I took a right.
And normally, I drive in the the right lane.
Until later on, I drive into the left lane.
For some reason, I didn't.
Oh, by the way, I've gotta tell you.
I was driving my dad's truck.

(30:06):
Okay.
I have a SUV, and the tire pressure was down.
It was there was an issue with the tirepressure gauge.
And I didn't wanna get stuck with without, youknow, with the tire going low, especially with
my little niece in the back seat.
And so for about 2 weeks, I've been driving mydad's truck.

(30:30):
Probably about 2 or 3 days before that, my dadactually said, hey, why are you driving my
truck?
He's like, why don't you just drive your SUV?
That day, I drove his truck.
If I would not have been driving his truck, Iwould not be here.
For sure.
Oh, the where it entered in the level and yeah.
Right.
Exactly.

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Where that c pillar is.
Yes.
Oh, because it hit that thicker c pillar.
Yes.
So as I left the bank, I take a right.
Like I said, I usually drive a right lane.
I didn't know it's a left lane, and I stayed inthat left lane.
The sheriff office and the police station is onthe left hand side.

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Sorry.
I'm like, you're trying to get my hand.
It's on the left hand side.
And I saw people that were in a triangleformation.
So a triangle formation like this.
Mhmm.
There was 2 officers and then there was the thecriminal.
Okay.
And I'm going in more detail than I normally dojust because this is with you.

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So it's a little bit little bit different.
1st responder.
Yeah.
Right.
So
what happened was the criminal the the policeofficer did not pat down the criminal.
Okay.
The criminal was detained and questioned.
And like, there was a big huge investigation.

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Like, all these are facts.
Okay.
Facts.
The criminal had a knife that was attached torope around his neck.
Okay.
So someone did not do their job.
That's all I'm gonna say.
And, you know, they're it's in court right now.
They're doing all these lawsuits.
So alright.

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The criminal took a hidden gun out of hiswaistband and shot the police officer point
blank.
Killing yes.
Tragically killing this guy, who was friends ofall my friends.
Okay.
And I I kinda I kinda know of him.
I don't know him.
Okay.
So another police officer and the criminal werein a shoot out.

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I'm driving by as this happens.
The truck gets hit by a stray bullet.
Hits the c pillar.
If it would have been an eighth of an inch tothe left, it takes me out.
If it
goes an eighth of an inch to the right, godforbid it would have taken out my niece.

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Damn.
He was 3 years old at the time.
So, like, truly a miracle happened that day.
Truly, truly a miracle happened.
Mhmm.
The other part
is
I'll I'll I'll I'll just kinda break it alldown is I thought the truck in front of me was
a u is a big utility truck.

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I thought it backfired.
My niece actually asked.
We heard a pop.
She is like, what's that?
And I was like, that truck back I didn't getthe fired part out, and then I heard the rest
of the shots.
Yes.
And then I heard the one that hit the truck,and I was like, oh.

(33:47):
Okay.
Are you
driving still or were you sitting still?
No.
I'm driving.
Okay.
45 mile an hour.
Okay.
That was my next question.
Yes.
45 mile an hour.
So I do the speed limit pretty much.
The other thing is is, like, I could havepassed the utility vehicle.
If I would have moved the truck, you know,hindsight's you know, we don't have to talk

(34:10):
about that.
But, like Yeah.
Truly, the miracle happened by the bullethitting the c pillar.
And as you know, with the so it's a ChevroletAvalanche truck.
There's not a lot of metal on those things.
No.
It's a lot of plastic.
A bullet.
A lot of plastic.
But it was that
would stop a bullet.
Right.
That would stop a bullet.

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And so, yeah, man.
I'm very fortunate to be here.
And there's some more things that transpired.
But like, I'll just give you the basic facts.
I pull into another dealership.
I park the truck.

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I get out.
I call my dad.
I'm like, hey, I need you to come get my nieceand go come get the come get the kid.
I think the truck's gonna be impounded.
Because I'm like, I know it got hit.
I get outside.
I'm looking down.
I'm thinking, oh, it probably hit the truckbed.
Can't find it.

(35:12):
I'm thinking, well, it probably hit theundercarriage.
Not looking up yet.
I start going toward the bed of the truck andthen I see the bullet hole.
And then I'm like, oh.
Yeah.
And also because of me with athletics, I knew Ihad to control my breath.
I had to stay calm because if I didn't staycalm, then I would freak out.

(35:35):
And so that was the whole thing.
Like, the people at the dealership could notbelieve how calm I was, how, you know, how I
was dealing with stuff.
And so after the police shooting or after thewhole thing, I got to my house.
Of course, I'm, like, freaking out, but I'mnot, like, freaking out, if that makes sense.

(35:58):
There was a water bottle that night thatpopped, like, you know how like your water
bottles will like pop when
Mhmm.
Yeah.
And I almost broke my face because I, like,heard the pop and like moved and hit the wall.
Yeah.
I mean, I call my friend who has done 3 or 4tours in Iraq, and I'm like, hey, bud.

(36:20):
I was like, how did you deal with getting shotat?
And he's like, hey, bro.
I've never been shot at in my entire life.
That's what I do.
Okay.
I'm in the ocean and the deep water with allthe sharks.
Right.
And that was truly where I was
like Did they ever determine if it was a straybullet from the police officer or from the with

(36:45):
the the suspect?
Kyle, that's a great question.
And the bullet was stuck in the truck.
Mhmm.
We had the police take it out.
I'm pretty sure I know where it came from, butalso I don't have that 100%.
So I'd rather not make a statement.
Okay.

(37:05):
Yeah.
Interesting.
But it's just there was there was a lot of,like Yeah.
Fumbles.
There was a ton
of fumbles.
In in the tragic, you know, thank God that youand your niece are alive.
And but, you know, the the the tragedy is thatthey you know, that that suspect felt that he
had to take the life of a a police officer for,you know, didn't have to happen.

(37:28):
You know?
So
And think about this, Kyle.
The whole entire time, he has a gun.
So you know he's thinking it.
Yeah.
He's thinking, hey, I get outside.
I can shoot myself free or whatever.
I mean
Yeah.
You never know what's going through theirminds.
Yeah.
And so but, yeah, man.
It, like, as long ordeal, I went to their talktherapy for 2 years pretty much every twice a

(38:01):
week.
So, I mean, like, I was doing anything andeverything, but, man, I was still struggling
with PTSD and survivor's guilt.
Yeah.
Now other thing is this happened in 2022.
Okay.
It's a random day with COVID.
Yeah.
Well no.
So 2022, and I was given 15 years in 2006.

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So I thought my time was up.
Okay.
So that's where the survivor's guilt part comesup too.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
Because at the time, you're still thinking thatyou've got this this impending doom blood
disease.
Right?
So I'm like, okay.
That doesn't make any sense.
Jesus.
So then we roll around to March of 2024 where Ifind out I misdiagnosed.

(38:44):
Yeah.
Then it like makes way more
yeah.
Yes.
It it wakes it makes way more sense.
So yeah.
Okay.
So now let's go back.
So let's go back to that day that you weremisdiagnosed.
Like, was it, like, extreme, you know,jubilation?
Was there anger?
Like, did you go through the the the the levelsof grief?

(39:05):
I mean, like, what?
I mean, the levels of grief, most definitely.
So the what I would tell what I'm gonna tellyou is is for the let me adjust my microphone.
So when I went into the doctor's office, he, hetold me, he said, this is gonna be really hard
for you and really hard for me.
And I was like, how's that?

(39:27):
Right?
First of all, this is a brand new doctor.
I had never seen him before.
My doctor my oncologist that had seen me, hemoved to Chicago.
So this is a brand new guy.
And he's like, dude, I feel like you haveeither COPD or sleep apnea.
He's like, you don't have this.
And he, like, explained it.

(39:48):
And he asked me like different tests I hadtaken.
And they basically had put me in a box, Kyle.
And then they didn't let me out of the box.
I probably should've been released 8 or 9 yearsago.
After this one bone barrel test, this bonebarrel test is where I should have been.
Should have been just released.
But, you know, they didn't release me.

(40:10):
And so So you've asked if I was like injubilation or not.
I was like, I didn't understand.
You know, that was the whole thing.
18 years.
Like
Exactly.
I was like, are you sure?
That was my first question to the doctor was,are you sure?

(40:32):
It wasn't like, oh, hallelujah.
I'm I'm saved.
No.
I was like, are you sure?
Like, I've been doing this for all this time.
Yeah.
Are you really sure?
Because it remember, I had no I didn't trusthim.
I didn't know him.
And so he was like, yeah.
He's like, I'm really sure.
He's like, I'm actually gonna release you.
He released me that day.
I have never seen him again.

(40:53):
I have never been back to another oncologist.
But he he told me, he was like, I believe youhave COPD or sleep apnea.
And so through the next few like, I went home,talked to my parents.
We talked about it.
They wanted to get a second opinion.
I'm like, no.
I don't wanna get a second opinion.
Yeah.
I'm saying something
with them
telling me, no.
You really do.

(41:13):
Yeah.
Right.
So the other thing is is it was 4 days beforemy birthday.
So it happened on March 8th.
Okay.
My birthday is March 12th.
So I was why we get along.
We're Pisces on March 20th.
Okay.
So that's the whole thing, man.
It's like, I was just like, okay.
This is so I I wasn't like living it up.
I was trying to figure it out still at thatpoint.

(41:36):
But I was like, okay.
This is a early birthday present.
But I've been pray but, dude, I've been I'vehad been hitting my head on the pillow for
probably all the way up to the shooting.
Like, if I I would meet so many people, like,business wise, just the opportunity stuff, and
I would be like, why do I meet this person?

(41:57):
Because I can't do anything about I'm not ableto use this.
All this information.
Gosh.
All these connections that people have, allthese all these millionaires with businesses,
and all these people who have, like
You kinda shot yourself in the foot because youfelt like, well, I'm not gonna be here.
Right.
But they also knew that I was looking forlegacy projects.

(42:18):
Mhmm.
Like, that's the thing is they would come tome, and they're like, I know you would really
do really well with this.
Yeah.
Like, you think you could get a couple of yourfriends that would be interested.
And that's what I would do.
I talked to a bunch of my friends and, dude,they just didn't have the mindset of, like,
hey.
Yeah.
I'm willing to take
this first.
Didn't have the entrepreneurial mindset.
I get it.
No.

(42:39):
That was the other aspect of it.
They did have the entrepreneurial as mindset.
But also, when I feel like, we had talked to inthe previous, like, my parents owned a
business.
They were self employed all throughout my life.
Mhmm.
It's because I was, like, 4 years old.
So I've always had that business mindset,always trying to figure out things, how it

(43:03):
works, how the infrastructure works, thelogistics, all of that has always fascinated
with me.
Fascinated me.
But whenever I'd have conversations with peoplein business networking events, they would be
like, how you know all this stuff?
Like, what and then, you know, I'd be like, butalso you're seeing me as, like, a person with

(43:23):
energy.
I was not a person with energy, Kyle.
I was like a zombie.
Okay.
How are you doing?
Those times.
Yes.
I was so tired.
Well, when I I kinda wanna ask you when whenwas the basketball stuff?
Because you said you're an internationalbasketball player.
Yeah.
Was that were you were you retired before yougot diagnosed?
Yeah.
Absolutely.

(43:43):
Okay.
I didn't know if this is, like, something thathappened during basketball and then you had to
go out.
No.
No.
No.
No.
So I played basketball overseas when I was 19years old.
Okay.
So all this happened when I was 29.
Oh, okay.
So you were well past it.
Okay.
Alright.
Yeah.
So just to give you the basketball part is itwas a very short period.
Very short, like, 3 month period, and that'sfine.

(44:05):
Like, I I I'd never thought I would play pasthigh school.
Like, I just never did.
That was my dream to play past high school.
And that's what happened.
And I, you know, I came home, signed with anagent.
He was looking for me places to go play.
It just didn't materialize, and that's fine.
Like, I know I hit my ceiling, but when I hurtmy knee and she was saying, hey, you're gonna

(44:27):
have to have knee replacement by your, like, inyour mid thirties.
I was like, no.
I was like, I'm done.
I there's other things in life I want.
And I was trying to figure it out.
And that's why I always tell people when I was29, I thought I had plenty of time to figure it
out.
So I wasn't like rushing to do stuff.
I was like, oh, just, you know, this all thisstuff will get figured out.

(44:50):
Even, you know, like girls to like marriage.
I was like, I'm not even worried about thisright now.
I got, like, plenty of time.
And so
Wow.
I
think that's really the most important thing.
The most important piece I hope most peopletake is that Mhmm.
Time doesn't wait.
Yeah.
Nope.
Sure doesn't.

(45:10):
Yep.
So when it We're not promised anything.
Right.
So when it comes to what you're doing now, whatyou're what you're willing to speak on with,
you know, with that new you've got a new leaseon life in the last, you know, you were
misdiagnosed 18 years ago, almost 19 years agonow.
You've gone through this you've gone throughthis, near death experience with a random act

(45:35):
of violence, and and and and survived throughthat, and all the aftermath of that trauma.
And then, you know, 2 years later, you find outthat you were misdiagnosed with this blood
cancer, and it's really sleep apnea, which canbe fixed with CPAP at night, and you feel
great.
So and probably more energy now.
Like a 2 day fix.
It was like a

(45:55):
2 day
fix.
Yeah.
Exactly.
How I know.
Trust me.
I know all about CPAP.
So it's one of those things where it's likeit's like holy shit.
So once that happened so we're now almost ayear since you got the the misdiagnosis.
March 8th will be 1 year since you got therediagnosis or the un you know,
declassification of your disease.
So so talk about, like, when when did it, like,when did it snap into your brain that you're

(46:23):
like, wait a second, new lease on life, thosethings that I wanna do, that legacy, I can
actually go I'm gonna have the energy for it.
I'm gonna have the desire.
And I know when I first met you, you weren'tinvolved with as much stuff as you are now, and
that's only been a couple of months.
So so it probably took a better part of theyear for you to get, like, to this new place of

(46:44):
acceptance.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in April was like, okay.
The sleep it's definitely sleep apnea.
But there was, like, I was I've I always tellpeople I was, like, I was 99% sure.
It wasn't until September excuse me.
There wasn't until September when I really waslike, I'm a 100% sure.

(47:07):
Because I saw the blood work.
My blood went down.
Like, my thickness of my blood went down.
And I don't mean like a little bit.
My blood went from a specific number to a lowersignificant number over a like, 3 month period.
I was like, okay.
Now I know I do have sleep apnea only.
Mhmm.
I don't have something else.

(47:28):
And that was the the so, like, when I met you,I wanna say, like, October, I think is when we
met.
October, November.
Yeah.
Probably about that.
Yeah.
I think it was late late October.
Yeah.
And so oops.
So I was just trying to figure all of it out.
And I was like, I also like, I reached out topeople who I like, to to to females that were

(47:55):
like people who were like love interest that Iwas like, I would never thought I had the
opportunity.
Because I that was that was honestly, thebiggest thing for me was I didn't have wife and
kids because I didn't want people to carry myburden.
And I didn't want anything to happen because I
was like genetic.
You didn't wanna pass it on.
Yep.
Yes.
So that was the other part.

(48:16):
You know, at first, it was 5 years.
And I was like, I'm done.
Like, I'm gonna go do bucket list stuff.
And so in September, I reached out to this oneperson.
We started talking.
I missed like, I'm not going into all of thosedetails, but that was the whole thing.
It was just like, hey, I'm healthy.

(48:36):
See if this works.
That was really where my for about a month,month and a half, that's where my intention, my
mindset space was just like
Re Yeah.
Rekindle rekindle relationships.
Yeah.
Figure it out if this is if this is like reallywhat I I feel like I want and what I need.

(48:57):
And honestly, like after after that didn't goas planned as well as I thought, that was like,
okay.
Then I started going like, okay, I'm lookingfor business stuff.
Right.
And, you know, of course, January has beeninsane.
But, like, even in even in November, I would,like, still I would just

(49:19):
level up.
Yeah.
How many days?
About every week.
I would level up every week.
Yeah.
Where in January, it's like I level up everyday.
Couple of days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or day.
I would say day.
I mean, there's
Well, you you you know, I started, like, we'vebeen talking about you coming on a podcast ever
since the first day I met you, and then nowhere we are, what, it was late October.
Now it's early no or early February, and we'refinally doing something and we're doing it live

(49:42):
because, you know, we're we're you and I aretesting out the the live on on this, platform,
this Riverside that you'll be using for yourstuff.
So tell me a little bit about when you're whenyou say you're leveling up, like, what you're
allowed to talk about in in with your owntimeline in launching.
Like like, what are some things that thatyou're into?

(50:02):
And then and then after that, tell people howthey can get a hold of you with, whatever it
is, and then we'll wrap things up and we'llcall it we'll call it a show.
Yeah.
So the the best thing that hap the the best wayas far as business was I started getting into,
like, looking into podcasting.
Okay.
And people were just like they would see me onZoom and they're like, you should be a podcast

(50:27):
host.
And then it was like, people were comparing meto different podcasters.
And that we had the same type of and then theywere like, hey, your your trajectory is like
not at the just the medium level or like likeyou're at the top, top, top level trajectory is
what I've been told.

(50:47):
Because And the other thing is is like, I Iknew I had books in me.
Like, and I've been writing book.
Like, books, actually, books.
I'm actually writing 2 right now.
But it wasn't until certain people told methis.
That's the other aspect.
So it was like if just some random Joe or Jane,like, said it, okay.
Cool.

(51:08):
But, like, yeah, I'm just kinda not reallythinking about that.
But when the people who really, really knewbusiness, but also really knew these different
type things when they brought it to myattention, then it was like, oh, okay.
I am different.
And, you know, it's very similar to how sports,when people get recruited to go to to different

(51:30):
schools.
Like sometimes they offer you a bunch of BS,and then sometimes they offer you and say, hey,
like, I feel like you're a star.
And like, that's how I feel.
I feel like I'm a star.
I don't feel like new lease on life and Yes.
Twice.
So that's what I'm saying.
You're like, there's something I meant forgreatness.

(51:50):
You know?
Yes.
But, also, there's this part of me where Iknow, I know I have this new lease in life, but
I also have this part that other people don'thave.
And that's that's really what Show Up Towin'sabout.
Like that's the program, the lifestyle brandthat I that I came up with is showing up with

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intention.
Like I'm showing up with intention of liketonight as we're talking on a podcast of like
hosting my own podcast at some point.
Mhmm.
And, you know, through through your service
Guidance.
Yeah.
And help.
And yeah.
Yeah.
Just just mentorship.
Mentorship.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And so but but I think that that's veryimportant is, like but when you hear it from

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certain people, then you're like, oh, maybeYeah.
Maybe I will maybe I can do this.
Yeah.
And so the confidence just kinda kept growing.
And so, like business stuff, just like I have abrand partnership before I had 5 podcasts.
Not many people get to do that or have that.
Right?
Yeah.
You know, I'm already monetized before I did 5podcasts.

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Right.
That's great.
Right.
And so but that's the thing, Kyle, is thatthese stories gave me this incredible, like,
I'm a tier 1 per person.
You're only gonna get this story from 1 person.
Yeah.
From an international basketball player.
Yeah.
And this diagnosis, shooting.
Yeah.
And so that's the thing is is, like, when youlook at it from there and the fact that I know

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I'm just raw, I I don't I don't know what I'mdoing.
You know?
I'm not
I'm I'm fly flew by the seat of my pants too.
Right.
And I get I get so many compliments on oninterviews, and and I'm like, I didn't feel
like I I felt like a blubbering idiot, youknow?
And they're like, no.
It was a great conversation.
And I'm like, okay.
Maybe I am interesting.

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I don't know.
But that was that was the thing, Kyle.
It was like, it just was like these differentthings, but also I I started having a passion
for it.
But once I was able to bring it into a purposedriven, that's where, like, it really took off.
But when it was just like, I'm not an egoperson, even though I, like, I call myself a
star in certain things, like, you just have todo that in athletics.
Well, you have to believe yeah.

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Yeah.
You have to
believe there's a belief in yourself, you know,period.
If you don't have belief in yourself, you'renever gonna amount to anything that you wanna
do.
You know, you have to have some you have tohave some, you know, gumption, if you will.
You know?
Right.
And so for me is like, I'm doing the athleticpart that I wanted to do.
Also, like, I'm coaching a really good batelite basketball player right now.

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I actually was working out with him today.
Like, that's the thing is is, like, what I'vealways wanted is what I'm doing right now.
Nice.
It just took me Yeah.
18 years of misfortune to get there.
Yeah.
But, like, and also, I don't believe thingshappen to me anymore.
I don't think that people these things happenfor me.

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I think they happen through me.
And what I'm saying is is there's a lot ofother people that would have faltered through
this.
Mhmm.
But people are able to learn this lessonthrough me.
And so I'm able to facilitate that to people.
And it'll be in books.
It'll be in the different things.
And so I know you asked about Show Up To Win.
Show Up To Win is gonna be launching hopefullyby the end of the week.

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Oh, okay.
Yeah.
No.
Like yeah.
I put a little spark under you the other nightwhen I showed you all the fun stuff inside of
Riverside.
No.
Man, so like Show Up to Win has always beenlike it's it's what I've been looking for
Yeah.
When I was diagnosed.
Well, I was I can't believe show up to win isis it's like it's a dot com.

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It's not taken in the podcast world.
You know?
It's like, what?
That's so great.
I I mean, like Yes.
Like, that is so that is such a great flowing,you know, like, ignition path.
When I came across ignition path, and I'm like,how was this not taken, you know?
Like, this is awesome.
It totally makes sense, you know.
What ignites your passion of yourentrepreneurial path, you know, Ignition Path.

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It's like, you know, it's all in the name.
And when it when it feels right, it it happens,you know.
Yeah.
I mean, I have some other ones too that'll gointo, like, the business part.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We talked about that.
So
Yeah.
But but show up to win is just truly myprogram.
I tell people it's so I can teach people how toovercome adversity in unlikely and untimely

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circumstances.
I'm kind of an expert.
I've dealt with it twice.
Mhmm.
But also like I I just wanna pour into peopleand let them know, like, hey, they can
accomplish their dreams.
There's probably a situation they're in rightnow where they feel feel stuck.
And I know that feeling.
Mhmm.
But I also know what it takes to get out of it.

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And I also know what type of people can get outof it.
And I think that, like, I can coach aboutanyone that is willing.
I tell people, I want people who are willing todo what other people are unwilling to do.
And I can help you get wherever the hell youwant.
Wow.
That's awesome.
So how do people get a hold of you, Dwayne?

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So for the website, it's go up to show up towin dot inf0, and that's with the number 2.
And you put your information in.
There's a contact form.
It honestly, I tell everybody, if you put yourphone number in, I might just call you and just
find out, like, what how I could be a service,how my program could help you, especially at

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the early stages.
You know, I want to know the type of peoplethat is looking to come into my program and how
I can serve them the best.
And then the other way, you know, of course,like, you can catch me on Facebook and
Would you say it was show up to show up to windot com?
Dot inf0.
No.
The Oh, dot info.

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Okay.
Yes.
And as soon as show up to win dot com releasesthe course, I will you'll get notified.
Gotcha.
Yep.
Fantastic.
Alright.
Well, that that'll be on the screen and, ofcourse, in the in the, in the in the show
notes, show up to win dot info and, get a holdof Dwayne and have a conversation with him.

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He's got a couple other business things thatare, geared around Facebook and AI, which is
really interesting.
So if that's something that, interest you, geta hold of him.
Great conversation as always, Dwayne.
I wish I really appreciate your time andgetting to know you even better.
Learned a couple of things that I didn't knowalready with you from our other conversations
tonight, and I I really appreciate your timeand and really appreciate you hanging with me

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at 12:30 at night right now as we sign off.
So
Oh, wow.
I didn't realize that late.
I mean, I'm like, well, we've
been on for almost an hour.
It's a good time to wrap it up.
And I looked at him, like, oh, we only westarted at 11:30.
Oops.
Right.
Well, also the other thing too, Kyle, is that,like, this is actually becoming a passion of
mine, is being able to have these conversationsand being able to help people.

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So yeah.
Fantastic.
Alright, brother.
Well, thank you so much.
And there's, his, website again, to go find outhow to get a hold of him.
It's right there on the screen.
And, other than that, don't forget to like,subscribe, and share to the Ignition Path
podcast or the Ignition Path YouTube channel.
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Hit that share button.
Send that to that friend or that acquaintancethat you need to have them hear this message.
And, let's let's spread the word and and get toknow people and and even expand the networking
involved with, podcasting.
So signing off, Dwayne.
Once again, thanks again for coming on.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Thanks.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for your listeners for listening to us.

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