Ava and Jake Discuss exploring the journey of finding balance and maximizing potential in entrepreneurship. Jake discusses Matt Tack's early entrepreneurial spirit and the influence of family expectations, leading to a transition into real estate. They discuss the crucial role of support systems and the inception of Full Fueled with Dr. Alessi. The episode offers tips for holistic success, emphasizing the importance of incorporating movement and embracing discomfort.
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(00:00):
It's about finding that that balance, you know,maximizing your potential in every area of your
life.
Alright.
So this deep dive is gonna be a fun one.
Yeah.
This one's really interesting.
We're gonna be diving into the world ofentrepreneurship today, something I know you've
(00:23):
been wanting to learn
more about.
Absolutely.
I'm fascinated by people who can just,
like, create something out of nothing.
Right.
Fascinated by people who can just, like, createsomething out of nothing.
Right.
And the story we're about to unpack is aperfect example of that.
We're talking about Matt Thack.
Oh, this guy's a trip.
You sent over this interview with him.
And, wow.
I mean, talk about a journey.
Yeah.
(00:43):
It's not your typical straight line to success.
That's for sure.
Okay.
So let's start at the beginning.
Even as a kid, Matt was already showing signsof, like, that entrepreneurial spirit.
Oh, totally.
Like, he was obsessed with baseball cards.
Baseball cards.
Right.
Everyone had those.
But he wasn't just collecting them.
He was trading them, like, building up thiswhole inventory.
Because he had that hustle even back then.
(01:05):
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Like, he knew which cards were valuable, whichones were in demand.
That's incredible.
Like, he just instinctively understood themarket even as a kid.
Totally.
And that's something I think a lot of peoplemiss.
You know?
Those early passions, those side hustles,they're not just hobbies.
They're often the, like, the early trainingground for entrepreneurs.
I love that.
It's like those experiences, even if they seemsmall at the time, they're shaping your
(01:30):
mindset, your approach to, like, problemsolving and opportunity.
Exactly.
But okay.
So Matt's got this entrepreneurial spirit, buthis path wasn't, like, a straight line to
success.
Right?
There were some detours along the way.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Like, his dad was a big time athlete, so therewas that pressure to follow in his footsteps.
(01:50):
Oh, I see.
Like, family expectations and all that.
Exactly.
And, you know, Matt even went to college, got adegree, worked a 9 to 5 job, the whole 9 yards.
Really?
What kind of job?
Accounting of all things.
Accounting.
Wow.
That's about as far away from starting abusiness as you can get.
Right.
But even then, you can hear in the interview,he's, like, restless.
You know?
It's just not scratching that itch.
(02:12):
Exactly.
That feeling of, like, there's gotta be more tolife than this.
I think a lot of people listening can probablyrelate to that.
Totally.
That feeling of being stuck, like your truepotential is being wasted.
So what did he do?
Well, that's where things get interesting.
He ends up moving to Washington DC for his thengirlfriend, now wife.
Okay.
So a big life change.
A fresh start.
(02:32):
Exactly.
And sometimes, that's all it takes, you know.
A new environment and a new perspective.
Like, it shakes things up.
Makes you reevaluate what you really want outof life.
Right.
And for Matt, that move to DC, it was a totalgame changer, both personally and
professionally, it turns out.
So he lands in DC, new city, new start.
(02:53):
What's the next chapter for Matt?
So this is where things get really interesting.
Yeah.
He dives head first into the world of realestate.
Real estate?
Okay.
That's a pretty big leap from accounting.
Right.
But it wasn't just about, like, crunchingnumbers this time.
Yeah.
He saw an opportunity at the Airbnb world.
You know?
Yeah.
That whole sharing economy thing was juststarting to take off.
I see.
So he's spotting a trend, an opportunity to,like, build something of his own.
(03:17):
Exactly.
And it's important to remember, he had hiswife's support through all of this.
Oh, yeah.
She seems like a total rock star from theinterview.
Like, really believes in him and his vision.
Absolutely.
In fact, there's this great story he tellsabout how she actually encouraged him to quit a
job he hated.
No way.
Like, just gave him the green light to go forit.
Pretty much.
(03:37):
She basically said, go do whatever.
Like, figure it out.
Can you imagine having that kind of support?
That's incredible.
Talk about a leap of faith both for him and forher.
Totally.
But I think it speaks volumes about theirrelationship.
You know?
That trust, that shared belief in hisabilities.
Absolutely.
And that support, it clearly paid off.
So how does he go from Airbnb to, well, fullfueled?
(04:01):
That's quite a journey.
You're telling me, well, buckle up because thispart involves a bit of serendipity, maybe even
a touch of fate.
Matt meets doctor Alessi at a co working spaceof all places.
Wait.
Doctor Alessi as in the full fueled doctorAlessi?
The one and only.
It turns out they'd actually met, like, brieflyyears earlier.
No way.
(04:21):
Really.
Small world.
Right.
But the timing wasn't right back then.
This time though, something just clicked.
They started talking, realized they had thisshared passion for, like, helping people unlock
their potential.
And boom, the full fueled podcast is born.
Well, it wasn't quite that instant.
They started by collaborating on some projects,just kinda testing the waters.
(04:42):
But the more they worked together, the morethey realized they had this, like, this
synergy, this shared vision that went waybeyond just making a podcast.
It's amazing how those partnerships can developorganically.
Right?
Like, you start with a simple collaboration andthen it blossoms into something much bigger.
Exactly.
And that's what's so cool about Matt and doctorLessie's story.
It wasn't some calculated business move.
(05:05):
It was about 2 people with a shared passionfinding each other at the right time and
saying, hey, let's do something awesometogether.
And full fueled I mean, that's more than just acatchy name.
Right?
It's like a whole philosophy.
So full fueled.
It's like more than just a cool name.
Right?
They've really built a whole philosophy aroundit.
Oh, absolutely.
They break it down into these, like, 6 pillars,mind, body, work, fuel, movement, sleep.
(05:29):
It's about finding that that balance.
You know?
Mhmm.
Maximizing your potential in every area of yourlife.
Okay.
So it's not just about, like, guzzling energydrinks and working 247?
No.
No.
Not at all.
It's about being intentional.
Mhmm.
You know?
Making sure you're firing on all cylinders, butin a sustainable way.
(05:49):
Like, taking care of your mental and physicalhealth is just as important as crushing it in
your career.
Right.
It's holistic, like you were saying.
Exactly.
And they don't just talk the talk.
They walk the walk.
You know what I mean?
They give you actual practical tips for eachpillar.
So it's not just a bunch of motivational fluff.
No way.
Like, remember how we talked about Matt feelingstuck in that accounting job?
Well, the movement pillar that really resonatedwith him.
(06:11):
Makes sense.
When you're feeling physically sluggish, it'shard to, like, be creative and motivated in
other areas of your life.
Exactly.
And they're not just talking about, like,hitting the gym 7 days a week.
It's about incorporating movement into youreveryday routine.
Okay.
So, like, what?
Taking the stairs instead of the elevator?
Going for a walk at lunch?
Exactly.
Little things that make a big difference.
(06:33):
They even talk about this idea of intentionaldiscomfort.
Intentional Okay.
Now you've lost me.
So it's like pushing yourself outside yourcomfort zone but on purpose, you know,
challenging yourself physically and mentally.
Okay.
I kinda get it.
Like, no pain, no gain, but for your wholelife.
Exactly.
Like, growth happens when you're pushing thoseboundaries.
Right?
Makes sense.
(06:53):
Now what about those downloads Matt talksabout?
That part really intrigued me.
The downloads.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
So he's talking about those moments ofinspiration, those moments that seem to just,
like, hit you out of nowhere.
Oh, yeah.
I know exactly what you mean.
It's like you'll be in the shower or out for arun and, bam, brilliant idea.
Exactly.
And then, like, 2 minutes later, it's gone.
(07:14):
The worst.
So how do you capture those downloads?
Matt's big thing is write it down immediately.
Don't let it slip away.
Okay.
That seems simple enough.
But is it really just random, or is there a wayto, like, make those downloads happen more
often?
Well, that's where things get interesting.
Matt and doctor Alessi, they believe thosedownloads, they're not just random.
(07:34):
They're your subconscious mind working in thebackground.
Okay.
Woah.
So, like, our brains are constantly makingconnections even when we're not aware of it.
Exactly.
And the more you pay attention to thosedownloads, the more you cultivate that sense of
mindfulness, the more often they seem tohappen.
It's like a positive feedback loop.
The more you listen to those inner nudges, thelouder they get.
Exactly.
(07:55):
And that I think that's a powerful takeaway foranyone listening.
We all have those moments of inspiration, thoseflashes of insight.
I just have to be open to them.
And ready to act on them.
Right?
Yeah.
Totally.
Well, I gotta say, this has been a reallyinspiring deep dive.
Matt Tack's story, it's about so much more thanjust building a business.
It's about designing a life that's truly,authentically, full fueled.
(08:17):
Couldn't have said it better myself.
It's a great reminder that we all have thatpower within us, you know, to shape our own
narratives, to embrace those unexpecteddetours, and to create something truly
meaningful with our lives.
Absolutely.
And on that note, thanks for joining me on thisjourney.
Until
(08:42):
next time.
It's about finding that that balance, you know,maximizing your potential in every area of your
life.
Alright.
So this deep dive is gonna be a fun one.
Yeah.
This one's really interesting.
We're gonna be diving into the world ofentrepreneurship today, something I know you've
(00:23):
been wanting to learn
more about.
Absolutely.
I'm fascinated by people who can just,
like, create something out of nothing.
Right.
Fascinated by people who can just, like, createsomething out of nothing.
Right.
And the story we're about to unpack is aperfect example of that.
We're talking about Matt Thack.
Oh, this guy's a trip.
You sent over this interview with him.
And, wow.
I mean, talk about a journey.
Yeah.
(00:43):
It's not your typical straight line to success.
That's for sure.
Okay.
So let's start at the beginning.
Even as a kid, Matt was already showing signsof, like, that entrepreneurial spirit.
Oh, totally.
Like, he was obsessed with baseball cards.
Baseball cards.
Right.
Everyone had those.
But he wasn't just collecting them.
He was trading them, like, building up thiswhole inventory.
Because he had that hustle even back then.
(01:05):
Oh, yeah.
Big time.
Like, he knew which cards were valuable, whichones were in demand.
That's incredible.
Like, he just instinctively understood themarket even as a kid.
Totally.
And that's something I think a lot of peoplemiss.
You know?
Those early passions, those side hustles,they're not just hobbies.
They're often the, like, the early trainingground for entrepreneurs.
I love that.
It's like those experiences, even if they seemsmall at the time, they're shaping your
(01:30):
mindset, your approach to, like, problemsolving and opportunity.
Exactly.
But okay.
So Matt's got this entrepreneurial spirit, buthis path wasn't, like, a straight line to
success.
Right?
There were some detours along the way.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Like, his dad was a big time athlete, so therewas that pressure to follow in his footsteps.
(01:50):
Oh, I see.
Like, family expectations and all that.
Exactly.
And, you know, Matt even went to college, got adegree, worked a 9 to 5 job, the whole 9 yards.
Really?
What kind of job?
Accounting of all things.
Accounting.
Wow.
That's about as far away from starting abusiness as you can get.
Right.
But even then, you can hear in the interview,he's, like, restless.
You know?
It's just not scratching that itch.
(02:12):
Exactly.
That feeling of, like, there's gotta be more tolife than this.
I think a lot of people listening can probablyrelate to that.
Totally.
That feeling of being stuck, like your truepotential is being wasted.
So what did he do?
Well, that's where things get interesting.
He ends up moving to Washington DC for his thengirlfriend, now wife.
Okay.
So a big life change.
A fresh start.
(02:32):
Exactly.
And sometimes, that's all it takes, you know.
A new environment and a new perspective.
Like, it shakes things up.
Makes you reevaluate what you really want outof life.
Right.
And for Matt, that move to DC, it was a totalgame changer, both personally and
professionally, it turns out.
So he lands in DC, new city, new start.
(02:53):
What's the next chapter for Matt?
So this is where things get really interesting.
Yeah.
He dives head first into the world of realestate.
Real estate?
Okay.
That's a pretty big leap from accounting.
Right.
But it wasn't just about, like, crunchingnumbers this time.
Yeah.
He saw an opportunity at the Airbnb world.
You know?
Yeah.
That whole sharing economy thing was juststarting to take off.
I see.
So he's spotting a trend, an opportunity to,like, build something of his own.
(03:17):
Exactly.
And it's important to remember, he had hiswife's support through all of this.
Oh, yeah.
She seems like a total rock star from theinterview.
Like, really believes in him and his vision.
Absolutely.
In fact, there's this great story he tellsabout how she actually encouraged him to quit a
job he hated.
No way.
Like, just gave him the green light to go forit.
Pretty much.
(03:37):
She basically said, go do whatever.
Like, figure it out.
Can you imagine having that kind of support?
That's incredible.
Talk about a leap of faith both for him and forher.
Totally.
But I think it speaks volumes about theirrelationship.
You know?
That trust, that shared belief in hisabilities.
Absolutely.
And that support, it clearly paid off.
So how does he go from Airbnb to, well, fullfueled?
(04:01):
That's quite a journey.
You're telling me, well, buckle up because thispart involves a bit of serendipity, maybe even
a touch of fate.
Matt meets doctor Alessi at a co working spaceof all places.
Wait.
Doctor Alessi as in the full fueled doctorAlessi?
The one and only.
It turns out they'd actually met, like, brieflyyears earlier.
No way.
(04:21):
Really.
Small world.
Right.
But the timing wasn't right back then.
This time though, something just clicked.
They started talking, realized they had thisshared passion for, like, helping people unlock
their potential.
And boom, the full fueled podcast is born.
Well, it wasn't quite that instant.
They started by collaborating on some projects,just kinda testing the waters.
(04:42):
But the more they worked together, the morethey realized they had this, like, this
synergy, this shared vision that went waybeyond just making a podcast.
It's amazing how those partnerships can developorganically.
Right?
Like, you start with a simple collaboration andthen it blossoms into something much bigger.
Exactly.
And that's what's so cool about Matt and doctorLessie's story.
It wasn't some calculated business move.
(05:05):
It was about 2 people with a shared passionfinding each other at the right time and
saying, hey, let's do something awesometogether.
And full fueled I mean, that's more than just acatchy name.
Right?
It's like a whole philosophy.
So full fueled.
It's like more than just a cool name.
Right?
They've really built a whole philosophy aroundit.
Oh, absolutely.
They break it down into these, like, 6 pillars,mind, body, work, fuel, movement, sleep.
(05:29):
It's about finding that that balance.
You know?
Mhmm.
Maximizing your potential in every area of yourlife.
Okay.
So it's not just about, like, guzzling energydrinks and working 247?
No.
No.
Not at all.
It's about being intentional.
Mhmm.
You know?
Making sure you're firing on all cylinders, butin a sustainable way.
(05:49):
Like, taking care of your mental and physicalhealth is just as important as crushing it in
your career.
Right.
It's holistic, like you were saying.
Exactly.
And they don't just talk the talk.
They walk the walk.
You know what I mean?
They give you actual practical tips for eachpillar.
So it's not just a bunch of motivational fluff.
No way.
Like, remember how we talked about Matt feelingstuck in that accounting job?
Well, the movement pillar that really resonatedwith him.
(06:11):
Makes sense.
When you're feeling physically sluggish, it'shard to, like, be creative and motivated in
other areas of your life.
Exactly.
And they're not just talking about, like,hitting the gym 7 days a week.
It's about incorporating movement into youreveryday routine.
Okay.
So, like, what?
Taking the stairs instead of the elevator?
Going for a walk at lunch?
Exactly.
Little things that make a big difference.
(06:33):
They even talk about this idea of intentionaldiscomfort.
Intentional Okay.
Now you've lost me.
So it's like pushing yourself outside yourcomfort zone but on purpose, you know,
challenging yourself physically and mentally.
Okay.
I kinda get it.
Like, no pain, no gain, but for your wholelife.
Exactly.
Like, growth happens when you're pushing thoseboundaries.
Right?
Makes sense.
(06:53):
Now what about those downloads Matt talksabout?
That part really intrigued me.
The downloads.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
So he's talking about those moments ofinspiration, those moments that seem to just,
like, hit you out of nowhere.
Oh, yeah.
I know exactly what you mean.
It's like you'll be in the shower or out for arun and, bam, brilliant idea.
Exactly.
And then, like, 2 minutes later, it's gone.
(07:14):
The worst.
So how do you capture those downloads?
Matt's big thing is write it down immediately.
Don't let it slip away.
Okay.
That seems simple enough.
But is it really just random, or is there a wayto, like, make those downloads happen more
often?
Well, that's where things get interesting.
Matt and doctor Alessi, they believe thosedownloads, they're not just random.
(07:34):
They're your subconscious mind working in thebackground.
Okay.
Woah.
So, like, our brains are constantly makingconnections even when we're not aware of it.
Exactly.
And the more you pay attention to thosedownloads, the more you cultivate that sense of
mindfulness, the more often they seem tohappen.
It's like a positive feedback loop.
The more you listen to those inner nudges, thelouder they get.
Exactly.
(07:55):
And that I think that's a powerful takeaway foranyone listening.
We all have those moments of inspiration, thoseflashes of insight.
I just have to be open to them.
And ready to act on them.
Right?
Yeah.
Totally.
Well, I gotta say, this has been a reallyinspiring deep dive.
Matt Tack's story, it's about so much more thanjust building a business.
It's about designing a life that's truly,authentically, full fueled.
(08:17):
Couldn't have said it better myself.
It's a great reminder that we all have thatpower within us, you know, to shape our own
narratives, to embrace those unexpecteddetours, and to create something truly
meaningful with our lives.
Absolutely.
And on that note, thanks for joining me on thisjourney.
Until
(08:42):
next time.
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