November 15, 2024 • 19 mins
Ava and Jake review Janelle Classen's episode on teh Ignition Path. They explore her transformative journey from experiencing burnout in healthcare to founding "Nursing the Nurse." They delve into the pervasive "suck it up" culture and systemic challenges within the healthcare industry. The conversation highlights the importance of addressing these issues to foster a healthier work environment for those in the healthcare field.
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(00:00):
Okay.
So picture this.
You land your dream job.
Right?
6 months in, bam, totally burnt out.
Oh, wow.
That's exactly what happened to JanelleClassen, an ER nurse over in Australia.
And we're going deep on her story today.
Seeing how she took that burnout, flipped it,turned it into a whole mission to help other
health care folks dealing with the same thing.
(00:21):
Hello, and thank you for listening.
Welcome to the Afterburn where Jake Carter andI break down the latest episodes of the
Ignition Path podcast.
I'm Ava Morgan.
And every week, we dive into the conversationsbetween host Kyle Goodnight and his incredible
guests.
And we're here to give you a thoughtful review.
No fluff.
No bias.
Just our honest take on the topics discussed.
(00:43):
That's right, Ava.
Pulling out the nuggets of wisdom and sometimesdebating the finer points.
We've got plenty to discuss, so let's dive intoit.
Yeah.
You know, it's interesting.
Janelle's story, it's like it unlocks thishidden problem.
We hear burnout in health care all the time.
But her experience, it shows you how deep itreally goes Yeah.
(01:04):
Especially for, like, those just starting out.
Totally.
And we've got this interview of hers.
It's from the Ignition Path podcast.
The host, Kyle Goodnight.
He's a paramedic himself.
Oh, okay.
And she talks about that whole shift going fromnurse to entrepreneur.
And she gets real, real honest about what it'sactually like in health care, like, down in the
trenches.
I bet.
Having those firsthand views from both Janelleand Kyle, that's gotta be so valuable because
(01:28):
it's not just, you know, some theory.
They're wrestling with the system, a systemthat, let's be honest, isn't always built to
support its own people.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And Janelle, she doesn't sugarcoat anything.
She talks about feeling just totally swamped.
Only 6 months in, it's like the system waschewing her up and spitting her out.
You know?
Oh, wow.
And she even went to a senior nurse for advice,hoping for, I don't know, some wisdom, some
(01:52):
guidance.
Makes sense.
And what did she get?
Suck it up.
Oh.
I know.
Right?
It's like that suck it up attitude.
It's exactly what Janelle's pushing backagainst.
Like, that's the problem.
This whole normalizing of burnout and healthcare, it's dangerous.
You imagine being told that your suffering isjust part of the job description.
Right.
It's like, well, you signed up for this, sojust deal with it.
(02:12):
Exactly.
But here's where her story gets inspiring.
Janelle, she refused to just accept that.
She was like, there has gotta be a better way.
So she dives headfirst into research, readstons of books about resilience, even looks into
coaching programs.
Like, she's on a mission.
That's awesome.
I really like how she didn't just, you know,get stuck feeling like a victim.
(02:33):
She took charge of her own well-being, startedlooking for solutions.
That's where her entrepreneurial spirit kicksin, I think.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
She realized that those, like, generic selfcare tips, they weren't cutting it for nurses.
Take a bubble bath.
Go for a walk.
That doesn't touch the real issues, theemotional weight nurses carry.
So she took everything she learned, mixed itwith her own experiences, and created this
(02:56):
totally unique approach.
And that's how Nursing the Nurse was born.
That's a big point though.
Right?
Because she recognizes nurses need more thanjust a band aid solution.
They need strategies that last, something builtfor the realities of their job.
Her program, it's a direct answer to thosegeneric fixes we see all the time.
You got it.
And she started small, just sharing thesestrategies with coworkers and saw the
(03:20):
difference it made.
Like, she was planting these seeds ofresilience.
You know?
I love that.
You know, it's like that saying you can't healalone.
Having that support, even just one person whogets it, it can be huge in a high stress job.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And this is where things get reallyinteresting.
Janelle turns this passion into somethingbigger.
She writes a book, Nursing the Nurse, theultimate 6 step guide to beating nurse burnout.
(03:45):
And then she goes and develops a whole courseto go with it.
That's smart.
It's like she's creating this road map forother nurses.
Right?
Yeah.
Helping them avoid the traps she fell into,reclaim their well being before they hit that
breaking point.
Exactly.
And you know me, I love a good program name.
And this one, it delivers.
The course is called, get this, nursing thenurse, the ultimate walk through.
(04:07):
Oh, nice.
It's like she's saying, I've been through it.
I know the way out, and now I'm gonna walk youthrough it step by step.
Yeah.
And I think that's really smart because itspeaks to that feeling of being overwhelmed,
which a lot of nurses face.
They know they need help, but they don't evenknow where to begin.
So this walk through, it gives them astructured, manageable
approach.
For sure.
And she doesn't stop there.
She creates a membership program too.
(04:29):
Nursing the Nurse, the holistic huddle.
It's like this supercharged support system withongoing resources and a whole community of
nurses who are on the same page.
I bet that sense of community is so vital,especially in a job that can feel so isolating,
you know.
You're surrounded by people, but dealing withthis heavy stuff alone, this huddle, it creates
(04:50):
a space for shared experience, collectivehealing.
Totally.
And she even brings in experts from differentfields, a physiotherapist, a nutritionist, a
mindset coach to offer this well roundedsupport.
See, that's key.
Right?
It shows that burnout, it's not just a mentalhealth thing.
It affects you physically, emotionally, thewhole package.
Yes.
This holistic approach recognizing that it'scrucial for lasting well-being.
(05:14):
It really is.
But what stood out most to me, honestly, isJanelle's emphasis on being healthfully
selfish.
She's not afraid to say that nurses need toprioritize themselves, which in a profession
where self sacrifice is, like, built into theDNA, that's a pretty radical idea.
It makes you wonder, doesn't it, if thatingrained selflessness is part of what fuels
the burnout problem, almost like they'retrained to ignore their own needs while serving
(05:38):
others and the system just encourages that.
Yeah.
It's like a vicious cycle.
And Janelle, she's challenging that head on.
Which is brave because there can be so muchguilt wrapped up in putting yourself first,
especially when people's lives are literally inyour hands.
But she's making the case that to truly carefor others, you gotta care for yourself first.
You got it.
(05:58):
And she even talks about how for a lot ofnurses asking for help, it feels like admitting
weakness.
Yeah.
And that's so dangerous, especially in a fieldwith such high stakes.
Right.
That silence, the hesitation to reach out,that's what lets burnout fester and grow.
Both Janelle and Kyle, they're pushing for thisculture shift where vulnerability is seen as
strength.
(06:19):
We're asking for help becomes normal, not theexception.
Exactly.
Like, they're saying, look, we've all beenthere.
Hit that wall.
It's not a weakness.
It's just being human.
And by recognizing our human limitations, weactually become more effective, more
compassionate in providing health care.
For sure.
Now let's dig into some specific moments fromJanelle's interview that really bring these
(06:41):
issues to light.
There's this one part really got to me.
Janelle's talking about her breaking pointright.
And it wasn't like one big awful event.
It was this gradual buildup of stress, like,almost like a cup slowly filling up until it
just spills over.
Yeah.
It's that everyday grind, isn't it?
Those long shifts, never enough staff carryingthe weight of people in crisis, then you go
(07:02):
home, try to shut it all off, only to do it allagain the next day.
And it's not just the patients either.
It's the whole system.
Janelle talks about feeling totally unsupportedby management, like her well-being wasn't even
on their radar.
And that lack of support from the top downbreeds this culture where people are terrified
to speak up, to admit they're struggling.
(07:24):
Which brings us right back to that suck it upmentality.
Right?
It's almost like the system's gaslighting them,saying their suffering is normal, expected,
even a sign of dedication.
It's so messed up because it stops people fromgetting help.
They start thinking this is just how it is.
There's no other way.
But Janelle's pushing back against that.
She's saying, no.
It doesn't have to be like this.
There are tools, strategies, support systems,things that can help.
(07:46):
And her story proves it.
She went from feeling totally lost andoverwhelmed to building this incredible
resource for other nurses.
It wasn't just about finding solutions forherself, but sharing them, creating this ripple
effect of change in the whole profession.
And that's where her entrepreneurial sidereally shines.
Right?
Uh-huh.
She saw a need, built a solution, then made awhole platform to share it with the world.
(08:10):
It's brilliant because it lets her reach waymore nurses than she ever could just working
within the system.
It's like she had to step outside the system toreally change it from within.
And by making a business around this, it'ssustainable.
She can keep making resources, offeringsupport, pushing for a more compassionate
system.
Okay.
Let's get into the specifics of her programbecause this is where it gets really good.
(08:33):
Mhmm.
The core of nursing the nurse is this 6 stepframework for beating burnout.
And I love this because it's not just aboutcoping mechanisms, it's about empowerment.
It's giving nurses the tools to take backcontrol.
That first step, self awareness, it's soimportant, forces you to stop, take stock of
where you're at.
(08:53):
Janelle asks nurses to really look at theirwell-being, physical, mental, emotional, figure
out their specific stressors, recognize theearly warning signs of burnout.
But she's saying you can't fix what you don'tunderstand.
Exactly.
Without that self awareness, you're justreacting to the chaos, getting swept away.
Uh-huh.
But once you get yourself your triggers, yourlimits, you can start making conscious choices.
(09:14):
Step 2 is all about stress managementtechniques.
That's where the practical tools come in.
Chanel teaches nurses specific ways to, like,regulate their emotions, calm their nervous
system when things get intense.
I think this is where her program really standsout from all those generic self care tips.
It's not just take a bubble bath.
It's about learning techniques.
(09:35):
Things like mindfulness, breathing exercises,even time management skills, all designed for
the specific stressors they face.
And it's not just managing stress in themoment, it's about preventing it, which is
where step 3 comes in setting boundaries.
This is huge for nurses.
They're naturally caring people, but that canlead to them taking on way more than they can
(09:56):
handle.
So Janelle, she guides them on setting healthyboundaries with coworkers, patients, even
family so they can protect their energy andprevent resentment from building up.
She talks about learning to say no, which I canimagine is so hard in a job where you're
constantly being asked to do more with less.
And it's not just saying no.
It's about knowing your limits, knowing whenyou need to step back, recharge, and then
(10:19):
communicating those needs clearly.
So step 4 is about building that supportsystem.
And this isn't just friends and family.
It's about connecting with other nurses,finding those people who truly get what you're
going through.
Having that shared understanding, thatcamaraderie, it makes such a difference.
It's a safe space to vent, debrief, process allthose heavy emotions that come with the job.
(10:40):
Right.
You can't just bottle it all up.
It has to go somewhere.
And having that outlet, that group of peoplewho get it, that can be incredibly healing.
It's recognizing you're not in this alone.
Others have walked this path and found theirway through, and they can offer guidance,
support, a shoulder to cry on when you need it.
Then we get to step 5, which is all aboutfinding meaning and purpose in your work.
(11:01):
This is where Janelle encourages nurses toreconnect with their why.
Like, remember what drew them to thisprofession in the first place.
Yeah.
It's so easy to get lost in the day to day,lose sight of the bigger picture.
This step reminds them of the good they'redoing, the lives they're touching, and helps
them tap back into that sense of purpose thatcan fuel their resilience.
(11:22):
Like she's saying, hey, even when it's tough,remember why you're doing this.
Remember the good you're putting out there.
Because that sense of purpose, it can be sopowerful, especially when you're facing
challenges.
It gives you something to hold on to, somethingto fight for even when you feel like giving up.
And finally, we get to step 6, which is allabout self care.
(11:43):
And this isn't just about bubble baths and facemasks.
It's about building a sustainable lifestylethat supports your well-being, physical,
mental, emotional, the whole picture.
This is another area where Janelle's programshines because she gives practical strategies
that are actually tailored for nurses.
We're talking about sleep, healthy eating,finding time for relaxation, hobbies, even if
(12:05):
it's just for 15 minutes a day.
It's understanding that self care isn't aluxury.
It's a necessity.
And it doesn't have to be this big elaboratething.
It can be simple, like taking 5 minutes to justbreathe, stretch, disconnect from the chaos,
and reconnect with yourself.
Exactly.
And it's about making those small acts of selfcare nonnegotiable, like brushing your teeth or
showering.
(12:26):
Because when you take care of yourself, you'reactually better able to care for others.
Now, all this is great in theory, but Janelledoesn't just leave nurses hanging with these 6
steps.
She built this whole ecosystem of support withher course, her membership program, even her
upcoming podcast.
It's like she's built a bridge between knowingand doing.
You can't just read about this stuff.
You gotta put it into practice.
(12:48):
And her program gives you the structure, thesupport, the community to actually do it.
Let's talk about that membership programbecause I think this is where Nursing the Nurse
really comes alive.
It's called the holistic huddle, and it's waymore than just a support group.
It's like a gym membership for your mentalhealth, but specifically for nurses.
And that focus is what makes it so powerful.
(13:09):
She gets the unique challenges they face, face,and she built a program that tackles those
challenges head on.
She brings in experts from all these differentfields to provide this truly holistic approach.
You've got physiotherapy, tackling the physicaltoll of the job, nutrition guidance, helping
them make healthy choices even with crazyschedules, and mindset coaching, giving them
(13:29):
tools to manage those negative thoughts andbuild resilience.
That's so smart because it recognizes thatburnout isn't just in your head.
It affects you on every level, physical,emotional, even spiritual.
And by addressing all those aspects, Janelle'screated a path to well-being that actually
lasts.
It's not just about coping, it's aboutthriving.
And it's all accessible through an app sonurses can use these resources anytime,
(13:52):
anywhere, Whether it's a quick meditationduring a break, a healthy recipe, or a pep talk
from the mindset coach, the support's rightthere in their pocket.
That accessibility is so crucial, especiallywith the crazy hours and unpredictable nature
of nursing.
But beyond the practical stuff and expertguidance, the holistic huddle offers something
even deeper, a sense of community.
(14:13):
That feeling of belonging, of being understoodby people who truly get it, that's where the
magic happens.
Like, having this built in support system ofnurses who've walked in your shoes.
And they're not just sharing struggles.
They're celebrating successes, those smallwins, those moments of resilience.
It creates this positive cycle, this upwardspiral where each person's progress inspires
(14:33):
and motivates the others.
And that collective energy, that commitment tothriving, it's contagious.
Janelle's creating a movement within nursing,one that challenges the status quo, breaks down
the stigma around mental health, and empowersnurses to put their well-being first.
And it's spreading.
She's launching her own podcast soon focused onmental health and well-being in health care.
(14:55):
That's gonna be huge because podcasts can reachpeople right where they are, normalize these
conversations about topics that are oftenbrushed under the rug.
It's like she's taking this undergroundmovement, bringing it to the surface, creating
a space for nurses to share their stories,connect, and push for change.
And it's not just nurses either.
Her work has implications for anyone in healthcare, anyone in a high stress job, really.
(15:18):
Because at the end of the day, we all need tobe healthfully selfish to some degree.
We all need to take care of ourselves to showup fully in our lives, our work, for the people
we care about.
Janelle's story reminds us that resilience is achoice.
Burnout isn't inevitable, and we all have thepower to create a more compassionate and
sustainable future, starting with ourselves.
(15:40):
Yeah.
It's like we're taught that pushing ourselvesto the limit, that's what makes you a good
health care worker.
But Janelle's showing us now real strength isknowing your limits and having the guts to ask
for help.
And that help, it doesn't always have to be,you know, as a therapist or a fancy program.
Sometimes it's just those honest conversationswith colleagues, building a culture where it's
okay to say, hey.
I'm struggling.
(16:00):
Right.
But that takes a real mindset shift.
Yeah.
Challenging those deep down beliefs about whatit means to be a good nurse, dedicated, all
that.
For sure.
It's moving away from that martyr thing,embracing a bigger picture of well-being.
Realizing our personal lives, our work lives,they're all connected.
You can't just, like, compartmentalize stress,emotions, exhaustion.
It spills over.
Janelle is a perfect example.
(16:21):
She had to go through it herself, hit that wallbefore she realized something's gotta change.
And that change, it started with her choosingto take care of herself.
And that's such a powerful message.
It shows us we're not helpless burnout.
We have options.
We can make choices.
But it's not just about individual choices,though.
Right?
The system itself, health care, it needs tochange too.
(16:44):
Absolutely.
We gotta ditch this culture of silence, thisidea that health care workers should just grin
and bear it, deal with the emotional toll, themental strain, all of it.
We need a culture where getting help is seen asa good thing, where taking care of yourself is
a priority, where health care workers feelsupported like they matter.
And that starts at the top with leadership.
(17:06):
Creating workplaces where people feel safespeaking up, admitting their struggles, asking
for help without feeling judged.
It's about making well-being a core part ofquality care, not some extra thing, some
luxury.
Because, let's be real, a burnt out health careworker, they can't give compassionate,
effective care.
Their exhaustion, their emotional drain, itaffects everyone around them, colleagues,
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patients, everyone.
Janelle's work is putting the spotlight onthis.
In her program, nursing the nurse, it's givingpeople a way forward, empowering nurses to take
care of themselves so they can better take careof others.
And it goes beyond just nurses.
Her message, it speaks to all of us no matterwhat we do.
It's that reminder, we all need to behealthfully selfish sometimes.
(17:49):
We gotta take care of ourselves to show upfully in our lives, our work for the people we
love.
It's a call to action to question thoseunspoken expectations, those rules that nobody
talks about, the ones that lead to burnout andkeep us from asking for help.
It reminds us resilience is a choice, andsometimes the bravest thing we can do is reach
out for support.
(18:09):
So as you go through your day, as you deal withthe demands of work and life, I want you to
think about this.
What are those unspoken expectations in yourworld and how can you challenge them?
How can you create a better, more supportivespace for yourself and the people around you?
Remember, your well-being matters.
And when you take care of yourself, you're notjust helping yourself, you're helping build a
(18:30):
more compassionate, more resilient world.
Alright.
That's it for today's review on the afterburn.
Thanks for joining us as we broke down anotherawesome episode of the Ignition Path podcast.
If you haven't listened to it yet, make sure tocheck it out.
Kyle always brings something new to the table,and we're here to make sure you don't miss a
beat.
(18:51):
For sure.
And don't forget each week, we're here to giveyou the straight talk on these episodes,
pulling out what really matters for yourentrepreneurial journey.
See you next time and keep igniting your pathto success.
Okay.
So picture this.
You land your dream job.
Right?
6 months in, bam, totally burnt out.
Oh, wow.
That's exactly what happened to JanelleClassen, an ER nurse over in Australia.
And we're going deep on her story today.
Seeing how she took that burnout, flipped it,turned it into a whole mission to help other
health care folks dealing with the same thing.
(00:21):
Hello, and thank you for listening.
Welcome to the Afterburn where Jake Carter andI break down the latest episodes of the
Ignition Path podcast.
I'm Ava Morgan.
And every week, we dive into the conversationsbetween host Kyle Goodnight and his incredible
guests.
And we're here to give you a thoughtful review.
No fluff.
No bias.
Just our honest take on the topics discussed.
(00:43):
That's right, Ava.
Pulling out the nuggets of wisdom and sometimesdebating the finer points.
We've got plenty to discuss, so let's dive intoit.
Yeah.
You know, it's interesting.
Janelle's story, it's like it unlocks thishidden problem.
We hear burnout in health care all the time.
But her experience, it shows you how deep itreally goes Yeah.
(01:04):
Especially for, like, those just starting out.
Totally.
And we've got this interview of hers.
It's from the Ignition Path podcast.
The host, Kyle Goodnight.
He's a paramedic himself.
Oh, okay.
And she talks about that whole shift going fromnurse to entrepreneur.
And she gets real, real honest about what it'sactually like in health care, like, down in the
trenches.
I bet.
Having those firsthand views from both Janelleand Kyle, that's gotta be so valuable because
(01:28):
it's not just, you know, some theory.
They're wrestling with the system, a systemthat, let's be honest, isn't always built to
support its own people.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And Janelle, she doesn't sugarcoat anything.
She talks about feeling just totally swamped.
Only 6 months in, it's like the system waschewing her up and spitting her out.
You know?
Oh, wow.
And she even went to a senior nurse for advice,hoping for, I don't know, some wisdom, some
(01:52):
guidance.
Makes sense.
And what did she get?
Suck it up.
Oh.
I know.
Right?
It's like that suck it up attitude.
It's exactly what Janelle's pushing backagainst.
Like, that's the problem.
This whole normalizing of burnout and healthcare, it's dangerous.
You imagine being told that your suffering isjust part of the job description.
Right.
It's like, well, you signed up for this, sojust deal with it.
(02:12):
Exactly.
But here's where her story gets inspiring.
Janelle, she refused to just accept that.
She was like, there has gotta be a better way.
So she dives headfirst into research, readstons of books about resilience, even looks into
coaching programs.
Like, she's on a mission.
That's awesome.
I really like how she didn't just, you know,get stuck feeling like a victim.
(02:33):
She took charge of her own well-being, startedlooking for solutions.
That's where her entrepreneurial spirit kicksin, I think.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
She realized that those, like, generic selfcare tips, they weren't cutting it for nurses.
Take a bubble bath.
Go for a walk.
That doesn't touch the real issues, theemotional weight nurses carry.
So she took everything she learned, mixed itwith her own experiences, and created this
(02:56):
totally unique approach.
And that's how Nursing the Nurse was born.
That's a big point though.
Right?
Because she recognizes nurses need more thanjust a band aid solution.
They need strategies that last, something builtfor the realities of their job.
Her program, it's a direct answer to thosegeneric fixes we see all the time.
You got it.
And she started small, just sharing thesestrategies with coworkers and saw the
(03:20):
difference it made.
Like, she was planting these seeds ofresilience.
You know?
I love that.
You know, it's like that saying you can't healalone.
Having that support, even just one person whogets it, it can be huge in a high stress job.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And this is where things get reallyinteresting.
Janelle turns this passion into somethingbigger.
She writes a book, Nursing the Nurse, theultimate 6 step guide to beating nurse burnout.
(03:45):
And then she goes and develops a whole courseto go with it.
That's smart.
It's like she's creating this road map forother nurses.
Right?
Yeah.
Helping them avoid the traps she fell into,reclaim their well being before they hit that
breaking point.
Exactly.
And you know me, I love a good program name.
And this one, it delivers.
The course is called, get this, nursing thenurse, the ultimate walk through.
(04:07):
Oh, nice.
It's like she's saying, I've been through it.
I know the way out, and now I'm gonna walk youthrough it step by step.
Yeah.
And I think that's really smart because itspeaks to that feeling of being overwhelmed,
which a lot of nurses face.
They know they need help, but they don't evenknow where to begin.
So this walk through, it gives them astructured, manageable
approach.
For sure.
And she doesn't stop there.
She creates a membership program too.
(04:29):
Nursing the Nurse, the holistic huddle.
It's like this supercharged support system withongoing resources and a whole community of
nurses who are on the same page.
I bet that sense of community is so vital,especially in a job that can feel so isolating,
you know.
You're surrounded by people, but dealing withthis heavy stuff alone, this huddle, it creates
(04:50):
a space for shared experience, collectivehealing.
Totally.
And she even brings in experts from differentfields, a physiotherapist, a nutritionist, a
mindset coach to offer this well roundedsupport.
See, that's key.
Right?
It shows that burnout, it's not just a mentalhealth thing.
It affects you physically, emotionally, thewhole package.
Yes.
This holistic approach recognizing that it'scrucial for lasting well-being.
(05:14):
It really is.
But what stood out most to me, honestly, isJanelle's emphasis on being healthfully
selfish.
She's not afraid to say that nurses need toprioritize themselves, which in a profession
where self sacrifice is, like, built into theDNA, that's a pretty radical idea.
It makes you wonder, doesn't it, if thatingrained selflessness is part of what fuels
the burnout problem, almost like they'retrained to ignore their own needs while serving
(05:38):
others and the system just encourages that.
Yeah.
It's like a vicious cycle.
And Janelle, she's challenging that head on.
Which is brave because there can be so muchguilt wrapped up in putting yourself first,
especially when people's lives are literally inyour hands.
But she's making the case that to truly carefor others, you gotta care for yourself first.
You got it.
(05:58):
And she even talks about how for a lot ofnurses asking for help, it feels like admitting
weakness.
Yeah.
And that's so dangerous, especially in a fieldwith such high stakes.
Right.
That silence, the hesitation to reach out,that's what lets burnout fester and grow.
Both Janelle and Kyle, they're pushing for thisculture shift where vulnerability is seen as
strength.
(06:19):
We're asking for help becomes normal, not theexception.
Exactly.
Like, they're saying, look, we've all beenthere.
Hit that wall.
It's not a weakness.
It's just being human.
And by recognizing our human limitations, weactually become more effective, more
compassionate in providing health care.
For sure.
Now let's dig into some specific moments fromJanelle's interview that really bring these
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issues to light.
There's this one part really got to me.
Janelle's talking about her breaking pointright.
And it wasn't like one big awful event.
It was this gradual buildup of stress, like,almost like a cup slowly filling up until it
just spills over.
Yeah.
It's that everyday grind, isn't it?
Those long shifts, never enough staff carryingthe weight of people in crisis, then you go
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home, try to shut it all off, only to do it allagain the next day.
And it's not just the patients either.
It's the whole system.
Janelle talks about feeling totally unsupportedby management, like her well-being wasn't even
on their radar.
And that lack of support from the top downbreeds this culture where people are terrified
to speak up, to admit they're struggling.
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Which brings us right back to that suck it upmentality.
Right?
It's almost like the system's gaslighting them,saying their suffering is normal, expected,
even a sign of dedication.
It's so messed up because it stops people fromgetting help.
They start thinking this is just how it is.
There's no other way.
But Janelle's pushing back against that.
She's saying, no.
It doesn't have to be like this.
There are tools, strategies, support systems,things that can help.
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And her story proves it.
She went from feeling totally lost andoverwhelmed to building this incredible
resource for other nurses.
It wasn't just about finding solutions forherself, but sharing them, creating this ripple
effect of change in the whole profession.
And that's where her entrepreneurial sidereally shines.
Right?
Uh-huh.
She saw a need, built a solution, then made awhole platform to share it with the world.
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It's brilliant because it lets her reach waymore nurses than she ever could just working
within the system.
It's like she had to step outside the system toreally change it from within.
And by making a business around this, it'ssustainable.
She can keep making resources, offeringsupport, pushing for a more compassionate
system.
Okay.
Let's get into the specifics of her programbecause this is where it gets really good.
(08:33):
Mhmm.
The core of nursing the nurse is this 6 stepframework for beating burnout.
And I love this because it's not just aboutcoping mechanisms, it's about empowerment.
It's giving nurses the tools to take backcontrol.
That first step, self awareness, it's soimportant, forces you to stop, take stock of
where you're at.
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Janelle asks nurses to really look at theirwell-being, physical, mental, emotional, figure
out their specific stressors, recognize theearly warning signs of burnout.
But she's saying you can't fix what you don'tunderstand.
Exactly.
Without that self awareness, you're justreacting to the chaos, getting swept away.
Uh-huh.
But once you get yourself your triggers, yourlimits, you can start making conscious choices.
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Step 2 is all about stress managementtechniques.
That's where the practical tools come in.
Chanel teaches nurses specific ways to, like,regulate their emotions, calm their nervous
system when things get intense.
I think this is where her program really standsout from all those generic self care tips.
It's not just take a bubble bath.
It's about learning techniques.
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Things like mindfulness, breathing exercises,even time management skills, all designed for
the specific stressors they face.
And it's not just managing stress in themoment, it's about preventing it, which is
where step 3 comes in setting boundaries.
This is huge for nurses.
They're naturally caring people, but that canlead to them taking on way more than they can
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handle.
So Janelle, she guides them on setting healthyboundaries with coworkers, patients, even
family so they can protect their energy andprevent resentment from building up.
She talks about learning to say no, which I canimagine is so hard in a job where you're
constantly being asked to do more with less.
And it's not just saying no.
It's about knowing your limits, knowing whenyou need to step back, recharge, and then
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communicating those needs clearly.
So step 4 is about building that supportsystem.
And this isn't just friends and family.
It's about connecting with other nurses,finding those people who truly get what you're
going through.
Having that shared understanding, thatcamaraderie, it makes such a difference.
It's a safe space to vent, debrief, process allthose heavy emotions that come with the job.
(10:40):
Right.
You can't just bottle it all up.
It has to go somewhere.
And having that outlet, that group of peoplewho get it, that can be incredibly healing.
It's recognizing you're not in this alone.
Others have walked this path and found theirway through, and they can offer guidance,
support, a shoulder to cry on when you need it.
Then we get to step 5, which is all aboutfinding meaning and purpose in your work.
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This is where Janelle encourages nurses toreconnect with their why.
Like, remember what drew them to thisprofession in the first place.
Yeah.
It's so easy to get lost in the day to day,lose sight of the bigger picture.
This step reminds them of the good they'redoing, the lives they're touching, and helps
them tap back into that sense of purpose thatcan fuel their resilience.
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Like she's saying, hey, even when it's tough,remember why you're doing this.
Remember the good you're putting out there.
Because that sense of purpose, it can be sopowerful, especially when you're facing
challenges.
It gives you something to hold on to, somethingto fight for even when you feel like giving up.
And finally, we get to step 6, which is allabout self care.
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And this isn't just about bubble baths and facemasks.
It's about building a sustainable lifestylethat supports your well-being, physical,
mental, emotional, the whole picture.
This is another area where Janelle's programshines because she gives practical strategies
that are actually tailored for nurses.
We're talking about sleep, healthy eating,finding time for relaxation, hobbies, even if
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it's just for 15 minutes a day.
It's understanding that self care isn't aluxury.
It's a necessity.
And it doesn't have to be this big elaboratething.
It can be simple, like taking 5 minutes to justbreathe, stretch, disconnect from the chaos,
and reconnect with yourself.
Exactly.
And it's about making those small acts of selfcare nonnegotiable, like brushing your teeth or
showering.
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Because when you take care of yourself, you'reactually better able to care for others.
Now, all this is great in theory, but Janelledoesn't just leave nurses hanging with these 6
steps.
She built this whole ecosystem of support withher course, her membership program, even her
upcoming podcast.
It's like she's built a bridge between knowingand doing.
You can't just read about this stuff.
You gotta put it into practice.
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And her program gives you the structure, thesupport, the community to actually do it.
Let's talk about that membership programbecause I think this is where Nursing the Nurse
really comes alive.
It's called the holistic huddle, and it's waymore than just a support group.
It's like a gym membership for your mentalhealth, but specifically for nurses.
And that focus is what makes it so powerful.
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She gets the unique challenges they face, face,and she built a program that tackles those
challenges head on.
She brings in experts from all these differentfields to provide this truly holistic approach.
You've got physiotherapy, tackling the physicaltoll of the job, nutrition guidance, helping
them make healthy choices even with crazyschedules, and mindset coaching, giving them
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tools to manage those negative thoughts andbuild resilience.
That's so smart because it recognizes thatburnout isn't just in your head.
It affects you on every level, physical,emotional, even spiritual.
And by addressing all those aspects, Janelle'screated a path to well-being that actually
lasts.
It's not just about coping, it's aboutthriving.
And it's all accessible through an app sonurses can use these resources anytime,
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anywhere, Whether it's a quick meditationduring a break, a healthy recipe, or a pep talk
from the mindset coach, the support's rightthere in their pocket.
That accessibility is so crucial, especiallywith the crazy hours and unpredictable nature
of nursing.
But beyond the practical stuff and expertguidance, the holistic huddle offers something
even deeper, a sense of community.
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That feeling of belonging, of being understoodby people who truly get it, that's where the
magic happens.
Like, having this built in support system ofnurses who've walked in your shoes.
And they're not just sharing struggles.
They're celebrating successes, those smallwins, those moments of resilience.
It creates this positive cycle, this upwardspiral where each person's progress inspires
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and motivates the others.
And that collective energy, that commitment tothriving, it's contagious.
Janelle's creating a movement within nursing,one that challenges the status quo, breaks down
the stigma around mental health, and empowersnurses to put their well-being first.
And it's spreading.
She's launching her own podcast soon focused onmental health and well-being in health care.
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That's gonna be huge because podcasts can reachpeople right where they are, normalize these
conversations about topics that are oftenbrushed under the rug.
It's like she's taking this undergroundmovement, bringing it to the surface, creating
a space for nurses to share their stories,connect, and push for change.
And it's not just nurses either.
Her work has implications for anyone in healthcare, anyone in a high stress job, really.
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Because at the end of the day, we all need tobe healthfully selfish to some degree.
We all need to take care of ourselves to showup fully in our lives, our work, for the people
we care about.
Janelle's story reminds us that resilience is achoice.
Burnout isn't inevitable, and we all have thepower to create a more compassionate and
sustainable future, starting with ourselves.
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Yeah.
It's like we're taught that pushing ourselvesto the limit, that's what makes you a good
health care worker.
But Janelle's showing us now real strength isknowing your limits and having the guts to ask
for help.
And that help, it doesn't always have to be,you know, as a therapist or a fancy program.
Sometimes it's just those honest conversationswith colleagues, building a culture where it's
okay to say, hey.
I'm struggling.
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Right.
But that takes a real mindset shift.
Yeah.
Challenging those deep down beliefs about whatit means to be a good nurse, dedicated, all
that.
For sure.
It's moving away from that martyr thing,embracing a bigger picture of well-being.
Realizing our personal lives, our work lives,they're all connected.
You can't just, like, compartmentalize stress,emotions, exhaustion.
It spills over.
Janelle is a perfect example.
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She had to go through it herself, hit that wallbefore she realized something's gotta change.
And that change, it started with her choosingto take care of herself.
And that's such a powerful message.
It shows us we're not helpless burnout.
We have options.
We can make choices.
But it's not just about individual choices,though.
Right?
The system itself, health care, it needs tochange too.
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Absolutely.
We gotta ditch this culture of silence, thisidea that health care workers should just grin
and bear it, deal with the emotional toll, themental strain, all of it.
We need a culture where getting help is seen asa good thing, where taking care of yourself is
a priority, where health care workers feelsupported like they matter.
And that starts at the top with leadership.
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Creating workplaces where people feel safespeaking up, admitting their struggles, asking
for help without feeling judged.
It's about making well-being a core part ofquality care, not some extra thing, some
luxury.
Because, let's be real, a burnt out health careworker, they can't give compassionate,
effective care.
Their exhaustion, their emotional drain, itaffects everyone around them, colleagues,
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patients, everyone.
Janelle's work is putting the spotlight onthis.
In her program, nursing the nurse, it's givingpeople a way forward, empowering nurses to take
care of themselves so they can better take careof others.
And it goes beyond just nurses.
Her message, it speaks to all of us no matterwhat we do.
It's that reminder, we all need to behealthfully selfish sometimes.
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We gotta take care of ourselves to show upfully in our lives, our work for the people we
love.
It's a call to action to question thoseunspoken expectations, those rules that nobody
talks about, the ones that lead to burnout andkeep us from asking for help.
It reminds us resilience is a choice, andsometimes the bravest thing we can do is reach
out for support.
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So as you go through your day, as you deal withthe demands of work and life, I want you to
think about this.
What are those unspoken expectations in yourworld and how can you challenge them?
How can you create a better, more supportivespace for yourself and the people around you?
Remember, your well-being matters.
And when you take care of yourself, you're notjust helping yourself, you're helping build a
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more compassionate, more resilient world.
Alright.
That's it for today's review on the afterburn.
Thanks for joining us as we broke down anotherawesome episode of the Ignition Path podcast.
If you haven't listened to it yet, make sure tocheck it out.
Kyle always brings something new to the table,and we're here to make sure you don't miss a
beat.
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For sure.
And don't forget each week, we're here to giveyou the straight talk on these episodes,
pulling out what really matters for yourentrepreneurial journey.
See you next time and keep igniting your pathto success.
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