March 6, 2025 • 16 mins
To celebrate International Women’s Day we speak to three amazing women from around SA who have had a big impact on their communities and the state as a whole.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Jackielom with iHeart Essay, a brand new show
covering all the biggest issues and best stories from around
the regions. To celebrate International Women's Day tomorrow this week,
We've decided to share some of the best untold stories
from some remarkable women living in our regions. First up
is at Least Labors. She's the founder of Enliven Outdoor Adventures.
(00:25):
A reporter on The Spencer Golf Brooks Saychelle spoke to
her about how the business brings down the barriers women
experience in outdoor adventure.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Grow up in the Mid North, that's spent on my
long weekends and holidays at the beautiful York Peninsula, learnt
to serve that corny point, and I had the privilege
of being in the Southern Flinders and having weekends camping
with my family. So I really wanted to help more
women have those similar experiences to what I had the
privilege of growing up, because I know not everybody gets
(00:55):
that opportunity to go camping and surfing as kids, and
I really want to lower the barriers and create more
opportunities where more women can enjoy the outdoors as much
as I do.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I love that that's so good. I love the outdoors too,
so this is like, right up my alley. What got
you into outdoors in the first place.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I went on to study teaching, but just found that
teaching in the classroom indoor context just wasn't for me. Yeah,
so went on to career and outdoor tourism and outdoor education,
and just realized that in a lot of those contexts,
I was having to prove myself as a female guide,
not only to fellow staff or employers, but sometimes even
(01:32):
to the guests, to try and prove that I was
worthy of being there and had the skills and the
knowledge keep them safe in the outdoors. So I realized
that I wanted to create a space where it was
especially for women to step forward and take on that role,
to realize that they didn't need to wait for their
husbands or boyfriends or brothers to help them put the
surfboards on the roof or to help them picture tent,
(01:54):
that they could do these things themselves. They just needed
the time and the space and the instruction and care
to teach them how to do that for themselves.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That's so cool too. What's been the reaction so far
from girls that have taken part in some of your activities.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, I've done a few surf camps back at Bery
Bay where I learned to surf, and I've had women
of all body shapes, ages backgrounds have come and learned
to surf there now partnering with Nettune Surf Coaching, and
I've done stand up paddle board lessons at Adelaide and
now on the Flurio Peninsula too, as well as overnight
kayaking camps and bushwalking experiences. People warn me at the
(02:34):
start by having this audience of only women that I
was harving my market. You know, I'm not going to
make money because you're targeting only half them out of
people you could be. But I've really found that the
women that come have told me that they came because
it was all women. You know, they didn't feel comfortable
to book a kayak trip on their own, but because
they knew it was all women and beginner friendly, they
(02:54):
felt safe to do so. And it really creates that
space where they can feel so to step out of
their comfort zone and know that they'll be supported with
female instructors to help them and guide them and not
judge them. And then once the walls come down and
they feel safe. Of course, the conversation flows and the
women are connecting on all things, whether it's like related
(03:16):
to child raising relationships or men at pause for older women,
like all sorts and everything in between. And it's just
really nice that it's created that social experience for mental
wellbeing and social wellbeing as well, not just the physical aspects.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Do you have any advice for any other girls that
are thinking of getting into the outdoor industry.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I just want to say, you don't have to look
a certain way, you don't have to dress a certain way,
you don't have to have the right gear. We're literally
animals were born to be outdoors all the time. And
I know that our conditioning and our upbringing can make
the outdoors seem scary or dirty or confronting, or like
you have to be a certain type of person to
get outdoors, but you really don't, you know, we all
(03:57):
in our lineage have come from there. And I really
think that just by setting yourself small little achievable goals,
like maybe it is that you're going to research a
new national park this weekend, or that it is that
you'll invite a friend for a walk somewhere you've never
been before, and just take those little steps and don't
think that you have to be looking any particular way
or from any cultural background. The outdoors is for you,
(04:19):
no matter who you are.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Thanks for that, Brooke and Elise. Over to the murray
Lands and local woman Gabby Mackenzie has been on a
mission for many years to help those living with disability
and mental health concerns to have access to the supports
and resources they need. She faced her fears of the
unknown six years ago by founding and leading an agency
called Genuine Support Services Australia, following on from which she's
(04:42):
recently been recognized as a woman to Watch by Say
Woman Australia. Our journalist in Murraybridge, Jenny Lenman sat down
with Gabby to find out more.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I just couldn't get enough of this information and this
amazing platform that was now available for people living with
disability to really their best life with all this choice
in control was just amazing. A girlfriend at the time
said to me she remembered a moment that we had
in a previous workplace. She said, I remember us standing
out the front of work ten years ago. You looked
(05:12):
at me, and you looked at the building and you said,
I'm going to do this one day, and she said,
and here you are, And that drove me even more.
It just felt like my purpose, especially with my childhood
and always being around people living with disability and not
seeing it as anything unnatural. It was very normal. And
we're all just beautifully and colorfully messy and unique and
(05:34):
awesome and all things wrapped in one.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I imagine you would have also observed things that would
have made their lives a lot easier, right that now
there's a lot more access to through avenues like genuine
support services.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, for sure. And it's owning what they want to
do with their lives and actually being able to put
in place the steps and processes with the support that
they need to make these incredible things happen now.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Gabby, you're a very humble person, You're very compassionate. Sometimes
it's not easy for someone with those characteristics to become
a leader. How has that journey been for you and
being in charge of people and finding confidence in yourself.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, so I'm forty years old now and still reaching maturity.
It was nothing like what I had envisioned. I had
been in leadership roles in the past, obviously not to
this scale. Education, education, education, I can't stress that enough.
You have to equip yourself with the knowledge and the
training and the skills to get to where you want
to be. Nothing is impossible, Like you really put your
(06:40):
mind to something, you want to learn something you can.
But the work that was required of myself from an
inner dialogue perspective to get to that effective leadership, which
is a constant work in progress, was one of the
most difficult things to face. You can't show up for
(07:00):
others if you're not showing up for yourself, and a
part of that is trying to heal some of those
belief systems. You actually do need to lead by example,
and that shows how you treat yourself, how you talk
about yourself, how you show up for yourself, and what
lessons you're willing to accept and learn and grow, you know,
(07:21):
owning your behaviors, owning your outlook on life. And people
see that and they also learn from the ways that
you show up for yourself.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Life is just this ongoing lesson, isn't it. You're always learning,
You're always developing, building competence before you can build confidence.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That's what I like to teach my staff is out
of every situation, what could we learn out of this?
You know, it's not about right or wrong? Who's in
the right, who did this? Yeah, that's kind of culture
we take along from previous workplaces. Often it's something wrong,
but it's not always the case. It's that opportunity to
learn and grow and what can we learn out of
this specific situation.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
When you go into something new and you think you
don't deserve to be there, but that's how you learn.
That's how you grow. Trying new things, putting yourself in
a position where you really know nothing or you feel
that you know nothing. That's something that we have to
grapple with, isn't it, Gabby?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Absolutely. That imposter syndrome, I think is something that I've
probably to quite a severe level, have experienced my whole life,
and so in starting business, I had to face that
imposter syndrome at a pretty fast and severe rate, and
it broke me several times over. I can't say that
it doesn't resurface itself regularly. But when I talk about
(08:37):
showing up for yourself when you're in a dialogue and
understanding the words that are true to who you are
and what your purposes and what your thought process are
about yourself. You have to keep working on that. Otherwise
that imposter syndrome will tell you to give up. It'll
tell you that you're not good enough, you're not smart enough,
you're not articulate enough. You can't do this. But you
can continue to work on it and surround yourself with women,
(09:00):
because we're talking about International Women's Day here. Surround yourself
with women that lift you up. That support that we
offer in the words that we say, can make a
huge difference to someone's week or even the year. You
really don't know the impact that you're having on somebody.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Thanks for that, Jenny and Gabby. We'll have more coming
up after the break. I heart essayed, I Heart essayed,
Welcome back. We just spoke with two very impressive South
Aussie women as we gear up for International Women's Day meantime.
Liz Haberman is a well known member of the Woodner
(09:38):
community on the Air Peninsula. She previously ran the Woodner Bakery,
campaigned for the seat of Flinders and Gray and became
a key figure in the Voluntary Assisted Dying Act twenty
twenty one, meaning terminally ill patients and their families will
never again experience the unnecessary hurt her family did when
they lost their son back in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
I know this is a bit of a hard topic
and your family has gone through unbelievable grief with everything
that happened with your son, But would you be able
to share a little bit about how that all happened.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
When my son was diagnosed with cancer back in twenty fifteen,
he was terminal from the get go, and so he
you know, he was seventeen at the time, almost eighteen,
and you know, when a young lady is faced with
all dying basically, there's so much that happens mentally, let
(10:30):
alone physically, but the mental drain that comes with it all,
and then being his career throughout the whole process, which
was an absolute privilege on my favorite. He was quite
I guess because his body was failing him. He had
a lot of time to research and to understand, well,
I don't know a lot of things about facing him
one mortality, I guess, and one of the big things
(10:52):
for him was that he wasn't allowed to choose how
he died. He didn't get to choose that he had cancer,
didn't get to choose what it did to his body
and felt that it was wrong that he was going
to have to suffer, and he certainly didn't want to
put his siblings, my husband, and myself through that watching
him slightly die in a hospital bed, which was his words.
So he was very aware of how his death was
(11:14):
going to look like, and he was more concerned for, yeah,
his loved ones than what he was going to go through.
So he started looking into it more and yeah, voluntary
sister dying was a huge part of it. Taught me
so much about it. Gries died in quite horrific circumstances,
and I just felt so strongly that we couldn't allow
(11:36):
other families to go through that sort of thing. And
I sort of going myself a bit of time to grieve,
I guess. But when I started looking into vad and
where that was at with Parliament, and I thought, you know,
maybe if I share Reese's story, it might, you know,
just sort of sway or just at least sort of
(11:56):
give people some more information on the other side of it.
Like it just evolved from there and I got more
and more involved, and I met some incredible people that
have been advocating for this for so many years. And
I guess the timing was right, and I was very
fortunate that Reese was willing to show me that this
is what compassion looks like when it all went through.
(12:18):
The emotion in that gallery in Parliament that day was
I've never experienced anything like it. So, even though I'd
have Reef back in a heartbeat, knowing that his name
gets spoken every now and then and that's his sort
of his story has had a bit of a yeah,
bit of a mark on history in the state is
extremely special and one of those silver linings.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
As you say, you'd have Reese back in a heartbeat,
but it's just nice to know that something for someone
else has come from all of this devastation. The follow
on from how it all ended for Reese and you
guys having to deal with the legality of it all
or the illegality of it all at the time, that
must have been just an absolutely mind boggling experience having
(13:02):
to kind of defend yourself through all of that.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Certainly, I'm nothing against the police. They were incredible. They
had a job to do and they did it really well,
and they were thoughtful about it all. The whole process
was and even for them, like I just felt it
was so unnecessary and the fact that we knew that
we were generally going to be okay because like we're
(13:25):
videoing it and that sort of thing, and Reese was
sort of knowing that, you know, he's remembered the crime
scene for a lot, you know, for a while, and
you know, we didn't have access to his body for
so long because having more tops in that sort of thing,
and you know, he has so few things, but even
they were taken away, like his laptop and sewn and
we only got them back eighteen months later. Once for
(13:47):
the decision to come through, even though we knew we
were pretty safe. You just don't need that you're greeting
a lot of your kid and having to have that
on top of height. It's just like so that sort
of you know, those all of those things together, it's
quite something has to be changed to this is this
is not only yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
So you use that obviously, that determination that drive in
the years following Reese's passing to yeah, bring around the
Voluntary Assisted Dying Act so twenty twenty one, and then
running for Flinders in twenty twenty two, so people knew
what you stood for by this time, you know they
were really behind you and what you had done for
the state as a whole, not just a suit of flinders.
(14:26):
But yeah, twenty four percent swing away from the Liberals,
you only lost by a thousand votes. That was a
mammoth effort in a very what is normally a very
safe liberal seat. So congratulations first off, But yeah, how
did that all go down? Your campaigning and all of that.
Obviously this was something that was the forefront of your campaign.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah, it was kind of came about. I got
asked if I would consider running, and it was one
of those things that I didn't have anyone that I
could vote for, and so maybe maybe I can make
a differity and I just ran with it, especially on
the EP weren't being heard and it just kind of
evolved and to get that close time couldn't believe it. Really,
(15:07):
if I'm giving myself a bit more time, perhaps it
might have been a better result. But hearing what people
are dealing with on a daily basis, it almost sort
of breaks your heart and you think you can't. I
had to sort of keep reminding myself so I can't
help everyone. And that was a fair bit of pressure
that I had been putting on myself thinking that I
had to be an advocate for every issue that's out there.
(15:29):
And yeah, it was say a step, learning curve, loved
meeting the people and that's what you do it for.
You do it for them.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Yeah, and you've been recognized for it with the Middle
of the Order of Australia as well, So congratulations on that.
Just a massive advocate and just a standout lady in
the Peninsula.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Thank you so much, Jackie. That's nice of you to
say that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
To Elise, Gabby and Liuz plus all the wonderful and
powerful women out there. We see you and we thank
you this International Women's Day. That's it for this week.
Don't forget you can hear in the iHeart app or
wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jackie Limb. Join us
again next week more of the stories you want to hear.
I Heart Essay the Voice of South Australia.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
iHeart Essayed
Hi, I'm Jackielom with iHeart Essay, a brand new show
covering all the biggest issues and best stories from around
the regions. To celebrate International Women's Day tomorrow this week,
We've decided to share some of the best untold stories
from some remarkable women living in our regions. First up
is at Least Labors. She's the founder of Enliven Outdoor Adventures.
(00:25):
A reporter on The Spencer Golf Brooks Saychelle spoke to
her about how the business brings down the barriers women
experience in outdoor adventure.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Grow up in the Mid North, that's spent on my
long weekends and holidays at the beautiful York Peninsula, learnt
to serve that corny point, and I had the privilege
of being in the Southern Flinders and having weekends camping
with my family. So I really wanted to help more
women have those similar experiences to what I had the
privilege of growing up, because I know not everybody gets
(00:55):
that opportunity to go camping and surfing as kids, and
I really want to lower the barriers and create more
opportunities where more women can enjoy the outdoors as much
as I do.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I love that that's so good. I love the outdoors too,
so this is like, right up my alley. What got
you into outdoors in the first place.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I went on to study teaching, but just found that
teaching in the classroom indoor context just wasn't for me. Yeah,
so went on to career and outdoor tourism and outdoor education,
and just realized that in a lot of those contexts,
I was having to prove myself as a female guide,
not only to fellow staff or employers, but sometimes even
(01:32):
to the guests, to try and prove that I was
worthy of being there and had the skills and the
knowledge keep them safe in the outdoors. So I realized
that I wanted to create a space where it was
especially for women to step forward and take on that role,
to realize that they didn't need to wait for their
husbands or boyfriends or brothers to help them put the
surfboards on the roof or to help them picture tent,
(01:54):
that they could do these things themselves. They just needed
the time and the space and the instruction and care
to teach them how to do that for themselves.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That's so cool too. What's been the reaction so far
from girls that have taken part in some of your activities.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, I've done a few surf camps back at Bery
Bay where I learned to surf, and I've had women
of all body shapes, ages backgrounds have come and learned
to surf there now partnering with Nettune Surf Coaching, and
I've done stand up paddle board lessons at Adelaide and
now on the Flurio Peninsula too, as well as overnight
kayaking camps and bushwalking experiences. People warn me at the
(02:34):
start by having this audience of only women that I
was harving my market. You know, I'm not going to
make money because you're targeting only half them out of
people you could be. But I've really found that the
women that come have told me that they came because
it was all women. You know, they didn't feel comfortable
to book a kayak trip on their own, but because
they knew it was all women and beginner friendly, they
(02:54):
felt safe to do so. And it really creates that
space where they can feel so to step out of
their comfort zone and know that they'll be supported with
female instructors to help them and guide them and not
judge them. And then once the walls come down and
they feel safe. Of course, the conversation flows and the
women are connecting on all things, whether it's like related
(03:16):
to child raising relationships or men at pause for older women,
like all sorts and everything in between. And it's just
really nice that it's created that social experience for mental
wellbeing and social wellbeing as well, not just the physical aspects.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Do you have any advice for any other girls that
are thinking of getting into the outdoor industry.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I just want to say, you don't have to look
a certain way, you don't have to dress a certain way,
you don't have to have the right gear. We're literally
animals were born to be outdoors all the time. And
I know that our conditioning and our upbringing can make
the outdoors seem scary or dirty or confronting, or like
you have to be a certain type of person to
get outdoors, but you really don't, you know, we all
(03:57):
in our lineage have come from there. And I really
think that just by setting yourself small little achievable goals,
like maybe it is that you're going to research a
new national park this weekend, or that it is that
you'll invite a friend for a walk somewhere you've never
been before, and just take those little steps and don't
think that you have to be looking any particular way
or from any cultural background. The outdoors is for you,
(04:19):
no matter who you are.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Thanks for that, Brooke and Elise. Over to the murray
Lands and local woman Gabby Mackenzie has been on a
mission for many years to help those living with disability
and mental health concerns to have access to the supports
and resources they need. She faced her fears of the
unknown six years ago by founding and leading an agency
called Genuine Support Services Australia, following on from which she's
(04:42):
recently been recognized as a woman to Watch by Say
Woman Australia. Our journalist in Murraybridge, Jenny Lenman sat down
with Gabby to find out more.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I just couldn't get enough of this information and this
amazing platform that was now available for people living with
disability to really their best life with all this choice
in control was just amazing. A girlfriend at the time
said to me she remembered a moment that we had
in a previous workplace. She said, I remember us standing
out the front of work ten years ago. You looked
(05:12):
at me, and you looked at the building and you said,
I'm going to do this one day, and she said,
and here you are, And that drove me even more.
It just felt like my purpose, especially with my childhood
and always being around people living with disability and not
seeing it as anything unnatural. It was very normal. And
we're all just beautifully and colorfully messy and unique and
(05:34):
awesome and all things wrapped in one.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I imagine you would have also observed things that would
have made their lives a lot easier, right that now
there's a lot more access to through avenues like genuine
support services.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, for sure. And it's owning what they want to
do with their lives and actually being able to put
in place the steps and processes with the support that
they need to make these incredible things happen now.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Gabby, you're a very humble person, You're very compassionate. Sometimes
it's not easy for someone with those characteristics to become
a leader. How has that journey been for you and
being in charge of people and finding confidence in yourself.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, so I'm forty years old now and still reaching maturity.
It was nothing like what I had envisioned. I had
been in leadership roles in the past, obviously not to
this scale. Education, education, education, I can't stress that enough.
You have to equip yourself with the knowledge and the
training and the skills to get to where you want
to be. Nothing is impossible, Like you really put your
(06:40):
mind to something, you want to learn something you can.
But the work that was required of myself from an
inner dialogue perspective to get to that effective leadership, which
is a constant work in progress, was one of the
most difficult things to face. You can't show up for
(07:00):
others if you're not showing up for yourself, and a
part of that is trying to heal some of those
belief systems. You actually do need to lead by example,
and that shows how you treat yourself, how you talk
about yourself, how you show up for yourself, and what
lessons you're willing to accept and learn and grow, you know,
(07:21):
owning your behaviors, owning your outlook on life. And people
see that and they also learn from the ways that
you show up for yourself.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Life is just this ongoing lesson, isn't it. You're always learning,
You're always developing, building competence before you can build confidence.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That's what I like to teach my staff is out
of every situation, what could we learn out of this?
You know, it's not about right or wrong? Who's in
the right, who did this? Yeah, that's kind of culture
we take along from previous workplaces. Often it's something wrong,
but it's not always the case. It's that opportunity to
learn and grow and what can we learn out of
this specific situation.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
When you go into something new and you think you
don't deserve to be there, but that's how you learn.
That's how you grow. Trying new things, putting yourself in
a position where you really know nothing or you feel
that you know nothing. That's something that we have to
grapple with, isn't it, Gabby?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Absolutely. That imposter syndrome, I think is something that I've
probably to quite a severe level, have experienced my whole life,
and so in starting business, I had to face that
imposter syndrome at a pretty fast and severe rate, and
it broke me several times over. I can't say that
it doesn't resurface itself regularly. But when I talk about
(08:37):
showing up for yourself when you're in a dialogue and
understanding the words that are true to who you are
and what your purposes and what your thought process are
about yourself. You have to keep working on that. Otherwise
that imposter syndrome will tell you to give up. It'll
tell you that you're not good enough, you're not smart enough,
you're not articulate enough. You can't do this. But you
can continue to work on it and surround yourself with women,
(09:00):
because we're talking about International Women's Day here. Surround yourself
with women that lift you up. That support that we
offer in the words that we say, can make a
huge difference to someone's week or even the year. You
really don't know the impact that you're having on somebody.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Thanks for that, Jenny and Gabby. We'll have more coming
up after the break. I heart essayed, I Heart essayed,
Welcome back. We just spoke with two very impressive South
Aussie women as we gear up for International Women's Day meantime.
Liz Haberman is a well known member of the Woodner
(09:38):
community on the Air Peninsula. She previously ran the Woodner Bakery,
campaigned for the seat of Flinders and Gray and became
a key figure in the Voluntary Assisted Dying Act twenty
twenty one, meaning terminally ill patients and their families will
never again experience the unnecessary hurt her family did when
they lost their son back in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
I know this is a bit of a hard topic
and your family has gone through unbelievable grief with everything
that happened with your son, But would you be able
to share a little bit about how that all happened.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
When my son was diagnosed with cancer back in twenty fifteen,
he was terminal from the get go, and so he
you know, he was seventeen at the time, almost eighteen,
and you know, when a young lady is faced with
all dying basically, there's so much that happens mentally, let
(10:30):
alone physically, but the mental drain that comes with it all,
and then being his career throughout the whole process, which
was an absolute privilege on my favorite. He was quite
I guess because his body was failing him. He had
a lot of time to research and to understand, well,
I don't know a lot of things about facing him
one mortality, I guess, and one of the big things
(10:52):
for him was that he wasn't allowed to choose how
he died. He didn't get to choose that he had cancer,
didn't get to choose what it did to his body
and felt that it was wrong that he was going
to have to suffer, and he certainly didn't want to
put his siblings, my husband, and myself through that watching
him slightly die in a hospital bed, which was his words.
So he was very aware of how his death was
(11:14):
going to look like, and he was more concerned for, yeah,
his loved ones than what he was going to go through.
So he started looking into it more and yeah, voluntary
sister dying was a huge part of it. Taught me
so much about it. Gries died in quite horrific circumstances,
and I just felt so strongly that we couldn't allow
(11:36):
other families to go through that sort of thing. And
I sort of going myself a bit of time to grieve,
I guess. But when I started looking into vad and
where that was at with Parliament, and I thought, you know,
maybe if I share Reese's story, it might, you know,
just sort of sway or just at least sort of
(11:56):
give people some more information on the other side of it.
Like it just evolved from there and I got more
and more involved, and I met some incredible people that
have been advocating for this for so many years. And
I guess the timing was right, and I was very
fortunate that Reese was willing to show me that this
is what compassion looks like when it all went through.
(12:18):
The emotion in that gallery in Parliament that day was
I've never experienced anything like it. So, even though I'd
have Reef back in a heartbeat, knowing that his name
gets spoken every now and then and that's his sort
of his story has had a bit of a yeah,
bit of a mark on history in the state is
extremely special and one of those silver linings.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
As you say, you'd have Reese back in a heartbeat,
but it's just nice to know that something for someone
else has come from all of this devastation. The follow
on from how it all ended for Reese and you
guys having to deal with the legality of it all
or the illegality of it all at the time, that
must have been just an absolutely mind boggling experience having
(13:02):
to kind of defend yourself through all of that.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Certainly, I'm nothing against the police. They were incredible. They
had a job to do and they did it really well,
and they were thoughtful about it all. The whole process
was and even for them, like I just felt it
was so unnecessary and the fact that we knew that
we were generally going to be okay because like we're
(13:25):
videoing it and that sort of thing, and Reese was
sort of knowing that, you know, he's remembered the crime
scene for a lot, you know, for a while, and
you know, we didn't have access to his body for
so long because having more tops in that sort of thing,
and you know, he has so few things, but even
they were taken away, like his laptop and sewn and
we only got them back eighteen months later. Once for
(13:47):
the decision to come through, even though we knew we
were pretty safe. You just don't need that you're greeting
a lot of your kid and having to have that
on top of height. It's just like so that sort
of you know, those all of those things together, it's
quite something has to be changed to this is this
is not only yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
So you use that obviously, that determination that drive in
the years following Reese's passing to yeah, bring around the
Voluntary Assisted Dying Act so twenty twenty one, and then
running for Flinders in twenty twenty two, so people knew
what you stood for by this time, you know they
were really behind you and what you had done for
the state as a whole, not just a suit of flinders.
(14:26):
But yeah, twenty four percent swing away from the Liberals,
you only lost by a thousand votes. That was a
mammoth effort in a very what is normally a very
safe liberal seat. So congratulations first off, But yeah, how
did that all go down? Your campaigning and all of that.
Obviously this was something that was the forefront of your campaign.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah, it was kind of came about. I got
asked if I would consider running, and it was one
of those things that I didn't have anyone that I
could vote for, and so maybe maybe I can make
a differity and I just ran with it, especially on
the EP weren't being heard and it just kind of
evolved and to get that close time couldn't believe it. Really,
(15:07):
if I'm giving myself a bit more time, perhaps it
might have been a better result. But hearing what people
are dealing with on a daily basis, it almost sort
of breaks your heart and you think you can't. I
had to sort of keep reminding myself so I can't
help everyone. And that was a fair bit of pressure
that I had been putting on myself thinking that I
had to be an advocate for every issue that's out there.
(15:29):
And yeah, it was say a step, learning curve, loved
meeting the people and that's what you do it for.
You do it for them.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Yeah, and you've been recognized for it with the Middle
of the Order of Australia as well, So congratulations on that.
Just a massive advocate and just a standout lady in
the Peninsula.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Thank you so much, Jackie. That's nice of you to
say that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
To Elise, Gabby and Liuz plus all the wonderful and
powerful women out there. We see you and we thank
you this International Women's Day. That's it for this week.
Don't forget you can hear in the iHeart app or
wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jackie Limb. Join us
again next week more of the stories you want to hear.
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